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> buy fallout 4
> talking robots
> invulnerable companions
> companions: a journalist and a detective?
> frontal headshots don't kill people
> realize everything about this game is fucking retarded

Immersion lost. Game fucking dropped.

How about a post-apocalyptic game with an actual post-apocalyptic setting instead of this shit?
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>>317493084
>> buy fallout 4
you did this, you are retarded.
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>>317493084
I don't care for it much, either. Will play to completion. Will play again in 6 months with mods. Will play again in 1 year with more mods .Etc. etc. etc..
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>>317494929
Nothing can fix the retarded setting. Diamond City? Lame as fuck Will Smith-robots as adversaries? Seriously, the game devs should kill themselves.
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>>317495859
I know. There will be good quest mods, though.
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>>317494762
Im going back to the store tomorrow to ask my fucking cash back. Fuck this Skyrim with guns-shit.
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>>317496254

I'm not paying $60 just so some neckbeard could fix it for free.

This is why I pirate most of my games.
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>>317496448
Pirating games is degenerate. Even when the game is a pile of steaming politically correct dog shit like this one
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Played for about twenty hours and found myself booting up Mad Max instead.
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>>317493084
>Look at this thread bethesbros, people who don't like Todd's masterpiece are just stoopid!
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>this piece of shit sold 2 million copies on PC alone
kill me f-a-m
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>>317496617

It's less degenerate than faggots buying a buggy ass game and claiming that it's GOTY in spite of it.

Either way, fuck you.
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>>317496617
Says who, you?
Jew.
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>>317493084
>> frontal headshots don't kill people
What? I shoot people's heads off all the time with my sniper character.
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>everyone hates the game
>i cant stop playing it
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>>317493084
>How about a post-apocalyptic game with an actual post-apocalyptic setting instead of this shit?

that would be fallout new vegas
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>>317496617
I'd rather be a degenerate and save money than spend it on vidya games.
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>>317493084

What exactly is the problem with talking robots?

Also, the detective is the best companion in the game (well, Hancock is pretty good) so fuck you.
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>>317496773
> 2 million copies
This makes me physically sick.
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>>317496973
Its not balanced properly and sometimes you hit a super mutant with a 10mm pistol and he instantly drops only to run into a buttnaked raider that takes 3 .50 cal to the head

Probably what he meant
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>>317496997
>tfw I just finished it after 60 hours and there's nothing left to do besides shitty building and repeatable quests
I spent more time in W3 for sure and I had way more fun
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Companion need to be invulnerable to compensate for the retard AI mang. Or else they will be blown to pieces within minutes
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>>317496617
How is it politcally correct? I haven't noticed anything that's reallly bugs me? However, I haven't played it that much.
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>>317497032
> New Vegas
> Post-apocalyptic setting

How about a setting in which people are actually struggling to survive like in FO 1 or the Fallout movie script?
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>>317497239

political correct is the new weeboo
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>>317497181

I'd say 60 hours isn't that bad but idk how many you put into the previous games
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>>317493084
>frontal headshots don't kill people

Thats every Fallout, including those overrated by hipsters like New Vegas
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>>317496617
the only people get mad is the people who pay for them. they are jealous so they claim some moral obligation to pay. if you have an in you're a fool not to take it
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>>317497203

I'd say "why not make them smarter" but then I remember the company behind it has the intelligence of a peanut.

It's not terribly hard to make competent A.I. but fuck, year 2015 and devs still haven't graduated from 1985 era A.I. stupidity.
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>>317497395
I know I spent a lot more in NV for sure, never finished 3 as it was 2boring4me
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>>317497401
They do in FO 1 and 2
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>>317497401
'hipster' and 'contrarian' need to be autoban
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>>317497181

I think the game has enough content to sustain two playthroughs, but only if you don't try and be too completionist the first time round. I went with the Brotherhood of Steel the first time round and now I'm going with the Railroad.

The game probably has about 70 hours of content (unless you spend hours tracking down every item or doing that shitty building sim stuff).
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>>317493084
>Skyrim
>join up with Lydia
>explore the province for weeks together
>enter cave and huge fight with spiders ensues
>kill the last one but where's Lydia?
>lift up the spider corpses and there she is on the ground, almost sleeping
>position her body correctly and place flowers around her body
>visit her grave multiple times after that
>never have a companion like Lydia again

This game me more feels than anything in Fallout 4 will ever HOPE to give me. Bethesda, let us make our OWN story through our OWN experiences, not some artificially "we gotta save my son/dad" contrived BS.
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>>317497508
>never finished 3 as it was 2boring4me

I managed to do the main quest and a bit of the BoS expansion but its nowhere near the time I spent on new vegas and fallout 4

3 had like, no redeemable features for me. NV had great quests/setting/writing and fo4 has good gunplay/power armor, 3 had nothing to keep me interested
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>>317497553

Honestly, I'd rather the anti-censorfags go first.

