Are you excited for the PS4's first good exclusive anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TghrUHffZ0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-f0PyD4PYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJEa6TnA824
>>318042283
I hope it doesn't have any slowdowns like Nexus.
Extremely excited. When does the movie come out?
>Ratchet and Clank: the casualized remake
Nope
>>318043494
Literally what the fuck? Ratchet is and always has been a casual children's game, and it's fun as fuck
>>318042283
>Are you excited for the PS4's first good exclusive anon?
Nah I'm not a fan of Souls games.
>>318042283
Was that supposed to impress me? Looks worse than Tools of Destruction.
>>318043356
>Naughtey Dog makes pretend movies
>Insomniac is getting a real movie
:3
I just hope there will be difficulty levels or something.
The last several games were too easy.
Also - where's the platforming?
>Implying InFamous, Bloodborne, Disgaea 5, and Until Dawn weren't good
That said I'm hype as fuck for the new R&C, its literally my favourite vidya series.
>>318042283
Wait, there's a new R&C? Holy shit this is news to me. Time to get a PS Quadruple
>>318042283
I want to see what the Gemlik Moon Base stage looks like. That one was badass.
>>318044150
Future games had difficulty settings.
>Also - where's the platforming?
Platforming has always been a minor thing in R&C desu.
>>318044150
Difficulty levels are confirmed, they've said that slowdown on grind rails and button prompts only happen on easy
>>318047696
Great! Starting on Hard!
>>318047696
>believing developers
welcome to vidya
>>318048180
Do you honestly think they'd lie about difficulty levels being a feature?
>>318044150
>Also - where's the platforming?
The platforming in R&C games was always shit tier.
>>318048392
explain
>>318048584
The level design was always linear as shit save for wide open spaces like the desert or snowfield in R&C2, and they mostly just involve "hop up these three steps and over this small crevice" and nothing more. R&C was always emphasized explosive action over platforming.
>>318049565
But there was still specific platforming sections like the rising water bit in RC1, the platforming arena missions in UYA and DL, the moons in CIT, and basically all of the first half of QFB. Of course there's the couple steps to transition to the next fight in combat sections, but that's not what people are referring to when they talk about platforming in ratchet
Platforming isn't usually nonlinear, I'm not sure what your point there is. RC's always had a mix of both platforming/'puzzle' and combat, the balance between both varies from game to game
>>318050123
Compared to stuff like the Jak games it is unimpressive.
>>318052228
Frankly, even Jak had pretty poor platforming.
Neither of the series are actually that much of platformers compared to their predecessors, Spyro and Crash.
>>318052948
Spyro wasn't very impressive either. It focused more on atmosphere and charm, which in my honest opinion was starting to run dry by the third game. Also enemies constantly came in two variants: minions as small as Spyro himself which carried flameproof armor, meaning they could only be rammed, and big hulking brutes which were too big to ram so you had to flame them.
>>318042283
>no ps4
>looks impressive for 30fps
>a classic actually surviving in this day and age
>old music is kill
>reusing future weapons as main arsenal
>writing
I'm conflicted
I loved this series because of weapons. Some serious, some OP, others just creatively wacky. I want good, thought out versions of all I said.
And harder missions.
>>318042283
It's enough to make me settle on getting a PS4, so yes. Yes I am.
Favourite game series of all time & I can't wait, even if it's a game that's in no need of a reboot & the OST is already confirmed to be significantly worse than the original's
>>318054259
They were forced by sony to put preorder conntent in so you will only be able to get the bouncer if you preorder
Insomniac have a history of never offering preorder content as later DLC
>>318054820
With any luck it may be like the Insomniac Museum in ACiT and the morphing weapons in All 4 One: Pre-Order unlocks them sooner but you can still unlock it by yourself.
>>318049565
But that is platforming. Platformers are about jumping around on PLATFORMS, not exploring.
>>318042283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0hjRENVoYI
0:24 is my answer
>>318054259
The new music isn't too bad. And they probably have remade a few of the classic themes. The story looks to be pretty interesting, since they have Nefarious while he was still a squishie.
>>318042283
>those videos
Too much dialogue. They ruined the immersion.
>>318056624
What immersion? The originals were the same, just simpler.
>>318042283
The demo was pretty fun. They actually made the Snagglebeast fun instead of "wait for the slow fucker to slowly walk onto the trap"
>>318056174
It's not hard to do both.
>>318056676
When you have some NPC talking to you about WHAT IS HAPPENING AS YOU PLAY, that ruins everything.
>oh, I see you have that blaster weapon
>try using it on those enemies OVER THERE
>I see you are pretty handy with that iron Lombax
>escort me to that boat, that you can see to your right, IF YOU MOVE THE CAMERA WITH THE RIGHT ANALOG STICK
>I see the Blarg are here too, attack them WITH THAT BLASTER WEAPON BY HOLDING THE CIRCLE BUTTON
>you almost made it, now there is that dude you wanted to see. I bet he has the item you need
>well, we're all done here! Feel free to look for GOLD BOLTS, I hear there is one ON TOP PF THE WATERFALL
>don't know how to hack into a PS2 disk to extract the music
>>318058580
It'd probably be stored in some obtuse format only the PS2 can read.
Should I go poking around in case it isn't? I have both PS2 and PS3 game files.
>>318058680
The thing is, it is ALREADY KNOWN what format PS2 audio is in, and SOME PEOPLE KNOW how to convert that to WAV or whatnot.
People figured out how to do that.
They just don't want to share their knowledge.
>>318056412
>music isn't too bad
It's not bad, just not remember able . I miss the fast pace techno of the first 3 and deadlocked, and it honestly wouldn't be the same with this one.
>>318059147
I just looked in my PS3 game directory and I see a bunch of .xvag files. Some googling suggests I can convert them. Do you want me to get on that for you?
>a classic playstation franchise that has remained consistently good since its inception
That's something you don't see every day.
>>318059510
There have been bumps in the road.
>>318059380
No.
I want someone to tell me how to do that myself, on any platform (operating system). Don't want to be confined to Windows.
>>318059542
Still not complete and utter garbage though, at least
>>318060053
Well, want me to send you the xvags to save you the trouble of pirating them?
>>318042283
Its awful, its actually making me think about getting a PS4. Bloodborne isn't anything special but ratchet and clank is my fuckin jam. Its not some try hard grimdark game for teens.
>>318059510
Definately, thats why their smash game sucked dick. The average joe didn't know most of those characters because sony usually don't take care of their franchises after the third game and it all goes to shit.
>>318060216
xvags play natively in VLC at least, by the way
I fucking love the ratchet and clank games. Into the nexus wasnt AS good as the previous entries, but it did prove that they can still make them good.
In other words moderate hype
>>318060085
Agree. Even the likes of All 4 One, Full Frontal Assault and Nexus (On people's opinion; I actually found that one pretty solid if just short.) had something good and fun in them and none are broken or filled with graphical or design flaws to the level of other mascot franchises.
>>318060216
If you want to.
I have the disks myself, so I could technically extract those files when I have a BD player.
>>318061223
PS3 discs are bound to be encrypted, I don't know if it's that easy.
>>318061428
I will find a way. I know people have ripped PS3 music before.
>>318061497
I'm only looking at the game contents because my PS3 has CFW. I don't even have another blu ray drive.
>same fucking future series weapons
>butchered story with dreamworks faced characters
>characters that literally don't shut up during gameplay
can't wait to play! (sarcastic tone)
>>318044150
starting with crack in time they've had difficulty levels.
The 2nd hardest and unlockable hardest difficulties have been a decent challange
>>318061797
>same fucking future series weapons
this holy fuck, It's the one thing I'm actually upset about
If they're going to continue rehashing weapons they could at least re-hash the first game's weapons
Every weapon in the first game was great and unique but we're getting fucking zurkon for the 8th time
>>318061797
I hate the rehashing too. They're even taking the flamethrower from A4O and calling it the Pyrociter.
>>318062474
are you fucking serious?
fuck that. insomniac isn't getting a sale from me this time.
>No more asshole Ratchet
Pass. The future games onwards forgot what made him funny
>>318061797
>(sarcastic tone)
Anon come on I'm agreeing with you as well on weapons.
>>318061934
Least two and 3 had previous games weapons be bonus ones. Zurkon could be fine if he was like slim cognito/gagetron ruins bot where it's just a secrets vendor and uses previous saves for discounts and arent the main bulk of weapons.
Well 3 reused some of the first game, but justifiable since it was a return, and they were changed with the new system.
