>Fallout 4 looks like Fallout 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2HH0Uf29E
Cool meme OP
>>317411849
Armors, weapons and monsters certainly look better, but some of the environments are Fallout 3 as fuck
>>317411849
Damn, it really does.
The T51(?) is much better in FO4 but other designs are IMO all-around better in FO3.
>>317411849
>character models and lighting updated
>gunplay is now "average" from "horrible"
>melee is still bad and unfun
>voiced dialogue at expense of choice / rpg elements / factions
>everything else remains same or regressed
the enclave power armor from fallout 3, was it just erased from the lore
>FO4
>sky is blue during the day
>FO3
>sky is always the same pasty tinge of yellow
I'd forgotten how shit FO3 looks.
>>317411849
the design aesthetic changed and theres still a fuck load of blur as well as muddy textures, having the side by side comparison really shows how shit of a job they did on proportions in 3.
the skybox is substantially better and the DoF is more realistic and less headache inducing, the guns look shitty still, and from what ive heard the dialogue options are dogshit
>>317412473
you can tell they spent a shit ton on modeling I mean these are hands down the best models in any game so far.
>Laser gun has recoil
>>317412805
Have you ever been accused of being full of shit before?
>>317411849
I'm glad the design overall is much better in FO4 than in 3. Only ones better in 3 are scorpions and railroad rifle.
The differences between ghouls, supermutants, behemot and yao guai in the games tells you that the commonwealth isn't as fucked up as the capital wasteland.
>>317413293
Not that guy but what do you mean? FO4 designs are on some part worse and the graphics still look bad in general.
Also I liked the worn-down textures and styles in FO3 more. In FO4 everything looks so clean and shiny.
>>317413424
Whats good is they've gone back to the designs of FO1/FO2.
>>317411849
Honestly Ghouls and Supermutants looks a hell of a lot more menacing in Fallout 3.
>>317413610
How so? Deathclaw for instance looks pretty faithful to FO1/2 in FO3.
>>317413646
Ghouls are creepy as fuck running up to you in F4.
>>317413293
plenty of times, if you refute my points i'll concede.
>>317413519
everything does look cleaner, that is weird since its supposed to be post apocalyptic and everything would be covered in filth.
There's something really off about the proportions in Fallout 4
>>317413814
> everything would be covered in filth.
Why?
Rain still exists bruh
>>317411849
Why does everything look like it's made of plastic or wax in Shitout 4?
>>317413910
Consoles. Its tech trickery to make things look higher definition with weaker hardware.
>>317413519
I think you might be retarded. people complained out thier ass about the color pallet. They did a great job at adjusting to feedback if you ask me. FO3's modeling doesnt even hold a candle to fo4. are you stupid or just contrarian. You do know some games actually will be good right? you get about 3-5 a year. Dont squander them thinking it will be another tortanic. Even though if it was you wouldnt even be satisfied. There will never be another tortanic you will never be part of something like that its long gone.
>>317414014
>todd.jpg
It took bethesda seven years to implement SSAO for the first time in their games.
They did a worse job than Crysis 1 did, the game that introduced SSAO for the first time.
Everything about Fallout 4 is a big fucking disaster. Shit game, awful quests, the gameplay is marginally better than Fallout 3 but holy shit it was impossible to make it worse than that.
>200 years after the bombs fell
>find a bar in Diamond City run by two russians
>thickest russian accent ever like they just arrived from Mother Russia
?????
>Find Maritime Conservation Institute
>200 years after the bombs fell
>there's still fish freshly rotten on the expositors
?????
>>317413646
nope
>>317413907
everything indoors, and if it was outside it would be rusted or water damaged.
>>317412770
>nuclear apocalypse
>expects sunny blue sky
>>317413910
Art style choice, mostly. Everything has that '50s magazine illustration look to it. I dig it.
>>317414112
you are talking shit about the colors. Anyone who's played the game thinks its fine. So whats the real problem here? do you not have the 45 bucks to buy it or not?
>>317414337
200 years
>>317411849
>F3 has actually more details
>F4 is shinier
>>317414125
Sorry you're not able to find any enjoyment in the game like millions of others have. Your loss
>>317414125
>Everything about Fallout 4 is a big fucking disaster. Shit game, awful quests, the gameplay is marginally better than Fallout 3 but holy shit it was impossible to make it worse than that.
Are you this over dramatic about everything in your life? The game is fine, it's still a fun game to play. So what if it doesn't look like modded Crysis? Why would you expect that from Bethesda in the first place? Every developer has their own aesthetic, I don't know why people are so shocked that Fallout 4 looks like a Bethesda game.
>>317414337
>nuclear apocalypse
>>200<< years ago
>>317414345
I still haven't used something other than the vault suit for that reason.
I like some of the enemy behaviours they introduced.
It's nothing crazy, but seeing Deathclaws zig zag to avoid fire as they get close is neat.
Assaultrons do something similar too.
>>317411849
I'm surprised they didn't try to push the retarded Enclave power armor from FO3 like they did with T-45
only idiots say this
>>317414370
Just look at the fucking OP picture. The one on the right unrealistic as fuck, like some plastic or something. FO3 textures at least are fitting. And the graphics difference is, in general, pretty minimal.
>JUST BUY IT
Fuck off. I pirated and uninstalled it already.
>>317414125
>>thickest russian accent ever like they just arrived from Mother Russia
This may shock you, but when people from one country move to another and then stay relatively segregated within a community of other people from that country, they tend to retain their accents. If you ever left your house you'd realize that. I live outside of Boston, and if you take a trip to Southie you'll hear 5th generation Irish Americans who sound like they just stepped off the boat.
>>317413610
Not on everything. While Power Armour looks a lot more like in FO1/2, the Deathclaw looks way better than in any of the previous games. I mean look at this retarded shit.
>>317414590
All that looks like shit dog
>>317411849
>Minigun barrels overheat in under a second
Ayy lmao
>>317414530
>modded Crysis
Can't you read? The SSAO in Fallout 4 is worse than the SSAO in Crysis 1. Vanilla.
And sorry for being critic of the games I play, I guess you can't expect anyone to ever care about the quality of the shit they play.
>>317414489
Who said that? The game isn't unplayable, but it could be so much better. Which is what pisses me off, I see lots of things that could have very easily been improved, but weren't.
Again, sorry for being critic of the shit I play.
>>317411849
Looks worse, lad.
>>317414489
Sorry you and millions of others don't have standards.
>>317414590
stylisticly it looks good but its still blurry and the textures are muddy. also those trees look like complete shit
>>317414590
It looks like HL2 except it runs worse.
>>317414345
art deco is the phrase you are looking for.
>>317411849
So did they explain why the FO3 Enclave armor looks nothing like the Enclave armor in any of the other games?
>>317414554
Same here. There's something appealing about a the pastel blue and yellow suit contrasting with a bunch of rusty metal armor.