We had like three threads earlier on the same game with the same arguments yet having more than one thread on the same game is unacceptable and belongs in /vg/.
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>>317497473
> ripping stuff without paying for it
> not immoral

They will tear you a new one in prison, son.
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>>317496365

Thanks for the blog post.

>>317496617
>Pirating games is degenerate.

Devs/Pubs not proving playable demos is degenerate.
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>>317497617
Why not just do all railroad/bos quests the first time around and then side with whoever?

Makes no sense. I like the game but the casual RPG progression is only fun for one playthrough, FUCK starting a new character
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>>317497617
I personally think there are just not enough quests for that. It's a really low amount and after that you're left with repeatables that get boring after 2-3 times. Went with BoS too but goddamn it hits me that they don't let you do certain things differently in story, resorting mostly to just "go there kill shit" thing.
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>>317497660

I found Skyrim to be horribly shallow, character-wise. Lydia is literally the only fucking character I can remember the name of, and I spent 40 hours playing the game.
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>>317497751
i meant the words hipster and contrarian should be autoban
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>>317497239
USA is supposedly fascist
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is there any way to get resources back from unused armor/weapon mods? 1:1 would be nice
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>>317497874
>I found Skyrim to be horribly shallow, character-wise.

That's why you throw any attempt at Bethesda trying to write a story or character out the fucking window.
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>>317497860

One of the later BoS missions involved liquidating the Railroad so doing both sets of missions wasn't possible. I could have deliberately extended my first playthrough but I'd prefer two 35 hour playthroughs to one 70 hour playthrough in a game like FO4 (which isn't particularly deep, RPG wise).
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>>317497962

Throw in censorship and you've got a deal.

Maybe memes too?
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>>317498180
One or two quests are not worth the new playthrough in my opinion, and its exactly because its not very deep RPG wise that a longer playthrough makes sense since you just build a character that is good at everything
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>>317497874
Skyrim and Fallout 4's NPC's and story are so shallow and unrealistic it should be a criminal offense.
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>>317493084
>> frontal headshots don't kill people
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>>317498232
yes

Just cut off the leddit fags calling everybody contrarian if they don't get their way and everything else is on the house
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>>317498375
This.

Where the fuck did the skills go??????????????????????????????????

This jack of all trades shit is fucking retarded.
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>>317497760
lol fuck off moralfag. have you really never pirated anything? If you say yes you are a lying whore
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>>317498410
man that fucking outfit was so sick
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>>317493084
> 101 and tattoo text is backwards.
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>>317498915
traits in f4 are quite shit
and improving your SPECIAL is a retarded thing, too
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>everytime I send nick away he disappears and I have to teleport to find him

I SAID SANCTUARY HILLS NOT PIPERS OFFICE
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>>317498476

Maybe just make reddit and tumblr auto bans too?
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>>317498180
Why would anyone want to play this shit game again?
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>>317497509
No they dont you retard.
A 9mm pistol has 5-10 dam. many characters have 50+ health and armors. even crit headshot cant kill them right away.
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>>317493084
> frontal headshots don't kill people
this bothers me to no end. It makes all the weapons feel like nerf guns.
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>>317499374
> most chars have +50 hps in FO 1

No they don't faggot
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>>317499521
>many
>most
lel
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>>317496617
pirating shit games is a good fuck you to lazy devs
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>>317499478
>have a dank weapon that does almost 200dmg
>frontal headshots usually in fact kill most of the enemies
unless you have a gauss rifle, that one can one-shot almost anything
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>>317499478
maybe you can look at the name of the game before you play to have a vague understand of the mechanic first?
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>>317499478
>mfw upgraded combat rifle with highest marksman perk

Shit's great, the swan pond mutant didn't last more than 20 bullets

Unless you somehow play on survival in which case its your own damn fault
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>>317499478
Oh, I'm sorry that it isn't Call of Duty enough for you.
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>>317499771
>in a game that give me mines, frags, rockets, drugs, flamer and power armors for free. I will play on easy and shoot a boss to death with a pew pew gun
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>>317499712
okay.
Fallout is radioactive rain after a nuclesr power plant breaks or after a nuke.


this somehow turns a 10mm bullet into a bb.
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>>317499771
> survival mode
> don't have to eat
> don't have to sleep
> radiation is irrelevant
> post-apocalyptic setting

Fuck this gay earth.
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>>317497042
Not him but lets take a look at the facts.

Fact 1. There's fucking talking robots in all the games.
Fact 2. For some reason their sentience suddenly becomes "a problem" when they're shaped like humans.
Fact 3. Purge heresy and degeneracy at all costs.
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>>317499950
a game that claims to be immersive doesn't even make me fear fucking bullets.

great rpg you got there

make bullets scarce but deadly et voilà.
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>>317499578
This is off topic but how do I get into FO2? I have a mac and i dont have the mod to end the time limit on FO1 so I just went right to two.

