Who has faced the most dangerous enemies/bosses?
>>317998840
>Souls games will come to an end in your life time
The first Dark Souls MC.
>>317998840
This tbqh family. The Four Kings and Manus are some shit, ya feel me? The Chosen Undead had a hard life.
I would say it goes Chosen Undead > The Hunter > The Slayer of Demons > Bearer of the Curse
>>317998840
I have to give it to the one who faced an enemy who can delevel him. So The Slayer fo Demons.
>>317999131
>akari reaction(590)
>(590)
Please tell me you do not have 589 other Akari pics.
Can we limit the discussion to the worthwhile games?
>>317999641
NNNNNGGGHHHHH!
I'd say the Hunter just because the enemies he faces make normal humans go insane and are basically gods.
>>317999821
dark souls 2 was a lot better than bloodborne and demon's souls
>>317998840
Chosen Undead defeated fucking death itself. You don't just ask questions like that, Anon.
>>317999765
He probably has over 1000 and he just chose a random one from the middle.
>>317999765
what makes you think 590 is the last one?
>>317999821
You forgot Dark Souls 2. Don't worry, though. It's in the OP.
>>317999830
I fucking heard it in my head you maniac.
NNNNNGGGHHHHH! YAAAAGHHHHH
>>317999956
1,7/10
Someone might actually think you're serious.
>>317999956
I'd say chosen undead and the hunter are pretty close. The rest are weaksauce
>>317999956
>PCucкs still salty they can only ever play 2 of the 4 souls games
>>317999821
Sure thing, buddy! Let me provide a picture. Thanks for the template.
>>318000056
Ain't got shit on when you kill old king doran. Screeching whales.
>>317998840
>Hunter literally killing the makers of Nightmares in their own planes of existence
That's a little bit more impressive than killing a god on the basis that the Great Ones created their worlds in their image
>>317999959
And then burned himself of got lost to history. Bearer of the Curse actually is immortal and went beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of dark.
>>318000341
Funny thing is I killed Doran and don't remember that. Maybe because it's a one off thing.
>>318000140
>>317999821
I think Dark Souls 2 is as good as Demon's Souls.
>>318000740
Well you're fucking stupid.
>>318000740
I'd place it slightly lower, but I have a special place in my heart for DeS just because it was my first. Both have some advantages and disadvantages.
>>318000792
No. You.
>>317998840
Slayer of Demons. He fought both demons AND eldritch horrors. Everyone else pretty much only fought one or the other.
The hunter faces several space alien gods
>>318000849
I agree it depends on which version of DaS 2 and patch kinda. I hold that opinion because I don't really have that much of special attachment for Demon's Souls but I do for Dark Souls 1.
>>318000503
>Throne ending
You're just letting the cycle follow it's course. You will all the same end up a rotting hollowed carcass roaming the undead crypt just like Vendrick. The Herald is pretty clear on that
>Refusal ending
>Listening to Aldia
>Implying he isn't gonna manipulate you for some 100,000 year bullshit grand scheme
>>318000935
>eldritch horrors
You mean these guys? Hmmm. I don't know. Pretty horrifying but Eldritch?
Or do you mean the Old One? Not sure about that one as well and he didn't really fight it.
>>318000503
I hate how people think the Alternate ending of Dark Souls 2 is the dark lord ending.
The original ending was both the light and dark ending from 1 and told you you would eventually choose and repeat the cycle. The new ending is saying you'll look for a third option that no one has tried before "beyond the scope of light and dark" and that's fucken kwel.
>>318001276
Didn't you defeat Aldia? Then you are free to do whatever you like being immortal and keeping you sanity not going hollow. The only downside is that being undead sucks in general.
>tfw Bloodborne is your favorite in the series and it will never get a sequel
>Age of fire is about to come to an end again
>Some deep power related to the flame is summoning back past lords of cinder because nobody was able to link the fire
>Your dude is now stopping everyone from linking the fire so that the age of dark/man can finally come
such a good setup, works with the futile feeling of the series, to make you realize that for 2 games you were just a pawn and probably doing something you shouldn't be doing
>>318001575
What makes you think that? We know that FROM is working on another Sony title, and we know that Sony knows the value of the IP.
>>318001524
The game implies he's still alive because he narrates the alternate ending.
He was probably just testing you to see if you were worth it and he is either harder to kill than that or immortal, which probably corroborates with what >>318001276 said, he has a plan and he's gonna use you to get there.
>>317999131
>Souls games will come to an end in your life time
Thank fuck, I love these games but I would rather them end here than get rehashed into oblivion.
>Oh boy a FROM ARPG boss discussion thread
>Nope its just a DaS2 bashing thread.
T-thanks...
>>318001362
I meant the Old One. He is technically an Old God.
>>318001575
there will almost certainly be a bloodborne sequel
>>318001575
Got this from reddit so don't take it at face value.
>>318001708
The "souls" series is coming to an end because From want to make different kinds of games, they feel like they've made enough souls style games.
