Without saying the words "Tumblr" or "meme" explain why you don't like this game.
Keep in mind it was created by a small team so mentioning the graphics may not be a good idea.
>>317550829
>mentioning the graphics may not be a good idea
And why wouldn't it be a good idea, faggot?
Of course I don't expect graphical power from an indie game, but the art style fucking sucks and it never justifies the use of 8-bit. Every damn asset and animation is just poorly done. Besides, we've seen numerous cases of small studios making way better looking games than this pile of shit.
Gags are funny and twists are cool, but its gameplay turns repetitive very quick.
Because it's tumblr meme game with shit graphics.
>>317551376
don't respond
it's a pasta
>>317550829
so you want us to explain why this game is shit without using the two words that perfectly explain why this game is shit? i mean i'm sure we can find a way to talk around without using those specific words but i'm not sure what that would prove.
>>317551376
most of the game looks more like 16bit to be honest, albeit in a simple earthbound inspired style
Mettaton made me question my sexuality too much.
>>317550829
but I like this game
>>317551809
it's not gay if it's a robot
>>317551829
>>317551809
So far it seems two people like it.
>>317551628
the words tumblr and memes have nothing to do with the game itself but the fanbase, so no it doesn't
>>317551628
>the two words that perfectly explain why it's shit
>a website
>a word /v/ has never been able to use correctly
What's your point besides that 'it's shit because it's popular'?
HOLY FUCK WHEN WILL THIS OBVIOUS SHILLING BE FUCKING TAKEN CARE OF?
THIS SHIT IS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE AND IT IS GETTING OLD REAL QUICK, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING MODS?
>>317551628
"tumblr" and "meme" are not adjectives, they are fucking buzzwords.
And before that the buzzword of the year was hipster. Same exact thing. I thought /v/ got over this type of shit
definitely my GOTY, but i'm not obnoxious about it
>>317551913
>>317551972
>>317552017
>>>reddit.com/r/tumblr
>Keep in mind it was created by a small team so mentioning the graphics may not be a good idea.
Bad graphics.
>>317551982
https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/text/%22created%20by%20a%20small%20team%22/type/op/
it's just one guy
>>317551982
It's not shilling. It's people talking about a game they enjoy.
Right, I forgot, this is /v/ and that's unwelcome here.
>>317552075
now you fucked up son
>>317552053
Really great point indeed
I would play it but I'm sick of hearing about it so now all interest is lost. Like when all your friends really love a certain song and listen to it twenty times every time you hang out, of course you're not going to want to listen to it in your free time.
>Keep in mind it was created by a small team so mentioning the graphics may not be a good idea.
This was made by 1 guy
>>317552152
NO ITS NOT, ITS FUCKING BEYOND TALKING ABOUT THE GAME IT IS LITERAL SHILLING AND YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE FAGGOT DEVS OF THIS BULLSHIT.
FUCK OFF FAGGOT
AND YES I AM ANGRY
>>317551376
>8-bit
You're a fucking moron.
i do like it
but the discussion on /v/ is braindead when positive and a witch hunt when negative
>>317552152
see>>317552082
It's just a bait thread to start arguments, are you new?
>>317552250
>one of the devs
You mean the one guy?
>>317552250
Behold, /v/ userbase
>>317552208
Yes, and that's probably why it's taking years to be released and the game itself is probably going to be about three hours long.
>>317550829
It's the unholy spawn of Homestuck, Touhou and Earthbound.
>>317552327
So much this
I like the game, but I feel like bothering to type out my complaints for this shit thread would be a waste.
>>317550829
because I haven't played it but I don't like the way people talk about it. I don't often buy into fads, and this game is most definitely a fad.
>>317552741
so...you're a contrarian hipster.
>>317550829
>Keep in mind it was created by a small team so mentioning the graphics may not be a good idea.
That's not an excuse, look up Neo-Aquarium on steam if you want to see what a small team can do graphically.
>>317552461
Those three hours would be more enjoyable than playing Undertale multiple times
>>317550829
I haven't played it so I can't say I like it
I also can't say I dislike it
>>317552825
I wouldn't give anything this boards talks too positively about a try either, you're all a bunch of easily impressed retards.
>>317552327
>braindead when positive
like what the fuck is there to discuss
that's what boggles my mind the most. Discussion of this game should have died a month ago
>>317551628
>memes are bad
>undertale has no memes
>/v/ is full of memes
>you're on /v/ right now and hate undertale
desu baka senpai
>>317550829
Tumblr meme
It is pretentious and full of itself, using in-jokes and references that will soon be dated to appeal to a childish fanbase that thinks the game's contrivances are somehow deep and new.
>>317552268
Why so? The game looks like something that can be run on Game Boy Color. Even if it's not 8-bit, it's certainly inspired by it.
