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Is there a chance now?
Ya, ok fine. I'll give some. Ya got me.
Dick status: MUH
>>317619069
I'm willing to believe anything can happen now.
How many qt brown girls can fit in one game?
>11 days to raise $420,000
this shit stagnated so hard after it got the extension
>>317619069
So even if they don't reach their goal, they keep the money right?
I hope not, the game's fucking shit and the hype won't fit the final product if it were actually funded. It's not new, unique, or even fun at all. DEFINITELY not worth 1.5 Million+.
I don't follow this game. Did they add Shantae?Did they add Shovel Knight?
petrification fetish?
>>317619069
It'd be really funny if the game got funded in the last 11 days just by Shantae fans who are hungry for more of her
If Shovel Knight couldn't save it, I doubt Shantae can either.
Neat, though.
>>317619473
No. They can't have any of it.
>>317619524
They added Shovel Knight weeks ago.
Shantae was just added mere moments ago in a desperate attempt to get more Jewgolds.
>>317619524
Yes, they are adding any indie characters that the devs will agree to license. Toby told them to take a hike when they asked for Sans.
What is this thread referencing? I don't see Shantae stuff on KS.
But why isn't it a finished product yet? Why is this prototype unfinished? This seems really unpolished. A-and Mike Z made fun of us that one time! Brown people! There's too many browns and women!
Oh dude Shantae okay nevermindIf this doesn't get funded then I'm never touching /v/ again. The response it got here was embarrassing.
>>317619473
No. If it isn't fully funded, it isn't funded at all. Unless the publisher feels sorry for them, I guess, and I wouldn't fucking blame them.
>roping in every indie character they can for funding/attention
>can't get funded on its own merits with its own cast/gameplay /etc.
This is just sad
>>317619657
> Shantae
> Indie
>>317619584
good
>>317619069
>"The fuck has this bitch got to smile about?"
>>317619473
I'm worried you're one of those people who shits on kickstarter without knowing how it works. -but nah man, if a game doesn't reach its funding the money is returned to all of the investors.
The real reason to hate kickstarter is they don't actually have a handle on what the company does with the money afterwards, just like regular investing.
Take note folks, not even adding a better brown girl can save this game.They'd gimp her to all hell in this game anyway, I bet she wouldn't even use magic, it'd just be HAIR HAIR HAIR
>>317619069
> Heralded as an inclusive game with respect for women and all that bull
> add a sexualyzed genie with a fanbase composed of nothing but waifufags
Hypocrisy general? Or desperation general?
Asking for 1.5 mil for a game like this was dumb from the beginning now it's going to be filled with silly indie game references if it even get funded.
>>317619762
It is.
>>317619762
Yes. WayForward has been making indie games since like 1990. You simply hadn't heard of them until Shantae 3 and Mighty Switch Force 2 exploded into popularity.
They tried to release a 3D Shantae game on DS and Nintendo turned them down, then offered to let them make Ping Pals instead which was shit.
>>317619657
>Toby told them to take a hike
And to think /v/ called him shit.
This garbage dump doesn't deserve Sans.
>>317619069
Wait, she gets see thorough genie pants and half genie hero doesnt!? What the fuck!
Okay so....why are random indie game characters making cameos in Indivisible again? This is somewhat worrying, like LZ really aren't confident the game can be successful on its own merit
>>317619657
>Toby told them to take a hike when they asked for Sans.
Source?
>>317619657
Thank god undertale is for faggots and want none of that autism messing with my brown waifu harem.
You mad? I'm donating money to this and I don't give a rats ass about the game. I just want all of the amazing porn that's going to come from it.
>tfw Boners from ajna, nana, that Hawaiian slut, and finally shantae to ship with all of them.
Oh god yes
>>317619919
Desperation. The game can be good, but the backing basically needs to break the devs and their principles.
Basically the corporate version of an ahegao.
>>317619919
Shantae is way more that just a waifu game tho
>>317619657
>Toby told them to take a hike when they asked for Sans
source?
>>317619919
> Heralded as an inclusive game with respect for women and all that bull
When did this happen
>>317619657
>things that didn't happen
>>317619813
>>317619736
Oh, I thought it was indiegogo or something, I thought people were branching out now to sites where you can keep the money since KS can be very hit or miss
>>317620063
>a fully playable character in one game
>a partner character with a handful of animations in another with 4x the budget
>>317619967
1.5 was just the initial goal, they have fly planned stretchgoals in the shelf. Lab Zero was really overconfident this time.
>>317619683
Indivisible twitter.
>>317620071
>they're worried the game won't sell without cameos
NO!
REALLY!?
ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS!
If it wasn't for the guest characters Runbow would've sold like shit. This is no different.
>>317619919
> Heralded as an inclusive game with respect for women and all that bull
I have no idea what you're talking about and I don't think you do either.
>>317620202
It is indiegogo, but it's a fixed campaign so they're not getting anything unless the 1.5M minimum is reached.
>>317620129
>corporate ahegao
Looks like I have a new fetish.
Well, they won me over. Good job.
>>317619069
do you understand that 505 will throw the remaining money anyway? it's not the first time that shady things happens on crowfunding.
indiegogo will gladly close an eye on that, since it's one of the biggest crowfunding on their niche website and they'll take money instead of getting nothing and damage their name "games won't get funding on IGG".
>>317620061
More like Sans or any character from that game doesn't deserve to be in Ind.
>have to shell out three times what the game is worth just to get a copy of the game
Yeah, no.
>>317619919
Zone's working on this game. Skullgirls has a million (minus 2 now) panty shots. I'm not worried about Shantae fitting in.
>>317620085
>>317620181
>>317620192
Trust me, if someone from Undertale hasn't shown up in Indivisible concept art yet, that's because Toby said no. He's active on social media, there's no way they wouldn't be able to reach him and ask. If Toby had agreed we would've seen Sans way before Shantae
>>317619967
Supposedly the guest characters are post-game content.
>>317620514
>actually defending Unshillable
>giving KikeZ money
>>317620405
>make a deal with indie dev to give them money if their crowdfunding campaign succeeds
>they struggle to meet the goal even with 60 days
>game likely doesn't have a lot of appeal and wouldn't sell a lot of copies when it's released
Seems to me it's more logical for the publisher to want the campaign to fail at this point
>>317620557
>Game finally comes out
>people exclusively use Shovel Knight or Shantae
I would laugh my fucking ass off.
It'd shove all of their "diverse credibility" down the toilet.
>>317620624
Nice proof faggot you sure convinced me with your hot arguments
>>317620405
If 505 actually does that then I'M going to turn a blind eye to it. It really seems like it deserves to be funded and I'm honestly at a loss for words for how many excuses are being thrown out that it isn't.
>>317620557
Oh, you mind lending me your copy? I'd like to see how much the finished version that isn't out yet is worth, too!
>>317620624
>Trust me,
That's not how evidence works.
Garbage
I didn't even like the prototype and now I'm considering funding it. I have a problem.
>>317620359
that is a pretty lofty goal to attain for a game no one had heard of until the KS happened.
These crowdfunders are draining everyone's money, there is only so much loose change in people's pockets to fund these multi-million dollar game projects. Gamers were already being milked super hard by marketers but now the gamers themselves can be marketers too! For their own shit!
where does it end?
>There are people on /v/ DEFENDING this
This is literal desperation. They can't sell a game without cameos. That's pathetic.
Game would have been funded by now if it looked like this
>>317619069
>Left: not funded
>right: funded
Now put Anja in one of Shantae's dancer outfits and this project will be funded in no time!
>>317619776
>"The fuck has this bitch got to smile about?"
Shantae probably saw Lab Zero beg WayForward to include her. I would be amused to.
Wish she'd get into these circle-jerks sometime.
>>317619657
>>317620624
>Wanting Sans in
>Not Undyne
She would fit a lot better
>>317620680
crowcharts (without taking in consideration last day spike) expect a 1.35m. they just need to add 150k
>>317620791
Go shill your game elsewhere MikeZ
>if this bitch don't shut the fuck upDo they really think this will squeeze any money out for them?
>>317619415
Wait it still has that much left even after the extension? I don't know if even Shantae can save them now
>>317620843
to be fair, they are sharing a prototype publicly, it's not like they're selling you empty promises.
>>317620953
undyne is a good character but sans is a living meme
>>317620648
as much as I think that undertale is a pretty good game, I don't want any of that shit fanbase anywhere near any other game.
>>317620895
I bet they'd make more money out of it with less goal. Now they have to animate every frame and it won't be as good as Skullgirls since they can't make each character as detailed.
>>317621093
Like MN 9?
>>317621034It worked on me
-CAUTION-
Shameless Shilling Thread on progress.
That aside
>shitae
Hahaha if this is real then they are beyond desesperate, to a point of bringing bad characters just because their fandom grew recently. Now THAT is pathetic.
>>317620843
>lofty
>Read: realistic
Just because shitty games can be made for a couple thousand doesn't mean /v/ is suddenly full of budgeting experts.
With all these new characters the game won't be out till 2020 unless they don't include them in the story at all.
>>317620320
Because a shitty infinite runner by a literal nobody is where LZ should look for clues of success.
>>317621149
MN9 had a demo during the funding phase?