The gameplay feels so confusing to me. Did anyone else feel like me? aha
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>>317496617
>he works for a living, pays his hard-earned wages for shitty games, and likes it
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>>317499771
I play on survival and it's no different than normal really. On normal, I was one-shotting people with chest shots, now I one-shot people with head shots and 3-5 for chest. This is using my tricked out .45 combat rifle. The difference is that you have to headshot people on survival to kill them with one bullet, instead of shooting off their finger tips with your 200 damage gun.
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>>317500101
>radiation that turn animals into giants
>virus that turn people into giants
>mechs lel
>floating house servant robot totally not a waste of energy at all
...
>somehow taking 2 bullet to the head is not immersive
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>>317500276

This shitty ass game is even more casual than CoD.

At least in CoD I can't cheese the system with some of the laziest stat/perk system since fucking skyrim.

They don't even feel like stats, just some shit that got tacked on so the hardcore FO fanboys wouldn't bitch out as much.
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>>317500476
>i dont have the mod to end the time limit on FO1 so I just went right to two.
neo-/v/
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>>317500551
It's called "suspension of disbelief", amateur
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>>317499972
>I'll deal with the clunky grenade mechanics and a shitty flamer because I'm too much of a SO FUN RANDUMB XDD retard that needs to have quirky weapunz to have fun

Ok
>>317500162
they were too lazy to mod it in because they know you would ;^)
>>317500485
Might swap out then too, raiders start to drop like flies and I'm only lvl 23
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>>317500201
Well, to be fair most of the upset about synths was related to the fact that the institute really was kidnapping people and replacing them with machines for an unknown purpose. Most people didn't seem to have a problem with the concept of synths, but rather with the concept of your best friend being replaced by a synth whose mind is controlled by a mysterious and seemingly nefarious organization.
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>>317500551
fags like you don't understand that a scifi or fantasy setting still follow an internal logic (if they're at least decent).

In FO NV a bullet to the head was supposed to kill you otherwise they wouldve used another method to execute the courier. so obviously bullets are meant to have real life properties and human biology is mostly the same.
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>>317500476
download the manual or watch a let's play/walkthrough.
the only confusing thing i find at the time is how to shoot, reload weapons (right click on the weapon icon at the bottom of the screen) and how much hidden shit there are. (They didnt do a really good job at hinting and explaining)
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>>317500939
The courier didn't die though, so it's consistent.
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>Headshots dont kill people

I'll never understand why this is a breaking point for so many people

>A bloo bloo bloo why doens't everything die in one bullet!Q?!/111
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>>317500551
>because something doesn't make sense, nothing ever has to make sense again
Never write fiction
Hell, don't even write non-fiction
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>>317500660
I decided to play FO2 first. i heard its more accessible.
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>>317498410
>on the receiving end of the very first headshot in the game
>it doesn't kill you
Dropped as fuck to be desu
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>>317500829
>grenade mechanics
>clunky
find the pleb. i havent played cod or halo or any grenade-button games for 3 years and i can throw grenades instead of melee whenever i want.
flamer is just an example. They are terrible.
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>>317501029
no it's not. that was pure luck and the doc comments on it. he also needed to be patched up and fell unconscious at least.

a raider with a 5.56 to the neck somehow keeps fighting.

als
>if the enemy doesnt see me, my bullet somehow does more damage although it didn't change caliber
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>>317500939
he didnt die. if only benny had shot twice.
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>>317501185
It's not. It's way harder than 1. The only thing they give you in the beginning is a spear.
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>>317501198
>people in real life never survive headshots
>people in real life never get extremely lucky and survive without permanent brain damage
baka desu
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>>317501218
i have no trouble either but it still doesn't change the fact that sniping people from 100 meters away is still easier and better ;^)
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>>317501340
> FO 2 is hard

Stay pleb.
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Is this set before all the other fallouts or after? this definitely doesn't feel post-apocalyptic like the others
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>>317501340
I tried playing one I had no idea where I was going or what was going on. i was just wasting days walking around the map trying to figure out whats going on.

Should I just try Fallout one again with like a walkthrough?
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>>317501147
man you're gay.


People want bullets to mean something. that means that players would die with one shotto the head, too.
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>>317501336
I think the explanation for sneak attacks is that if you're undetected you have time to aim at their vitals more accurately.
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>>317501472
Who the FUCK are you quoting?
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I actually cannot tell if dis nigga srs
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>>317501561
Its set 200 years after armageddon. Thats why its shit. We need a Fallout in 2087.
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>>317501616
ok that's a point

makes sense for melee obviously
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>>317501152
How does "not verybody in this fantasy setting take just 1 bullet to the head to die" not make sense? If they had high end and good armor, they wont die easy period. The danger of the wasteland still stand: hunger, thirst, giant creatures that shrug off bullets, radiation, toxic, bad people...
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>>317501573
Try Fallout 3, there you have a quest compass you can follow so that you don't get lost
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>>317501613
>I hate challenging games

Thats cool man
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>>317497181
When's the first DLC launching?
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>>317496617
why would you pay $60 for a game THAT ISNT EVEN FINISHED?

