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Thoughts?
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>>317926027
sounds in voice and personality exactly like Tristana, but with the gun lines replaced by hammer lines

I quit league after what they did to Gangplank and Mordekaiser, changing their gameplay and personalities significantly for no good reason. Poppy's rework is no different to those 2: they took a decent established character, and rather than expanding on it, gutted her and replaced "tough girl" with "giggling cheerleader"

League of Legends is staffed by incompetents
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>>317926027
pure sex
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my mind says >>317926414 but my dick says >>317926494
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>>317926027
>we want final fantasy 14 audience

kill yourself
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I've never played an ASSFAGGOTS but she's cute
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>>317926560
Oh yeah the visual rework is actually amazing and a stellar example of what they should do when they do these things. The ability rework is okay.

but the new voiceover and new lore is fucking stupid. Naruto tier.

"xD she has a hammer she's carrying for a hero but she doesn't know she's the hero xD!" Sounds like Mary Sue fanfiction
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FANG
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Hopefully Taric is next.
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>>317926880
Explain this fang thing

Why is it so popular?
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>>317926027
Riots incompetent, see Morde rework vs this.
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>>317927096
Because it's cute! CUTE!
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>>317926414
Except Morde WAS trash after the rework except for his wacky ult and the exp gain from W, which they halved and he is now back to useless, even more so since he cant solo lane anymore.

Poppy rework seems stupidly good.
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>>317927187
Well, that's true I guess
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Overall bad. Traded the best ultimate in the game for one that literally gives the enemy a free recall.

Her porn was decent at best. Now it's going to be a little better
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>>317927736
>A little better

A lot better, you mean
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>>317926027
She's now an ugly rodent and probably has the same VA as Trist now because one VA needs to voice every furfuck character not to mention kit is probably fucked now. No true Poppy lover likes any of this shit.

Now waiting for Lulu to get Deviantart'd like the others. All they're missing are the diapers.
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>>317927926
>All they're missing are the diapers.
Im pretty sure those exist already
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>>317927886
You're right. Sorry
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>>317928012
Shortstacks are the best
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>>317928282
I hate shortstack proportions. Yordles are cute and fuckable though
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>>317928393
Actually I agree, some people take it too far and make them grotesque. I just like little women.
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>>317927228
>>317926414
I was a full time Morde main for about 2 and a half years prior to the rework.

In the patch directly for the rework, in terms of Ranked winrates, Mordekaiser had a 50% winrate in all ELOs. He was a balanced champion. He could be played and be somewhat useful in every role bar support and jungle [although longer time Morde mains than me have jungled him]. He was one of the most team-independent champs in the game: If your team is feeding, a good Mordekaiser takes advantage of this by killing the most fed player and using their ghost to bring about a victory.

After the rework he became the second most consistently banned champion after Skarner, was restricted almost entirely to the ADC role, and became fully dependent on the skill of his teammates to catch targets, while needing a support to function properly.

and that's when I quit League of Legends. Blatantly stupid and counterproductive decisions like that. Right after they turned Gangplank into a giant edgelord.
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>>317926027
She looks cute, She sounds cute. but thats not how I wanted my poppy to turn out.
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>>317928890
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>>317926027
So they removed Tristana first and then made not-Tristana from other character. R for Retarded.
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>>317928890
Now it would be nice to see how many times morde got played, compared to other champions, otherwise those 50% winrate means nothing.

> If your team is feeding, a good Mordekaiser takes advantage of this by killing the most fed player and using their ghost to bring about a victory.
Except now it was way harder, due to all the cheap MR items and ADCs in general having to many dashes and mobility, not to mention melee champions were useless as ghost and AP characters only midly better.

>Right after they turned Gangplank into a giant edgelord.
But he is somewhat useful now late game.
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>>317928890
>Into a giant edgelordd
You mean into an actual fucking pirate?
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Her voice is so similar to Tristana they had to make Poppy blonde so people wouldnt confuse the two.
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>>317928890
>>317926414
GP rework was miles better than his original design.
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>>317926027
who else is getting a visual revamp?
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>>317926027
They are finally making her cute? Hopefully she doesn't have a dyke voice.
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>>317928890
>gangplank becomes viable at the cost of his jolly demeanor

deepest lore
yo ho ho and a bottle of
RUM
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>>317929434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiy2XCdHaeE
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>>317929434
She has Tristanas voice actress who decided that sounding exactly like new Tristana was the correct voice to use.

and all her lines are exactly the same as Tristanas lines except with the word hammer replacing gun and explosions
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>>317929380
Taric, the truly, TRULY outrageous paladin of the gems
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>>>/lolg/
Fuck off lol babbies
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>>317929558
>>317929581
I'm okay with this, much better sounding than her old voice.
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>>317929581
You do know that the voice director is in charge of how the VA should perform, right?
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>>317929754
Are you ready for Taric the gruff paladin that sounds exactly like Garen and is not fabulous in any way? The only gem he will have is a single gem on his steel warhammer and it will be red to show how angry his soul is.
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>>317929581
But that's wrong
She has Jinx's voice actress
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>>317929558
>Woah you're a big fellow
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>>317929280
>"Neither the flames nor the depths could claim me."
>"Their tears will salt the ocean."
>"Their bodies will choke the abyss."
>"My heart is iron."
>"I found my hate in the fire."
>"I lost my ship, but not my soul."
> "I am reborn of salt and brine."
> "A slit throat is too painless."
>"A reckoning approaches."

Yeah? That's how "actual fucking pirates" talk, is it? Face it, they made GP into a huge edgelord. The majority of the lines also suffer from exactly the same delivery too, where he starts up high and then trails off.

>>317929358
The model rework went from a great looking model to a Neanderthal with giant hands, and then later on into an even grosser looking fat thing which looks more like Sion than what he originally looked like. If they were going to pull such a drastic series of changes, they should have given us a Traditional skin.

Character wise, they went from a one-dimensional jolly pirate stereotype to a one-dimensional grimdark pirate stereotype. Considering the proliferation of super serious men in League, I far preferred the latter.
>>317929184
>But he is somewhat useful now late game.
Oh yeah that's certainly true. All I'm upset about is the visual and voice rework.

The one thing I wanted from the rework was for his cannonball barrage to feel like your enemies were actually being hit by cannon, and they didn't do that except when you reach lategame. But the barrel mechanic is cool.
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>>317929796
>>317929796
in /lolg/ all they do is spam "mai waifu is this" "x needs more porn" "xrd for 'z character' a shit"
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>>317926027
>Thoughts?

Could be worse. A LOT worse.
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>>317929992
THAT'S NOT MY KING
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>>317926027
She is cute but her new kit is shit

They changed fundamentaly nothing, just removed her good parts and put gimmicks in.

Instead of gaining an armor steroid for early jungling, you get a shitty buckler that flies somewhere, you waste time catching it every 15 seconds and gain a shitty shield.

Instead of being able to dive towers or focus on the carry with her ult, "you can now send people across the map xD". Why?

When it comes to actual practical things, like ganking, he's exactly the same, except worse. You still only have the semi-gimmicky E as a form of ganking. Except now your Q doesn't guarantee damage. They need to turn EVERYthing into a skillshot nowadays, even auto-attack enchantments.

Why does a mobile melee champion have a 2 part ground explosion ability with no range or area that everyone who isn't stunned always easily dodges?

It's a good attack for Vel'Koz because he more easily stuns you and can use that 2-explosion attack to zone you out of something or to put you into a position to take his Q in the face. What advantage is there for Poppy to have her Q get a delayed 2 explosion? None.

I hate her remake. Her gameplay is exactly the same. Her Q is much, much, much shitter especially in hectic teambattles or any chase. Her armor steroid and her damage blocking passive transformed into a gimmicky useless 15% shield mechanic that you'll almost never get in hectic teambattles or chases. Her E and R diving combo is gone. R combos with NOTHING
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Nerf new poppy before release plz.
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>>317929992
>the most popular cosmetics are the ones that cover up his face

Good job Valve.
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>>317929964
>All I'm upset about is the visual and voice rework.
I can understand that, especially the arm they removed.
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>>317929908
i'm not
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>>317929908
You mean bloodstone taric?
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>>317929908
please no

I mean, I almost never play anymore because Riot Tencent is one of the worst companies out there, but Taric is like the Bob Ross of League of Legends

>>317930365
not him but that's just a skin, not the default and canon character

skins are usually noncanon or lolipoppy wouldn't exist
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>>317929992
F
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>>317929964
Not that guy, not even entirely sure what game this about, I live too hardcore a life to actually read thread topic headers.

Those lines are low-rate Ed thatch "Blackbeard" and pirates and privateers could be argued as being the modern origin of edge, since being a scary/batshit insane motherfucker was essentially the only way to keep your essentially mostly shanghaied and underpaid/not paid at all crew in some fucking order between the months of starvation and brief moment of glory.

Certainly not a "golden era" pirate since this was essentially a formative period in which most pirates were actually privateers or got to live off fat Ducat bucks, but in the leaner later years most pirates deliberately garnered edgy-as-fuck reputations in order to help secure better and easier returns on piracy and to keep men in line.

There too is an aspect of seeing galley capture warfare coming into its prime. When you think of naval combat you would generally imagine ships being sank en masse, the truth is that actually great efforts were made to capture a ship with cargo intact. Most privateers were kitted out with lots of anti-infantry weaponry in order to shed enemy numbers (often decks stacked with soldiers just to stop exactly this shit) enough to force them to surrender and steer their ship into friendly poors for scuppering and sale of cargo, and/or reuse of their vessel.

TL;DR Yes pirates in the later era were edgemeisters.

Source: my mum was a pirate
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>>317926414
WAIT THEY REPLACED HER PERSONALITY!?

SHE WAS LIKE THE ONLY SERIOUS YORDLE FUUUUUUUUU
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>>317929979
that's pretty much all the generals.
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>>317930447
DON'T YOU GET IT INSTEAD OF A INDEPENDENT YORDLE FEMALE THAT NEEDS NO MEN, SHE'S A YORDLE THAT NEEDS TO FINDS AN INDEPENDENT MAN TO WIELD HER HAMMER plus shitting on galio's relation to her lorewise
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1: She's still a qt3.14
2: New ult looks like pure retarded fun

Those are the only ups. Her old kit was fucking fine, she just needed a VU.

