So I guess they did the right thing and cancelled this. Not one peep since E3.
>>317846587
With 79,000 downvotes is pretty sure they have cancelled it. I feel sorry for Metroidfags and the franchise in general.
>>317846587
Yeah, surely they'll cancel it because of some dislikes on a youtube video by retarded fanboys who are upset they didn't get what they wanted.
Think they're reworking some things to lessen the hate it's bound to relieve on launch?
>>317846587
People said the same thing with FE#
It'll show up later.
>>317847916
>some
Nintendo fans are rarely critical of Nintendo games. This is a rare occurrence. They probably did cancel this game to make them happy.
This trailer is also one of the most viewed on their channel, and that's only because of negative feedback.
>>317846587
Most cancer community. I feel sorry for devs
>>317846587
>right thing
Why? Form what little we have seen of the game, it look interesting. Nintendo has made a lot of co-op lately and they have all been fun. We'll see what we get out of it.
Why did people hate this so much? It looked fun
>>317848946
metriodbabies can't handle a spinoff game from a company that makes a lot of spin offs
>>317848946
People wanted it to be a game about Samus.
Who here actually gave a thumbs up to that video?
I did.
>>317848946
Metroid fans can't handle a change in tone and artstyle.
Same fucking thing happened to Zelda.
>>317849087
It's another Wind Waker.
Can't really criticize so early, but I can understand some of the responses due to the long wait without any new Metroid games. Excluding Other M
>>317846587
>metroid can't have a spinoff
What's wrong with one spinoff?
>>317849363
Uh? Zelda change in tone and style almost every fucking game.
>>317846587
>Federation Force is cancelled.
>Metriod falls to F-Zero levels of dead.
I would kek
>>317849483
It's been forever since a mainline one
>>317848946
Not really
>>317849483
Nothing, it's the fact that they haven't released a main title in so long and other M shit on the franchise.
Then, after years of nothing they come out with this silly spin off. I understand why people would be pissed, however petitioning to cancel the game is retarded entitlement.
>>317849581
Last generation was forever ago?
Most stopped caring. This will be reflected in its poor sales.
>>317849635
>>317849581
>Nothing, it's the fact that they haven't released a main title in so long and other M shit on the franchise.
I fail to see how that make it a good reason to hate a spin-off.
>. I understand why people would be pissed
I really don't.
>>317848946
Before the conference they said they had a big Metroid Prime announcement. This game has nothing in common with Prime gameplay or story wise. They tacked the name Prime on then mislead fans of that specific series into thinking they were going to announce a sequel.
How are you surprised that there is backlash?
>>317846587
They probably figured it would bomb worse than Codename Steam.
>>317849581
>5 years
>forever
That's nothing, especially compared to some other Nintendo properties like F Zero or Star Fox
>>317847760
We were spared from a horrible piece of shit. Now I wish they had also downvoted Mario Tennis and Amiibo party to such extend.
>>317846587
>he thinks that Nintendo will listen to anyone
>>317849683
Other M was shit and took Metroid five steps back.
>>317849813
>they said they had a big Metroid Prime announcement.
No, they never ever said that. All there was was stupid rumors people bought into.
I guess there wirr be no more Metoroido.
>>317849363
>Metroid fans can't handle a change in tone and artstyle.
>Same fucking thing happened to Zelda.
For good reason. Zelda slowly started going to complete shit after WW. Now its lost it's roots completely, just look at Triforce Heroes and all of the half-assed ports they're trying to pass off as remakes.
I can't blame them for being bitchy this time around, especially when they had to deal with the recent clusterfuck of a disaster that was Other M.
>>317849363
>Metroid fans can't handle a change in tone and artstyle.
Fans dislike when this happens. It's why whenever a series does this it risk alienating fans and dying, If a company does this they better make sure they pull in more new people they push away.
>>317849581
Metroid is a franchise that is known to not have frequent release. There was 8 years between Super and Fusion/Prime.
I imagine it is going under seriously remodelling
>>317848946
It looks horrible. The visuals just look terrible. The hunting mode seemed tedious and had one guy stand in a cage. The other was a slow boring football game that was so unhype at the championship
This is after no new metroid for ages after the worst in the series
>>317849991
>Zelda slowly started going to complete shit after WW.
>after WW
You mean at WW. Aonuma even commented the game did damage to the brand.
Nah, they're just preparing for a 3D World level turnaround in public perception. Just demonstrating some mid game content should be enough to win people over. Merely watching the E3 stream has convinced me that the game is going to be great.
>Prime is one of my most loved games
>Still looking forward to this because I'm fine with a spin-off
>>317848208
this
Nintendo fans usually eat up any piece of shit they spit out
Look at the new Star Fox
>Iwata had to listen to a bunch of whiny teenagers and morons moaning about a spin-off on his death bed
What a great goodbye gift
>>317849785
Because they could have spent making a main game that people have been literally begging for.
>>317850194
You're right, it started at WW.
Regardless, despite the stupid art style change splitting apart the fanbase, the Zelda name brand was still important and recognized back in the day.
Now it's a complete fucking joke of a series that's resting on it's laurels for relevance. It's fanbase is mostly comprised of adults and late teens now who're simply hoping that Nintendo gets its act together for a change. Though that can be applied to the majority of Nintendo at this point.
>Aonuma even commented the game did damage to the brand.
And yet he still pulls through with Toon Link and the cel-shaded shit. Man doesn't give a single fuck.
Game looks HILARIOUSLY bad, like absolute microwaved dog SHIT.
People have every right to be angry. If an incompetent developer cannot give fans what they want, maybe they should sell the franchise to a company that knows what the fuck they are doing.