And why are you defending this? Is it you, Toby Fucks?
It insists upon itself.
>>317552152
>2015
>Unironically liking video games
baka
Because it's in no way unique or groundbreaking, there's no unique gameplay elements or anything within the actual, playable game that is redeemable, the caracters are nice though, and they reach awesome levels of depth, but then agiain, this is supposed to be a game, not a TV show or cartoon.
But I get why you guys praise it, we've been starving for good games for so damn long.
>>317552841
what the fuck is this shit
>>317550829
Boring gameplay with no strategy besides memorizing basic attacks.
Limited opportunities for character progression.
Assumes certain things about the player in the genocide route that fall flat when considered for a few seconds, invalidating the story.
>>317550829
Not really fan of bullet hells, and sprite work is questionable. Like Frisk looks like shit while almost everything is not as crappy. What gives?
It plunders and rebrands the entire history of cult video games and JRPGs--clumsily disguising who it's ripping off--then uses all that creative capital to take a dump on the male hero mythos that inspired it all. It's more male suicidality.
>>317553089
>using in-jokes and references that will soon be dated
Ah, so you haven't played the game then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oheHiFbRi5Q
>>317553240
Japanese fighting game where you use various sea life to battle. It's pretty entertaining, if very Japanese. Made by some nips who make games for a hobby.
Better question: how can you tell me it's NOT a meme game?
>>317550829
Oh, and furfags.
>>317550829
We should stop supporting rpgs without a world map to explore. It's why rpgs were pretty much dead the last 2 generations
>>317553546
No matter what definition you try to attach to it, meme as an adjective is meaningless
>>317553107
He's not talented enough to program in assembly
>>317553546
It has no memes in it. Memes it created don't count; by that standard, every game /v/ likes would also be a meme game.
>>317550829
>Keep in mind it was created by a small team
I'm sick of this excuse. I don't care if your game was made by one man in his mom's basement or ten thousand people with a limitless budget. Your game doesn't get a pass on anything because of a small team.
Why is he so perfect?
>>317553820
Fuck yourself with a tentpole, you braindead dumbfuck.
A giant list of memes in the game has been posted 10000 times here, but you deny it because you want to hug your ponies.
This game is neoMLP in every way. Beloved sappy feelsy shit that is beyond criticism. Discussion is pointless.
>>317553690
actual meaning: infectious ideas
reddit meaning: animal images with captions
classic /v/ meaning: clever internet jokes
neo-/v/ meaning: anything I don't like
everything about alphys
>>317553516
wait wait wait... what the fuck? this fat fuck actually made a GOOD review?
>>317553421
I have. It's alright. Not the best, not the worst. But if you honestly think San's meme references will be fresh and relevant in 10 years?
>>317554097
>reading comprehension
As an adjective, not a noun
>>317550829
Its boring and faggy only semi good thing is the battle system and only because its quite original
>>317554006
(You)
>>317554121
That's how you know undertale is a meme game.
If a satirical weirdo knows its bad, then there is something wrong.
>>317550829
>Without saying the words "Tumblr" or "meme" explain why you don't like this game.
Gameplay feels like an after thought. Even for being bullet hell it's boring as piss. Undetale can barely be called a videogame. There's too much focus on the boring story with characters that aren't even captivating unless you have low standards in writing.
It's a good game for it's price, but it was never worth the hype.
>>317552741
>>317552962
I see. I'm sure the world just can't understand you either, can it? You're too ahead of the people around you and can't believe anyone would be influenced by anything.Irony is, someone influenced you to be that way.
God I hate Dr. Alphys. I hate her with a passion. Aside from being a worthless weaboo, she'scompletely willing to put Frisk in danger just so she can be part of a "real life anime" and be a hero. But when you look at what she did in the true lab, she's less of an idiotic weaboo and more of a spineless monster. She killed countless of her own kind, fusing their bodies together into hideous chimeras while taking their souls, just so she could enable Asgore's denial of his son's death. And the worst part is, instead of killing these abominations and putting them out of their misery, she keeps them down there as sick pets.How does the game expect me to like her? How does ANYBODY like her? Fuck Alphys.
So how is Undertale SJW?
Gays aren't inherently SJW. Look at (Nero) Milo. The guy is super fucking gay but he's not a faggot.
So what makes Undertale SJW? I'm not trying to dispute the people saying it is. I just want an objective reason.
>>317554486
This is the most faggot try of a "Burn! That'll show them XD" I've seen in a long time. What are you, 15?
>>317554337
I know a few satirical weirdos who know about a few bad games.
>>317552250
Even with cruise control you still need to steer senpai.
>>317552208
>assets.
>>317554840
I'm not trying to burn anyone.
I'm trying to understand how this person works.
You could say it's interdasting.
>>317554879
I kek'd.
>>317550829
Because it's the most overrated game since FNaF and Minecraft, with an audience on par with those games as well.