>>317620895
>Ghost Police won't have a Jake Kaufman soundtrack because Indivisishill's campaign overshadowed Steven's
>Steven is actively making fan pixel art and none of the devs have even acknowledged him
Capitalism is hot garbage. This guy is the one that deserves the money that KikeZ is getting just from a demo and concept art.
Indivisible feels like those dying sitcoms or cartoons were they start making guest stars cameos or crappy recent jokes in desperation to maintain the show afloat or relevant. I bet these guys would ask Nintendo fot a Mario cameo if given the chance.
How sad. I really hope the guy in charge really get to know how pathetic this has become.
>>317621093
Early Access is not a good trend. Playtesters are gonna be out of work soon since everyone is doing the QA for free, from home
>>317621197
No more pathetic than shovel knight
>>317620895
No, they need to appeal to a significantly more autistic audience with a larger disposable income.
>>317621128
In fairness I'm sure this would get lots more backers if players were given the chance to play as Sans or Undyne, like as rabid as the Undertale fanbase is, they are some of the few fanbases that'd actually spend money to play as said characters
>>317621034
Shovel Knight and his merry pals only gave them +80k. I doubt Shantae by herself can pull in that much.
>>317621272
Or the skate dinosaur.
>>317621265
This isn't Early Access, it's a proof of concept to show people what they're funding.
>>317621279
>No, they need to appeal to a significantly more autistic audience with a larger disposable income.
You mean like RPG fans?
>>317621223
As far I know, no, I was talking about the game being trash and they downgraded everything.
>>317619069
>Boring and lifeless to the left
>Fun and interesting to the right
>Gray to the left
>Beautiful in color on the right
>Never getting funded on the left
>Funded on the Right
>>317621220
I was just naming a recent example nigger, the point remains the same
>>317621128
I think that's why Toby said no.
>>317621345
take a look at muv-luv KS, that's how you do it
>undertale anything in this game
that's a surefire way to not get any money from me.
>>317621150
Fair enough, I suppose. I just find it hard to believe that Shantae would boost it by that much, considering how the kickstarter for HGH only got so far.
>not a single link in this thread
Excuse me while I continue not giving a fuck.
>Ajna (You're probably gonna be forced to have her in the party)
>Shantae
>Rad dinosaur
>Naga Rider
Best team
ITS SHANTAE!
SHAN TAEEEEE!!
>>317621223
No, they hadn't even revealed what engine they were going to be using until later in the campaign.
>>317621379
Oh, you didn't mean to disagree then, you just gave an example of empty promises? My bad.
>>317619069
woah this shit really slowed down. What happened to their momentum?
>>317621212
I understand that their amazing 4000 animated frames per character standard is very expensive
but they could simply do something a little less expensive and more resourceful, games have been made on much smaller budgets than 1.5 million dollars, even great indie games have been made on a budget half or a third of that cost.
>>317621474
for what i tried she looks mandatory and it's gameover if she dies
This game is going to end up with more cameos than original characters.
>>317621197
No more pathetic than being a tripfag in an anonymous image board.
>>317621453
>what the fuck is google
Here you lazy nigger
https://twitter.com/indivisiblerpg/
>>317621345
No, mor elike this:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/23/my-little-pony-fighting-game-indiegogo/
or:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/description.
>>317621474
I really only supported it because of the skateboarding T-Rex.
>>317621453
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=indivisible+indiegogo
UP NEXT
>>317621576
Considering that their original characters are horrible that's for the best.... is what i'd say if this game had any chance of getting funded
>>317621526
An extension gives you time but your project still has to generate interest. You could have all the time in the world, if enough people don't give a shit then it doesn't matter.
I still think they'll push it through near the end, unfortunately.
>>317619657
>Toby denied them Sans
>Implying Sans would be the type to voluntarily assist anyone
Nigga would be in briefly, see Ajna, turn 360º and float through the ceiling.
>>317621646
Wow it looks like garbage. People give this people money?
>>317621427
>>317621415
I agree that Toby said that thing that he didn't fucking say.
>>317621453
https://twitter.com/IndivisibleRPG/status/668896495177977857
>I don't know how to use a keyboard and a search engine, please feed me
>>317621694
Have Quote or Curly cameoed in other games with permission from Pixel? I'd be surprised if there were any Western games, AAA or indie, that had Pixel's blessing.
>>317621339
Proof of concept is the piece of paper a dev hands to their boss to tell them "we need money to make this"
if you hand your proof of concept to the customer then it's "Early Access"
not that i am implying i don't get why it's like this. it's just kind of a fucking mess that our industry has turned into a self-fueling machine, laying down hundreds, even tens of thousands, based on version 0.1 of a game
>>317620949
Nobody cares about TBP
>Dragon's crown
>Persona
>Neptunia
That's your audience, Lab Zero
If anything. You needed lots more girls like Shantae in there.
>>317621525
Nah, in fact I didn't donated because they didn't have problems with the campaign, but then I saw all the problems, the downgrade.
So i said "Screw this game", but then I saw Ind. and said "This is better", but sadly looks like people are so stupid that they like to be raped in the face with garbage games.
>>317619069
They're getting so desperate with this project now.
They should've taken the lack of interest as a sign that they should go back to the drawing board.
This game looked like a poor mans Valkyrie Profile, with way shittier art.
>>317621212
the head of labzero brokee it down entirely.
Basically, Super metroid when it was made took 3 years to develop with a core group of around 30 people. In order to pay those people to live at poverty level (20,000$ a year) for those 3 years, that's already 1.8m.
So, considering they want to not be eating off of food stamps, and to pay a much larger staff since obviously their animation is more work intensive and expensive a total budget of 3.5 million is actually really reasonable
>>317620949
she's cute, cute!
>>317621694
nicalis/NIS aren't gonna deal with small indie probably
>>317621694
>Daisuke Amaya emerges from reclusion for the first time in years just to say "I'm not contributing to this garbage" and then returns to the shadows
>>317621709
>Unfortunately
>I don't want this media to exist because it is personally insulting to me
>the madman did it
We got to milk money despite integrity.
>>317621807
They would definitely need his permission, but also NICALIS. They have the commercial rights to the namebase.
>>317621891
They can't, they bet the whole farm on this project and they are completely out of money. So if this falls through lab zero is dead for good. They know they picked the wrong horse but they cant go back and choose another one.
>>317621891
>This game looked like a poor mans Valkyrie Profile, with way shittier art.
Because thats what it is? Its a blatant and lazy copy of ValkyrieProfile with the "we are trying to revive the genre!" excuse to back it up.
i originally wanted them to make it but all the cameos killed any hope i had for it, it wont make it, it stagnated too fast, i thought it would after the extension but nope
>>317621886
what's the problem with undertale?
Also
>using a cherrypicked halo image when 90% of halo's environments are green and colorful as shit
>>317621230
The guy's Twitter pixelart is more compelling than his game's actual art. If he changed the game's art from 8-bit to 16-bit people would be all over it.
>>317621886
This picture it doesn't make any sense.
This pic is not Popular Then/Popular Now
Your pic is Japense versus Western game
>>317621814
It's a debug area where you automatically get your partners with no dialog, defeat a handful enemies, jump around with wall-jump and fight a boss at the end. It's much better than the alternative of not showing how the game plays to customer.
>>317619846
>I bet she wouldn't even use magic, it'd just be HAIR HAIR HAIR
fucking hell, Shantae's magic is the most unintuitive shit ever anyway. every ability she got from Risky's items in pirate's curse was so much better from a gameplay perspective.
>>317621814
But I didn't buy this prototype. I downloaded it for free.
>>317619069
Shantae is nice and all but still: no Vita version no buy.
>>317621807
I think bit trip runner had Quote as a playable character
>>317621526
All the people that were supposed to donate in the last rush donated to get the extension instead. So now it needs to get the last third by getting the attention of new people.It's failing miserably
>>317622070
Why do you still come here?
>>317622000
Amaya needs more jewgold
>>317622175
To shill his MMO character in draw threads!
>>317622093
Your pic is Japense versus Western game
Not only that, figured out, kid, you are close.
I want them to fail so they learn something about proper practises.
But they are going to make it. No, not by legimate means. Few days before the time ends, they will receive a bonus funding from a "generous collaborator" that takes them over the limit. Watch my fucking words.
>Tfw I've already given as much as I can give and it's still not enough
Fuck
>>317619069
Smiling Shantae > Grumpy not-Shantae.
>>317621807
Gang Garrison 2 had a cameo, but its free to play. Also now dead.
>>317622124
He owns a vita.
>>317621891
they pretty much gathered money thanks to cameos and free marketing from youtubers/other indies/any other people with some kind of following
i doubt many people are really interested in that game
>>317619069
Looks good, but I don't want my qt Shantae in SJW game.
>>317622175
I fight for what i like, and i like /v/, and i doubt mods will do a thing, so ill fight shills, simple logic.
Wouldnt be that much of a project if the game project was at least decent tho.
>>317619069
Man they are trying their fucking hardest to appeal to the waifufag demographic.
>>317621891
I'm not accusing them of what I'm about to say, but many Kickstarter projects actually used to gauge consumer interest.
If it gets funded great - there is still no obligation to produce a product if you don't want to. If it doesn't get funded then they've essentially lost nothing because it beats actually making a full game that nobody wants to buy.