>>317414892
It actually does look like a combination of HL2 and Bioshock. And it runs worse than both at the same time.
>>317414694
I don't live in America, so I can't comment on that. But here where I live the people who are 2nd generation already speak fluent and non-accented.
If there is no fucking backstory on those guys, I'll assume they're from around, just like the few chinese guys that also have a strong chinese accent.
If these "communities" exist, made of chinese/russian people where the accent is maintained, why do I never see them? Sorry, but your poor excuses aren't gonna work.
>>317414881
you need a better monitor anon.
>>317414783
It boils down to
>consoles
Tripple A hasn't exactly been pushing the bar for graphics since Crysis 1.
I just built this house in sanctuary! Trader, medic and a bar! Is it nice?
>Fallout 3 power armor has more detailed texture in its left breast than the entire Fallout 4 armor
How the fuck did they manage to do this?
>>317415108
laziness
>>317415108
how the fuck did you come to this conclusion?
>>317411849
Can i just state how fucking happy i am that they didn't bring back the fallout 3 enclave power armor.
It's one of the few things Bethesda did right.
>>317415217
Oh, you can't call them lazy anon, they spent a lot of time, effort and money into this dogshit.
So this dogshit is actually good!
>>317412515
>melee is bad and unfun
You are trolling it's still the most broken play style on every difficulty
>>317415217
>>317414928
Art deco is what Bioshock went for. Fallout 4 is not art deco, aside from a few exceptions.
Everyone saying fallout 4 looks bad have to be joking. The game is incredibly good looking, and the environments are incredibly detailed.
>>317411849
look at these disgusting comments
>>317415029
its a subtle blur, the ground textures in most of those pictures aren't very good, also did bethesda not even look at what trees look like?
>>317415306
you are an idiot.
>>317414992
corridor fpses will always look better than an open world rpg
fact is for an open world RPG, fallout 4 is one of the best looking in a while since Witcher 3 at least
even witcher 3 wasn't devoid of shit textures
unfortunately if you have to load up a small area you can fit in a lot more detail
see how good battlefront looks versus metal gear v
4 isn't bad but the fact that people say it looks like half life 2 just makes me think they don't remember how half life 2 actually looks like
>>317415029
>>317414928
>art deco
Fallout 4 has the colors and shading of a Norman Rockwell painting. That is absolutely not art deco.
>>317415331
Remember when you people insisted that Skyrim's graphics were actually good too?
>>317414934
>So did they explain why the FO3 Enclave armor looks nothing like the Enclave armor in any of the other games?
You're speaking as if the Enclave existed in several games before Fallout 3.
>>317415236
By having good eyes
>>317415349
its also a screenshot on very low resolution compared to the one on the left. dont fall for bait anon.
Is Fallout 4 supposed to look cartoony?
>>317415439
everything looks plastic... thats art deco. The color pallet is something else.
>>317414928
>>317414345
>fallout 4
>art deco
Ayy. Fallout 4's art style is just like the Jetsons: Cartoony Googie.
>>317414928
I was going to disagree with you since art deco typically refers to a more Bioshock-style of design, but after googling 1950's art deco it seems you're right. I didn't realize there were phases of art deco. Neat.
>>317414345
you're deluded
>>317414125
>SSAO
You act like we're supposed to know what that is. Spell it out, you fucking nerd.
>>317415408
It's not only the graphics, it's the combination of less than impressive upgrade from FO3 and the abysmal animations and bad artstyle related to the plastic textures
>>317415331
Yeah , those trees and that grass sure don't look like shit
Not to mention that bridge that's clipping through itself
>>317411849
A 7 years old game looks worse, who would'be thought!
Fallout 4 still looks pretty fucking dated,
>>317415720
it doesnt though the complexity of the models is real.
>>317412501
You have unequivocal shit tastes my friend. Either that or you are just trolling. Every set of PA in 3 and NV was dogshit. Didnt even look like PA.
>>317415718
>trees and grass look bad
The place is radiated. it's going to look different. Next you'll tell me you don't like Little Lamplight because "fictional universes shouldn't have fantasy elements"
>>317412770
>>317414409
>>317414552
It's an artistic choice, may not be one you agree with but I kind of liked it. It gave the impression of a ruined world, where everything's pretty much shit and going to be shit forever and there's nothing you can do about it. Hell, the atmosphere's one of the only things I can praise FO3 for.
>>317415331
You should know by know that most people go through a "it's popular so it's gay and I hate it phase" in their life around 12-20 years old. Which is no surprise that this board is made up of a bunch of children.
>>317415083
Yes, good job anon.
>>317415348
>dont care about graphics as long as it has a great story
>bethesda
>Great story
L M A O
M
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>>317415848
That is a really good impression of a Redditor, you can stop now though.
>>317412515
>lighting updated
updated but certainly not improved
>>317415021
Have you ever been to a major city? Most big cities, in the US at least, have a Chinatown. That's the area where all the Asian immigrants end up. It's quite easy to go there and end up in an area where nobody is speaking any English, or if they do, they have heavy accents, even through multiple generations.
>>317415331
You're right. The textures don't look muddy and blurry at all.
>>317415852
The point is, it was a bad choice for Fallout. They didn't need to make it related to Fallout whatsoever and people wouldn't have such an issue with it. There was a list of how things worked that Bethesda didn't seem to understand or respect, and settlements being built in a land where food is growing and there's no green tinge to everything 70 years after the bombs fell is some of them.
>>317413026
too bad bethesda's animators are the worst in the entire AAA industry
>>317415021
>I don't live in America
>Why don't i see culturally/ethnically diverse communities retaining their identities?
You answered your own question fuckwit.
>>317415303
you... do understand that the building in your image is filled with a gas, right? That's the reason for it looking foggy like that.
>all this shitting on Fallout 4's graphics
I'd like to see you do better. It's a huge game, and it looks damn good AND it's at your precious constant 30 FPS.
the graphics are neither here or there.
they absolutely fucked the speech options in this game.
up: explain the shit you just said
right: shitty response
down: yes
left: "sarcastic"
and the charisma "options" are so predictable. oh look, im asking for more caps or telling someone to walk away, amazing!
Do the charisma options always show regarding of charisma level?
>>317415679
It is not Art Deco, though.
Sierra Madre is pure Art Deco.
Fallout 4 is Googie with a cartoony touch, same as the Jetsons.
>>317415485
well fuck.
>>317413814
>that is weird since its supposed to be post apocalyptic and everything would be covered in filth.
nigga
It has been 200 years.
People didn't magically forget how to clean up after themselves.
It's fucking baffling how much trash bethesda was acceptable for people to have scattered around their homes in fallout 3.
If they've stepped it up for fallout 4 then I guess that's 1 point of 100 they actually got right then.
>>317414869
Sorry yours are so impossibly high. Youd think for all the complaining you do youd have some self awareness about the way the industry for the hobby you enjoy works.