They're going to gut Urgot and im going to be mad.
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>>317929184
It says right there, 2.84% pickrate.

Considering some champions like Thresh had a 40% pickrate at that exact same time helps explain the low role picking. People picked the 10 or so clearly overpowered champs like Jinx in the majority of their ranked matches [who has never been below top 3 ADCs since her release], driving down the popularity of balanced champs.
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>>317929358
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>>317929964
>more like Sion than what he originally looked like.

Oh fuck! now we know what happened with Sion's hextech skin
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Is it true in LoL you need to grind for each hero?
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Her voice couldn't be worse. Her old voice was a bit shit, but at least it was angry and strong and powerful. It had some sort of strength to it. Her new voice is just shitty kawaii Tristana 2.0 and I fucking hate it.
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>Update Mordekaiser
>He's much stronger but gets his title changed and drops the whole heavy metal joke schtick, instead being generic metal faggot

>update Poppy
>Change her kit and make her visuals much better but neuter her personality and make her generic action girl instead of the comedic straight man

>Update Miss Fortune
>change nothing about her terrible design or personality and leave her as a giant cringy stripper joke

why
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>>317929992
I am still fucking mad, ghost are the fucking worst
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I guess its cool but I wish Riot would try to keep the quality of their game consistent. I've pretty much stopped playing League and MOBAs all together recently because they are painfully dull now and draining to me, but when they dropped the lore all together I was pretty disappointed in how they kinda just... did it. They are re-working a lot of together but it still feels pretty half-baked, and thats super evident with Poppy because she's just a huge change in character.
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>>317930441
No anon, I understand that threats of violence in your speech were perfectly normal among pirates to keep crews in line and I've read a fair bit of pirate literature, but an "actual fucking pirate" wanting to threaten his crew into line wouldn't be that fucking verbose and flowery in his language. It would be more along the lines of "Get in gear or I'll rip out yer fucking throats".

All those lines sound like poetry written by a high school emo cutting himself with a razor blade and thus do not fit the character's tone.

Plus, the absolute personality shift from a beloved character was completely pointless.
They could have just expanded upon it.

To give you some context on how really edgy he is in the lore, he "draws deeply intricate bone carvings into live, awake captives as a work of art" and spends hours in the lore pontificating on how bone carving is a lost art. Before they did this 180 degree turn, he was just a jolly pirate who was searching for fame and fortune.
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>>317930997
If I could revert the Mordekaiser rework, I would in a second

The most painful part by far was they took his maces smashing out of the ground like in pic, now it's just another generic "darkness" attack you would see in any anime or cartoon
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>>317931101
Well, he was always ruthless and psychotic, remember he murdered his own father to seize power. But he was cheerful and jolly, more Long John Silver, than the William Teach he is now.
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>>317930997
because this is the target audience
+ gamer gurls and cosplayers
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>>317931101
That is pretty edgy, do they refer to the bonecrafting as scrimshawing? They'd fucking better.
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>>317931243
Yeah exactly, a Joker sort of character. Now there's nothing fun about him because they went for edgy gray grimdark.

And visually they actually made him look like a cross between Aatrox and Kunkka. They said the rework was to make him "more iconic to League", but then they just ended up turning him into a dotard character.
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>>317931398
Yep.

Here's what he looks like now, compared to his pre rework look which can be seen here. >>317931406
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Honestly nothing they do can be worse than what they did to Trundle.
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>>317931606
And this:
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>>317931653
I actually liked Trundle. Sure they made him a villain, but EH. His plot was dumb anyway.
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>>317931101
>>317931398
Having living bone would be incredibly irritating to work with, you want to bleach and dry that shit before you carve. Instead you got niggers wiggling around and bleeding all over your lines and it's like fjaksdjjhfjkasd
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>>317931653
but atleast trundle still had a traditional skin....they stopped doing that because they weren't getting enough money from it since all the character mains would just get a free skin and no one would buy the old skin
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>>317931761
I would buy Sejuanis old skin if it was for sale
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Wtf did they do to poppy?
Is SF she a damn loli now? WTF
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>>317929992
Who the fuck is that?
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>>317931908
Burger King from Distribution Of The Apples
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>>317931862
I have the old one and end up laughing everytime someone plays with the new classic one, its so ugly
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>>317926027
I want to stroke her fluffy ears and hear her giggle
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>>317931871
Not a loli, a shortstack. There's an important difference.
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>>317928890
morde used to be my go to hero as well. i quit playing once i got into dota beta though. came back to give lel a whirl to find morde completely fucking ruined. what a joke. honestly though the entire game is a huge fucking joke these days. so much health percentage damage, pure damage bullshit and the dashes and blinks. it's like all my old favorite heroes are so completely fucking outclassed these days and the balance in lel has gone so completely haywire.
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>>317931908
>Who the fuck is that?

Ghost king of croissants from Dota.
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>>317931759
Oh yeah, and you'd have to leave it like a month anyway. Yeah okay he's retarded my bad anon.
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>>317927096
Originally? Because 11s like fucked up teeth.

>>317926027
Please don't fuck it up. Playing champs like her on aram is the only fun there is to the game.
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>>317929992
Cheap knock off
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>>317929908
Nah. If they ever rework him, they'll completely overdo the flamboyance. They just don't grasp what made parts of their game good back then. Then again, their average player is what, 13 years old? Dumbing down and overdoing characters is what works on them.
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>>317926027
muscle short turned into a loli? WOW good job kojima!
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I will miss her super serious personality. But I guess it makes sense. Yordles should be happy little guys (except veigar of course)

Mordekaiser rework was eh. Didnt think he needed it at all, along with Fiora.
I can get why people are mad about reworks. I used to main old Karma because I loved her stupid design. Every skill had a dual effect and she was wearing a fucking dress along with ugly hairstyle, and that was fun.
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>>317932929
>Blizzard hadn't officially threatened for copyright
>Valve changes their sweet boner king into a ghost of his former self
makes me sad every time I think about it
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I quit rather recently.
>riot thinks adcs are too same-y
>gimps them all to high hell so now there are only 2 good ones people play
>the most unique adcs are forgotten or get terrible "buffs" compared to everyone else
>you now need to pick 1 of the 2 good adcs to not be completely redundant until lategame

I've tried to keep with him from the beginning, but I can't anymore.
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>>317930946
Well you need to play the game to unlock more heroes. It's actually one of the things that works quite well.
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>>317933635
been playing twitch a lot. Hes in a pretty good spot.
build him AD/crit immediately, dont go for shitty BOTRK
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>>317929964
It also doesnt make sense that the IS a total edgelord and his gameplay mechanics its the fucking barrels that forçe you to bait someone and run away while spamming E in a 1 v1 combat. Imo, just doesnt fit.
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>>317926027
I now have no desire to play her anymore whatsoever after her piece of shit rework. Thanks a lot Riot, you fucking assholes.

RIP Poppy.
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>>317926414
I honestly think that Ironstylus is the most cringeworthy person working at Riot. He's really, really pathetic.
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>Riot has reworked almost every single champion whose gameplay I liked.
>The ones they didn't rework they nerfed until they were terrible.
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>>317934486
I'm more annoyed with new champs having 10000 dashes. Positioning used to be an important part of the game.
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>>317934106
I like new poppy more. Eat shit faglord.
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Her voice sounds exactly like Tristana's. The difference in her personality and background is lost just like that.
I will never understand this change.
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>>317934873
Poppy's new W fucks with dashes. I love it.
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>>317931664
That one still had his old charm.
He looks less rugged, but still not full-on vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=113u9CjoKgw
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>>317931653
Trundle was at least somewhat unique in his design (in the game, that is), and they turned him into another ice magic faggot
I like how he looks now, mind you, but they just turn the old champs into bland oversaturated shit
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>>317933635
>gimps them all to high hell so now there are only 2 good ones people play
This is exactly the opposite of what actually happened.
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>>317926414
is that guy on the left the former WoW lead dev? why would he keep that name when going to a different company? I don't get it
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>>317935059
About fucking time they added some way to counter dashes, considering everyone and their grandma gets them.
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>>317926027
just commenting on mechanics and her move set:

she was one of the worst bruisers in the game, new kit doesn't seem like it will help much in that regard

her new ult, however, will literally be the best teamfight ult in the game once people start to master it, I expect top players cause it to get nerfed hard within a week or two, in its current state its just straight up broken, and the nature of its function will break other peoples' teamfight ults

Riot proves once again they have no fucking clue what they're doing
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>>317929964
>GP gets turned from a hammy pirate into some edgemaster
>Sion gets turned from an amusing undead barbarian with an Arnold accent to a super edgemaster
>Trundle changed from an interesting character and concept to something really bland and generic

Im glad I dont play this game anymore, so I wont have to see what they do to my poor yorick
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So, Urgot is fucked right?
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>>317935648
>characters get changed from childish caricatures with ten voiced lines each to mature, well-developed characters with backstory, goals and motivations
I fail to see the problem. The only "rework" people could have a legitimate gripe with was Trundle.
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>>317935648
I can't even imagine why they would need to rework yorick.
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>>317935873
Because he's shitty and terribly designed? Especially his ult
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>>317935639
>Riot proves they have no fucking clue what they're doing
You don't actually believe this, so why even say it? You're still playing their game so they must be doing something right, you're just being a contrarian shite acting like he knows better, yet refuses to put his money where his mouth is.

The point here, is stop being a fucking shite and stop playing garbage like LoL when you don't even believe it's good, or stop being a contrarian shite and just accept that you do think it's good.

God damn retarded children like you are fucking pathetic.
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>>317935802
>>characters get changed from childish caricatures with ten voiced lines each to "mature", "well-developed" characters with "backstory", "goals and motivations"

I know youre baiting but you got me anyway, you did good anon
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>>317936037
Which part of that is incorrect?
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>>317935802
It's a video game anon. You can't get on your high horse about maturity in a *game* made for children.

GP's writing and voice acting is terrible, anyway. Absolute Coldsteel tier trash. Sion's gone from an Arnie caricature to just yelling all the time about killing, although it was an improvement in that area because he really did feel like just a joke. In both cases they didn't really add anything they couldn't have done while still keeping the original personality of the character intact.

