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KF2 FORUMS BANNING USERS


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THEY'RE BANNING PEOPLE FOR DISAGREEING WITH THE MICROTRANSACTIONS

IT'S HAPPENING
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sky is blue, news at 11.

TW has always kept their hugbox forums safe from criticism.

Daily reminder:

FUCK TRIPWIRE
SHIT DEVS
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>>317793274
i got banned too. seriously whos responsible for those sudden microtransactions?
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>posting in the steam forums for any reason

why do people waste time doing this? i'm surprised i'm even bothering to reply to this thread, so here is a smug anime reaction image worth more than you deserve.
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>>317793274
>DISAGREEING WITH THE MICROTRANSACTIONS

I highly doubt that's what you exactly did. Not defending Tripwire but rather questioning a /v/irgin.
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>>317793274
>people actually bought this dogshit after the scandal with the bans before release

THEY JUST KEEP DOING IT

YOU WARN THEM

BUT THEY CONTINUE TO STICK THEIR DICK IN THAT ELECTRIC FENCE AND WONDER WHAT WENT WRONG
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>>317793602
Smug anime reaction images are so last decade, here, take this brand new smug Horus face for only $5.99
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I am going to buy the classic foster skin and i am going to laugh anyone who can't afford it.
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>>317793274
>probably used words like shiill goy and jew
>could have even said nigger a couple of times
>waaah why was I banned

everytime /v/
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>>317793996
This.
I won't put it past them at all to do this, but there's a 99% chance OP was being a flaming faggot.
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And another developer falls
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>>317793891
>Just $5.99
>Not paying $5.99 for the chance to recieve a smug Horus face from a item you paid another $5.99 to acquire
>And making smug Horus face a 1/100 chance

Please, we're attempting to gouge our customers wallets. Not simply take their money.
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>>317793586
Overkill/starbreeze
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the steam "forums" have always been sjws
i doubt it's tripwire im sure it's some faggot mod
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Didn't know KF2 had micro transactions
thought about picking it up but god no not anymore
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>>317794241
>we're attempting to gouge our customers wallets
Its $5.99 for the thumbnail I posted. Larger resolutions may be acquired by paying a monthly fee of 10 cents per pixel
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>>317794481
That's a $10k bonus for you.
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>>317793274
>THEY'RE BANNING PEOPLE FOR DISAGREEING WITH THE MICROTRANSACTIONS
>I'm not going to post my original post because it was just a shit post
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>>317793274
Show us your post fag
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>>317793465
This.

Remember when they said they would ban people for talking smack in game chat?

I was excited for kf2. I put my money where my mouth is and didn't buy that shit. fuck em.
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>>317793274
>2015
>playing shit games
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>bought this because I loved kf so much
>didn't really participate in the threads leading up to early access launch
>never regretted a purchase so much in my life
and the worst part is this was before steam refunds
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>>317794186
Not a very far fall, is it?
For tripwire i'd say this is right up their alley
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>>317794603
No because they never said that. In fact, they explicitly said they wouldn't do that.
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>>317793274
I got gifted they game and even I feel sick.

I feel bad for even having that thing on my games list.
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you should be banned from earth for buying early access games
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found OP's post
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>Microtransactions when the game is fucking Early access with barely any content
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>>317793274
>criticism of the game = trolling

Every time.
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>>317794898
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>>317794885

OP is some slav third worlder?

They're the ones with the inferiority complex to the west
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>>317793274
I was shitposting for an entire day and they didn't ban me
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>>317794898
It has more content than KF1 had at release.
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>>317794753
Now go fuck yourself, you shit-spewing idiot.
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>>317794997
>from Northen Europe
>filthy slav enters the game and ruins it like usual
>call him a retard with my thick Scandinavian accent
>AMERIKANSKI CYKA BLAYT

Every time.
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>>317794885
Suprise, OP is a faggot
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>>317793274
Just went to these forums, just people blowing their lid over something that'd eventually be in the game.

Sure it's quite an insult to add something like this to an 'Early Access' game and I won't be buying this game until it's fully released in 2019, but the artists probably have nothing to do and this would, if nothing at all, increase the production rate content will be thrown out.

Most of these people who are complaining just want to 'stick it to the man' whilst the minority are genuinely offended by the practice.

Take >>317794885's subject for example, made a Steam Group to attack the idea without any valid points other than the ridiculous argument that it'll slow down development.

I don't own the game, but adored the first one and when there are cosmetics in the game, assuming they're not already in yet, I wouldn't be a faggot who wastes money on that shit to begin with.
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>>317795109
>We will revoke your cd key if you do bad stuff with YOUR game

I can't believe we got to this point.
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>>317795459

I can.

Remember; just ignore them and they'll go away!
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>>317795109
I am well aware of the EULA fiasco. The stuff described there isn't just "talking smack". Not that I approve of that either, but you were wrong regardless.

Furthermore, they later clarified that the content of that EULA was just to cover their own ass, and that while KF1 had a similar one, they'd only banned like 3 people ever that way. They explicitly said that they had no intention of actually banning anybody for that stuff.

Of course the real issue is that they very well could, even if they say they won't, but that's separate.
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>>317793274
oy veyyy, goyim we deserve those shekels stop being so anti-semitic.
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>>317794885
This isn't OP.
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>>317795541
Talking smack is literally cyber-bullying.
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>>317794898
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They are only cosmetics and the money helps to develop the game. I don't get why people are so against this. (or is it just a vocal minority?)
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>>317795817
Man, having aids and sucking dicks for crack does weird shit to your face. Explains most of /v/, actually.
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>>317795887
Because they should be free. They're wasting dev time on useless stuff instead of actual content.
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>>317795887
Payday 2 fucking ruined any chance of microtransactions being received favorably for the next like, 5 years.

And a lot of people came from pd2 to kf2, so they're seeing all the signs align for them getting jewed again, imagine a lot of people don't like the practice, but there is also likely a bunch of furious highly vocal posters
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>>317795541

>"IT'S JUST TO COVER THEIR OWN ASSES!"

Sure it is.
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>>317795887
>No updates in seven months
>Game isn't even out and microtransactions announced
Gee I wonder why people are upset.
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>>317795887

>i will be able to spend $4.99 on virtual keys before I can even play as all the perks or fight all the bosses

This is fucking low, even for Tripwire.
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>>317796053
I keep seeing "refugees" from PD2 and people who couldn't handle the PD2 fiasco.

Can someone give me a tl;dr of how PayDay 2 fucked up so hard? I don't play it even though I have it (was gifted).
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> exclusive weapon dlc in killing floor1
> mfw people still complain about microtransactions in killing floor 2
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>>317793274
Can confirm two seperate friends recieved a ban. One of them was flipping balls about it, but the other was actually behaving neutral. The worst thing he posted was along the lines of "people seem very upset, perhaps that could be taken into account and some content gifted to appease them in good faith".

TOPKEK
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People still refuse to admit GG is back?
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>>317797280
pics or It didn't happen
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>>317797239

>phil fish
>adding anything meaningful to the world
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>>317795896

epic post xd
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>>317797228
Extra greedy version of crate/key system, broken promises, skins for guns actually effecting stats, people simply being tired of the 30000th dlc, then add in the normal Internet rage and you've got a shitstorm just waiting
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>>317793274
>Act like a faggot
>Get banned for it
>Cry on 4chan like a little bitch
kek
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I was permabanned from the Battlelog forums for saying that the autobalance plugin was a travesty and that needed a serious revision.

Admins, mods, community managers.
All faggots.
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>>317795109
>pc gaming
at least you cant get banned for trash talking on consoles.
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>>317795109
>7 months
>No one has been banned from the game
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>>317797439
still no fucking safehouse customization
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>>317793996

Shill is only derogatory here on /v/.

The other three would get you a ban most likely though.
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>>317795969
Give me free shit even tho you worked on it. Hey mr burger man why arent your fucking burgers free wtf??? you mean you made this 100% optional item and i cant have it for free aaaaaaaahhhh
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Would anyone like me to crash this thread with trap porn?
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>>317793274
>KF2
>microtransactions

YOU FOKKIN WUT M8??????????????
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>>317797504
Dang, I only got a week for telling someone to kill themselves
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>>317797550
Yes you can.
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>>317797793
>pay for game
>free content

It's like you're being retarded on purpose or something.
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>user score down from 94% to 86% in the course of just one day
collapsing intensifies
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>>317797816
Are you working for Tripwire?
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>>317797825
http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/details.html
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Daily reminder that TW didn't even create all of the items, and just took them from the Steam Workshop. They also projected the game would be out of early access by the end of the year, and they can delete your game because of cyberbullying.
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>>317797825
>he doesn't know
I'm so sorry anon
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>>317794548
You'll actually save money by spending more money!
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>>317797896
No, but if we're going to be angry with Tripwire, we may as well do it with boipussy. Yes or no?
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>>317797228
To celebrate Payday's 4th birthday, Overkill put up this Road to Crimefest event, which was a lead-up to the main Crimefest event where Overkill would release updates. By doing challenges, like killing a total of 1 million cops with the whisky bottle melee weapon, you "unlocked" a cryptic hint for a reward, which would be released during the Crimefest event.