Fuck nintendo. Fuck their bitch ass 17 year old fans too.
>>317850521
That's what he gets for ruining a great gaming company to the ground, to the point where even their games aren't great anymore.
Maybe if he didn't okay the Wii-U to begin with, then this would've never happened.
>>317850790
Yeha nigga zap to the xtrem
Fuck dah police
Why bother spending money advertising something that your market flat out told you is going to sell like shit?
>>317850883
>where even their games aren't great anymore.
Someone sounds bitter and a bit uninformed.
>>317847760
>>317847760
I fucking don't, spent how long, two years at least, acting like the they're the most slighted fanbase on the net, fracturing itself, being a holier-than-thou circlejerk, over one bad game and overly eager to blame everyone and everything except the one person responsible for it. I am fucking glad they're up shit creek, heaven help us if Nintendo actually takes cues from them.
Also they lie about Samus being the first lady in video games, Alis is.
And she was better at it too.
>>317849569
>implying F-Zero should be dug up and given a trashy 'revival' like star fox
F-Zero will never be better than GX. Give it an HD remake or let it rest.
>>317850416
To be fair. Nintendo did take feedback into account and delayed the game to make it better
They are probably doing the same with this right now. Nintendo hate cancelling stuff outright. Look at project hammer. That game went through a ton of reworking before they pulled the plug on it.
>former Western-loved Nintendo IPs turning into total garbage (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Animal Crossing)
>only good games geting released are anime (Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Pokemon)
>Americans hate Nintendo now because of a shitty US branch and piss-poor cashgrabs
>Japs now tolerating Nintendo far better cause anime
Should Nintendo shift gears?
>>317851056
>uninformed
lol
http://wiiudaily.com/2015/11/2015-is-nintendos-lowest-reviewed-year-on-metacritic-in-10-years/
Aside from Splatoon and Xenoblade, can you name any truly ambitious or original first-party titles from them this gen?
>>317851170
>Also they lie about Samus being the first lady in video games
Literally not one single person has ever said this.
>>317851378
But FE and Pokemon fags hate the current entries of their franchises
>>317851003
B-but it looks interesting! Give it a chance!
>>317851459
They have. They act like she's fucking special because she was apparently the first woman to have the protag spot in a action heavy game. Which is lies, filthy common knowledge esque lies.
>>317848369
>>317849087
Eat a dick. Both of you. Since when quick cash job spin offs are a good thing? People constantly say Nintendo fans eat any shit, now Metroid fans grow a spine and step up to this bullshit and they are suddenly the rotten apple? It doesn't matter if Mario, Zelda or AC get some cash in titles because those fucking series still have a constant flow of main titles, they are not in the limbo.
Think about a game you love that is facing a drought, it's now back as bare bones spin off that focuses on minor mechanics of the main series attached to party game.
>>317849363
I wouldn't even mind a change in style if it looked any good. It's not because it's chibi that it rubs me the wrong way, those models were indie eshop title tier.
>>317849635
Doesn't help that they first tried to tease the game as some Soccer shovelware for the eshop. Nintendo was absolutely tone deaf when it came to planning out this game.
No brand new, gorgeous 2.5D Metroid for Wii U with 3DS port.
>mfw
What Federation Force could've been was a game focused around the squad of Troopers that ended up stranded on Aether in Prime 2. The story you piece together from reading their logs is pretty chilling and I've always thought it'd serve as great game material.
>>317846587
Metroid fags are the most entitled assholes ever. Your franchise is dead, and you're only killing it further with your retardation.
>>317851948
Fucking GOOD
>>317846587
I'm still trying to figure out who the fuck this was supposed to be marketed to? Who wanted this?
>>317851348
>implying they delayed it to do anything besides manufacture the arwing amiibo to throw in the box
>>317849430
>>317849363
Wind Waker changed art style, but that's it. The gameplay was the same as it always had been: dungeons and puzzles.
Federation Force changed art style, became a co-op shooter which completely contradicts the isolation of traditional Metroid gameplay, and was Metroid in name only, which is a slap in the face from a company who hasn't given us a main-line game in 5 years, 8 if you don't count Other M
>>317849873
>5 years
Pic related 2002. Zero Mission 2004. Prime 3 in 2007. You don't bounce from one of the worst game in he franchise to some shitty spin off. Even another fucking remake would be a better move, because it would at least show they are willing to go back and build upon what made it good.
>>317851668
>metroid fusion sequel can be released at any time
>unreleased metroid game for 3DS
I don't see it anon
>>317852078
>Metroid fags are the most entitled assholes ever.
Yet people are still complaining about the new star fox, saying it looks like shit and dissing the chicken space ship. Despite the fact that it looks like a great game. They complain about one blue fox ruining their game, well how about the main character of their game gets sexualized in a blue suit? The only thing keeping metroid relevant anymore is a zero suit fap. If the franchise dies I'll be fine with it, let it rest in peace.
>>317846587
I'm fine with that, I hope we get Metroid 5 from the REAL developers of the series at EPD in Kyoto.
>>317851378
>Should Nintendo shift gears?
It's more like they want to shift gears regardless of what their international fans say, since the Nips have such shit & low standards to begin with. The recent surge of popularity for FE is proof that they'll eat anything up as long as its mobile/handheld and has excessive waifu pandering shit.
You can clearly see this happening with recent downhill trend of the Zelda IP. They're literally turning their once- golden goose franchise into trash now because they're desperately trying to nab that Nip audience for it, even if it's slowly killing the western appeal in return. (which is where the series shines in terms of sales)
Excessive Toon Link shit because Toon Link is popular over there, OoT3D and MM3D on handhelds, SS's linear handholding and animu highschool plot, Hyrule Warriors being a blatant attempt to attract Japanese otaku/gamers with all of the excessive waifu pandering in it, Zelda U looking like a Princess Mononoke knockoff, and now Linkle - which was solely added in to appeal to long term Japanese otaku and fans of the series.