It's an ego-driven thing, the lore writers replacing the fun old stuff with their super serious OC.
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>>317927926
>probably has the same VA as Trist
Actually, she now has the same VA as Jinx.
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>>317936105
>GP's writing and voice acting is terrible, anyway
Objectively better than it used to be. Trying to argue otherwise just makes you come off as a nostalgic idiot. Old GP's VA was routinely spammed in DotA vs LoL threads for being a prime example of the absolute dogshit tier lore and writing in LoL.

Both Sion and GP are more coherent and fleshed out characters than they were previously, both in terms of lore and in terms of gameplay.
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>>317935923
holy fuck you're mad as shit, kid, wow

I don't constantly play LoL, I play maybe a game a week, poppy was one of my favorite champs a long time ago, when I saw she was getting a rework I looked up the new moveset out of curiosity and happened by this thread so I figured I owed it to the fond memories of playing her 4 years ago to chime in

calm the fuck down, you fucking autistic sperg
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>>317935648
they are going to make all his abilities icons like like light blue generic ghost shit

They will make his lines generic and edgy but now they will just had a Karthus filter and call it a day.

They turned Karthus from Skeletor into some generic ghost shit and did the same to Morde's abilities icons.
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>>317936076
that's like your opinion man, an opinion cant be correct or false
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>>317926027
Waifu/10
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>>317936602
It can be invalid
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>>317935802
Except that they already had those "backstory, goals and motivations"

And the only "mature" thing about it is that they are yelling about MUH DEATH and MUH REVENGE all the time.

Fuck, with Poppy they went the opposite way, from a strong and determined girl with a mission to a teehee teenager. So much for "mature"

No, they're REMOVING the "mature" characters and change them into shitty edgy teenagers for most of the part.
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>>317926027
Boy I cant wait for bandlebro to make porn of this.

Boogie have gotten so srale with his sameface shit.
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>>317926842
better than "lol her mum died to bandits so she delivered the hammer to someone by herself, so that dude made her a high rank in his army so she can use the hammer he ordered but didnt want"
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Porn when
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>>317936741
Mature in the context of storytelling means developed, not old. Stop being a fucking idiot please.
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Reading this thread is cancerous, is everyone in here bronze?
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>>317936272
>Old GP's VA was routinely spammed in DotA vs LoL threads for being a prime example of the absolute dogshit tier lore and writing in LoL.
Who cares for dota fags think? Shit was golden example of good cheese.

Then again, these are the same people that took away Garen's dance and Nasus's voice.
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>>317936923
but the new designs aren't developed either
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>>317936923
>Stop being a fucking idiot please.
You're the one using the word "mature" in the context of storytelling here senpai
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>>317926027
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>>317937021
In fact, they changed a whole bunch of lores to be like 3 lines of text.

But yeah, Skarner sure has a "mature" "well-developed" backstory.
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>>317937032
Is this the first time you've heard the word outside of your parents commenting on your tantrums?
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>>317928970
Oh my God, I was wrong.
It was Earth all along.
You've finally made a monkey.
Yes, we've finally made a monkey.
Yes, you've finally made a monkey out of me.
Yes, we've finally made a monkey out of you.
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LOL
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>>317937103
I LOVE YOU DR ZAIUS
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>>317937042

Yea, this.

In the end, we men won. Let the fags cry.
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>>317926842
I think you fail to realize that the naruto-tier lore for Poppy fits a yordle quite well. I mean yordles are supposed to be campy and whimsical as a race, which is why people like most of them in the first place. I think it's poetic to be searching for a hero to give a weapon you're carrying around, but in the journey, you learn to use the weapon so well you might as well become the hero yourself.
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I stopped playing LoL after I got to plat II and the game started getting hard.
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>>317937272

>Jokes? I don't have any jokes.
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>>317935748
Urgot is beautiful. The update to his ult helps a ton. It does % damage reduction instead of arm/Mr. My favorite goofy build is urgot jungle
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>>317936868
Any idea where I can find his stuff?
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>>317937042
That's pretty cute
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>>317937363
>Urgot jungle

My eyes are tearing up and my smile is from ear to ear anon, what kind of sick but fun as fuck thing have you uncovered you sick litlle fiend
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>>317929581
>She has Tristanas voice actress
You talking out of your ass faggot.
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So, about that Warwick rework and update
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>>317936410
If this is all you have to say then why the fuck did you even bother posting retard?

Spend your time doing something more useful, like killing yourself.

>u-u-u m-mad b-bro?
>h-heh, I s-sure t-told him!
Pathetic.
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>>317933635
And what are the two good ADCs right now? because Vayne, Graves, Caitlyn, Lucian and Ezreal are all perfectly fine to play.
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>>317937659
You both look like fucking retards. Congrats, faglords.
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>>317929992
>noone cares about hero
>they turn him into a radioactive giantdad
>suddenly a fucking tsunami of negative feedback
It's like when you take away a toy from a baby it never played with and the baby starts crying. Glad at least Valve had enough balls to not change him back.
You faggots are the worst, fuck you, you deserved it.
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>>317937897
Man, fuck you. Bonerking was fine.
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>>317937697
Corki is fine to play as well. He can kill people so easily plus it's hard to itemize for him since he does all mix damage. Plus every 4-5 minutes you get a rumble ult.
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>>317926027
muh/dick
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I'm running out of fun champs with unknown power levels. I finally found a new main in top Taric after the Sion rework but every new rework makes me more nervous. I running out of "ugly" "underpowered" champs to completely surprise and wreck the enemy team with.
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>>317938024
Jinx and Twitch are alright too, I dont know what the fuck was that guy on to.
Graves is a total beast right now tho, that 120 armor/magic res out of fucking nowhere, I soloed a Shyvana and a Yaoi both full build yesterday with him, its hilarious how they run at you while you kite them and build e stacks and when they reach you they are half hp and you are already in tank mode and become unukeable, Lissandra using her combo on Graves, ult included and graves is just at 50% hp and ready to two-shoot her.
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>>317936272
>Objectively better than it used to be

Not from a voice acting standpoint. Every voice line sounds like the last; the exact same delivery; so it's like hearing the same 1 line every time. GP's original lines all sounded different, and they should have rehired the guy who did them.

Character wise, GP was already pretty fleshed out in the JoJ.
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>>317936923
Mature doesn't mean 100% dead serious all the time. You'll get this once your age no longer begins with a 1, maybe later.
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>>317937042
New artwork looks good. Less furry ears would be nice though.
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>>317929442
>arcade gankplank
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>>317926027
Its better.
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>>317937272
Poppy was an exception, which was something people liked about her. Now she sounds EXACTLY like Tristana
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>playing league
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>>317926027
Fucking adorable
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>>317937363
>>317937476
I don't get it
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>>317938756
my sides
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>>317937897
fuck you dude skeleton king was a great hero and he had his fans

no one cared about him? absolute bullshit
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I really like it, only thing I'd change is the passive.
Riot should stop implementing minigames / gimmics whereever they can
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>>317926027
Don't Poppy that floppy!
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>>317937897
no one cares about you either so you better just kill youre self.
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>>317926027
Poppy is cute!
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>>317938985
No, he was a fairly underpicked and overlooked hero.
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>>317937897
>>noone cares about hero
Because his stale as fuck gameplay was the problem, not his visuals. Now he looks AND plays boring
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>>317939375
>implying skeleton with a sword was an interesting design
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>>317939715
>implying an arbitrary change to a ghost was any more interesting
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>>317926027
why did they make my hardened demacian warrior into a blue waifu
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>>317939872
Because blue waifus are far more popular.
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>>317939845
Ghost characters in vidya are usually casters or spies/dexfags. A ghost str character is more unusuall than a skeleton str character, so yes, it is a more unique concept. Not by a huge margin, but it is.
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>>317939872
She was never a demacian. She was like her title implied she is an ambassador of Bandle City to bridge over the yordles to demacia.
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>>317940190
It's not so amazing to warrant the change, and it made him end up just looking like an aqua blob from above. I'm quite surprised you support the decision.
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>every champion gets an edgy backstory
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>>317940578
It's jarring when Rammus' (now probably former) backstory sounds good by comparison.
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>>317938756
>mfw New Gankplank is a huge EDGELORD Kunnka
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/da/Kunk_respawn_01.mp3
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>a genuine LoL discussion thread on /v/

What the fuck is happening?
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>>317926027

CUTE
U
T
E

I look forward to the dozens of dirty doujins that come from this.
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>>317926027

REMINDER THAT ILLAOI LITERALLY GOT OVERSHADOWED BY THIS

UNDENIABLE PROOF THAT CUTE AND SEXY SELLS BETTER THAN MUSCLE BOUND SHE HULK

TUMBLRINAS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>317926414
>let's change the meta again
>meta never changes, just what meme jungle item is FotM
wow
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>>317935802
you're underage. That's the problem.

When you're growing up, you obsess with the future and being an adult, but when you're an adult, reminiscing and basking in childishness is a thing you do when you have confidence in who you are.

TL/DR: "childish" is a buzzword thrown around by inconfident people.
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>>317941045
And which solo laners absolutely demolish their opposition.
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>>317940547
I support this decision mainly to spite fags who never actually played or cared about the hero but became really outraged when the change has been made. I think this is hypocritical and deserves to be ridiculed. Can understand the people who actually mained him though. I mean, you could say that I'm just a bitter contrarian, but at this point it's basically memespouting, "RETURN THE KING NEVER FORGET" etc. etc.
Both of the designs are fairly meh in my opinion, but the second one at least looks more original.
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Yeah but what does her in game model look like?
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Reasons why LoL sucks

>static meta
>baffling balance changes and reworks
>nonsensical reporting/banning system
>ranked system designed to keep you playing a lot of games constantly
>most cancerous community besides /v/

There's no reason whatsoever to play LoL.
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>>317940974
>This
and the fact Illaoi is a peice of shit character and Poppy has been secretly really OP since Season 1
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>>317941149
Both you and the people who never played him are shitheads, anon. At least you somewhat realise it though
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>tfw they fuck up your favorite champion
I-I just wanted c-cast time removed
Not this, not is...
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>>317941335
RIP GP, anon

this plus morde made me quit [tb honest]
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>>317941492
gp made me quit tbqh
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>>317941262
>There's no reason whatsoever to play LoL.