So, the Road to Crimefest ends and the actual Crimefest starts, and the very first day they implement a carbon copy of the CS:GO crate system, except skins can never drop outside crates and they can also give stat boosts. To add insult to injury, the update also contained a weapon "rebalance" with absolutely retarded stats, making most assault rifles unviable and somehow boosting the Deagle brand Deagle to the status of the best weapon in the game. It took like five seconds for all communities to reach full meltdown mode.

For extra amusement, in 2013 Overkill proudly stated Payday 2 would never have microtransactions. Yeah.
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>>317797838
Well, I had a link to a compilation image of all my bans on servers for being rude to people and other shit, so the moderator got mad at me and decided to just give me the good old perma.

nothing of value was lost, I only posted like three times in the forums anyway.
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>>317797816
>thread is actually going places beyond faggot op post
>lel lets shit up the thread with trap porn xd

Go find an SJW to shit up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mId0mJjD6pY
>6) Player expectation that content is easy to create and implement
>someone actually typed this
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>implementing fucking crates for an early access game that was promised to be out of it a long fucking time ago

Have I finally found a dev team more greedy and incompetent than Chucklefish.
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>>317797969
no.
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>Mfw my refund got denied

Only had 7 hours, stupid fucks.
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>>317793610
>YOU FUCKING MONEYGRABBING WHORES GET RID OF THESE MICROTRANSACTIONS OR ILL KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOU DOG AND PEOPLE WHO OWE YOU MONEY!
>Those bounders banned me! They are silencing disagreement, rapscallions all!

Not saying that it happened like this, but I sure am imagining it vividly.
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>>317795124
Sauce
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>>317797909
>>317797947

OH god and I actually bought it, I bought it the second it was available for early access. What have I done.
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>>317797816
>2015
>being mentally ill instead of enjoying this
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>>317797867
Its called optional content to give devs more money and for you to show support you fucking retard. Nothing wrong with a company making money you penny saving jew.
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>>317798180
>Those bounders banned me! They are silencing disagreement, rapscallions all!

For some reason this is making me laugh like a maniac.
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>>317798086
KF2 is supposed to be in EA at least until the end of the year.

Suddenly it was supposed to be out of EA a long time ago?
Are you sure?
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>>317797723
>A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.
>personally endorsing the product... with the pretense of sincerity
I know we live in a time when people might not even knwo what that means, but this is definitely derogatory, as it denotes a deceitful character.
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>>317798286
>THEY NEED MORE MONEY
>BUYING THE GAME IS NOT ENOUGH
ok tw
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>tfw money is all tripwire cares about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8
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>>317797838
top kek I got banned for life on the WoW forums for doing that
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What did TWI do this time? KF1 had microshit so why are people blowing their tops over KF2 having it as well? Is it somehow different or what?
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>>317798342
Good.
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I really hope these frauds go to jail
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>>317795969
>>317797793
>>317797867
>>317798286
>tfw Dungeon of The Endless received free DLC today
You guys can only blame yourself if you support jews.
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>>317798490
what for? Selling a product? where is the fraudulent action?
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they can ban you but they cant remove your review. just give it a shit review because of micro transactions and others will up vote it
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>>317798109
>Only had 7 hours, stupid fucks.

Too bad it's a 2 hours limit.
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Good job buying early access shit.

You deserve everything you get.
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>>317798286
Go to bed Tripware, you're not tricking me into spending more money on you. You promised a finished game by October you hack frauds. Stop wasting time trying to jew more money and keep your promises before your playerbase literally dies.
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>>317798286
>Nothing wrong with a company making money you penny saving jew.
But people already bought the game... How are you having trouble understanding this, or are you still being retarded on purpose? Special Education isn't supposed to be an elective credit, anon.
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>>317798440
the difference is that kf2 is doing it while not technically released

so something like star citizen
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Breaking news: People hate it when you act like a shit poster outside of /v/!
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>>317798583
It's not always absolute on the amount of hours you can or can't have.
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>>317798583
I've seen fuckers get refunds with a lot more than 7 hours
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>>317798440
CS:GO style weapon skin system and TF2 style hat system.

PC-keks have become fucking insane and don't want to spend a single cent extra on cosmetics in games.
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>>317798708
>PC-keks have become fucking insane and don't want to spend a single cent extra on cosmetics in games.

Is this a bad thing?
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>>317798609
>before your playerbase literally dies

Too l8 for that m8
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1 or 2 or 3 or 4?
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>>317798708
>he can't cuϲkpost

Newfag detected
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>>317798583
2 hours for auto-refund, meaning nobody has to look at it. If it's outside of those parameters then an employee takes a look and decides your fate.
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>>317793891
Ugh I gotta catch up with GID
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>>317798583
TW explicitly said you can refund the game before early access is over.
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>>317798440
KF1 had cosmetic DLC, which is an one time payment, gives you a specific bunch of skins and lets them you use at will. This is the Valve crate system, which you should be familiar with by now. If you want a comparison, it's like a 3 pack of specific toy cars vs. a raffle ticket that gives you a random toy car
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>retard mad about cosmetic dlcees that just give money to develope the game

fucking retards, you acting like cosmetic items affect the gameplay
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>>317793274
>>317793465
>>317793586

Samefag alert.

I don't even want to play Killing Floor 2, it looks like garbage and KF1 wasn't even that good.
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>>317798708
It's not about the cosmetics, people are rightly pissed off because it's apparent Tripwire have been using dev time to make this stupid bullshit instead of stuff that's a lot more important i.e the fucking perks and maps
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>v bitches about moderators being unreasonable
>everytime it's because v is being autistic sperglords

Every. Time.
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>>317798927
kf1 also had pw2 dlc

gameplay affecting weapons behind paywall

>B-BUT THEY WERE SHIT WEAPONS!!!

fuck off retard
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>>317795124

What's the source, nigger
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>>317798601
BUT I DIDN'T KNOOOOOOOOWWWWWW

It's not like I pre-purchased something I knew for a fact would be shit like an electronic arts title or Fallout 4. I seriously thought TW would keep their shit together and at least wait until after launch to start jewing us.
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Cosmetics are the only acceptable paid DLC since they have absolutely no bearing on gameplay itself, what are you stupid faggots crying about?
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>>317793274
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD, RIGHT NOW, THAT CONTINUED TO SUPPORT THIS GAME EVEN AFTER IT WAS DISCOVERED TO BE A SJW SOCIAL PROJECT
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I thought we don't care about censorship any more?
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>>317798940
>defending this
If you're gonna try and make money during development through DLC, you may as just use Kickstarter. This shit is fucking cancer and considering the game is lacking content, they're clearly rolling in it already. Kill yourself.
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Yup, KF2 convinced me to never buy into Early Access anymore.
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>>317798940
>I'm a stupid fuck that doesn't know what the situation is but I'll chime in anyway

Fuck off you troglodyte.
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>>317798910
>TW explicitly said you can refund the game before early access is over.
That is the best news I've heard all thread.
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>>317799080
>>317798997
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>>317799080
The game launched in April for Early Access.
Since then, there has been one (1) update.

So you can probably imagine why people are angry that the second update, that they have been waiting for several months, is just microtransaction lottery machine, when there is nearly half of the games content still to be released.
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>>317797504
>>317797838
>>317798428
This is why I can't use any other forums anymore, say anything critical and against the grain and you get banned.