It's fine, but it's nothing special. Just because a game breaks away from the norm and does something different doesn't automatically make it a 10/10, that just makes it different.
>>317554486
Nah, you're just uncultured dumbasses.
>>317552152
you're not fucking old enough to post here. why is it so fucking hard for you kids to wait until you're 18 to shit up this place with your garbage?
>>317555219
Undertale tries to desperately be the special little snowflake in vidya and /v/ loves it. Talk about irony. Also, Undertale's fandom is about as cancerous as Steven Universe's.
>>317555340
T-Thanks
>>317555436
I don't know about that, after all, it does originate from Earthbound.
I think the only special snowflake thing would be the in game consequences. You don't see that very often. I thought it was interesting. The Walking Dead series did that as well with the "X will remember that".
>>317552208
wat gam
>>317555709
go finish your childhood before posting again
>>317555780
I did. I didn't like it very much. Uncle Bob wouldn't stop asking about foreskin inspection day.
Just beat it.
Pretty good. Ending was really intense.
Definitely something I will recommend to people, just like Shovelknight.
Now I dont know if I should bother with multiple play throughs.
I don't like the style of humor the game uses.
>>317555709
>it does originate from Earthbound.
Earthbound actually had gameplay and systems in it's battle system. Undertale has none of that. It gives you boring bullet hell instead.
>>317552250
you seem upset
2010:
>/v/ mocks and derides "le epic randumb xD quirky" games
2015:
>/v/ praises le epic randumb xD quirky game as GOTY
>>317555917
Only if you're curious enough
>>317555709
Telltale games aren't the best example to prove your point since the choices you make don't matter. TWD season 1 was a legit good story, but everything else barring Wolf Among Us was just arbitrary and served no purpose other than to progress the plot.
Exposition
Exposition
Illusion of choice
Exposition
Action scene
Illusion of choice
One of two characters gets mad at you because of an earlier arbitrary choice between the two
Exposition
And that's Telltale's GoT and Walking Dead Season 2 in a nutshell.
>>317555942
Your complaint is probably one of the only valid ones because humor is so different to people.
Congrats, man.
>>317555960
I guess to each their own, I thought they were pretty entertaining in a way. They had their own gimmicks like being Blue and Undyne's spears. The whole "MOVE!" "NOW, DON'T MOVE" with the blue and orange kept my attention, you can call me an autistic retard for that but it just did.
>>317556313
Ah right, that's a pretty good point then.
>>317556310
I am but I dont know if I wanna deal with all this shit again, especially the fire level.
Might just read up on it and call it a day.
>>317556313
Oh, and feels to fool you into thinking the game is good because you have to kill a puppy or something. Tugging at your heartstrings instead of coming up with a decent narrative.
>>317556313
What about Undertale is actually about the player choice and not the general narrative of the game? The player's choice in itself is made to just push Undertale's boring as piss narrative.
>hurr durr you're a bad person for killing fictional characters and you should feel bad.
Literally who cares? Even Telltale's Walking Dead did a better job getting me to care about the characters than Undertale.
You play as a gender neutral child. How does tumblr not explain this game?
>>317556652
I'm not arguing for Undertale. I don't care for the game, but I don't have vitriol towards it either. See my earlier post:
>>317555219
If you dislike the game on it's own merits, fine. Just try not to let the rabid fanbase cloud your judgement, since it's pretty easy to hate something when you see it praised to hell and back every time you turn around.
>>317550829
I don't dislike it. I barely know anything about it. What I do know is most of /v/ loves it so it must be fucking terrible. After STALKER, Hotline Miami, and Shovel Knight I figured out that high praise here means it's diarrhea poured straight into my eyes.
You have to be an idiot to fall for it over and over. 3 time idiot is enough for me.
Just entered one of these threads for the first time and its hilarious just how butthurt people get about this game.
Also kinda confused about peoples obsession with some of the characters that were significant for like fifteen minutes at best.
What a weirdly polarizing game.
>>317556652
>Three endings
>Consequences when you kill a character
>The game remembers even if you reset
That sort of thing. Also, hurr durring something is bad when you're arguing. It doesn't make you sound like you're making a point, just that you're angry.
Anyways, you've played the game right?
>>317556919
>Gender neutral
More like gender not known. Toby himself doesn't even wanna give it a gender because tumblr.
>>317556968
>Hotline Miami
>Shovel Knight
O-Oh. O-Okay.
The game is to easy (don't give me that sans fight bullshit)
The game is to linear
The graphics are annoying, there isn't really a constant standard between areas.
I did like the game though.
>>317556968
People who dislike Shovelknight dont know shit about videogames.
Fact.