Though I also blame this partially on Iwata not having a single fucking clue about western gaming or the standards that apply over here, and just hiring a yes-man like Reggie to take it all in without any sense of backbone. At least Yamauchi was smart enough to realize that western gamers have different interests and standards, and was willing to hire Howard Lincoln to reflect that mentality.
>>317852105
FUCK YOU 2D > 3D BITCH!
>>317852425
I wish there was a sequel to Metroid Fusion.
And there were plans for one. But much scarier.
>>317852425
Nintendo can go fuck themselves for never making a sequel to this.
>>317852862
>my nigtroid
>>317852078
>Metroid fags are the most entitled assholes ever.
Not really. That would be Mario and Pokemon fags now. They always get what they want (more of the same,) and rather frequently too, since they continue to sell so damn well.
You're not a Metroid fag by any means, but let's assume that your favorite Nintendo IP gets a fucking shitty game after 4+ years of waiting, then you have to wait another 4 years for an equally shitty game that looks like it completely abandons its roots in favor of attracting a completely different target audience? How would you feel?
>>317852862
I'm not saying that, I 'm saying you faggots do not fucking deserve another Metroid game, you would just reject it anyway.
>>317853003
>muh gayda
>>317853087
Well what do you expect? Federation Force looks like a Mii Plaza game that they decided to slap the metroid logo on to boost sales.
>>317852671
Yes.
Western 'standards'. IE put every woman in a burka, a man jaw, and act like parodies of men because femininity is apparently weak
Fuck western standards.
>>317853087
& you nintendrones don't deserve shit. You never speak out when Nintendo fucks over your franchises like us Metroid fans & you constantly suck Nintendo's dicks.
>>317850049
That 8 year hiatus was a mistake that the series will never recover from.
>>317853219
You also deserved that.
>>317853289
But Super and Prime are two of the best games of all time
>>317853289
This. Just like that 5 year spin-off cycle killed Halo my other favorite franchise.
>>317853274
Go fuck yourselve I've been objecting towards FE's worsen design choices since fucking Awakening got revealed.
>>317852078
>half-life 3 comes out and its shit
>all physics and fps mechanics are replaced with a completely on-rails shooter where you can't die
>shitty anime drama forced on you throughout the entire game
>gordon freeman reconed into a babbling schoolgirl with daddy issues
>five years pass with not even a peep from valve
>people starting to wonder about the future of the series
>suddenly: half-life basketball!
>fans naturally express their discontent
"Half-Life fags are the most entitled assholes ever"
god all of you fucking suuck, why dont everyone of you just shut the fuck up for once in your life and stop being such manchildren
>>317851668
>We are the only good Nintendo fanbase all others are shit
Christ Metroidfags.
>>317853087
>company makes stupid mistakes with a franchise, gets called out in response
>IT'S THE FANBASE THAT'S WRONG
Why is it s hard for you to admit that Nintendo made a mistake? It was pretty what the fuck was wrong with Other M and they would have to tread carefully for the next installment but they fucked up instead.
>>317853378
I mean honestly, come on. Its a Metroid game with no Metroid characters in it. How is it a Metroid game again?
>>317846587
that was a good E3
the people who tried to be optimistic and pretend they were excited for Mario Tennis must feel extra stupid now
>>317852671
This this this.
This so fucking much.
>>317851170
>Alis is.
Literally who?
>>317853610
What's important is that you found a way to feel superior to everyone.
>>317851948
It's better to just accept we are never going to see anything similar to the 2D Metroids from Nintendo ever gain. I don't expect them to release it on their home consoles or in their next handheld.
3D still has a chance if they learn from Other M. 2D is dead. It's not Mario or Zelda or Pokemon. It was never a powerhouse and they killed momentum with their erratic schedule. It's Prime or Prime. Don't let any dev interview fool you into thinking 2D has a shot.
>>317846587
Metroid FPS monster hunter is going to be fun as fuck, and i'm going to enjoy it extra hard for every single person losing their shit every time it's brought up.
>>317853582
You go fuck yourself, it goes both ways bitch, you don't deserve another FE since you keep complaining about the shit changes of that franchise. You see how hypocritical you sound now?
>>317853698
Ever heard of Karma? This is Karma, you act like the most histronic bitches, you get shit.
>>317853684
I say what I say because after the years you faggots have been ranting and raving how they have betrayed you how ZSS ruined the franchise how absolutely perfect and important Samus is to the video game culture or whatever, you have constructed an ultra-idealized version that never existed, and all it has to do is err slightly for you fuckers to reject it.
>>317848946
There was literally no reason to slap the Metroid name onto it other than IP-value. It had nothing to do with Metoid or Samus, and was just some shitty gimmick game that they were trying to force but were scared wouldn't sell on it's own. Basically, when all the rumors circulated about a new Metroid being in development, this shit isn't what anyone was expecting.
Inb4 buzzword replies a-plenty.
>>317853828
Hey at least hes a neutral party and not baiting metroid fans.
Although, its sad to know people actually support FedForce.
>>317853758
I hate you.
>>317854023
>I say what I say because after the years you faggots have been ranting and raving how they have betrayed you
Why is it okay when you do the same for FE?
After Other M how bad could it be
>>317853976
Well maybe if you fucking tried to listen you holier than thou piece of shit you see why I think the way I do, supposing you have enough processing power in that autism filed brain of yours to do so.