On another topic I spammed refund requests for 2 days for KF2 which I purchased back in june during the summer sale and FINALLY got my refund accepted last night. Fuck TW.
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>>317795109
I should start reading EULAs
And by reading I mean ctrl-f = "cyberbullying"
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>>317799216
Suggest throwing pic related in as evidence.
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>>317799387
You got a link there somewhere?
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>>317799387
Say I were to try using this argument would I just throw that piece of advice into my refund notes on steam or what?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFE2pOImzY
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>>317797858
But you can, except it's account and sometimes even system wide instead of per game basis.
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>>317793274
>THEY'RE BANNING PEOPLE FOR DISAGREEING WITH THE MICROTRANSACTIONS
I'm sure that's all you did. "Excuse me sir, but I disagree with the microtransactions". I mean I think that shit is unforgivable and I'd get a refund now if I could but we all know you acted like a /v/tard spergasbord over there and got the hammer for it. But I guess that's not happening enough for you.
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>>317799387
you'd probably be better off producing a URL for the thread, in the event whomever looks at the note needs proper verification.
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>>317799654
>Posting your shitty maymay videos on /v/

Pathetic.
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>>317799472
The post was deleted at some point.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150517095017/http://steamcommunity.com//app/232090/discussions/0/618459405708087070
>>317799586
Upload it somewhere or throw in that archive link when saying why you're refunding it.
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>>317795109
This part of the EULA was in all previous Tripwire games.
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>>317799654
9/10

they really want that money so bad
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>>317798205
Same, I thought they were going to do DLCs like last time but this is outrageous
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>>317798558
I only said that to find out if there were any Killing Floor shills in the thread and it worked
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>In six months we'll be out of EA
>we know how to do EA
>Free update guys ;-)
>Microtransaction

god im so fucking glad I didnt buy this piece of shit
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>>317799779
It's odd how that post just happened tio vanish. Silly steam forums.
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>>317795459
you never actually read the ToA of any game in the last 30 years right?
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>>317793891
For $5.99 I better get a big dick image size. Where do input my credit card details?
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>>317793274
Well it is a place to talk about the game, and not bitching about it. I would ban them too.
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>>317800516
It was probably deleted before the archive page was generated.
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Leaving this here.
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>>317798428
Well, WOW players are suicidal, so it's a big deal there.
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>EULA flat states they can and will revoke your key if you trigger someone.

>people buy anyway

>dlc in beta/early access

>rip off tf2 hats and csgo skin micro jewactions WHILE IN EALRY ACCESS

A friend of mine offered to buy me this steaming pile back when it first came out. I made the right choice and said no.
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what's killing floor?
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>>317801258
it's like black cock
you see it from the outside and think ew
then you try it once and you're addicted
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>>317797239

Fish didn't create jack shit.
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I'm surprised they pulled this bullshit so early, why not wait for more people to buy the game and then try and jew them?
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>>317798570
> ,、
> ノ ヽ __
> / `ヽ.
> / ヽ
> _ i !
> / \ ノ ヽ |
> \ `  ̄ ̄  ̄ ̄ 、
> \__ ヾ—ァ` ノ
> \ \/ /
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> / ヽ
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Literally WHO THE GAME
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>>317797329

GG never ended. And it never will.
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>>317801710

I assure you, It's not some cunning motive.
They're just THAT incompetent.
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>>317800665
Did you get this sweet oversized unnecessary .png from reddit?
Because I really really like it.
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>>317795109
>really looking forward to rising storm 2
>see this
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>>317801946
RS2 is by a different dev, Tripwire's only got its IP and is the publisher, and thank fucking GOD for that.
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Looking at steam stats, they don't even have a large enough player base to pull this shit on.

Killing Floor is kill.
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Not only that, but they're advertising it. Showing it off as if they expected people to be extatic.
Hey we might not have had content come out in a while, but guys look what we did? Aren't you happy we added this great system?

It's like they're from another planet.
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>>317802120
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Reminder that Valve opened the floodgate for all of this shit and is killing PC.
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>>317794724
I don't know man RO2 still has some heart, even if the launch was a joke.

Cautiosly looking forward to the sequel. I pre-ordered Rome II and never recovered
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>>317795109
I don't see how this is unreasonable.

I don't like dealing with raging lard asses in my games anyway
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>>317795124
Usually I'd ask for source but it made me instantly think that who the fuck would go that much trouble setting all that shit up just for that
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>>317802182
Didn't they add a map or something?
I'm not touching that game until it fucking releases, if it ever releases.
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>>317798910
>>317799387
>>317799779
Thanks for the info!

"Tripwire Interactive have decided to add micro-transactions to Killing Floor 2. I refuse to support such a business model, and would like to request a refund. Tripwire Interactive has stated in the past that they support refunding of their game during the entirety of the Early Access period should a user be dissatisfied with the product. Statements to this effect can be seen on this Steam forums page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150517095017/http://steamcommunity.com//app/232090/discussions/0/618459405708087070
TWYoshiro: "No, once you buy early access you will have the final release unless you choose to refund during the early access period (yes you can do that!)" <-- This one was strangely deleted!
TWYoshiro: "Early Access is essentially a pre-order, and Steam allows for refunds on pre-orders."
I propose that these statements make it clear that Tripwire Interactive does not consider the amount of time spent playing the Early Access release to be relevant when requesting a refund.
Thank you for your time."

Get fucked, Kikewire.
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>>317802006
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>>317802423
Both posts were actually deleted, but the archive link still has the "Early Acess is a pre-order" shit there still.
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KF2 is good mechanically, and it looks better than I thought it would, it just needs fucking content.

Content drought is the only thing stopping it from being a full game.
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>>317802724
Don't you worry anon, you can pay $5.99 (per package) for your chance and all the content you could ever hope for!
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u mad poorfegs??
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>>317797228
Crimefest 2015 update in a nutshell
>Weapon 'rebalancing' update breaks the entire game, rendering nearly all weapons useless except for pistols which now turn Deathwish difficulty into fucking Normal
>Shotguns do less damage than assault rifles used to, assault rifles accuracy chopped in half, ammo pickup rates slashed all-round
>Glitches out the fucking ass
>Gutted mod support in a game nearly Skyrim-levels of dependent on quality-of-life mods
>Promise on release: "We will never introduce microtransactions"
>Promise leading up to the update: "Everything in this update will be free for all users"
>Day Fucking 1: key/crate system which pollutes the drop pool and is only designed to jew people as Valve do
>Also the skins give stat boosts, fuck you
>You can uncrate skins for weapons whose DLC you don't even own, making it fucking pointless because you can't even use the weapon
>Community goes on fucking meltdown, mods going full damage control
>PR head Almir goes into social-media hibernation
>People find out he only has 60 hours logged into the game on his Steam account, having never beaten any map on Deathwish and indeed hacked himself up a few infamies (basically prestige) according to his Steam achievements for the game
>Day 2: no announcement regarding the shitstorm. Have some shitty masks you ungrateful dickheads.
>Day 3 onwards: one new heist, two re-releases, the rest are shitty masks and a fucking jump animation
>'we here at Overkill are working internally to correct what some people believe are mistakes on our part'
>a month later a patch to just fudge some of the numbers around by 10% without actually changing anything meaningful
>3 new sets of crates in just a month, refusing to take out boosts
So yeah that's why people are upset
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>>317802864
I stopped playing that game right around the time that samurai armor heist came out. I didn't think it could actually get worse.
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>>317802864
don't forget about meme masks
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>>317803108
brb buying payday
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>>317803108
oh, what the fuck
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>>317798910
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>>317797239
>Weapons behind DLC walls
>There are servers that enable them anyway
>People with DLC can buy them and drop the for people without DLC to use
>There are servers that have their own weapons
>With the exception of 1 pack, all the others are sidegrades.
>Supposedly they were made so that the people who came up with them would get some credit for their work.

It's wasn't that bad
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>>317803108
>Baitface
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>>317803108
>Baitface with minor alterations because manly tears got copyright on it
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>>317793274
It's just cosmetic you fuckwits.
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>>317793274
>implying you didn't5 act like an underage chucklefuck doing epik trole
I don't even care about this game
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>>317803108
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>>317803354
This guy's such an untalented fag
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>>317802418
KEK
KEK
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>>317793996
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>>317803398
That's Forever Alone you're thinking of. Pretty sure Whynne or whatever his name was has the rights to Trollface.
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>>317803398
what the fuck happened to the short guy?
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>>317802864
>Gutted mod support in a game nearly Skyrim-levels of dependent on quality-of-life mods
This is what hudbabies actually believe
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>>317803332
Also now KF2 allows people to buy in game DLC weapons if someone in the party already has the DLC so it's more convenient.

See: Chivalry sword.
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>>317803575
Stopped posting on /v/ because everyone was mocking him, his height, his family and his awkwardness displayed in an Elvis wedding video. Makes Youtube videos now.

>>317803583
>I sure like grinding a million heists for the one attachment that never drops
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>>317803678
>It's JUSTIFIED cheating!
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>>317803713
>Any advantage your friends have will only benefit the success of the group. - Almir Listo

Keep those helmets flying because we salute you ;) !
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>>317803108
>Meme mask for jumping
>Meme mask for not jumping

Every fucking time.
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>>317803678
Holy shit son

I always thought he was just trolling but he really was a sperg wasn't he

Funny how as soon as both he and quentin left /v/ turned to absolute shit

That akagi tripfag was pretty fun to hate as well
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>>317802281
self bondage is a thing
and its hot
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>716 active players.