>>318062474
you mean the flamethrower they reused from tod
this fucking game is such a letdown.
i was hoping for the original game redone with hd assets and visuals, not a dreamworks movie game.
>>318062890
the flamethrower from tod looked much more realistic than this shit. i haven't play a4o so i'm inclined to believe him.
>>318042283
Literally the only reason I've considered getting a PS4 is the hopes of HD remakes of the original 3 R&C.
Then I can pick up the other shit for fun.
>>318062794
They did reuse some weapons in 2 and 3, but they didn't have half the fucking arsenal be reused from previous games
>>318042283
No, it's the only CONSOLE exclusive that I care about. But I'm not going to get a console for that. I can still emulate R&C1 and R&C3 albeit shittilly because for some reason R&C emulates like shit.
>>318063051
They're doing it with atleast two other weapons too. There was an image showing them but I can't find it.
>>318042932
Wasn't Into the Nexus on PS3?
>>318063183
It's because the game uses custom mipmaps
GSDX shits itself on custom mipmaps.
>>318063183
>some reason
They had to hack the PS2 just to get the games to work. They even watched how the disc reading worked, and put different parts of the game on different parts of the disc so it'd read faster.
>>318043494
>I have never played or even seen Ratchet and Clank before, so I'll just call it casualized because it's a remake
I am so stoked for the new Ratchet and Clank. I remember getting Tools of Destruction for christmas along with the PS3. Played that game, with the simpsons game, for months because I couldnt be arsed buying other games. This and Digimon is the reason why I bought a PS4
>>318063281
yes, they used the shitty a4o engine that looks awful and runs like shit
>>318063387
Not even that guy. But have you even played 1, any recent game or watched gameplay? All they've been doing is making it easier.
>>318063387
but he's right. this remake looks super fucking casualized.
>>318062961
Well anon they announced from the start it's a movie tie in. Looking at the movie it ain't hard to see where it was going.
I just hope it doesn't play shit
>>318042283
Bomb Glove
Pyrocitor
Blaster
Glove of Doom
Mine Glove
Suck Cannon
Taunter
R.Y.N.O.
Devastator
Walloper
Visibomb Gun
Decoy Glove
Drone Device
Tesla Claw
Morph-O-Ray
>Compare
Bouncer
Combustor
Drone Device
Plasma Striker
Fusion Grenade
Glove of Doom
Groovitron
Mine Glove
Mr. Zurkon
Pixelizer
Predator Launcher
Pyrocitor
Suck Cannon
Visibomb Gun
Visi-Copter
Walloper
Warmonger
>>318063502
>looks super fucking casualized
>more weapons, slightly more content, HD = casualized
The game was already casual as fuck and fun.
The only parts one could call hard were the last level if you're like, 9, and the final boss your first time through.
>>318042283
>30 FPS
I'll still buy it, but that bums me out
>>318064070
I'm happy as long as it's stable and not Nexus.
>>318063756
>le ebin zurkon
>le disco ball glove
>rehashed future weapons
>gameplay commentary babies you through the game
yea so hardcore. brb slitting mom's throat and stealing her credit card so i can buy dis geam XD
>>318064664
>so hardcore
>the game was already casual as fuck
Interesting way of ignoring what I say just so you can continue to shit out words.
>>318064797
you're a fucking idiot.
>>318064846
Great conversation. Have a nice day.
>>318064931
fuck you.
>>318065000
Nice trips. You wasted them on something so trivial. At least try to have a nice day. Go out and enjoy the fresh air.
>>318065114
eat shit cµck.
>>318064931
>>318065000
>trips
Let's not argue and post favourite music from original.
Because that's the only thing that will never return.
http://youtu.be/tdWi-RMkT34
>>318065273
>dodging filter
I love you too. You can stop any time now. Your shitposting won't make the game any less fun or more casual.
Anyone else never saw ratchet and clank 1 as being that hard?
seems like most of the people complaining just try to shoot everything with the blaster at point blank range and don't use every weapon
>>318065479
die.
>>318065528
It's more people love to shitpost.
>>318065573
No thanks. Your next post will be not even a full word, probably.
>>318065528
it's not hard, but it does require you to give some effort. this new game looks easy as fuck.
>>318065528
It is pretty hard compared to the rest.
>>318065693
shut up nigger.
>>318065528
Only times I found series "hard"
>Exterminator challenge mode
>the wrench don't get hit in 2
>hard mode bonus Vorselon
>Snievlak and Yeedil gauntlet runs
Least the games aren't ToD easy. Nanotech upon buying from weapons vendor.
>>318065805
Ask me nicely and I might. Until then, I'll continue to reply to your shitty posts out of courtesy.
>>318049565
>open barren design is good
ok ƒam you play your collectashits while we play our platformers.
>>318065894
Deadlocked was challenging as hell, it was great
shame the HD port is an abomination, I would have loved to play that online again.
Also tod is weird. It had a lot of challenging elements and areas but it also had stupid easymode bullshit like free unlimited health anywhere you can backtrack to a vendor
>>318066209
Is the port really that bad?
>>318066104
>shitposting and filter dodging intensifies
>>318065285
This guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNJIFOTBoEMIt's only just occurred to me that this was reused as the final level's main theme in 3. Copouts
>>318042283
Movie-Drek looks like shit.
>>318066329
Yes.
I owned it(and waited months more due to euro)
Holo shield is fucked
Local multiplayer is gone
Sound and game glitches
Slowdown(grave yard is not fun. Making things go boom takes time)
Fucked up models and animations
Idol games or insomniac have not fixed these issues.
The worst of the 3 remasters. Least everything is intact with 1-3.
>>318066483
Why oh why did they have to give him (& presumably the rest of the Blarg) normal eyes? Design would have been totally fine otherwise
>>318066718
>Local multiplayer is gone
unforgivable
>>318061797
My point entirely.
Why is /v/'s opinion on R&C generally so good? I'm finding myself agreeing with most people in this thread.
New music, crappy weapons. At least TJ Fuckman is no longer at Insomniac. I think.
>>318066910
>my original game was in readable by 2013
>was hyped for this
It is a fucking crime.
>>318066483
>>318066787
>pic
>>318066963
He's gonna be retconned to be good. At least have his redemption be in movie, or him be an unreliable narrator like vid comics.
>>318067023
>TJ Fuckman
Who exactly?
>>318066718
Holoshields were fucked in the 3 port as well (assuming it's the same thing where the holoshield is made up of several rotating squares?). After watching the developer commentaries for 2 & 3 & finding out just how many shortcuts they took to make things work it's not a surprise that there'd be some things which fucked up in the transition, but the amount of slowdown I've seen on HD Deadlocked is inexcusable - ruined both of my favourite challenges (Endzone & Accelerator)
>>318067302
Not that guy but he's talking about TJ Fixman, who wrote the Future trilogy and helped to write the movie
>>318067410
Oh, that fucker.
>>318067410
>that plot
>>318067924
Remember when ratchet and clank were just random guys?
Now they're both jesus
>>318057210
They were like that plenty of times in the old games
>>318059267
Well we've only heard some of it, most of which is probably just stuff for the trailers. Can't write it all off yet
>>318059542
The only real bumps were the PSP games, which don't count since Insomniac didn't make them. And maybe the two MP games, but only because they were clearly done to bank on the Future trilogy's success
>>318067924
I did like how palpable the bromance was in ACiT, & the fact that the game managed to feel like it was just aboutrescuing your bro & teaming up one last time to take down an old nemesis...oh & then some saving the universe thing while you're at it. In fact ToD did it pretty well too. Hopefully that's gonna have been thought out as 'they've been together for a long time' rather than just 'yay best friends forever! :)' - I don't wanna be seeing any of that in this film/game
>>318061797
But the Future weapons were just fine.
What DreamWorks faces, they look just the same as before.
They've been talking since Up your Arsenal
This is how reboots are supposed to be made.
I wonder if they are gonna remake the original RnC trilogy so it fits with the RnC future plot
>>318063754
From what I've seen with the demo, it handles just as solidly as the Future games.
>>318042283
Poikitaru is looks like shit.
The train area and other areas looks excellent though.
>>318068681
I would love that. Updated 2 and 3 especially would be absolutely amazing.
>>318068681
Don't you even fucking dare suggest such a fucking idea again anon, id skin your ballsack if you inspired Insomniac to retcon the trilogy.
