Xenoblade Chronicles X is an RPG, a game for RPG and Xenoblade fans. We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release.
http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/nintendo-explains-why-xenoblade-chronicles-x-lacks-substantial-marketing/
>>317595661
Well that's retarded, it's a huge budget game and it's a December release.
Hell some of the fans are on the fence about the game given the recent fiascos
>>317595661
>we didn't market because we assume everybody already knows it exists
Interesting plan, Nintendo
>it's a game for fans
>fuck the fans lets censor it to appeal to people who aren't fans
JUST
>We are trying to market XBC to the fans by not marketing
>Despite this we are doing everything we can to piss off XBC fans
Holy shit
>>317595661
WHY RPGS DONT SELL IN AMERICA GUYS???
>Nintendo in charge of smart marketing decisions
You know they're right
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING NINTENDO
>>317595819
This. Nintendo just wants another game released for holidays, they don't care about anything else.
>>317595912
Not really, they could hype this game up for normies by showing "cool mechs" and fucking up giant monsters
He's not wrong.
I can't wait for the NX to bomba.
Not completely illogical. The only problem is why the fuck did they go out of their way to piss off core fans with censorship. I'm still really excited for the game but now it's basically impossible for me to get anyone on the fence interested
>>317595912
They might have a point if censorship wasn't a thing.
>>317595945
they prob think mario tennis and yokai watch will be the holiday games
>I thought that OP was baiting
>it's real
ha
>>317595661
>Nintendo advertises cheap shitty tennis cash grab
>but not this
He's not really wrong.
Normies would sooner buy the new Mario Tennis.
and yet, i still won't ever buy this despite knowing it exists because its on a failure of a console
>We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release.
That explains the huge marketing campaigns for games like Wind Waker HD and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash.
>>317596071
Mario sells
>>317595819
Fucking this
Holy shit how can nintendo be so retarded
>>317595661
>We won't spend on marketing because the people who will buy it were ready to buy it since the announcement.
>That's why we changed the game-content for the people who would have bought it anyway.
This game is gonna be a flop.
>delay until christmas
>censor everything
>"for dedicated fans"
JUST
>this is a game FOR fans
>but fuck those fans, we're censoring shit
BRAVO NINTENDO
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>>317596132
Not when many say it's the worst in the series this wont. And for good reason.
>>317596195
>When the game flops NoA will blame the lack of fans or their lack of dedication
sasuga Capcomtendo
>>317596195
>>317596205
>>317596206
censormind
>>317595819
>censor a game to appeal to non-fans
>don't advertise to non-fans
>>317596132
I hope mario tennis flops hard and forces them to rethink their marketing.
>>317595661
>a game for RPG and Xenoblade fans
Wrong. This can be a good entry level RPG for even non RPG enthusiast.
>We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release
That's not how marketing works.
CLEARLY something like Xenoblade doesn't require marketing since fans already know it exists.
Their efforts should be focused on things like Mario Maker, Mario Tennis and Zelda since nobody knows about those franchises and has no fans.
>>317595661
So thats why all those other huge rpg like witcher and fallout got no marketing. I was wondering for a while now
>>317596332
Well I hope it flops because mario tennis was barebanes and looks like no effort went into it
>>317595661
We get it Nintendo, we get it, you hate money.
>>317596352
>Wrong. This can be a good entry level RPG for even non RPG enthusiast.
The game honestly seems way too complicated to me for more casual gamers
How do you successfully market a JRPG in America?
>>317596225
>>317596332
>>317596413
It's selling pretty great actually.
>>317596195
Homura did everything wrong
>>317596469
Wow. This world is fucked up.
>>317596225
FO4 plays like dogshit but people still bought it in droves.
That's the beauty of marketing to normies, they don't care about quality, they just want games.
>>317595661
Wait, so they acknowledge it's being released specifically for existing fans and not a wide audience but they still censor it to not offend people?
>>317596448
By saying it's from Square Enix. Or slap the Final Fantasy logo on it.
>>317596393
Mario and Zelda have mostly casual fans who need a reminder. Hardcore RPG fans pay attention to what games comes out and when
Nintendo of America hates Japanese games.
>Waahh why is nintendo marketing x game
>Waahh why is nintendo not marketing y game
Will you ever be satisfied? What does change to you anyway? You already know about the game, it's not like you're a normie who only knows about vidya that appear on tv.
You don't fucking only want the core fanbase, you want to get as many people as playing as possible.
It's not even that hard of a rpg, couldn't nintendo just say-
>XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X
>WITH MECHS, SPACESHIPS AND HOT LADIES
-They would get so many normie bucks.
Instead they are gonna get a audience that probably won't buy their other games.
>>317596469
Source on sales?
>>317596469
Of course, because it's mario, no wonder they put no effort in the game if it's going to sell
>>317596448
You translate it, then announce it, make several posts about it talking about how awesome it is, make commercials for it to air on TV a couple weeks before release, and then you release it.
Remember how FF7 had a massive marketing campaign that got millions of previously uninterested or unaware customers to buy it?
Remember how FF7 sold so well it changed the face of gaming for the next decade following it's release?
FF7 was shit, but people will buy it if you market it hard enough.
>>317595661
This shit gives me bad flashbacks from my saturn.
I got fucked hard by SoA that time.
This is Atlus-level retardedness.
And those guys would print 5 copies of a game and then complain about how awful their fans are for only buying 5 copies.
>>317595661
CAN I POINT OUT SHE LOOKS MORE GROSS THAN PS2 GRILLS
Not enough potatos in their diet
>>317595661
Exact same excuse yoshida gave for why sony doesn't market vita games...
>>317595661
Is Reggie the Vince McMahon of Videogames?
>>317596592
>The Nintoddlers go to excuse for the censorship was to appeal to a larger audience
>This happens
Gee anon
why are you so fucking retarded?
Nintendo is bad at marketing
It is known
>>317596704
>B-but Sony!
Every fucking time.
>>317596714
Someone needs to assassinate him.
>>317595661
Nintendo hates money confirmed
pack it up
NX is already dead
>>317595661
Guys, I'm honest to God starting to think some insane billionaire secretly bought all Nintendo-stocks and is starting to give them one kooky business decision after another just for shits and giggles.
Other than that I can not explain this behaviour lately.
>>317596642
Totally different situation. XCX is not gonna wow anyone with graphics and a presentation people haven't seen before
>everyone who knows about it is buying it
Well, ok that's fi-
>still censor the shit out of the game and make stupid fucking name changes
Fuck NoA
>We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release.
And then they completely shat on them by censoring the game so the normies that don't even know the game exists wouldn't get triggered.
Nintendo needs to either die or perform a serious restructuring like sega did.
Let's not forget about Iwata saying
>We are releasing the game late because we want fans to look for the impressions of the game in Japan and feel the hype
>The game gets alright reviews
>Mediocre user reviews
>>317596798
It basically has the best overworld in any game to date
Before you shitpost me, try to prove me wrong
>>317596643
>WiiU is not our future
totally
>>317596882
Biggest overworld =/= best
Are you people seriously implying that Xenoblade Chronicles X would've sold millions with good marketing?
The censorship IS the marketing you idiots.
They pay Z E R O for TV commercials and marketing (substantially saving money), and instead change things in the game that push bloggers and fans to cry foul so loud that the game gets engraved into everyone's conscious by word of mouth alone.
>>317596948
Good thing he said "Best"
Is Reggie the Bernie Stolar of Nintendo?
Pretty sure they didn't promote it a lot because they knew of the high visibility the CENSORSHIP would have to the potential buyers of the game
>>317596960
Splatoon sold millions and it had good marketing... anything is possible
NoA is Sega of America tier retard
If they know fans know the game is coming out, they should also know that fans hate the censorship of the game. They censor the game to pander to a casual crowd and then they actively don't market to those people. It's absolutely ridiculous how retarded this is.
>>317596761
Anon, I'm not defending. I'm saying look at how Sony treats the vita and its userbase, talk to vitagen and they hate how sony does things, and yet Nintendo supposedly cares despite behaving exactly the same. Wiiu a deadman and Nintendo doesn't care for its fans at all, on top of censoring their games.
>>317596960
No
It's just that if you know the people who want to buy your game are watching it's every move, why would you go out of your way to piss them off?
>>317597006
Yep, expect "I'M REALLY FEELING IT" shoe horned in the game
>>317595661
Makes sense. Xeno games have been on a decline on a while now. If you didn't care for the previous games, then there's a chance you were never going to be interested now. It's not as if people haven't heard of Xenogears/saga/blade until now. Those that stuck around should have long known about this game and would have gotten it whether or not it had been advertised.
>>317595661
>OPTION 1: this is a game we're aiming for a large general casual audience, we are going to market it heavily, so we better censor it up and not bother with stuff like dual audio because only fans care about that and we're planning on making them a small percentage of sales.
I do not like this, but I understand the business case and can accept it. Note that these days of digital distribution and a "restoration DLC" can mean no zero sum.