Holy fuck, I didn't realise how fucking dead this game was. There's almost as many people playing fucking KF1.

Obviously an exit scam from TWI. They're just gonna milk as much money as they can from the core dipshit fanboys then pull the plug on future updates.
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>>317793274
If you disagree with me you are a troll.
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>>317803915
Eh, I feel it's a spurious correlation. It's more that TORtanic changed the whole board culture where everyone anticipates every game to be a colossal flop on the same scale as TORtanic.
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>>317793586
Considering the fact that Tripwire is making three games at the same time with a focus on 1:1 realistic aspects I'd say they're trying to turn profit. KF2 isn't even fucking finished yet and they already pushing out the door what TF2 took years to actually get around to.
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>>317793274
>Using steam forums
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>>317798425

>Company has to make money to exist
>Company finds easy way to make loads of money

>Customers become mad
>'I don't like the way this Early Acces game has turned out to be'
>Early Acces
>> Early Acces
>>> Early Acces
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WHO /PLAYED A FEW HOURS OF 2, REALIZED ONE WAS SUPERIOR AND REFENDED/ HERE?
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>>317803515
>Trollface
You fucking newfags
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>>317804171
>that text
>tumblr pic
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>>317804187
just let it go, people know the real names just like they know where it came from. i bet 99.99% of them never were in an efg thread.
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>>317804261

>Despises Tumblr
>Uploads cartoon picture
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>>317803354
BAITFACE GONE SEXUAL GONE WILD 2015
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>>317804261
>he doesn't just grab random images of off Google search to shitpost
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>>317804292
>insulting futurama
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>>317793891
9.99™
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>>317804292
Did you seriously just diss Futurama?
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I have like 8 hours in this. Is there any hope at all of getting a refund and ditching or am I saddled with my poor choice forever?
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>>317804335
>he doesn't already have a stockpile of saved images to shitpost with
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>>317804337

>Defending fictional characters
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>>317804187
Coolface coming first is a myth.
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>>317804378
I don't sort so all my porn is mixed with my shit posting images, I regularly delete do to paranoia of family seeing that folder
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>>317804373
Link the web archive in your refund request
>>317802423

I'd recommend requesting a Steam Wallet refund as that way the money will still come back to Valve eventually, so they're more likely to accept it.
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>>317793274
Man, this fucking sucks.
I LOVE Red Orchestra 2, but the devs are giant faggots. I have some very conflicting feelings right now.
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>>317803823
>Get called on his HUDfaggotry
>You must be on Amir's side!
Stay classy
You should talk with vegans and SJWs, they could teach you a few things about arguments
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>>317804450
>uses the family computer
underage b&
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>>317804502
>He isn't nice enough to let his family use his computer when they visit or need to look something up
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>>317804568

fuck off
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>>317804568
my family has their own computers, assmuncher. I don't live in a third world shithole like i assume you do.

also
>implying your family ever visits you
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>>317804487
>Every mod is a HUD
>What is Goonmod

Good job Heister! Have another meme mask!
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>>317793996
.
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>>317793586
Pcgaming
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>>317804568
not him

but they can all go fuck themselves with a cactus.

i havent had a computer virus in over 9 years, im not about to start.

abstinence only.
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>>317804187
>>317804271
what really gets my goat is when people post optimized gif dude in a format that's not a gif
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>>317793274
The moment what are the devs decided to get his high horse about sexual objectification you could write them off.
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>>317804568
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>>317793274
>"trolling"
How about you show us what you wrote, OP, so we can make sure you weren't actually just being a retard.
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>>317801939
Nah I got the unedited image from some 4chan KF thread a long time ago.
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>>317797620
It's because it only applies to extreme cases, which don't occur in Killing Floor 2 because most kiddies have other games to play.
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>>317802423
Do I include the "Get fucked, Kikewire." line?
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>>317793274
The DLC skins in KF1 = Microtransactions

There's no fucking difference here, you permavirgins.

And do you know what the average budget for a game is? And what the highest cost for development is?

First answer is its in the millions. Second answer is staffing.

You have to have staff to make a game, but you also need money to pay those staff, and if you don't have money, you can't pay staff to work on your game, and a game with no content makes no sales.

If you can't see the vicious cycle here, and why the implementation of a harmless microtransaction such as skins is actually beneficial to the project (thanks to the low initial sales of the game), then you don't deserve video games.
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>>317793602
Why do people waste time posting weeaboo faggotry?

Must be a cool thing to do...
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>>317793996
8 posts in and the thread should have been done.
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>>317805614
Don't copy paste my response m8, then neither of us is likely to have the request accepted.
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>>317805614
Absolutely
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>>317805670
The difference is, KF2 is still in beta, and people who have paid for it (or "pre-ordered," in TripWire's own words) won't be getting the complete package - unlike previously promised.
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>>317803678
>Makes Youtube videos now.
Short plays?
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>>317805782
This shitstorm didn't happen with TF2, or CSGO, or any other game with these kinds of skins.

And Early Access means shit can change, to make sure the project survives. You retards don't understand this.
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>>317804647
Goonmod is just a way to break the game's loot system and get what you want, wrapped in a package of small fixes to make it look like a legit quality-of-life mod.

I'm not defending or praising PD2's loot system, but that doesn't mean using mods like that isn't cheap.

And regardless of Goonmod's quality or legitimacy, it's ONE small mod.
Even grouped with all the redundant ones and the HUD ones, it doesn't amount to much.
Comparing it to Skyrim is pure bullshit and that's what I'm calling you on.
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>>317805876
>Break a broken loot system

Nice meme, I like
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>>317798428
>>317797838
Telling people to kill themselves is fucking retarded and usually not appropriate in any situation. I don't see how you can be surprised you get banned for it in a forum with moderators
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>>317805867
TF2 released as a full package first, and was then updated with additional content. It most certainly did not come out with microtransactions before the game was even out.

Once again, TripWire promised a full package for people who "pre-ordered" KF2 once it releases. Now it turns out otherwise. That's why people are upset.
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>>317805867
>That makes it okay
Fuck off shill
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>>317795270
>Disney_cars.png
Lost
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>>317802423
My request was pretty much the same thing, and it got denied. I even had a bit about false advertising, since they said it was "Early Access Done Right" at a time when people were complaining about cash shops and lack of updates.
Valve arent letting us have it, mate.
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>You've been permanently banned from this server. Reason: Disrespecting admins
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>>317806026
>>317805998

If you fags knew anything about game development, its that it changes on the flip of a coin because software dev in general is expensive and difficult to predict.

If you don't like that, go get your refund through Steam. Or just don't buy Early Access games until they're done.

Nothing is stopping you from being a responsible consumer other than your wee shrivelled brains. You can call me a shill all you want, but its YOU who is the one who needs a good look in the mirror.
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>>317806139
>You can call me a shill all you want
Will do!
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>>317793274
Have 14 hrs, couldn't refund it. Last time i played it was barely alive. It will be dead on arrival.
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>>317806139
Dude, chill. I've never pre-ordered a game, let alone supported early jewcess. I just explained to you why people are upset about this.

It's not about early access games changing during development. It's about TripWire assuming certain responsibilities by calling early access a "pre-order" and then not following up on them.
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>>317806192
And amazingly, it still doesn't change that I'm right.

Statements mean nothing in this industry. You should realise that. Look at the long history of people changing their behaviours after stating otherwise.

You'd be dumb to take words at face value. Only money has power.
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>>317806292
>Only money has power.
I'm still not spending it on your games :)
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It's like people learned nothing from payday 2.
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>>317793274
I've been in those forums, I've seen people opposed it it and act reasonable while doing so.

They're not banned, and I don't have to wonder why because OP is a faggot and can't contain his sperg.
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>>317806292
Stop posting Aniki with sadly correct opinions.
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I love when kids forget there not on 4chan and get banned
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>>317806367
I bought Killing Floor 2 long before Payday 2.
I didnt get the benefit of a slight burn to warm me up before the fireball.
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>actually gave tripwire money after the whole RO2 failure
YOU fucked up, you absolute imbecile.
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>>317803108
>baitface
>dawg
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>>317807519
I loved Red Orchestra 2. The audio assets were amazing, and the game felt intense as fuck.

I only stopped playing because of the Quake issue, where the player base is very small and full of elitist pros, and new people are stomped and thrown out.
I just didnt enjoy that kind of dynamic.
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>>317807723
It's still kind of shit compared to the original game.