>>318067208
He is still a narcissistic fucker
And it will always be hilarious
"You can do anything, as long as you're me"
>>318068831
Who said it's a retcon? Christ, calm the fuck down you spaz
>>318067023
Because RnC hasn't resorted to cookie cutter Dev shortcuts or tried to appeal to a bigger audience
The only thing is the gun designs are getting stale but developing 30+ guns per game you are bound to run out of ideas
Every RnC has a rapid fire gun a rocket launcher shotgun and some form of minion and a bomb
>>318068629
>future and post future weapons
>as main arsenal in Soleana before all this shit went down on PS3
If it didn't replace some of the old weapons are akin to the returning ones in the ps2, it would be fine. But the future ones take a majority of the weapons and seem like they are available from gadgetron.
>no Ricohet missile launcher
>we got a blaster again for first time in years and it's replaced with worse pistol again
>zurkon
>>318067208
I'm thinking the movie will be Quark getting redeemed after his betrayal, but the game might stick closer to the original with him getting shat on after the end.
The Snagglebeast fight clearly has him feigning ignorance about its existence
The music is kinda bad. And the weapons list is a bit meh. Aside from those over the shoulder dialogue sequencesthe series' comedy was mostly in visuals rather than the writing.it looks quite good.
>>318069086
Zurkon isn't that bad. If you don't like it, don't use it. I mean yea, it's a bit weird to have him in Ratchet's corner of the universe, but it's hardly that big a deal.
I think the only gripe I have with the reboot is the weaponry
Gadgetron shouldn't be on par with Grummel Net tech in this time
But rebooting RnC with Ps2 RnC arsenal would be gross
At least I don't have to grind bolts for the fucking tesla claw.
>>318069273
Zurkon (the Groovitron as well) was funny the first time he was showed and never again.
>>318048392
are you kidding me, the PS2 platforming was pretty godly
>>318069385
Don't hate on the PS2 weapons. The weapons in the first game were a bit lacking, but 2 honestly had a fucking great selection.
>>318066787
Because focus groups show you cannot relate to things that are not human looking
This is why mascot gaming is dead and resigned to the indie trash bin + nintendo
>>318066483
The normal eyes ruined it for me.
>>318069065
>I wonder if they are gonna remake the original RnC trilogy so it fits with the RnC future plot
Only way to do that is retconing shit, and fucking hell, thad'be fucking awfull.
>>318069501
I was referring to just the first game
The original trilogy had better weapons than the RnC Future Trilogy
>>318069391
It's still pretty useful when you need an extra shooter for the heavier swarms of enemies. Granted, the groovitron is being forced too much as a staple.
>>318069529
But the first trilogy had no plot, it was practically episodic, the second game is hardly even referenced anywhere after it happens. Not to mention the film is adapting the plot of the first with elements of the third
>>318059510
Yes, sadly. Whenever a dev wants to make a new IP that's usually code for "let's completely trash the old one and leave it to rot and die".
Sly got really fucking lucky, but it still took years for 4 to happen, and only because another studio called Sucker Punch out on their shit.
>>318069529
The only thing I see being retconned in Commando is the villian since Qwark is apparently good now
Up your Arsenal I'm not sure since the first 4th of the game is getting Qwark on his feet to not help you stop Nefarious
After Fallout 4, I really wish they brought back the Constructo Weapon system from ToD.
Only this time not half-assed and limited to 3 weapons.
>>318042283
>>318068758
I disagree - Pokitaru pretty much just looks like an updated version of the first game's.
However:
>that running commentary
At least the lines that characters would say before were just humorous stories rather than just 'you are now looking at [x] & will need to [y]', 'watch out he's got a [your current weapon]', etc
>that crate smashing
no impact at all to hitting them & they just go flying in every direction - no weight or satisfaction whatsoever. Also I hope they're using an obtainable Box Breaker & your hyper strikes don't just explode all the time
>gunplay
no auto-aim? I know it sounds casual but R&C has always been casual as fuck anyway, at least let me enjoy experiencing everything on the screen rather than having to look through that awful crosshair
>>318065528
If you played it as a kid, then yes it was pretty hard. Insomniac got a load of letters about Drek and it's why they never reused him.
>>318069760
Plus, Nefarious is in the movie, you can see his organic form. Whether he'll teal the spotlight from Drek or get "killed off" before the climax to appear in a sequel hook, who knows
>>318066910
He's full of shit. Local multiplayer is intact, online is gone.
Ratchet and Clank 1 is literally the weakest in the series if it wasn't the first on your played
Insomniac really took the time to improve upon their game.
>>318065528
1 is the only hard game in the series, mostly because you only have 4hp till you find the health booster.
>>318069864
>Also I hope they're using an obtainable Box Breaker & your hyper strikes don't just explode all the time
Might be, when I tried the demo, they didn't smash all that spectacularly, at least not like they were being aided by a tool
>>318069961
He'll probably meet the same fate he does in what we see in up your Arsenal
Fight him in a boss figbt
Cutscene of him falling into his robot machine turning him into a robot
>>318055820
>exclusive
Wow, Knack, Rachet & Clank, PS4 is amazing
>>318069595
PS2 games didn't have plot? What? It just wasn't some overarching "you're the chosen one!" bullshit like Future was.
Future's writing was fucking godawful.
It is nice that Ratchet's VA will get more exposure through this movie than he does through that pile of shit Johnny Test.
>>318069826
I agree. If there was one thing I liked about the ToD, it was the added effect of Constructo weapons and having their collectibles scattered as well.
My impossible dream is having a Banjo Kazooie style game with guns and mob density similar to the R&C series, but all your weapons can be modified via collectibles in the world, instead of Jigsaw puzzles or whatever else.
To progress, you have to collect certain weapon mods from the world, such as fire bombs or some shit that you have to lob over a wall to incinerate some vines keeping a door closed or some shit.
Oh well, I'll keep dreaming.
>Making Grummelnet weapons available through Gadgetron
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>318069595
Not him.
Zurkon was and has always been complete garbage.Any gun outdamages it by a large margin, and even though he sticks around for a wile he barely does any significant dps.
Plus, its much better not having to hear him spout stupid bullshit.
>>318069706
I already know all of those things, and whilst im somewhat miffed about Quark now being good, the rest mostly gets a pass.But what Im afraid of in the reboot is how they would inevitably fuck up the locations and the guns.Future series is far too techy, designs are streamlines, no boom has the oomf it once had..
Id much rather 2 an 3 to be the escalation of ratchet, having him be the commando, and evolve from just some guy with a blaster making a rickety ship to the equivalent of the Lombax God.
>>318069760
Like I said above, I mostly don't mind too much, but still miffed about quark.
Im more fearfull of them fucking up the basics of weaponry and stages.Weapon modding and such has no place at Gadgetron, and gadgetron has no right to be this fucking neo.
>>318069506
They wanted to make Drek relatable?!
DREK?
Jesus Christ who cares if the kids just think he's a bad guy for the sake of being bad, at least anyone with half a brain would be able to see his motives (helped by them being as simple & cliché as you can get)
>>318070157
Tfw he got all the exposure in the world playing Tidus in FFX
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Do you think he regrets that scene?
>>318070153
Meant to respond to >>318069706
>>318070153
>you're the chosen one
>last Lombax in the universe
Yeah, chosen one
>>318070101
I thought he just fell into gears in the original and got fucked up enough he converted to a robot and "forgot" he wasn't always one
>>318070458
Yes?
Are you arguing against me or agreeing with me? I can't tell.
New Sly game based on the movie when?!
>>318070313
God...
He really is a good VA, he just isn't suited for over-the-top acting I think.
>>318070571
Hopefully fucking never unless its done by Sucker.
>>318070481
Nah in the vid comic you watch Qwark accidentally push him into his machine and he emerges into a robot
Death to the squishies
>>318070153
No they weren't. First game was Ratchet being an unlikely hero, a selfish one at that before Clank straightened him out. Second game was just another adventure with Quark seeking revenge. Third game was Nefarious coming in.
And no, the Future Trilogy was not them being Jesuses.
>>318070236
Well that's your opinion, I think he's useful in a pinch and don't mind his banter, though it is the same stuff as usual.
Anyone else like Deadlocked?
>>318070656
But wasn't it just some machinery? I can't recall him saying it was for making robots, he just falls in and somehow got converted
>>318070101
Oh please no, it has to be Qwark who does it. Don't let Ratchet & Clank be his nemeses from the start.
Shit anon you've got me worried now
>>318063502
Why? Because of strafe?
But Second Son came out nearly 2 years ago anon.