The thing that strikes me about Federation Force is the graphics. I know Nintendo isn't known for having graphically modern games, but the Prime games were and are fucking beautiful. Federation Force was graphically on par with Hunters, which would have been fine if it wasn't a 3DS game instead of original DS.
>>317847760
I'm a diehard metroidfag and I'd rather let the series RIP in pieces then let it get turned into non-metroid bullshit.
Of course what I really want is an actual metroid game.
>>317854023
>/v/ is one person
I'm not even a metroidfag, I'm just calling it how it is. Nowadays no one cares for metroid other than fap bait, prove me wrong. I'm not saying samus wasn't sexualized before, but that's all she is now.
>>317854134
>Waahhh he doesn't know my obscure video game waifu!
Grow up.
>>317853248
Western gamers have fucking shitty standards when it comes to art direction and cultural&narrative elements, but in terms of basic gaming standards, they're leagues ahead of Japan.
>they want competent graphics
>they want competent online
>tits and ass don't constantly sway them, unlike Japanese otaku
>even SJW shit doesn't sway them that much anymore, Anita looks like an attention whore now, and Hatred and plenty of M-rated macho games still sell well
>their hardcore audience can spot out a good game when they see one
>their lifestyles support console and PC gaming; they don't have to resort playing on cell phones in their free time because they have to catch a 3-hour train drive or suffer from ridiculously pricey electric bills
Meanwhile, Japan
>has a shit lifestyle that DOESN'T support advanced console and PC gaming
>will buy shit as long as it has cute girls in it
>will continue to buy mobile shit as long as it has any kind of pandering crap
>hate difficulty with a passion
>ruined the Japanese gaming industry with their favor of mobile shit and slot machines
On the other hand, Japan does have more dedicated gaming developers, and they still craft amazing gems from time-to-time that trump western devs, but they're fading fast due to the favor in mobile.
No, I still think they will release this game given the amount of time and money that's went into it.
They aren't going to bother advertising a game with that much hate given to it. In an ideal world Nintendo would be taking the time to improve how the game looks and plays but this is Nintendo we're talking about.
>>317854309
How about I just fucking stab you instead?
>>317854389
>>317852068
Could work as a fleshed out horde campaign hybrid thing
>>317854159
Because FE is legitimately fucked with otaku crap while you people kept bitching since Fusion unable to enjoy any game.
>>317854357
>Even SJW shit doesn't sway them as much anymore
But it does sway publishers.
>>317854389
Pssh... What're you gonna do kid? Stab me?
>>317853758
>Literally who?
>Literally
Go kill yourself faggot
Why do people respond to obvious "whiny metroidfag" bait?
>>317854159
Wait until you have to suffer through having so much pointless DLC you can buy a new game, new. Or having an incredibly pointless face rub minigame, or have to buy TWO GODDAMN GAMES to get the true ending, you fuckers got off LIGHTLY with just one game.
>>317854503
Why can't we bitch about both? I hated awakening and now if you want the full FE experience you have to buy 3 separate games. Waifus were a mistake
>>317854503
>>317854632
I'm still failing to see how this is any different. Plenty of people think FE oldfags are whiny babies for not liking Waifu RPG, why can't Metroid fans be mad about mismanagement in their own franchise?
>>317846587
I hope they didn't cancel this, we finally get SOMETHING semi-metroid related that's not Other M and the fanbase flips their shit because it's a spinoff game, that mind you could tie into or lead to a mainline game, but now "I WANT MUH METROID NAO"
Fuck all of you, you aren't Metroid fans, you're parasites masquerading as fans.
>>317851282
not a revival anon, a proper sequel. I think that if you let a third party develop the IP who really appreciated GX and understood what made it great, you still would have a niche game (unless you gave it multiple modes) but they really could make a great F-Zero UX or NX (has a nice ring to it, too)
I think nintendo has it in them. I dont know if they would because F Zero GX was relatively a flop for how high its budget was for animation and voice acting and such, but they've got it in them. They just would need to take great care not to alienate the core f zero fanbase. And with that new "fast racing" or whatever game coming out they know there's an audience.
Because F Zero with next gen grafix, full integrated replay, global time leaderboards, and all sorts of other features you could do (knowing f zero, they would probably make a global bell curve of times and show you where you stack up). They could have classic f zero 30 player online too, although that isn't where the game really lies. It would just be there because it's integral to the story and possible with today's consoles, and would give people not interested in grinding runs things to do.
Hell, they could go Mario Kart and add items for casuals that you could toggle on or off. There's lots of ways they can expand the audience for the next installment which remaining loyal to people who have remained loyal.
>>317854543
Sort of. Not the big ones at least.
>>317854275
The only retard here is you, you bring your two senses here saying we don't deserve anything b/c we're complaining about what Nintendo did to our franchise, but you decided to be a hypocritical bitch & complain about FE. Please tell me how does that make sense?
>>317852078
Go suck a nigger cock. Star Fox fans complain every time we get Zero footage and that is better than anything coming our way right now. Zelda fans like to pretend every new Zelda is the worst thing ever, but they never had anything near a Other M situation. New leaf was only three yeas ago, their franchise shows no sign of slowing down and yet AC fans pretend two spin offs (one half decent) is the end of the world.
Meanwhile we have one deeply flawed game, one shit looking spin off and some canned 2D ideas that could've actually be turned into something the fans wanted. From their better known IPs only F-Zero had a worse treatment. But one huge mistake doesn't erase the others.
>>317854740
Of course you fail to see the difference, you're total goddamn retard. Tell me did you ever had to buy two separate games for metroid to get a goddamn true ending?
A true ending that wasn't even fucking good and somehow was even worse than the previous endings? The most you ever had to suffer in that regard was that crosspromotional thing with the GBA uplink to unlock the Fusion Suit replacement.