>OPTION 2: this is a lower budget game we are not going to spend heavy market $$$ on, thus making it profitable to target to existing fans and get new people via word of mouth. We'll make it as good as possible to appeal to them as much as possible, thus maximizing ROI and increasing the long tail. Not only no dual audio, possibly sub-only to get it to market as quickly, cheaply and unchanged as possible.
Also a fair alternate strategy that works for lots of companies. More profit per unit, small unit count and much lower overhead means it can still be a solid seller. And lots of small pebbles (a few hundred k dedicated fans over and over) can add up to a significantly profitable overall audience who will not abandon you easily and will do a lot of your marketing for you out of genuinely loving your stuff.
>OPTION NOA: market like shit, aim at niche, then SPECIFICALLY SPEND MONEY AND TIME on making it LESS APPEALING TO THAT NICHE. Shit on everyone involved in general, then ignore it.
Fucking wonderful. God damn it. Why the fuck to publishers do this? I get mad about censorship and shit localizations in general sure, but for AAA shit I can at least understand the business case for it. I'm not 12 years old, I understand sometimes companies do in fact have to make business decisions that we may not like, that's how things go. But when bad decisions are made AND THEY AREN'T EVEN ECONOMICALLY RATIONAL? It's just because some ancient fucktard in management is still living in the 80s/early-90s? Yes god damn it I am mad.
>>317596919
As someone that work on marketing.
I want punch Reggie in the guts, seriously.
But they have already made tv-commercials for it.
>>317597121
>Xeno games have been on a decline on a while now.
Lol what?
>>317595819
Jesus Christ. Just when you think NoA could not be any more retarded.
>>317595661
>make a bunch of pointless changes to appeal to normalfags
>doesn't market the game to normalfags
what is the fucking point?
>>317597093
>"I'M REALLY FEELING IT"
>with an American accent
Yeah, can't wait.
>>317596984
And it actually gives the opposite effect by pissing existing fans and making them cancelling their order.
>>317595819
God fucking damn it, Nintendo is literally retarded.
>>317597163
Where? Haven't heard or seen any mention of commercials.
>>317596984
Well I know I'm not buying the game anymore so if that what they're going for the are succeeding.
Yes and those fans arent buying it because its censored
At least Im not
>>317597175
Pretty sure normalfags love tit sliders, cuz muh titties... it's the sjews and christian parents they are afraid of
>>317596984
>people who aren't fans and are neutral to the changes react with "who cares"
>people who aren't fans but enjoy the changes will react to criticism with keyboard-warrior tantrums that don't result in sales
>people who are fans feel shunned by the changes and reconsider their sales
At best you get a small spike in sales followed by an inevitable downwind. At worst you piss away the goodwill and what could have been a respectable sales count turns into 5 digits or fewer. Look at the comic book industry - their motto is practically "no news is bad news" and marketing relies on pissing off the hardcore and pandering to shallow slacktivists, and sales continue to tumble down.
Nintendo aren't the only ones to treat their RPGs like this. Sony, Sega and more do the same in the west. The general assumption for everyone except Square is that the JRPG is a self-sustaining genre in the west at this point, where marketing it is an unnecessary expense because the gain is a risk while relying on the existing market isn't as much of one.
And Square is the only exception because they are literally THE JRPG company, and their biggest shtick is AAA JRPGs.
>>317595819
They do it for themselves Anon
Treehouse is apparently SJW as fuck
I'll do some marketing for them
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-of-america-nintendo-of-europe-nintendo-for-the-suppression-of-xenoblade-s-censorship-and-the-reinstatement-of-the-japanese-voices?recruiter=433104634&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
sign and don't buy
>>317597053
its almost like they have something in common...
>>317597089
Because they're still probably gonna buy it anyways. I'm not sure what their reasoning is for censoring, but most people don't really care about a boob slider missing
I don't understand.
If they already knew that only neckbeards would buy it, why the hell did they even bother with the censorship that only soccer moms would find offence in the first place?
Everything they are doing and saying do not match.
>>317597251
jap version
cutting NOA out
>>317597259
Nah, they think only virgins care about changing titty sizes.
>>317595661
Since when doesn't giant robots, giant worlds, and giant creatures appeal to the mainstream normalfags?
>>317597216
>>317597216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0UdSw9a5hgI just stumbled upon it please dont hate me if its wrong
>we don't know how to advertise something that doesn't sell itself
I already knew this
>>317597038
>ur a squid now
>good marketing
>>317597283
>Petitions
>Working
>>317597317
Because they know even neckbeards can be censorship apologists.
>>317597283
Get fucked. The game didn't sell tok good over in JP & you want it to perform even worse overseas? Fuck off you selfish entitled cunt.
>>317597163
Where?
I just saw mario kart and splatoon ones.
>>317597317
To justify their existence. The treehouse´s
By changing things they are being paid by nintendo a lot, they are making themselves look useful to japan
>>317597409
Well it was a catchy slogan.
>>317597409
It was actually very effective... the memes made from that video was great marketing for better or for worse
>>317595819
You have a really good point man.
It proves that NoA is retarded.
They should leave the localizations to NoE, i think they would do a better job. They even make better trailers.
I live in Portugal and i saw the E3 trailer on a large screen in the vidogame section of a popular store in my country. They actually doing it right.
>>317597310
>They'll still buy it
epic
you should go check out nisa's online shop front some time
they've still got 3 year old collectors editions of games on it
>shitty pokemon mystery dungeon game gets commercials over xenoblade x
BRAVO
and then they proceed to cry when no one buys it
gg nintendo
>>317597419
If it's not the game it's supposed to be, it's not the game that deserves to exist in the first place.
Buy the jap version if you're so concerned about "gotta support the developers" bullshit
>>317597384
they didn't grow up with mecha shows so giant robots are "for nerds" to them
>the game has a niche market
>don't market it because the game has a small market
>censor the game to piss off your niche market anyway
FUCK YOU
>>317596332
aren't you a special snowflake.
>>317597053
>>317597295
>NIS America is similiarly moronic
It's like the "America" in it immediately drops the IQ to one-digit.
>>317597574
No because I want to show Nintendo America that we want these kind of games
>>317595661
I can kind of see where they're coming from, but not wanting potential new customers is fucking stupid.
>This got more attention than Xenoblade Chronicles X
>>317597164
Check the sales charts. Xenogears, Xenosaga, Xeno-whatever. It's been either on a decline or just simply holding steady for a while now.
>>317596984
>le all pr is good pr maymay
God damn it you retards are going to repeat this shit forever aren't you? This saying was ALWAYS confined to a few, specific markets, and it dates to back before the Internet and social networks too. PARTICULARLY when a company is specifically counting on a hardcore group of high-information hardcore/fans for marketing and word-of-mouth to drive sales rather then appealing to a mass number of low-information general consumers, it is not merely ineffective it can be a kiss of death.
Again, yeah "controversy" can be quite helpful for mass stuff, because merely getting somebody conscious of it at all may be enough. Since most people out of necessity can't pay too close attention to details and won't necessarily be bothered, it works fine. The niche that do are too small a fraction to matter. But when the "niche" is actually meant to be the majority of sales? No, then things flip.
>>317596448
You do whatever Square did right with Final Fantasy 7's marketing and then consistently got wrong ever since.
>>317596523
All you need to succeed is brand recognition and cute girls.
Quality is nothing but a waste of time and money in the long run.
>>317597623
don't forget Atlus USA
>>317597623
At least NIS hasn't censored much as of late, dangan ronpa AE had no censoring and that game has actual controversial stuff.
>>317597650
And you'll just get more censored treehouse docturing bullshit
Fucking moron
>>317597520
Shibata is a gamer
Reggie is a fat nigger
>>317597531
I can't believe those shitty, weeb, niche games didn't sell well
>>317597650
You are going to show that you don´t mind if they butcher these kind of games.
I for one am enjoying Mario Tennis and have no interest in Xenoblade
Sucks for you guys though.
>>317596469
You have to be bullshitting me Anon
>>317597737
>he doesn't know shit about anything
good to know
>>317597661
Xenoblade isn't remotely similar to Xenogears or Xenosaga. Stop lumping three different IPs together. "Xeno-" is a metaseries, not a series.
How pissed off is the xenoblade creator right now
Censored to shit and no advertisement
Gotta advertise mario fucking tennis man
>>317597623
SCEA
NOA
NISA
Atlus USA
Capcom USA
... I could keep going...
>>317597783
Good talk
>Nintendo marketing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2JRs5pTSOU
>>317597398
Commercials, everyone.
Lets whine about how bad these are instead.Theyre actually not that bad
>muh Censorship
Instead of blaming Nintendo, blame your shit culture that forces developers and publishers to abide to the censorship.
For a starter, work on the pedophilia paranoia plaguing your society.
>>317595661
That's horseshit. The same could be said for literally any game. The point of marketing is to reach the fucks that DON'T know about the game, and to hype up the people that do.
And it's CRUCIAL to hype the people that do know about the game, especially in the face of bad news like censorship. You need to remind us why we want the game.
Nintendo is terrible.
>>317597753
Yes Alison we know.
>>317597753
Do you get off to that? She literally has no ass, and has just enough bump so it doesn't look anatomically wrong, like "yeah this is an ass but we made it so you can barely tell, we HATE IT, fuck asses, so lewd, fuck the human body, we should all be stick figures with no curves, fucking degenerate nature".