Which is sad and awesome because DSIII with Miyazaki will be great and that acknowledgement that they really don't want to run it into the ground, but it'll be sad that we won't get more games that play like that.
Slayer of demons, because of maneaters.
>>318001575
Honest question. Not trying to start shit. How do you feel inside the broader community considering your favorite game is the most different?
>>318001860
You say as people are balls deep in a DaS2 ending/Aldia discussion. Shut up, dipshit.
>>318001965
It's a fan account.
>>318002004
>hey feel like they've made enough souls style games.
this is a company who made literally 497 armored core games because each game made like a $30,000 profit
>>318001886
But they say the Old One was placed there by God in case he wanted to erase existence or something. That's how I got it.
>>318001524
You sure did, but him being dead is really debatable, with him not dropping his soul and his voice being heard during the ending.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DEFEAT THE ORPHAN OF KOSM
>>318001860
Let me help you out here.
Dark Souls II is a solid 8/10 game, a ton of content compared to other souls games, looks and runs great on PC.
But it's the weakest souls game by a good margin.
But of course most people would rather be more dramatic than that.
>>318002017
Warding makes Maneaters piss easy.
>>318002321
>kosm
>>318002321
You get good at the fight.
>>318002059
I like Bloodborne the most because of the changes they made to it. I much prefer dodging than blocking in games, the slower pace of Souls games bores me after a while and I like the horror theme way more than medieval fantasy. I feel that Souls fans don't give the game the credit it deserves either because exclusive or because it deviates from what the Souls games are. I feel that despite all the changes, Bloodborne is definitely a Souls game just with a different in-game currency and I hate how the fanbase separates BB and Souls
>>317998840
chosen undead and the hunter faced the most dangerous
chosen undead killed a bunch of greek inspired gods
the hunter killed a bunch of lovecraftian gods
demon slayer and bearer of the curse just killed a bunch of demons. demon slayer did get to kill a god in end so I think he beats curse bearer.curse bearer also had worse waifu
>>317999959
>Chosen Undead defeated fucking death itself
No he didn't.
If you're referring to Nito please just get out.
>>318002321
>Kosm
You dropped your fedora, faggot.
>>318002321
>KOSM
>>317998840
The King's Field protagonists.
>>318002345
It's not just being dramatic I'm not one of them but I have encountered a lot of people who played literally a few hours and dropped it because it wasn't what they expected/was different of whatever reason. Then they come here and complain and use the harshest words when most of their issues came from not knowing how to play.
>>318001886
You never fight the Old One.
>>318001362
The Old One from Demon's Souls is a being much like the Great Ones from Bloodborne.
Both are godlike beings who belong to an elevated realm of existence and can bend reality to their will.
So in my opinion it goes like this:
The Good Hunter (Fights the Great Ones themselves) > Slayer of Demons > The Chosen Undead = Bearer of the Curse
>>318002536
its mostly just hated because its an exclusive
the reason /vg/ has to separate general 1 for souls and 1 fore blood is because pc fags would always start console wars and then sonyfags would always say never ever.
>>318002609
For me, I had more fun with DS2 purely because of the fact it's a much better port and has way more content.
But I like Dark Souls and Bloodborne more.
>>318002345
Dark Souls II is a solid 3/10, DLC included.
>>318002321
>Kosm
>>318002421
>>318002581
>>318002587
Nigga, if yo got a friend named 'Nicholas', you call that fag Nick.
Kos is just short for Kosm,as some say
Chosen Undead easily.
Manus, Kalameet, O/S, Nito... he's seen some shit.
>>318002537
>demon slayer did get to kill a god in end
I don't remember that.
>>318002857
come on anon, it's only Kos
>>318002857
Kosmfags were BTFO with the DLC, idiot. Kos is canon.
>>318000740
It is substantially better in almost every way except worldbuilding and community.
And even then the community has been retro-actively infected by all the cancer that has invaded the souls series in the last few years.
>>318002421
>>318002581
>>318002587
Some say Kosm, shitlords
Why did they waste their best character designs on weak, easy bosses?
Also, why can't captcha always be turkeys? It's so much easier when I'm drunk.
>>318002803
But isn't it better that it's separated? I mean even if it didn't have to be separated because of shitposting there isn't really all that need for it to be in one place since BB doesn't have much overlap with the rest of the games. DeS is very similar to DaS and is good for comparison and stuff and DaS 2 is supposedly a sequel so they have much more overlap. BB just had some Umbasa line and I don't even know what came out of that in the end.
>>318003238
If you want him to be hard just let the two giant skeletons notice you.
>>318003238
just get a pass niggaif you're worried about giving the gook personal info just use Bitcoin or some shit
>>318000072
But dark souls 2 was a good game. It had a lot more content than dark souls, a much more balanced pvp, a fuckton load of weapons/armor that look gourgeous (Best fashion souls by far) and plenty of DLC support
I almost killed the ender dragon one time
>>318002345
I don't give a shit if it's ok on its own, it's a huge downgrade from the previous games and BB in almost every single way and I refuse to give it one ounce of respect for that reason. Games don't exist in a vacuum, they deserve to be judged in the context of their series and DS2 was a massive failure in that sense.