>>317852068
It should have been about the commando team that was sent to SR-388.
>>317854963
Fucking This. This times 100.
>>317854721
Because I fucking hate you Metroid fags with a burning passion of twelve million suns that why
>>317851170
>Phantasy Star
>December 20, 1987
>Metroid
>August 6, 1986
Who the fuck are you talking about if not Phantasy Star's Alis?
>>317853881
Yes "2D" Metroid is dead, they never said anything about "2.5D".
>>317854963
>Only WE have suffer its all those other fanbases that are entitled whiners.
Still trying to shift blame eh?
>>317853087
>you would just reject it anyway
Yeah, sure. I would bomb their headquarters if they announced a natural sequel to Prime or Fusion.
>>317854971
>It's not QUITE as shit as my problems, everyone legitimize my opinions and MINE only!
Either stop being a goddamn poorfag or pray that Kaga's SRPGmaker hack won't be a kusoge
>>317854928
Because you faggots got off lightly. One bad game and a shitty spin off, you have any idea how many fucking franchises get dragged through the dirt, sometimes for a decade? You got a ending, you got an open ended resolution, you have you stupid, unearned place in gaming history as laughable as the concept is, was does FE get? Fucking otaku filth
>I will say literally anything if it means I can pretend a petition to stop a game worked
Bad OP.
>>317855087
WOW. I guess we killed your kitten anon.
>>317854023
>err slightly
On no forum was Other M regarded as anything but a horrific mess of a game. It did nothing right.
>OMG THEY ARE CENSORING XENOBLADE
>OMG WHY WON'T THEY CENSOR THIS ENTIRE METROID GAME I DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF
I know /v/ isn't one person but retards often scream at various topics without consistency.
>>317854963
> but they never had anything near a Other M situation.
Yes we did.
>Skyward Sword
>5 FUCKING YEARS of waiting
>for that shitstain game
>3 retracking areas, no overworld, padded up the ass with collectathons
>no sense of danger or adventure, art direction was awful; enemies looked laughable
>as the 25th anniversary crowning achievement
>that they had the audacity to put as the first game in the timeline
>and ruined the lore along with it
Not to mention PH and ST, which weren't all that great either, to say the least.
We weren't quite as fucked over as Metroid fans, but we did receive a polished, overhyped piece of shit.
>>317855328
I will fucking tear out your filthy fucking throat and feed it to you wretched haphazardly bred mongrel pigdog
>>317854781
And you're one of those parasites little Jimmy
>>317855349
I am not referring to Other M you idiot I am talking about the hypothetical Metroid game. Why is it that you are so goddamn stupid you cannot follow along? Are you American? I bet you're American.
>>317853582
They pulled a Pokemon and released two games, one casual oriented other for the classic fans. You come back with your waifu (mostly optional) complaints here when they butcher it beyond redemption and release a garbage spin off.
>>317854807
>F Zero NX
That's a good title.
>>317855425
& you call us bad Jesus.
>>317855429
How so? I intend on buying the game and supporting the franchise I love, not calling for it to be shitcanned like you fuckers, you never even gave the game a chance.
>>317855429
MALE TO FEMALE
>>317855290
Really?!
>>317855640
That is unfucking acceptable, Front Mission had two fully realized campaigns in one game
>>317855571
>hypothetical Metroid game
Are you referring to what we could have had instead of Borderlands with the cannon fodder?
>>317854807
also note that f zero gx was also critically acclaimed and argued to be the best racing game of all time; so if nintendo has it in them, to make a sequel, they need to take great care in replicating what makes GX great. i've actually put a lot of thought into trying to understand it and I think it basically boils down to risk vs reward, and subversion of expectation (the same things exist heavily in Melee)
In melee, your brain is telling you to hold in toward the stage so you don't die, but the proper response is to hold away from the opponent no matter how much to want to hold in. And that takes a decent amount of discipline to do early into the game.
The same sorts of mechanics exist in F Zero GX in the form of momentum turbo slide (holding the opposite way & trigger of your direction), momentum throttling (letting go of A at high speeds turns off your throttle which decelerates you to your max speed far more slowly), and a few other mechanics. Those are at high level but it lends to a large amount of intricacy in controls.
As well, every single technique in f zero is a risk vs reward factor (and is also why VS f zero is less viable; because a single risk can fuck up your run)
rail sliding can fuck up your speed with a small amount of error
suicide finishes save you a huge amount of time but ruin your run if you mess up at all
hell even boost plates are risky at high speeds because when you're momentum throttling you need to tap A on them in order to activate, and if you miss, you're losing speed.
and then there's shift boosting, which literally rewards you for temporarily going off the track with an insane amount of speed. it's like the ultimate risk vs reward in the game.
And that's just advanced techniques; it goes down all the way into the simplest mechanic, which is your basic boost that literally trades your health for more speed.
it's a beautifully elegant design that I think you could perfect on a new console. (comment limit, no cont)
>>317855296
Its cute how flustered people get over this game.
Its objectively shit, everyone else in favor of it are piss poor trolls.
But then again, when hasnt Metroid been a breeding ground for sublime shitposting? Just look at that one spergy anon in this thread frothing out death threats.
>>317855857
Yes yes how many times must I fucking say this you disgusting No Kid Left Behind puke? You fuckers got off LIGHTLY
>>317854971
>Tell me did you ever had to buy two separate games for metroid to get a goddamn true ending?
No because the only time we got two games close to each other was when Fusion + Prime happened.
Your problems are chicken shit, nigger. You are here crying because they gave you three fucking routes. I wish they gave me three Metroid games in the same month, even if they had shared assets.