Even xenoblade in its current state has more sex appeal than this toddler shit.
>>317597713
I won't let that count, simply because I actually believe that Spike Chunsoft has them on the short leash regarding localisation (one of the very few Jap devs who actually do this).
>>317597847
The fact that he's already working on the next big Xenoblade RPG, I'd say he's probably pretty happy actually.
>>317597847
He seems chill and fine judging by E3
Probably still shocked and grateful that for once in his life his career is going successfully. He most likely is okay with the changes in localization
>>317597919
Pretty sure Allison would have censored that butt.
>>317597134
I think it's because it might ruin their family-friendly image they have with the public, so they have to censor every game, even the ones the casuals won't bother with.
>>317597731
He worked at Pizza hut, and he is greasy as Pizza the Hutt
Thanks nintendo
>>317597398
>Zee-noh, not Zen-oh
>>317597623
>>317597869
They're smart enough to still be making games that sell.
I'm sorry your niche weeb shit is too under-the-radar for your shitty market ;^P
YOU'RE A KID
YOU'RE A SQUID
YOU'RE A KID
YOU'RE A SQUID
YOU'RE A KID
YOU'RE A SQUID
You know how to market a game, Nintendo. Just fucking do it.
>>317596642
>FF7 was shit,
Well meme'd my friend
>admits only loser weebs will buy it
>censor it anyways
So the reason for censorship was NOT to get more sales? It was just because it HURT THE FEELINGS OF SOME CUNTS AT NOA
Nintendo is the laughing stock of the game industry, how the mighty have fallen
>>317596669
underrated post
>>317595661
>Latin America
Are you guys stupid?
>>317597847
He doesn't care
Nobody in Japan care what amerifats think or do...
>>317597917
Nobody wants to be "that guy who defends pedophiles."
You'd be better off putting them out of their misery.
@317598039
(you)
>>317597179
>They probably think Xenoblade fans are all MLG people
>>317597828
That's the thing. Whether you like it or not. Xeno-whatever is a franchise just like Final Fantasy. Gameplay differences makes no difference when it comes to branding.
>>317597996
They didn't care about that when they released Mad World and Bayonetta.
In fact, for Mad World there was actually quite some controversy but they released it completely uncut anyway.
>>317597970
>He most likely is okay with the changes in localization
He said he isn't, in the typical evasive japanese way.
>censor the game to shit
>for absurd reasons
>don't market game
>"the ppl who are gonna buy the game know it's coming out."
Nintendo of America, go to fucking hell. Thanks to this game, Fatal Frame and a slew of subpar games coming out in the next few months combined with nothing but AMIIBOS this year, I'm done. Enough is enough. Maybe they'll wise up and fire the idiots responsible for this censorship bullshit when they see they're getting no funds.
>>317598047
>>300000000
>>317598109
>>317597957
>>317597970
Probably the best attitude to have
Fuck the gaijins, Id be racist as fuck too if I were Japanese
>>317597917
It isn't illegal to show all the stuff nintendo has censored. Nintendo has literally no legal obligation to censor anything, and from this interview they have no economic obligation either because the core that wants this game doesn't care about sexy parts and in fact would rather prefer sexy and lewd, as weeaboos and 2D porn go hand in hand.
Nintendo is doing this not because of "culture" or any silly shit, they're literally on a high horse and think they hold a moral compass and that doing this is the right thing to do. They're basically telling the people that might be interested in this game that "this is wrong and you shouldn't enjoy this", essentially they're not looking to sell a game they're looking to spread a message, at the cost of your 60$ off course.
Fuck them and stop defending them shill
>>317597731
he does the most interesting Directs because he actually dresses up. What a bro
>>317598184
How so?
>>317598189
>>censor the game to shit
dude what? It's literally one non outfit and a slider bar. You eat more censorship whenever you play korean MMOs.
>>317597917
Its not our culture.
Its a vocal minority of ugly fat crazy feminists
>>317597398
The U.K versions are much better. No annoying voice over.
>>317598109
Trust me, nobody in the world cares what America is doing
>>317595661
How fucking retarded Nintendo is?
Why would you censor and overlocalize something if the intended audience hates that?
How stupid can you really be?
Shitposting aside, they are going to market this game, just not much up till the release
OPs article got things mixed up..
>>317595661
>we wont market it because why bother.
>>317595661
the hilarious thing is that even if the stars aligned and everyone at NoA suddenly stopped being pants on head retarded, XBC is already thoroughly tainted by their PC sjw bullshit and they can't even fix it.
>>317598213
It's simpler than that
A higher up in treehouse said "eww tits remove them" and they did
If the game flops, they'll fire some random dude, if anyone, and she keeps her job
>>317598096
"THEY ARE DOING IT TO INCREASE SALES" FAGS APOLOGISTS BTFO
T
F
O
THEY DID IT FOR SJW REASONS
FUCKING CONFIRMED
>>317597847
doubt he even knows what changes they made, or that they outright removed content with no replacement
Guys,the censorship isn't that big of deal
>>317597917
Yeah, nobody has been "forced" to do anything.
This is simply the result of putting a few defectives in charge of something. If they are removed things like this won't keep happening.
>>317598183
These are not Nintendo franchises. The casuals usually don't associate these with Nintendo.
>>317598451
Censorship is always a big deal, only a child would fail to realize this
>>317595661
Nintendo are retarded
who would've thought
>>317598404
lovin these facts
Nintendo of America is right, thou.
I can't believe Nintendo of Japan sells CP
>>317595661
>they're gonna use the EXACT same reasoning for the inevitably cut content in #FE when they're gonna release it
Just you fucking wait.
>>317598183
Nintendo actually caught flak for both of those games. Whether you like it or not, it did affect their image towards the family-entertainment market. Although given that both games are Platinum games, maybe it's more of the trust between the two than it is about trying something new?
>>317598551
You only hurt yourself with falseflagging
>>317598350
Source
>>317598451
Self-censorship is the worst thing that can happen to a society. It's all downhill from here.
>>317598532
Only a manchild would complain about no boob slider
>>317598451
If you're a čuck maybe. It wouldn't be a big deal if they actually were trying to make this game the next skyrim or something and were trying to hit for mass market, in which case I can see why a few censors would be necessary.
But they're not doing that, they literally censored the game because of some butthurt SJW and that's that, because they know the people who will buy this game are low test neckbeards who don't fight back.
If you buy this you're a čuck. It's all about the message.
>>317598551
Here's your (You)
>>317598451
>game where a big feature is making your custom character
>outright removing customization options is not a big deal
fuck off
>>317595661
>Nintendo Explains Why Xenoblade Chronicles X Lacks Substantial MarketingNo one even cares to be honest family
>>317598541
It's called having a job at a corporation
There is always a tyrannical woman with terrible ideas
This is why Kamiya was mad at them lmao
>>317598651
I will complain about all censorship no matter what it is.
Skells is a way bigger deal for me than the boob slider.
>>317598213
Fucking this.
>>317597917
Eat shit faggot. "We" (as in America overall) have done our part by making sure that legally we have the strongest Free Speech protections on the entire planet. Nintendo doesn't need to censor anything. Not only that, THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TO GET IT RATED. Movie/vidya/anything ratings have absolutely zero legal force, the ESRB and the like are literally just industry associations created for marketing purposes. The Supreme Court explicitly ruled vidya is covered by the 1A (as if there was any doubt but whatever) well over a decade ago now.
We can't change everyone but the entire point of free speech is we don't and shouldn't have to. It changes things to pure economics and for niche titles that should be fine. As above anon says, Nintendo of America does this shit, which even AAA publishers don't do, purely because of "moral guardian" BS and to justify their existence and budget to Nintendo. Because if it costs zilch to bring over the likes of XCX, just paying for translating the text and that was it, done in 3 months and released for a good price, well that doesn't justify exorbitant salaries and expenses now does it?
>>317598395
Eh, Capcom has been heads-on retarded with the PC SJW bullshit and it still hasn't stopped people from buying their game.
>>317598685
Literally warum
why are people latching onto the boob slider and skimpy outfits being censored instead of the story elements?
>>317597691
They literally just showed some cinematics from in game which were completely mind blowing at the time combined with a history of Final Fantasy games that were well received.
Unless Nintendo plans to show completely immersive virtual reality with this game, I don't think they can copy Square.
>>317598642
>>317595661
>e will be focusing activity initially around Xenoblade Chronicles fans, and then broadening out to wider RPG fans with a tightly targeted digital campaign. Due to the highly visual nature of this game, we are concentrating on video formats that show off the many stunning facets of the title, including the huge open world, giant alien monsters, and the awesome Skell transformations.
We have a wealth of Wii U games that will be part of our Christmas campaign, including Splatoon and Super Mario Maker. However, Xenoblade Chronicles X is a more serious RPG offering, with stunning graphics and sweeping sci-fi story, and so we expect this to open up the Wii U to the more hardcore RPG audience who won’t want to miss out on this future genre classic.”