>>318070814
I'm actually not sure, but I assume it was because turning into a robot because you got crushed by gears seems weird but this is RnC universe
>>318070458
No
Ratchet is referred too as the last Lombax with spunk
>>318070859
He's still after Quark. They're clearly keeping to him being the fallen hero, and that wouldn't mean much without at least ONE nemesis
>>318070798
It was good
I'd have liked it a lot more ifI ever played the co op
>>318070730
>Clank: You're actually not the result of a computer malfunction, you're the "son" of the leader of a bunch of powerful time-manipulating aliens and you're the inheritor of a machine that keeps the universe together!
>Ratchet: You're actually the last of your species in the entire universe, exiled by the last remaining member of their mortal enemies! Angela? Who's that?
Okay.
>>318070798
Yfw Vox studios was a fucking mock of Fox studios and they will never find out
>>318070958
Being the supposed last of your kind doesn't mean you're Jesus. Even then, most characters just assumed he wasn't important. Don't forget, the series has taken place in at least 4 galaxies or so, so Ratchet's fame isn't reaching to everyone.
>>318070458
Actually, he was one of the two last ones.
Ya forget Crack in Time there pal?
>>318070637
I could actually see them going back to Sly but I doubt they okay'd those designs and they were pretty burnt out on it.
>>318070798
It wasn't as good as Up Your Ass, but it had a lot of great moments nonetheless.
>>318070798
MA NIG
>>318071091
Clank's origin wasn't a malfunction, but something about his "mother" factory apparently deciding to resist Drek's plans. It tied just fine with Orvus' reveal, it's not a Jesus thing.
And again, Ratchet isn't hailed like some chosen one. He got left behind because his dad had to stay behind to keep Tachyon from getting the rest of the lombaxes.
>>318070798
Hated it when I got it for my tenth birthday, looking back it wasn't so bad.
>>318071201
Yeah, I don't think anybody actually lies the redesigns but furry waifu fags.
Goodness me, what the fuck happened to Carmelita, degraded to nothing more than pandering motion control belly dancing.bimbo.
They didn't even get the cane right.Beats me how they fucked that up of all things.
>>318070798
This was my first R&C
And some guy fucked it up.
Am I the only one who feels Qwark being good is a retcon for the purpose of showing our youth that heroes are secretly bad?
Maybe that's just me being a dad
>>318071440
The movie hasn't even shown Carmelita.
But if you're talking about Sly 4, you're massive pleb since that game as on par with Sly2. Even Sucker Punch thought it was a great game.
Future series fucking sucked ass, not holding out much hope for this.
They're too obsessed with being like disney pixar and they seem to have forgotten what made the series charming in the first place. Plus, do we really need to see shit like Mr. Zurkon and the disco ball again? They weren't great the first time round, now it's like a sick joke.
Mechanically it will probably be just like every other Ratchet game, and that's fine, but what's the point in buying a tarted up HD version if they already got it right more than ten years ago?
>preorder for Bouncer
LITERALLY BEST PRE ORDER BONUS
>>318071746
CiT was
You know
Fine
>>318071440
two sleep darts would solve the problem in a second.
but no..! these sanzaru/activision leftovers decided to shoehorn a minigame with sexuallized animal woman who'd never do anything like that.
>>318071686
Calling it now, Carmelita will be shit.
>on par with sly 2
Pick related
>>318071682
He's still not entirely good. The movie will probably condense his turn to evil and redemption all at once, while the game might stay closer to the original
>>318071819
CiT was pretty good, arguably the best.
>>318071686
>sucker punch thought it was a good game
>>318071814
>not plasma coil
It was the best and most useful gun in 2&3
>>318071746
Insomniac trying something new and rolling with it
Guess we are all used to devs doing the same thing over again
>>318071686
>But if you're talking about Sly 4, you're massive pleb since that game as on par with Sly2.
KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>318071819
CIT was terrible, only Quest for Booty was worse.
>>318064664
nice strawman
>>318071315
>but something about his "mother" factory apparently deciding to resist Drek's plans
Okay, it was something like that. It's been a while since I played it.
>It tied just fine with Orvus' reveal
CiT was pretty unmemorable to me, so I can't remember any exact details. However, I definitely remember that I thought the whole plot point was retarded when I heard it.
>Ratchet isn't hailed like some chosen one
You're missing the point. He IS the "chosen one" because he's the last of his kind. He's fated to fight his mortal enemy simply BECAUSE he's the last Lombax.
It's not that characters are actually saying that he's "the chosen one" (though, doesn't Admiral Ackbar or whatever his name is claim he is at some point?), it's that the plot setup itself implies that he is.
>>318071887
In the Future trilogy, yea. No doubt that UYA was the best of the PS2 games
>>318071941
They can't actually say anything else but that, regardless of what "they" truly think about it. They have to say
>"oh yeah, it was good, great!"
but really it's the weakest game in the series.
>>318071959
I always preferred the bouncer over the plasma coil but yes that was a very good weapon
Going Commando probably had the best late game weaponry
>>318069736
>Sly got really fucking lucky,
I seriously hope they will make Sly 5.
They cannot just put a cliffhanger like that and leave it at 4. Also did they ever say when the movie takes place?
>>318071686
Guy who said>>318071862
Just like to say this right here
>Even Sucker Punch thought it was a great game
Is the best fucking joke I ever heard in my life, thank you for the laugh pal.
>>318072051
It really doesn't imply that. Sure, "fate" wound up pitting him and Tachyon against each other, but it could have easily have NEVER happened.
>>318068329
No, never. Not to that level.
And I replayed the shit out of them, so I know.
>>318071862
It is. Sly 2 was the best of the trilogy. 1 s really rough and had a bunch of shit minigames, three also had too many shit many games. 2 was repetitive but it was the best of the three.
4 brought back a lot of what made 2 great, and added in service for the fans.
>>318071941
No, they thought it was great. If you really think it's sad a one dimensional character that was in half of one game turned evil you should readjust your
>>318072003
Take off your nostalgia goggles.
>>318072135
They don't have to say anything about it. The game director himself said he was genuinely impressed with Sly 4. MediaMolecule refused to comment about LittleBigPlanet 3.
Was I the only one disappointed with the Future series
I was hoping Ratchet would find a Lombax weapon and it would be overpowered as fuck showing how dangerous the lombaxes were making his decision to not bring them back seem more understandable
>>318070798
Had more replays than any other game in the series & favourite soundtrack of any game I've played.
Thought it had the strongest weapon selection out of any of the games (best blaster, best shotgun, best melee weapon, best mine, one of the best superweapons, best rocket launcher, & heck even the Holoshield was useful on occasion), & on top of that there were omega mods, alpha mods & 99 levels with fucking rainbows when at max power
God I wish the remaster wasn't rubbish
>>318072212
retelling of the first game.
after the penelope's "plot twist" i'd be happy with total reboot.
>>318072229
I did too, and they talked plenty about you having or needing to get a weapon for something.
>>318072212
>They cannot just put a cliffhanger like that and leave it at 4.
What was the cliffhanger? Haven't played it since it first came out.
>>318072328
>nostalgia goggles
I literally played the trilogy and 4 less than a year ago, eat shit you inbred retard. 4 is so bad compared to the others I don't even want to consider it canon.
>The game director himself said he was genuinely impressed with Sly 4.
Are you THIS dumb? Are you really THIS retarded? Of course he says "oh yeah it's good!", if he said anything but that Sony would instantly fucking remove him.
I cannot imagine you're anything other than underage. Either that or you're actually on the spectrum.
I love this little shit in every game
>>318072553
You need to calm down. Let's have a civil thread on /v/ for once.
>>318072535
Two endings: one where Sly beats the final guy and is accidentally sent into the past somewhere, and then a 100% ending where it shows Sly ending up in Egypt or something like that.
>>318072535
Sly gets trapped in ancient Egypt.
Though
>clockwerk is back
>one of the oldest coopers will appear
Nice... Cliffhanger.
>>318072328
>4 brought back a lot of what made 2 great, and added in service for the fans.
Ex-fokin-cuse you, I never asked for any of the shit they made, at all.
I never asked for carmelita, I never asked for every ancestor to be Sly but shit and with one "special" ability, I never fucking asked for wall climbing stages, I never asked for level backtracking, I never asked for unispired bosses, I never asked for a cliffhanger, i never asked for Penelope to go back on her established shit and become evil "cuz lolcash", I never asked for the shittiest fucking vilain ever made, a literal rich skunk fuckboy with a time machine to be the main antagonist, among others.
I never fucking asked for any of this.Best part of the game was Murray as the geisha, but that's it pal.4 is garbage.
>>318072664
Are you the same guy in the usual Sly threads who keeps defending 4 and saying it's good?