Bloodborne Hunter.
The others only risk their lives. The Hunters get their mind raped into another dimension and are held prisoner by some fucking Event Horizon shit.
>>318003219
Fuck you Micolash
>>317998840
Probably the Good Hunter/Foreigner, as most of the bosses are almost literal Lovecraftian horrors. The Chosen Undead also had to deal with some similar shit like Manus and the Four Kings. But then there's The Demon Slayer, who fought His Majesty The Level Sucker.
After thinking about it, I'd go:
The Good Hunter/Foreigner >/= The Chosen Undead > The Slayer of Demons > The Bearer of the Curse.
>>318002857
>Nigga, if yo got a friend named 'Mikolash', you call that fag Mik.
>>318002818
I liked it because it was different. Kinda how BB is different but in another direction. DaS just had a troubled development and ended up having some issues as a result.
>>318003379
>List of good things about Dark Souls II: tons of useless items, PVP and DLC
Yeah I agree it sucks.
>>318003219
>>318002857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJhC78WMqJU&feature=youtu.be&t=2m15s
It's Kos, the Kosmos.
I think Micolash had the revelation that the sea of stars of nothing but Kos' body, as in, they're equal.
I have no idea what the events in the expansion mean for this, though.
>>318003565
Mikor some say Mikm
>>318003005
the old one
There was alot of evidence that he was a the god that miracles prayed too
there was some lore vids about it
>>318003638
>>318003365
don't tell me people actually do this
>>318003565
They probably do in Australia.
>>318003721
But you never kill the Old One, the maiden in black puts him to sleep.
>>318003238
He gave much of his power to death (so that some of the undead beings could die) so he was very weakened and not at his full power.
>>318002920
>An amalgamation of the humanity from Oolacile, a dragon, a knight and an executioner.
The only truly impressive being of your list is Nito because he is the first of the dead that cares for all the dead.
Now take Amygdala, it exists on an elevated existence and you can't even perceive it without "planting eyes inside your brain".
>>318003591
>dark souls 2 is a bad game, except for the weapons, the gameplay, the map, the atmosphere, the armor, the history, the DLC support and the pvp
how does it feel to be stupid anon
>>318003219
Only dumb retards say Kosm.
>>318003608
The Fishing Hamlet is literally over the city. You can see boats floating in the area and deep below that "sea" are the top of the building and churches of Yharnam. We are in the puddle of mud; Kos is over us. So every crazy shit NPCs shout is probably true in the literal sense.
>>318003436
> it's a huge downgrade from the previous games
You start off fine and then you go and say stupid shit like this.
Both Demons and Dark Souls are hilariously broken games and stayed that way for the majority of their lifespan.
In DaS, you had ninja flipping havelmoms, the worst netcode ever conceived, two absolutely broken covenants (Gravelords and Dorkmoons), You had black flame and all of dark magic, you have three aslyum demons as bosses, you have pinwheel, you have ToTG and Nito, you have everything Izalith related after Quelaag, and even Seath is garbage. Out of the four Lord souls three are terrible and thats a solid thirty percent of the game, just awful.
I really like the Souls series but I hate that it associates me with some of the most blind and retarded fanboys this side of Bioware forums. You people are END OF RINE tier.
>>318003436
Well who said every new game has to be better that the previous or the next? Sometimes shit happens and in the game ends up not what was originally planned and or unsatisfactory. I mean eventually a game wasn't going to be as good as the others DaS 2 just got the short straw. (pretty determinedly pulled on it too)
>Fighting over Kos or Kosm when her name is clearly Kosmos
my keks
>>318003493
One thing I'll admit about BB, no other game has crazy shit like that one. It's not for everybody.
https://www.change.org/p/from-software-do-not-release-bloodborne-for-pc
>>318001276
There was another ending? No matter what I did, right after killing Nashandra I got the throne ending.
>>317998840
Demons
>>318004183
I have no idea what the fuck is going on this game.
I've heard the guide for Old Hunters has a section specifically dedicated to lore, including a WoG-timeline. Might need to get that shit.
>>318003721
You never fight the goddamn Old One, the Maiden puts it to sleep and you can then murder it on its sleep, you never fight it.
The Good Hunter fights Great Ones like Amygdala, The Moon Presence, Orphan of Kos, etc.
>>318000140
>Sonycucкs still this mad dark souls 3 isn't exclusive
>>318003721
>There was alot of evidence that he was a the god that miracles prayed too
It was more than evidence, it was outright stated I think.
>>317999956
So bait it's not even funny.