There's no reason to play a game like Dota either, if that's what you're implying.
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>>317941262
>>static meta
Wrong
>>baffling balance changes and reworks
Which is fun
>>nonsensical reporting/banning system
Which works pretty damn well
>>ranked system designed to keep you playing a lot of games constantly
Welcome to every ranked system for 5man teams, if you have a better solution go at it
>>most cancerous community besides /v/
Maybe

All in all 6/10 I got baited into replying.

By the way I havent played the game in over two years
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>>317941608

>doesn't play game
>is expert of game that he doesn't play

You are the living incarnation of /v/
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>>317941262
>static meta
Who cares about the meta?
>nonsensical reporting/banning system
Not really. "Talk shit, get hit" still applies like it does everywhere else.
>most cancerous community besides /v/
The whole genre has an equal share of the cancer.
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>>317941262
I can think of like 5 reasons
Darius
Tryndamere
Wukong
Mordekaiser
Yorick
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>>317941262
>>static meta
Stopped reading.
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>>317937897
People like Skeleton King, he was simply a bad hero (until they have him active Mortal Strike).

His redesign was bad and his re-recorded voice was also massively inferior.

I mean we went from
>"Death... my old friend"
to
>"Death is my bitch!"

So no wonder you prefer it.
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>>317941672
The shitposting for the game hasn't changed in more than two years though, and it mostly comes from people who have never played the game.

Stopped actively playing the game a long while ago, but I still like to follow its development since I feel it's a considerable influence over the market and it is an interesting case.

If he had commented on recent balance changes I'd probably have refrained from replying, but when the first point is literally "static meta" I already know it's retarded bullshit
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>>317936962
You understand that the voice actor for mass died right?
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>lol meta isn't static
>1-1-1-2 for 3 almost 4 years now
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>>317926027
LoL is killing video games yes?
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>>317942106
In Low ELO maybe, wouldnt expect a DotA2 player to get any further than that.
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>>317941962
>meta isn't static
>same roles since forever
>heroes are released based on these roles

item builds are not a fucking meta
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>>317941262
>There's no reason whatsoever to play LoL.
Wrong. Getting a few people together and playing a game of aram while having a chat is comfy.
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>>317942231
>item builds are not a fucking meta
Says who?
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>>317942220
the reason why dota players don't bother with this trash is that the barrier to entry is unreal. you have to grind or pay at least a couple hundred to be competitive. what's the point when you could just be playing a superior game? dota players have nothing to prove against lel babbies
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>>317942220
>implying i'm not dia
>implying i'm not done with this game because of what they did with GP
it was the last drop
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>>317935385

He used that handle even before he joined Blizzard, back when he was making Age of empire mods.
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>>317942028
I don't understand why they had to change it because he died. That's not usually a clause in people's contracts and people usually like that to keep existing as part of their legacy.

But whatever.
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>>317942427
>the reason why dota players don't bother with this trash is that the barrier to entry is unreal.
If you cant carry with 450/1350 IP champs you're a fucking scrub. Tristana is high in the meta right now and she's free, Garen after rework is one of the better top laners and also free, and Alistar has always been godlike and the new masteries give him retarded support ability, also free.

Yi, Kayle, Annie and Ryze are 450 and still considered op and broken if you have the slightest bit of skill.
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>>317941923
well, that line in specific fits the lore, since he went from a dead skeleton to an undead Wraith, and finally overcame death, kinda. The skeleton puns were cooler, tough.
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With how hard riot tries to pander i'm surprised it took them so long to add a furbait champion.
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>>317942427
>the reason why dota players don't bother with this trash is that the barrier to entry is unreal. you have to grind or pay at least a couple hundred to be competitive. what's the point when you could just be playing a superior game? dota players have nothing to prove against lel babbies

Barrier of entry is even higher in Dota, but for a different reason.
The fact that a vast majority of of the Dota playerbase can't even play the game on a basic level yet continue to be incredibly elitist is staggering.
There isn't even a point in getting good either since you'll never get well-balanced matches. You can't even play it more casually either since everyone takes the game seriously, even in unranked. So unless you like to play some shitty custom maps why even bother to install Dota?
I say this as someone with 3700 hours played and I regret every single minute of it.
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>>317942220
what? In competitive, the most creative the teams get is lane switching. Anything beyond that, Riot nerfs in the next patch, because it's breaking their precious meta.
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>>317926027
Reworks = Excuses for stealth nerfs.
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>>317942231
>>meta isn't static
>>same roles since forever
>>heroes are released based on these roles

>item builds are not a fucking meta

First, im sorry to inform you that item builds are in fact part of the metagame, you might want to look up the definition.

Second, it's not the only thing that changes in the meta, for some very obvious meta changes through the history you might want to look at how alistar or nautilus have been played in every lane and the jungle depending on the patch or how midlaners have turned into supports or toplaners.

Then we have matters of tempo and strats, which obviously also change through time.

Then we have how people play specific champions, which also changes over time.
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>>317942770
Alistar and Rengar don't count?
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>>317926027
Riot is fucking awful at gameplay, but amazing at making characters people will latch onto and become "fans" of.

Anyone with actual taste just cringes at their shit though.
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>>317942427
>dota players have nothing to prove against lel babbies

This must be why we have gotten 4 years of dotards trying to prove their game is better lmao
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>>317942725
>well, that line in specific fits the lore, since he went from a dead skeleton to an undead Wraith, and finally overcame death, kinda. The skeleton puns were cooler, tough.

The delivery and lines were better in the Skeleton King iteration.
Many of his new lines sounds like something the twitch chat came up with.
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>>317942965
Don't forget Nasus, Rekenton, Azir, and Anivia,
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>>317942571
But she would've been fine without the booster seat, considering how tall the chair seems to be.
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>>317942782
As a former League player with over 1000 games this is such bullshit. Dota has a way higher barrier of entry, and to get to a decent level in Dota it takes way more brain, practice and skill. If you played over 100 games in both of those you would realize how much bullshit this post is, and you're a riot shilltard.
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>>317942220
Good thing Dota 2 is literally dying.

Wont have to listen to you in a few years time when there are only 100k players.
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>>317943252
>As a former League player with over 1000 games this is such bullshit. Dota has a way higher barrier of entry, and to get to a decent level in Dota it takes way more brain, practice and skill. If you played over 100 games in both of those you would realize how much bullshit this post is, and you're a riot shilltard.

You seem to be exceptionally illiterate.
Try re-reading what I said.
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>>317943369
I find it funny how if Valve wasn't pumping millions of pot money into the game, DotA2 would basically be dead.
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>>317942719
>high in the meta right now

here we go again with this meta shit. lel doesn't have a meta at this point and hasn't had one in six years. how many times are we going to go over this, neo /v/?
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>>317943378
And you never played Dota. That's obvious. Most people don't take the game seriously,even in ranked. I climbed to 5k and I still get people picking shit heroes and just doing general pub stuff. No one in unranked cares for strategy, winning, etc. they just play for fun. But I digress, go suck some Riot cock shill.
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I get that urge to play League every now and again with the boys. My old main got perma'd so it's kinda hard to pick the game back up again.

Dota spoils the hell out of you. Why would I even want to touch something I have to grind my ass off for? Runes and masteries? A hero pool that is more than 5?

I'd rather just play Dota, honestly.
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>>317942782
>>317943252
i can see why the barrier to entry in dota seems a lot higher for dumb fucking lelbabbies. you actually have to learn shit instead of artificial barriers like in lel. it comes naturally in dota. it's a grind in lel.
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>>317929184
I used to play LoL all the time, morde was rape mode for a while. He was popular around when renekton came out I think.

Then they nerfed the shit out of his shield and he didn't get played much anymore
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>>317932312
I did exactly the same. As soon as i got Dota 2 beta key i dropped League. Came back to try and play my boy Olaf again and he was shit tier
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>>317943476
>I find it funny how if Valve wasn't pumping millions of pot money into the game, DotA2 would basically be dead.
Except its not valve, its the valvedrones buying cosmetics and whatever the international books are called. Valve puts in less than Riot puts in, but with the book it gets as high as it does.
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>>317943710
Riot has the gift to ruin champions with nerfs (and "reworks").
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>>317937659
You think your post is any better?
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>>317943579
>And you never played Dota. That's obvious.

Sure.

>Most people don't take the game seriously,even in ranked.

Maybe you should stop lying. It was pretty common for people to rage even at the picking stage in ranked. I'm not talking 2k mmr here, but 4-5k mmr players since those are the players I was matched with.

Also like I said, you're an illiterate idiot that didn't even understand my post you initially replied to. I said that Dota 2 has an even higher barrier of entry and that the game is too complicated for most of the people that play it.
It really doesn't help that Valve doesn't even try to help teach people the game properly.

I did not praise LoL in any way in my post, but by all means keep calling me a Riot shill even though I have maybe 2-3h total played of LoL and have 0 interest in playing it. After all, that is the only tactic the mindless Valve (not Dota) fanboys seem ot have.
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>>317935802
>well-developed characters with backstory, goals and motivations
except they literally butchered the lore?
>>
Is this a thread for remembering our fallen comrades?

RIP DFG
RIP Syndra
RIP Tristana
RIP Veigar
RIP Revive
RIP Homeguard
RIP Rammus
RIP Hecarim
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That's nice and all, but I'm going back playing lol only once they update the champion select system. I hate struggling with other faggots.
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>>317944146
>doesn't remember locket, tiamat twitch and sunfire stacking garen

hi underage
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>>317937897
fucking chinks
I like skeletons
who the fuck doesn't like skeletons
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>>317944059
> Maybe you should stop lying. It was pretty common for people to rage even at the picking stage in ranked. I'm not talking 2k mmr here, but 4-5k mmr players since those are the players I was matched with.
Ayy lmao, no.
You're just butthurt you didn't get gud in time and are constantly getting stomped in unranked/ranked.
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>>317944146
what did they do to syndra?
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>>317929442
favorite line besides skarner's "I miss my kind"
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>>317944298
Retarded China and their backasswards lifestyle
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>>317944146
>rammus
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>>317943680
It is higher because almost nothing is teached to new players and then people are adamant about not learning from their allies.