>>318072697
>Clockwerk is back
But that's a good thing. His "defeat" in Sly 2 was utter shi.t
NOBODY liked Clock-La. It was the most retarded thing ever, even more than the evil Sly team in the third game
>>318070571
Disappoints me that Kevin Miller isn't going to be voicing Sly in the movie.
>>318072664
You need to leave. Like, now.
Sly 4 wasn't bad by any stretch of the word, but it was disappointing and is not even CLOSE to on par with 2.
>>318072780
No, I'm not. I just want a thread about good game series where people are actually discussing the games and not just flinging shit everywhere when people say things they don't agree with.
>>318072553
>I literally played the trilogy and 4 less than a year ago
So did I. 4 was definitely on par with two.
> Of course he says "oh yeah it's good!", if he said anything but that Sony would instantly fucking remove him.
Of course you don't even read the whole post. Nate Fox is a genuine guy and gave his honest opinion. If he didn't want to comment on it he would've dodged the question. Try to ask MediaMolecule what they think about LittleBigPlanet3 and you will not get an answer from them.
>>318072704
>I never asked for every ancestor to be Sly but shit and with one "special" ability
Whoa hold on now, i understand your fustration, but nigga those ancestors were fun. how you gonna talk shit about Sir Galleth like that?
And you can never have too much wall climbing, i enjoy platforming type things.
>>318072553
Oh sure, because a company has totally fired someone before for not loving one of their products
>>318072904
yea... he can't voice act or something? other two managed to get in.
>>318073000
You're such an idiot, holy shit I can't stop laughing.
>4 was definitely on par with two.
I literally cannot stop laughing you dumbass.
>>318072904
u WOT
Kevin Miller IS Sly Cooper for fuck's sake.
>>318072704
You act as if the original trilogy was perfect. One was full of bad minigames, 2 had shit like Clock-La, 3 had a literal mad scientist monkey who was friends with Sly's dad and owned a secret island.
>>318072398
>I was hoping Ratchet would find a Lombax weapon and it would be overpowered as fuck
The Dimensionator? Pretty damn dangerous given what it did to Tachyon.
The Lombaxes didn't have to be morally ambiguous for Ratchet to be justified in not bringing them back - their original homeworld was a ruin & they'd likely found a new place to settle so dragging them back kicking & screaming just so he wouldn't feel lonely may not be worth risking destroying the universe
>>318072896
Not saying it's a bad thing, I'm saying that potential, lost because no sequel.
Yeah clock la was stupid.
>>318072904
Why?
>>318073137
They have to fucking endorse the game you idiot, they have to say something positive about it publicly. Internally they can say whatever, but if they say shit publicly it could affect sales.
When did this turn into a sly thread...
>>318072941
Not the guy ya answered, but pal, sly 4 is not good.No defense will ever change this.
>>318073000
Not him either.
You know they could not say it was shit.Sony would skin their dicks.
>>318073074
Most of them are asshole, but Galeth I have a issue with.Why?
Cause his level barely has any use to his special.Now, Tenesee Kid, he's the bro I expected everyone to be.
>>318073172
Ain't saying the first 3 was perfect, at all.But they beat 4 by a large as fuck margin.
>>318073143
Calm down, I can feel how upset you are through the screen.
>>318073292
Sly and Ratchet mostly have the same fanbase, just roll with it.
>this is now a Sly shitposting thread
For fuck's sake
>>318073292
Happens every time when some idiot says 4 is good.
>>318073337
Okay. I've never played Sly 4, so I have no opinion. Several people including you seem to dislike it a lot, so I'll just take your word for it.
>>318073271
They can still say something that isn't scripted love. God damn, you're dense if you think they're forced at gunpoint with this shit
>>318073271
No they don't, they would just give a ddogy answer that wouldn't answer anything instead of lying. And Sony wouldn't sack the director of their third most successful studio for saying something bad about a game that hardly sold made by a literally who dev.
>>318073345
I am upset, I really hate you 4fags, you have such fucking horrible taste I honestly can't believe it. And I say that because the Sly games are one of my favorite series, so when you retards pull that "4 is good!" or "4 is just as good 2!" I can't believe you're actually that dumb.
>>318073441
And then other idiots start arguing with him.
>>318073426
Nah, even Ratchet and Clank 1 is better than the best Sly.
>>318073686
please don't start a fight anon
>>318042283
I don't give a shit, mascots action/platformers games are so fucking 90's. Nobody cares anymore.
>>318073441
It didn't even start with that. It started because a guy mentioned Sucker Punch working on and movie and another guy started talking about Sly4.
>>318073763
>age devalues a game
This bait
>>318073686
that's it i'm out
>>318042283
I'm a huge ratchet fan and this and the movie both look a bit shit
Well, that was a good thread. Time to leave.
>>318073971
See you next thread man.
>>318069706
You.
I hate you.
>>318068629
>they look just the same as before.
Ratchets desgin has gradual got worse
He look like a fag now compared to how he looked in the first game
>>318073218
It just comes to preference, I prefer having the original voice actors, that said, I'm glad Bentley and Murray are the same VAs, while I'm personally disappointed that Sly will be having someone else (Though it has been stated the cast isn't finalized), I doubt it'll ruin the movie for me.
>>318073839
I never said that but if I wanted to keep playing the same shit I did in the 90's I would have a Wii U instead of a PS4. Insomaniac should be doing something different rather than another fucking R&C game.
>>318071746
I agree 100% with you
>Slyfags in my Ratchet and Clank thread
>>318074264
idont like that they changed his feet and head
>>318042283
>Port of a PS2 game
>exclusive
>port of a PS2 game
>exclusive
HMMMMM, something doesnt add up.
>>318074532
>Ratchetfags in my Sly thread.
>>318074730
Do you know what the word port means?
>>318042283
think you mean second good exclusive but yeah pretty excited for it
>>318074730
>shitposting
hmmmmmm
>>318074849
>its not a port per se but more like a "reimagining"
Go go gadget fuck yourself.
One time a good RnC thread pops up its ruined by Sly shit posters
Thanks.
>>318074681
His head and face have been fucked for sure
But everything else also has aswell, he doesn't look like a grown mechanic, he looks like a boy scout
>>318075213
Good RnC threads show up often, though. It's one of those games that get good threads. Like RCT.
>>318074494
To be fair anon they have ventured out, though to mixed success.
A Facebook game, a iOS game, an Xbox exclusive, some multiplatform, resistance.
I don't like how well he is trained in combat
Sure he is a Lombax but he got op after military training at mega Corp
>>318074494
>>318075405
They ventured out plenty, but Ted needs to stop being such a shitty suit and swallow his pride. They want to stay independent so they're doing anything they can just to get by. Apps, steam games, XBox game, FUSE, now an Oculus game. And none of them have been good so far, nothing they've made since ACIT has been good.
Maybe the new Ratchet has a chance since Insomniac makes both studios collaborate now instead of handing it to North Carolina.
>>318075594
That was just an excuse to retcon his personality from 1 because he was so badly received, both critically and internally.
>>318075893
Nah, it most likely won't be recieved verry well, ratchet 1 wasn't the best of the series, but Its quite understanable that people will be mighty miffed about just making it Future.
They really need to just do the same shit they did in CiT.
>>318070798
I liked all the original games, never understood the concept of "hating one and loving another",
Bring back Deadlocked's style of humor
Future series is alright but the humor of the series definitely peaked with UYA and DL and has been declining
Weapon quality has also dropped since those two games
>>318076203
Are you kidding? There's not really an audience for Ratchet any more, that's why they're trying to reboot it for kids. Most people I know are excited for it because the original trilogy was great and everything afterwards were pretty forgettable.
>>318076452
Won't happen. Insomniac has dedicated "writers" now instead of using their regular developers to write a story.
>>318076582
The stroys been crap since the ps3 games
I hate these dedicated writers
>>318076453
Kids won't want it, quite obviously, this new generation is far too different from the previous ones, so the only guys and gals left are the kind that played it already.
The most likely won't like it either.
>>318076453
I think there is, they just have to stop trying to be dreamworks and go back to being cool
>>318042283
GOD NO
Ratchet & Clack is only for Ps2 except galdiator
The first, second and third Games were amazing
>>318043356
In April
>>318076582
Man, I could put up with the GREAT DESTINY ANCIENT EVIL plot if we just had consistent side characters being as fucking hilarious as the Dreadzone cast.
https://youtu.be/SCFKaVPnIeg?t=11m28s
>>318076926
Gladiator is for PS2.
>>318077261
>blow shit up!
It's nostalgic.