I think that as a PC gamer, the worst thing about PC gamers is that they are pc gamers.
>>317413026
I'll agree that the Boatfly looks good, same as the Synths and the Sentrybot but Super Mutants, raiders, people, and everything else looks like shit.
>>317416168
you sound more like a GAYmer
>>317415683
I'm deluded because I understand the art style?
>>317416131
fair point.
>>317416143
>Youd think for all the complaining you do youd have some self awareness about the way the industry for the hobby you enjoy works.
Poorly from the looks of it.
>>317415995
Yeah but various parts of California would likely not be bombed as heavily as the seat of power for the country. I agree, the move to DC was odd and unnecessary, but I can also see why it would be so much more fucked.
>>317414125
>Russians
>What is family
>What is segregated society.
>Rotten fish
So what if they're rotten? You can clearly see mutated dolphins and shit laying about half eaten or just dead. Those rotten fish are just recently dead fish.
>>317415947
el oh el, you so funny anon!
>>317415465
No, I'm saying that it's 2015 and in the several Fallout games that have been released, the majority of them had Enclave armor that had a very similar design with Fallout 3 being the exception.
So that's why I ask if Bethesda has explained why it looks different
>>317416143
It doesn't. The fact that it's an industry is the worst part about it. And you eat that shit up.
>>317416405
Yes so why bitch endlessly to anonymous people on the internet about it? If you havent accepted this is the way games are going stop posting here and head over to /vr/.
>>317416120
It is Art Deco. Modern Art Deco.
Fallout 4 is art deco as fuck.
>>317416478
Are you trying to say the lighting in fallout 4 isn't bad?
>>317416597
Make me.
>>317415995
>There was a list of how things worked that Bethesda didn't seem to understand or respect
They bought the rights to Fallout. They can do whatever the fuck they want with it. They can make the whole fucking game set in 1940's style Mexico but have bright, super saturated colors, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Do you understand that? Fallout is theirs to control now. They have no obligation to follow through with ANYTHING Interplay did with 1 and 2.
Took me 40-50 hours to wrap up a bunch of quests and then the main story. At a certain point I just decided to rush the BoS story and ignore the Railroad and Institute, didn't bother with INFINITE Minutemen quests.
I think the ammo perk is broken, 2 points and I had 500+ extra ammo shortly after for every weapon but shotgun.
Just felt meh, took away any weapon swapping because I was just overpowered as fuck.
>>317414125
>Fallout 4 is a clusterfuck of bad things the AAA industry is infamous for
>But I'm having fun, fuck you
Reminder that people saying this are redditors or literally belong there.
A kid can have fun with a box, A kid can have fun with COD, doesn't mean their opinion has any weight.
>>317414590
Yeah, it's the second best looking open world game I've ever played (first being the Witcher 3 of course).
I'll never understand people who say this looks like shit, some of the environments mind-blow me. With mods it's going to be a marvel.
Yes, it even looks better than GTAV.
>>317416785
That doesn't exempt them from criticism. Does it hurt your feelings when people point out the dumb shit they've done? Does your pussy start to ache and cry when you're confronted with comparisons that make Bethesda seem like a bunch of drooling retards?
>fallout 3
>crisp clear textures
>fallout 4
>blury piece of shit
Why
>>317416785
That doesn't change the fact it was a bad choice.
Do you understand that?
>>317416696
>Are you trying to say the lighting in fallout 4 isn't bad?
That's exactly what I'm saying. But then, I've played the game and actually seen it in motion rather than just judging it from shitty compressed screenshots. You said it's not improved, which is 100% wrong.
>>317416993
nah, it doesn't
>>317417037
F4 looks better in that shot.
>>317412515
>gunplay from average to horrible
okay this is bait
>>317417037
Orck(supermutant)don't care about leg day
>>317416936
I haven't even touched the ammo perk and I have over 4k .38 ammo. I don't even like using guns that use the .38, but I pretty much have to now since I have so fucking much of it.
>>317417073
>I've played the game
Anon you're full of shit, you clearly haven't.
>>317417037
>comparing youtube screengrabs
Oh shit nigger what are you doing. FO4s model is better imo all it needs is a texture swap which will happen eventually with almost everything in the game anyways.
>>317416969
Fallout 4 is a video game. A toy. Its sole purpose for existing is to have fun. If you can't have fun with a video game, I think maybe you need to find a different hobby.
>>317416674
That is not Modern Art Deco at all.
>>317417037
>Fallout 3
>crisp, clear textures
HAHA, what a story, Mark!
>>317411849
Man the power armor in f3 is so weak and puny, almost comedic
That's the reason I stopped playing that game, it had no upper tier gear I wanted to strive for and that's just a no-go for me in RPGs (or loot based action games in the case of fo4 :^) )
NV at least had the ranger armor even though the power armor in that was equally shit feeling
>>317417365
Babyz is a video game. A toy. Its sole purpose for existing is to have fun. If you can't have fun with a video game, I think maybe you need to find a different hobby.
>>317417125
He said average FROM horrible.
>>317417256
Everyone gets that much .38, every single raider uses pipe bullshit.
I was starved for .50, .308 and .44 before that perk.
>>317417090
I think PC GTAV, Witcher 3 and FO4 will be regarded as the "best looking" games of this gen. Seems like this generation of console graphics and games will be looked back on as the generation where developers finally learned how to use lighting and shadows properly.
>>317417380
"Modern" refers to the later half of the 20th century. We are in the Computer Era.
That is very much Modern Era furniture.
>>317416969
Honestly the improved gunplay made me realize why people like bethesda themeparks so much
I fucking hated fo3 because the gunplay was horrendous, it was worse than city interactive FPS games on all levels, literally the worst gunplay of any third of first person shooter I have ever played
But fo4 man? Shit, the writing is stupid, most of the characters are annoying, the story isn't very engrossing, there is absolutely no design put into the world, roleplaying doesn't exist and yet somehow I'm having a blast even after 30 hours and its all because of the gunplay and power armor
Also lighten the fuck up mate, people like shit cheesy low budget action movies and that's considered acceptable, why shouldn't this?
I still stand by my stance towards FO3 though, fuck that clusterfuck
>>317417715
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_modern_history
>I learned history from playing Civ 5
>The first comparison is between t-45 and t-60 (meme retcon lore break armor)
lel, what retards
Good texture and model mods will make FO4 so much better. All those closeups on everyone, especially Virgil and Strong, show off the "quality" of Bethesda way too well.
>>317417673
''Normies'' shit on FO4 graphics left and right so you're wrong on that account
>>317417278
no you.
>>317417862
More from art class.
But I suppose that's about as credible as video games anyways.
"Modern art." Bah, I always found it uninspired and trite. And bullshit. Very fucking bullshit.
>>317417073
In-door lighting is pretty good most of the times
Outdoor lighting sucks in almost all cases
>>317417673
Are you kidding?
Witcher 3, MGSV, Arkham Knight, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed, MKX, Black Ops 3, Dying Light, the Order...