Kickstarter has made it completely win-win for developers: if it gets funded you don't have to deliver, if it doesn't get funded you didn't waste your resources making something that wasn't going to sell anyways. Lots of video games lose money because they don't sell, Kickstarter has provided the opportunity to measure interest because unlike large companies, most studios cannot afford to commit the resources only to have the project flop on release.
>>317622124
It's past your bedtime, Liam
>>317620191
>>317620354
Nice damage control
The developers have been on neofag for months talking about how they wanted to make a diverse game about PoC and the evil publishers wouldn't give them funding.
>we didn't want to compromise our artistic vision which is why we went with crowdfunding
>have to beg other indie devs to use their characters in an attempt to get money
>one of them being a skateboarding dinosaur
>>317622010
I'm not insulted at all, I just don't like Lab Zero or crowdfunded projects in general.
Especially when they ask for over a million dollars and just blatantly say that they'll be receiving even more money than that from their publisher once the campaign is done. If the campaign was just to gauge interest, then why would they bother with an extension? Having to extend it probably wasn't the most optimistic sign in terms of interest.
In addition to the game being utterly uninteresting to me I'm also displeased with the entire process of its funding, so yes, I'd really like to see it fail because absolutely nothing about it interests or pleases me.
>>317622270
good joke
but once this fails lab zero will be no more
I would donate only for shantae. unfortunately I have no money to donate.
someone else put in about 15 dollars for me.
>>317619069
They actually did it, those absolute madmen.
>>317622361holy fucking shit I just realized you are that one super fucking old tripfag who avatarfagged that spainish girl
I thought you got permabanned ages ago?
>>317622075
People should be all over it due to its interesting and unique gameplay, unlike Poor Man's Valkyrie Profile over here. But no, these guys made Hot Girl Fighters: The Game so of course tjey deserve the money!
>>317622332
I don't own a PS4 or a BONE and I kinda want to play this on a handheld. Wasn't a problem with skull girls.
Are they spending money to get money?
>>317622270
>they learn something about proper practises.
Yeah, being honest in an industry where honesty doesn't always pay, and that people like to be treated as idiots.
It just goes to show you that being fair with your customers is not always the right choice, you should just tell them what they want to hear and let those who end up disappointed be disappointed, because you got their money anyway so who fucking cares, right?
>>317622118
Not like they'd use that either.
>>317622479
>spainish girl
..what?
also
>super old
..what?
>>317622067
that is hilarious
"hey man on the internat there are lots and lots of people demanding more race/gender/whatever in gaming, let's give it to them!"
i guess they talk but they don't put money where their mouth is
>>317622270
Watch them add a few furry or fetishy characters for dat sweet pandering. The "generous collaborator" is always a furry autist.
At this rate they will try anything to get the money.
>>317622407
of course they're trying to get that sjw money since no one else will even give them pocket change. so they go to neofag in the last weeks of funding and go full on MUH DIVERSITY in hope of getting their money. too bad they still don't realize sjw neither fund nor play games.
>>317620949
>nobody cares about lovecraftian waifu
>>317622398
see
>>317620625
They are actually being super up front about what other funding sources they are getting, which is just if they meeet their 1.5 million goal, they'll get the other 1.5 they need from 505 games, if they don't get 1.5 million on their own, they get nothing.
>>317622569
That's not the image that I wanted to post, whatever
>>317619069
Blame Muv luv
>>317622610
Honestly this isn't even about that SJW crap people try to paint this as, they just decide for some reason to do a Valkyrie style game play project when all the valkre games sold like shit. I mean i enjoy the gameplay but most other normies dont give a shit about a complex system, so its sinking.
>>317619069
>2 shitskin MCs with the ugly brown loli
>L-LOOK GUYS! SHANTAE AND SHOVEL KNIGHT!
>YOU LIKE NOSTALGIC WANKING 2D CHARACTERS RIGHT???
>Pl-Please donate
>>317622359
If Shantae is getting in it you can't really call it a SJW game I'd say.
> muh representation of females
> muh cultural stereotypes about arabs
>>317622569
RACH!
>>317622554
You have to spend money to make money.
>>317622750
>mike z's face when muvluv got a million in half the time it took for them to
>>317622569
MOOT
>>317619069
I BELIEVE
>>317621891
>"Man, I loved Valkyrie Profile, why aren't there more games like that?"
>somebody makes a game clearly inspired by Valkyrie Profile
>"Wow, what the fuck, it's a VP ripoff!"
>>317622843
To bad this game was shit
>>317620063
Wait for ther character models.
>>317622429
It was never to gauge interest. It was to get nearly a third of the funding and for the publisher to actually agree to funding the rest. If this initial goal isn't passed, then it isn't happening. So unless you genuinely just don't understand how KS works, I don't see why you're complaining about the extension.
And I used the wrong language, sure, but not being interested in the game is really shitty justification for wishing it didn't exist. I don't care about the Fallout series, but wishing for it to fail for that reason would be completely brainless.
This is one of the most transparent crowdfunding efforts I've seen so far, so it's a shame people are misinterpreting it. They'd rather see a finished product, because the process of actually creating a game is too granular for them to understand, and they want the product now, now, now.
>>317621230
Mike Z reblogged his tweet to say how awesome it was and Alex Ahad reblogged it too
>>317621807
Quote was in Runner 2 and Curly was in 1001 Spikes, there are probably others.
If you have to butcher your game or rather your original idea for the sole purpose of it being made why compromise it? Grow up an accept you failed and try harder next time
>>317622943
>Why aren't there more games like VP
Said by like ten people ever
>>317622653
>no one else will even give them pocket change
Starving weeaboos would, I don't get why LZ decided they no longer want the SG audience.
>>317622361
>claims to be anti shill
>on /v/
>>317619415
DUDE
>>317623047
Or you could call a shady chinese company to publish yout failure.
>>317623047
There won't be a next time though is the thing. This is their last bid to stay aloft in the market.
>>317623026
>not being interested in the game is really shitty justification for wishing it didn't exist.
Some people are just colossal, petty faggots Anon, that shit mentality runs rampant in this place.
>>317623112
because the SG is problematic
>>317622000
>for the first time in years
He just released a game last year, he tweets pretty regularly too.
>Guys look, black women representation!
>Strong fat mothers representation!
>Amputee representation!
>More black representation!
>Asian representation!
>More black women representation!
>Disformed little girl with giant limbs and fucked up eyes representation!
>And all the indie characters you love!
How about you try to fucking make a good game first and then worry about releasing sixtyfucks characters?
>>317622270
>proper practices
>they should give an unrealistically low goal with basic features as stretch goals
>use only concept art and vague ideas to let consumer imagination run wild instead of working hard on a prototype to give an honest impression of the gameplay
>I want more MN9 and Double Fine games instead of honest attempts to capture what made my favorite games great presented in an original way.
So, as someone who hasn't really been following this project, what is with all the shitposting around this particular game, anyway?
>>317623362
Tumblr boogeyman. Look out anon, you might get cooties.
>>317623026
>This is one of the most transparent crowdfunding efforts I've seen so far
You realize this is why it's failing, right? People don't want the truth, they want to have their balls tickled and imagine something amazing. The endorphin rush they get from hoping for something great is the real prize, how the game actually is doesn't matter.
If people really gave a shit about the end product's objective quality crowdfunding wouldn't exist.
And again, it's not like I wish it didn't exist. I'm glad it exists, so it can fail. Crowdfunding is cancerous shit, transparent or not.
>>317622843
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose reminded about that guy when I hear that phrase.
>>317621814
>Proof of concept is the piece of paper a dev hands to their boss to tell them "we need money to make this"
Jesus, it's like you're retarded.
When devs make games, especially indie devs, they usually make a short prototype, or a short video, to give to publishers to show them what the game is going to be like. If they do hand them a piece of paper, it's usually a few pieces of paper with a bit of what the story will be like, characters that weren't shown, and other things like that so the publisher has an idea of where it'll go.
Lab Zero has essentially treated all of us like publishers, as they gave us a demonstration of what the game will be like, and have been drip-feeding us information about the characters and story. Unfortunately, consumers aren't publishers. They don't give a shit if it will be improved (which is what publishers generally know), especially with a small prototype. Publishers know that depth will eventually be added, and the prototype is generally pretty bare and is only a representation of the gameplay of the final product.
Consumers do though. They care that the gameplay isn't that deep, they care that the abilities don't have a lot of weight, and they care about animations that were quickly done. And most of them won't care enough to do some research once they've finished playing the prototype.
>>317619069
Muh Dick / 10
Hey, it got me upping my pledge when I get paid.
will shantae be able to save their doomed kickstarter?
>shantae cameo revealed
>suddenly, money starts trickling in. more and more each day
>reaches funding goal with time to spare
>meanwhile, nintendo notices shantae can generate moneyshantae in smash confirmed
>>317622328
>Gang Garrison 2
I miss when this was a fotm
>>317621230
That game looked like a nitrome flash game. Why the hell did it need a $10000 sound track? Also mostly digital rewards. The campaign killed itself.
>>317622750
googled that guys, boy he's platinum mad
>>317622442
>I would donate only for shantae
Yeah. If I would back it. It would be for Shantae.