>>317496884
kill yourself
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>>317501738
hahahah gr8 meme bro.
I rather play New Vegas.
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>>317501734
yea but a buttnaked raider survives a shot into the face...
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>>317501636
Fallout 2 -> go to Den -> turn slaver -> unlimited caps -> easy mode on
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>>317501768
read again
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>>317501573
you should talk to people alot and remember what they say.
explore a town throughoughly first before heading out to the wilderness.
or follow a guide for the first part of the game so you have some "practice" that's what i did
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>>317493084
A game with super mutants isn't realistic? You don't fucking say
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The ai is so utterly useless, if the companions could die you wouldn't have any of them. They'd all be dead within 5/10 mins of meeting them tops or you'd be reloading saves every 10 seconds in combat.
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>>317501865
he has high end and toughness lvl4.
and all of them has an int of 1. use that to your advantage.
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wait theres sex in this game?
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>>317501972
>A bloo bloo bloo why should I actually have to try when I could kill everyone in one hit!?

Seems to be your point
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>>317493084
>immersion lost
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>>317502080
Fuck off. Super mutants per se don't have to be unrealistic. Random super mutants everywhere is some dumbed up retarded fuckshit.
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>>317493084
>an actual post-apocalyptic setting
What does the post-apocalypse ACTUALLY look like, OP?
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>>317501029
you fucking retard. People can survive headshots in the real world however it's rare. But if you go outside and start headshotting people, most of them will die, and all of them would not be capable of keeping fighting.
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>>317502032
Nah its part of the experience. Fallout 1 is awesome.
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Dwarf Fortress handles realism in fantasy/ scifi (fantasy where magic = scienc) best.


there are dragons and magic and elves and ogres but an arrow to the head still one shots you, no matter how many fogotten beasts you've slain.


you can cut enemy tendons and make them fall, puncture their lungs until they suffocate or just strangle them to death.


I'm waiting for technology to achive such depth with modern graphics
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>>317502327
Hey now, green ogres with guns are the staple of Fallout franchise.
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>>317502327
>BIO ENGINEERED SUPERMUTANTS
>giant moving targets that cant survive one puny 10mm to the face
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>>317502415
> edgy faggot
How about radiated, and people fighting for survival, struggling as fuck?
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>>317502280
sorry, you have no reading comprehension and on top of that no talent for interpretation
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>>317500476
don't go into f2. The beginning phase is way more atrocious and longer than f1.

In f1 you mostly have to endure the few rats at the beginning then the game starts to make sense and be fun, if you get used to the idea that you have multiple ways of sovling thing and they are not always obvious.

if you want to play f1 right, don't be afraid to start multiple times until you figure out how to make a playable character that can survive the earlier phases
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>>317502459
I wish I was autismal enough to actually get into DF
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>>317502459
in dorf fort you dont control a single character.
inb4 adventure mode. reloading/restarting a millions time aint fun for most people.
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>>317502415
mad max did it better
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>>317502563
Nice try faggot. Not killing a super mutant with a 10 mm headshot isn't the same as not killing a raider with a 10 mm headshot. Go assfuck yourself with a Bethesda sponsored dildo
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>>317502843
i should have obsidian and black isle dildos up my ass as well :^)
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>>317501734
It's just where game mechanics and story diverge, like not using a phoenix down on Aeris. People die from one shot in cutscenes but not in gameplay, and have been seen to otherwise exhibit every normal human trait, need, and vulnerability that they do in real life. From a storytelling perspective this is fucking retarded, but it's a video game.
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>>317502743
>save scumming
haha

and in fort mode the same rules still apply

your legendary axedwaef in steel armor csn still slip and hit his head and die.

swapping lead in Fallout just looks ridiculous in comparison
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How do I use melee without power armor and spamming stimpak?
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>>317502247
Wouldn't surprise me if you can have transgender sex in this politically correct piece of shit.
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>>317501707
Might be neat, but weren't the only survivors the people in vaults and a select few other shelters? The wasteland was 100% uninhabitable for quite a few decades, being on the surface would kill you in just a few days in most places, a few weeks in others.
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>>317501573
follow the instructions at the beginning. Get used to the idea that the game makes more sense than f3, so what npcs say often has a logical meaning. It also help to flesh out the world, the relations between the settlement, etc.

keep in mind that this is a game where you can simply seal up a cave full of monsters by blowing up the entrance instead of going inside and killing all of them individually. It's a game were you can disguise yourself as the enemy and interact pacifically in the end dungeon. It's a game where often there are multiple ways to solve thing and it's not just by selecting an bovious dialogue option.
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>>317503156
I'd actually play a fallout like that. It should be based purely on survival instead of just shooting millions of raiders and supermuties.