>>318002321
>Being a Kosm fag
>>318003973
oh stop it with this bullshit
"it's supposed to be a shit bossfight because of the lore!"
i hear this thrown around so much in souls threads, especially for Gwyn. a game shouldn't be balanced around DA LORE
>>318004420
>Making petitions so someone else can't have something
top kek
>literally every game after demon's souls vastly improved on its mechanics
>b-but das2 is the worst! B team!
anyway, the hunter > slayer of demons > chosen undead > bearer of the curse
>>318004695
it should you moron
>>318004447
The lore is interesting but more is how physical it is in the level design along small details that give some cohesive and recurring image that is only referenced in Lovecraft stories.
>inb4 tip fedora
>>318004183
>Dark Souls 2, windmill takes you into the sky, suddenly lavaland castle
BOO B TEAM FUCK YOU
>Bloodborne, climb a clock tower into the sky, walk out of it to be in a water town place
BRAVO A TEAM
Literally.
>kos
>>317998840
You can eliminate The Hunter for being in a dream so he could as well fight robots in space who cares it's not real
You can eliminate DaS2 because it's shit
You can eliminate the Chosen one because everything he killed was in a weaken state, he was basically dusting off the world.
The Slayer of Demons was taking back his world from the fog, he fought beings that were operating at their full potential.
>>318005052
>kosm
>>318004695
Well if the Moon Presence was super strong then it wouldn't need to mind control a Hunter and trap him inside a dream for nourishment.
And the True King Allant being a blob made sense thematically and showed the player what happens to those who hunger for demon's souls.
But I agree with you, nothing in the lore justifies Nito and Gwyn being weak, they should be just short of godlike since they have such powerful souls.
Both were byproducts of Dark Souls being a rushed game, nothing more. The justifications for their weakness is merely baseless fanwankery.
>>318004872
No it fucking shouldn't
the entire FINAL BOSSFIGHT of Dark Souls 2 ended up being nothing more than a parry test for players that figured it out. and everyone praises it as "WOW SUCH STORY TELLING, TRULY AN EMOTIONALLY GRIPPING EXPERIENCE"
no, standing still and pressing two buttons to kill the final boss does not count as a well-designed bossfight just because the lore makes sound justified
>>317999821
Not this shit again. The hivemind won't stop.
>>318004061
>weapons
Worst weapon selection in the series.
Only a couple of weapons have unique moves, infusions suck, secondary effect sucks and most of them are outclassed in every way.
>gameplay
Floaty shit with Soul Memory, broken poise system, bad hitboxes, lazy enemy design and placement, repetitive boss battles, ostracized invasions, trivialized message system, rehashed content and no new ideas.
>the map
Bunch of straight corridors, empty rooms, no interconnected level design, tons of bonfires everywhere, teleport available since the beginning of the game, too many enemies.
>atmosphere
Really enjoying those Heineken cans in the Grave of Saints and the truck wheels in the Gutter. They really add to the atmosphere.
Also loving the graphical improvements they did since the first trailers.
>armor
Looks like plastic compared to Demon's Souls and Dark Souls.
Also it's completely useless.
>history
Maybe Havel... Was a man... Or perhaps... He was a place...?
>DLC
Overrated.
>pvp
I'll give you that.
>how does it feel to be stupid
I think you're more qualified to respond.
I'm not sure but chosen undead has seen some shit no undead should see. I wonder what his past life was before he was in jail. As for the bearer his journey was the hard part not the bosses (fuck you alonne shithole and smelter kike).
haven't played demon souls.
And hunter probably gets second since fucking gerhman and old watchdoge are fucking hard and one mess up and you're fucking toast.
DLC brought up good shit for all three and improve them game(Manus, artorias, fume, sir alonne, ludwig, maria). Props to from for making baller as dlc bosses.
>>318005251
you're a bozo
get outta this thread
>>318005251
Dark Souls 1*
>>318005251
>parry test
So every fucking souls game ending?
I think ds2 was shit also but thats not an excuse
>>318005251
You mean Dark Souls 1
>>318004927
I get that, but I really can't piece it together in a meaningful way.
Then again, considering the matter, maybe that's where I'm wrong.
By saying "referencing", did you mean that I'd need to have read his short stories? It's been a while since I've picked up my copy of the Necronomicon.
Kind of frivolous of me, in hindsight.
>>318005329
Bed of Chaos.
kms
>>318005329
>As for the bearer his journey was the hard part
>Oh no, this pillar has been knocked over. I now must produce 4 great lord souls to take the detour around this tiny fallen pillar a four year old could climb
>>318005025
>having heard it in notes and crazy NPC
>taking it figurativelythe sky and the cosmos are one
>>318005079
Nothing that happens during Bloodborne is a dream you dumbwit.
The hunter's dream is a separated realm created by the Moon Presence, but everything outside it is the actual real world.
Even the nightmare is an actual place.
>>318004504
Why should I care about it being exclusive or not?
The only thing that matters is that I can play it, and I can.