>>317854546
>>317854023
>err slightly
You like how Shadow Dragon "err'd slightly" and you guys allowed it to sell so shit that franchise had to pander to Otaku to even stay alive?
Explain to me how FEfags didn't make their own bed here, while Metroidfags are the fucking devilspawn that are in no way comparable?
>>317855982
>Its cute how flustered people get over this game.
I love Metroid but I too was awestruck at how autismally people reacted during E3.
What is one more shit game guys? I'm sure the follow-up on a more robust platform will be at least decent.
>>317855948
Oh right, and I totally forgot to mention snaking, which is just another huge risk vs reward technique (you're weaving back and forth on the track for extra speed) that they actually discovered as an exploit in the game in development but decided to leave it in considering how difficult it was. And that's a very respectable design choice.
>>317856025
Spoken like a true goddamn retard, no you fucking don't you want a game well crafted that minimizes assets reused
>>317856161
>what is one more shit game
See >>317853605
>>317854023
>how ZSS ruined the franchise
That's one or two annoying faggots here and tumblerinas. Try again. Before they fucked up with Other M you'd have Primefags vs 2Dfags at most, but even them most people would admit they all had their merits.
>>317856108
I fucking bought that game, I fucking chewed everyone out for not buying it for its lack of supports, don't you fucking try to turn this on me.
>>317856207
Dude, Half Life 3 and Federation Force can't be compared.
You're acting like Metroid has been languishing for 8 years... It hasn't.
>>317855640
>>317856025
You have no idea what you're talking about do you?
>>317853729
This last E3 was probably the worst one nintendo has ever had. Almost no games to show. Anything new was complete crap. Then a month later the president died. Maybe if the NX isnt a shitty gimmick console again they will start coming back.
>>317855751
I will never give federation force a chance, no. If you want to go ahead Mr. Joestar
>>317856325
The last decent Metroid game was Prime 3 and it's easily the worst of Prime.
>>317856301
but so few other people did
You keep saying that what happened to FE was some grand crime but can you really blame them for getting desperate when the market said that they didn't give a fuck about FE as it was?
>>317856173
oh yeah, AND track skips, AND mine boosting. AND the fact that the best vehicles in the game are generally the slipperiest vehicles. there are so many risk vs reward mechanics that the game basically says "do this perfectly and you'll go faster than you can imagine".
And not only that, but the cleaner you do things, the faster you go; which makes your subsequent techniques even harder and need to be more precise. It's an amazing design that pushes the limit of human reflexes and precision.
Okay I'm done now.
>>317856562
>I suffered so EVERYONE MUST SUFFER
woah calm down with that edge
>>317856548
I would have liked some goddamn artistic integrity, I can't even look at those 'designs' they spewed forth in Awakening and Fates without wanting to stab that moronic filth that designed them for having no sense of subtlety at all.
>>317856386
Jaggers
>>317854807
>>317855948
>>317856173
>>317856682
>writing an essay on /v/
there's not even an archive anymore, anon.
>>317847916
You fucking idiot, not giving the consumer what they want is literally missing the point of being a business.
If people don't want the product, why waste time and resources developing it?
>>317856927
I wasn't being sarcastic, you are being truly edgy here.
>wah other m
>wah federation force
>wah ridley no in smash
>wah samus sucks in smash
Are metroidfags the biggest babies?
>>317856562
People don't hate ZSS because they're secretly SJW feminists or any of that nonsense. It's because there should never have been focus on samus as a character in the first place. The focus should remain on exploration, atmosphere, and lore. And the focus on samus takes away from that. It has nothing to do with being a puritan that appalls sex appeal.
It's this sort of bullshit that gave us OM. Likewise in Metroid threads, they now turn into ZSS porn dumps and waifushit. Am I some SJW faggot because I want to have a vidya discussion instead of a porn dump?
>>317849991
Fuck off with you shit taste fag.
>>317856990
The consumer can eat shit for all I care, they are the worst, most dog stupid piles of shit on this planet who would destroy the fucking Mona Lisa if given half the chance to repaint it.
>>317855751
Yes, Im sure Chibi Robo fans saved their IP by buying shovelware like Zip Lash. And Im sure Klonoa fans saved their IP by buying the Wii remake too.
Also, I love how you imply people want Metroid as a whole to be canceled, or assume Nintendo will can Mentroid after canning one insignificant spinoff.
Like I said Jimmy, the parasite was you all along.
>>317857097
That's not fair you're mixing metroidfans in with sm4shfans. You sly dog anon
>>317853729
reminder, its Iwata's last E3
>>317857159
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Consumers are why products like video games exist.
>>317857127
WHAT FUCKING LORE?
You mean that shitty little comicbook now one actually fucking reads? Those American made bullshit tidbits?
>>317857308
That consumers have shit taste, and should be disregarded on the grounds that they are retarded mouth breathing failures.
>>317855393
SS was not that bad. They fucked up with no overworld and the handholding, but the desert area alone is a better game than Other M. The dungeons were tight, plus the OST was pretty great. There's a lot of great stuff in there brought down by weird choices.
>>317855249
Go on, tell me how you had it worse because you hate optional support conversations in FE or something.
>>317857159
>>317857431
>people who buy products are shit!
Is Nintendo supposed to be selling games to a vacuum now? If you want to make stuff that nobody wants, then fine. Don't get mad when the logical outcome of it selling like shit happens.
>>317846587
Literally I don't care. This was a Prime game anyway. Not a real Metroid game.
>>317854221
>After Other M how bad could it be
What if it's actually worse?
>>317857314
Prime, Super, Zero Mission and to some degree Fusion had a ton of environmental storytelling. Instruction booklets and other sources also gave some detail but even without, the environments gave a very clear impression of the history of any given world you were on.