People don't know how to ward, how to trilane, or even how to support. People don't even know what the laning setup is for.
People think that mid is for ganking.
People think that the jungle is a magical place of endless gpm and xpm with any hero.
People don't even fucking carry TP scrolls despite the fact that it has been reduced to 75 gold from fucking 135.

The list just keeps going on and on. The community is so utterly garbage at the game even after hundreds if not thousands of hours it's downright stupid.

I fucking had to deal with massive retard that went ancient Necro in 5k matchmaking, even when I told him to go lane so I could support him.
I even told him precisely what would happen, how the Gondar would rape his ass and I wouldn't be able to do much as a solo off support. What happened instead was the retard said "muted and reported", went to ancients, got raped by BH, cried and blamed his team and then abandoned.

Fucking shit, Dota and the community is trash and I am so mad I wasted thousands of hours getting good at it.
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>>317944257
I remember them, they just werent great.

I dont remember Leviathan tho.

>>317944396
Removal of DFG killed her.
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>>317944543
>People don't know how to ward, how to trilane, or even how to support. People don't even know what the laning setup is for.
>People think that mid is for ganking.
>People think that the jungle is a magical place of endless gpm and xpm with any hero.

>tfw League of legends brought this shit over
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>>317943252
>Dota has a way higher barrier of entry
>>317943680
>you actually have to learn shit

It's a multiplayer game with matchmaking

No matter how retarded and terrible you are, you will get paired against equally retarded and terrible people.

Your average winrate will be close to 50%

Neither game is harder or easier in practice, if you are 2k/bronze your games are going to be as hard for you as if you were 5k/diamond.
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>>317944337
>You're just butthurt you didn't get gud in time and are constantly getting stomped in unranked/ranked.

Compelling argument. I accept your concession.

But hey, insults are the only thing you have left now when you were proven wrong, repeatedly. Like your baseless accusation that I never played Dota when I have almost 1000 hours more played in Dota than you.
Delusional Valve fanboy.
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>>317943579
>Most people don't take the game seriously,even in ranked.

Oh please, the game had a problem with people waiting until the timer was off in all pick just so they could counterpick the fuck out of the enemy team in normal games.

Like shit people dont take the game seriously.
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>>317944621
>I remember them, they just werent great.

haha what? twitch with tiamats was free pentakills. locket was also ridiculous on udyr and gragas and gave them infinite sustain and made them almost unkillable. sunfire garen was situational though.
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>>317944543
The most amusing thing to me is that while the playerbase is too terrible to understand their own game, they will adamantly defend every part of it while treating the dev as some kind of god.

Every patch is perfectly balanced, even if every patch brings drastic balance changes. The delusion is hilarious and worrying.
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>>317944802
By proven wrong you mean spewing senseless lies that everyone takes the game seriously, which is wrong.
You are probably the guy that tells people what to pick, how they should do this and that, and yet somehow can't manage to win because of muh team.
Also I bet that you are 3k-ish. That's why your buttmad at dota, because you can't get gud.
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>>317944337
It's funny because you have less hours in DotA2 than him and are now trying to strawman that he sucks at the game.
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>>317945268
I would be very obliged to prove it, if any of you want to take up the challenge.
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>>317945034
I think the issue is that they feel threatened by LoL and take every chance they can get to deflect criticism to it. That's why whenever you critique dota, most of the defenders will automatically assume you're a lolbabby, as if how no one can possibly find fault in dota except LoLfags.
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>>317944621
Locket on Udyr? Lol good luck killing him. I remember when Jax could dodge fountain turret fire, and you could get max evasion. That was a little more broken though
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>>317944543
It's sad really, even if you try and give a player a tip, purposely phrase it non-offensively, and they still fucking get mad at yo
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>>317945268
I've seen people have more hours in the game than mmr.

If it takes you 5000 hours and you can't even get 5k mmr, you got some issues mayne.
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>>317945152
It's funny how every argument about dota, if it goes on for long enough, will devolve into "ur just bad"

Mate, valve had to make people lose gold if they picked too late just so they wouldn't wait to counterpick each other in the most casual mode in the game, yes the majority of the playerbase goes pretty tryhard.

Now that windrunner is op she is played more than pudge for christ sake.
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>>317945425
>That's why whenever you critique dota, most of the defenders will automatically assume you're a lolbabby, as if how no one can possibly find fault in dota except LoLfags.

And if you do actually play dota they will just call you bad
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>>317945680
What the hell made Windrunner suddenly OP?
I dont even remember her getting any changes in the last patch, and she was barely picked then
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>league of legends 1 should have stopped after jayce release
>everything else should have been league of legends 2

PROVE ME WRONG
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>>317945845
The meta favors someone who can survive ganks, get by with few items and still carry.

Then you have the fact that she has been buffed so many times in a row I can't even copypaste the entire list of buffs into a 4chan post because it goes over the character limit.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Windranger

>>317945914
It would have made no sense and the current model of releasing champions more slowly while reworking their game is way, way better.
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>>317945845
Slardar is in the meta now

Amplify damage synergizes well with windrunner being the highest physical dps in the game
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>>317945152
>By proven wrong you mean spewing senseless lies

Oh really? What lies and where?

Your hilariosu reddit tier insults "y-you're just shit! git gud!" when met by any kind of criticism is both sad and hilarious. Like a real parrot he can't even come up with original insults when he's backpedaling.

But nah you're right, Dota 2 is the perfect game, Valve is based and I'm just a delusional shitter while you're the next TI winner. Silly me.

>>317945034
>The most amusing thing to me is that while the playerbase is too terrible to understand their own game, they will adamantly defend every part of it while treating the dev as some kind of god.

That's the thing I got really sick and tired of. They will literally accept 0 criticism, even if it would lead to improvements with the game.
Even something so blatant at their massively reduced hero release rate while focusing more and more on cosmetics people still defend the reduced hero release rate as something positive or "the game is free, stop being so entitled, you should be happy Valve even allows you to play the game!".
The communtiy doesn't even care about the game at this point, all they care about is defending Valve, which is just plain wrong.

>>317945349
>I would be very obliged to prove it, if any of you want to take up the challenge.

Is this a joke? Are you one of those idiots that challenge others to 1v1 when the entire game is balanced around teamplay? Even if in theory a mid player could beat someone else 1v1 100% of the time it would not magically make them better players since mid should never be a 1v1 situation unless you play at a really low level of play. You also have to factor in things like being able to recover if you didn't have a good time in mid due to rotations, etc.
There are few players more annoying than the ones that say "well I won mid vs Pudge as QoP so I did nothing wrong this match, I lost because of my team!".
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>>317946081
>Then you have the fact that she has been buffed so many times in a row I can't even copypaste the entire list of buffs into a 4chan post because it goes over the character limit.
Why do dotards never realize something is good until it's overbuffed as fuck
This happened with Axe too
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>>317946376
>Why do dotards never realize something is good until it's overbuffed as fuck

Even pro players are terrible at this game.
I had to argue with people for over a year how Manta+Linken Medusa is garbage yet people kept pointing at pro players building Medusa that way as some sort of proof why I'm wrong, even when I provided arguments, examples and math to back my shit up.

At least now people have finally started to at least build Skadi on her.

It's mindblowing such an elitist community can be so fucking shit at their own game.
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>>317944146
>veigar
wait what, what did they do
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>>317946376
The most blatant case must have been treant protector.

He got buffed for like 7 patches in a row then became a complete monster that had to get patched like a week later because it was just too much.

The best thing is that the playerbase will mostly tell you that the hero is surely fine (because icefrog can commit no mistake) until he gets brutally nerfed the next patch, then icefrog is a genius anyway.

Example: Bloodseeker.

Some other famous ocurrences:

Lycan (just ward his woods bro!)
PL (just gank him bro!)
Drow (just jump on her bro!)
Storm Spirit (just don't get caught bro!)

Every single one of them got completely wrecked by nerfs to such a point that they were barely played at all after them.
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>>317946376
Pros and Pubs play "Grab the oiled pig" with each other

There are only a few Pros like EternalEnvy who actually look at Pubstars, steal their legit builds and then give shoutouts to them during interviews/tournaments
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>>317946547
>I had to argue with people for over a year how Manta+Linken Medusa is garbage

People are completely retarded with dusa.

Building linkens first (which is what most people do) makes as much sense as building heart first on antimage.

You don't build the tanky item first if you are going to farm, that's just something you don't do, it doesn't make sense, just because other people do it doesn't make it right.
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>>317946716
They made his q a skill shot and made is stun have a .5 sec delay. But he's just being melodramatic, Veigar can still one-shot anyone who builds AP with 1 item and everyone else with 3. Anyone who actually plays Veigar has already adapted and he's better with his new q because he can get 2 stacks at a time instead of 1.
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>Used to play pre-rework twitch a hole bunch
>His old invis made him a jungle-murder machine and gank master
>They fucked him up
>Play gangplank
>They fuck him up
>Can't play singed any more because every other top laner does way more damage at a much lower cost or has way more sustain
>Morde got completely fucked off the face of the earth


They just keep ruining everything.
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>>317946809
>EternalEnvy
Too bad EE is a humongous fuck in every other regard
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>>317946805
Techies were easy to counter but the dumb as bricks Pub players wouldn't accept that they needed to change the way they play Dota vs Techies instead of running up ramps without vision all the time

Chinese Pros also whined a lot about Techies I guess, but that's because they don't play in pubs and thus have no clue about Dota anymore

I really want Techies to be a viable, competent hero again not the laughingstock we have now thanks to overnerfing.