I haven't seen people this dedicated to hating a game in quite a while. This is high octane levels of autism here. I don't accept that it's just the fanbase in this case because first of all hating a game because of it's fanbase is fucking retarded, and second of all we've had plenty of fanbases just as vocal in the last few years but this game in particular has attracted an unbelievable level of dedicated hate.
>>317555917
That's a comfy looking pig
>>317553739
>programming a game in assembly in 2015
what the hell
It's funny how pathetic you guys look trying to justify your hatred for a good game. How do you manage to be so sad without even trying?
>>317557162
The "consequences" are all tied to the game's narrative. Same with the game remembering resets as well as the endings. It's all narrative driven. None of it deals with deepening the actual gameplay itself. It might as well have been a visual novel.
I got spoiled on most things about the game: Who asgore is, why he wants you dead, who toriel really iss, who flowey really is, what determination actually means, as well as how to beat undyne and muffet's battles peacefully, as well as having seen bits of of san's and the neutral final battle, and all of undyines.
Should I still bother to play the game or will it not be worth it now? Should I wait for me to forget in a few years?
>>317557525
probably still worth it if you don't know about any of the other fights. wont be as good of an experience but there is certainly some content left for you to experience.
>>317550829
The humor has a cloying, "random" style most of the time. It's very apparrent the game dialogue was written like one man's twitter feed, and the "internet" feeling of the dialogue and humor ruins any kind of timelessness the game might have. The Flowey boss was cool at first with the game suddenly crashing, but then became like a stupid inside joke you'd tell with your buddies online. The game is so close to achieving somethint transcendental, but in the end it feels like a garage band effort that I could make if I weren't so lazy and confused. I want my games to have more of an official-type feeling. I want to escape the internet and its stupid jokes, its stupid discourse and vernacular. I want a game to take me somewhere else. Otherwise I could just keep browsing /v/ and never play another game again.
>>317555718
Ghost of a Tale
cu-ck game
I want to sex this goat.
That is all.
>>317557421
I really don't have an argument against that.
But if I can say anything, is that Papyrus's date would've been pretty funny in a VN.
it pushes a destructive and sinister furry agenda
>>317557313
The game was amazing to me at first, but got only worse as it went on. Quit acting like anyone hating this game is worse than any other game, this is /v/ for christ sake. Goddamn fake victimhood like this is why we call this shit tumblrcore
> It's very apparent the game dialogue was written like one man's twitter feed, and the "internet" feeling of the dialogue and humor ruins any kind of timelessness the game might have.
Yes. This. So much this.
But it's one of my favorite games
>>317558218
They're not destructing anything as long they dont kidnap my cat or dog tbqh
>>317552250
Go to bed bud. You'll feel better in the morning
Because I feel like people are trying to push the game down my throat no matter where I go. I haven't played the game yet and I have no plans on playing it right now. The fanbase is terrible and I can't help but think they are reaching FNAF levels of SHIT at this point. I've seen many spoilers by just going through the catalog and random threads that had nothing to do with the game. I don't think Undertale is bad and I wont say it's bad untill I play it myself, I'll admit the game has some decent music (which sadly is also being spammed to death) and that the game might have a nice charm that makes people enjoy it, but I simply hate how the anoying fanbase keeps bringing up the game everywhere, maybe it's my fault for not filtering it.
>>317558686
This is a fair point, a lot of people are talking about it and it's not easy to avoid spoilers. There's an overload of fanart, even the subreddit is begging people not to overload other subreddits. The fanbase is doing the old trick of "Too much". I love the game but talking about it so much just kinda makes it feel... old.
>>317557180
Sans is bullshit, but Undyne is a fair challenge. If only the rest of the game were like that fight.
>>317558806
Old? No, try obnoxious. The fandom tries to pretend Undertale is a game for everyone and that everyone will enjoy it even though it's literally a visual novel, disguised as an old style RPG for the sake of nostalgia pandering.
>>317550829
Soundtrack is overrated, story is nothing to write home about, not enough time is spent with characters to actually develop them, your choices mean fuck all, everyone is so "diverse" and "quirky" that it makes none of them those things, and its humor is hit or miss and its usually a miss
Also small team or not there is no excuse for inconsistency in your entire game graphically. If you're going to keep with a certain look, make sure the entire game is that way.
>>317559185
Oh well yeah, that's what saying something got "old" usually means aha,sorry I just couldnt think of the word.
>>317559185
>even though it's literally a visual novel
fucking retard
>>317558226
>those unaliased lines combined with jpeg artifacts
>>317559882
>massive narrative focus
>shallow tacked on bullet hell gameplay
It's the truth. The gameplay of Undertale has no replay value because it's so shallow. That's dumb as fuck for a game that calls itself an RPG.
>>317552250
>ONE OF THE FAGGOT DEVS
You mean the literally 1 person?
>>317562230
>only VNs have a narrative focus
>its a bullet hell so its a VN
>game with multiple endings has no replay value
What the fuck man.