>>317619069
>>317621402
It's funny. This is supposed to promote Indivisible. Yet. It just makes me want more Shantae instead.
>>317623362
It has a brown girl as the main character, it's crowd-funded and Mike Z openly stated that he doesn't like 4chan. It's a recipe for disaster.On the other hand, if it doesn't get funded then EvaXephon wins.
>>317622417
>add fun guest characters made by people you like and respect in a clearly non-canon part of the game
>or turn your mc into generic bald military white guy
>>317623362
tl;dr
>/v/ hates crowdfunding
>the supporting cast is "diverse" (whether or not it's SJW is up to you)
>the designs are hit or miss
>some things LZ did and said months ago
>/v/ needs something to shitpost about
>>317623047
>I'm sure that the game will be mostly cameo characters and nothing else.
>How do I know, you ask?
>>317623426
>crowdfunding is cancerous
>as opposed to the alternative of day-one DLC and shit publishers
Yeah ok.
>>317623362
literally SJW witch hunts.
>>317619069
>>317620917
>>317621402
>Everyone complimenting Shantae's funded campaign.
You guys realize that Half genie Hero was a blatant money grab from an already established developer, right?
You realize that Wayforward was already making a Shantae game, when they started crowd funding Half Genie Hero, right?
Remember when you all accused Lab Zero of having secret financial support from a behind the scenes publisher?
Well, Wayforward already had the finances to get Pirate's Curse developed and published. And still, openly in your face, they asked for money to fund another game.
>>317623223
You jest but I'm seriously curious. What made them take this decision? Are they seriously embarrassed at the SG fanbase?
Sorry, but I'm not a dog. I don't roll over for SJW devs because they put a doggy treat in front of my nose. This game is going to be shit and there's no saving it.
>>317623362
Basically Things that trigger /v/:
>women
>women in the games industry
>indie games
>paying for things
>>317623482
>Shantae will never be real
>>317623615
>Yeah ok.
Because crowfunding games, NEVER, NEVER have DLC
>>317623576
Oh fuck, I need a paycheck to come sooner. I don't want EvaXephon to win anything.
>>317623615
When did I say that?
Unless you're implying if I hate crowdfunding I have to support day-one DLC and shit publishers.
Which is wrong.
>>317622653
>so they go to neofag in the last weeks of funding and go full on MUH DIVERSITY in hope of getting their money.
you've been brainwashed by /v/
you've been memed
>>317623576
>Mike Z openly stated that he doesn't like 4chan
cool, I don't like 4chan either. I fucking hate all you fuckers, but I can't leave.
if anyone tells you they hate 4chan then they're probably okay. it's the people who do like chan sites that are garbage.
>>317623674
Yet /v/ seems to support Half Genie Hero, this doesnt add up
>>317623674
Go back to bed, Mike.
>>317623785
brainwashed into thinking what? that neofag is full of sjw retards? because it's true. I stopped going there a long time ago for a reason.
>>317623512
>Why the hell did it need a $10000 sound track?
Professional musicians ask for professional rates. Those can range from $2-4k, depending on the musician's equipment, the style of music they're requested to make, and any other expenses they need to pay for (like utilities). It's a different league from asking a teenager at Newgrounds to make your music for exposure.
>>317623753Sorry to tell you, but he already won, he's making bank on the attention Pewdiepie gave him.
>>317622706
Well that's nice. Honesty is to be appreciated. Like I said, I wasn't accusing them of anything, but that's how people with less scruples would do it. I'm sorry if the project doesn't make it.
I no longer get sad at all when something that honestly deserves to make it doesn't make it in any part of the world.
We spend so much time pointing out all these suffering small causes, the most vocal people complaining about completely SJW shit, and we never tackle the overarching problem and that's that people have a combination of shit taste and have no motivation to seek out not-shit.
Valkyrie Profile was a great game that nobody cared about. We were too busy wanking over Final Fantasy at the time - Final Fantasy didn't need more masturbation. What we failed to do collectively was ensure that the later generation would find games like Valkyrie Profile, Secret of Evermore, or Planescape Torment. They're going to find Final Fantasy and Earthbound on their own.
Remember to report all these shill threads for spam and advertising.
>>317623608
Son if you think that all these cameo characters aren't a desperate move for more funding I'm gonna have to bring out my char folder.
>>317623649
Yes
>>317623794
people on /v/ literally defend having console-tan threads every tuesday.
I really don't know what kind of world this is that Shantae is considered good enough gameplay to be Kickstarted but Indivisible somehow isn't well designed enough.
>>317623794
No, you are the garbage. Why can't you leave retard.
>>317623794
4chan's a pretty awful place, it's true. And while I get rubbed the wrong way hearing people shit-talk about it, it's very true that you have to be careful about the ones who compliment it.
>>317623997
when did I say they weren't?
i'm just saying that one of those options is clearly more desirable than the other.
>>317622943
But this isn't like VP.
I didn't like VP simply because it had basic 2D platforming and a bit different combat system. Those parts are also more shallow in Indivisible.
The character designs are also very very bad in this game. Only the protag has a good design. They're not even remotely reminicent of VP nor are they of high quality.
If it actually WAS a blatant VP rip-off I would be more interested.
>>317623838
Because Half Genie Hero, while independent, are still large enough to produce professional quality titles. And the character panders to them by being a cute pixie girl that likes to shake her ass.
>>317624029
>Why can't you leave retard
go to another gaymen board and call someone a faggot for acting like a faggot and then you'll have your answer, you stupid faggot.
>>317623649
They just decided to make something different
majority of the indivisible fanbase is from SG anyways so I don't think anyone is being abandoned
>>317624028
Shantae is a solid platformer. indivisible is an SJW ripoff of Valkyrie Profile.
>>317623576
> Mike Z openly stated that he doesn't like 4chan
I don't want to exxagerate but that's a stupid move. Anons can be really generous when it comes to crowdfunding. Just look at Shantae or Little Witch Academia.
>>317623904
I understand that but why did he need a professional soundtrack? The game looked fun but looked flash game. He honestly just slapped a story on a game that would probably have been free online 4-5 years ago.
>>317623576
Actually, he then clarified and said 4chan had plenty of cool people, he just thinks how we call people kikes and shit is dumb.
>>317623838
Because:
>Indivisible is hated for not being sexualized enough like SG.
>>317623934
Of course it has to be Pewdiepie. EvaXephon is the real fucking sellout.
>relying on brown skin fanservice instead of being an actual game
>neets are falling for it
this is even worse than mighty no.9
>>317624227
Damage Control: The post
>I-I'm just donating for Shantae guys! I s-swear!
That's how they do it. It's a gigantic fucking front and they got you.
>>317623576
>Mike Z openly stated that he doesn't like 4chan
sauce? I remember him saying pretty much the opposite.
>>317624227
Hatred is a strong word. A more appropriate term would be "uninterested". The game is uninteresting. Going out of their way to avoid sexiness in the game may have something to do with that. Imagine backing Skull Girls with no sexuality. Meh.
>>317624226
Who besides /pol/ even gives a shit about jews?
And moreover, a good chunk of that part of /pol/ is probably from the other side of the ocean, where everyone's super racist as hell anyway.
>>317624128
>That falcon handler
Jesus Christ that looks dumb.
>>317624227
oh man.....
>>317624276
What about it isn't an actual game? I played the prototype and had a lot of fun.
>>317624226
I didn't know that. Guess he'll never know how liberating it is to refute a poorly made argument while calling the other guy a faggot in the same post.
>>317624337
Nice rebuttal.
>>317624227
>not being sexualized enough
It's enough.
No one at Lab Zero knows how to run a studio or make a video game. It's been that way since the earliest days of SkullgirlS development. Alex Ahad and MikeZ are straight up morons.
>>317624227
I'm surprised SJW don't call out on artists drawing their characters naked.
>>317624128
>The character designs are also very very bad in this game.
It's really hit and miss.
>>317619069
Wait is this actually confirmed? I don't see anything on the IGG page
>>317624358
What do you expect from waifufags, they are fucking retarded.
>>317619069
>even more cameos and tie-ins
Is this game even going to have its own setting/atmosphere anymore? Because it feels like it's got more crossover bullshit than Smash Bros at this point
>>317624358
I think they got a spike in donations when Shovel Knight was confirmed.
>>317624276
Not me. It takes a lot more than a poorly drawn picture of Shantae for me to support this garbage.
>>317624207
anons are also really stupid and think anything you say or do make you an SJW or that you hate them
>>317624224
>I understand that but why did he need a professional soundtrack?
I don't rightly know why he needed it or even how he managed to get in contact with Jake Kaufman in the first place. Much less get in touch with the producers of Starr Mazer and Shovel Knight for cameos. All I can say is that if I were an indie dev working on a game and someone gave me that kind of offer, I wouldn't turn it down.
>>317624207
>Anons can be really generous when it comes to crowdfunding. Just look at Shantae or Little Witch Academia.
fans fund things they're fans off, where they go to shitpost has nothing to do with it. if bozon went on record saying he hated 4chan and wished death upon all who posted there, I would still have given over 100 bucks to shantae because I like shantae. also because I'm not some thin skinned little faggot who gets his feelings hurt whenever someone doesn't like his secret club.