Actually scavenging for food, trying to grow your own shit etc, basically settlement building but with no real enemy
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>>317503156
Thats why its awesome. Only rural country hicks would survive and they would face ghouls and total desintegration of government.
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>>317502280
you are a fucking retard if you believe the only way of making a game a challenge is by making unarmored standard human bullet sponges immune even to headshots.

not everything has to die in one hit for headshots with standard weapons- power armor users, robots, supermutants- but there is no excuse for shooting an unhelmeted human multiple times in the head before defeating them
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>>317496879
A game despite its bugs and upsets is beating your game, I would be upset too.
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>>317503228
Fallout 1 is basically an adventure with a shitty combat mechanic.
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>>317493084
>> frontal headshots don't kill people

FO3 also did this, but I later found out it was because of their "muh RPG" RNG system. Fucking retarded and franchise dropped, but I guess some faggots like that shit
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>>317503156
The first few decades of post-war in Fallout is kind of iffy. It's portrayed as a totally inhospitable shithole but apparently there are, or were, plenty of ghouls still alive who were around for when the bombs hit, so at least there's that.
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>>317502843
the other guy is a fucking retard, a pure piece of shit. HURR THERE ARE ROBOTS AND SUPERMUTANT SO IT'S NO BIG DEAL IF YOU CAN EMPTY A WHOLE CLIP IN A NORMAL HUMAN AND HE DOESN'T DIE, IT'S JUST A GOOD FUN MECHANIC
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>>317503292
>>317503352
I mean I agree that it'd be cool, but I don't think it would be a fallout game. It'd be perfect material for some other developer to jump on though.

Fallout means you've gotta live in a world where the danger comes from other people more than radiation, and there's jimmied-together old-world tech being used. That's something they nailed with the Brotherhood airship, it's a mish-mash of old shit even they only half understand but managed to cobble together anyway. That sort of stuff wouldn't be possible in a game set 10 years after the war. Such a game would just be about moving from bomb shelter to bomb shelter interacting with and potentially raiding the inhabitants, which is cool but isn't fallout.
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>>317503518
This. Never understood why people glorify this piece of shit game. Fallout 1 can be won without firing one shot, Fallout 2 dito. The first two games are faggot central.
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>>317503518
they are better than f3 at least (I didn't play f4 yet). It doesn't say much, I know. Also the violence effects were more satisfying and creative in f1 than in 3. Certain weapons were way more powerful also, it makes no sense how underpowered they are in the new games (like the gattling, the laser guns, the plasma gun)
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The game makes no sense besides being buggy and extremely annoying at times. 6/10
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Fallout: What Four?
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>>317503760
an early, pre-bomb apocalypse game would be cool.

basically some state were the water and gas shortage meant the collapse of society. ANd you have to reach the nearest vault while facing panicking starving people, military raiders in power armor, religious fanatics, raiders (obviously), hijacked robots, military invaders, psychotic people. Would be even more bleak than the standard fallout because you can't cooperate with anyone (because the goal vault has only room for a few people more) and you know it's going to end in nuclear apocalypse. It would have to feature vehicles and vehicular combat, with gas being very hard to come by, but essential.

People looting and pillaging everywhere, people raping and you can save the would be victims knowing you can do nothing to save them from the nuclear apocalypse anyway. Just send them on their way hoping they will survive. I mean it should have plenty of dialogues and temporary alliances with faction but with the knowledge from the start that the nearest vault has room for you and only a handful of other people at best so you have to persuade people to help you even knowing they will not be able to join you in safety.
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>>317503857
> Violence effects were better in FO 1 than in FO 3

Are you fucking retarded? FO 1 is a pixelfest.
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I fucking hate how mods work sometimes. How the fuck do i know whether a "marksman's stock" or a "Recoil Compensating Stock" is better?
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>>317504613
the deaths, then, the violence was cooler and more creative than the generic gibfest of f3.
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>>317503760
>stalker n metro last light
>muh you and npcs die in one hit

>just play peekaboo and reload the entire game
>level design so linear (metro) and shit (stalker) that npcs tactics exist for nothing
>autistic gun stats, animations and details are for nothing because everything die of every guns
literally cod singleplayer autism version.
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this is an original thread
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>>317504181
what the fuck does your furry tumblr meme game have to do with this you goober
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>>317502604
Sounds like Fallout to me
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>>317493084
You might like Wasteland 2?
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>>317504835
Anon I don't think you know who you're replying to.
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>>317504610
I like that idea
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>>317496365
>it's Oblivion with guns!
>it's fallout 3 with the Old West!
>it's Fallout 3 with magic!
>it's Skyrim with guns!