>>318005334
great arguments
>>318005438
are you saying that you can parry final bosses to death in all souls games? cause that aint right at all. I incorrectly wrote DaS2, when it should've been DaS1
>>318005025
Bloodborne's biggest problem is lack of variety in general. This extends from level design, to weapons, to enemy design, to everything.
It was a fun ride but it's nothing like DaS where I finished it and immediately jumped into NG+ and did it all again. I have no desire at all to replay Bloodborne because there's so little variation.
I would've welcomed some nonsensical scenery changes like DaS and DaS2 had. DaS more than DaS2 pulled off a crazy amount of variety in the level design while still feeling cohesive.
Bloodborne just feels lazy by comparison. Or maybe just sticking too closely to the tone they wanted to set. Some people will praise it for this but it suffered for it IMO.
>>318005025
>>318004447
>>318003608
>>318000424
Honestly we cannot gauge how go the great ones are becasue they are beyond human coprehension but this pretty much.
>>318005157
>KOS
>>318005617
You can proceed without the 4 great souls if you grinded enough souls through the game. It's only about the possible consequences of trying to proceed on your journey without doing so, like that red-haired girl whose name I forgot says.
>>318002321
>Kosm
Nigga you need more eyes
>>318002069
How does it feel to be wrong?
Save for a few posts being on topic, this is literally a shitposting general, I posted some on topic stuff and it got pretty much ignored in favor of more shitposting.
>>318003191
>It is substantially better in almost every way except worldbuilding and community.
DS2 shits the bed as far as level design goes (at least the vanilla game).
Bosses are about the same, although DeS had more creative gimmicks.
>>318001417
just wait for Das3 m8.
The cycles gonna end.
>>318005329
>I wonder what his past life was before he was in jail
That depends on your starting class.
Which boss had the best arena and why is it 4kings?
>>318005961
>a bloo a bloo why can't I get (you's)
>>317999131
Good, the series went to shit when it went multiplat anyway.
>>318006015
because that pitch blackness was scary as hell. loved it
>>317998840
DaS2 is my favorite but I gotta admit the first game has the more threatening bosses. Shit like Manus and the Four Kings. And that piece of shit of an annoying dragon that was Kalameet.
>>318005965
>Bosses are about the same
What in the fuck did I just read
>>318006015
It's fucking nothing.
>>318005709
Bloodborne is far from lazy. The game is also a next gen one. The amount of detail required in assets in just one area outdoes the entire polycount and budget for a whole area of Dark Souls. They cram alot of detail and clutter into the game. There are very different locations but I guess you're going to just boil it down.
I could do the same for Dark Souls. In my opinion, much of the game takes places in the same mossy brick environments. Bloodborne has variety in stuff, it's just the nature of the game required alot more development for the same stuff than would require in dark souls.
For Dark Souls 3 to maintian bloodbornes level of detail but then say, Dark Souls 2's breadth of areas, they'd have to have a ubisoft sized team working on the game.
I happen to think there is plenty of weapon variety in Bloodborne at least now with the DLC. Dark Souls really in essence only really had a few top teir weapons that everyone ended up using, the rest of which were only used for gimmicks or to be edgy and different.
Bloodborne is just more action game focussed than rpg focussed though. I think of it more like a dmc style array of weapons rather than an rpg style array of weapons.
DLC is great though, it's more of a full blown expansion than the dark souls games DLC's were. Bloodborne + it's DLC I feel offers plenty of area and weapon variety.
>>318002801
This is correct.
>>318006015
>>318005914
>KOSM
>>318002321
Some say kos desu senpai.
>>318006139
copypasta/10
>>317999821
Can you limit yourself to gobbling horse cock instead of posting?
>>318006139
>The game is also a next gen one. The amount of detail required in assets in just one area outdoes the entire polycount and budget for a whole area of Dark Souls.
tales from my butthole
stopped reading there because if you are this misguided everything else you said must also be nonsense
>>317998840
Good hunter > Chosen undead > Slayer of Demons
however Chosen Undead has the most to lose seeinng that he can completely hollow out. Good Hunter can get fucked over pretty hard or lose his strength at the end of the hunt, also he still ages likke a normal human. Hunter of Demons is just kind of trapped in llimbo/immmortallity
>>318005709
Victorian city
Sewers
Decrepit, abandoned city
Church
Rural village
Forest
Prison
Snowy Castle
University
Spooky Dreamscape
Spooky Dream Castle
Bloodbran was alright. I just wish it had more underground areas that weren't the shitty chalice dungeons
>>318006085
Undertale posts should be confined to >>>/mlp/
>>318006490
the fuck are you on about? I haven't even played tumblrtale
>>317998840
Discussing Souls in this cesspool of a board is pointless. This is fucking ground zero for the cancer plaguing this series.
>>318006164
Except, The Chosen Undead faces an incredibly powerful amalgamation of humanites, Manus. While the Bearer of the Curse only fights against fragments of it given form and power, and then is tested by a being who attained an existence outside the cycle of light and dark who can't be killed anyway.
So Chosen One > Bearer of Curse.