>>317624592
Not much.
>>317619846
>it'd just be HAIR HAIR HAIR
Don't they already have a character like this too?
>>317624227
Bullshit, a female main charcater alone is more than enough for a lot of people to sexualize the game
>>317624207
I respect him for saying it though. 4chan is fucking terrible. Just look at any Indivisible thread. Are you going to argue that he's wrong?
He didn't really refer to 4chan directly though. But he was probably thinking about 4chan when he said what he said.
And it wasn't even that bad, what he said either. It was something tame, along the lines of "I don't like a place where fag is used as a suffix".
>>317624227
Think of it this way, the dumb feminists decided to make their characters as boring and safe as possible and got blown the fuck out, so now they have to steal better designed characters to sell their game
And the best part is I bet they are too into their twitter politics to even realize it.
Feminism is a joke
>>317623674
>>women
/v/ loves women. They jack off to them daily.
>women in the games industry
/v/ doesn't like women like Anita or Hamburger Helper. People like Amy Hennig or Roberta Williams don't get hate from /v/.
/v/ doesn't even really have a beef with Jade Raymond either.
>indie games
Because it's not like we just came from a period where /v/ ejaculate over games like Undertale or something.
Dwarf Fortress and whatnot are also massively hated here.
>>317624128
I don't know how they manage to fuck up character design in this game so hard.
This shit looks even worst than the Sony Smash, it has even less cohesion.
I can't fucking believe it.
>>317624415
Kushi is QT
>>317623026
>It was never to gauge interest.
According to the indiegogo page it is, if that's not true then your idea of transparency is bullshit, so either way you are wrong
>>317624569
go back to reddit please
The reason itss not being funded is becuase its a game that no one wantes, and the scope is too big. We already know that character cost a fuckton of money, why the shit would they not only make 15+ of them, but continue to add more? I love skullgirls but honestly LZ is retarded.
yes yes
we has brown women
give us money to get dick hard
good goy
>>317624775
>According to the indiegogo page it is
this is a lie.
>>317622653
>too bad they still don't realize sjw neither fund nor play games
It's sad how true this is. SJWs have been asking for a game literally brimming with diversity but they'd probably consider it "pandering" so they won't go for it. I find it hilarious that plenty of Let's Players shilled the fuck out of this but not a single well-known SJW said a word about it. Just goes to show you how they'd rather complain than do something about their problems.
>>317624629
You're not funding Shantae. You're funding a bad SJW game.
>>317620129
>corporate ahegao
Is this someone who REALLY enjoys filing TPS reports?
>>317624827
>no one
>17,000 backers
>and that's only for preorders
So is Shantae confirmed or not? I was about to back it but theres nothing on the updates tab about it.
>>317624896
Strong unsexualized female lead.
>>317624716
>Dwarf Fortress
>massively hated anywhere
>>317624546
>It's really hit and miss.
Unlike VP. There are no flat out terrible ones in VP.
>>317624969
Check their social media stuff.
>>317624941
17k is a lot now?
>>317624896
shantae is another indie that relies on fanservice
there's no difference at all
>>317624969
yes, the IGG just hasn't been updated yet.
>>317624716
>/v/ loves women. They jack off to them daily.
Yes, but kids use that as excuse to make something less important.
>> Anita or Hamburger Helper
Again, they are using only the bad examples to make less the game and think that all of them are the same.
>Because it's not like we just came from a period where /v/ ejaculate over games like Undertale or something.
Dwarf Fortress and whatnot are also massively hated here.
But they are using those bad and fail KS games as excuse to say "Hey, that's an indie game will be trash".
>>317624941
Most of those backers are fans of Lab Zero and fans of e-celebrities that are shilling for them.
>>317624879
Ironically, the people who pander to our fetishes get us to respect women more.
Shantae is a silly brown girl who shakes her ass yet she still gets shit done and doesn't give up.
>>317624997
I thought that was Bishamon from Darkstalkers for a minute.
>>317624716
>Dwarf Fortress and whatnot are also massively hated here.
I've never seen this before
>muh indie
>>317624941
If you consider the amount of exposure this has gotten that is a pitiful amount.
>>317623674
I don't get why or how these threads are goon-magnets, is it because Kinucakes is a SomethingAwful goon who is too racemixed to take pride in a culture so she turns to social justice? :0 I can't wait until this game doesn't get funded so these threads can finally die and Goons go back to their containment about to get siezed by the IRS.
>>317620154
>implying
>>317624997
Well the designs were great but many of the characters were total shit for their roll. Like Sou there, looks cool, but he's totally worthless.
It was a pretty big problem in that game, there are like 5 good characters and everyone else is garbage but you have to use them and level them up if you want a good ending.
>>317624997
that's because yoh yoshinari is one of the best artists/designers in the industry and not a bunch of dumb gore porn artists from twitter
>>317624867
Actually, yeah you are totally right
>To be clear, this is not a campaign to “gauge interest”
>>317624896
>You're not funding Shantae
naw, bro. I'm pretty sure I am. I gave them something like $200 for the tier with the artbook along with all the other shit, like a t-shirt.
>chose a t-shirt size 1 size smaller than what I wear telling myself I'll lose the weight by the time I get is
>tfw still a fat disgusting shit and only getting fatter
>>317624716
>Dwarf Fortress and whatnot are also massively hated here.
GET OUT
>>317624546
>It's really hit and miss.
Yeah. It has some decent ones but I already forgot most of ones they have announced. A lot of them just aren't memorable to me.
Having less characters and putting a bigger focus on the remaining ones might have been better...
>>317625242
>I'm a fucking moron who throws money away because someone waves a character skin in front of my face
>>317625150
>>317625110
>>317625026
they've gained most of their numbers over the middle of the campaign instead of at the start, implying it's actually all from people who became interested in the game instead of people blindly going "oh they made skullgirls this must be good too"
remember how /v/ is also bitching that they didn't get much of the skullgirls fanbase by having less sexy designs and not making a fighting game or beat 'em up? well if it wasn't from them, then where did one million fucking dollars come from?
>>317625242
Give it to me, anon. I'm a scrawny manlet.
>>317625208
>Shantae is a bad game
Really the campaign is doing just slightly worse than the Skullgirls one and SG already had a developed fanbase because the game was actually out.
so I don't think they really did anything wrong other than just ask for too high of a goal compared to skullgirls.
>>317620624
> Trust me
So basically you have no proof that they've even tried to add an Undertale character then
Eww it's true. It's kinda creepy how hard they're trying that they NEED Shitae in their game. I can't wait until the time is over and they get 0 cents. Then we have so much materiel to make fun of them with. So much shitty concept art. All the shitty concept art.Too many shitskins in their game to be honest family.
Serious question, anons:
You will back or refund your money ( depending of you already gave the money ) if a Undertale character is announced?
Considering that 1 more character can be announced soon.
>>317620624
>if someone from Undertale hasn't shown up in Indivisible concept art yet, that's because Toby said no
people said the same thing about shantae for the last couple weeks, but here we are.
but i think it's probably unlikely.
>>317625320
>>317625147
Are you really this thick? Re-read my post.
>>317625412
shantae was just lucky their kickstarter happened at a time I had a ton of christmas money saved up. no one in my family knows how to shop for me, and anything I do want I just buy myself, so they just give me cash.
>>317625495
They shot themselves in the foot by being greedy and wanting professional salaries for their amateur employees. Most indie devs could do a game like this for a fraction of the price they're demanding.
>all of these extra characters
unless they specifically planned for them, they're going to fuck themselves over, financially.
To me, this looks like (several) acts of desperation, and if they're promising all of these playable characters or whatever, they'd better have the money to actually fund them (and fund them well).
Even if that was the case, the momentum here is so slow, I really don't see them getting many sales post-launch. I don't know how you'd make a profit from this.
In any case, I'm not backing this. I'm STILL waiting on physical rewards from Skullgirls, and they had the nerve to send me e-mails about a new crowdfunding campaign? Nah. Fuck off.
>>317625424
>they've gained most of their numbers over the middle of the campaign instead of at the start,
You must be thinking in kickstarter, in indiegogo this is a pretty common thing, the bigges pick in the campaign were during the cameos announcements, that should tell you how much people care about the actual game
>>317625586
Depends on what character, if its Sans then no I will not back it. If its Undyne who would fit then a slight maybe.
>>317625586
No, but bring in the Rott instead, give the money to WF and make it a Shantae game instead.
>>317625586
It doesn't matter what characters are announced. The game isn't interesting.
>>317625424
The spike came from after they started to shill other indie games and the pressure of the "last days" came close.
Of course the later didn't became true because of the extension.
>>317625757
Did you contact them about that?
>>317625770
quite a bit since hearing about shovel knight probably only got them to try the prototype which they felt indicated the game was worthy of funding. Them's fightin' herds had a way more stagnant middle even if you ignore indivisible's rush for the extension
>>317620624
So...the regular order of "out of your ass", right?
Does this mean Shantae's even closer to getting into Smash?
>>317625849
>Based in a prototype.
Ok.
>>317626023
Sakurai hates brown girls. (Male skin tones don't matter, he's not gay)
>>317620405
>505games
You mean the same fuckers behind the godawful Terraria console port and Payday 2?