Every time.
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>>317504847
Shut the fuck up nigger
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>>317504835
Next time try to type something that isn't riddled with epin buzzwords and utter bullshit, you mong.

> and shit (stalker) that npcs tactics exist for nothing
This is completely false btw, human enemies in Stalker try to flank you at any given possibility and they try to stay behind cover most of the time. You would know that if you actually played the game you're shitposting about.
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>>317504786
> Fallout 3
> generic
This meme again.
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Did Bethesda announce a patch yet?

Seems like all or most of the crash areas are concentrated in the Cambridge area.Pretty annoying since I have a few quests around there (Silver Shroud, Boston Dark) that I can't do.

Yeah, there's console commands to work around it all, but I don't like missing parts of quest with potential dialogue or items.
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>>317505523
there's literally nothing interesting about the world in F3
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>>317505407
/v/ and /b/ have truly become one
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>>317505616
Go back to call of duty then. Not everything has to be thrown in your face.
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>>317505742
What's so interesting about it then, other than it makes no fucking sense whatsoever?
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>>317497868

>80 hours in
>finish storyline
>wrapping up the occasional quest here and there, finding one every now and then
>endless KIDNAPPING / GHOUL PROBLEM / RAIDER PROBLEM quests
>always in the same areas over and over
>can't talk to Harvey without having 2 fucking quests laid onto you

It's pretty annoying, honestly. Not as annoying as these random crashes though. Every time I go near CIT crater now my game takes a shit.
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>>317505616
There is literally nothing intelligent about your opinion.
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>>317505825
I had only one crash in my 60+h playthrough but some places in boston are literally a slideshow for me. That, and some artifacts that happen to appear once in a while.
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>>317505424
they do senpai
but they alway have a heat up period when they dont shoot at you. a person with any shooter experience can dispatch them with ease in that period. And the level design is so poor you can alway rush to a defendable position before bullets start flying.
>fo nv actually make half condition guns weaker and shittier to use
>gun at half condition in stalker is the same deal as at full condition, jamming is for shit as npcs easily get staggered by one shot from your starting guns.
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>>317505610

I had this start happening on my 2nd play through. Didn't happen on my first, and I very vividly recall exploring all of Cambridge with no problem. In fact, my entire first play through, I didn't have any area crashes.

My 2nd playthrough, I crash in the same areas you seem to be crashing in. This time around though, I spent a lot more time exploring and doing misc quests before doing the actual story line. This leads me to believe that the crash instances are triggered by something - maybe a quest or world trigger or something from another quest.

Really fucking annoying though. 2 weeks, they could at least issue a fix for the crashes AT LEAST.
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This game is too hard. I don't think companions should even take damage and I don't like how many dialogue options there are and I want a sell button on my inventory from wherever I am. And there is nothing telling me which perk is the best one to take, it's annoying.
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>>317505610
I can't play this overpriced piece of crap without stuttering, sound going weird and constant clipping issues. I have seen flying super mutants and ghouls that die mid air. Why didn't they fix the fucking ragdoll physics?

I sincerely hope the Bethesda game devs die horribly of aidscancer.
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>>317506586

Give your companions armor, and an upgraded version of their gun, and they won't die so easy.

Dog armor drops off raider mutts.
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FO4 is a pretty good FPS
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i just want to fuck piper's little sister
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>>317506586
just lower the difficulty, Finishing bethesda game isnt the goal of any consumer who buy bethesda games.
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>using guns
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>>317506835
I have it on lowest and I keep dying it's not fair
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>>317506586
best one so far tbpdwymgh(to be perfectly desu with you my good homie)
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>>317506706
> Fallout is a FPS
And a pretty bad one at that. Why didn't they invest those millions in the gameplay instead of edgy commercials?
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>>317507103
What really bothers me is the skill system. The skill system is too hard. Pls make the game more casual Bethesda.
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>>317506615
>this is now the average /v/ poster
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>>317505523
I was talking specifically about the violence effects in my post. Idiot.
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>>317505385
While Skyrim was different enough from 3 and FO4 feels and plays differently enough from Skyrim, Fallout 3 was pretty much just Oblivion modified to be Fallout 3, except instead of level scaling you had the equally shitty encounter zones and instead of enemies respawning where they originally spawned at, you had enemies spawning on top of their corpse creating its own set of problems.
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>>317497181
That says a lot, since I'm getting bored of MGSV after 100 hours of fun.
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>>317506428
> Bethesda
> actually fixing gamers issues

Uh yeah, I have bad news for you fella...
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So I've been playing this for about 15 hours now on very hard difficulty.

So far I've been creeping outward from sanctuary, clearing the next-closest POI and putting all of my points into utility perks.