And I think that's really what he's trying to say -- the games focus on characters and story rather than the history and unique aspects of the world you're exploring, which was really the focus of the previous games. Any story was a frame to get Samus on the planet.
>>317857595
I want products of effort, competence, fucking artistic integrity, not this market reserched, paint-by-the-numbers horse shit
>>317857579
>SS was not that bad.
I agree with you, but you'll get crucified for saying that.
>>317849087
The thing that made most people mad is that it was made clear by the fandom that a proper metroid game was needed after Blunder M. Releasing a spin-off probably isn't a smart choice for nintendo.
But yeah, getting so fucking mad for a game that doesn't even look half bad is pointless.
>>317857314
>WHAT FUCKING LORE?
Have you ever played a metroid game?
>>317855393
>as the 25th anniversary crowning achievement;-;
>>317857778
But that's what Federation Force is. Instead of doing what has worked for the series for years, Nintendo is trying to bank on modern vidya trends. The problem with FF is that it is/was artistically bankrupt.
>>317855393
>5 FUCKING YEARS of waiting
What were Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks then?
>>317857097
No, they are not metroidfags, they are the fucking Primefags babies.
They are the delusional retards that think that Prime is the best Metroid, and cry when something is not exactly the same as their shit gameI actually hope that the backlash of FF kills the PRIME series, not the Metroid one. Seriously it would be a good riddance
>>317857778
That's wonderful!
Just be aware that in reality, artistic integrity is not something that is entitled to wanted by consumers, and when your integrity just so happens to appeal to a room of hot air, there's only one outcome waiting for you.
>>317854357
And now that I finally have time to talk to you
All that, was complete fucking horse shit, they run everything, they censor the games, they veto bringing over games, they make shit like Gone Home, and you filthy Americans eat that shit up along side whatever rancid Call of Duty Military Recruitment Whatever game they serve to you on the side
>All these tears
As a true Metroid fan who takes the good and bad. (I thought Other M was perfectly fine and like both Prime and Super Metroid)
You fags should be grateful they're using Prime's Federation Troopers and not Other M's from the amount of bitching you were doing.
Seeing as this is a dickwaving contest, let's measure which franchise fanbase got fucked over the hardest.
Mario: not even applicable
Pokemon: not even applicable
Zelda: the last console mainline game was on the fucking Wii and completely mediocre. 3DS games have been remakes or spin-offs. New game soon™.
Metroid: last console mainline game was on the fucking Wii and a horrible piece of shit. No 3DS games. Spinoff is only news franchise is still alive(?).
Star Fox: last mainline console game was on the Gamecube and was not good(?), although there was also a game on DS. 3DS had a remake. WiiU game soon™.
Pikmin: last game was on gamecube, before the WiiU one, which was was missing half the game. Rumors of Pikmin 4 abound.
F-Zero: Rest in peace.
Fire Emblem: last game was on 3DS, series has been a mix of handheld and console. 3DS game was weebshit pandering with no redeeming factors aside from quantity of maps. A 100% Idolm@s waifugame will be on WiiU.
I dunno, seems like FE got fucked over the hardest, aside from F-Zero.
>>317855290
>Fucking otaku filth
That's rich, you think it was ever different than that. Awakening just revived already existing mechanics for most part. FE was always animu shit as you put it, you just happened to like that particular period of anime. Waifus didn't kill your game, manime fag. Take those rose tinted glasses off. Gameplay was improved from FEA with IF(Fates), the story was never great.
>>317857971
Literal shovelware.
Imagine if the only Zelda game on 3DS was Triforce Heroes.
>>317846587
>Mobile shovelware garbage is cancelled
Good
>>317858151
>You will eat shit and like it!
The fuck I will anonymous. I don't care what franchise you claim to be a true fan of.
>>317856562
>>317856927
Look at this fucking troglodyte, trying this hard to bitch about a fucking videogame
>>317858353
Wow autismo, you sure showed him, idiot.
>>317858081
Yes.
Because the consumers are filthy unwashed peasants with delusions of importance and have to be fucking TOLD that a piece of legendary art is in fact, legendary to even make them remotely appreciate it.
>>317858165
From what I understand though the FE franchise was dying. Wasn't Awakening its last chance to come back? I guess you would have rather it RIP though.
>>317858324
Why didn't they make a 3DS multiplayer metroid? It's like Nintendo hates money.
>>317858353
>pain that was long over due to you
>>317858503
Yes, immensely, absolutely, I would rather have my favorite franchise retire with dignity in tact than paraded to the otaku.
>>317858503
I'm pretty sure a majority of FE fans would rather have the franchise dead and buried, like Advance Wars, just like most Metroid fans would rather have the franchise dead and buried than have Other M 2 and Federation Force.
>>317858324
God. That looks so fucking awful.
I'm laughing my ass off.
>>317858165
You forgot one franchise anon
>>317858324
it looks alright gameplay wise
>>317858624
You should be honored that your franchise has run its course and was retired peacefully, you have any idea how rare that is? No of course not, if its not mass produced without a hint of artistic integrity like call of duty, that's bad very bad.
>>317856186
It's not the first time they reused assets. How is that inherently bad? You honestly think people would complain paying more for twice the length with a few tweaks? Happened with Zelda more than once and it went just fine.
>>317858697
You are an imbecile if you think that the gameplay looks alright
>>317858165
>Zelda: the last console mainline game was on the fucking Wii and completely mediocre. 3DS games have been remakes or spin-offs. New game soon™.
Wut? No. Link Between World and Triforce Heroes are two legitimate tittles of the series.
