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What the fuck did i just played?
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Evangelion: The Video Game
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We Don't Know Where To Go With This Plot: The Video Game
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Space Hindu Bullshit
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>>317616654
Is Nocturne plot less confusing? i'm going to play tha one tonight.
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A trip to a demon buffet.
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>>317616741
What do you mean? It has one of the more focused plots in JRPGs. Most JRPGs devolve into filler and padding halfway in because they can't pace the game properly after shit gets real halfway in.
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>>317616886
Nocturne barely has a plot
If you want a SMT game with a plot you either go Digital devil saga or Persona 2
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>>317617837

Yes it has a story:
>see a god, punch him until he dies, rinse and repeat.
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Sera is cute! CUTE!
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>>317616886
Nigger have you not played the first game or something, dds explains everything to you.
Nocturbe is all about the ambiance. There's hardly any plot to be had.
Hell, there's hardly anyone in the game besides you, pixie, the big G, and louis cyphre.
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>>317618547
The embryon suits look so /fa/. Adaptable too.
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It makes a lot more sense if you have a passing knowledge of Hindu beliefs, but it's a weird thing to expect of the player.
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Cielo best DDS
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Just google the explanation, it is as >>317618712
said.
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Why doesn't Atlus make more JRPGs all about futa?
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SMT thread?

What should I play when I'm done with nocturne? Apart from persona 3 and 4
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>>317616886
Yeah. But with the Nocturne plot you have to run around exploring and talking to absolutely everyone to piece everything together. It's not confusing at all at least.
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>>317618934
DDS1/2 or SMT IV or Strange Journey.
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>>317618817
>not based Gale.
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>>317617837
Plot =/= Storytelling

Nocturne has a plot.
The storytelling is minimalistic at best.
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I like Heat.
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>>317618934
Raidou games are pretty ballin'. I wish they'd make more.
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>>317618817
>EY MON, I BE JAMAICON NAO
That was fucking jarring
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>>317620436
He really did nothing wrong.
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>>317616741
Nah man, they knew what they were doing.

Whether it was any good or not is the real debate. I think it was, it's my favorite plot to an SMT game.
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>did
>played
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>>317618934
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>>317621490
Yes he did, but he literally could go no other way with the way he was...born? Made? Whatever, all he had was the real Heat's rage with some flickers of his real emotions, he's certainly the most tragic character.
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>>317616741
Does the plot go to shit once you reach the Sun?
I'm at the airport right now, and it seemed to flow pretty well so far, the reveal scene was fucking tight
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>>317618817
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVVMP3h2DDk
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>>317621490
He tried to get in the way of progress and caused the whole disaster
Really everything is entirely his fault
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>>317621670
My friend thinks it did, I think it was still fine...but it definitely veers in a different direction. Still, it lines up with the Hindu shit the games have.

>>317621689
I thought Gale's was sadder personally.
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>>317622040
Fuck that guy.

Though it was an interesting turn to make the protagonist essentially the biggest asshole in the universe in his previous incarnation.
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>>317621689
From the opening i thought it was Sera flying.
Then Gale died, then Cielo died.
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>Using Serph, Argilla, and Gale the whole game
>Serph bites it
>Ok I guess I'll use Roland then
>Roland gets fucked
>Argilla gets fucked
>Stuck with fucking 30 levels behind Cielo getting one-shot by everything
I like the game but this is starting to get pretty fucking bullshit
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Who the fuck names their kids Serph or Heat? This isn't even a Tumblr ruled future, the apocalypse happened in 2020 so these guys were born in the late nineties.
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>>317616610
Honestly, and maybe i'll get torn apart from this...the only SMT games I can subscribe to liking are Strange Journey and Digital Devil Saga 1/2. But Digital Devil Saga 1/2 is my favorite JRPG, so...I dunno.
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>>317622609
Mantras being behind I can understand, but they made the Mutual Karma skill available very early on and dirt cheap for a reason.
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>>317622609
Should have use that mutual karma bro, it was very cheap in the second game.