>take out lewd costumes from a game that was going to be rated M anyway
>censor the lewd costumes for the underage to keep the rating at T but don't advertize and admit that fans are the only ones buying it, also no jap dub
I can't understand this logic
>>317595661
>We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release.
IF THEY KNEW WHAT THE AUDIENCE WANTS THEN WHY DID THEY CENSOR SHIT? WHERE IS THE LOGIC????? A:SKJG:LDKGJDAS:LGKJSDA:LGHSDA:LKGHSDL:JGHSDLKDG
>>317598860
because the first two are confirmed by images/video evidence? retard
>>317598761
Am I the only one who thinks Capcom has actually been one of the coolest companies this year? Like say what you will about MM 1-6 HD or Gold Megaman amiibo but
they have done some pretty cool stuff this year
>>317597698
In that case, Xenoblade X wins because ofdelicious brown KOS-MOS
>>317598860
because non-issues being removed shows the hypocrisy at Nintendo
a literal boob slider
CONTROVERSY SELLS
>>317598882
>future genre classic
lol yeah right
>>317598882
Please excuse me I have severe autism.
Link here:
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-uk-on-xenoblade-xs-audience-and-marketing-pleased-with-xenoblade-3ds-performance/
>>317598676
>that guy who goes into a 200+ post thread full of discussion just to say "Who cares?"
Gee, I don't fucking know, maybe the other 87 other fucking IPs discussing the subject you stupid prick. What a useless piece of fucking shit you are.
>>317598860
because they spent time and money removing such a trivial thing from the game, instead of hiring better voice actors or doing a better job with the script
>>317598946
>pretty cool stuff
>some upscaled ports with new models
Can you Capcom shills fuck off?
>>317598602
>Nintendo actually caught flak for both of those games. Whether you like it or not, it did affect their image towards the family-entertainment market.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Despite the controversy they released those games completely untouched anyway, because they wanted more variety in their library and because they thought there would be an audience for those that would appreciate it.
>>317598685
Got a link to the article about this claim?
Nintendo stop giving people reasons to shitpost about this game, there exists plenty already.
Only /v/ cares about censorship, the rest of the internet is completely ok with it to the point that they ban you if you even mention it.
Never change guys
>>317598860
>waste money removing things instead of reducing the cost of translation and localization allowing a larger profit from a niche series
It's pants on head retarded.
>>317596049
>forgetting PSMD contender GOTY
>>317595661
>assuming everyone knows it exist and it will come out
Ahh, the Rise of the Tomb Raider strategy. Lets see how Itll pan out this time
>>317598950
T-ELOS?
>>317598451
Its more of a slippery slope sort of deal,
Will I get, XCX? yes
Am I happy with the changes? No
Let NoA know that shit.
>>317599161
Gotta fight dat sjw boogaman that destroys muh games forever
@317599161
>the internet is okay with it
>but they'll ban you if you talk about it
>>317599161
hey samefag, stop
>>317598976
This hasn't worked since GTA 3 (or Manhunt, I forget which came out last)
I wish these censorship apologists would understand why we're mad. It's the fact that literally no other Xeno game has been censored, not even the original Xenoblade, but now that Nintendo localized X the censorship is just fine. If you were a real Xeno fan, like us, then you would be complaining too.
>>317595661
Then why did you censor the fuck out of it you fucking shitfucks?
>it's for rpg fans
>rpg fans are most likely 12+
>still remove bikinis and religious references
I'd hate to see a game made for non-fans.
>>317599102
>b
Or they trust Platinum games to not worry about their content. Because it seems like it's mostly their games that doesn't require any changes. Which is why I am skeptical of anyone saying Kamiya bashes Nintendo considering how supportive they have been to him and his company.
>>317599161
>No, you can't talk about content removal
>I'll ban you if you try to
What fucking shitty ass website do you come from, faggot?
>>317599012
"who cares" should practically be an autoban, it's possibly the most mind boggling retarded thing to write in a discussion like this possible.
>hundreds of people arguing and discussing it for weeks if not months at all hours
>lots of threads
>gets coverage on the wider web too
>show up weeks down the lines and tens of thousands of posts later
>"lol who cares XD"
>mfw
Everyone in NoA needs to get fired. Im fucking done with them.
Everything coming out from their mouths have only made me increasingly pissed.
EVERYTHING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@317599246
>comic books
>>317599090
Upscaled ports are happening across the board, dude. Everyone is doing it.
>>317599012
Nintoddler, pls.
No one gives a shit, why do you even care? You don't, you just want to shitpost on an anonymous image board
>>317595661
Marketers in the west are the most laziest fucks, the don't even try to push anything with out massive AAA following anymore
>>317599161
This, /v/ is the last stand against this.
Never give up. All the apologists are trying to kill it here too.
>>317599323
Even the ones responsible for Kid Icarus Uprising's GOAT localization?
>>317599273
>It's the fact that literally no other Xeno game has been censored
Here's your (You).
>>317599273
>no other Xeno game has been censored
That simply isn't true.
>>317599273
Wut? Xenosaga had a ton of censoring. It was a huge deal back then, I even waited on playing them until fan undubs came along that restored the content.
>>317599406
That was a shit localization too, it rewrote the whole fucking game
>but I like it better now
Thats not the point you cum guzzler
>>317599424
They weren't not even in the slightest you fucking toddler.
>>317598294
The game is already sold out on amazon and the only ones who care are too busy making hate threads than doing any actual work.
Your hobby belongs to normies anon, and unlike you, they're happy with anything they get and are easily swayed by ads.
>>317599269
Seriously? This is 4chan, not 2chan. English motherfucker, do you speak it?
>>317597691
The "marketing" they did for FF VII was that it was an actual good game.
They didn't really market it, they just sold it, people like it, and word of mouth did the rest to enhance its success.
With almost every game released nowadays word of mouth = death of the sales, because most games suck nowadays. That's also why they have to market shit like crazy now.
>>317599406
I havent actually touched the game yet so i wouldnt know
>>317598080
They were always notoriously faggots.
>>317595776
>it's a December release.
Not only that, with Zelda U and Starfox 0 pushed back, it's their ONLY December release beside Devil's Turd.
>>317599489
I hate when people improve on a product too my friend
>>317596448
keep the weebshit to a bare minimum
Kinda like most FFs did.
>>317599334
>>317599256
>>317598145
at first I thought this was a joke or trolling....who is this guy
>>317599406
Especially those.
>>317599582
It was not an improvement in any way.
>>317599489
Anon, Sakurai told them to go ham.
>>317599528
He complained that there were no ads for wonderful 101 anywhere, not even magazine previews
>>317599368
It's less "a valiant last stand" and more "look at those losers mumbling in the corner."
>>317595661
>Latin America
You almost got me.
@317599612
>he hates missing out on the rush of getting a (you)
>>317599634
Sakurai like all japs couldnt care less about what the stinky gaijins get
>>317599582
>>317599628
Both of you prove your claims.
>>317599498
Are you fucking stupid?
>>317599746
So you've got examples then?
>>317599572
>there were pitchforks raised because /v/ thought NoA wasn't going to release Devil's Third at all
>as soon as they confirm the game is indeed releasing and as a physical release people get mad because it wasn't Fatal Frame that got this treatment
>game releases and everybody everywhere hates it
>now it's just "Devil's Turd" and nobody even wants to bother with it
>>317597917
>forces developers and publishers to abide to the censorship
>>317599528
Haha stupid EOP
>>317599676
That's like four blocks of texts to your one sentence. Transcript those moonwords here or link it to the original twitter feed. I have read too many lies on /v/ to trust you.
>>317598080
>Nintendo is the laughing stock of the game industry, how the mighty have fallen
In all seriousness, NINTENDO WAS ALWAYS LIKE THIS. When they were kings of the vidya world with the SNES, they pulled this constantly, that was a huge part of the reason 3rd parties left in droves for Sony. It wasn't just hardware or whatever, it was the plain and simple fact that Sony's main direction for 3rd party devs was "do whatever the fuck you want." Which did result in plenty of garbage shovelware of course, but also gave us two of the best libraries ever made.
There was a brief period when it looked like they were going to try to change and adapt to the world during the GameCube era. Where somebody realized "oh, all those big fans of us who got NES/SNES? It's been over a decade and now they're all adults and while they'll still like the old classic fun stuff they might want some different variety too." But that ended up getting killed pretty stone dead and now they're firmly in their old rut, but no longer with ultimate market power.
>>317599908
neck yourself you retarded idiot
go type that in google translate if you are literally braindead
>>317599932
BUT THEY GOT BETTER IN THE GC AND WII DAYS
IT WAS GETTING MUCH BETTER WE HAD COME A LONG WAY SINCE NES DAYS
AND NOW IS BACK IN FULFORCE
>>317599796
Here you lazy prick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg9OYyPIYNk
>>317599829
Devil's Third was a big mistake
>>317599868
Stay mad, you third world trash.
>Refuse to market the game because it's for a niche audience
>Then alienate said niche audience because of no dual audio, shitty localization and censorship
>Game flops
>GUESS THE WEST NEVER REALLY WANTED XENOBLADE HUH. BETTER STOP SUPPORTING THE SERIES AND NOT LOCALIZE THE SEQUEL. OH WELL, THAT'LL GIVE US MORE TIME TO FORCE TEN YEARS OLD MEMES IN MARIO AND POKÉMON!