All these look better than Fallout 4. I counted it already and Fallout isn't even in the top 20 of the best looking 2015 games.
>>317417935
no they dont what you refer to as a normie is a neo/v/ faggot. Normies love this shit. I also really enjoy the amount of work put into the 3d modeling. but I cant say that I'm a normie unfortunately.
>>317417834
You don't like Fallout then.
>>317416969
By that logic nobody's obinion has any "weight" including yours
>>317418145
>actually coming out and admitting you're a plebeian
>tfw we'll never have this
>>317418293
thats a weird picture to post with that comment.
>>317418267
I have browsed multiple comment sections of reviews and other articles, private as well as public torrent trackers and even a leddit article linked here. People in all of those cases have complained about graphics and its almost always compared to witcher 3 (which normies played, fuck off)
Also what you refer to normies are actually repressed teens because actual normies don't bother with bethesda games
>>317418343
>obinion
>>317418425
stop it anon. C&C is the only franchise ill never get over :(
>>317418293
Todd didn't really say that, did he?
>>317418293
That depends, I only really played fo3 and NV before this, liked NV and hated fo3, don't really care about your lore reasons but FO3 was shit as a GAME
I will eventually play the older ones
But yeah I don't really care about fallout lore, just in it for the post apoc good times, problem?
>>317418425
they made a game like this it just had aliens instead of mutants it fell flat on its ass. And you can guess why... thats right a new cod came out. cod killed utIII if I recall correctly. Cod is why things are the way they are to be honest.
>>317417191
I laughed pretty hard at this. Bethesda does it again.
>>317417935
How can I be wrong about a prediction that wont happen for years? Youre very aggressive.
>>317418248
AK looks like a slightly better AC, wont be able to play TR for a year, Syndicate looks good but not as good as Unity did and I havent played any of that other shit so I cant comment.
>>317418645
you can go ahead and slit your throat. No one would care.
>>317418727
Agressive in what way?
I'm just saying opinions spread like wildfire and a lot of people complained about the graphics even outside of /v/
>>317416206
>no HATE BABY
>>317418817
Wow, rude
>>317418645
When you end your life I'll spontaneously get a boner and will hopefully remember this post.
>>317417365
Holy shit. This is the kind of people browsing /v/ today? So much wrong with that post. I'm done with,this board.
Yeah dude. Videogames are clearly toys because you can have fun with it, just like, books and movies. Kids have fun with those too, so who, cares? Let's make all forms of entertainment pander to the lowest denominator.
People have fun with teen novels. Let's make all books like that. No one need life changing narratives.
People have fun with senseless action movies. Who fucking cares about cinematography and well written plot?
Seriously, the vidya industry is the worst of all entertainment industries. If having instant gratification fun is the only thing vidya has to offer, I'm done with this hobby. Seriously, existence is nothing more than being about passing fun. Who fucking cares?
>>317418853
in reality the wheel changes depending on what kind of character you play.
>>317411849
>8 year old engine
>still manages to look uglier than the predecessor
Da Phuc, Bethesda?
Bottom line is fo4 is shit and anyone that genuinely enjoys playing it, is a dumbass casual
>>317418528
Fuck off back to yili faggot
>there are fucking Gorillas in this game
>there is no questline to find mutated gorillas or something
What a waste of time making gorillas
>>317418912
the worth of your opinions here are akin to nothing so theres that.
>>317418819
You said I was wrong about a subjective opinion which is just silly.
>>317419058
That would involve something kinda interesting, world building, something you probably wouldn't be able to tell to "fuck off" and then shoot.
Why can I still not smoke cigarettes and cigars? You can do all kinds of other drugs but not tobacco
>>317418935
They'll always be a minority to laugh at and piss off
>>317417365
>this level of mad
>>317418935
fallout 4 doesnt do any of this kiddo. you should probably try it out before you shit on it. Its an improvement on any of the modern fallout games.
>>317418620
>You'll never play for three factions of Non, GDI and the Forgotten fighting for control of the borders of a Red, Yellow and Blue zone,all while just trying to survive
>You'll never battle tiberium mutated wild life scavenging for goods
>You'll never earn a GDI Zone Trooper suit with a hand Rail-gun, a Nod Shadow stealth suit with a Lazer-pistols, you'll never mutate with the Forgotten and carry 21st century weaponry
>You'll never come across groups who are stuck between the three big factions just trying to survive.
>You'll never pick who ultimately takes the zones
>>317419058
I wish one of the unique grenades/flares for siding with the institute wouldve been a helo drop of those Gorillas to wreck shit up.
>>317417191
is this fucking real? holy jesus. this looks like my drunk friend trying to use a hammer
>>317416131
mazlowe's hierarchy of needs, idiot.
People who struggle with basic survival needs generally don't give a shit about having a nice house.
Have you seen how people live in india and africa? They leave shit around everywhere.
>>317417073
>played on friends xbone
>vaseline
>vaseline everywhere
>need a perk to knock people over with 1000 lbs metal suit
>invincible npcs everywhere
>cant send people flying with pa punch
>cant pick them up and toss them
>running absolutely chugs fusion cores
So what is this steaming pile being praised for again?
>>317418998
>brother plays Oblivion
>it's kinda okay
>play it for a little while too
>Fallout 3 comes out
>i knew of fallout 1/2 from a friend but hadn't played them
>this is kinda cool
>brother gets really into it when i'm done
>ends up buying the DLCs when they come out
>meanwhile i'm playing Fallout 1
>he looks at it and instantly turns it down because "i don't like computer games" and other silly excuses
>New Vegas released
>really enjoy it
>he says it's boring with too much talking
>doesn't even finish it
why
>>317417037
>those fucking legs
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FAP TO THIS
>>317411849
Well honestly, geometry/landscape wise, yeah it does look about as rough as 3. It's mainly just far better lighting.
>>317419408
Cut them some slack. It's not a hammer watching simulator. It's a post-apocalyptic nuclear role playing RPG game.
>>317419475
Casual gamers outnumber the serious ones.
>>317419297
Fallout C&C conversion mod when?
>>317415624
Nigga, that ain't art deco then.
>>317418925
Why so hostile?
>>317413026
What are you using to show GPU info in top left corner?
>>317419475
I honestly didn't like fallout 1, 2 and tactics overall.
The gameplay pissed me off so fucking much but i had to complete them after i watched a few videos on fallout lore.
>>317419468
You also couldn't send people flying with pa punch in NV. Or knock people over in 1000 lbs metal suit. Or pick them up and toss them. So is NV a shit game too?
>>317415560
yes and all these dumb fucks can't understand this is how the series has always been
>>317419083
You imply that I care. Lol
>>317419787
But it's not a roleplaying RPG
It's an open world action game with light RPG elements. If people understood this, some of them would stop getting their butts blasted
>>317418392
Call me a sucker but I love Baroque Art and I wish that was still the kind of art the plebs enjoyed instead of menstruating on a canvas.