Thought the same happened to me.
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>>317622740
Well the Mantras are what make you powerful, not levels.
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Johnny's the real hero of DDS2.
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SEX with Sera.
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>>317623135
Based Johnny, truly the best comrade.
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>>317623245
Isn't she only like 8 years old?
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>>317623381
Not with that body she isn't.
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>>317623381
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>>317623468
>no trigger discipline
2/10 would not bang
Might let her blow me though.
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>>317623381
Her body isn't.
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>>317623603
You want her to eat your penis? Good choice.
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>>317623687
YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE YOUR HUNGER
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So is Nocturne shit? i like rpgs with good plot.
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>>317624762
It has excellent gameplay and atmosphere but almost no story.
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>>317624762
>So is Nocturne shit?
No, the gameplay is top-tier and the setting and atmosphere are really cool and well done
>Good plot
Fuuuuuck no, it's barebones as hell
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>>317618547
Dude shes like 7
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>>317625768
Why do you think she aged herself up whenever she went into her digital playground? She was taking that artificial cock everyday.
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>>317621689
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>>317623135
Was it him that sells you that item that let's you cast Psycho Rage? Or I think maybe it was a Jack Frost or something.

Either way, that thing saved my ass.
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>>317626463
It was that Pyro Jack from the Hee Ho Hip Hop bros who sat outside of the shop in the underground city
>>317625865
She aged up because the EGG was accelerating her age and killing her
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>>317616610
got into SMT recently with 4 and devil summoner.
Hyped for final
found DDS 1 and 2 and nocturne (pal) online for cheap. Are they worth it?
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>>317626597
No, I mean even when she was a loli and built her artificial playground she appeared as an adult while in the simulation. When her physical body was still a child
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So what was the deal with the cat?
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>>317626826
Absolutely, DDS1/2 are my favorite SMT games so I'd highly recommend them.
Nocturne is great too, despite all the shitposting it gets.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZcHrpX3eQ

>>317626826
Yes, get them. I did the same thing a while back, bought a PS2, Nocturne and both DDS, totally worth it.
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>>317626893
As far as I could tell it was real Heat's ghost or reincarnation or some shit
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>>317626893
It was either Seraph from the future/beyond time and space or it was some aspect of Brahman. Probably the former even if I prefer the latter. I suppose they are technically the same in a way though.
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>>317626826
Hell yeah they are
The DDS games work more like traditional JRPGs, and Nocturne is pretty different tonally from 4 though (more focused on feeling isolated)
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>>317626893
Seraph as a their own being that achieved enlightenment I think and was doing what they did to keep a stable time loop.
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So why did Angel turned into futa too? was she going to try to be Seraph?

Also, the 18 kid was Cielo right?
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>>317617837
Don't forget about Devil Survivor
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>>317618547
>Tfw no porn
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>>317629213
She was always a delicious futa.
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>>317629296
Devil Survivor is so far the only SMT game I stopped playing because I didn't enjoy it very much. I did get Overclocked some time ago though and I'm going to give it an another shot.
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>Sera + Serph = Seraph
>Mfw I notice this only near the end of the second game
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>>317629642
>Louis Cypher
>Lou Cypher
>Loucypher
>Lucifer

Holy shit!
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>>317629821
>Louis Cypher
>Lou Cypher
>Loucypher
>Louie C.K.

How deep does this rabbit hole go?
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>>317629821
>>317629983

>Diddy’s Kong Quest
>Diddy's Conquest

Goddamn
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>>317622609
finally a game where leveling characters up evenly actually pays off!
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>>317622609
>the new opening is like 'okay we are out, let's find the truth and save the world!'

>mfw they start dying one by one.
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>>317627272
>>317627035
>>317626962

aight, we in there
now I just need to find a ps2/3
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>>317630976
That was great though, made you wonder just how the fuck it was going to end.
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I just beat DDS1 and spoiled myself on characters dying in the second game.