I've never played this series b efore, I was thinking of getting the Ratchet and Clank collection but I also wa sinterested in the Jak collection, I only have enough for one right now
>>318077831
The first three RC games are great
The First three jak games....have some problems
>>318077261
>That fucking juddering
I hate the HD port so much
>>318077831
get ratchet and clank, it's more fun overall
>>318077831
Buy the R&C HD collection and Deadlocked HD(DLHD has weird stuttering though, PS2 version if you can)
>>318077831
I'd say try out R&C first.
I like Ratchet and Clank games to an extent until I reach the point where I'm just side flipping during an endless circle strafe cycling through more and more less effective weapons on a boss.
I have many memories of doing that in the Battle Arena of Up Your Arsenal.
>>318077831
The first Jak and dexter is the best game among all these titles but overall the R&C collection is more solid
>>318077996
>buying deadlocked hd
Ever ever man.
Only time you get it was as that bonus with FFA.
>>318077701
>>318077261
http://youtu.be/Fpeyw5d95kM
>the music
One time dark edgy rock and a futuristic mascot game works.
>>318042283
Never played any R&C game ever. Are they collectathon games ? Haven't played those in forever and I might be tempted...
>>318042932
I just played that and experienced no slowdown
>>318078225
Fuck nope, not a colectathon at all, think 3rd person shooter-platformer
>>318078225
They're third person platforming shooters. Damn good games, one of the best series on PS2.
I wish people still played All 4 One online
>>318078193
Jak X is another example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvefSHR4vzY
>>318078225
they're only collect-a-thons in the sense that you pick up money and there's rare money
>>318078373
Wish FFA had more online support.
>>318063474
I played yhrough the whole series recently and it was always easy.
The only thing that has ever changed is controls.
And ACiT had the hardest puzzles of the series.
>>318078225
It's a 3D platformer that requires you to grind a ton to use endgame weapons
>>318078225
No, they are semi-open-world-level-design platformers with at least 10 different guns per game.
>>318070936
Second Son was good but it's too short for a $60 game.
>>318044167
>Implying InFamous, Bloodborne, Disgaea 5, and Until Dawn weren't good
>That said I'm hype as fuck for the new R&C
This.
>>318077831
Jak 1 is its own good game. Jak 2 and Jak 3 are edgy poor man's R&C.
R&C 1 is great, R&C 2 is amazing, and R&C 3 is outstanding with all games standing on their own yet marking an improvement with each one with all games worth playing. It's no contest.
>>318078420
Should I buy collection? Is it stable?
Never played jak series. Played other two though.
Also will jakx get a po- never mind.
>R&C1 if Qwark wrote the script.
>>318078772
Playable, but reasonably glitchy. There is NOTHING in the collection that is better, but water textures and weapon effects tend to look like shit.
Try emulation first.
>>318078189
>jak and daxter
>better than even R&C 1
ahahahaha
It's a good game but all it has to really put it above that is nostalgia and atmosphere. I could link to some 30 min video of a slightly idiotic reviewer who actually makes what are mostly (mostly) fair points as to why J&D is overrated and nothing special but you probably don't want to watch that because it would depress you.
Jak and Daxter is a good, ok, 7/10 platformer. R&C 1-3 are the best western games on the PS2.
>>318078318
>not a colectathon at all, t
UYA and GC have a giant field where you just scour for bolts, and the first game has hidden golden bolts you have to bust your ass to find, it's primarily blow shit up but there's probable cause to explore around
then the PS3 titles don't give a shit about that
>>318079018
Anyone ever watched gexup at one point in life?
Remember his
Naughty Dog vs Insomniac series.
>>318078523
ratchet 1 is the only game you have to really grind in
the other games will get you everything in like 3-4 playthroughs
>>318057210
Literally just in-universe HelpDesk
>>318078373
I played it a few months ago but only for the trophies. It was pretty bad.
>>318042932
It might, this R&C game is also 30FPS
>>318079129
Tools of Destruction has monster hunter planet
And so does ItN
but overall there's less non-combat stuff to do.
speaking of, anyone else really like the space combat and racing in 2? I was really dissapointed to not see them return
>>318063474
Nigga the only difficult thing about 1 vs the other games is 1 has shit controls and poor aiming. You don't get strafe till late game and even then its awful.
>>318079129
Actual guy here.
Remind me in what planets those fields were.
I don't really consider hidden secret currency with small bonuses enough to deem a game a colectathon, especially with a massive focus on gunplay.
>>318079238
Not really.
>>318079367
We know there's combat on Pokitaru in your own ship. i'm sure they'll bring it back for the moon base too.
>>318072459
>this mad over Penelope
Calm down
A reboot is the last thing we need
>>318058580
the horribly compresed audio is available like, everywhere.
they're never going to release the original versions
>>318079431
Tabora, the desert planet and Grelbin, the ice planet in 2. 3 had Aquatos.
>>318079402
1 had harder enemies and worse gunplay which made it harder
>>318077261
>>318077701
God I miss Dallas & Juanita
>>318079367
Sargasso was like the only part of ToD that I remember
>>318079431
Tabora, aquatos, and grelbin
>>318079176
yes
Guy was really fair and didn't parrot others. He made utter sense with Crash 1 vs Spyro 1. He actually favored Crash 1 for just reasons.
He made the point that Spyro 1, while massively atmospheric, was the early game in the series with relatively easy and bland platforming outside of levels like Lofty Castle. Crash 1 on the other hand, while it is also the early game with no Analog controls or a good save system, benefited from being a linear platformer. This was because being linear meant the player was constantly engaged with platforming challenges, meaning on a platforming basis Crash 1 was better.
And he said this during a time where linear games were shunned and everything had to be open. What a guy.
>>318079454
I WILL RIP IT
Eventually. I promise. To myself.
>>318079564
>keyboard and mouse? Bunch of casuals, I play with a gamepad to make it much more challenging and hardcore
Please, improving controls so they aren't shit and improving base gameplay to be faster is not "casualizing" the franchise
>>318079540
>>318079613
Oh yeah, Tabora and Grelbin.Man, I remember farming those places, good times.
Aquatos chilled the fuck put of me though.Damm amoebas.
See, besides the limited need for them due to a maguffin, there is no point in collecting shit other than cash.And 3 was just a dungeon that gave ya cash.
Meh, just seems like some sort of bounty system to me, you aren't colecting these for the sake of you need to colect them, mostly just cash.
>>318077831
It's a Ratchet thread so most people will tell you to pick Ratchet first but honestly I prefer Jak.
If you haven't played Sly though, that should be the priority.
>It's a remake of the first one
Ehhhh...
But I wanted a new one...
>>318079850
I fucking hated Grelbin and Tabora. Grelbin is a fucking nightmare, those yetis don't stop coming and they take a billion hits. You just grab the crystals and run away.
>>318079921
HOPEFULLY they will make at least one game to fit with the original canon.
Maybe.
>>318079986
I liked it, music was the chillest and the actual challenge was apreciated when compared to Tabora.
I miss the bestiary though. So good.
>>318079435
Pretty much, yeah.
>tutorial messages
>progress hints
It's HelpDesk
>>318079735
Compare 3 to ACIT to Nexus if you're really retarded enough to cherrypick arguments.
>>318043494
>implying R&C1 hasn't aged like shit
No strafing just made the game bullshit. I think this series is a prime example of how the gameplay improves with each (non-spinoff) sequel.
I've been itching for a new proper R&C for a long time but having played Into the Nexus I'm a bit worried that it won't be as good as before. That and that its a remake of the original which I've played multiple times.
>>318079986
A billion hits OR two Plasma Storms
Still the most tedious parts of the series though - one thing in fact that ToD did significantly better than its predecessorsIt's lucky that they're largely non-compulsory then, isn't it?
>>318053705
The original Spyro had a lot of sprinting / gliding sections, Tree Tops especially caused a bit of frustration. Spyro 2 was a huge change and was so much easier and the third had too many side characters and dumb missions ruining the mood.
>>318079608
>First time encountering a leviathan on cabolia
>sargasso's extinction
>Giant amoebas
>gargathon battles in the sky
>dodging yeti's while killing arctic leviathans or mining and avoiding desert dune monsters.
>mfw
Look, insomniac needs to make a monster hunter/lost planet rip off with these. They were fun to fight and were well designed.
>>318080930
>Spyro 2
>easier
It improved basically everything and was definitely harder with bosses and certain objectives.
Also YotD was fantastic
>>318080447
>Aged
ok, in one regard only
>like shit
fuck you
>>318081245
NO FUCK YOU
>>318080930
Spyro 1 is one of the easiest (In a good way) games I have ever played.
Tree Tops just had that one island that took a bit of thinking to get to.