Its alright to dislike it but the shit you spout is absolutely stupid.
>>317550829
>namefagging as sans
>HUR DURR SMALL TEAM ITS IMMUNE TO CRITICISM
>people keep using "its overrated" or "its _____ is overrated"
How the FUCK does this qualify as legitimate criticism.
First off, all your saying is the attention its getting is less than what you think it needs. That not an actually point towards its quality. In fact it's barely stands up as a point as a opinion even.
Fuck, only hipsters use that shit. STOP BEING HIPSTERS.
>>317553030
>undertale
>no memes
fuck off.
Secondly, an anime image board is a fine place for fresh maymays. But keep it the fuck out of unironic vidya if you don't want it to be a pile of steaming trash; i.e. undertale.
There are like 4 undertale threads on the frontpage. Is the game really losing that must steam that the devs have to go into maximum overshill?
>>317550829
It's tumblr because it says killing people is bad.
Typical SJW bullshit whining about death threats. Fucking idiots don't realize killing people is what made our civilization the greatest. Sure other people killed too but we were the best at it.
>>317550829
Got to the papyrus fight and couldnt get past him, I just wanted a chill game with some humor not this shot
>>317550829
>explain why you don't like this game
But I do like it.
The sexuality of Undyne and Alphys seems a little forced, but I actually found the Royal Guards being gay to be funny as fuck.
>>317562582
>devs
see
>>317562364
>play undertale
>don't think much of it
>only "meme" i remember straight up seeing was the gut mans noise
Oh boy, I didn't realize we had so many meme scholars to tell me the meme lvls of shit. I'll be sure to correct that, by uh, blindly laughing and following stupid memes I guess?Nah fuck that, I think I'll read this instead.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
>>317562624
>>317562732
You can't be this incredibly retarded to bring up such idiotic argument that has anything to do with one or another
>>317562436
>First off, all your saying is the attention its getting is less than what you think it needs.
I think you might be retarded.
It's a reddit meme game.
>>317562734If you get beat by papyrus 3 times he lets you go anyway.
>>317550829
Fanbase. Now fuck off.
>>317562904
>implying reddit doesn't parrot the same shitty scraps they pick up from other actual funny sites that develop original content, all for upvotes and le gold
>>317563001
>
>>317562983
Yes, and Undertale is derivative of that. That makes the games multiple layers of charmless and unfunny.
>>317562365
>what is reading comprehension
The "gameplay" of Undertale is tacked on and shallow as fuck. It's clear that gameplay wasn't the focus so why make it a game and not a just VN? The gameplay in Undertale is as important as the gameplay that fucking HuniePop. Meaning not important at all. It's a chore and boring as fuck.
>>317562902
Remove the Re, replace the A with an I. Delete the second D.
I work 12 hour shifts man ok?
tired
There is literally nothing wrong with this game, /v/ is just full of contrarian faggots.
>>317552461
>years to be released
It took about 2 years to do Undertale. (From Kickstarter to release.) Let that sink in.
>>317552208
>>317550829
BTFO Toby. Please go.
>>317563079
>tacked on
Maybe if you play the shitty non canon runs.
https://youtu.be/Vr4IYjeplJA
>>317563001
>>317563105
Underage
>>317552208
>>317563171
But the secret of nimh is old as fuck you retards
>>317562896
Nice ad hominem you idiot.
Only someone with a modicum of cognition would think killing is not necessary.
>>317562734
wait what
how was that fight a problem?
>>317563215
>that speech sans gives when you goof up 10 times.
I'm going to make a "get" version of that I think. As in replying to, not for getting.
>>317563134
No, I mean "overrated" is getting MORE attention than something deserves. Hence the prefix "over"
>>317563339
No i meant different runs in the game.
neutral pacifist and the real ending.
Because this motherfucker is giving me the worst time.
>>317563339
Thanks for proving my point, now go do your homework Tommy
>>317550829
By a furfag for furgags.
Theme of the story is typical SJW shit.
Gameplay is overrated. The hype that it generates makes an otherwise mediocre gameplay feel like shit,
>>317563145
>nothing wrong with this game
>shitty inconsistent graphic style
>amateur writing
>forces it's amateur writing and narrative down your throat at every turn
>boring uninspired bullet hell style segments as "battles"
>no real replay value outside of forcing more amateur narrative on you.
>nothing wrong
You just have shit taste. I'd rather play Shovel Knight.
>>317563475
>Scary SJW boogie man
Didn't GG loose the war?
Because its just not fun.
I honestly can't tell whats worse, the faggots spouting
>BUMBLR MAYMAY GAME
or the faggots spouting
>WHY DOES VEE HATE GAMES
This is officially the worst thread on 4chan right now
>>317563397
The point is it's not a legitimate complaint about something.