I don't mind though. The game has been out for a decade so can't blame anyone. Kind of still want to play through it just to finish what I started.
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Loved some of the event OST too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT4up3rzkaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfMYKBHPMcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq6i7BfoRb4

>>317634559
You need to finish it, trust me, you don't know just how out there the ending to 2 is.
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>>317627035
I feel like your pic is supposed to be a joke I don't understand
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>>317634995
You get more money if you sell your solar cells at maximum solar noise. That's the entrance to a store.
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>>317635239

Don't worry anon, I got the joke.
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>>317634559
I literally also spoilered this just now from the first page.
On the bright side, I know to level up everyone now
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Post some of your favorite songs from 1 or 2, doesn't really matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmakjAgd2G0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbeaMT8zec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE3Ayi4sPQM
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Does Argilla have pink pubes?
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>>317637591
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>>317619264

Gale is the only JRPG protagonist besides Nier to love futa
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>>317634559
The death scenes are simple but very touching.
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>>317637785
How did she get that scar? was that asshole Serph?
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>>317638924
She acquired it in combat at some point before DDS1 began.
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>Fighting Heat in DDS2
>Remix of the battle theme in DDS1 plays

https://youtu.be/z0IDL5XWQVo

Shoji Meguro outdid himself here. He still hasn't topped his DDS songs, in my opinion
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>>317616610
What the fuck did I just play?*
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You killed me.

UNDERSTAND?!
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>>317622609
This is exactly what happened to me. Luckily I had the foresight to give everyone the skill to passively gain XP, even without knowing what was going to happen.
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>>317639362
I'm looking forward to P5's soundtrack, the last PV theme really gave me DDS vibes.

I mean, just compare the song in this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbZUvWs-XyE

To this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8LPvutrlI

Poor Heat was so misunderstood
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>>317639887
Heat did nothing wrong.
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>>317642408
Heat was an ass.

It wasn't his fault that he was an ass, but an ass he was.
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Thoughts?
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>>317642745
That's hot.
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>>317642408
>Trying to steal other people's asses.
>Not wrong.
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>>317617524
>Most JRPGs devolve into filler and padding halfway in because they can't pace the game properly after shit gets real halfway in.
You mean like how literally the entire second half of DDS2 is climbing through the final dungeon with the only plot for the entire ten hours it takes being five lines of dialogue when you encounter a boss every few floors?
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>>317616886
Play strange journey instead. Not only it has a more coherent easy to follow story, it also got amazing characters.
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>>317642669
MC was the ass heat just got fucked over while MC was forgiven for causing 100% of all their problems.
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>>317642990
First game did it too.

Holy shit were the final dungeons in these games long...absurdly long.
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>>317643091
They were only around twice as long as the average dungeon in the games.
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>>317643091
I like long dungeons.
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>>317643076
The data versions are separate from who they're based on.

Heat O'Brien the scientist? Yeah, he's innocent and did nothing wrong, has a bit of a temper, but it's justified.

Data Heat? All he had was scientist Heat's rage since that's all Sera knew of him really, but he still had inklings of his true feelings but literally could not express them in any other way but violently.
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>>317643307
Where do people get these last names from? Some Japanese only paraphernalia?
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>>317643091
First game's final dungeon wasn't nearly as long, and it had more plot spread throughout. The first game was also ~30 hours in total, while the second is only ~20 hours to begin with.
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>>317643307
It's been a while but didn't the girl see MC murder Heat yet he still wound up as the innocent data person?
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>>317643425
This is the real issue. The second game is shorter so the final dungeon feels like padding whereas in DDS1 the final dungeon being far longer felt natural. I ended up in the final dungeon of DDS2 3 or 4 hours before I did in DDS1. That's a whole dungeon at least.
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>>317616610
I really wish DDS was one really great game instead of two good games with really great aspects.

There's just so much goddamn filler dungeon in these games, dds is a lot easier and more 'standard jrpg' than the SMT games that came before it but unlike persona 3/4 they still have over half the game being dungeon crawling, and the dungeons aren't even that great because against DDS was intentionally made to be less hardcore.

At least the music is always great even though the dungeons usually aren't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmHTLmq59vg
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>>317637392
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5EA4xbjz2Q
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>>317643454
Yeah, she did.

Data Serph is kinda stoic because she has no idea what to make of Serph in reality. Her fantasy of him was completely off.

Been a while for me too. I kinda plan to replay them on my vacation here in January.

>>317643387
I believe so. There's some novelization out there too that I think is officially sanctioned with those last names.
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>>317616849
I wish I still had that wallpaper I made
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>>317643673
>I really wish DDS was one really great game instead of two good games with really great aspects.