Brilliant. NoA are fucking geniuses at being lazy and saving themselves future work.
>>317595661
To be fair, you really don't see a whole lot of marketing for JRPGs in the US. Commercials are non-existent for anything that's not Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, or a Mario RPG.
If you are lucky, you may see a magazine spread for a Tales game somewhere.
>>317599731
I wouldn't know if english was better because I don't speak moon, but I thought the localization was great and peoplevery feware too obsessed with a localization changing things. They want a literal translation and I disagree
>>317596302
They're right as hell though
>>317600017
Reminder that Xenogears was localized by one man
>>317600020
Why did they give Oatmeal Cookie a chance?
>>317600029
I live in the good old us of a
Everybody forgets the biggest offender about this game´s localization
NO DUAL AUDIO
I think at this point most Wii U owners are ok with the system getting killed early
>>317598451it isn't even censorshipstill bullshit, but people are overreacting way too much
>>317595661
Jesus fucking Christ. Hiroshima needs to bomb NoA HQ. This is so retarded. I remember being a teenager seeing the commercials for FFX on TV and I didn't even have a PS2, but I wanted to get one to play it. Why they wouldn't think they could do the same with a game that looks like this is fucking beyond me. Truly they are trying to tank it, right?
>playing Japanese games in English
>>317595661
>Yeah I mean we could advertise it and get a new audience invested, but then we'd have to actually do work, you know?
>I mean who cares about a game that isn't Mario Tennis or Yokai Watch anyways?
>Oh also we changed a couple things for the audience to better represent America.
All the places ISIS could be attacking right now and NoA's still standing.
>>317600008
I swear it's the treehouse that's causing all of our problems.
NoJ is great and NoE is pretty decent (at just doing what they can).
>>317600167
You can't fool me, you sandnigger. US doesn't need any language other than english. All other languages are irrelevant and trash compared to english. Anyone learning any other language is a commie traitor.
>>317596573
Yup, or they just hate actually doing work
>>317600056
>Brilliant. NoA are fucking geniuses at being lazy and saving themselves future work.
This. The higher ups are likely all salaried/pensioned out that whazoo like nip companies, the lower tiers get chickenfeed and can be booted whenever, so this all works out perfectly. They justify a high budget because
>"bring games to the west is so much work!"
then they can excuse when things don't sell because
>"oh those westerners they aren't real fans and don't like anything new!"
resulting in getting the same money for less effort. Main Nintendo doesn't pay much attention to anywhere outside Japan so they'll never notice anyway. Mission accomplished!
>>317600397
Funny thing is
Yokai Watch performed absolutely poorly.
>>317600130
I want to meet the Ninty exec who looked at the game and said "Yep, this seems quality" and slap the shit out of him.
That is basically saying we know no one else will buy this
Which is sad as I was going to buy it and a WiiU but they have handled stuff so badly lately I'm not any more
>using the same marketing strategy that they also used for the Wii U
>>317600318
>Truly they are trying to tank it, right?
Isn't that obvious?
People are saying this is just plain stupidity, but I'm sure it's just malice on the part of NOA that would rather this game die as soon as it comes over than localize anything but Mario & Co. ever again.
What if this was a pc game?
All the problems would just disappear...
Don't like the censor? Kotor 2 style patch that restores it.
Don't like frame rate being 30? Unlock it like in tales...
Wii U is garbage? PC has largest install base.
>>317596638
This, please remind them how martering works
Do we atleast know the english voice cast?
>>317600473
>Yokai Watch performed absolutely poorly.
That wont be determined until holiday shopping is done.
>>317600473
B-b-but those HILARIOUS jokes with REGGIE AND BILL
>>317599010
That seems to be NoE though, so unless they run a coordinated campaign I doubt NoA's attitude will change.
>>317597520
>leave the localizations to NoE
So they can add retarded name puns, rewrite the script, change names, alter personalities, remove costumes, and remove the already miniscule amounts of blood?
You seem to not be aware of how much they messed with on Xenoblade and Project Zero 2.
>>317600503
If you weren't lying I would call you an idiot
So sad to hear. This could have been WiiU's big game for a season.
>>317595661
>We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release.
It sold like 400k on Japan, that's less than the first one did if I remember
>>317600570
Next Monolith game will be on PC
mark my words
>Nintendo has a new console coming out soon
>Customer satisfaction with Nintendo consoles at an all time low
whose ready for that blunder?
This would be so easy to market.
>OPEN WORLD
>HUGE MECHS
Boom, instant cash flow.
Watch me do it again for Fatal Frame:
>SURVIVAL HORROR WITH SPOOKY GHOSTS
>HOLD THE CAMERA IN YOUR HANDS WITH THE WII U GAMEPAD
>RELEASES IN OCTOBER
Holy shit why am I raking in so much fucking money?
>>317600570
why do you have that picture
>>317596638
You forgot to add put some pretty cut scenes in
>>317595661
>it's for fans of these types of games
>change terms fans would have no issues becoming savvy to and censer content
JUST
>>317600570
We can always just wait for the WiiU to get homebrew or for the emulator.
Either way, even if the game goes to console, there's usually a way to get fanpatches for the thing, if the fans care enough.
Although, it can take forever.
>>317596651
>Altus
I'm sorry what game?
>A few days ago, Gamedots published an interview with Dianne Segovia, manager of marketing of Nintendo for Latin America.
>First, Gamedots mentioned that Super Mario Maker and Splatoon received big marketing campaigns. Xenoblade Chronicles X, on the other hand, seems like it hasn’t seen the same sort of attention. Segovia said in response:
“Splatoon was a new IP and we had to start from scratch in terms of introducing it to the public. Mario Maker was a title that served as a celebration of 30 years of Super Mario Bros, and that’s why we had to make a big deal; it was truly a grand celebration, not just any video game launch.
"Xenoblade Chronicles X is an RPG, a game for RPG and Xenoblade fans. We didn’t do anything too big because the audience for the game already know it exists and is already attentive of its release.”
>Next, specifically talking about Latin American Nintendo, Gamedots asks who the audience is for its commercials. That prompted the following comments:
“It depends on the game. Right now, to promote the Wii U, we’re launching commercials directed towards parents who have young children who don’t know much about the console. They are the target audience right now, and thay’s why sometimes the commercials can seem a bit childish.
Games like Super Mario Maker had two commercials, one for kids and one for adults. This was done so that the adults could be appealed by the nostalgia, and the kids would be attracted to the use of GamePad and other novel elements.
"In Splatoon’s case, we used a song for the commerical. The commercial’s design made it look like the game was only for kids.For situations like these, to attract adults, we bring the game to public spaces so the general public can get to know the game and play it.”
>Game flops
THIS IS WHY WE DON'T LOCALIZE JRPGS
>Censoring games in a day and age where everyone has access to the internet and can very easily look up the original in seconds
What's the point?
>>317600296
I really don't think people are overreacting too much though
Let's just say there are many people who are slightly annoyed that they voice their dissatisfaction.
But since there are so many people mildly annoyed, they form a large collective voice that seems larger than it is.
Thing is you either get complains like this or you get no complains at all. If anything i think the amount of complains are just right.
>>317600748
Can't wait for Dreamcast 2: Electric Boogaloo.
>>317595819
>allow game with questionable content to be released on your system
>media picks it up and runs stories, tarnishing your rep as family friendly
Yeah, Nintendo are gonna do that, right?
They already had Manhunt 2 edited heavily for content, so why not other games?
>>317600609
Doesn't change the fact that they did advertise it, and it didn't sell. Unlike what everyone said that if they advertise it, people will buy it. But then again, /v/ can't into business.
>>317600318
>Truly they are trying to tank it, right?
Not even joking, I honestly think current NoA is so lazy, they don't want to localize anything more than essential Nintendo-titles.
So they purposefully do a shitty as possible job without going to overboard with it and tell in the end "See? No one wants it, now time for my copy&paste English script for the next Mario."
Bomb confirmed
>>317600709
>This could have been WiiU's big game for a season.
It practically still is by default because the only other Wii U games to come out that season are phone-games-tier shit like Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis.
>>317596638
>make commercials for it to air on TV
What was the last JRPG commercial you seen?
So it seems your JRPG is at a brink of a crashPurchase Fallout 4
>>317600873
>localizing games in the first place when you can just import them
What's the point?
Why does NoA even exist? Why do we NEED an american branch?
>>317600570
>What if this was a pc game?
It would get pirated and no one will buy itOh wait that's what would happen in the WiiU as well
>>317597278
>Treehouse is apparently SJW as fuck
I was waiting for SWJ hunters, you guys are pathetic
>>317600729
Can't wait for mr PC to buy Monolith from Nintendo
>>317600902
>media
>le online SJW tabloids
Does anyone actually give a fuck about and read those aside from the same people that write them?
>>317600978
Bloodborne.