And regardless if you enjoy the game or not, the launch was an absolute shitshow. You should wait a good while after launch before spending money on a tripwire product, and stay away from early access completely.
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>>317807723
You don't have to be good at rootytootypointnshooty to top the leaderboards though, all you have to do is actually capture/defend points.
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>>317807723
They fucked up RO2, they made it for casuals and it shows. Also, it's generally a bad game (poorly balanced, full of bugs, etc...). I can forgive bugs and all, but I can't forgive they pandered to COD crowd in hope of more sales. Also the maps are tiny meat grinders, even more with that jap DLC, and has nothing to do anymore with combined arm combats from the first. If you actually liked RO2, you're everything wrong in PC gaming these days.

Look at this interview a few years ago, he is talking about you, the players he tried to pander to, he even uses the same comparison with quake and what a disgusting casualized piece of shit you are.
Fuck you, because of you the few nice things on PC we had got ruined.
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>>317808361
Dont get butt blasted, lad. If I am indeed this nasty casual you claim me to be, than they failed at their attempt.
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>>317808550
Still, they fucked up the game for their fanbase just to pander to casual crowd. You don't like it ? Neither do I. That's how much tripwire fucked up.
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>>317793274
Wow
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>>317795887
>and the money helps to develop the game

2 PERKS
3 MAPS
7 MONTHS
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>>317798381
TWI said it'd be done in 6 months. All they needed to do was bugfixing, balancing and content updates. Forums got antsy when 2months and no content so they released Volter's Manor and sometime later Incinerate and Detonate. After that is when Yoshiro kept saying that there'd be a new update "soon™" and after being harassed said it'd be done by the end of the year. Now guess what he's saying.
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>cosmetic only
It's fucking nothing.
Stop hating good games, /v/.
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Glad I didn't purchase this game but it's still a shot to my own leg because before that I ended up buying Payday 2.
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Are all of you literally incapable of thinking ahead, towards the fucking future?

Are you inhumane or something?

It's fucking obvious what all this is leading up to. It's fucking obvious what's going to happen.

How the fuck is that so hard to understand? And yet, people still keep sucking jewwires cock saying "ITS ONLY COSMESTIC".

THINK
AHEAD
YOU
RETARDS
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>>317810894
inhuman*

Seriously though. KF1 had weapon packs, only years after release. KF 2 has microtransactions before it's even fucking out. It's obvious this is only the first step out of a dozen others, eventually being Team Fortress/Payday 2.5
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>people ACTUALLY paid $30 for 5 perks(or was it 4?) and 3 maps
>people ACTUALLY thought early access wouldn't fuck them like it does EVERY TIME
>people ACTUALLY believed tripwire wouldn't ruin the game when they already ruined kf1
>people ACTUALLY thing these are competent devs when they made shit like RO and that shitty dungeon keeper ripoff

We warned you dumb niggers, don't come blubbering about it now.
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>>317810506
That post makes it sound like all the content is done, but they're gating it for no fucking reason.
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>>317793274

>He we've got like 2k players at peak and we're in early-access for months, any ideas on new conten-

>AYY YO MICRO TRAN$ACTIONS

>Well..what about the backlash-

>WE'LL JUST SAY IT'S A JOKE AND WE'RE NOT LIKE THOSE OVK GUYS, YOU GAMERS CAN TRUST US HERE AT TRIPWIRE ;)

PC gaming really has hit an all time shitter hasn't it?

I gave up consoles years ago but the blight still follows, I'm not giving up on PEECEE and I'm sure as fuck not going back to shitty consoleville
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>>317793274
Woah woah woah, hold the fuck up. KF2 has microtransactions now?

What the hell happened? I thought overkill were the "good guys".
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>tfw I don't care about this shit because it's just like tf2(at least before it went f2p)

I get why people are mad, but you should be more mad that they still haven't added all the perks and more fucking maps rather than being mad at cosmetics.
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>>317811956
Overkill didn't make KF. Tripwire did. Overkill made payday, which also has microtransactions.

Every single fucking company is shit now, except a very few select indie companies, like Digital Eel.
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>>317811956

PAY 2 DAY 2

SHILLING FLOOR 2

WOP YOR FUCKING WODS ON THE COUNTAH FOR THIS HIGH QUALITY CONTENT PC GAYMERS HAHAHAHAHA
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>>317812183
>>317812256

>Overkill didn't make KF. Tripwire did.

Yeah, I fucked up there. I haven't been keeping up with Tripwire for a while, so Overkill crossed my mind first when it comes to microtransactions. Shame. I remember when /v/ was pretty hyped for KF2.
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>>317793602
>oversaturate a picture for no reason

Fucking tumblr/deviantart.
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I thoguht they said there WASN'T going to be microtransactions before I bought it? did they do a 180?
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>>317798428
Is this a game? Seems like it.
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>>317812310

Holy fuck that is actual PR speak for "You didn't tow the company line you asshole"

V I D E O M A R K E T I N G & MICRO SALES

BECAUSE WE DONT DO GAMES ANYMORE :D
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>>317812310
I dont speak kek
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hahah

where is your god now pcfags?
Don't worry you still have vermintide
inb4 microtransactions there too
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>>317805948

Kill yourself?

seriously this world needs more suicides

free up some space for your fellow man and off yourself
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>>317812557
Vermintide would be good if it weren't optimized like shit ass and actually had a playerbase.
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>>317810694

repeating this after it's been disproven countless times across plethora's of mediums

when you say this shit? this shit you just typed up thinking you were so smug? you arn't. infact you just instantly outed yourself as a brain dead cock sucker.

so fuck off and kill yourself, or suffocate choking on Tripwires semen chunks, your choice.
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>>317810506
You heard it here. 6 maps and not all of the perks equals a release candidate.
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>>317812780
>>317812557
Considering they are doing 'freelc' I'm a little optimistic. Another optimization patch is supposed to drop this week and around the 3rd of December they are redoing the loot system.

>mfw people are talking about added more characters instead of adding more content
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>>317812557

>Games Workshop

>not going to nickle and dime the ever loving fuck out of you

k
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>>317812901
I'll probably get it if it gets marked down on gaben's christmas list. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
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>>317802241
>I don't know how to mute people
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>>317812925
>GWS
>giving 2 fly diddling shits about how people who paid for rights for vidya operate their market

They got their cut they don't give no fucks. Seriously look at how many shitty games warhammer and 40k have. Their policy seems to be to focus on jewing their plastics and paints while going full hitler on anybody who does related fan stuff.

How bruva alfabusa gets away with his shit is beyond me but I'm thankful every day he does.
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>>317812523
>kek
WAIT WHAT. WHEN DID THEY ADD THAT FILTER?
FUCKING KEKMODS
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>>317812557
the devs said it's gonna get free and paid dlc, i'll be fine with more missions then, because vermintides is fun as fuck but only lack missions amount,
they also said yes to more enemy and character variety, but nothing decided yet
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>>317804292
Why you dissin' Futurama, nigger?
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>>317812557
shut up weeb.
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>>317813302
It's been there since Halloween, and it's not the only filter either
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>>317813302
dumb, new kekposter
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Chucked my refund through, hope it gets accepted.

I already was disappointed with the game but this is just beyond ridiculous.

Only got 3 hours so it's probably more likely.
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>>317806110
>oh you disagree with me, enjoy your perma ban faggot
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Told you.
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>>317797825
>tfw you bought deluxe edition
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>>317802065
>Killing Floor is kill.

Maybe some indie will pick up the concept and make something good out of it.
Especially with the FREE Unreal engine 4
>KF goes back to being a UT mod
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>>317812124
Well, cosmetics came before the actual content.
So, I am really fucking mad at cosmerics.
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>329 posts
>this still hasn't been posted
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baka desu senpai kek
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I don't remember buying KF2 outside of Steam yet it does appear on my history as a Gift/Pass. Can anyone confirm this?
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>>317814838
You were gifted then.
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>>317802423
trying refund with that, now to wait
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What the fuck are you retards complaining about, these are just cosmetics with 0 stat changes. Nobody is forcing you to buy their stuff.

>inb4 tripdrone
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Write them a negative review if you haven't already.
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>>317814990
And nobody is forcing them to release this before another content update, but here we are.

No one gives a shit that guns have hats now. This was inevitable. But KF1, TF2, GO, and PD2 had the decency of being finished games before they pushed this.
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>>317795887
>Number 1 complaint has been lack of content
>Release microtransactions


GEEEEEEE
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>>317815379

Their excuse is that the whole microtransaction shit is backend development and doesn't slow down content. Which is probably true, as art assets are the true bottleneck in terms of time

But it was a retard move on their part nonetheless
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But is it fun? I can ignore all the gay pay for cosmetics shit if the game is fun. I remember playing when there were just commando/beserker/medic/support, did they add my favorites (demo and firebug)?
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It's taking forever for steam to respond to my refund, maybe it's because there are a lot of people doing it?
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>>317815594
>did they add my favorites (demo and firebug)?