Surprised it hasn't been remade and repaced and rebalanced in that way for the Vita or 3DS or something like that.
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>>317643826
>modern atlus remaking anything besides persona or etrian oddsey

lmao
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>>317643949
Yeah, I know.

Fuck, what I really want from them is a follow up to Trauma Team, but that's a fool's dream.
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>>317616610
>best song in the game wasn't even made for the game itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5U93eyig8w
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>this part
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>>317643949
>Overclocked and Record Breaker
>No Strange Journey 3DS

fug
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>>317644087
One of the very few times where a song change in localization was a good choice. Might be the only time honestly.
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>>317644169
devil survior is persona in all but name
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>>317644087
Funny because it actually somewhat fits DDS1.
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>yfw this asshole
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What did she mean by this?
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>>317644541
Read that as "blown in you" for a sec.
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>>317634559
Don't worry, there's WAY more to the game's story than just everyone kicking the bucket
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Why were they even trying to shut down that power plant in the first place? How did they think it would help matters?
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>>317644460
>tfw I fucked up one of my commands and got Gale killed
>didn't have any revival items on me since I spent all my money on moves instead
>had to switch out for my under leveled Cielo
>he didn't die surprisingly

Also Roland was a cool guy, even if he was voiced by Ow The Edge.
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>>317645001
I always wondered what happened to his data. He wasn't shown in the aftermath reincarnated.
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>>317644956
They were trying to shut down the EGG and its transmitters to shut down the signal even though

1: The EGG can apparently function on its own without the power plant. Only Sera knew this and she was too busy acting catatonic to tell them
2: The transmission stopping wouldn't change God's mind anyway
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>>317644956
God can't destroy the world if there's no power!
Really I just think they wanted to do a lab and a corrupted lab but couldn't really think of a way to make you lave the lab that made sense
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>>317642669
>>317643076
>Those few choices in a few scenes throughout both games that determine whether you get Heat or Roland at the end of DDS2
>The choice where Heat shows up and wants to fight Serph
>Agree to fight him since I immediately understood that it was a ruse and opted to play along
>YOU FUCKED UP, NO HEAT FOR YOU
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>>317645390
>Intentionally make the wrong choices because I like Roland's Atma design more than Heat's.
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>>317616610

A rushed sequel with 50% of the game missing in comparison to the first game.
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At least it has less bullshit than SMT nocturne.
I really felt rewarded after finishing the second game.
Had to save state scum to defeat that fucking secret boss
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How 2deep4u is this game?
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>>317645667
Seriously, that pile bunker arm is cool as shit
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>>317645806
4deep8u.
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>>317645806
Not very, but it's a large step ahead most JRPGs.
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>>317645806
Not very, there's a good deal of Hindu symbolism and AI ethics, but that's about it
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>>317645806
A level above the typical JRPG, but not very.
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>>317646028
>>317646006
Shame. Seemed like it had potential to be something with much more substance story wise. Will play anyways.
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>>317645806
This game has probably the most religious symbolism out of all the SMT games.

And that's saying a lot.
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>>317645675
50%? That's a bit much. It's like one dungeon shorter.
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>>317645675
You have to treat DDS1 and 2 as one game.
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I wish the other smt games had simple dungeons like persona

I really like the fights setting and bosses but just worrying about getting 1 shotted and losing an hour of work or going in circles because you didnt turn left exactly on this point and ended up getting teleported back to the start sucks
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>>317646581
If you're talking about the corrupted lab, just follow the wailing
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>>317621689
>"man, my death scene was really cool huh?"
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>>317646581
Some people enjoy it anon, it's a form of masochism, just go look at some DRPG maps.