And holy shit am I starved for caps/ammo/resources.
Would dropping the difficulty for a while help with that? These legendary drops have been kinda shit.
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>>317506615
>100 hours played
>only trouble i had was bad framerate in some areas
>none of the people i talked to had any real problems
>this guy complains about everything
i dont get it
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>>317493084
idk
>pirated
>dropped after getting immortal retarded dog-god
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>>317506009
Wow, I hoped you enjoy your 60 hours of eating shit without interruption.
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>>317507964
I'm not saying the game isn't shit though. I just wanted to finish it fully before I have an opinion on it, instead of just getting out of the vault and complaining about every single thing you see.
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>>317493084

I love T & A as much as the next Herero virgin but God damn I've always hated this image...
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>>317507914
/v/ really wants a new bioware fiasco
they're willing to go through any amount of shitposting to get it
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>>317507883
get 3 guns with different ammo types and switch when you start to run out of one kind of ammo.
lowering difficulty is fine in the first levels until you get good weapons and start drowning in stimpaks and ammo.
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>>317493084
> start fallout 4
> meet dog
> headshot dog
> dog is still alive
> game dropped
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>>317508060
>instead of just getting out of the vault and complaining about every single thing you see.

it was the same thing when fallout 3 got shit on. most people didn't make it past megaton
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>>317508259
I forgot about Megaton. Jesus christ Fallout 3 was a piece of shit.
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>>317508198
Heh, that's what I've been doing. Tricked-out 10mm, .45 CR, laser pistol.
I'm at the point where the ammo stocks aren't quite replenishing themselves, so I'm switching sooner & sooner.
I've got ~1300 .38 ammo, does that ever become useful or is it vendor trash? (for all of 1 cap each)

Already drowning in stimpacks, been eating the local wildlife instead.
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>tfw bethesda faggots developed it lazily and didnt give fucks about trying to make something good because they know that whatever shit they release, it'll sell millions
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>>317508060
this desu. i dont understand people that play 4 hours and uninstall and come here to complain about shit that they havent even seen yet.

>buy book
>"read" obligatory first blank page
>read dedication
>read book title page
>close book, burn book, yell at people that read book
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>>317508408
I think you missed the point of that post completly
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>>317493084
>How about a post-apocalyptic game with an actual post-apocalyptic setting instead of this shit?

Give me the money and i'll make it for you anon.
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>tfw actually reall enjoyed the game, thought the graphics were actually good for once in a Bethesda game, and thought the writing was leagues better than 3 and even Skyrim for a change minus some spotty dialogue work (when Valentine pretends to be Kellog, and his sarcastic option is you not being sarcastic, but straight up screaming at him for a rematch).

Fuck /v/. Game is good. Crashes are fucking annoying, and the bugs are inexcusable, but to say it's a bad game / worse than 3 or NV is pretty ignorant.
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>>317508472
>>317508198
> Fallout 4 is too hard guys
Please please please please kill yourself. Tb.h. you faggots are the reason why games are so cůcked nowadays
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FO4 would be a cool RPG, I wonder if anyone will make an overhaul mod for it
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>>317508214
Underrated
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>>317508656
Only things that pissed me off were the predetermined background and thus lack of roleplay(although rumor is there's going to be a character switch DLC) and the dialog system. Everything else was a massive step up; especially the difficulty. It's nice that VATS is based on percentage again instead of "go into VATS, click the head a bunch of times and win".
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Cambridge becomes a nasty crash zone after you save Valentine. If you wanna explore the game and not deal with any crashes, don't save Valentine until after you feel like you're done with exploring and want to finally progress the core story line.

It's also a chance thing. It might or might not happen. For me, 2 plays it hasn't happened. It's happened for my friend though in all 4 of his play through attempts. Idiot keeps making a new game whenever he starts crashing everywhere.
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>>317508472
.38 is the ammo for pipe guns, its weak but its fucking everywhere
theres a perk that lets you scavenge more ammo, maybe put a level in that if youre really having trouble.
raid all buildings you see tho, they usually have enough ammo to keep you going.
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>>317508953

Survival difficulty was nice. For once, it was difficult, but not "BULLET SPONGE ENEMY THAT ABSORBS 100000 BULLETS AND STOMPS THE ENTIRE MAP" difficult like 3 and NV. They seemed to have carried over the static level scale from NV and Skyrim and tuned it further.