At least Drow has some niche strats based around her aura where she still works
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>>317946805
>SS
>just don't get caught bro
The worst excuse yet
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>no DFG
>Singed and Rammus are still never used
>lichbane nerfed to the ground
>gp/5 gutted (RIP HoG)
>Viegar was gutted for no reason
>no more Force of Nature
>Wriggle's is still shit
>still no Magma Chamber
>still only 3 bans in a roster this large

Why are you still playing this game, /v/? I left years ago and I never looked back.
>muh meta
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>>317947036
>>Play gangplank
>>They fuck him up
Gangplank has been the best he's ever been. He's one of the only re-works which has been successful. His q still makes bank his oranges are the same. Now he doesn't have some useless skill and it's been replaced with murder barrels that one-shots everyone that's not a tank. And his ult is not shit now and it's upgrades make it even more deadly with one of it's upgrades having more utility than he had altogether before. GP is way more fun and interesting than he was before, the only thing bad about him is hi look which you don't even have to use since they handed you his free classic skin if you played him.
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>>317947695
They completely ruined his personality and character. I'll play the worst characters in the game if they have a good personality and design I can get behind. Now I can't play GP because he's so fucking boring to look at and listen to.
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The most hilarious thing is the following.

Riot has been desexualizing female human characters since forever now, not even adding any new sexy females at all. The last one was Jinx in 2013.

But on the other side they make the female yordles hot as fuck now. Tristana is barefoot, has an exposed belly and is cheeky and daring.

Same with Poppy. Fucking full blown valley girl twingtail blonde hair. Animu grill aesthetics and even fangs in every of her updates splash arts. And obviously the naive cutesy mannerism in her voice that make her an oblivious cutie.

I bet the guy who does this shit is a full blown weeb.
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>>317947895
>The last one was Jinx
Are you implying lamb isnt sex?
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>>317947895
>Newest champ
>Fits my fetish perfectly

Nigga I don't know what you're on about but Lilo or whatever her name is, good shit right there
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>>317947895
>But on the other side they make the female yordles hot as fuck now. Tristana is barefoot, has an exposed belly and is cheeky and daring.

They probably don't look at yordles as being attractive/sexy.
Reminds me of Gaider and how he thinks that wanting to romance a female dwarf in their games never occured to him and when someone brought it up he was sickened by it.
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>previously had a bunch of hard-hitting, melee based female champs that looked like scrawny shits
>only just now made a girl that actually has visible muscles

why
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>>317948280
Cause fuck Riven
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>>317947895
It's literally just ironkeklys, with his armored girl fetish.
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>>317948280
>Sat here trying to think of how Poppy could be seen as muscular
>Completely forgot about Iollio
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>>317948484
muscle poppy would be nice, too.
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I just hope they don't touch my man.

Visual update sure, but don't you dare fucking touch his kit.
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>>317948986
morde main here, they definitely will, they won't stop till he's full of gimmicks
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>>317926414
>let's change the meta again
>literally the same 20 heroes in the pro pool for 3 years
you wish LeLbabby
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>>317947695
that webm is a glitch, lucians ult isn't applying the 400% damage to minions sometimes this patch
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>>317947895
>jinx
>sexy

don't you have to go shit up dota threads with your shit taste
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>Next they are going to rework Annie and make her into an adult because someone will make an issue about muh lolicons playing muh childs game
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>>317947895
Because yordles != humans so it's OK.
Same with the other anthro females they make outside of like void monsters because they don't even attempt to do much with the bugs. But if it's human? NOPE! Can't be sexy! It's OK though, muscle gal with FUCKING TENTACLES GALORE is fetish fuel in a different way.
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>>317926027
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>>317926027
I've got a new qt shortstack to fap to.
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>>317938756
>tfw cant get good as kunkka because im shitty at farming.
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>>317948986
Dont worry they will
Lemme give ya a preview

Q will be a dash with silence. W will force enemies to play DDR to not take 100% health pure damage. E will be a skillshot. R will be changed completely because "N-No counterplay" "Anti-fun mechanics" "Toxic, Unbalanceable"

Oh and his passive will get stupidly overpowered shoehorning him into building AD, before they nerf every part of him into the ground
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>>317949675
what's the aqdequate mid creep score at 30 minutes in dota?
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Any other anons going to the IWC All Stars?

I hate Riot as much as the next person but high level League is just a reminder that it used to be fun before Riot fucked everything you love
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>>317949901
I have no idea because im bad at farming. Probably several hundred by that point since if you are a farming hero you can eventually wave clear with 1 or 2 attacks.
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>>317950265
>high level League is just a reminder that it used to be fun
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>>317949874
You forgot the part where you have to hit three autohits for something to trigger
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>>317950364
Its a reminder that underneath the shitheap that is solo queue or literally anything now since people play Normals/ARAMs like its life or death that theres a pretty good game. Where when someone picks AD Vlad its because they believee that he's got a good enough kit to handle bot lane, not because they saw some epik troll video on reddit or twitch by Trick2G or some other streamer.
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>>317947576
>Viegar was gutted for no reason
Are you having a laugh, here? They reworked Q to be able to go through the first target and possibly giving you two stacks along with a range increase which helped laning (his weak point), reduced some cast times, buffed his mana regen, and the changes to his Event Horizon to stop everything short of a blink in exchange for it not being instant made him really fucking good.
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>>317950352
oh, okay, thanks
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>>317950417
Thats how his new passive would trigger of course
And you would have no limit on spawning them.
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>>317930057
>he
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>>317926414

>lol
>meta

LOL
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>>317950580
>Complains about people taking the game too seriously
>Complains about people fucking around with wacky bulds/roles

Also people usually copy streams because they think what the streamer is doing, is good
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>>317930057
Why did they update her kit at all? She only needed a visual update.
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>her facial animations are literally PIXAR-tier

Say what you want about Riot, the guy who did those animations is a professional.
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>>317947796
>They completely ruined his personality and character.

>Yo ho ho and a bottle of... RUM!
>Shiver me timbers!
His old personality was literally "pirate"
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>>317944621
>>317944396
Also some range nerfs on abilities that "totally never happened" as stated by Riot, until someone datamined the nerfs.
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semen spemen meme'n & schemin y'see, men. Fleamen semen sem sem, globular anus. Phlegm.
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>>317951268
>this is what lolbabs believe

meanwhile dota uses source engine and like TF2 they have facial animations on all heroes
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>>317951302
And it was great
Until they ruined it
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>>317951302
Better than what it is now.
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>>317930057
I'm pretty sure the buckler is designed for easy cs, since it returns to you if you successfully last hit
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I think 90% of that time was played with skellie king.

Is DotA okay to play 1-2 games every day without knowing every single item build?
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>>317951427
>They changed it now it sucks
That's this entire thread.
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>>317951451
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Yordles are great
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>>317951363
Which doesn't make him any less right?
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>>317951268
>They finally have facial animations
Only took one hundred or so champs
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>>317948443
what the fuck, is that ass wiggle real or just like one of those soraka futa skins?
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>>317941492
Funny enough I quit because the people are shit...they shit all over my mains so many times I got used to it but when shit in ranked like mid garen, players on both teams afk and feeding for 6 games in a row, people slap fighting over normally banned champs, or feeding because the normally banned champs got banned, and everyone trying to get darius even though he's not really worth it.
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>>317951816
The game doesnt even need facial animations, you are not going to see anyone's face for more than 99% of the time
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>>317951916
That's the real skin. It's from the recent MF update.
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>>317949874
>R will be changed completely because "N-No counterplay" "Anti-fun mechanics" "Toxic, Unbalanceable"
QSS and ... Mikaels?
or some of the other bullshit items.
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>stop playing around Yasuo patch
>come back to see the new changes
>wow shit's weird but i kinda like it
>oh im missing heroes that I want, I should get some IP
>10 games later, I realize nothing actually changed
>and the cash shop bullshit is still fucking terrible after owning like 110 heroes

honestly just fuck league of legends it's such a massive piece of shit
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>>317949901
Depends on the hero, Yurnero should have 200+ while a Naga can have 400+, but you should get between 50-70 last hits if you are solo mid/safe lane on any hero before the 10th minute mark.
Most heroes get their gold from kills anyway.
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>>317948986
enjoy your new ADC
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>people like gangplank
>literally PIRATE

lmao nice 'champion''' lolbabs
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>>317952110

>4 year old pics

HHAHAA, HAVE SOME OLDFAG POINTS DUDE LE EBIN LEJUUN WE DO NOT SOW
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>>317951964
>everyone trying to get darius even though he's not really worth it.
When did you leave?
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>can't spend 1 minute talking about a moba without dotards shitposting
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>>317952015
Those cant remove suppressions
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>>317952013
what the fuck, her ass is bigger than baron
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>>317951302
the fact that he was a jolly motherfucker was the best thing about his character. because at that point we had a lot of "serious" characters that had motives and backstories, and then there was this fucking pirate that was saying "Shiver me timbers" and "bunghole" whose backstory was literally "he's done some pirate things yeah"

it was great

they had a chance to redeem post-rework GP so they get their edge and keep the ham pirate. he could have just stopped giving 0 fucks and went from ruthless edge-pirate to jolly ham pirate that did edgy things because he lost everything and doesn't give a shit anymore
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>>317926027
Heimer da best
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>>317952090
okay, thanks, I only play invoker so I'll just aim for the 60-80cs mark every 10 minutes
thank you
I played for 300 hours a few years ago, so I still know bits of how to game work
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>>317952259
>Azir just standing there and auto-attacking instead of at least making an attempt to dodge skillshots
Remember when people wanted Fnatic to be the world champs again?
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>>317952331
QSS can
otherwise no one would buy it
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>>317951652
That's scarily cute
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>>317952259

>Worlds was played in a patch where he was broken

He's not very good anymore.
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>>317952331
Yes they fucking do. Suppression is a cc effect the same way a stun or root is.

Taking cleanse into lane against Malzahar is the one guaranteed way to fuck him over.
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>>317952482
Do people seriously still believe esports isnt rigged as fuck?
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>>317952582
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Mikael's_Crucible
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Lol babies please leave
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>>317952259
what the hell did they expect getting under TWO towers?
of course they'd get slaughtered
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The only good thing about new Poppy is theboogie will have more shortstacks to draw.
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>>317952753
>tfw lone druid will never be good again.
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>>317952758
uh... the towers belong to blue
blue got slaughtered
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>>317952753

>post in a lol thread
>lol please leave

why are you even here if you don't lol? You so newfag you don't know how to hide threads?
>>
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>>317952820
poppy is now more loli than short stack.....

enjoy your fbi watch
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>>317952758
"Geez FNC, two towers?!"
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>>317952090
Thats having basic complete freefarm though..
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>>317931224
>LoL taking out creative things
Wowie glad I stopped playing that shit.
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>TI5 was a huge success
>18million

>meanwhile LoL Worlds
>1 week apart each game
>no hype
>koreans won
>50% less kills per minute than TI5
>60 champions picked in 1 day
>only 74 champions used
>37 were picked 5 or less times

nice METAGAME lolbabs
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>>317953012
OH BABY
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>>317953082
Must be the only time people remember Dota 2 exists is when Valve markets their whole 18mil compendium thing
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>>317953058
50 should be obtaineble even when contested. This is in a mid 1v1/2v2 or a safe lane trilane though.
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>>317935648

GP turned from retard spouting stupid pirate lines to retard spouting different pirate lines.