>>317419787
i think you're missing the point of what an animator's job is
also you can like something very much and still be critical of its flaws
>>317419297
>You'll never learn how to hi-jack walkers and tanks from the Forgotten
>You'll never be injected with Tiberium infusions to become immune to Tiberium radiation from Nod
>You'll never be given Tib-protective armor from the GDI
>You'll never fully mutate and become immune from Tib-radiation and is even healed by it like the Forgotten
>You'll never ride across the Red Zone in a Nod Attack-bike, or repair a Mammoth Tank and steam roll fuckers in it, or scavenge parts to make a rag-tag tank with mutant weaponry.
>>317418392
>>317420218
>modern art
>good
LEL I PISSED ON A PLASTIC STATUE OF JESUS, GIVE ME MONEY
YOU DON'T LIKE IT? WELL IT'S 3DEEP5U
>>317420346
It's year 2015 and "it's Bethesda, what you expect" is still a viable excuse.
Ayyy, forgetaboutit.
>>317413290
>air resistance does not exist
>>317420460
If you don't like it or get it, it's above you and you don't HAVE to buy it you poor fuck.
>>317420475
I know, I just think it's disappointing how people think any sort of criticism means you must hate the game and think it's utter shit
>>317420613
>actually defending modern art
back to tumblr/reddit/whatever shithole you crawled out of
>>317420460
Sounds like you've never actually seen modern art and you're thinking of the stereotype that all modern art has no focus, then again you're on /v/ so it's not surprising you have no thought for art
>>317420710
I'm from 4chan. Sorry you have a feeble mind.
>>317420619
I think most aspects of the game are shit but still like it for what it is (mostly pretending to be a super marine)
Get called a contrarian shitlord by buttblasted bethkids all the time even though I'm probably having more fun than them kek
>>317418293
Picking the best comment from Tim and out of context worst from Todd..
>>317420460
That's post-modern art you dumb nigger
>>317420778
>>317420786
Prove to me modern art isn't mostly horseshit
>>317420948
>prove to me yellow is yellow demanded the blind man
>>317417879
What lore did the t-60 break?
Just generally curious
>>317419468
>anon playing fallout 4 on friends xbone
>"I CAN'T DO THING !!! THIS GAME IS DIARRHEA SHIT OUT OF MY ASS!!! ID RATHER EAT A SKUNKS DICK OUT OF A PLASTIC BAG XD"
>"check out my youtube channel angrygamer.com"
>>317419297
>Not bringing peace through power
It could probably be done via mods.I'd do it if I wasnt so shit
>>317420948
As >>317420931 said,
"That's postmodern art, you dumb nigger."
>>317420778
modern art isn't shit but anything that belogs in the genre of "modern art" is shit
hope this clears things up
>>317413026
bait
>>317421210
Fair enough
>>317419468
Wow, using the OP power suit requires fuel?!!???? what a piece of shit game! I can't believe it! Why can't you just run through every area, completely invincible, and one-hit KO every enemy? You should be able to hit a button and have something awesome happen, that's just basic game design.
>>317421030
>Being this much of a stupid fucking asshole
It's not art.
>>317421260
Its probably ajoke
>>317421170
Post modernism is just a continuation and degradation of the mediocrity Picasso started though.
>>317421105
>What lore did the t-60 break?
>Just generally curious
t-51 was supposed to be the best pre-war armor at the time of the war. bethesda one-upping the original games with their original donut steel armor is kinda annoying
not to mention the t60 armor looks like it's way worse than the t51b. the t51b is all about round shapes and deflection whereas the t60b has random metal protrusions everywhere
>>317421396
Yeah, but you're using an example of postmodern art to say modern art is shit (it is though)
>>317421370
Honestly though the 'fuel' is so abundant you can just use the power armor all the time
Can someone name a game in the same genre as fallout 4 that looks better?
looks not plays just looks better
>>317421370
>Wow, using the OP power suit requires fuel?!!???? what a piece of shit game! I can't believe it! Why can't you just run through every area, completely invincible, and one-hit KO every enemy? You should be able to hit a button and have something awesome happen, that's just basic game design.
they already made that game it's called fallout 2
every playthrough you'll feel sort of compelled to get the ez mode armor and when you do, all challenge disappears until the very lategame
>>317421524
Who is the fool, the fool, or the fool who follows the fool?
>>317421209
Notice how close they are to the painting?
They're looking at the different strokes with the different brushes. You kinda put a shit example cause that particular piece does some crazy shit just with the color blue
>>317421646
the fool, but also, the fool
>>317421574
nuclear wasteland rpg-lite no, but there are plenty of regular old rpg's that beat it out in graphics
>>317415331
that looks like what MGSV would've looked like if it had been released 2008 and would've been called MGS:4 Guns of the Patriots
>>317421706
>"crazy shit"
>it's just some guy coloring a wall blue in different ways
but yeah i'm probably a philistine since i only really appreciate non-abstract art. i'm a big fan of romanticism and stuff like that. or maybe some abstract art is also nice but usually it just seems pretentious
>>317421802
okay such as?
>>317421646
The man asking the question, as knowledge of the fools would imply he is following both
>>317421884
i'm going to about to show you what a future buttslut looks like
*hands a mirror*
>>317421706
>shading is now the epitome of good art
I mean.
Kinda my point here. That's a learning exercise hanging in a museum.
>>317411849
>that fallout 3 sentry bot
This robot is programmed to fuck your mouth.
in my opinion art has been kinda fucked ever since someone achieved photorealism and people ran out of cool stuff to depict
it was like "now what??" and people started bringing dirty toilets into art galleries
also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA3D1UtSSQo
>>317421974
Witcher 2 and Lords of the Fallen off the top of my head
>>317422112
Running into one of those in survival without a missile launcher or a fat man, good fucking luck, it's either cheese it around a building or get fucked repeatedly
Why do the FO4 power armours look like they're made of plastic?
>>317413026
>in any game so far
That's not Crysis
>>317421924
And with that Anon put the whole modern art argument to rest.
Nothing will ever top the romantics and the classics. But right now art is taking a different taking more surreal and abstract forms, at least in the pop-culture realm.
That piece it self is a product of an artist exploring what ever they what to paint and how and people eating it up.
>>317421405
I thought the t-60 was a post war upgrade to the t-45.
Good to know tho.
>>317411849
I like that power armour design. It looks so clunky and unwieldy like the guys legitimately wearing enough iron that it could withstand a tank shell.
>>317422234
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA3D1UtSSQo [Embed]
the best part about this is that they made a bunch of fake art for this bit and no one could tell the difference
>>317413290
u are gay and dumb
>>317422257
>Witcher 2 and Lords of the Fallen
I own w2 anon
Witcher 2 looking better than Fallout 4 is a long delusional stretch imo
LotF I could give you because they kept the designs extraordinarily simple
You could have said Witcher3 and I would have accepted that.