>>317599186
Tomb Raider died because TR is a Sony IP that MS paid to have exclusive to them for an entire year, they were retards
>>317600762
>HUGE MECHS
It doesn't help make it appealing to American
>>317596394
WRPGs and JRPGs are different
>>317598069
>FF7 was my first RPG: the post
>>317600902
Didn't stop them from publishing mad world or bayonetta 2.
>Niche game
>No advertising
>Christmas
>Only a dying console
Well, that's why you don't make a game that is all set up for a sequel
>>317601038
Go fuck yourself Alison, since apparently nobody else is doing it.
>"We always listen to the fans
>so we're just going to do whatever the fuck we want anyway, like always. Have fun"
>>317601006
To dick everything up
>>317596882
>It basically has the best overworld in any game to date
Actually that title belongs to Fallout 4. It has everything an open world needs to be perfect including top notch graphics and immersive AI. This is affirmed by the fact that the number of copies sold is more than the amount of owners of the Wii U.
>>317598651
Only a normie or shitposting asshat would mistake that derogatory insult as valid a counter-argument .
>>317600762
'Murricans dont care about giant mechs, its why Pacific Rim was a total flop in the US.
>>317598657
>>čuck
Chuck ?
>>317601124
MadWorld's content was slapstick, and Bayonetta 2 never had any questionable content such as minors and breast expansion bullshit.
Deal with it.
>>317601006
>What's the point?
Region locking. Translation.
Xenoblade bombed as fuck in the west, what are you guys expecting?
>>317601154
The sequel is already in development actually.
>>317601196
Fuck off, Tood. You've already gotten my bux
Instead they advertised that Animal Crossing amiibo shit, Yokai Flop and Mario Tennis. Fucking NoA are retarded
>>317595819
Are you a fan of the xeno games or boob sliders?
>>317601006
>Why does NoA even exist? Why do we NEED an american branch?
Because Nintendo is still the only one with region lock.
>>317601056
Yes, if no one did there would be no ad revenue and the sites would close.
>>317601094
The fuck? Americans love mechs and robot battles in general. Where the fuck do you think MechWarrior or Transformers came from? Were you somehow under the impression that Pacific Rim was not immensely financially successful?
>>317601241
lots of games including the sims have breast sliders you fucking moron
NO FUCKING DUAL AUDIO WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING AND WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE OUTRAGED FUCK YOU
>go out of your way to remove parts of the game and alter shit when leaving it all intact would be less effort
>still say it wasn't worth the effort to at least fucking market the game
WHAT'S THE POINT
FUCK NOA
>>317596049
>>317600473
>>317600397
>>317601284
>based Yokai Watch getting brought down with shitty ass Mario Tennis
>>317601303
>Were you somehow under the impression that Pacific Rim was not immensely financially successful?
it wasn't, it was a complete flop in the US. the only reason it made a profit at all was because it was a surprise success overseas.
>>317600762
Yes, with that marketing, these will all be successes much like other open world games like Wildstar and TOR! And my god, marketing for horror games, they will make billions, I tell you, much like the later Silent Hill games.
>>317596448
Release it in 1998.
>>317601241
The sims is T rated and has a breast slider
your move nintoddler
>>317601038
It's true though localizers do change thing out of their personal politics and wanting to get rid of misogyny. See for instance the newest change in Blade and Soul.
>>317595661
Looks like they don't want the WIDER AUDIENCE
>>317601006
>Why do we NEED an american branch?
I can't read nintendo
>>317600807
This is the reason why Nintendo will NEVER be "cool" in the hands of NoA.
They just assume that adults would know what they want and kids don't.
So they devote their resources in attempts to get the kids who know nothing, when the resources could actually be spent on actual players that can spread the word and amplify sales.
The will forever be stuck in the cycle of "chasing the new generation of kids".
This is the reason why Sony is selling so much too. They don't bother wasting their time shooting for kids with no money, but actual teens and adults that can influence sales.
>>317601332
But its not being performed on something that looks questionably aged, and you have to remember, vaguely "anime" look = "hentai" in the average persons eyes.
As soon as they hear breast sliders on an anime girl, they'll think porn.
You don't think this through, do you?
You know when shitposters often said on Xeno thread how this game will be on better hands on a Sony (or whatever other) plataform?
Well they were right.
THEY WERE FUCKING RIGHT AND I'M MAD AS FUCK REEEEEEEEEEE
>>317601196
Todd hates nintendo, never worked on any of their plataforms.
He is the same kind of hypocrite faggot from /v/, that never played or own the plataform, and shitposts.
>>317601284
I'm a fan of games not being picked apart for content that is in a game like the Sims. I've played all the Xenosaga games and have over 120 hours logged on Xenoblade, I won't be buying this product.
It's still their biggest game coming out this Holiday season thanks to Zelda and Star Fox missing the boat and they could do more to treat it as such. Market it as their answer to FO4 or some shit, idk.
Hell, that garbage Mario Tennis game is getting more fanfare. But the sad part is that it would probably sell more regardless.
>>317596132
But why would you need to market Mario?
It advertises itself
Everyone knows it's censored too :3
>>317601429
How is 150 million dollars a complete flop you fucking moron?
>>317596607
Yeah, this game seems very easy to market. It's not a conventional JRPG. Just brag about the huge world. Compare it to other open world games that normies loe.
>>317601524
True
Also modern kids don't give a shit about Nintendo IP's
They just care about Minecraft, COD, etc
Poor Nintendo, they still think that 2000 kids are the same as 80/90 kids
>"there's no market for Xenoblade"
>fans do all the marketing themselves
>game sells well
>Nintendo increase the budget and expand Monolith Soft to match the western exposure the series has gotten
>game costs more
>need more sales to break even
>"we don't need to market the game, there's already an audience for it!"
And XCX is going to flop and that will be the end of our high budget JRPGs.
>>317601524
And also kids look up for what teens and adults like to determine whats cool
Holy shit is nintendo backwards
>>317601462
Its not a Nintendo game.
CHECK MATE
>>317601265
Who cares? It'll never come out here.
>>317601550
>But its not being performed on something that looks questionably aged
MC isn't a child, retardq
>>317601241
>rated T for teen
>on a nintendo console
>>317598213
>>317598754
Or or or or... It's a little girl in a bikini and it would literally be a PR nightmare for them if normies found out about the 13 year old girl in a bikini running around.
Last thing Nintendo needs is shit in the media about them supporting sex crimes like every news channel will most likely spin it.
>>317601425
Why is Yokai watch supposed to be based?
Passive battle systems where you rotate a wheel doesn't seem that fun, and thats the reason I didnt get it
>>317601573
Why does Coca Cola spend billions on advertising every year?
>>317601425
Yokai is gonna die either way.
The designs are too obscure for american children to find "Cute" or "Awesome" besides the obvious ones.
Also, I noticed that the ads they are running on TV have removed the "Yo-kai is why" bit at the end, but they kept the parts that go like "*Insert Yokai Here* is why"
>>317600762
That's weeaboo logic.
You want western audience?
> MATURE STORAAY FOR MATURE GAMERS !!
> All the kawaii uguu are now Manjaw McTrannies
> No revealing sexy outfits
> Mechs are now much less sexy, rusty hacked up transformers
> GORE AND BLOOD!! EDGY SHIT ALL OVER THE PLACE!
> STAR FACTOR! Main character is Liam Neeson model, voiced by Hugh Jackman.
> EXPLOSIONS EXPLOSIONS EXPLOSIONS
> SEX, but in a totally consensual emasculating way.
> RATED M
Done.
>>317601259
The first Xenoblade hardly even came out in America.
Gamestop exclusive with the whole fucking debacle of freshly printed copies being sold as overpriced pre-owned copies. I bought my copy of Xenoblade a year ago and it was $60 "pre-owned" despite the disc being fresh and the manual and club nintendo also being new.
>>317596984
This only works as a strategy if you reverse all those changes before the game hits the market.
Otherwise you just lost a lot of your core aduience and those are the ones reading the news anyway. Nobody is gonna read up on Xenoblade because some weebs scream about some little changes.
I am sorry, but basically everything Nintendo did the past three years shows that the marketing department is utterly retarded. Even if they have great ideas like the Nintendo Direct or World Championship they fuck it up by not marketing these events well enough.
>>317601567
Well that doesn't make sense, since the core game is still there. I guess you don't like the games that much after all if you'll let osmething as insignificant as a boob slider decide your purchase
>>317601701
Raise her age then.
Problem solved.
>>317601585
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacific-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/
It only made as much as Cowboys and Aliens, retard.
>>317601585
>How is 150 million dollars a complete flop you fucking moron?
It's budget was almost 200 million. That's a flop without the extra help.
>>317601695
>received no marketing
>not even a single mention at any big Nintendo event unlike Xeno
>>317601694
She could easily be mistaken for a minor, especially by someone who doesn't know the game.
Stop thinking about it from your perspective for once.
>>317601452
But Xenoblade looks better than those games, is a retail release, and has mechs.
They wouldn't market Fatal Frame as HARDCORE HORROR, it would be marketed as spooky survival horror. Basically make it look like FNAF and other shit normies lap up and then run with it. The gamepad acting as camera is a novel idea that would easily become a hit if they let some faggot e-celeb stream it and make commentary.