I too, enjoy it.
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>>317646581

Tartarus and the TV World were a mistake.
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>>317646790
Thats actually where i dropped dds. i almost quit nocturne at the prison level but then used guides for a bit. then i just quit that one for good when i got to yoyogi park. its not worth the slog of memorizing a pattern. i just stick with persona
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>>317646581
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>>317647158
Final dungeon of Okage is no slouch.
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>>317647125
>Had to use guides for the prison
Are you legitimately a retard or something?
You know Persona 5 is gonna have actual dungeons now right?
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>>317644102
i just completed this part the other day

dat anxiety
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>>317647639
There's no reason to believe they'll be any more complex than the ones in P4. They simply won't be corridors that feel randomly generated.
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>>317647502
>Every single dungeon beforehand was pretty much the same place with minor tweaks.

dammit, I want to like that game because of the characters and stuff but the gameplay is so underwhelming.
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>>317647523
>>317647158
see this just isn't.... fun.

>>317647639
no it wont. there will be better detail and more events but not be headaches and chores to go through.
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>>317647790
I have it, but I feel like i'd be destroying something precious if I went back to try and play it. I doubt it holds up.

That section where you have to talk to every single NPC in the entire world...
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>>317647849
>see this just isn't.... fun.
I had way more fun with Strange Journey's bullshit than with Tartarus or any of the copypasted dungeons from P4. It's just too much handholding
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>>317647849
>see this just isn't.... fun.

It is.

It's because you faggots that SMT have become a casual shit game like persona

The last great SMT game was Strange Journey
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>>317647049
Fuck you Meari I hope you get blacked
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>>317648094
>>317648105
Again, I feel like a weirdo for only really liking Strange Journey and Digital Devil Saga. Maybe it's that they both hit the sweet spot of compelling story and gameplay with great atmosphere.

Also, they both have godlike OST, admittedly, I haven't played the Raidou games or Persona 2.
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>>317648094
What, you didn't have fun with this?
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>>317647849
>tfw legitimately love long bullshit dungeons.

I think I'm the only person that has played Golden Sun and not said "Fuck Air's Rock."
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>>317648094
>>317648105
If only there was a compromise between nocturne and p4. Actually if i remember...nocturne is pretty much as linear as p4 theres just a bunch of shitty secrets and loops you have to do to proceed
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>>317648418
Eridanus isn't really bullshit though. It's relatively straightforward and is very generous with the shortcuts everywhere that lead to a save point, heal spot, and let you get around quickly. Only the boss was bullshit. Pure artificial difficulty even once you fuse a good party.
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>>317648273
SMT became casual garbage like Final Fantasy after Strange Journey, don't listen to the retards who like SMT4, FExSMT and P5.

Dragon Quest, believe it or not, remains the only hardcore jrpgs series that hasn't been casualized
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>>317648626
>DQVIII
>hardcore
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>>317648626
I believe it. I just got Dragon Warrior III for gameboy color in the mail actually, love those games but never played III. Played all except the first 3 and VII. Hyped for the remakes.
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>>317621689
Man, I never beat DDS2. I fucked up my skill trees and could get past Mega Nada.

Also that OST was goddamn fantastic, every track is catchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nSqs2gr4Mo.
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>>317648273
Asupekuto Raidou games don't have as much complicated dungeons as the others, but the gameplay in 1 isn't as good as in 2. As with any Megaten game the atmosphere and music are top tier though.

>>317648513
Yeah, Nocturne isn't either too hard nor too easy, but comparing its dungeons to P3/4's randomly generated garbage is not fair.

>tfw Great Cathedral pt. 2 NEVER EVER
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>>317648806
It's harder than any SMT game after SJ.

The Dragon Trials alone are harder than anything in SMT4.
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>>317648946
>tfw Great Cathedral pt. 2 NEVER EVER
Thank god.
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>>317648626
>Can autobattle your way through most of the pre-Press Turn games

Megaten was only ever hard in the "Where the fuck am I supposed to go?" sense.
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I beat SMT II last month. It was fucking amazing, i mean, holy shit. The bosses could have been harded, but whatever
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>>317649178
KMT was pretty rough if for some reason you were dumb and decided that you shouldn't invest in defensive stats when demons were beating the shit out of you.
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Why is Strange Journey so popular? I was enjoying it at first but it's probably the driest, most repetitive and formulaic game I've ever played and I burned out early into Fornax.
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>>317616654
>mfw someone on /tv/ once said, and I quote,"Neon Genesis Evangelion is a masterpiece that should be hailed alongside the works of greats such as David Mamet"
>mfw David Mamet is my dad
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>>317649417
I guess it's popular with a very vocal minority here. I can't fucking comprehend how these people think it's the best SMT ever.
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>>317649041
>he doesn't enjoy bullshit at its highest caliber

>>317649178
Hell, you could autobattle almost everything in SMT1, it's always been about the dungeon crawling.
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>>317649417

It's Doom: The JRPG.
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>>317649417
Because it has well designed dungeons, well designed bosses and it explores the whole law/neutral/chaos shit in a interesting setting like nocturne.