I can see why people don't like fallout 4's graphics but it is honestly not that bad
>>317422234
Art kind of bent it's knee to commercialism and never bounced back, now all that's left is mostly shambling masses of people with no direction filling art galleries with stuff they themselves don't understand.
If you want good art you have to go through it the good ole capitalist way of either commissioning it, or having someone do nice shit and being unable to support their talent.
Something tells me bethesda didn't implement holstered weapons because they couldn't figure it out how to make it look with power armor
>>317422305
>Trying to kill it as a melee character
It just doesnt happen.I always ahd to finish them off with an explosive because I could never get enough distance
>>317422570
There a mod for that shit yet?
>>317422570
This sounds like the exact reason.
>>317422523
W2 had a lot more general effects and better individual world design imo. The lighting was better etc. I didn't say witcher 3 because of the expectation that this was a bait post desu.
LotF doesn't really have as simple of designs as much as it has a really good overall design that is well done and fits together well.
And no Fallout 4's graphics aren't that bad, but there are plenty of games that look better and that is what you asked. Fallout 4's graphics look okay, it was never a "push your card" game and never set out to be, the overall design of the game is well done, everything fits the theme well, it just isn't anything special.
The only issues I have with FO4's graphics are the shitty textures on some of the clothing and the water looking like jello, but those are trivial, the main problem is that it runs like garbage on my 980ti
>>317411849
Fallout 3 looks like a post-nuclear world...Fallout 4 looks like someone went to the park or something.
Aslo FO3's armor look grittier...why is Fallout 4 so clean looking and why did they think that was a good idea?
>>317422570
They didn't implement holstered weapons because of how much of a pain in the ass it is to get them to look even halfway decent. As well as getting them to work with the power armor as well.
>>317422570
They didn't do it because they are lazy and had to meet a dead line.
>>317423035
>FO3's armor looked grittier
>Reflective metalic sheen, completely undamaged, etc looks grittier
My power armor looked rusty and beatup as shit until I upgraded it and painted it, you know, like what would make sense.
Just got the power armor. What actions consume FC? Only running?
>this thread
>>317423035
Have you played fo4?
>>317414928
It's Googie, not Art Deco.
>>317423779
Go play your weeb games baka desu
>>317411849
It doesn't look like Fallout 3. But it does look lastgen as fuck. It's just that Fallout 3 looked lastgen for its generation. Albeit with better anti-aliasing.
>>317423027
>LotF doesn't really have as simple of designs
they're pretty simple
same kind of designs you'd see in any fantasy themed game
games like
kingdom of amalur
demon/dark souls
>The only issues I have with FO4's graphics are the shitty textures on some of the clothing and the water looking like jello, but those are trivial
I agree it is trivial but people on this board with nearly every pc centric game always have to make a big deal about it
I run the game on a 970 , Ultra, 60fps with godrays off. Godrays is probably a reason why the game is running like shit for you , godrays is not that special anyway at least not in this game where it just blurs the game.
the worst bug I have had is communicating with my companions and having the options disappear some times.
>>317423774
Moving.
>>317412561
IT'S LITERALLY IN THE GOD DAMN THUMBNAIL YOU RETARD
>>317415108
Fallout 3 used bumpmapping, as did many other games at the time, to create the appearance of depth and texture. It looks like shit. Fallout 4 uses a fairly minimalist art style.
>>317424043
Both Fallout 3 and 4 use normal maps, idiot. Fallout 3's were just in a much lower resolution compared to 4's, given the time period.
>>317424305
Not to mention Fallout 4 actually uses specular maps (took them long enough).
>>317424305
Bump maps are good to create the appearance of texture of highlight fine details, but around the time FO3 came out, most devs would rely on them completely to create any kind of detail. The result looked awful because 90% of the time you didn't even have to look hard to see an entirely flat surface painted with bump maps. I'm not talking about texture, I am talking about large details that you can't possibly simulate with the illusion of depth.
>>317411849
turrible
>>317411849
It still looks like shit for a 2015 AAA game. They need to get a new engine instead of this ancient gamebryo shit
Literally looks like an early Sega Dreamcast game.
>>317411849
you're right that power armor on the right looks terrible.
>>317415331
Looks like shit
>>317424641
yeah you've got a point there, excessive normal mapping with very low res geometry was around a lot back then
>>317424451
yeah, they use PBR now so they've got both roughness & specular
>>317418425
Was Tiberium alive like Phazon was? I don't remember.
>>317411849
c'mon, they're not bad. Just look at this gorilla's asshole
>>317415408
Witcher 3 runs on an engine where upgrading graphics beyond what the game offers in the settings and ini files is easy with mods.
Fallout 4 is running on a 15 year old engine that can't do shit beyond what Fallout 4 already does. Sure you can add high res textures, but that's as far as you can go. It's still not going to look like a game of today's standards as the rendering of most things in the game is terrible.
Just started it, looks decent, some issues with texture pop-in but it has been impressing me.
It's a pretty "fun" game, but nothing ground breaking at this point.
I'd give it a 85.
be warned
>>317425272
sick fuck get outta here
>>317425092
Truly breathtaking
Honestly I don't have a problem with the graphics. They are serviceable and are better than NV or Fo3 were relative to their time. The big thing holding 4 back is the writing, story and dialogue. I think improvements were made in most areas of the game but the those aspects are solid 2/10 in quality. It's ridiculous how Bethesda can make money by the shipping vessel full but can't hire competent writers.
>>317425272
why the fuck would you post that?
>>317420948
All this image tells me is that laypeople are impressed with toil and mistake this for art.
>>317425092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7EbtLb8ok
>>317416093
He's talking about in the game you fuckwit, you never see these communities of Asians, Indians, Irish etc. anywhere in the game so the accents seem out of place.
>>317419787
witcher 3 npcs looks 100 times better than this
no excuses
it's 2015
fuck off bugthesdaboy
>>317419468
muh vaseline filter is a complaint that's levelled at DOF
>>317425272
spooky
>>317425995
Oh man, I can't remember the last time I heard this song. love it
Fallout 4 looks like Skyrim.
>>317423968
its not the godrays, its the lag in cities and certain parts of downtown regardless of settings.
>>317415298
>being OP means it's good and fun
You're a trog.
>>317421884
jej
>>317417191
>Hammering nails with a ball pein hammer
>Even though he has a claw hammer in his belt
Triggered.
>>317418293
I wish tim cain and company were working on another World of Darkness game
>Developers focus on graphics too much.
>When they don't they don't focus on graphics enough.
No wonder the gaming industry is dying.
I beat it today.
Meh, was all I could really muster.
>Re-using Liberty Prime in the exact same way
Jesus, Bethesda has absolutely NO shame.
>>317427027
its shadows
godrays fuck ati but shadows on ultra fuck everythinh
>>317427789
They focused on nothing for this game. Maybe advertising and merchandise.