Saying
>I like thing cause this this and this
Is ok
saying
>I don't like thing cause of this this and this
Is also ok
Saying
>I don't like thing cause this amount of people like it!
Is not ok.
In fact, it barely measures up as a point for backing up other points.
>>317563597
Welcome to every undertale thread after the second week of release.
The game didn't let me personally slaughter Alphys.
The game is fucking shit.
>>317563215
>1 fight
>in a game full of fights
You're fucking retarded. And the Sans fight was only challenging to moron who are shit at vidya in the first place.
>>317563582
>Le epic come back xD this dude sure is mad
Your mom is calling you Tomas
>>317563475
>Theme of the story is typical SJW shit.
I see this shit a lot
what the fuck is this supposed to mean? How is the theme of the story ESJAYDUBYAH?
>>317563681
butt
>>317563079
>The "gameplay" of Undertale is tacked on and shallow as fuck.
Its "deeper" than many jrpgs that amount to using your strongest spell and healing abilities nonstop. Or should they also all be VNs because they like to deliver on the storytelling?
And apparently the combat system came first, story later.
I dont get the gameplay complaint anyways.
You actively influence the fights by picking dialogue choices and then battle it out with rhythm and shmup based sections.
Thats unique and neat. Its not even a shmup all the time and delves into platforming and other shit when the souls come into play.
Like holy shit I dont think the game is a flawless masterpiece but your complaints are fucking shit.
You are literally asking for the game to offer less to you by making it a VN, which would be shit anyways.
>>317563656
Sure buddy.
im sure you saw everything in that fight right from the get go.you dont have to like it. you just have to be able to make a valid argument.
>>317553169
this is the only valid criticism now in this thread, everything else just was shitposted and probably samefagged.
>>317553169
Thank god a decent well said response.
butt
>>317563726
>rage faces
you just proved yourself that you're less than 16 years old, here's your (You)
>>317563726
>rage face
what year it is now?
>>317553169
the thread should have ended here
>>317563789
>I've never played a good jrpg
>>317563789
>Its "deeper" than many jrpgs that amount to using your strongest spell and healing abilities nonstop.
Stop playing shitty JRPGs? Undertale's gimmicks don't make up for the gameplay being shallow as fuck.
>>317550829
This has already been settled. Please delete this thread now and kill yourself. Or don't, if you're on a pacifist run.
>>317564094
Stop throwing around terms like shallow without backing up your claim.
Are all shmups shallow to you? Is a modern RPG that actually allows you to influence encouter outcomes through non combat options shallow?
Define what you consider depth or fuck off.
>>317564181
>/v/
>not the second biggest furry board
animal crossing has ruined this board m8
>>317550829
it pulls the same shit bioware does
they make characters who are full cliches and give em a unique look to cater to all sorts of fetishists,people eat that shit up and start getting attached to a pixelated character
fucking tools
>>317564047
>>317563904
>>317563808
>we've been starved for good games so it's ok to overhype mediocre games
That's your excuse? Don't you faggots have fucking backlogs? Your better off getting through that than wasting time with Undertale.
>>317564181
How did I manage to finish the game and not see a single enemy character thats in this picture?
Are they all hidden?
>>317564181
>this game is bad because of fan made content
Holy fuck nigga kill yourself already
Half of that shit is from 8gag
>>317564181
This is the worst image.
>Hating a game because of the fanbase
atleast just say the graphics are shit or something.
>>317564314
it's fun because there's people that deny animal crossing as a furry game, yet by /v/ logic being a antropomorphic animal being it has to be furry.
Waiting my replies...
>>317564373
>why aren't you playing the same games over and over and over and over again
>>317564292
the game literally references yiffing
>>317564251
>Are all shmups shallow to you?
Undertale doesn't represent all shumps or RPGs. Shumps actually have gameplay mechanics in regards to ship types and weapons. RPGs have gameplay mechanics in terms of attacks, stats, weapons, weapon types, enemy types, etc.
Undertale ignores all the things those genres are good for, throws ins a few gimmicks as if that's enough to make up for it, and shoves it's boring narrative down your throat. It's trash.
>>317564373
shh shill, better you shut up because no AAA game got this praised by people who actually pointed out the positive aspects of the games. Every other game discussed in this board always falls on:
>was good enough
>was shit
>mediocre
>i liked it
I hardly see anyone over valuating these games now, and that's mostly because these have things we already expect and really, undoubtely have nothing ground breaking.
>>317564394
>>317564414
Oh the ironing. The game creates the fanbase. I suppose no one here hates FNAF because of the fanbase either, hm? oh wait smfh tbqh.
>>317564181
>he is so fucking stupid he actually fell for the Big Guy joke
How did you even get on this website?
>>317564181
I don't remember any of those enemies.
>>317564538
It does? i dont remember that.