>>318081192
It was, I went through and 100% the Trilogy last year and granted I'd already played 2 & 3 but not 1, 2 I got through really quickly but 1 & 3 took me a while. The first actually had some difficult jumps and those Egg thieves which returned in the 3rd.
>>318081595
>That one egg thief in 3 who can glitch and lock you out of getting 100% forever
Why
Every R&C thread reminds me that Nexus exists & that I'm yet to get it. I understand that it's not as good as the PS2 games, but is it at least better than QfB? That's just about below the limit of quality that I'd be willing to pay for with this series
I want to suck Ratchet's cock.
>>318081747
Better than qfb yes.
>>318081961
Ratchet is not for sexualizing, anon.
>>318079921
It will feel new enough, anon.
>>318081961
Do not sexualize the lombax anon.
>>318081961
You're late. We had to make do with Sly 4 shitposting instead this time
>>318081595
>granted I'd already played 2 & 3 but not 1,
Well that would be why you thought it was harder.
If you know the first as well as the other two, it is clearly so much easier.
That island in Tree Tops is only difficult the first time because you have to find it
>>318081747
In terms of Future, ACiT>ItN>ToD>QfB
>/v/ told me a Crack in Time was good
>almost as good as the original 3
>get hype and then play it
>its terrible, made Deadlocked look like a masterpiece
>only managed to finish it because I had literally nothing else to do at the time
It honestly just makes me sad that there are people here who think a game like that is even approaching a good level. The series is basically dead now, or at least just a zombie.
>>318083298
>liked Deadlocked and disliked ACIT
into the trash it goes
>>318083471
I like both.
>>318083040
Yeah but I hadn't played them since I was a kid and was much more used to 3d Platformers by that point. Spyro 1 was different, more focus on exploring maps to find hidden gems and what not where as 2 and 3 had more silly mini games.
>>318083298
>ACiT below Deadlocked
>ACiT ever being bad
>ACiT not being the best game out of the Future series
Id point you to the trash board, but even people with shit taste like you don't deserve that kinda hell.
>>318070798
It's okay but one of the shittiest games in the series.
>>318077831
Ratchet 3 > Ratchet 2 > Jak 1 > Ratchet 1 = Jak 2 > Jak 3
>>318082041
>>318083262
Cheers, will grab a copy in the new year then
>>318083298
Wouldn't go that far. In fact I honestly thought it would have been a decent contender for the top spot if the music hadn't been poor & the weapon selection arguably the worst in the series up to that point
>>318078225
It's a series that starts off platformer and becomes progressively more and more third person shooter. That's not a bad thing like it was for Jak though.
It's not really a collectathon, you travel to different planets and do one or two mostly linear "levels" on each. The order at which you can travel to planets/do levels isn't strictly linear though.
Jak 1 is a straight up collectathon, maybe check that out?
>>318072005
I don't understand the hate for QfB. And CiT was great.
>>318083814
All R&C's besides non insomniac and spin offs>Jak and Daxter> All other Jaks
Okay maybe J&D is better than Quest For Booty, but really, it doesn't come close to R&C.
I will admit it is atmospheric and pretty looking as fuck in the early stages like the village and beach, or the Snowy Mountain, but gameplay wise R&C has always outdone it. At the very most, Jak and Daxter's atmosphere could bring it equal to R&C 1.
>>318083298
>dissing ACiT
>Dissung Deadlocked
inb4 is only 5 hours long like their last 3 games.
I like Mr. Zurkon and the disco ball. Especially the disco ball, so fuck you all.
>not enjoying the different dances the enemies do
>>318084313
Maybe it's nostalgia but I think R&C1 has a style that none of the others capture. Maybe it's in the music, or in the more platform-oriented gameplay.
I do like how open ended the first Jak is. That and the fact that it doesn't really fuck up at all is what makes it good in my eyes.
>>318084578
It's nice, but there's overusing it and not allowing a new selection possible
RC1 was better off being a little dark than the stupid family friendly crap its becoming now.
Ratchet is supposed to be an asshole who couldn't care less about saving the galaxy until the endgame.
>>318084578
The Groovitron is god tier.
I know they made Nefarious human in this movie for a setup to a sequel.
But I doubt the movie will make enough to warrant a sequel. So now the audience will never experience the full extent of Nefarious.
>>318083298
But it's the best game.
>Clank segments actually fun
>space combat improved
>spherical worlds entirely optional
>lots of content
>a radio
>controls are perfect
>weapons are great
>level design is great
Like honestly, what was wrong with it?
>>318084478
I got the fucking platinum trophy on Nexus in 12-13 hours (I played through it in one sitting), I hope that's not the case with this one.
>>318084724
This.
Ratchet being a asshole should have stayed.Its what makes his character building good, he starts as a complete asshole nobody and grows into a actually decent comando.
But hey, Insomniac thinks kids these days will eve play Ratchet and Clank, here's hoping sales go like shit an they learn to just make a better CiT instead of shit like A41.
>>318084227
Short. Annoying NPCs. Can't remember a single time it was funny. No new weapons & the for the only time ever in the series the game pulls a 'you start off with everything, lose it all after the first mission & have to get the exact same things back'. Felt very kiddy in general. Kinda ruined the pirates for me after them being one of the highlights of ToD
>>318084724
>the stupid family friendly crap its becoming now.
Anon, that was always what this was.
Ratchet was only ever an asshole in the first game, and not even Insomniac liked it.
>>318084778
He becomes a robot in the movie. There's even footage of him as a robot in the game.
>>318084724
>>318084981
He's was never supposed to be an asshole. Insomniac employees have even said he was never supposed to come off as that way in the game, which is why they change him so much in 2.
>>318084981
>Ratchet being a asshole should have stayed.Its what makes his character building good, he starts as a complete asshole nobody and grows into a actually decent comando.
Why does everyone think he was an asshole in the first game? Sure, he wasn't a stereotypic goody two shoes but he wasn't a dick either.
>>318084970
Im pretty sure it will be based on the marketing of this game is minimal, and Insomniac still salty at sony.
>>318059510
Even the Ratchet games I have the most hate for (SM, SAC, A4O, and FFA) are for the most part not bad games, and at worst are just incredibly mediocre with some really annoying parts here and there. There series would have a long way to fall to reach the level of the bad Sonic games, let alone Sonic 06.
>>318085384
He kinda was, but not really.
I liked him in the first game though.
>>318042283
>30fps
But there are 60fps R&C games on the PS2 and PS3. Why would I want to play the same thing just at a lower frame rate?
>>318085384
>Threaten to sell Clank for scrap metal
>Mean to him for a good portion of the game over a misunderstanding
>Nearly leaves him at the ending but only comes because "psyche he's le good after all?\"
>>318062626
Ratchet was only really an asshole in the first game, and his story arc in that game was him learning how to be less of an asshole (especially less of one towards Clank). By Going Commando he already had become fiercely protective of Clank ("Touch him and it's PLASMA CITY!"). Which is a considerable shift from the first game where he outright threatened to sell Clank for scrap more than once. Ratchet actually grew and matured over the course of the series.
>>318085384
For one he didn't care about Drek destroying planets until later and he was a complete asshole to Clank after Qwark tried to kill them.
>>318069517
This. If Clank can be expressive with single colored eyes, why can't Drek?
>>318043707
the later levels in the first 3 games were kind of difficult
>>318085930
>Nearly leaves him at the ending but only comes because "psyche he's le good after all?\"
But he never actually intended to leave Clank behind.
>>318084857
ACiT is one of my favourites (heck, most of them are) but I'm gonna play devil's advocate here:
The only way I found to play the space combat was to fly in circles, spraying & barrel rolling constantly. Which wasn't fun at all.
The radio was such a great inclusion but at the same time marred by the music being so inferior to the PS2 games'.
What weapons did you think were great? I thought it had the poorest selection out of any game up to that point.
>Sonic Eruptor was fun but totally outclassed by the later shotgun
>Buzz Blades were good but were just reused from ToD
>RYNO V was good but its gamebreaking nature meant you were stuck with using something less OP unless you want to hear that fucking symphony constantly
>Chimpinator was enjoyable but the standard morph ray & also became incredibly OP once upgraded
>>318086157
Nah in 2 and 3 he would still be an ass to people, he had just bonded with Clank
Then in future he became bland and just muh people and wheres muh clank
quick
post the gif of carmelita being bound up on the chair
google and doing shit for me
>>318087075
You are a pathetic individual.
You can TOTALLY find it, but you can't be arsed to.
Fuck you, you deserve nothing.