Sion changed from sounding like a shittily voiced character from a Bethesda quest mod to a loud retard barbarian.

Trundle changed from ECH ECHHHHHHHHHHH MY DISEASE to DA TROLL KING.

Literally all three of these reworks are better than the original designs.
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RUINED
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>>317952843
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>>317953230
What about their 3 million Major
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>>317953265
I agree with that for sure, but 400 with medusa at 30 minutes is pretty unrealistic in most situations
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>>317926027
Porn when.
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>>317953289
(you)/10
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>>317952956
why are you on /v/ if you don't play dota?
we run this shi

>>317952843
>>317953354
Just wait for another madman change by our guy Icefrog.
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>>317953362
Dont even know what that is ;)
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>>317953440

>can't dispute what was said so defaults to b-b-b-bait

Typical nostalgia faggot.
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>>317952820
I keep hearing about theboogie but don't know where to find his stuff. Any links?

>>317953038
Incorrect. She's clearly of age and has shortstack proportions.
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>>317953532
(you)/ten
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>>317926027
No one here seems to realize how strong her ult is. You can make any team fight full on 4v5 almost instantly. This is insane for solo queue.

That tank keeping you away from their carries? Gone.

One of their carries is too fed and carrying the shit out of their team? Gone.

Getting tower dove? Reset aggro to someone they didn't plan on/improve odds.

Granted, does the same thing as the previous ult but less, but the old ult was insane, and this is still good.
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>>317926880
JOKER
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>>317951464
>Is DotA okay to play 1-2 games every day without knowing every single item build?

Dota is only fun for maybe teh first 100-300 hours tops because everything seems fresh, interesting and new.
After that it only goes downhill.
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>>317954294
And then you patiently wait until the patch hits.
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>Dota 2 gets new content once in every 3rd blue moon
>Play with third worlders because the majority of them think its a good idea to play US and EU servers
>Q times are so long you might aswell leave it running overnight before your next game
>Most heroes are point and click adventures
>Actually dying in terms of playercount: peak being 1mill during 2013 and a bit and now its fallen to barely 800k
>Ukrainian players outnumber US players

And yet you meme lords still unironically think Dota 2 is good.

I admit that League isnt perfect (shitty client, shitty engine etc) but there isnt compelling about Dota 2 and the only people who play it are from the third world and delusional valvedrones.

checkmate athiests.
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>>317954294
Maybe if you have ADD you fucking sperg.
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>>317953082
>>TI5 was a huge success
>>18million

And pretty much none of that gets pumped back into the game. Instead they're reducing the hero release rate, quality updates, balance patches, etc.

The new client doesn't even have better functionality and systems compared to the prior client.
They're even more lazy with the compendiums as well (seriously, the majors compendium wasn't even a compendium, just a fucking jewmachine with shit value).
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>>317926027
League of Toxic Assholes
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>>317954657
What's the point of getting good at Dota when you just get depressed over how bad your allies are? Not only that, they blame you and the team for when they fuck up.
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Her french voice makes my dick diamonds. Even though I don't understand most of her lines this way.
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>>317954992
I can't fathom why would any self-loving person want to play dota alone for more than a couple matches.
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>>317954660
What are you even talking about?

The new client was to add Custom Games and to prepare to port Dota 2 to the UNRELEASED Source 2 engine.

All that money from the compendium does get pumped back into the community, what do you think funds the Majors? That said this Majors compendium was pretty shit.

Also Dota is currently in one of the best patches in a long time so fuck off on that.
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>dota adds non-english voices
>first up is chinese
>then russian
>after that it's most likely peruvian

Valve is not even trying to hide it anymore. This is also why they allow the third world shitters to run rampant without a region lock.
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Notice how League threads on /v/ 90% of times have actual good discussion.

It's very weird.
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>>317955393
https://monosnap.com/file/IiNX0MH9vm8m4l4PsGIwynDhjtvYEU
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>>317955519
its because most of the dotaposters have realized no one wants to talk about their game except in /vg/
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>>317955236
>All that money from the compendium does get pumped back into the community, what do you think funds the Majors? That said this Majors compendium was pretty shit.

Tippety top kek. Oh yeah, Valve holds the majors and makes majors compendiums and shit because they're nice and not to suck even more money out of the playerbase.
FFS you couldn't even get a single compendium chest unless you purchased additional levels, which is a fucking joke since all the majors compendium was = cosmetic shit. It's not even a fucking compendium, it's just something to suck money out of the players with for as little effort as possible.

>Also Dota is currently in one of the best patches in a long time so fuck off on that.

I don't know which statement was funnier, this or the last one. The game is currently in the most retarded state it has ever been in.
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>>317955519
still don't know why it's accepteable now
ASSFAGGOTS are terrible games and are literally anti-fun time killer games and should never be talked about here.

I play this shit game but i would never recommend anybody else to play this fucking garbage
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>>317955519
I'm the OP and I made this thread because I think that character looks cute

I have never played LoL.
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>>317956121
I feel ya. I stopped forever ago but friend at worked asked me to play with him so I downloaded again. Last time I played Yasuo was new, what's changed since
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>>317955867
>he actually thinks this patch is bad
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I prefer HotS.
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>used to play dota with a stack
>haven't played since last year
>friends ask me to come back because they thought i was the best player in our group
>friends keeps gifting me compendiums to try and get me back into the game
>meanwhile i have been able to finish 10x more games than when i played dota, gotten fit from working out and i'm living a far more relaxed life
>recently get a new girlfriend
>"hey anon, do you play dota? wanna play it with me?"
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It's sad that even the quality of lol porn has been getting worse over time and that's the only good thing left.

Except for Tristana porn because let theboogie be praised and may he lead us to many faps.
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>>317956847
>>he actually thinks this patch is bad

You might actually enjoy "madman" (read. full-retard) changes to the game like what they did to Undying but I wanted off their wild ride.
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>>317957256
>tfw I played Undying for the first time the other night
>didn't even get Aghs but Decay was some of the most fucking fun I've had with this game
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>>317956408
>what's new

>even more new powercreep champs
>they reworked mord, fiora and now poppy to into gimic based champs that can one shot you if they are lucky but mange to nerf them into the ground agan so now they are exactly where they were in the first place
>rewokred Darius, Garen, Skarner and called them "the juggarnuts"
>this game them an excuse to give them all insance buffs so they became pick/ban for a long time
>skarner was literally apex banrate since Kassadin
>make new masteries OP as fuck on some champs

that's just a little sum up
Basicallyeverythign is fuck but that's nothing new form riot balancing
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>no broken ganker to stomp with as in any of the MOBA games since Infinite Crisis and my man Superman kicked the bucket
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>>317957256
maybe you should consider playing league
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>>317957481
i see my dyslexia is kicking in again.

see kids this is what lol does to you. it makes you retarded
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>>317957481
How was riot supposed to know that giving a 15% heal on crit mastery would be overpowered on a champion that gets his crit rate doubled and can have 100% crit after 2 items.

nobody could have ever seen that coming.
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>>317957548
>maybe you should consider playing league

Why? I played Dota Allstars and then Dota 2 for years and when the game and Valve started their downward spiral I had enough.

Dota isn't even a difficult game to play in terms of the heroes, the depth lies in all the interactions (with heaps of exceptions that don't even make sense, there is no consistency), juke points and other shit more tied to the actual map than the game itself.

With a proper tutorial (or even tutor) system the overall player skill would skyrocket because the game isn't actually difficult to play.
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>>317958103
>I wanted off their wild ride
>maybe you should consider playing league

>Why?
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I quit when they nerfed my nigger Veigar because Riots balance team is fucktarded and nerfs anything different that shows up in a tournament.

Have they buffed him since?
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>>317958260
So your logic is this. I don't want to play Dota anymore because of how badly the game is turning out and how poorly Valve is running it, so I should play LoL instead?
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>>317958432
nothing wrong with that logic fampai
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>>317957483
>passive that gives free shield that increases as you use skills
>attack steroid with 2 stacks of 0 cd charges
>slow+root cone
>ranged knockback nuke w. blink strike follow-up
>global blink strike+stun ult

Thank fuck for that.
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>>317946805
>All about carries
>Not a single word about support
Hello reddit/2k mmr
>Storm
>OP
My favorite meme. because it is statistically wrong
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>>317938756
>Play the fuck out kunkka
>See graves rework
>A ranged kunkka
>mfw in game
those 2 bullets are bullshit but the damage to towers.
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>>317958848
Supports has a whole have been buffed several times in a row, their balance rarely affects the game as much as anyone else.

Stay butthurt about your nerfed storm spirit by the way, he should have never had that ult mana cost.
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ass faggots
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>>317959067
Thank you for the clarification
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>>317937126
>memes
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>>317959053
>their balance rarely affects the game as much as anyone else.
Bruh
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>>317959492
Do go ahead and tell me when in the world has a support been such a pain in the ass as HEE HEE HOO HOO or offlane faceless void please.

Whenever a support gets that strong he stops getting played as a support and starts getting played as a midlaner.
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>>317959613
windranger
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>>317944146
Cho'gath main here, how badly are they going to fuck him up?
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>>317959613
I'VE BEEN TO HELL AND BACK AND BACK TO HELL
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>want to play a moba
>spent around 1000 hours on LoL (700 of that with Draven), other heroes are boring to play
>300 hours on dota
>started playing again
>the game is a right click festival

I really like dota, but I always play for a few hours before I realise that right click heroes are where it's at and it gets boringagain
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Why is the genre so stagnant and shit?