I remember the skeleton making a joke about "hot animals" but it was basically making fun of furries
>>317564635
SO it's not okay to hate Project M for the fanbase but it's suddenly okay to hate Undertale for the fanbase? Cuz that's what /v/ told me
>>317564635
>the games intentionally creates the fanbase it is aimed to be created
if you didn't exactly meant this please correct your absolute crap argument.
>>317564635
>the game creates the fanbase
Do I even need to go into detail about how fucking retarded this is? This is the dumbest god damn thing I've heard all day
>>317564626
>Shumps actually have gameplay mechanics in regards to ship types and weapons.
Undertale has that though. Most fights approach the shmup aspects in completely different ways.
>RPGs have gameplay mechanics in terms of attacks, stats, weapons, weapon types, enemy types, etc.
Undertale has all of that too. Or are you somehow claiming that enemy types dont exist or that weapons dont change how you attack?
And whats most important: It combines them in a way nobody else has done it before while keeping things fresh.
I dont get your complaints at all. You just sound like a bitch to me.
>>317550829
Because it's a shitty reddit tier game.
: ^ )
>>317564635
Jesus Christ these threads.
>>317564871
>i'm part of /v/ now? :D
every time
>>317564251
There are no strengths, weaknesses, resistances, buffs or debuffs which, as far as a turn based game goes, is pretty shallow. The defense phase only really ramps up on bosses, otherwise enemies are nuisances at most, especially since monsters always have 1 fast, guaranteed way to pacify it. Consider, say, SMT, where to pacify an enemy you have to either have a discussion with it or bribe it to get it to fuck off.
Sure the shmup angle is different, and there are color based gimmicks to keep you on your toes, but it's not enough to carry the entire battle system. Pokemon has more depth than Undertale really. Saying this as an Undertale fan.
>>317564871
>tripfag
end yourself
>>317564806
Nah, you're full of shit, I even checked the Wiki's Monster list, guess what? None of them are there.
>>317564939
>tripfag
holy god, you are a total retard new-fag, kill yourself faggot
>>317564726
But anon!
There is nothing wrong with Nintendo's fanbase! Its perfectly normal to cry over a CEO and send $20 on DLC hidden behind a Happy Meal toy!
>>317550829
I don't mind the game but it's fucking retarded fanbase constantly trying to urge me to say something good or bad about it sure as fuck is annoying.
>>317564939
>tripfag
>no tripcode
what is this meme?
>>317564839
>>317564847
>>317564903
How can you be a fan of something that doesn't exist?
Somehow I'm supposed to believe this terrible fanbase existed prior to the game that created it?
Undermeme fans everyone. Case end point.
>>317564981
>mlp is my only example
>>317550829
It made me feel uncomfortably gay for a goat
>>317564635
>the game creates the fanbase
>>317565021
its a pretty new one.
i just started it because i am actually retarded.
>>317564934
>Pokemon has more depth than Undertale really.
Pokemon has more depth than most games. Shit just falls flat because of a lack of difficulty in the story mode and RNG elements.
People need to stop saying this. Its stupid. The amount of variables in Pokemon blow almost everything out of the water.
People play simplistic shit like SMT and think the games are the king of depth just because they got harder tuning, which is something completely different.
>>317550829
If you can deal with the game looking like shit over half of the time, then I don't see any probs with it.
The worst part of this game is its fanbase, full of retards who praise the game for all the things that don't really matter. Or that people only love the game for the fanfiction which on most parts is absolutely retarded.
Also the worst part about the whole fanbase are the tumblr level retards saying "See there is no need for violence in a game" or "There is no need to hurt anyone", like that bullshit has any base in this game. You are in one point assaulted by an incredibly strong monster wielding million spears made of childrens tears, the only reason you don't stab the fuck out of that thing is because you know in a game you will always have infinite chances to try again, which is literally the theme of the game. The pretentiousness got my ass so sore, when people chant in single chorus "true pacifist is canon".
>>317565036
Is there's even a video game you like the most anon, and you like to talk about it on daily or at least weekly basis?
>>317564635
A game can be target towards a certain fanbase but that isn't always the fanbase it gets. DA:O for example, wanted the Baldur's Gate/Icewind Dale-loving audience, got tumblr and SJWs instead.
>>317564981
>pretty sure that whoever made mlp wasn't aiming at "the autist manchildren from internet" audience
Well, yeah?
It was aimed at little girls originally, you know, like the my little pony toys from decades ago.
But somehow neckbreads got all over it.
I still dont get why and how and what went wrong there.
>>317565036
Nigger listen to your argument
>a fanbase is the way it is because of a game because if the game didn't exist then there would be no fans
Do you know how fucking retarded you sound now?
>>317565131
but yet that's your only example, eat shit
After all this time, I still wonder, just how strong would Papyrus be if he went all out?