>>317601712
Tax evasion?
>>317600779
I'm an oldfag
You probably don't remember, but this was a thread and some overachiever drew that mario picture for it.
>>317601823
>She could easily be mistaken for a minor,
no she couldn't, fuck off
all of your arguments are complete bullshit anyway since NoA isn't marketing the game to normalfags. the only people who even know it exists are the core fanbase
>>317596960
Xenoblade sold a million without any marketing whatsoever
>>317601657
I'm really fucking annoyed.
It might just be best to try to bait people into buying it with a Fallout 4 comparison. On other websites of course.
>>317595819
This. You can't have it both ways.
>>317601806
Isn't Pacific Rim 2 confirmed to be coming?
>>317601567
>I've played all the Xenosaga games
Do you know how badly Xenosaga was censored? The changes in X aren't even comparable to butchering that took place in the Xenosaga trilogy, fucking research shit before you post.
>>317601959
It was cancelled.
>>317601585
150 million? The hell are you talking about. It barely broke the 100 million dollars market in the US. Worldwide sales accounted for the other 300 million dollars in revenue. It costs 180 million dollars to make.
>>317601959
nope, it was in planning but now its on indefinite hiatus, basically cancelled.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/16/pacific-rim-2-on-hold-possibly-canceled
>>317596984
>that the game gets engraved into everyone's conscious by word of mouth alone.
That the game being "censored and ruined, FUCK NOA, PREORDER CANCELLED!!" is good marketing?
>>317601718
>SEX
Only gay sex is acceptable in video games, otherwise it's gamergate trash.
>>317601791
They did that, and they STILL removed costumes.
>>317601959
Besides that
>3 Godzilla movies
>Ultraman movie
>Gamera reboot
>Ultraman X is being aired in america
It's good to be a Kaijufag
>>317602040
>>317602007
Del Toro confirmed that the movie script completed and the budget for it
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/659756334842183680
>>317601476
>It's not a matter of censorship or anything like that
what the fuuuuuuuuuck
>>317596984
I canceled by pre order long ago because of all the shitty changes so that didn't work so well.
>>317597398
why can't NoE be a marketing waifu?
>>317597398
>so climb into a skell
This sounds so fucking awkward, jesus fuck. I only did introductory marketing as an elective at ui, but I could do a better fucking job than these hacks
>>317596984
>having your business show up on the news because of a murder taking place there is good advertisement
>>317602136
that doesn't mean the movie will get made you fucking imbecile
They didn't even want to localize this game.
>>317601654
Open world has been over-saturated in the US these days. Look at how many open world survival games on Steam alone. And then you have to compete with mmorpgs and any other games being released at the time. Market it is easy, it's getting people to notice said marketing, that's the hard part. There's really nothing unique about it other than it being a weeb game.
>>317601934
>featured on Nintendo Directs
Sure, its completely niche and ignored and noooobody knows about it.
https://youtu.be/1WxvPIzZ5ok?t=21s
And yes, you could easily say she looks like a minor.
>>317601884
I wonder now.
What if all that bullshit market from some games is just tax evasion and money laundry?
>>317601794
>Cowboys and Aliens
That was a great movie.
>>317602198
No imbecile, but there is a huge chance considering that they have the budget for the movie.
>>317602224
>you could easily say she looks like a minor.
well she's not a minor so you're just objecitvely wrong, sorry.
>>317596984
Well it made me not buy a WiiU when I was convinced I wanted one this last summer
So, good job?
>>317597623
It's because they let American women and embodiment's of male white guilt work at their companies.
>>317602140
Well, it's not. Nothing is ever censorship, anon.
It's just...changes.
This game could totally have had wide appeal. Giant robots, giant monsters, muh open world...
They were just scared to market it.
>>317602285
How is he objectively wrong? He's not saying she IS a minor you gigantic faggot
>>317596195
>>317596205
>>317596206
Is NoA the most retarded compamy in existence?
>>317595819
Actual xeno fans are hyped for the actual game and couldn't care less for pedo bait
>>317601343
The game isn't even fully dubbed, so it isn't surprising there's no dual audio. Literally couldn't fit on a disc.
If it comes out and there's no "7 additional voices pack" and "Japanese pack", then people might bitch.
Why are they purposefully sabotaging sales for their games lately?
>delay Yoshi for no reason
>Fatal Frame digital only
>delay Devil's Third, no E3 exposure
>refuse to market Xenoblade, easily the biggest game to hit the system
>release Mario Tennis far before the game was finished
I DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAND.
>>317601476
>include some genuinely questionable and uncomfortable content [...] make it something more welcoming
Is this actually real? What an utterly narrow and fucking disgusting view on storytelling. Not every story has a "good" ending, sometimes uncomfortable things happen, and sometimes you disagree with it. What a world we live in.
>>317601476
>"The whole thing was presented in a *very* questionable manner that sent up a lot of red flags while the quests were under review."
>questionable
>red flags
>"I was personally in charge of rewriting the entire quest line"
>"It's not a matter of censorship or anything like that."
ARGHLADSLFKJFGLKH;AKLRULAKDJSFLKDASFGJKLAJ
>>317602404
Close, but there are still far worse companies in the vidya-industry alone.
It's certainly the most retarded of all the current-gen competitors.
>>317599226
>Its more of a slippery slope sort of deal
I never understand this argument, censorship was much worse in the 90s and everyone ate it up then. It's been more or less consistent since then, there's no slop whatsoever
>>317602487
Nintendo of America just wants to sell Mario and Zelda.
Nothing else.
>Dianne Segovia
Okay I have a name to use when I want to blame somebody, that's cool.
>>317597409
You remember the song, so you remember Splatoon.
Congrats, marketing worked.
>>317602487
Welcome to modern Nintendo, son.
Is your body Reggie?
>>317595661
I honestly don't know a single thing about Xenoblade except that Shulk is in it or something. Is it related to Xenosaga or Xenogears?
>>317595661
Well...they're not wrong.
>>317595661
>Latin America
okay, well I suppose that might have something to do with NoA?
>piddle around and wait forever to announce something as simple as a release date just because they want a holiday title
>change and censor everything for no reason, alienating people
>"it's for the fans who were going to buy it anyway"
Why is NoA the most delusional and out-of-touch company in the world?
>>317602484
What wasnt dubbed?
@317602463
:^)
>>317602484
>If it comes out and there's no "7 additional voices pack" and "Japanese pack", then people might bitch.
For free, right?
If even NISA released a Jap track for free, surely Nintendo will do it as well, right?R-right?
>>317602586
Why are you blaming on her?
If anything, is the retarded decisions of NOA.
>>317602487
>Spacing releases
>No idea, unless they're purposely attempting to stop more from coming over.
>It's shit
>No idea
>Trying to get titles out.
>>317601862
As others have already said in regards to Pacific Rim, mechs is a relatively niche market in US. The only thing it has going for it is open world and as WS and TOR has shown, open world means absolutely nothing.
And horror games in the US? I would laugh but it is such a horrible market for that genre that I can't even make a joke about it. It took pdp and his massive amount of fans shilling Amnesia to make it a success. Every other horror game that isn't a hybrid with FPS has done really shitty. Even Until Dawn only managed 7th place on a sales chart and it was shilled to hell and back, and somehow that is good enough for the developers to plan a sequel.
>>317595819
Because if Nintendo allows pedo bait, the media will be all over them.
>>317595661
>Piss core fans with censorship and retarded localization changes like Skells just to get some normie sales
>Dont market the games for those normies
>Instead relies on the original and pissed off core fans
>>317602664
You do know all you need to do is just click on the post number right?
>>317602661
13 voice options for the main character as opposed to 20.
>>317602093
When I say sex, I mean sex advertising, not actually having it.
>>317602648
No, the interview was about their strategy for Latin America.
The funny thing is that DIanne Segovia confirmed that Cloud will be released in 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZqzuk2wXU
>>317602702
>spacing releases
Do me a favor
another game was released on the exact same day as Yoshi's Woolly World
guess what game it was
>>317601265
source
>>317602736
>SJWs
>a handful of obsessives on the internet
>media
Lol
It's not Fox NEWS.
Do people just not realize how small and inconsequential these little factions of the internet actually are?
@317602751
Of course, or do you think, I type all those numbers?
I really don't think Nintendo realizes just how unaware most gamers are about anything that isn't completely mainstream. Even self-proclaimed RPG fans only know Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts.
>>317602813
sasuga /v/
>>317602758
Are the voice options in japanese just accents or are they personality-"anime"ways of talking?
If its the former thats fucking awesome
I can imagine the English dub options just being a bunch of highly stereotypical english accents
>>317602463
who /m/ here?
>>317602813
Their strategy for Mexico (latin america) is the same as Murrika.
>>317602534
That's the sort of people you have housed up in localization companies now
>>317602516
It's all real. Forum links are on this page:
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/11/blade-soul-censored-by-localization-team-to-make-it-more-welcoming/
>>317602650
>>piddle around and wait forever to announce something as simple as a release date
This was the fucking worst. Waiting forever in radio silence after the japanese release only to get cunt punted like that.