Yes, shill. The last update was specifically your "favorites"
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>>317793274
Wow, what a shock. TW is censoring comments.
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>>317815674
>shill
nigga what, those were just my favorites from kf1
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>>317799297
>telling somebody to kill themselves
>critique

Leave that shit for 4chan you fucking retards.
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>>317815620
In the heat of this shit show it only took them an hour to tell me to fuck off. Maybe they're taking yours more seriously.
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>>317815585
Microtransactions are likely done by, or at least in collaboration, with one of Valve's divisions. That's also why they're identical in every game on steam.

Regardless, Tripwire aren't being very polite either. They've released an early access game and they have the fucking gall to call developing the game "free updates".
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>>317815594
Yes, demo and fb are back. But you're gonna get bored fast.
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>>317798495
Can you finally walk where you want or do you still stand in the worst spots
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>>317816168
I wrote something similar to >>317802423
so if he's successful I might be as well. Maybe you can try again?
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I am not terribly worried, but I don't want to support this nonetheless. My refund had been denied twice now with just over 14 hours played, purchased back in April.

Going through classic Steam support, now. Wish me luck.
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>>317816267
why, are there not enough maps?
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>>317816545
Yeah, I probably should.
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>>317815752
Ignore him, he's just mad and stupid.
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>>317816767
Yes. Only 6 official ones and the perk weapon choice is a little barebones. As in each perk only has 4 weapons to choose from.
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/232090/discussions/0/492378806375610473/
>OP making valid arguments
>Dev responds "in kf1 those dlc helped us make more content :^)"
>others respond with "r u even legit enuf to play this game"
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>>317793996
most likely this
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>tfw KF2 was that one horde shooter actually excited about getting
>tfw just waiting for friends to finish exams and shit to buy it
>tfw microtransactions
>tfw nobody wants to get it anymore

good job tripwire, now go fuck yourselves
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"We are unable to refund this purchase to your Steam Wallet at this time. Your playtime of an included product exceeds 2 hours (our refund policy maximum)."

rip
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>>317816979
>That pays for the development of the core game, and profits go towards the next game. Otherwise as we've learned with RO 1 and KF 1 you run out of money trying to support the current game.

Good to know KF2 had an independant budget and development plan. Oh wait.
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>>317816979
>argue that back when they first started making games they couldn't manage money
>now that they are large enough to publish games they still can't manage money
Glad their skills at refuting criticism is on par with their skills at managing the development of their game. I wonder if Yoshi realized he was calling Tripwire retards.
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>>317816979
>Yoshiro goes full damage control
>people are sucking his cock
every fucking thread where someone complains about the microtransactions
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>>317817563
Protip: yoshiro is ITT.
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>>317817612
>>317817563
Sorry, who?
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>>317817762
Tripwire's "community manager" (aka the faggot who bans criticism and does damage control).
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>>317800665
here, use something that doesn't look like shit instead
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>>317817835
I thought he was a "developer". You know, since he spends all his time on the forums.
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This fucker HAS to be mentally challenged.
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>>317818256
"...making....games....cost....money....amirite?...
..."
Hes pissing me off
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>>317818256
Everyone on the forum has been Stockholmed. Not sure why else they would defend these crooks until the end.
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>>317818617
Judging from the quality of posts I'd say lobotomized would be more accurate.
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>>317814885
even linked the dev post to my refund message and i got it refused, wasn't early access supposed to get refund anytime ?
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Can't believe you idiots are still keeping this thread going.
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>>317819228
Thanks for the bump I guess.
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>people complaining about FREE MONEY

literally why
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>>317818256
>Loss Aversion
>Escalation of Commitment
>Sunk Cost Fallacy

Pick all three.
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>>317819334
Its one less stupid post towards the bump limit.

Also what is sage
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>>317819228
Hey man at least our sequels gameplay remains intact.
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>>317819438
>saging with an image
>implying sage does anything
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>>317819403
Because I want to play video games, not roleplay a chinese rice farmer for ten bucks a month.
Because when I come home from my job, which pays me my money, I want to relax and not to see the new batch of ugly out of place meme hats that got introduced instead of more maps, perks, balance and AI fixes.
Because fuck developers who think they can have a pay2play game with a cash shop added to it.
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>>317819541
That's the thing, sage does NOTHING. Even with an image, a change that's been around for years.

>>317819403
How do people make any money off of crates? It seriously can't be as simple as "lol gambling with keys & sell ur big pulls"
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>>317819403
I wouldn't give a single fuck about crate bullshit I can make a few dollars off to buy shitty emotes if they weren't investing time, money and effort into implementing this shit when they haven't even finished their fucking game. Fuck Kikewire for pulling this bullshit and expecting me to gobble it up with a smile.
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>http://steamcommunity.com/app/232090/discussions/0/492378806375610473/
>those people that are not just sucking yiros dick and ignoring op's points
GOD IVE THIS MAKES ME SO MAD AAAAAAAAAA
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>>317819556
>don't want to grind, just want some fun

Microtransactions are there for you, anon.
Just let them gouge you, you're well enough off for to take it.
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>>317819795
>those people that are just sucking yiros dick
is what i mean
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>>317819661
>even with an image
>implying saging with an image ever worked
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>>317819661
>How do people make any money off of crates?

you sell the items you find, retard
>>317819556

> I want to relax and not to see the new batch of ugly out of place meme hats
turn them off?

>>317819779

you do know that people who make 3d models and textures are artists and have nothing to do with programming, implementing or designing gameplay or ai
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I used to love trip wire. Where did it all go so wrong, how can a dev change so much in five years.
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>>317819661
That's exactly how you make your dosh.
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>>317819661
Sell crates for a few cents or trade up
By key when money accumulates
Use on rare/gold
Sell Rare at above market value because retards will eat it up
Buy what you want or continue trading up

Much easier with multiple accounts
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>>317819917
It didn't a long while ago, but it works currently--that much I know.

>>317820059
So it IS gambling?
I don't see how gambling is a way to reliably make money.
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>>317820059
You do know that there are still more bosses, classes and maps that are supposed to come, even post Gunslinger update?
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>>317816265
>They've released an early access game and they have the fucking gall to call developing the game "free updates".


Aren't they calling that shit content packs or something?
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>>317819438
>What is sage

Something you obviously didn't do.
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>>317802423
I played for more than an hour so I can't refund it.
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>>317820184
FREE content packs, hell it's in the game's store logo.
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>>317820184
Yeah. I think it's to specify that its a content update and the "free" label or whatever is so faggots don't have a knee jerk reaction to advertised content updates.
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>>317820160
>I don't see how gambling is a way to reliably make money.

i thought you had a job?

>>317820172
oh i know

what makes you think they wont be coming?
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>>317795887
This

Devs gotta earn money somewhow. Get a job.
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>>317820309
I never said they won't, I said they are taking people who could be actually working on the game I paid money for and moving them to ways to try make more money off me. They won't be coming anytime soon, that's for fucking sure.
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>>317820476
>this post

Triggered.
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>>317820160
>I don't see how gambling is a way to reliably make money.
Then you're retarded. Online gambling alone is a billion dollar industry and Crates/Key terminology is just obfuscation for legal online gambling to get over state/country laws.
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So they said they were going to have all content of their "full" game released by the end of December 2015.

It isn't happening, is it?
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>>317820567
you do know the difference positions inside a game development company?

its not just "game developer"
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>>317820638

If you own the casino.

Not that it matters, KF2 has a playerbase of like 700 people at this point.
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>>317795887
>>317820476
>Said only launch items will be fullcosmetics and post-launch will include gameplay effects
>"B-but muh cosmetics"
Why are all TWI apologists so dumb?
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>>317814072

What's the point of this image, what are you trying to say with it other than Kano's actor was really swole back in the day.
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>>317820713
Yeah, so that means they have a fucking dedicated set of people who develop micro-transactions, and have been sitting around at the company doing nothing until now? Are you fucking braindead or something? Don't even bother replying, the steam forums are better suited to people like you.
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>>317820891
>so that means they have a fucking dedicated set of people who develop micro-transactions, and have been sitting around at the company doing nothing until now?

lmao you have to do this on purpose
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>>317820712
Link or shut up
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>>317820802
Nothing in particular.

I just really like that scene.

Although you could interpret it as Kano being me asking for my refund, "Give it up baby, I've studied all your moves" and then my refund being probably denied
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>>317820971
So where did they come from?
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>>317820712
For all I know they'll chuck out the Gunslinger update and call it done, a December release isn't out of the question.
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>>317820971

Literally every aspect of the game is under-developed, they need modelers to create new weapons, characters, bosses, levels.
They need programmers to create new classes, game modes.
They need new sound designers to create audio for the above etc.