Still needs work though. The only real proper way to do this is how STALKER does it - enemies deal more damage to you, but you deal more damage to them in return, with beasts typically being a bit spongy.
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I play on easy and honestly it bothers me that the game has difficulty settings.
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>>317509210

I keep a .38 pipe rifle for ghouls and raiders.
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>>317509212
Eh, wasn't that much of an issue for me, since crippling actually means something now.
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>>317501865
But people complain about bandits in glass srmor
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>>317508656
> Yes
> No
> What game?
>> Sarcastic
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>>317509363
> Crippling means something now
> Using a stimpack to fix broken limbs
> Somehow this is not retarded
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>>317509365
I'm going to do my second playthrough as a Sarcastic Person. I can't wait to see the effect my choices have on the world.
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>>317509364
I never got why
>High level bandits
>high level would imply they're good at their job and have been around for awhile getting the best bandit loot
>which would include good armor and weapons
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>>317509613
Stimpack doesn't fully restore your limbs, son. Just enough so you're combat-effective again
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>>317509803
Don't get me started on prewar food and nuka cola giving hps. Might as well be playing Mario Bros.
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>>317509212

>turn on Hardcore on NV
>even on Normal HC, anything with a helmet absorbs endless counts of ammo, and deals 3-shot-tier damage

Also, why the fuck did they make it impossible to shoot enemy weapons from their hands in 4? The Agility clip when you launch the game shows pipboy shooting enemy weapon from their hands, but you can't do it in game. Not actively at least. There's a perk that does it by chance with pistols, but that's horse shit.
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>>317509963
I don't know who's trolling who anymore
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>>317509850
Writing of the year.
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>>317508629
>actual, realistic post-apocalyptic setting
>post nuclear wasteland with a neverending nuclear winter
>people dying because you cant grow crops
>people dying because they cant purify water
>basic resources are too far away from eachother to establish any sort of functioning society
>people dying anyways because of radiation

it would be snow staring simulator 2016, but go for it mate.
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>>317509613

Limbs restore over time. Stimpacks only heal them slightly so you're not blind or limping. Not sure if you noticed.
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>>317509957
>>317509850
>>317510084
Why do you hate choices? Maybe FO4 is not the immersive RPG for you
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>>317509850
In FO1 and FO2 fucking up in conversation meant an entire town would draw their gun and kill you. Since FO3 all NPC's got c.ucked.
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>>317509668

Because that worked so damn well in Oblivion, right?

That system is in place. If you pay attention, tougher raiders have more armor on their gear, and have better weapons. I've killed raiders in upgraded heavy cage armor with sturdy pieces and NVG pipe rifles.
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>>317508720
Nigger just the other day I was east of flight 1981 and ran into a trio of mirelurks. The legendary razorclaw was fast & delivered OHKs, & ALL mirelurks laugh at ballistic & laser damage. Only beat them by sending the invulnerable dog-god in as a distraction, dropping both my crits on the legendary & dumping the 3 mines I carry in 2 nodes before retreating.
The mines killed one lurk, wounded the legendary enough to finish it, and crippled the last.
Shit was cash & challenging, forget the difference between being starved for supplies & genuine difficulty.

>>317509210
>>317509341
.38 is sketchy even for ghouls & raiders.
Guess it's vendor trash then. 5+-to-1 conversion is garbage though. Ammo fabrication fucking when?
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>>317493084
Have you played new vegas?
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>>317509850
>>317509957
>>317510084
>suchchoices.jpg
>wowverychoices.jpg
>muchchoices.jpg

/v/ is dead
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>>317510265

I just collect pipe guns for the scrap. At level 3 scrapper you get loads of scrap from them. Especially higher upgraded pipe shit with NVG and tech scopes.
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>>317510418
Adhesive is the choke point. Trying to build up a farm for vegetable starch, but it's slow-going.
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>>317510026

Because in 3 and NV, when you shot a gun, you shot it to damage it's durability until it broke. In 4, there is no durability, hence no reason to hit weapons.

Though I will say, you still should have been given the option to at least target it to knock it from their hands, instead of it being a by-chance perk addition. It's not like they're permanently unarmed when they drop them. They just pick it back up and keep going.
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>>317506586
>And there is nothing telling me which perk is the best one to take, it's annoying.

I had this problem in my first playthrough. None of the perks actually helped my playstyle, so I either raised my SPECIAL, or took the lifegiver/Damage threshold perks when they were available.

Severely gimped myself to the point I couldn't fight anything. I wish they made the perk system more interesting, so I would actually care which ones I took.
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>>317510265
Have you been to Salem yet? It's mirelurk spring break. You have to run around turning on turrets to end the quest, but if you don't and just stay in a house shooting the fuckers they spawn infinitely and slowly get tougher

I got a fucking mirelurk king at level 15. That shit was tense.
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>>317510567

I rarely have trouble with adhesive. I pick up so much duct tape and glue it's insane. I always have around 20k caps too, so if I have to, buying a shipment for a few grand doesn't hurt me that much.
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>>317510186
are you retarded, there are no choices, all options lead to the same end
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>>317510727
please stay at gamefaqs
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>most of the time my game loads in a minute tops
>sometimes it can take 10 fucking minutes or more

Makes no fucking sense.
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>>317510291
Yes. Its hanky tanky edgy gangsters back to the future trash. Disney shit. I want Mad Max/FO 1 setting
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>>317497868
Wait, they actualy used Liberty Prime again. I thought you guys were joking
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