>>318086442
I liked the bromance in ACiT. Once you got Clank back I felt a sense of completeness, & Ratchet actually started focusing on the whole 'stopping the bad guy & saving the universe' thing in the usual manner (which made him a lot more like the old Ratchet who didn't really bother with being a hero without his moral compass backpack).
The Lombax stuff was annoying I'll admit, but it tended to feel to me like Ratchet cared almost as little as we did about that stuff. He never got as angry about Tachyon wiping out most of his race & banishing the rest as he did whenever someone wanted to harm Veldin
>>318087706
>He never got as angry about Tachyon wiping out most of his race & banishing the rest as he did whenever someone wanted to harm Veldin
What do you expect? He never knew them. On reflection, I like that at least.
>>318086383
>The only way I found to play the space combat was to fly in circles, spraying & barrel rolling constantly. Which wasn't fun at all.
Shit, I did the same.
>>318087925
Exactly. Ratchet didn't buy into the whole 'last of your kind' BS that was set up around him. He wanted to find out more out of curiosity but had no real emotional attatchment to them, & in fact refused to bring them back - twice.
The writer may have come up with a shitstain of a situation to drop him into but at least he didn't join in with it.
The same can't be said quite so much of Clank's 'you are the chosen one' bit though. I'm sure there could have been a better way for them to give exposure to the Clock
>>318086381
Yes you reiterated my post. Congratulations.
>>318088527
Ratchet was the kind of guy who just did his own thing though. Especially in the first game. Clank always felt he had much more of a moral responsibility.
>>318088527
>The same can't be said quite so much of Clank's 'you are the chosen one' bit though. I'm sure there could have been a better way for them to give exposure to the Clock
I liked it though, and I liked that there was that parallel between Ratcher and Clank's stories where they were being mentored by father figures from a lost family they never knew.
And Orvus is adorable
Although they really glossed over the details of Orvus creating Clank. It was just "you were built in Solana but where did you think your soul came from?"
What does that mean? Is Clank just an Orvus back-up file? They have the same laugh, so maybe
The last boss of CiT was cool
>>318089386
>Size Matters
>okay reaction
I played it several times. It's shit.
>>318089492
I liked the armor system as well as some of the weapons. Otherwise I'd agree.
>>318089492
I think it did a decent job of porting the Ratchet gameplay to PSP
>>318089584
By the time you got a full set of any armor, it would already be obsolete, since it will be too weak against new enemies. And forget about choosing your favorite combinations, since all but one are too weak by the end of the game.
>>318089732
Yes. Except the camera MOVES WHILE YOU'RE JUMPING, NOT LETTING YOU SEE WHERE YOU LAND. Bravo, High Impact, great choice!
>>318079921
It's a reimagining.
>>318090049
>read your post after watching TRSHE a dozen times
>>318088986
I did like it in a lot of ways, but I had to consciously play along with it in a way that I hadn't really had to with the series before
>Is Clank just an Orvus back-up file? They have the same laugh, so maybe
That's pretty much how I interpreted it. Did Orvus also make the Zoni or was he just a special one?
>>318089120
A nice surprise end sequence, for sure. But he had way too much HP & speed to make the only weapon that would have worked thematically usable. I wonder if there would have been possible to make an Omniwrench only fight work...can envision a Crash-style boss
>>318090368
>watch TRSHE
>love it
>go to check out more Twin Perfect
>[cricket chirps]
Man they really blew their load early huh
>>318090574
I like their newest content, but that's just me.
>>318090574
Agreed. Even the new TRSHE parts that were made after Fungo left started to feel lacking.
>>318081245
enjoy rotating to fuck when shooting and running around like a retard because there is NO STRAFING, and reaching down with your thumb to shoot with the circle button.
>>318042283
This probably sounds like shitty nitpicking, but is anyone else tired of seeing the overuse of bloom to validate their "NEXTT GENN EXPERIENCE"? It's hard to look at Metropolis now because everything is smothered in bloom and lens flare to hurt your eyes.
>>318091862
I recently went back and played Tools of Destruction.
That first level doesn't look as good as I remember.
>>318092103
ToD is so blurry
>>318066718
>>318067303
funny. i don't remember anything being wrong with holoshields in the remaster.
>>318091575
>not pressing the action buttons with your index finger while rotating the camera with the thumb and pressing R1 with the middle finger
>being that inflexible
>>318069273
>HURRR IF U DUN LIEK IT DUN USE IT
kill yourself.
>>318092363
Play originals
3 in port is buncha squares
Deadlocked means it doesn't omega mod upon contact.
>>318072026
you don't even know what that means you cu ckold.
I stopped playing at Gladiator and that was only the fourth game in. What have I missed?
>>318092476
>defending the claw
>>318092791
>Gladiator
What?
>>318078308
This is a joke post right?
That game's framerate is pretty much unplayable.
>>318092791
You missed arguably the best game in the series and unarguably some of the worst games in the series.
>>318092873
I think it was called Deadlocked elsewhere? The one where Ratchet was on a gameshow about killing shit.
>>318092905
The framerate was stable the entire game
And I still cannot see the difference between 60 and 30 when I had just played ACiT extensively before it.
To call it unplayable is nothing less than a blatant lie.
>>318093056
Do Eurokeks not use the word "deadlocked" or something?
>>318092905
not him but i only ever had some hiccups with a boatload of zombies coming out of the ground. other than that it's pretty much a smooth 60 fps.
>>318093210
No, the game was just literally called "Ratchet: Gladiator" in Europe.
>>318093326
Huh. That's pretty weird. I never really understand localization name changes.
>>318093171
Nexus is still playable but it's a pretty jarring difference.
A stable 30 would be fine but Nexus is even worse than that.
>>318092791
The future subseries
>Shitty writing
>A massive boner for one or two really annoying weapons
>But otherwise fine games with some really cool stuff like the hoverboots in CiT, arguably the best Ratchet since 3
Nexus, which is like a third of a game and enjoyable for $10 or so.
And a bunch of shitty spinoffs
>>318093451
Going Commando was also changed to Locked and Loaded, and Up Your Arsenal was just shortened to R&C 3. They also dropped the Future subtitle from all the Future games.
>>318093171
>And I still cannot see the difference between 60 and 30
This is the PlayStation average audience
This is why the remake is running at 30fps instead of 60, because consoleplebs "can't see the difference"
Fuck you
>>318093534
>A stable 30 would be fine but Nexus is even worse than that.
I'm telling you man I've played it through to Platinum and just did another when replaying the series and never once did the framerate dip for me.
The HD collection though
That one has a couple issues
>>318093451
Yeah I don't understand why you'd change a name like Up Your Arsenal for a british release
>>318091575
>being this casual to actually need strafing in a game where most enemies die with 2 wrench hits
>not even using the thruster-pack strafe
>>318091862
Bloom is actually a great tool in moderation and I think R&C uses it tastefully. I really wish Insomniac would have at least tried to make the game 60fps but besides that, I have no visual complaints. The game looks amazing. The gameplay looks just as good as all the others.
I'm just worried about the writing. I'm so afraid that this reboot is going end up turning the franchise into a shitty parody of itself in order to get mass appeal. So many series have gone down that road and it'd be a real goddamn shame if R&C followed suit.
>>318093572
I can see the GC and UYA name changes as some slight form of censorship, but the "Deadlocked" to "Gladiator" and the dropping of the future subtitle seems pretty arbitray
>>318093647
As far as I can tell, the only good way to see the difference is panning the camera around a static point, or a side-by-side.
In-game, when I'm actually playing, I can't tell.
And even then the difference is minimal. Visually speaking at least.
>>318084578
Ehh, i could do with a new version of mr zurkon, he's getting stale, plus he's filled the role of autoaim buddy for a while now.
>>318093921
Of course you can't tell when you're playing, you're focused on the gameplay. Framerate is really more of a subconscious thing. You didn't notice it.But your brain did.
I always like how when you get out of the ship it'll show you a wide shot of the level ahead.
Maybe if you're gonna be entering a building, you can see a shot of the building from outside.
It's a cool thing.
>>318094365
Insomniac have always showed off their levels like that. Wasn't the original intention in Spyro that each level would start with a flythrough to show it off?
>>318094363
How can my brain notice it but not me?
Get this hippy bullshit out of here
>>318085306
Nah, they just pleased the kiddies because they couldn't get a clue.
>>318058580
Just use PSound you dummio.
>>318079454
ADPCM is not that harsh a compression compared to MP3 and it can really pass for uncompressed (audio is guessed, not deteriorated).
Too bad about 1's music though, since it's always been in mono.
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