Here's the score, KF2 isn't profitable despite it's giant pre-sale early access shit. It has a tiny player base now from the giant one it started with. This is because TWI let the game starve the death by anemic updates. Updates that they didn't even consider part of the cost of the early access (yes they thought the game was 'good enough' at launch for it's own standalone cost).

So now nobody is playing, and they can't justify continued development. So they're going to bleed the shit out of that tiny core base as hard as they can by producing the lowest possible effort content - an RNG gambling drop system and hats.

It's almost an exit scam.
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>>317821089
Check their FAQ on the KF2 store page.
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>>317811432
>EVERY TIME
I didn't get fucked on broforce though
or grav
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>>317803458
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>>317821192
Don't bother replying to that retard, English is clearly not their first language or they were dropped on the head too many times as a child to be able to understand it.
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>>317798940
> i like the games i pay cold hard cash for to have an extra layer of money gouging incorporated in them :^) .

That said i bet all who got banned cannot converse like a normal human being.
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>>317821260
>So now nobody is playing, and they can't justify continued development

you do know that having more people play KF2 EA doesnt actually increase the money TWI earns


the current playerbase is 100% irrelevant, especially because the game is in EARLY ACCESS and not even halfway done

a small playerbase is to be expected
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>>317814554
this is shit without some sort of context. what is the tune I'm supposed to read this to
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>>317820751

'Had' a player base of 700 people...

I don't think delusional devs and publishers realize that we've really had enough now of this shit.

I realize that these things take months to years to reach delpoyment but I hope this and the Total warhammer drama gets through pretty soon: No fucking more. Fund your game honestly from the outset or go make something else
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>>317821457
Taking that stupid EA tag off isn't going to magically flock people to it.
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>>317821457

>you do know that having more people play KF2 EA doesnt actually increase the money TWI earns

Which is why they don't give a fuck

>a small playerbase is to be expected

Not this small, and you know it
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>>317821505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tS_V65380
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>buying Early Access
>buying a Tripwire Game in general

never again. "Early Access done right" my asshole.
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>>317821646
do you even live in the real world?

or are you actually just an literal retard.
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>>317821457
More people playing equates to more word of mouth equates to more sales. I know I'd play it and recommend people to buy it if they actually added content at a pace that wasn't fucking once every 6 months.
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>>317821505
The youtube link above it.

Collapsing by Demon Hunter
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>>317821089
> >>317810506


>It'll be done in 6 months, we just need to do general bug-fixing, balancing and content updates
>It'll be done by year's end, just need some QA work and balancing
>It'll be done some time next year, we've got a lot of content planned for years to come and our Microtransactions Done right ™ will insure quality and efficiency in all our work and guarantee more content
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>>317821727
I know how you feel. If RS2 burns me even though its a completely different dev I doubt I'll ever touch a Tripwire product again.
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>>317821457

700 people is unprofitable, at least from the perspective of continued updates.

Used to be they could release DLC packs to get some more revenue and keep the game going, but so few people play KF2 now, DLC won't do, you need to milk a tiny playerbase 10x harder.

The cost of continued development in early access was more than the profit they made in the early access sales. I'm guessing because TWI is borderline incompetent. Since 2 maps and 2 classes doesn't take 7 months of work.

Really, the best bet they have right now is to go F2P and hope for the best.
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>>317821667
>Not this small, and you know it

dude. i know very well about game development.

Why would anyone play an unfinished game for that long when they have all the time in the world to play it when it is finished?

expecting a huge playerbase at the start is actually grand delusion.

(its still larger than KF1 had at launch)
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>>317821731
It's not happening. KF2 was built upon sequel hype and hit the ground running. This dry spell mixed with the DLC bullshit has doomed this game to fail.
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>>317821896
>700 people is unprofitable

good thing that KF2 EA sold more than 700 times.

and the current playerbase is, once again, 100% irrelevant since this is not a monthly subscription game.

>but so few people play KF2 now, DLC won't do, you need to milk a tiny playerbase 10x harder.
stop asspulling thins out of your literal ass.

>The cost of continued development in early access was more than the profit they made in the early access sales

more asspulling of facts

>Really, the best bet they have right now is to go F2P and hope for the best.

you should be a business adviser
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>>317793274
>a bunch of autistic retards constantly flame steam boards for microtransactions like a middle schooler
>relentlessly post about it on the forums
>refuse to see any reason when responded to by devs
>flame devs
>get banned

wtf??
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>>317793274
Stop playing kf2?
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>>317822319
>>refuse to see any reason when responded to by devs
7 months
1 "content update pack"
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>>317821912
>>317822171
Please learn English and grammar. I cannot take someone who speaks like a 13 year old seriously.

How do you suppose TW is going to continue making a profit off of KF2 when they are driving away whatever player base they have and are also driving away any potential buyers they have as well?
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>>317822319
Spot the Valvedrone
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>>317822171

You are so out of touch, let me take a step back, because you're about 5 years behind TWI's business model.

Fucking christ, here's the kindergarten version, especially for you.

TWI needs that playerbase because the way they continued to derive income from KF1 was from DLC weapon packs, skin packs, seasonal updates. Having a sizable playerbase is needed because you need to keep attention on the game over an extended period. You gain a decent amount of money and attention from a 'halloween' update event, despite the development costs because a certain amount of people will pay for the overpriced skins and weapons.

This has two benefits - DLC packs can continue the life of the game for lower development cost, and it keeps attention on the game for a longer time, meaning you don't need to leverage and risk a full blown new release every year.

This has a requirement of keeping the playerbase sizable, you do this with updates and regular content. You can combine this with making the game F2P eventually and adding a cash shop. You can keep a game profitable and long lasting in this way for decades.

E.g. TF2.

What you can't do, you blithering bumblefuck, is take a game that's near dead and try to squeeze some last few dollars out of 700 active players, the transition won't work.

There's almost as many people playing fucking KF1 as there are people playing KF2. That's how badly KF2 has been botched.
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>>317820476
they earned it already, eat shit
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>>317822319
Microtransactions suck in games and should be resisted at all costs.

That said, theres a reason nobody of these 'banned' posters post a screenshot of their comment on steam, cause they acted like raging idiots obviously, and posting what they wrote would invalidate their outrage.
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>>317820609
pictures like that make me feel bad. please dont post them
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>>317821828
Please post more Ana.
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>>317811558
Probably loads of bugs to fix, but even then they seem to be slow to do it.
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>Mfw there are more people playing 'Fishing Planet' than KF2.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/380600/

Press f to pay respects.
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>>317822683
They done bugfixes during:
Launch week
Volter Manor release
Incinerate and Detonate
"Slow to do it" is generous.
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>>317822469
they are driving away no one.

the outrage is a /v/ overreaction as usual.

>Please learn English
please suck my cock
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>>317823082
I think Reddit would suit you more my friend, give it a try!
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>>317822940
I haven't paid attention since launch week, did the recent I&D update fix a bunch of bugs? Maybe they're pushing them in larger waves instead of smaller more frequent ones.

Again, they're slow as fuck about it and its not an excuse but they have to be doing SOMETHING, right?
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>>317823082
Exactly because no one is fucking playing this game anymore.
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>>317823082
>>317823169
settle down, ladies.
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>>317822571
>TWI needs that playerbase because the way they continued to derive income from KF1 was from DLC weapon packs, skin packs, seasonal updates.


no. as a kf1 player since day 1, i can tell you that the main income comes from SELLING THE BASE GAME.

its one of the most OWNED games on steam.

the dlc packs came WAY later, after the playerbase expanded vastly.


guess what a lot of people already bought KF2 and they will continue to do so as the game keeps getting updated.

As if TWI seriously wants/needs to sell DLC packs during EA to stay afloat


sorry dude but lmao
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>>317823082
I was driven away when I realized updates wouldn't be frequent. I didn't want to burn myself out in the game before its even released. Your argument is invalid
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>>317823082
there's no one to drive away
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>>317805867
TF2 is free.
CSGO allows you to get drops of skins.
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>>317822571
>There's almost as many people playing fucking KF1 as there are people playing KF2

do you think it could be possible that the reason for that is that KF1 is finished and KF2 is still heavily in development?
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>>317823310
>sorry dude but lmao

Not the person he's responding to but I'd like to add: Now there is the mark of a reasoned argument... If that's the quality of the white knights that Tripwire has left (and I was one of them in the past) then things look pretty bleak for that last few hundred people.
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>>317793740
What scandal? Care to elaborate? I bought the game on a sale a long time ago, but i didn't expect this microtransaction shit
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>>317823227
An entire perk was underpowered and useless for months.