>>317849087
>It's ok as long as it is Nintendo
The memes are true
>>317858151
>as a true Metroid fan who takes the good and bad
Why is it unacceptable to complain about something that legitimately looks like trash?
There hasn't been a metroid game since 2010 and there hasn't been a decent one since 2007. So after that long of a hiatus, they're going to give us some chibi multiplayer spinoff shit? Other series get awful spinoff trash too, but they also get actual games in their franchise released on a regular basis.
Letting this go through would basically be telling nintendo "yes! I absolutely don't mind if you trample over metroid and make this the new direction of the series!"
>>317858564
Eight years, eight fucking years of you acting like total retards, yes you fucking deserve it.
>>317858624
I forgot several, including DK, AC, Kirby, and Ice climbers, I was just posting the most relevant ones. You will never ever get Earthbound 2. I mean mother 3. Or will it be Earthbound 2?
>>317858775
the original prime games wouldn't let you move and aim at the same time do you understand how big of a flaw that was?
>>317858624
Mother had it pretty good outside of needing a fantrans for its final game
>>317858165
> WiiU one, which was was missing half the game
The fuck are you talking about retard?
>3DS games have been remakes or spin-offs
Holy shit, Lbw you fucking mongloid.
>>317858165
Zelda had a link between worlds.
>>317858324
I'm not even trying to be a wiseass but that looks completely like a DS game 5 years ago.
>>317858802
Triforce Heroes is a legitimate thing? It looked to me like it was a 4-swords spinoff, with 1 less link. I did forget ALBW, though. that was a good game, right?
>>317851628
She's the first human female protagonist. Only Ms. Pac-man predates her.
>>317858909
They also weren't designed to be multiplayer shooter games.
>>317856562
Just goes to show you know shit and ignore everything that deviates from yours gospel. I'm really fucking glad just mentioning Metroid is enough to give you the worst case of hemorrhoids.
>>317858173
There was some degree of subtey in it, there were faniful designs but they avoided overwrought shit like loli dragon in scale bikini and megasized twintails. and the stories, while not good, at least avoided to collapse in on itself, something that Awakening and Fates failed to do. And at least four had the goddamn balls to make the kids grow up normally rather than result in fucking time travel
>>317858943
>Pikmin 3 was about 4 hours total length
if that doesn't qualify as missing half the game, I don't know what does. even western AAA drivel typically strives for an 8 hour single player campaign.
>>317858883
>just wrote the must teenage-tastic posts about artistic integrity and gets off to the suffering of others
>calling anybody else total retards
Yeah, I'm sure you've got it all figured out, buddy, fuck the establishment man.
>>317859103
they were also flawed on a fundamental level with its reliance on locking on
>>317859043
No she fucking wasn't.
>>317858538
That is your 3DS multiplayer Metroid.
Also they're probably reworking it like they did with Star Fox Zero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwq22FN2MSo
>>317858876
Not buying is sending the message to Nintendo 'Metroid is not profitable so don't make it anymore' Before you think that's craft, look at what they did with Fire Emblem and Chibi Robo. They outright said that if Awakening didn't sell, the series was dead. Chibi robo is a dead series now due to sales. So do you swallow your pride, or be selfish and just rely on the games you like and never get to play new ones?
>>317859261
Only if you have the mindset of it being a first person shooter, when in reality it was an action-adventure game that happened to be in first person and the shooting was incidental.
And it was fixed with the trilogy rerelease so it's a moot point.
>>317858928
>hating the Magypsies
Look anon, I fucking hate the LGBT community, but I loved the Magypsies. They represented the trans community without forcing it down your throat like some tumblrina was actively forcing the creator to design these characters and make them act like faggots.
They were in the game, they were RELEVANT, and they were actually funny.Except for Doria, she became a sandnigger
>>317859226
Yes fuck the establishment, fuck the plebian masses who accept second rate bullshit, for the people who accept anything less than the absolute best the person has to offer, fuck this entire culture of mediocrity is alright, mediocrity is not alright, it is awful and should be shamed whenever it peaks its filthy misshapen head
>>317859413
Starfox looks slightly less shit but still looks like utter shit.
>>317859014
That looks like an early N64 game to me. A bad one.
>>317859480
fantrans=fan translation
>>317859376
Then who was?
>>317858353
Objection. There's no pain here, I'll just skip the game. I don't have to live with it, it's not a Other M situation, Edgey-poo.
I voiced my complaints and they can either fix it or shove it. Doubt this FF thing will be getting a sequel.
>>317859117
Just goes to show you how fucking blind you are, you don't even need those goddamn eyes, like you don't need your dick, like you don't need your balls, like you don't need that goddamn mouth of yours
>>317859413
>They outright said that if Awakening didn't sell, the series was dead. Chibi robo is a dead series now due to sales. So do you swallow your pride, or be selfish and just rely on the games you like and never get to play new ones?
That's why its important to voice complaints BEFORE the game is released. If you just "shut up and don't buy it :^)" like many ninty apologized say, then that is precisely what would happen. They'd release this shitty spinoff, no one would buy it, and then the series would die because LOL NOBODY WANTS METROID. Of course, if people do buy it, then it tells nintendo that people want chibi multiplayer spinoffs and would make more of those, so metroid would still get fucked over either way.
The massive fan backlash against FF was literally the only thing that even has a chance at saving metroid. And worst case scenario, we get no more games instead of shitty not-metroid spinoffs
>>317859461
it was a first person shooter and its biggest flaw was the lack of aiming
No they just want to keep improving it
The games gonna be good
It's Next Level Games after all, it's gonna be a fun game regardless of what Metroid Fags say
>>317857963
I never played a metroid game but this image just makes me sad.
I wonder how many people will buy Federation Force
Animal Crossing Amiibo pretty much flopped