Where is the innovation?

Why do people play 50 minutes of this crap per game when the only time anything interesting happens is at the last 10 minutes?

Why do you have to build into having all of your abilities. No other competitive game works like that. Why is there only extreme snowballing or extreme snowballing halted by comeback bandaid mechanics.
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>>317960037
play earth spirit m8.
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>>317959613
>There migh be many earth, but there is only one earthshaker
>le balanced not dragon of no physical damage
>Dazzle
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>>317960326
I'm playing invoker at the moment
trying to play him every pub and if I can't I just go spectre (cause I want to learn how to farm properly)
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>>317960326
>first pick earth spirit
>faggot team picks 4 cores
>"anon, go support our carry in lane"

Every time.
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>>317942106

>dota meta isn't static
>trilanes and early game snowballing for 3 almost 4 years now
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>>317944146
RIP Nasus old VA
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>>317959743
Windranger has not been a support for literal years.

Also:

>Whenever a support gets that strong he stops getting played as a support and starts getting played as a midlaner.
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>>317952110
>caring about lore in a competitive game

Why do the terrorists keep attacking the bomb site in CS? Whats the lore for ct number 3?
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>>317960037
>right click heroes are where it's at
maybe if you're bad. trying to play a straight physical damage hero in anything above 3.5k is going to get you in shit unless you have a team build around you doing it.
Viper, Lifestealer, Sven, Drow, Clinkz, Sniper, Troll, so on and so forth, are all shit and barely played these days. This patch and last it's all about Doom, Lina, Leshrac, Storm, Tusk, Ember, Alch (his spells are the only thing that save him, don't pretend his right click actually does anything without his ultimate and acid)

If you're playing right click heroes you're doing it wrong.
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>>317962714
>left the thread for a while
>dotards swarm the thread fucking evangelizing for people to play their game

why? can't they make their own thread and leave lolbabbies alone?
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>>317961232
>trilanes and early game snowballing for 3 almost 4 years now
>trilanes
explains why dual mid has been a big thing for the past 3 large tournaments, that or 1-2 dedicated roamers who aren't in a single lane for more than 2 minutes unless a tower is being pressured.
trilanes were a <6.82 thing where the games started at 20 minutes and your lategame carry was 80% of your chance at winning.
>early game snowballing
so you really are just talking shit. comebacks are more present than every, early game snowballing only works if you end the game while you're still in it, which is extremely difficult with the amount of fighting promoted by these recent patches.
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I still cant get over how they changed sion around. Old sion was basically trundle/trydamere but 2x stronger when played right.
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Galio rework when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8duhfXL8-1A
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>>317963350
Dotards are insecure.

>"pfft, LoL has 3x more viewers than DOTA? Fucking casuals! Wouldnt want them playing our game anyways."
>"WHY ARENT YOU PLAYING THE SUPERIOR ASSFAGGOTS /V/? PLEASE PLAY IM SO ALONE"
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>>317964213
>still using the viewers argument
theres an ingame spectating option.
>"WHY ARENT YOU PLAYING THE SUPERIOR ASSFAGGOTS /V/? PLEASE PLAY IM SO ALONE"
so much astroturf and projection it's kind of sad.
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>>317964158
Hopefully never.

Th best fucking hard counter to guys like Brand and Malz. Literally do no damage and he heals off of DOT damage.

Its hilarious.
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Playing Heroes of the Storm now, never looked back.
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>>317964827
I wish LoL and Dota weren't unbearable to play these days. I really like Blizzard heroes but I miss some of those characters.
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>>317964213
>Dotards are insecure.

They're just elitist.
Many are also literal Valve drones. They put a higher priority on defending Valve than wanting the game to improve.
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>>317964158
anti darius play right there
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>League shitters giving thread 400+ replies
>>>leddit
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>>317965885
>discussing games
>reddit

Reddit is more about meme and upvotes. On 4chan you can at least get some discussion going every now and then.
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>>317926414
Is Morello off the team?
I miss making fun of him
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>>317926414
>screw balance, let's change the meta again
>any time the meta changes, they force it back to how it was
uhhhh
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>Never played LoL before
>she's so cute I want to try it now
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>>317968378
Adc mid were fun.

But its never about fun, its about esports
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>>317926027

Not even the same fucking character. If I didn't already quit due to riots incompetence, this would have definitely sent me over the line. How fucking hard is it to just have a kit update and an HD model, why completely turn 1 character into something completely different?
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>>317944146

Rip Sunfire Cape, RIP old art style for splashes and the map.

I don't know if it's just me, but the look of League now is fucking atrocious compared to how it used to be originally, I don't know how you people do it.
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>>317969790
>>I don't know if it's just me, but the look of League now is fucking atrocious compared to how it used to be originally, I don't know how you people do it.
Riot made enough dosh to change their game from a childish game to a "oh so mature we can definitly compare with dota!" game and Im not even speaking for DotA here, Riot just went full esportz for whatever good it brought them and said "fuck the community".
I mean just look at their retarded tournament and team rules
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>>317968378
I can't wrap my head around why they're so insistent on the laning phase staying exactly the same. Why does Riot seem to hate players trying new things so much?
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>>317964827
It runs like fucking shit compared to LoL Dota or Smite. Blizzard cant optimize for shit. For SHIT.
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>>317944146
RIP Soraka
RIP Twitch
RIP sword of the divine
RIP heart of gold
RIP Ryze
RIP goldper10s that aren't forced into support only items
RIP holiday maps
RIP fun
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>>317970126
>Why does Riot seem to hate players trying new things so much
Less work for them - balancing stuff and they dont have to keep an eye on people exploring retarded shit with retarded hero/item combinations.
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>>317970126
Easier to balance, has more of a faggy "esports" feel (like positions in team sports), community is too dense to play the game without being told where to go and how to compose a team

It's a win/win/win for them
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>>317957143
I hate that skin. the death animations kills my heart.
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>>317926027
Shite. I mean the skills are nice and work, but they're so fucking uninspired. Just the same Tanky Dps champion we've been seeing for over 3 years.

Slows and gap closers to so that the assassins can kill the target with ease and a ult that disrupts the enemy team.

So fucking boring, I can't remind myself the last time they tried something unique like Karthus passive or Poppy's old ult.
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>>317926414
Honestly this, Poppy's voice and character has been completely ruined in favour of something marketable, hammer-tristana, cause selling serious characters that aren't murderers is hard

Gangplank though is honestly a good redesign; they took a joke character and made him into Captain Barbarossa, whom is definitely the best Pirate of the Carribean
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> Dota fans invading a league thread
> just to shit on the game
Fuck off
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>>317970776
>I can't remind myself the last time they tried something unique
Tentacle bitch.
That said she does look very underwhelming, I mean stationary tentacles read damage is just shit
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>>317970934
>anyone who criticizes my game in any way, shape, or form automatically plays the rival game and that means their arguments don't matter!!
I can smell your insecurity from a mile away, anon
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>>317970936
Most champion in LoL that have interesting mechanics are weak. I mean, Zac is pretty cool champion, but even if go full retard his skills don't dish out enough damage.
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They are released the best champ so who cares.
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>>317971139
> insecure
i just want to go into a thread to discuss the topic because i have a passion/interest in it.
seeing all these fucks say "HAHA HA LOLBABS UR GAME IS BAD XDD" seems like people are so insecure that they need to project their agenda.
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>>317971547
>wanting 4chan to be a hugbox
>going into literally any thread and not expecting criticism
Enjoying your first few weeks on /v/?
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Who would win?
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>>317971547
But outside of gameplay (which is entirely subjective), your game is actually trash.
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>>317971954
>outside of game, your game is trash
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>>317934486
Galio is untouched thank god, but for how long.
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>>317972074
Next reworks announced are Shen and Taric, we have atleast 4 months
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>>317971547
>play an objectively bad game
>get upset when people call it bad
I don't know what to tell you, anon
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>>317928532
Have a Seat anon.
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>>317971850
Kunka can buy divine, so there's that.
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>>317941608
>static meta
>Wrong
see
>>317968378

Riot literally admits that there's a static meta and tells us they want to continue forcing it
This is levels of denial I previously thought impossible
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>>317972198
>Still no WW

FUCK he doesnt need a fucking sion-level rework.
Just change his W to something more fun, give him a model update and for fucks sake update that ugly splash art.
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>>317968378
>single guy said shit
>he works at riot so it must be true!!
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>>317952482
>>317952612
KEKEKEKEKEK DO YOU MOTHERFUCKERS EVEN PLAY THE GAME? HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AZIR?
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>>317969219
>played LoL before about 3 years ago
>she's so cute (finally) I want to try her now
>...nah, I'll just check on the new porn that she'll inevitably get and be satisfied with that.
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>>317972420
You do know that Riot has always had a issue with 1 guy saying shit that actually isn't true for the company, right?

Most likely, he thinks this, but Riot as a whole does not.Fuckwits with twitter think they represent the company, they often don't.
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>>317972859
>this much fucking denial
He's the lead technical designer

Even if this screencap didn't exist, the proof is in the fact that the same meta's been in place for 4 years now and any time anything else gained popularity in its place they nerfed it out until their original forced meta was best again
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>>317972198
Taric is either gonna get better or destroyed.

No middle ground
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>>317973090
Hey, just saying that many a time dipfucks though their ideologie was the one Riot followed when it wasn't, ain't defending them if it is, just saying its a possibility.

Plus, company is deadbeat incompetent at anything that isn't modeling and animations.Shame they can't make fun as fuck champs OP, Bard ADC was always such a good time when I had one.
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>>317973090
>lane swapping
>supports at top lane
>vision changes
>new dragon

confirmed for not even playing the game. remember when split push was the shit back then?
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>>317951363
Dota 2 uses Source 2 m8
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>>317973209
Taric will be better.

Its almost impossible for them to fuck Taric up, even by Rito standards.
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>>317942770
>took them so long to add a furbait champion.
Are you baiting?
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>>317972457
>Just change his W to something more fun
the fuck you want?

"make your allies form a pentagram to receive a massive attackspeed and runspeed boost, every champ is locked inside the pentagram and all 5 can only move into one direction, enemy champs inside the pentagram get trapped for the duration"
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