How sad is it that people are more hyped about cameo characters than any of your own? If I were the character designer I'd be pretty depressed.
If this gets funded how much porn? I'm thinking terabytes.
>>317625884
they sent an e-mail out yesterday saying physical goods (excluding the t-shirt and fucking postcards) were shipping "soon".
So over two years and they still haven't delivered shit. I don't trust their management, so I'm keeping my money until they deliver a product this time. Trust lost.
>>317626110
L0 is behind Ind. not 505.
>>317626117
Not enough, that's for sure.
>>317626110
>Tfw we will never get the 1.3 update.
>>317626042
>Prototype was shit
>The devs are basing game on social justice dogma
>The gameplay is literally just Valkyrie Profile but worse
There's no reason to think this going is going to be anything good.
>>317622861
> Indivisible is at 17,000 backers
> Muv Luv is around the same amount with under 8000 backers
Did Muv Luv get some eccentric millionaires backing it or something?
>>317623640
Except what you forgot is that a good portion of PC was reused resources or already in-development material because it was meant to supplement the story for RR, but due to some stupid DSi limitations they ended up leaving it out. HGH is completely fresh material.
>>317626308
They just took their parent debit cards.
>>317626308
They got actual fans that love what they do instead of micro-shekels from e-celebrity communities.
>>317625784
Wouldn't it be, y'know, the playable character?
>>317626113
I'm not defending the character designs, but I think it's more telling that people overall are dumb motherfuckers who crave bland references and cameo appearances (see: Family Guy and Big Bang Theory) than maybe taking a risk on something unfamiliar.
>>317626113
they're established characters who already have fanbases compared to completely new ones with a couple of pieces of concept art. of course they'll generate more hype
>>317625993
>probably only got them to try the prototype which they felt indicated the game was worthy of funding
Unlikable because the prototype is shit
>>317626308
weebs love to spend money. they're like furries.
>>317626308
It got mecha fans, god knows there are hardly any mech games being made..
>>317626257
>social justice
Stopped reading there, try the next time, kid.
>>317619657
Have they asked for quote yet? Or Isaac?
>>317626308
Don't underestimate the power of weebs. Also there was some really cool merch that was offered in the rewards. Shame the Indivisible backer rewards are so shit.
>>317626308
Just goes to show how few people donating are actual fans of what indivisible is trying to do. There's no fandom behind it, just charity.
>>317626257
The game isn't anything yet. You mean a prototype that is bound to change drastically in two years? K.
Post more Shantae.
>>317625586
They could add every single one of my favorite characters from literally everything
still wont make me enjoy the gameplay
>metroidvania where you have to stop to fight the enemies
This idea is inherently shit
>>317626658
Let's not and say we did.
>>317626454
that's a new use for the word unlikable
>games that use sex appeal to sell
Into the trash it goes.
>>317626432
If we're going to shamelessly cameo a knife-wielding child driven by determination, we might as well pick the best one.
>>317625150
>>317625026
Half Genie Hero has a bit over 18,000 donators. Lab Zero made 1 notable game: Skullgirls. Shantae is a part of a series.
Indivisible would have been funded by now, if they had support like Shantae has support. HGH has been in development for over 2 year now, since Oct. It was originally planned for release in October of 2014.
So basically, they're a year over their planned date. Taking TWICE the time they thought it would take. With a planned release date of "winter 2016".
So what I'm saying is, it's crazy to think that Whyforward isn't spending their own money to keep this in development. It's probably costing up to 3x what they originally projected.
>>317626454
it's literally infinite % than the prototypes other crowdfunded video games have offered at this point
>>317626626
>Total new IP
>Expecting fandom
People are so stupid that they can't see a new IP with potential.
When this doesn't get funded, the biggest, most amazing, I told you so shitposting will commence.
I can't wait.
>>317625586
I don't think many will care that much if an undertale character shows up considering all the other guest characters.
Guest characters can give a boost. but in the end. The fact this project is going so slow is on Lab Zero themselves. Guest characters alone can't save it.
>>317626113
They really did not do a great job of showing what their own characters can do. Just showed a bland piece of art for most of them.
At least show them in action
>>317626520
>The SJW boogieman doesn't exist! I don't believe in ghost stories! They're just a myth!
>>317626762
TF2 used gay sex to sell
>>317626626
indivisible looks neat to me but I'm not that big a fan of turn based systems so I wouldn't be comfortable giving them money even if I had some to spare.
I really hope this shit doesnt get funded
>>317626810
>People are so stupid that they can't see a new IP with potential.
How exactly does Indivisible have potential?
>>317626762
I know, right?
>>317626843
>I don't believe in ghost stories! They're just a myth!
exactly?
>>317626432
You mean the fucker who never actually fights? No give me the spear wielding, suplexing, fish warrior woman.
>>317626308
Is called "target audience", something Indivisible doesn't have.
>>317621230
>>317622075
Fuck that game looks awesome.
I know it would not have made a difference but I would have put some money down for it.
>>317623794
It may be a shit hole, but it's our shit hole.
It's kinda like when you shit talk your hometown, but then you get pissed when someone from out of town shit talks it.
>>317626828
And when it does, the same will happen.
Either way, the shitposters win.
>>317619919
>can't sell game without fanservice
>breaks down and compromises by adding a "waifu"
>still not enough. they need to "lewd up" the brownie
they still get to ram in that "muh diversity" shit
>>317626916
it'sfun
thestory is interesting
it hasgood characters
andthe animation is high quality
I wonder how it feels knowing that there's so little interest in your game that you have to suckle upon the teats of more popular franchises in order to secure your funding?
>>317626916
I don't know, anon but this is only a part of the lore and looks interesting:
http://pastebin.com/5TMuk3Jw
>>317626845
Counterpoint: gay people are statistically less likely to buy video games.
>>317626828
>>317626882
I honestly could care-less about how only 2 panty-shots out of literally 1000s in Skullgirls was censored. I want this game to not get funded for the fact Lab Zero fans have quickly become the biggest shitposters on this board, these threads are sjews/goon magnets.
>>317619069
Shantae looks great in that art style and she fits pretty well.
>>317627043
So basically you're getting paid to shill the game. Got it.
>>317626403
Doesn't matter much, when every other established dev gets shit on for having "behind the scenes" funding from publishers. Yet Shantae get's her pussy sucked for doing the exact same thing.
Isn't the idea of Kickstarter that you NEED money? If Wayforward needs money to fund a new Shantae game, then what that tells me, is that the previous Shantae games didn't sell well enough to sustain their business. And if that's they case, you could say that the interest in Shantae isn't very large.
What games have gotten an extension only for them to not get funded?
>>317626976
>but it's our shit hole.
yea naw, don't include me with you faggots. the majority of posters here are meme loving fucks who can't separate chan culture from their daily lives. they're like the worst furries or bronies, shitposting isn't just something they do for fun, it's a lifestyle to them. they bring it with them everywhere they go. it disgusts me.
>>317627310
>Give reasons about why the game looks interesting.
>Can't make rebuttals.
>SHILL SHILL SHILL YOU ARE SHILLIIIIIIIING
Fucking Neo /v/.
>>317627198
Would the shitposters not be the anti-fans? There were retarded faggots saying that they would pay to get this game NOT funded.
>>317627043
>it has good characters
see this>>317624128
Stop shitposting anon
Guys its cool I just tweeted notch hopefully he's still alive.
Hope my soul is worth 420,000
>>317627384
Your mom.
>>317627352
If you're saying they should've waited until after Pirate's Curse came out, I kinda agree. But Wayforward is pretty well known for eeking by on licensed shit while making their own properties when they get the chance or scrape enough money together. Not surprised they went to Kickstarter.
Only reason i'm not backing Indivisible is I thought the prototype was boring, no real personal vendetta. I like Skullgirls.
>>317626948
>>317626789
Frisk could work well as a bard type character.
Pure status inflicting and party boosting.
Do you know what I just realized?
They should have stylized the character designs in the ridiculously stereotyped racist style of the Asterix comics. French comic art is famous for treating all ethnic groups with the same levels of over-exagerated features and in the case of Asterix all the women are gorgeous.
Fucking imagine seeing Indivisible chracters in the Asterix style animated in the LabZero method. Fucking incredible.
>>317627352
>the interest in Shantae isn't very large
being able to raise almost a million dollars while mighty blunder 9's kickstarter was going on at the same time is a pretty substantial accomplishment, I think. shantae definitely has fans.
>>317626803
Maybe the one for Original sin, but that wasn't open to the public. Also infinite times 0 is still 0
>>317627505
>4 out of 22 characters are bad without explanation because I say so.
Ok, you can stop shitposting anon.
>>317627310
>if you like something on /v/ it means you must be a shill
Too bad I'm not surprised.
>>317627757
MN9 probably helped Shantae if we're being honest, much as I hate MN9, it gave a boost to Kickstarter around that time, and it actively promoted Shantae in updates during the funding period.
Still bullshit that Shantae didn't hit some of those goals while MN9 got 4 million, but eh. That's life.
>>317627505
I like all 4 of those characters
Phoebe is actually my favorite.
>>317627830
>>317627953
There is no need to samefag.
