>Play and beat game
>Refund it afterwards
What's wrong with this plan tbqh?
Fuck off, Australia.
Literally nothing. If the game lasts less than 2 hours, than the dev deserves no money.
>>318032228
its a abuse, if you beat the game then it means u enjoyed the game so u should not refund it
>>318033996
If the game is less than 2 hours long then the devs don't deserve the money.
Few games are 2 hrs long.
You're costing money to the dev.
You get warned if you refund a couple times in a short period.
You could just pirate it.
>>318034116
huh? what do u mean?
>>318034180
you can try to beat the game again?
>they buy games without replay value
>they play games without replay value
>they even talk about games without replay value
>>318034202
>You get warned if you refund a couple times in a short period
That's what you think, I've even refunded games that I bought with the money I refunded
>>318034504
And did you read the e-mail they sent you? You won't get banned or anything, they can just decline whenever they want, so you'll be stuck with Gone Homo if you try to be too funny.
>>318034180
>>318034202
out of curiosity, what games can be beaten blind in 2 hours
>>318034584
>And did you read the e-mail they sent you?
They only said: refund accepted, they never sent me any complaints
>>318034610
Hotline Miami
>>318034610
Probably shitty indie games that the OP wrote in his basement while eating frozen pizza.
I don't get why anyone would buy games without replay value
>>318034610
I beat Hotline Miami in 2 hours but that was pre refunds.
>>318034610
Walking Simulators.
>>318034610
Cibele, be sure to tell her the game sucks on the refund request.
Otherwise, look here:
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Short
Be sure to not go over 2 hours or they will probably reject your refund request.
>>318034610
most CoD titles
indie trash
>>318032263
>CDN$
>>318034610
Portal.
Nothing.
What kind of a stupid fucking attitude is
>If I can beat it in under 2 hours the devs don't deserve my money
What the fuck is wrong with you? If the game costed $80, then yeah, I could understand this, but oh, if it costs $5 for just under two hours of gameplay, that's horrible. Yup, but paying $80 for a 4 hour triple A title is just fine by all of you!
Jesus fucking Christ. The developer put all this work into a product. If you enjoyed it, and didn't pay much for it, the least you could do is not refund it like a fucking jewish parasite.
However, if you paid something like $20 for a very middling 2 hour game, I can understand the disappointment, but even still, it should vary from product to product.
It should be a balance of price, quality, and quantity that makes you decide if refunding a product is the right thing to do. Spending $1 for a 20 minute long game is fine by me. Spending $30 is a rip off.
Unlike jews, I believe people should be compensated for their work, at least if it's good.
>>318035316
>playing cod for singleplayer
/v/, everyone
>>318036206
Depends entirely on the game.
A high quality street brawler with half a dozen bosses? I'm happy if the game is an hour long, that's a great amount of content.
A JRPG? If it's not at least 15 hours long, you're an absolute joke of a developer.
One genre requires immense effort. The other requires sticking a stock engine in and writing a bunch of dialogue. Generally, your average indie game will have all the effort of a bowl of cornflakes, and thus longevity is the only appeal.
>>318036206
If you beat it and enjoy it and think the devs deserve your money....
Then don't get a refund
It's that simple anon!
>>318034861
>Can't review games you haven't played
>Terrible policy
Hahahahahaha
>>318036915
Please understand anon, she has put two games muh artsy games that are about 2 minutes long on steam.
>>318036713
I did say that it depended on the game, but I still think that your expectation should partially be based on price.
Plus, I think it's silly that you think a JRPG HAS to be a certain length. I see absolutely no problem witha JRPG game only being a few hours long.
Plus, lets just take an example here. Say you had the opportunity to buy this 15 hour long JRPG, and it only costed $3. Do you see that as a bad deal? I certainly don't. $1 for 5 hours of fun is a pretty fucking good deal if you ask me.
Plus, I'm sure you'd be more than a little frustrated if that street brawler costed $50 and only lasted one hour. Sure, you might replay it, but I could say the same thing for the JRPG. It depends on what sort of person you are.
As for your final statement, I just plain out disagree. I'm a pretty major fan of indie games. Hell, I'm willing to bet I own most of the indie titles on steam, and I'm usually finding quality titles, though there is plenty of complete trash to be sure.
>>318032228
Nothing at all
Just imagine the number of refunds gone home could had get if this was aviablen when it got released.
>>318033996
> if you beat the game then it means u enjoyed the game
Not really. I finished Dear Esther, but I didn't like anything about it.
>>318035527
Cunt Dollars at Nowhere
Thats Australian currency
>>318035819
Only if you know what to do.
If not it probably takes 5 hours.
>>318036915
If anything they should increase the time you need to play the game for.
>mfw I see someone with 1h game time writing a detailed review.
>>318034180
That's dumb.
>>318032228
If you enjoyed it you shouldn't get a refund. Because that's not the purpose of a refund.
>>318037293
Hello Nina Freeman.
>>318037035
The street brawler has actual replayability.
I know you've never played one, so there's not much point in trying to talk to you about them, but an hour's worth of gameplay gets stretched out pretty well when you add some challenge to the game.
People who replay JRPGs are total faggots. It's the same tired, 30 year old game, in shiny packaging.
The price doesn't matter. JRPGs are devoid of gameplay, so all people are playing them for is the story. A 15 hour story is generally going to be much worse than a 30 hour story. The longer the game, the better. Measuring in terms of cost per hour doesn't work for the genre.
As a fan of indie titles, you basically have a total lack of taste. You're playing cut-down, under-developed concepts.
>>318032228
because you might as well just pirate it
wait...
>Press X to Not Die
if you paid money for that you clearly don't deserve to have money on your own.