>>317427991
In FO3 the Enclave at least had vertibirds for it to shoot down.
I felt like I was along for a stroll with Prime in 4 since most of the combat was against random raiders and a couple of scripted behemoths.
I miss it
>>317411849
>falling for /v/ shitposts
>>317428390
I hated that stupid pipboy glove the Fallout 3 one hand.
>>317428058
I'm pretty sure I heard they focused on your mom.
>>317428680
Well it is an open world thats mostly empty
>>317428797
just takes a little creativity to really get into it though.
>>317415108
Wait for 4k textures done correctly.
Not the shitty ones with maxed contrast.
>>317419297
>this entire post
Anon why did you have to do this to me
>>317411849
>comparing T-45 with T-60
>>317415348
>huur graphics aren't everything
You can expect it to be up to 2015 standards for a AAA title.
If it's not, it deserve to be bashed for it.
It's like buying a car with a rusty body: huur the engine works fine alright
>>317411849
Haven't played Fallout 4 yet. Wow they really fucked up Super Mutants and Ghouls.
>>317430018
Ghouls looks good.
>>317415348
to be fair god rays is a blatant gimmick. but at least they didnt try and exclude ati this time.
>>317421030
>prove to me yellow is yellow demanded the blind man
do you love the smell of your own farts too
>>317412561
No, technically they're the same thing.
Like, the whole way power armor worked before fallout 4 (fallout 3 and NV, not 1 and 2) was just erased. There was power armor, but it worked like it does now.
>>317429705
>substance is nothing. Its all about how pretty it is.
dont be a faggot.
WHEN ARE THEY FUCKING FIX THE NPC/COMPANION INTERACTION
IT'S FUCKING HARD TO EVEN TALK TO NORMAL NPCS SOMETIMES AND IT'S EVEN HARDER TO INTERACT WITH COMPANIONS SOMETIMES BECAUSE I KEEP "MISSING", HOW DID THEY FUCK THIS ONE UP SO MUCH? EVEN SKYRIM DID IT BETTER
>>317430439
if you are complaining about the command system you are a faggot.
>>317420102
Except you could send people flying with a punch, knock them over with a metal suit and with knock knock you could toss them in the air
>>317430383
>FO4
>substance
M8.
You can feel how Id devs did their best to deliver a satisfying gunplay and bethesda slacking around to the last minute.
How do I git gud with building
I just cant get creative with it, only thing I built so far is a shitty 2 floor shack used as NPC bunkhouse
>>317425140
>Implying they didn't add a fuckload of technical goodies in this iteration
Come on son. You aren't going to sit there and say subsurface scattering was a thing in Fallout 3, are you?
>>317416206
>[Intelligence] The baby is drowning
>>317430641
you can feel how you dont know shit about nothin.
>>317430903
Go home todd.
>>317430775
>subsurface scattering
is a thing.
>>317422570
So disable it on power armor? Still have enough funds to make it work by using different animations and placement
>>317421209
hint: it's a ps4
>>317411849
I'm an Obsidiot, but god damn did FO4 nail the aesthetic. Like, the graphics aren't good technically and it runs like shit, but the color palette and most of the designs are pretty great. Power armor is the best it's been since FO1.
>>317421405
Really? I thought that the T-60 was a post-war upgrade and thats why the brotherhood used it.
Fuck me thats stupid.
They could've literally used that so easily.
It would also explain why its better than T-51 stats wise.
THAT IS STILL SACRILEGE HOWEVER.
>>317430018
Both look better
What are the things F4 did RIGHT?
other than gunplay?
>>317425584
I'm fine with the graphics. I'm just so relieved that I'm not exploring the Pea Soup Planet of the Uncanny Valley Puppet People this time around.
I think the biggest crime here is how poorly optimized the game is.
Nothing personal
>>317420948
It's shit but honestly, I'd consider a sculpture of a dude jacking off onto himself more art than a fucking dragon
What meaning, thought or idea am I meant to invoke from a dragon?
>>317431471
>Multiple Factions.
>Turned the BoS back into an ethically gray interesting faction.
>Institute was an interesting faction initially but was let down by an unclear goal and their whole dead-end FEV experiment plot
>>317431471
comfyness.
Why does Curie's voice give me boners
>>317431675
define optimized.
>>317421405
> the t60b has random metal protrusions everywhere
Not to mention the chestplate literally has a sink on top of it to catch your drool or some shit.
>>317431768
what a fuck
>>317431471
I liked some of the NPCs such as Captain Ironside
>>317421405
>tfw can't upgrade the T51 until it's as good as the x-01 can be
>>317432260
Lost my shit when they hit the other skyscraper.
>>317431768
>not RPing as the shroud
They all run away if you do it too
>>317431958
Because todd know exactly what you want, anon.
You also want to preorder the season pass, right, anon?
No fucking shit. The texture quality is roughly the same, it's the same engine so same implementation of various effects. The only change is the move to PBR lighting.
>>317432203
Blitz perk in agility.
>>317416595
>The fact that it's an industry is the worst part about it.
What does this even mean? You DON'T want people to develop games for a living? You DON'T want people to be paid for creating entertainment? You really don't want any games to be developed at all, apart from the occasional free game that someone made in their free time.
What I'm getting from your statement is: "Games shouldn't be sold because ???, and I would never like to see games developed by companies that try to produce a good product to make money. Also I'm 16 and DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!!!"
>>317414489
>look at me mummy, i'm argumentum ad populum with no hands!!!!
>>317432474
it doesnt work if you ever break character, apparently. which is why all these fags fail
>>317431768
>KING CRIMSON
>>317415298
Just because they took out wavedashing doesn't mean that smash 4 is bad retard
>>317411849
Left is using texture mods. Right isn't.
Am I the only one who likes the F4 power armor better? It just seems more bulky and badass like an actual power armor instead of a glorified suit of armor in F3/NV.
>>317432119
You want to run the game @ 1080p on ultra settings without dipping under 55FPS? Better get a Haswell or Skylake i7 and a 980 Ti.
>>317415691
>Hi, I play on consoles, I don't even know how to use google I'm so inept!
>>317433241
>am i the only one who likes
fuck this shit annoys me
>>317433457
I think you're the only one bothered by it.
>>317417191
>Ok gotta line it up
>gotta hit the nail
>on the head
>just
>gotta
>line
>that shit up
>...
>annnnd
>...
>now hammer it while staring at the Protag
>thats it mang
>>317432795
>argumentum ad populum
It's called inductive reasoning.
The enjoyment by millions is what is referred to as as "very strong evidence" to support the conclusion.
>>317433043
What the fuck
Wrong thread?
>>317416206
FO4 should also have
>What's a baby?
covers the fourth option
>>317433634
Hardly. You have "very strong evidence" to support the claim that lots of people like it. Great.
That does not go on to claim that it is therefore an objectively good product in terms of gameplay design, story design, world and atmosphere design or technical achievement. To do so, based on the popularity of the title, would be argumentum ad populum.