>>317628031
>desperation intensifies
>y-you must be the same person, it's impossible for more than one person out of 17,000 to be in this thread
>>317627483
>"is fun"
>Something that deserves a rebuttal
>>317619069
>mfw they could've been working on new skull girls instead
>mfw shantae could've been in skull girls
Also they'll never get their hands on quote,so all is good in this world
>That fucking death glare she's giving shantae
>>317627606
I don't know if they should have waited to start development on HGH. But I am suggesting that they could have spent their own money if they wanted. Which is typically what /v/ wants.
>>317627757
>Shantae includes costume from indie darling Beck from MN.9
>Cross promote the hell out of these two games
>"MN.9 is stealing the spotlight" :(
>Indivisible includes a bunch of indie darling characters in whole.
>Cross promotes the hell out of these games.
>"Indivisible is pathetically grasping" >:)
>>317627890
nobody backed shantae because inajewne mentioned it, people aren't that stupid.
oh wait
>>317619069
>Is there a chance now?
>>317619069
depends?
can anyone link me to some bestiality porn of either of those 2?
if i can find or am show about at least 7 quality bestiality pics then i guess ill throw them 50 or 70 bucks to their fundraiser thing
>>317628294
Bestiality is a sin anon
>>317628204
She gave a glare to every guest.
>>317628294
Well I know there's one of shantae with an elephant and a monkey
Lmao who gives a shit? BattleTech already got funded in the millions and it's all you need.
>>317628253
Nobody cares what /v/ wants because all it does is pirate everything after the fact, just like they were trying with the fucking demo of HGH.
>>317628204
> grey and pissed because never ever
> colored and smiling because already funded
It's like pottery.
>>317628294
There's probably some of Ajna being knotted by Lanshi. I hope.
>>317621212
The problem is they all need living wages in an area with a notoriously expensive cost of living
>>317628253
>Shantae includes costume from indie darling Beck from MN.9
>Cross promote the hell out of these two games
there is no beck costume planned for half genie hero, that was just some art one of the shantae devs made for fun. that's about the most cross promotion there was between those too kickstarters.
real cross promotion is having the hyper light drifter character make a cameo in the game as well has having his sword be a weapon skin for risky.
>>317620791
Nothing deserves funding. The game doesn't look enjoyable to me so I won't back it. There's no conspiracy. Even if people were put off by the characters or devs etc. They'd still fund it if it looked that fun. These are the same people who have so little self-control they can't manage a boycott. It just doesn't look very good.
>>317627043
I don't see how you can say that the characters and story is good when the game has only gotten a tiny-pre-alpha demo.
Also who is the writer(s) for this?
I also don't see how the animations matter when the designs are bad.
>>317626968
Apparently the developer's still honouring pledge rewards despite the campaign sinking like a rock. I wonder if he'll set up a Paypal for people interested after the fact? He seems to have gone quiet on KS for a while.
>>317628457
/v/ had regular shill threads for HGH's kickstarter. The same thing Indivisible threads got lambasted for. /v/ was a great promoter.
Also, I don't think they're wrong. The idea of kickstarter is to kick-start things. You know... get it started. Get the ball rolling. No just dip in and take money for your already ongoing series.
>>317628623
>Shantae includes costume from indie darling Beck from MN.9
No it doesn't. And they crosspromoted only in one update (like every gaming kickstarter does with other ks)
>>317628253
>Shantae reached its goals days before the end of the project and got the double of what the asked by them
>Indivisible is pathetically grasping even with an extension
The difference is not hard to comprehend son
>>317628674
>Also who is the writer(s) for this?
Alex, same as with skullgirls, which has good lore and storylines but the genre is shit for showing it.
>>317628623
Alright then, I stand corrected. But I do remember shared promotion during the time when their campaigns were going. maybe it was just images, but it was still cross promotion.
>>317628674
from what we've already seen of the character concepts
I like their designs and a lot of their stories seem interesting.
>>317626968
same...now i'm bummed I didn't know about this.
>>317628621
I wonder how long it will take until people realize that it has become incredibly difficult to have what our parents had: stable job, home, raise a family. You may get paid a lot but most of it goes to the fucking mortgage. We just don't feel like paying people enough for their work, we want cheap shit, and we don't realize that the inexpensive shit is subsidized by people who get paid dogshit wages here or overseas to manufacture our cheap shit.
I wonder how many homes in LA are occupied more than 50% of the year. Because I'm sure a staggering amount of them are just second or third homes for people.
>>317629025
>Alex, same as with skullgirls, which has good lore and storylines but the genre is shit for showing it.
yeah I'm sure. he'll probably win awards for his writing some day.
>>317628294
I know of two images involving Ajna (the protagonist of indivisible) but I didn't save them because I don't enjoy that smutonly exception i've ever come across is touhou girls with dogs
>>317629025
actually they just have the bare basics of what they want for story and lore. they said they'll probably hire some writers onto the staff.
So this is basically becoming some sort of indie mashup? What other characters are they going to get?
>>317629289
This is going to end the same way as Skullgirls.
>We have 10000!!!!
>Oh sorry guys, we only manage to make 6
>Don't worry, we have another Kickstarter for DLC!
>>317628753
Damn he sounds based as fuck.
Kickstarters generally don't do well after thanksgiving to new years so if he does do it again it will probably be after that time
>>317629439
>things that never happened
I like lying too, but there's a time and a place.
>>317629523
How many SG characters are in their forums and not in game?
Checkmate faggot
They really want this shit to get funded, don't they?
>>317629636
The exact same number they promised to put in the game.
But go ahead, keep trying to fool someone who was here back then.
>>317629523
Because anonymous imagenboard is serious business time
>>317629748
They actually added one more for free.
>>317628448
How did BattleTech get funded but this didn't?
>handful of people praise the game ITT
I bet you people haven't even backed the project with a decent amount.
Maybe you should stop being such hipsters.
The game has problems getting funded for several reasons.
>>317629439
The game wasn't crowdfunded initially, you are full of shit.
They were publisher published and funded, but got laid off in the middle of developing a character they were going to release post release that they had wanted to be part of the base game due to their publisher getting sued, so they had a indiegogo just to fund that character, and they manage to get nough to release an additional 3 more, + stages for eeach + voice packs, but then they managed to do even more with that money (5 characers instead of 3, like 7 stages instead of 3)
>>317629748
More then that. They asked for enough for squigly, they got enough for squigly, eliza, big band, and beowulf, but then were also able to make fukua and robo fortune on top of that.
>>317628994
Indivisible reached Shantae's campaign numbers before the initial 30 day limit. And they reached that number with less overall backers. meaning Indivisible backers actually contribute more overall.
Shantae continued asking for money through paypal. The game got delayed. And they ended up making only something like 950k(including the kickstarter money), over the span of a year and two months. Indivisible made more than that in less than 50 days.
The difference is that Wayforward has the funds to keep Shantae afloat. They had the money all along. They just used Kickstarter as a way to save them a bit of cash.
I wonder what the reaction is going to be when Indivisible gets funded.
Aside from the BTFO spam of course.11 days is more than enough. Not to mention I've always regarded these Anti-Indiv threads as some kind of reverse psychology marketing scheme; using its status as a crowdfunded title to justify daily spam which only exposes it to more people.I donated 30 bucks.
>>317625586
They could announce Lynne, Phi, and Maya Fey would be in it and I'd still not donate. If they announced an Undertale character, I wouldn't give two shits either. It's a piece of forced-diversity garbage with shit gameplay, and I'm sure as shit not donating.
>>317629868
>>317629932
Though there was a sixth one, it doesn't change the fact that are five also.i can't believe i completely forgot about my main FUUUCK
>>317629909
I backed it for $85USD, come at me
>>317629967
That's because they survive on making shovel ware
>>317623853
>art moderator
Wat.
>>317630085
>shit gameplay
I get that reasoning, that's why I won't fund it eit--
>It's a piece of forced-diversity garbage
...So? Take your ass back to /pol/.
>>317619069
holy shit, nice
>>317629967
WF's funds are relative to how many contracts they have going on. They could've self-funded HGH, but it would've taken them years to get the budget necessary, let alone developing.
>>317629909
100$ nigga
>>317623853
>BEEP BOOP BAN
DING DONG BANNU
You make me sad /v/.
>>317624997
>Unlike VP. There are no flat out terrible ones in VP.
Any of the bitch boy archers. Boring lancer.
>>317628404
>>317628512
>>317629205
well how about some links ya selfish cunts
>>317630360
Stanrey for Indivisible when
>>317630380
Go to /vg/ then. You can circlejerk this all you want there.
>>317629967
Unlike Lab Zero, Wayforward makes licensed shit inbetween games they actually want to make in order to be able to afford making them. Maybe Lab Zero should make something more before they ask for 1.5 mil.
>>317629967
Because they had different goals, people don't buy the $1000 tier in a $300 project. The difference is that HGH is probably going to get release while ind. is not and is going to look pretty pathetic in insight
>>317630516
Just search the boorus, I'm not doing your work for you
>>317630178
>>317630316
>>317630564
So basically you're telling me that Shantae isn't self sustaining as a franchise. Is that what you're saying? Because if that's what you're saying, then I'll go along with it.