In short SJ is the true SMT4.
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>>317649417
I liked the story and dungeons a lot, had a great atmosphere and a fantastic ost, and was fun to just try out different fusions and go through a demon mall or something.

Also, I don't expect anyone else to share in this, but it's the JRPG I had when I was hospitalized with a leg infection for 2 weeks...so I have some personal connection affection for it.
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>>317649796
Oh, the stuff is well designed, but it's so dry, drawn out, and doesn't mix things up enough. I never burned out playing P3, P4, DDS1/2, Nocturne or SMT IV, which are the games I played before SJ.
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>>317649632
So you truly enjoy lazy, time wasting dungeon design? Fucking really?

SJ fags everyone.
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>>317649648
Is Doom too hard for an rpg babby? I keep seeing SJ compared to it but I'm no good with FPS
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>>317649417
Great bulllshit dungeons, interesting enough plot, all that fucking variety, wasn't hard as hell, but you had to be careful, and if you're a sucker for sci-fi and lore every SMT is great
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>>317650125
Doom is ten thousand times better than SJ and the greatest FPS of all time. Play it on babby easy if you really have to.
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>>317650125

Circle-strafing defeats everything that isn't a former human or Arachnotron.

or an Archvile
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>>317647849
Fuck off, the great dungeon design is one of the primary reasons that SJ is such a good game. Persona 3 and 4 are only tolerable because the gameplay is propped up in other departments as well. DDS is just tedious as fuck because the dungeon design sucks dick and the rest of the gameplay isn't very good either.
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>>317649916
What exactly did you think was drawn out about SJ?

Also what's your opinion on Devil Survivor? (if you played it)
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>>317650606
The game's formula is too well, formulaic. You go to sector 1. You get a very localized plot about sector 1. Then you go sector 2 and the same thing happens. Then sector 3. And it all feels pretty much the same, which burns me out no matter how good the dungeons are.

On top of that it has the annoying tendency of forcing you to retreat to your ship half a dozen times each sector.

I haven't played SMT I and II but I get the feeling they're more interesting than this sector business. Never played Devil Survivor.
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>>317650035
Nigga the dungeons are not the time waster
The dungeons are the GAME
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>>317649648
Fucking awesome art anon
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>>317650853
It's half of the game. The other half is turn based combat, which isn't nearly as shit as the dungeons.
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>>317650756
>You go to sector 1. You get a very localized plot about sector 1. Then you go sector 2 and the same thing happens. Then sector 3. And it all feels pretty much the same, which burns me out no matter how good the dungeons are.

Well the same could be said about the persona games and how their story and gameplay progession works.

I think the repetitive nature of the sectors in SJ are offset by the fact you are exploring diferent philosophies and characters in every sector.

Also you should really play Devil Survivor.
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Reminder Heat did nothing wrong and Serph was the villain.
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So who unlocked the secret combo attacks without using a guide? That's some Valkyrie Profile shit right there.
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>>317651219
Data versions=/=real versions
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>>317651250
I got Solar eclipse somehow in the final batlle of DDS1.

Angel and her orbs were fucked.
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>all this bromance during the games

This is my fetish.
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>>317651219
Sera is the villain.
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>>317648946
Cathedral isn't even confusing, it was just really, really long. If you looked at the map once in a while you shouldn't get lost.