I thought "oh...okay...maybe they'll give it a big christmas push!" but I guess fucking not! 8 month wait for fucking nothing
>>317595661
I feel like I'm reading the sentence of a Sega exec from the Saturn-Dreamcast era.
It really makes me feel like the NX will be Nintendo's Dreamcast, a good console with good games but a console that will kill the hardware side of Nintedo.
>>317602895
*the latter
>>317602828
Literally who?
>>317602487
>Fatal Frame digital only
The series doesn't sell all that much. How is that so difficult to understand?
>>317602902
Right here my /m/an
>>317602758
>13 voice options for the main character as opposed to 20.
This just gets better and better.
>>317602895
It's a collection of every overused anime dub actor there is
also featuring Yuri
>>317602665
Nope, they don't care about appealing to the core audience that likes that sort of thing for their weeb games
But remember they're doing all this for the core audience who'll buy the game!
classic neo-nintendo.
doesn't want to spend any money on exactly what they should be spending money on
>>317602895
They're personalities, the female one had a tsundere personality and a few others and Bayonetta's jap voice was an option
>>317601701
There are 13 year olds running around in Bikinis on daytime television this argument is retarded nor would Nintendo ever be damaged by such an isolated incident.
>>317602917
Where does it say that?
>>317603084
Holy shit yes.
Im playing the JP version ASAP
>>317603146
The interview? They are pretty much doing what Nintendo is doing in murrika
>>317600978
And JRPGs died in America because of it.
>>317602736
Yeah man, I remember when the media shat all over Sony for Criminal Girls.
Oh, wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2JRs5pTSOU
instead they did this
>>317599368
>Thinking this shithole stands for anything of that sort.
Good joke. That was 8place and see how that turned out.
>>317600978
Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
>>317600978
>What was the last JRPG commercial you seen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOvwdVp8Fvo
>>317603314
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/701151-xenoblade-chronicles-x/72865033
>We've approached Dianne Segovia, Manager of Marketing of Nintendo for Latin America, to ask a few questions about their marketing strategy for the region, and to resolve some doubts Mexican players have over Nintendo's future plans for Mexico.
Please don't push speculation as fact.
>>317602708
>Pacific Rim niche
People who said that were retarded faggots. Regardless of what the budget was, $150 million is in no way a "flop" in America. It's not a megahit, but up there for a lot of films, it had a solid enough opening weekend too. Just because studios decide to spend a megabudget doesn't mean sales can also scale infinitely, at some point the market is saturated and no matter how much more you spend you just can't make any more money.
"Niche" in America is the kind of stuff that brings in sub-30 million. There is lots of room though for stuff in between "the biggest of biggest gigahits" and "indie". Obviously something like Xenoblade fits in that space, it didn't have an enormous AAA budget either, but neither did it cost a few hundred k. The mechs aren't a problem for it, the Key-esque faces would be more of a restriction.
>>317598976
Not with niche products and especially not with niche Japanese products. Weebs will spend thousands on your stupid franchise as long as you don't spit in their face. For instance if you charged them 5-10 bucks to put back in Jap audio they would eat that shit up and you would make a profit.
>>317596548
This. I have a friend who bought, and didn't play, Mass Effect 3 because he watched commercials of it that played while Archer was on and said it looked cool.
>>317603084
>and Bayonetta's jap voice was an option
You're telling me, I have to get the Jap version, if I want to play as Motoko!?
Including a Jap WiiU!?
>>317603435
8shits were nothing but a bunch of teenagers rebelling against "oppression"
This thread being already 500 replies proves that /v/ cares
>>317602463
Actual Xeno- fans sperg out about changing the acronym for BLADE and removing religious references in the localization.
They also probably sperg out about the costumes and boob sliders since most of them are huge weebs too.
>>317602902
I'm here.
>>317601006
Do you realize that Nintendo of America work is more than localizing games?
>>317603084
>Bayonetta's jap voice was an option
WHY CANT WE HAVE THIS IN US
GODAMMIT
>>317603530
Cares and does nothing. Even less than that place did.
>>317603424
I have a little brother, he said Yo-kai looks "Too kiddy"
What?
>>317603452
I miss commercials like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgW8rhvW2VQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzUeddOOv7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewcljvJQAQA
>>317603470
so you've seen Xenoblade commercials?
>>317603470
What speculation?
NOA is just doing the same thing for Mexico
There's nothing different.
>>317603617
Still better than the rest of the internet, we spread the word and dont buy it
>>317595912
Absolutely not, the golden age of JRPGs in the PS1 and PS2 era was because they (Sony) bothered to market the fuck out of those games
Meanwhile Nintendo is letting Xenoblade X sell poorly and then they'll blame the market for not buying enough copies when it was their responsibility in the first place to get more people to buy the game.
Eventually Xenoblade X-2 comes around and surprise, surprise, NoA refuses to localize it because of "poor fan demand" even though they didn't do shit for the first two xenoblade games.
>>317600428
pretty much this.
the people in this image are in charge of translating your japanese games, and if they don't want an M rated game to have bikinis they literally cut it because they are SJW shills. these people who didn't go to college get to decide what you do and don't get to see, and are in charge of butchering someones life long work/artistic output. fucking soccer moms.
>>317603482
A lot of movies are flops if you go by Hollywood accounting. In this case, WB wanted to weaken Legendary's position since they were signing a contract with Universal.
>>317603618
He's not wrong honestly. I was unimpressed by the tree house showing of the game
>>317603497
That simply doesn't fit the Nintendo of America vision, friends.
>>317603625
FUCK, I forgot how rad that Metroid Prime commercial was.
>>317603452
What does that commercial have to do with Golden Sun?
>>317603482
Where are you pulling the $150 million from? US market made around $101 million. And it lost to Grown Ups 2 on its opening weekend. Grown. Ups. 2. And Pacific Rim was shilled by the internet culture since the day it was announced.
>>317603625
How did we get from this...
>don't market because fanbase already knows about it
>change name of giant robots because dolls aren't marketable
>>317603084
Didn't Jap Bayo still speak English?
>>317598451
It's the principle of the matter, really. A minor detail was censored because it might harm sales to the masses, but then they claim that they're not bothering to advertise because everyone who cares about it already knows it's coming out.
I don't care about the tit slider, in factI don't even care about this game or the genre as a whole, but it's just one of many terrible decisions made by NoA that I feel the need to express distaste for.
>>317603618
Kids don't want kid games.
>>317598451
it left a bad taste in my mouth whenever I try to hype myself up again.
>>317603943
TO THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl1Dlmf5-nc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fxQx7ZT-5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSmCv7hrPy4
>>317597912
At least they tried unlike America
>>317596448
You change the protagonist into an old man.
>>317603549
>Actual Xeno-fans...
So, what constitutes as a real Xeno-fan?
>>317604125
Nintendo marketing before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO2c_Mre2Nw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDK72y4tHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Mf2mp6fms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgpuGw168k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQO2VtV1PNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K783SDTBKmg
Nintendo marketing now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_cXEgUCs9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6opj_AQgxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T45wUqnmdSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPOSKnOftA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjvuQ5fJBaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awU7XinhZPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXpoOjLD-rU
>>317603549
I've literally only seen one name being changed in order to say that they're removing religious references.
Even that's debatable.
Are there any more?
>>317604505
The Mario Sunshine commercial did suck admittedly back then.
>>317604175
The ones who bought the first game, were hyped about XCX and would preorder it and further spread positive word of mouth getting other people to buy it? I mean, what other definition is there then that? Fans not only spend money but spend more then average on stuff like CEs/LEs and then spread the word. They are always a niche out of the over audience, although the more niche the game the great a percentage of the total serious fans are. For quite niche games practically anyone who'd buy it is going to be pretty into it, and they'll spend a significant amount. That's how something like Muv-Luv had an AVERAGE of nearly $190 PER PERSON for actual backers, and that's assuming nobody does any upgrades after the campaign is over.
>>317604175
people who played xenogears, xenosaga, maybe the xenosaga sequels, and xenoblade
if you've followed the series across 3 consoles from different companies then you care quite a bit about accurate translations and being true to the original version
and playing several JRPGs implies that they are huge weebs who probably love weeb stuff like cute young girls in skimpy outfits or boob sliders.
so, if they had promoted the game would we have a fallout/skyrim hype/disappointment?
>>317604505
God damn the gamecube mario games had some fantastic looking water.
New thread where
>>317604551
Are you serious? They changed a fucking shitload anon. Though in fairness, a few of those changes were in fact actually pretty decent localizations or at least non-objectionable. Others though were not "censoring", there was no religious/sex aspect of any kind, they were just "change for change sake" that were terrible.
>>317601476
Why does this even have to be changed the character you do said quest for is clearly an asshole, are people not allowed to be bad anymore?
>>317604505
I mean, they're not taken from the same angle.
>>317604505
>Dad I miss you
Holy fucking shit, that's great
>>317604745
Not if it makes someone feel uncomfortable.
>>317604595
>>317604606
topkek
You real fans can't even get your definition of what a real fan is suppose to be.