Here's my new narrative: Wayforward used kickstarter, because Shantae is too niche to survive otherwise.
>>317630709
Basically, the way I see it it's a game for fans of shantae and hopefully it can bring in new people with its updated look
>>317630709
For making a big HD game, yeah.
>>317630709
>Wayforward used kickstarter, because Shantae is too niche to survive otherwise.
What a crazy use for kickstarter
>>317630709
>Wayforward used kickstarter, because Shantae is too niche to survive otherwise.
No shit, really? Weeeew.
>>317624997
Everyone hates Llewelyn. Plus a ton of characters just blend together outside of their specific story sequences
>>317621197
Reminder that this faggot spends his days repeatedly begging for art nobody wants to draw him, and is a literal mexican brony
>>317630564
And if you ask any Shantae fan they'll tell you that it fucking sucks and they wished WayForward could stay together any other way without having to wait almost a decade before they can get back to work on what they actually want to.
>needs $410,000 in 11 days
Is this what it feels like to lose hope?
![tumblr_inline_ny0rlxeP7V1sfowu6_500[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/F6gmyT1.png "tumblr inline ny0rlxeP7V1sfowu6 500[1]")
>Exclusive Backer Colors
This is pathetic.
>>317631562
>add white versions of ajna just for you
>complain
why?
>>317630875
>>317630854
That's insane. That you believe Wayfrward is so hard up for money, that they NEEDED that 950k.(Less after taxes and fees)
Think about how much it's costing Lab Zero to make Indivisible. Their goal for their budget is 3.5mil, right? And they're shoooting for a 2017 release.
That's 1.75m per year. Shantae has already been in development for two years. You really think the only spent 950k on that game? No, of course not. Wayforward is putting their own money in to keep the thing going. Even if it costs them HALF as much as Indivisible to produce, they still would have to put 800,000 of their own cash to keep the project alive this long.
Meaning they already had the supposed amount of money to fund this think all along.
>>317630964
>>317630919
Shantae is an established series. Shouldn't it be growing? Or are they really just that bad at business, that they don't know how to sell their games? Or maybe they do try to sell their games, but it's just not that popular.
Which makes it funny how people are shitting on Indivisible right now. Talking about how no one wants it and all that blah-blah. When Shantae is a game that literally can't sustain itself.
>>317631562
This was in when the campaign started.
And in the SG campaign too
>>317630636
aww man like thats cool and all i just dont want to wade through much shit to find quality pics
>>317631562
All I need is that Parasoul palette.
>>317628294
>>317628404
i'm only here to post this
this counts right
It's really sad that they are so desperate that they have to keep shoe horning in references to other games, at this point I think there are more cameos than original characters.
>>317631963
eh... thats cool and all but i would prefer to see the girls getting done by he animals instead still cute though
>>317631905
From what I remember there are like 3 pages of indivisible stuff on any given booru because of how new it is
Try gelbooru or rule34.x
>>317631963
delete this
>>317632062
There aren't
>>317631784
>Which makes it funny how people are shitting on Indivisible right now
You see the difference is that Indivisible can't even survive by begging and Lab zero is going to close. No one wants it to the level that is not going to exist, unlike Shantae
>>317631246
>Everyone hates Llewelyn.
He's not supposed to be some alpha male badass, not shit people don't like him.
He's a kind and meek farmboy pressed into military service.
In other words his design is fitting.
Meanwhile in Indivisible we have flat out terrible character designs and some are plainly rushed just to try and garner some kind of hype so people fund it more. Some are just there to appeal to a certain demographic to yet again rope in more backers, like the purple haired chick here >>317624128
Did they ever say how the guest characters are going to work? Also can we swap out anja in the future or are we stuck playing with her all the time?
>>317627043
If the characters are so good, then why do they need another studio's characters to advertise it?
>>317632458
I could ask the same about shovel knight
>>317631784
>Shantae is an established series. Shouldn't it be growing?
Like how Sonic is?
>>317632229
better?
>>317632265
Lab Zero raised more money, and almost the same amount of backers for a brand new IP. the only real difference, is that Lab Zero doesn't have the cushion to fall back on. They really do need your money. While Shantae had a nice stack to fall back on this whole time. Wayforward didn't need your money.
>>317627483
Not that guy and his response was faggy, but your justifications are pretty shitty subjective statements with nothing to back them up.
WHY is it fun?
WHY are the characters good?
WHY is the story interesting?
WHAT makes the animation high quality?
>>317632502
And who the fuck is arguing that shovel knight or any of the character in that game are good? Is an old school platformer, they are one dimensional jokes
>>317632458
Because another one screwed them.
>>317632634
I guess.
>>317629025
Isn't Skullgirls literally just Master of Martial Hearts with more edge?
GG should donate to and add vivian james as a NPC.
>>317632754
Tell me why are bad.
>>317632641
They needed the money if you wanted a HD Shantae game before 2021
>why aren't you backing this /v/!?
Maybe you should ask the rest of the world that.
This game doesn't look promising at all.
It's also poorly thought out
>completely different from skullgirls in genre and style (meaning they're not targeting skullgirls fans)
>borrows gameplay elements from Valkyrie Profile but nothing else, goes for a completely different approach with the characters, tone and story (meaning they're not targeting the VP fans)
>for some reason they expected strong monetary support
Who exactly is this game for? Who do you want support from?
What is your hook?
>>317632754
Not that anon but,
>WHAT makes the animation high quality?
That should be immediately evident. The proof is in the pudding.
>>317632641
>the only real difference, is that Lab Zero doesn't have the cushion to fall back on
Well if Wayforward is so shit at business and expanding their IPs, and even them are better at business than Lab zero, maybe Lab Zero doesn't deserve any money
>>317632759
>shovel knight
>bad
contrarian levels are off the charts!
>>317632502
Shovel Knight never used Baz or Boomerang Fuccboi to advertise their game.
>>317632641
Maybe Lab Zero should have taken some goddamn baby steps then like WF did with contract jobs. You can't just avoid doing things other people want, skipping all that, just to make your dreams from the start, unless you're a rich trust fund baby. They'll eventually learn that they too will have to start somewhere, and it isn't "makin' muh dream game already"
>>317633014
no, they just literally and directly accepted a large sum of money to put the character in the game, and advertised to people beforehand that they would do this no matter who you were as long as you had the money.
>>317632959
Yeah that last one is pretty self-evident, but for the sake of argument/persuasion he should still include what technical elements make it of higher quality such as hand drawn frames and whatnot.
>>317632976
Is not a bad game, but is not some kind of plot heavy character-drive RPG (and that's a good thing) so the comparison is dumb
>>317632958
I honestly can't believe it has the support it already got. I don't even know who the target audience is supposed to be.
>>317632948
No they didn't. Try to follow my math.
Even if the production of HGH is half that of Indivisible. They still ended up spending 800k of their own money on the game. When the original supposed cost was 776k from the kickstarter.
Which goes to show that they had the money all along.
>>317632963
Maybe. That's a valid point. Although, for a fresh new IP, they've managed to scrape together a lot of support. Perhaps they stand a better chance than Shantae. We won't know though, because the campaign will likely fail. So we'll never see what it becomes.
>>317632754
>fun
push buttons and things happen. controls feel responsive and level design was fun to explore
secrets were challenging and satisfying after i conquered them.
what they've pulled from valkyrie profile in terms of combat makes the combat way more responsive than other rpg games.
>characters
the character concepts are relatively unique compared to most games and show off inspiration from cultures that are rarely touched upon
also every single girl is QT as fuq
>story
the concept of the town in her head and gathering a lot of characters with all of them having interactions with her sounds really fun and engaging
>animation
dude it's just really fucking good
>>317633023
Maybe. That's a valid point too. But I just find it hypocritical that Wayforward gets their balls licked on /v/. When they did the thing that Indivisible was falsely accused of doing in the beginning.
That thing being: asking for money when you already have the funds.
>>317633689
I'm not with that group and I agree that it comes off as hypocritical too, but it's /v/, they are always hypocritical here.
>>317632958
Oh Edgey.
>Maybe you should ask the rest of the world that.
This game doesn't look promising at all.
Funny that this games has 17000 backers already.
>completely different from skullgirls in genre and style (meaning they're not targeting skullgirls fans)
There's a lot of people who liked SG and are interested in this game.
>>borrows gameplay elements from Valkyrie Profile but nothing else, goes for a completely different approach with the characters, tone and story
They are mixing different gameplay elements in the final game, the only obvious now is VP.
>for some reason they expected strong monetary support
Yes, because they want to make a real good and complete game.
>Who exactly is this game for?
Anyone who likes RPGs, good animations, story and characters.
>What is your hook?
The same as MN 9? Oh wait, L0 actually are being honest, and they are creating a good looking game.
Edgey you need to thin your arguments.
>>317633361
>they've managed to scrape together a lot of support.
Under what standards? definitely not the ones of a game publisher like 505, One could argue they didn't got enough support under the fact that they LITERALLY are not going to get enough support to make the game
how do I email this fag so I can get my gay furry OC into this game and get popular
>>317633689
WF were trying to appeal to a specific group of people.
LZ is not trying to appeal to anyone but themselves while also asking for a pretty hefty base funding.
The quality and direction for Indivisible is all over the place as well.