Having to visit all the law bosses if you were law or chaos bosses if you were chaos so they could give you a magic feather or something was retarded though.
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>>317651127
Nah combat in SJ isn't that great
If you were playing it for the combat no wonder you got burnt out on it
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Have people finally started appreciating SMT IV? That thing is basically the best RPG for handhelds this generation.
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>>317651806
It's fun but it's got too many fundamental flaws.
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>Unlocked Null Attack
>Tried using it on Demi-Fiend
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>>317651806
I enjoyed more EO IV
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>>317651806
Why don't they release SMT for consoles now?
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>>317651806

I'm still butthurt about Fiends.
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>>317651806
It's not like SMT IV was terrible. I just really wish they would've put Lucifer in the game. Oh well, maybe he'll be in Final.
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>>317651938
Cost/benefit. Much more expensive to make a game for consoles than it is to make it for the 240p meme machine. On top of that they already have most of the handheld assets from games from over a decade ago. New HD demon assets required the creation of Persona 5.
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>>317651913
>being a masochist and actually trying to defeat demi-fiend

Same with Satan, fuck them.
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>>317651806
I had my issues with it. I hope Final is great though.
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>>317651806
Hell no. SMT4 is the weakest SMT game.
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>>317647849
I can't wait to see you make a angry thread about how Persona 5 is 2hard when it comes out.
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>>317651913
Cute
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>>317651938
They just decided to sit out this generation. They'll start pumping them out once Persona 5 releases and they have that engine ready
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>>317652190
>P5 releases
>First dungeon is a simple enough tutorial
>Second dungeon is Eridanus
>Literally just Eridanus, exactly as it was presented in SJ, even in first person, but with a visual tuneup
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>>317651806
It's a great game but there are times in which Smirk fucks you over and there is shit that you can do to stop it. I almost popped a fucking blood vessel during the Asura fight
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>>317651635
>But what about...our contest?
>We'll postpone it
>I'll just give you da win...brudda
>Thanks brother
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>>317616610
I feel like after you get Sera back the game's plot takes a turn for the weird. Things seemed more clear and concrete up until then, then it got trippy as fuck. Also things like the seeming relevant and Angel being both Sera's mother and father. Also, Angel seemingly having some sort of plan but when you get to the airport it gets revealed that she just wanted to fuck with you. I liked DDS1 and DDS2 but I felt like DDS2 is inferior plot wise
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>>317652357
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>>317652724
She had a plan right up until around the time the apocalypse started. Then she had a desperate attempt. Then you accidentally the EGG and she just wants to fuck with you.
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>>317652724
Angel just wanted to destroy the world, including herself, she was full of hatred for David's death.

She was sick of humanity.
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>>317652357
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>>317649417
It gives the core SMT experience with a lot of content, customization and grinding. The plot is also considered acceptable if you are a fan of SMT and know what's the background behind every faction and such.

It lacks things like characterization, dialogs, 3D, waifu etc which they obviously worked towards in SMT4 but at its core it has all the reasons why you play SMT.
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>>317652357
>they bring back assigning each party member a demon but keep the Press Turn light gameplay
make it happen fatlus
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>>317653058
>it lacks dialogs, 3d, waifu

fucking cancer
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>>317651806
Personally I will never forgive SMT4 because of the bullshit fiend hunting mechanism. It's like the game is trying to inject extra autism into your brain.
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>>317653058
>It lacks things like characterization, dialogs,
Fucking what. The characters are the only interesting thing in SJ.
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>>317653058
>it lacks waifus
FAILURE AS A HUMAN
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>>317653068

I really hope they have something like PQ's subpersona system for the other party members.
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>>317653267
They're one dimensional and completely uninteresting.
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I would try a persona game but the waifu simulator is what turns me off.
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>>317652912
Maximum an hero
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>>317653345
just do the cathrine thing and disregard bitches and only social link with the bros, there is a shit ton of words in every Persona regardless though
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>>317653345
So play Persona 1 or 2
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>>317653491
Those aren't Persona games.
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>>317653345
It went full SoL and dating sim in P4 and P4G, you can play P1 and P2 just fine. Maybe you'll even like P3
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>>317653526
Don't be like that mate
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>mfw I grow a dick
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So what was the word they forgot?
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>>317654153
Did Serph's dick overwrite Sera's vagina? Or did they become the type of futa that has both a dick and vagina? Balls or no balls?

These are the questions that keep me up at night.
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>>317654484
They have both, as well as balls. Same with Angel I think.
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>>317654484
Penis, vagina and balls
Tits too.
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