>>318006570
Try ignoring the shitposting and sticking to the discussion. The more people doing that, the more we can get something going.
>>318006115
DeS bosses werent really anything to write home about. They were creative, but most of them were balanced pretty poorly.
>>318006476
What is this trying to say to me?
>>318006796
you'd have to have lost your mind to not understand that
>>318006724
lol ok
>>318006109
Manus is a legit boss fight but 4 kings is an awful piss easy boss fight and Kalameet is Sinh v0.5a
>>318006796
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You need more eyes, anon.
>>317999956
You take that back you fooking cunt.
>>318006880
The third panel, mainly.
>>318006796
I think its LOSS edit.
I get it but its not very funny imo
>>317998840
The Slayer of Demons fought the biggest creatures
The Chosen Undead fought the deadliest creatures
Bearer of the Curse cut through fucking everything with easeDark Souls 2 is seriously way to easy
The Hunter fought the spookiest creatures
I'll say Chosen Undead > The Slayer of Demons > The Hunter > Bearer of the Curse.
>>318006796
You need 40+ Insight.
Lose some sanity first.
>>318006906
I'm only talking about boss art design. In terms of gameplay I prefer DaS2.
>>318006015
Gerham/Moon Presence
False King Allant
Maria
Orphan of Kos
Ivory King
Sir Alonne
4Kings
Rom
Sif
>>317999821
>>317999448
>The Four Kings
The boss is easy as balls if you have a good shield.
Dark Souls was my first Souls game and I beat them on my first try without having any idea about the boss.
And I am not trying to imply that I was great at the game or anything like that. I am just saying that The Four Kings are notably easier than the other bosses in the game. In spite of how much /v/ and /vg/ pins them up as a fearsome boss battle.
Just fuck your precious dodge rolls. They may be stylish but if you can't reliably defeat all of them without a hitch by dodging perfectly, why even try? You don't need to roll.
Run in. Hit them. Block. Run in. Hit them. Block. And repeat this process for all of the Four Kings. It's fool proof. Even a little scrub like me was able to do it on the first try.
If you are having trouble with The Four Kings, just stop trying to be fancy. Grab a good shield that is actually able to block their attacks without breaking your guard. And strike, block, strike, block, and repeat until you have won.
The boss fight is incredibly easy because the bosses are all incredibly one-track minded. They never move. They always do the same type of attacks. They always remain in front of you. You never have to worry about anything unexpected. So just strike, and block. They'll never do anything different so you don't have to either.
The only way they are any issue whatsoever would be if your damage output would happen to be too low to kill them in time before the spawn adding to one another. Leaving you fighting multiples of them at once.
But if that's your issue, just get a better weapon. And strike, and block. The patterns of the bosses are simpler than that of most regular enemies.
Okay, hold up.
If Oeden is watching the Hunter through the main game, who's the dude behind that thing in the expansion?
Am I the only one who thinks the difficulty has progressively increased since Demon's Souls? Especially with the release of The Old Hunters, all previous releases can't hold a candle. Manus, Kalameet, O&S, Fume Knight, etc. are baby food compared to Ludwig and Orphan of Kos.
>>318007035
Well if we are gonna go by art design alone then i can only pick Hunter guy. Dat nigga's seen some shit...
>>318006884
who were the best DeS bosses?
Flamelurker, Maneaters, Allant, Old Monk (super creative, but kind of shitty if you're playing the game offline)
>>317998840
First boss PTSD inflicted on MC ratings:
Demon Souls:
>Random fat demon, whatever
2/10
Dark Souls:
>Random silly bull
2/10
Dark Souls 2:
I don't know, didn't play it. Also who cares.
0/10
Bloodborne:
>Meet child that is looking for her mother and father, gives you her musicbox.
>Find father, he's the boss
>Play musicbox child gave to you to weaken him
>He turns insto a werewolf, there's no going back now
>Kill him
>Find the dead body of his wife nearby
>Get mother's brooch
>Either give brooch to child and make her realise her parents are dead (she kills herself)
>Or tell her to go to a safe place and she gets killed by a giant pig on the way there (pic related)
PTSD levels 10/10
>>317998840
Chosen Undead had the hardest life.
The Hunter experienced the most fucked-up crazy shit; probably the most OP of them all too.
All souls games are good.
Yes, even Dark Souls 2.So I say, but I haven't even played Demon's Souls or Bloodborne.
>>318004504
>They have the other 3 and will get the fourth
>mad
>>318005771
I don't get it.
>>318007339
isn't the first boss of Dark Souls Asylum Demon? What do you mean "random silly bull"?
>>318007339
Shouldn't that be Cleric Beast?
>>318007498
sorry, forgot about that.
>silly fat demon
there, fixed it
ds2 is not canon
These niggers were more difficult than any boss in the entire series.
Good Hunter gets my vote
>>318007339
First boss of Bloodborne was Cleric Beast, and by extension the first boss was the shitty camera. Try again faggot.