In a game with 4 perks that isn't right.
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>>317811831
Time to pick up kniting, anon. I heard it's relaxing.
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>>317823319
> I didn't want to burn myself out in the game before its even released.

SO YOU ARE NOT DRIVEN AWAY, YOU ARE JUST NOT PLAYING IT YET

YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT YOU WILL COME BACK ONCE MORE UPDATES ARE OUT

YOU ARE 70% OF KF2 OWNERS

YOU ARE SUPPORTING MY POINT
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>>317793274
hahaha this is The War Z tier shit
hope valve removes the game from steam and blacklists tripwire
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>>317823425
Yes, but only because KF2s development "cycle" is slower than a kid with downs syndrome.
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>>317823489
In the EULA they can revoke your game key for cyberbullying, ect.

Whether this has ever been enforced is unclear.
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>>317823425
>do you think it could be possible that the reason for that is that KF1 is finished and KF2 is still heavily in development?

Not really. No one outside of a few people working on DayZ really thinks that EA is not a reason to play the game anymore.

People expect it to be incomplete, that's fine, but they will expect to play when they've paid up, regardless of your development model.

I clocked 130+ hours in Kf2 and I got my value out of it but I think it's dead now
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>>317823310

Mate, they literally have stated in their development interviews that they extended the profit life of the game, and funded the holiday events through DLC packs.

This is from their own statements. This is how they made money from KF1 years after it was released.

Check your fucking grammar too. You speak like some third world peasant.

>>317823425

Regular updates. The fact that KF1 still has players this far after release shows how well regular updates and community events keep people invested.
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>>317823496
you mean the EARLY ACCESS GAME that got released so the DEVELOPERS COULD ITERATE ON THE GAME didnt have FLAWLESS BALANCE on launch?


These fucking TWI JEWS
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>>317797389
he provided a lot of unintentional comedy that surely brightened some people's days
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>>317823489

>What scandal? Care to elaborate? I bought the game on a sale a long time ago, but i didn't expect this microtransaction shit

I posted something along those lines on the Steam forums and got told I was stupid for not knowing... I shit you not. It's our fault really...

Of course it is stupid full stop to post in the Steam forums anyway, but you can get a good sense of the 'dedicated fan' mentality.
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>>317823741
>I clocked 130+ hours in Kf2 and I got my value out of it but I think it's dead now

then you are a retard lmao.

why dont you wait and play the finished game when its actually released, lmoa
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>>317823592
>YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT YOU WILL COME BACK ONCE MORE UPDATES ARE OUT
Precisely.

>YOU ARE 70% OF KF2 OWNERS
Probably.

>SO YOU ARE NOT DRIVEN AWAY, YOU ARE JUST NOT PLAYING IT YET
Wrong, I played for 14 hours and stopped because the updates are incredibly slow to be released.

Fuck off, seriously.
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>>317823785
Balancing being one of the reason the game was in EA to begin with.
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>>317823785

>7 Months
>2 Maps
>2 Classes

Game was supposed to be complete by December. Does this sound like a game on track to have a reasonable development time?
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>>317823909

ikr

Cuz I iz dumb for BEElievin Twatwire I guess guise Xd Xd
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>>317823592
>>317823785
I think you need to take a break from the computer dude.
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>>317823775
you do know that the first weapon dlc got released 4 years after KF1 launched.


during that time there were plenty of free updates already.

your implication that TWI needs to sell dlc is flawed since they earned most of their money by having massive base game sales.
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>>317823785
And it sure as shit didn't get balanced despite public outcry until several months later. Good thing microtransactions are on the board now! Fixing Zerker sure exhausted them.
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>>317824136
So why are they selling DLC before the game is even released?
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>>317824136

My implication is that TWI need regular content releases to keep people invested, so there's actual people to sell to down the road.

People have already left in droves because of a slow as fuck release schedule for content, and slapping a cash shop onto the game isn't fixing that problem. The cash shop should come AFTER a regular flow of content down the road.

Why don't you use capital letters?
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>>317823945
no, not wrong.

i am exactly right. you belong to the KF2 playerbase but you dont play it right now because it isnt finished enough.


most people think like that, which makes it perfectly ok that it is currently only being played by 700 people.

because the other people arent driven away, they are just holding out.
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>>317824197
They think they can get away with it now.
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>>317824287
>Why don't you use capital letters?
fuck off retard
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>>317820796
When it gets there, their excuse will be "Sidegrades" just like it was with TF2
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>>317824447

tbqh senpai u shuld listen 2 dat guy xD
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>>317824346
I got a refund. How is in any way "holding out"?
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>>317793274
>talk like a retard
>get banned
xD
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>>317824197
they arent selling dlc packs.

they added an optional economy feature like TF2 has
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>>317797793
>Order burger
>Only the bun and fries arrive.
>"Hey! Where's the rest?"
>"We're working on it, would you like to help us speed the process up by purchasing these place mats or renting some utensils?"
>"I'll wait, thanks. Can I get some ketchup for the fries?"
>"The restaurant isn't balanced for ketchup."
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>>317824346

Except gaining players back after losing them is an extremely difficult process. It effectively requires a complete 're-launch' of the product. It's easier to keep people invested with sunk-cost gameplay and habit than to try and re-acquire those customers down the road.

This is made doubly hard when people left on a negative impression from slow updates and releases, and made laughably impossible when the game has now been wracked by controversy over a cash shop.

How are they even supposed to stay afloat during the development of this content? In 7 months they've produced absolutely fuck all. At the current pace, it would take FUCKING YEARS for the game to have the necessary content to keep people playing and paying.

Honestly mate you sound desperate to feel that people are still going to play with you.

No, nobody wants to play your gay little zombie game with you.
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>>317824549
then you are not the one who i was talking with.
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>>317824606
Oh right, I forgot DLC actually adds content to the game and at least makes the game worth playing.
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I like how people are finding shitwire excuses.

They just made quick bux with KF2, it had most of its sales already, and if they want to keep their company afloat they need to release other games.
That's why early access is shit, devs don't have to pull efforts and yet money on community "good will" to support them. When a product past its shelf life (like KF2, despite not even being released already) and most of the target market has it, you just have to put a new product. I wouldn't be surprised if they make it a f2p (it would be the best model for their game to still make money, with new downladable content).

tl;tr : You all got literally scammed by tripwire and you can't do shit about it because you bought it on a shit store that actually encourages such scams.
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>>317824771
>blown the fuck out
>"y-you aren't ACTUALLY driven away, surely you can't actually be a dissatisfied customer"
Keep trying, faggot.
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>>317824734
>Honestly mate you sound desperate to feel that people are still going to play with you.

implying i play kf2

cmon dude, why would anyone play it in its current state?


still no reason to become an irrational bitchboy over trivial shit like this update
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>>317824775

Valve releases that sort of DLC for free in regular updates in Tf2 and CS:GO. IT costs them money to develop this stuff, but that's how you keep people invested.

People come for the seasonal holiday updates, new maps and stuff, and from that loyal playerbase a good chunk will buy some stuff from your cash shop to make it profitable.

Honestly, as a system it's pretty okay as long as the game is F2P.

I'm not that guy btw, I use punctuation :)
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>>317824967
so how can you imply that you are going to play the game later when you dont own the game

thats not blown the fuck out, thats a contradiction
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>>317822923
>Comparing a shooter to a F2P game about chilling and fishing

There's a reason Fishing Planet has so many players, it's a great stress reliever.
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I'm really considering asking for a refund

I've only played 4 hours so it should work right?
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>>317825319
Probably. Go for it.
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WHO /STILLPENDINGAFTERANHOURANDAHALF/ HERE?
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>>317825319
3 hours and a no for me.
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>>317825097
>you aren't allowed to repurchase
This is how retarded you sound, mate.
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>>317825319
Use classic support, not help.steampowered.com.
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>>317825661
dude you can be only one.

someone who is driven away or someone who will play this game.

you can chose one and only one
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>boycott group has less than 300 members
>more people are currently playing KF2 than there are people who are this mad about the update


kek,
really amazing numbers guys
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>>317825786
>don't play the game, still own it
>you aren't driven away!

>don't play game, refunded it
>you aren't driven away!

So what, I can only be driven away if I still play to this day? Whatever dude, this thread is dead so there's no point in replying to you anymore.
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>>317825647
>expecting a refund that soon
Try 2-3 days.
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>>317825958

>really amazing numbers guys

Boasting about Kf2 player numbers. Are you being ironic here?

I'm done anyway.
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>>317798109
try again make your case better and lie
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>>317825958
>Joining some shitty group to make a point
I just posted a negative review, won't play it and requested a refund(rejected). Dead game anyway.
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>>317825758
I'm getting redirected to help.steampowered
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>>317818256
>>317818489

But he has a intelligence.
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