>>318035316
No black ops game can be beat under 2h, or any cod before WaW
>>318037141
kek'd
>>318037504
I've played a few street brawlers, but nothing really modern, since I admit, I find them incredibly boring.
I don't play JRPGs either.
But saying price doesn't matter is fucking stupid. You're making all these generalisations about games and myself that are just not true. How am I supposed to have any sort of reasonable discussion with someone who literally states "you like this therefore you know nothing about anything" and "anyone who plays X games are faggots"?
If the game is under two hours and doesn't impress you enough to be worth keeping, then nothing.
I've liked short-ass games enough to keep them knowing I might play more, but if it's just some shitty unsatisfying vignette game there's no reason not to refund it once you're done. It's on the devs to make a game that's actually worth buying if they want to sell it on Steam.
>>318035819
>>318034696
>>318034647
both of those have insane replayability so people don't want to refund them, free market at work
>>318037504
the only street brawler I've ever liked and replayed is ragnarok battle offline because it had insane depth and completely varied gameplay with every class
most modern brawlers are complete shit
>>318032228
Did you actually like the game atleast? I know the director of the game personally so this is interesting to see it mentioned on here.
Nothing. I do it on every shitty 2D indie game.
>>318034236
He implies you're a cyka.
>>318038826
Thats funny because the game itself was very popular with russians for some reason.
>>318034732
I'd like to see you beat Pathologic in 2 hours.
It's dishonest and a good way to get your account flagged. You're no better than a nigger. Just pirate the game, faggot.
>>318037504
Ys is an action jrpg with focus on gameplay and replayability. Not every jrpg is final fantasy
>>318032228
If you doo it too often they'll see through the scam and deny you further ez refunds
>>318037954
>Portal
>Insane replayability
What?
>>318040865
At least I think so, I liked speedrunning it (not to autistic degrees)
>>318032306
I think the 2 hour limit is way too low since most AAA games don't even start picking up until at least 5 hours in.
>>318040915
That's not replayability.
Replayability is game design that lends itself to repeated runs. Alternate endings, different paths, different classes.
Portal is 100% identical every run. To say that speedrunning makes it have "insane replayability" is to say EVERY game has insane replayability since people speedrun everything.
>>318034610
well looking through my games these are the only short ones i bothered to play and complete
>dlc quest <- this game is garbage
>tiny and big
>dear esther
Are the steam refunds automated? Does putting anything in the reason box even matter?
I can never refund games that are over the limit but I see people with 80+ hours getting refunds
>>318041007
>Portal is 100% identical every run.
No it wasn't, unlike Portal 2 there were several solutions to every puzzle, some that took insane skill
if a game lasts less than 2hour why would it even be on steam and not free download from the devs blogsite?
>>318032228
steam will shit down your mouth and never give you a refund again if you abuse it
>>318041048
That just sounds like Valve fucked up their level design, I doubt those alternative, hard solutions were intended
>>318041131
>that just sounds like Capcom fucked up their game mechanics, I doubt those hard combos were intended
>>318041030
If you're within the constraints they set you, so <2 hours played and bought max x days ago, then it's automatic, when you go over that someone will check your application
>>318041218
Then what the fuck do I put to get people to accept the refund? I put my damn heart and honesty into why I wanted the refund but 5 mins later "Denied"
So god damn frustrating
>>318041292
Did your refund a fuckzillion things already? Maybe they're fed up with your shit
Just googe for some legit problem with the game and claim you got it too, I guess
>>318032228
>beat the game in under 2 hours
no, refund is justified. fuck these sort of games with nothing in them.
>>318041450
What if it cost 1€
>>318041448
I've only ever requested a refund twice before, I'm not trying to milk the system just get rid of DayZ.
I guess I'll try what you said
why buy a game just to beat it and refund it though? why not just pirate at this point?
>>318034610
Thought it wasn't on PC, that Vita COD game was barely an hour long.
>>318032228
> steam wallet
> steam still has your money
no OP youre retarded
>>318042095
>spend money on vidya
>get back money
>spend same money on more vidya
>>318035316
>most CoD titles
>2 hours
Straight bullshit right here, are you retarded? Why are you pulling shit like that out of your ass?
>>318032228
Nothing. It phases out garbage indie games. Games that shouldn't exist.
>>318032228
Did you enjoy it?
Was the price acceptable?
I yes, you are cheating the dev out of money that you morally should have given them.
>>318043253
Oh...
>>318041007
If I play the game more than once, it has had replayability for me.
>>318041028
>tiny and big
it's the only fun one you listed. I got it for 1$ in a humble bundle and I say it's worth at least 5$.
>>318034610
Press X to not die, as posted in the fucking OP you blind man.
But then again, it was sold for less than 2€ already.
First and only refund so far was STRIDER™.
Literal WiiWare trash. I blame myself for buying a Capcom game past 2010.
>>318032306
>>318034180
just like movies amirite?
>>318032228
>download game
>enter offline mode
>play it
>finish it since on offline mode it doesn't count the hours you played
>refund the game, buy another
woah
>>318046491
hey guys
>>318032306
>If the game lasts less than 2 hours AND the player feels like getting rid of it forever afterwards is a great idea, the dev deserves no money
Fixed.
Most classic action games last less than an hour, but I would never in the world just get rid of them. If they're good games, I want to keep them and replay them.
>>318046491
Offline mode still counts your hours.
Nice try though
>>318034180
I disagree. There are more things that determine a game's value than just how long it takes to beat. I think there are plenty of short, but still very valuable games. Just look at Journey for example, a very popular and critically acclaimed game. Do the developers of that game not deserve the money because it only takes about 2 hours to beat?
>Buy game
>Refund it if I haven't played over 2 hours by the refund window
It's basically what I do.
>>318036573
I liked the modernwarfare story a lot actually