>>318007358
I like you, anon.
>>318007142
You're an idiot.
All in all, slayer of demons had much more shit on his plate, the old one is a destroyer of worlds, possibly the most powerful being in all souls games.
Hell, if you take the evil ending in demon souls and fuse your soul with the old one, is heavily implied that you will devour all souls in the world.
Dark souls had gwyn and manus, but gwyn is a dying god, and you kill manus bitch ass really easy.
Dark souls 2 has nothing really world destroying tier, you are in truth fighting the fragments of manus most of the time.
In bloodborne you actullay become the next most powerful being in the planet in great one baby ending, but even so I dont think the good hunter is old one tier even in his great one baby form.
>>318007339
pff bloodborne is not the only game of the series with this kind of thing.
>>318007168
Dark Souls introduced multi phase bosses with O&S, Dark Souls 2 had several multi phase bosses, and end game bosses like Raime were fucking hard. Bloodborne gave every single boss multiple phases, sometimes even more than two, and has some of the hardest bosses of the franchise, like the defiled chalice bosses, and now the Laurence, Ludwig and Orphan of Kos.
People who played every single game won't be hit as hard by the difficulty curve though, thats why some people, to this day, claim that Demon's is the hardest.
>>318007470
Those pointy thing at the bottom of the ocean are the towers of the gothic buildings.
>>318007638
Their attacks are powerful. And their area of effects are huge.
But they are incredibly simple in their patterns. But their attacks doesn't mean anything if you can block them successfully. You don't need to try to roll. And you still have ample time to strike them even when blocking.
>>318007530
>>318007616
That's optional, I actually killed it after Gascoigne my first time playing the game, I completely missed it.
The Hunter fights the most dangerous. Chosen after that.
>>318007339
First boss of Dark Souls was Quelaag
First boss of Dark Souls 2 was Darklurker
or else you were playing it wrong
>>318007339
first boss was cleric beast a shitty copy of manus 1/10
>>318007615
she is the doll
can you see it?
>>318007690
the old one is not a destroyer of worlds. he is the creator.
In terms of the raw challenge, I'd say the chosen undead from the first DaS
In terms of dangerous though, the hunter by far. If I saw any of those bosses firsthand I'd shit my pants running
>>318002321
I love kosmposting
>>318007758
Now it makes sense.
>>318007339
The first boss in every one of those games is just some big demon/giant. Except in Bloodborne's case, it's the shitty fucking camera. I hate every single big boss in bloodborne because they make the camera go to shit and they always have some kind of retarded spaz the fuck out move where they slam their arms everywhere further causing the camera to go to shit. And no, playing unlocked doesn't make it good, it just makes it not completely shit.
>>318007339
Dark Souls 2 can be either a random elite soldier of the kingdom or the lord of the Giants who invaded said kingdom in the past, who rises from death in rage upon meeting the dude who defeated him in the past later.
>>318007330
I think we might be talking about two different things. I'm talking about the bosses themselves, not the gameplay ramifications they bring. 80% of Dark Souls 2 was humanoid with large two handed weapon.
The Armor Spider and the Penetrator were the only uninteresting bosses in DeS.
>>318007889
>she is the doll
>can you see it?
Maria was growing braintrusts in the clocktower
They were just regular bitches
>>318007881
>First boss of Dark Souls 2 was Darklurker
Holy shit, you can do that, can't you?
In SotFS too? Might want to try it out then.
>>318007736
Das2 was the hardest since it was my first souls game. I stayed at last giant for the first week of release making new characters trying to beat him. Even mage couldn't help me. I beat him when I learned i can roll under him instead of around. Still died 30+ with that knowledge.
>>318008020
The Pursuer can also be the first boss, can't he? Also fuck the Pursuer.
>>318007142
Saying a boss is easy or hard as if it's an objective thing is a really stupid thing to say, as many things(weapon, armor, roll speed, RNG, and luck) all come into play in these games. Most people get used to a certain playstyle during their first playthrough and forget that there even are others, so expecting them to immediately switch to a more appropriate one(or magically know what to change) is silly.
I've beaten 4kids on NG+ with very light armor and no shield and never found them to be even slightly as hard as many people say they are, but this attitude that so many people have gets fucking obnoxious and you know it. I wish people would just stop trying so hard to prove their superiority on an anonymous image board.Not really saying your post in particular is super obnoxious since there are worse ways to say it, but you get what I'm saying. It's just kind of a rant at this point.
>>317998840
Orphan of Kos is probably the toughest non bullshit enemy fromsoft have ever designed
>>318007837
No one is talking about their difficulty. You're a fucking idiot.
>>318008043
>80% of Dark Souls 2 was humanoid with large two handed weapon
as opposed to Tower Knight, Penetrator, False King Allant, King Allant, Old Monk, Old Hero and Garl Vinland?
>>318008118
Get SM to 1 million without killing any boss. Go to the areas where the Darkdiver is and then bam.