>>317565215
>I still dont get why and how and what went wrong there.
I'll give you a hintthe website you are posting on right now
>>317565145
>praise the game for things that don't really matter
that's your opinion
>love the game for the fanfiction
I enjoy the game and I've never seen anyone mention fanfiction
>in one point assaulted by an incredibly strong monster wielding million spears made of childrens tears
that doesn't happen
You should take a step back and realize you're booty blasted about nonviolence in a video game.
A video game about magic monsters that breaks the 4th wall constantly.
This thread was purposely made for typical Tumblr shitposting.
Numerous people including myself have already given extremely well thought out critic posts over the month fulfilling all possible filters and limitations you keep shoehorning and yet you faggots never acknowledge any of the points or argument as a whole in a meaningful manner. Several points include but are not limited to: bad and uninspired story/levels/characters, objectively bad game design both gameplay wise and technologically, extremely minimum "gameplay" to the point it's a walking simulator, hamfisted "emotional" ending that tries way too hard to gain an emotion feeling from the player without actually providing a real reason as to why you should care at all, and so on.
And don't use the "hurr but dis iz 4chan!!!" excuse as a copout of thinking out a proper counterpoint, it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand. If that's not the case than most fans of UnderTale just go "well how is x bad or x y?" even when it has already been stated, a cycle then forms of the Undertale fan avoiding and spewing the same question over and over and not providing a single counterpoint.
Hide, ignore, and report.
>>317564181
You're actually retarded if you think anything except what happens in the lower left hand corner is in the game
>>317565230
Its a good example though, what are you moving the goalposts?
>>317554806
Frisk and Chara being depicted as "they".
That's literally it.
>>317554806
A lot of the characters are clearly written to appeal to the vocal minorities in tumblr and the like.
A lpt of "gender fluidity" and "transgender" characters. All females are depicted as strong and independent, while all the males are dumb to some degree. And you have a lesbian romance.
I'm not saying any of these are inherently bad, but there's a clear agenda here, and it's obvious Toby did it to appeal to tumblr, and it worked, since they then shilled for him.
Reminder that if your argument is being BTFO that's because you're less than 18 and you have to stop using this website prior Global Rule 1, else you're just shitposting, have a nice day.
>>317565376
Even then, that's to keep the character's gender ambiguous so you can name them whatever you want and self insert if desired.
>>317565301
He'd be pretty tough.
While he wouldn't have Sans' abilities ofcheatingandgaster cannonsand the like, all he'd need is the intent to kill to be a truly awesome threat.
Alack, he will forever be a spagettimancer.
>>317565376
And Undyne and Alphys' genders not being overtly clear at first.
And Metatron changing "genders."
>>317565437
>All females are depicted as strong and independent
>alphys
>while all the males are dumb to some degree
What about Sans? The most you could say about him is he's lazy.
>>small team
>>so mentioning the graphics may not be a good idea
quantity != quality.
it's not the team size that would effect that, it's how much time and resources they pumped into the game.
for an example of this, check out Jetpack Squad.
that game is being made by two people.
>>317565372
>>317565362
just pointing out that mentioning just ONE userbase isn't enough argument to invalidate: >>317564839
>>317565327
Do you like hurting other people?
>>317564849
>Undertale has that though.
Yeah, a shallow version of it
>Undertale has all of that too.
Again, a shallow version of it.
You're just proving you don't actually play those genres if you honest to god believe Undertale offers the same depth jRPGs like SMT or shmups like R-Type offer. It doesn't keep anything fresh. Gimmicks aren't fresh, they are boring and shallow of fuck. You just have shit taste.
>>317565335
i know this is just a copy pasta but thats wrong you fag.the only well said argument in this whole thread has been
>>317553169
>>317565554
Alphys is called a woman pretty much every time she's mentioned
>>317565573
Alphys gets to be "the hero" who redeems herself.
And Sans is a bumbling idiot on the surface.
>>317565437
>alphys
>strong
>independent
wut
Also Toriel is just a stern mom, an archetype used to hell and back.
>all the males are dumb
At the end of the day Sans is anything BUT dumb.
>>317565604
>SMT
>R-Type
>depth
Come the fuck on. Those are some of the simplest games in the genre.
Its clear that YOU dont really play these games.
But its clear that you're in a shitposting loop shouting gimmicks and shallow, so I guess we're done.
>>317565437
>while all the males are dumb to some degree
Asgore was depicted as a strong warrior with the heart of a family man who thought he was doing the best for his kingdom.
Sans is depicted as a witty guy who both manages to put you through hell and kekolding Asgore
Papyrus is just a comic relief character, even though its said by Undyne his fucking tough but with a big heart
Compare that to the female characters now.
a mom
a fish with anger issues
and a weaboo
>>317565376
>ambiguous characters are now SJW
go to bed kid