>>317999886
They're not even real. It's all a dream.
>>318008118
yeah but its kind of shitty
you have to grind 1 million souls
This is kind of a nice thread and it's only because there are two other sony shitting threads and two other pc getting bb shitposting threads.
Goes to show these are just dedicated shitposters that fuck up the fun for everyone else regardless of platform.
Grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Implant the eyes in our brains to cleanse our beastly idiocy.
>>318008068
same clothes
wood hand
>>318008124
>Still died 30+ with that knowledge.
Christ man you're shit
>>318007625
I'll be the first to admit that I like DaS2 a great deal despite it's flaws.
However one of the most egregious flaws I feel is not having several great characters you get emotionally invested in like Solaire and Siegmeyer, just to have them be ripped away or meet their end. I really wanted for Lucatiel's storyline to end in either Aslatiel killing her or her losing the very last iota of her sense of self and attack you all the while trying to remember who and what she is.
Also, there's no Gough equivalent in DaS2, which is shit because they could be a really good source of Giant lore and the like.
>>318008205
But thing is. To defeat them like you did, you actually need to be good at playing the game.
To defeat them like I did, you don't. You can be poor at the game and still defeat them successfully because there is almost no margin of error. It all hinges on having a good enough shield and or stamina to successfully block their attacks.
That's all I am really saying. And I am not really expecting people to just drop a playstyle to a completely new one they aren't familiar with. Or even figure out that this braindead strike and block strategy even works on them.
I am just saying that it works. It's incredibly effective. With very little margin of error.
Das2 vanilla was the easiest of souls games while das2 sotfs is the hardest and for the wrong reasons.
I get that they tries to salvage it, but c'mon man. Some encounters, especially in dlc are full retarded.
>>318008287
I am the only one that thinks the humanoid bosses in the souls games are the best ones?
Most of the "monster" bosses are retarded and easy to kill, or they rely on some bullshit gimmick to make the fight last longer.
>>318008287
from 16 bosses, 6 were humanoids.
>>318008020
DS2 can be...
Last Giant
Pursuer
Rat Vanguard
The Rotten
Dragon Rider
Dragon Slayer
Skorpiness Najka
Twin Dragonriders
Darklurker
>>318008413
I mean I was a pityful one but I did not give up. I wish I recorded my first playthrough so i can see my foolsih beginning,
I am much better now. I solled the ice cats from the dlc my first try and Fume on my third.
We have all come a long way
>>318008408
dude what the fuck is going on bloodborne anymore
how the fuck is the nightmare a thing ? who created it ? I know Gerhman is the one responsible for the dream alongside the moon presence.
>>318008287
>defending DaS2's bosses in any way, shape or form
Disgusting
Out with you.
>>318007530
>>318007616
>>318007889
>>318007998
Did you guys seriously not know Cleric Best is optional and can be beaten after Father Gascoigne?
Meaning Gascoigne is the first obligatory boss,
>>318008408
hwat
WHAT
>>318008680
>who created it ?
The nightmare host.
>>318002345
>solid 8/10
As opposed to liquid?
As opposed to gas?
As opposed to plasma?
As opposed to a Bose-Einstein condensate?
Get fucked.
>>318008552
Oh, I guess I skimmed your post and just kind of assumed you were being like that. I just wanted to let that out as it IS really annoying when people get like that.
I wanted to get SotFS before DaS3. But the DLC still isn't on sale, and it looks like it will never be.
And SotFS itself, without upgrading, is still going for $20 (which is still cheaper than the DLC for some ridiculous reason).
Is that as good as it's ever going to get? Or is there a chance of a better deal by winter?
I don't want to "upgrade". I don't want to lose my vanilla DaS2.
>>318008641
what's the ratio for DS2?
>>318008287
The Tower Knight is the size of a building.
I mentioned Penetrator by name as an uninteresting boss.
False King Allant flies around shooting blade beams like the Darklurker, and delevels your ass.
King Allant? Are you fucking high?
The Old Hero is blind and has to hunt for you.
Astraea is the boss, not Garl Vinland. You're an idiot for even bringing up this fight if you're trying to present it as evidence as uninspired boss design, as well.
Dark Souls 2 threw the same humanoid enemy with big weapon at you dozens of times because "Hey, people liked Artorias!"
>>318008606
>there'll never be a PS4 SS
>there'll never be another SS period
The way Sony handled that IP in the West was buttflusteringly retarded.
>>318008851
i dont know theres 200 bosses i dont care
>>318008408
yeah
but you literally see Maria growing braintrusts in the dlc
>>318008660
Not counting Asylum Demon, how many can DS1 be? I can think of
>Pinwheel
>Taurus
>Gargoyles
>Quelaag
>Sif
>>318008606
The humanoid bosses have always been more fun to fight. False King, Ornstein and Smough, Gwyn, Artorias, Velstadt, every single hunter from Bloodborne.
They're also usually the more challenging bosses when it's your first time fighting them.