>>317411849
That actually looks great to be honest and it makes me want to get a ps4 for the first time.
Also I've just been replaying Fallout 3 and New Vegas and 3 is a much better game to play. The writing and music might be worse but at least there's stuff to shoot once you're levelled up unlike the empty fields of Nevada.
>>317433608
I just see it posted by every 14 year old in the youtube comments section
>>317433907
>game looks good
>get it for ps4 when it's available on PC
>>317433907
>bethesda
>consoles
it's a pc game
I hate how feral ghouls look in fo4 they're just zombies now and their animations are clunky. Also it feels l my shots go through them when they lunge and its fucking annoying.
>>317433907
>it makes me want to get a ps4 for the first time
>>317433332
I used to have this view but when you see how much detail is actually there I understand that it needs alot of power. I have a hd7850 2GB vram and the game is almost solid at 60 there are a few areas that dip 20 frames but its mostly corvega factory. I know for a fact it has to do with shadows. they put such high minimum requirements so pc crowd wouldnt cry when there were some fps dips. It totally playable on an hd7850 at 1366x768 which is my bedroom tv's native resolution. I use this tv for all console ports.
>>317433818
>To do so, based on the popularity of the title, would be argumentum ad populum.
No, it wouldn't.
"The earth must revolve around the sun because everyone believes it does" is an example of argumentum ad populum. "Millions of people have enjoyed the game" is not argumentum ad populum, it's evidence that the game is very enjoyable.
Sorry, kid, you aren't as smart as you think you are.
>>317415624
>art deco
>plastic
>>317414928
You're a retard trying to sound smart and making an ass of yourself.
>>317418935
It's faggots settling for shit. Simple as that.
Don't settle for shit anon and hopefully the people around you will do the same.
I mean look at this faggot >>317418645
How many of stupid anon's like the above haven't even touched the first two Fallouts?
Shit I was born in motherfucking 1994 and I played the first two before 3 came out. It was good. It had a lot of different ways to approach problems and made the world feel ALIVE.
FUCKING GOING THROUGH THE SAME 'U' SHAPE RAILROAD TO PROGRESS THROUGH THE STORY
OR RUN THROUGH HIGH LEVEL MOBS TO RUSH INTO NEW VEGAS WITH NO QUESTS OR ANY LAND MARKS
GEE FUCKIN THANKS.
>>317416459
But they're the only two you meet that are like that.
Those two having such thick accents can't be defended in any way unless they're fucking synths or some shit.
>>317423623
>>317423820
>rust goes away if you upgrade it to Model B or
>being able to just rust armor by degrading it to Model A
And what sense does it make that only Model A armor is rusted? Really, it should have been something that you could do as part of your Armorer perk in order to permanently fix it up, but instead it's tied purely to the armor model. It would be nice if just the T-45s and T-51s were rusted, but Bethesda shit the bed once again.
>>317418935
fo4 is a good game. Its still open world and nonlinear as you want it to be. The combat is much better than previous iterations. the enemy ai is much better. the modeling is top notch. I kind of feel all the hate comes from people that cant play it because they bought last gen cpu's on the pc.
>>317428390
is that just a sharpen filter?
mod looks worse, like a lot worse
>>317432424
9/11 never forget
>game has shit textures, models, lighting
>use a restrictive, soft color pallet
>use "realistic" post effects to smear and obscure everything
OH MY GOD LOOKS AMAZING NEXT GEN HAS ARRIVED GUISE
>>317415691
>modern "gamer" level of knowledge
>>317435019
>the modeling
this is objectively untrue, the game looks like garbage compared to mad max and metro which are right up its alley art wise. It's last-gen as fuck outside of the lighting.
There are also shit tier towns and cities and the writing is awful.
It's 7/10 at best.
>>317411849
Damn. It's a good thing that I chose to do my New Vegas run before playing FO4.
By the way, New Vegas is mostly a fuckton of boring fetch quests, and walking around mostly empty enviroments.
The only city that's not shit is Vegas itself, pretty much like Fallout 3 only had that first city full of junk as something decent.
I had this weird insight that without the nostalgia involved, modern Fallout would be considered kinda shit.
Basically i ran out of quests at lvl 30.
Been doing the seemingly infinite quests up to lvl38. What can i do now?
It just seems so small and there is so little to do.
I BELIEVE THE TERM IS "YAHOO"?
>>317420091
afterburner.
>>317435019
> The combat is much better than previous iterations. the enemy ai is much better
>Translation: it's not pure shit but it's still shit
>>317435341
go find an average room in FO4 and count the objects that use physics and can be interacted with
no go do the same thing with witcher, metro, mad max, fucking any other game to come out recently.
there's a reason the graphics are a bit shoddy
its because they know how much players love loot and scavenging.
if you want a pretty game then you have to give stuff up. We're not at a stage technology wise to have both just yet. So either play it or don't it doesn't matter what you do because believe it or not no one gives a shit about your or my opinion.
<3
>>317422314
the models in this game far surpass crysis. and I love crysis.
>>317435721
the ai is pretty relentless.
>>317435367
>I had this weird insight that without the nostalgia involved, modern Fallout would be considered kinda shit.
Through it all, the Bethesda/TES/Fallout (modern) formula is a huge deal that no one else does.
>>317435527
>so small and there is so little to do.
Explore. 11 minutes is a meme. You can get a lot out of this game without repeating radiants.
I'm level 57 and only just got to the bunker hill quest.
>>317435721
>dude just runs up and squats with no cover
>doesnt saddle up to the wall he was next to and aim his gun
that webbm has shit ai
not to mention the fucking in game building mechanic cause thats what customers have been drinking up recently... don't just forget that they added a whole other game basically into this one so that players can keep looting, customizing and building... but no it needs to have better textures on that grass, and that raiders hat doesn't have enough scratches to my liking.
entitled little shits
What game has "good" AI.
Hard mode: No RTS/Strategy/Barebones in every other area games
>>317416254
all those models you think are shit look good though
they just have blurry textures
youll see when the mods kick in
>>317435736
What's your point? That isn't modelling. A of those games use havok too you know.
They're shoddy because Bethesda sucks at almost everything they do. You can have both, mods show us that every time. As do good games like the ones I mentioned and other titles that have better physics and graphics.
And on consoles and probably PC they run better too.
>>317413026
>1366x768
>thinks he can see models
It's barely better than Skyrim.
Anyone can take a screenshot and say oh look this game looks shitty but did you watch the video I'll give that the Human Models and Armors are Debateable but everything Else FO4 wins at, plus the Graphical style is Different FO4 has a more realistic look to it while FO3 looks like a fucking Video gameish with a hint of realism Even when it first came out
>>317436294
If you can take a shitty screenshot in literally every area of the game then it's a shitty looking game that could use a lot of improvement.
Fallout 4 is that.
>>317435918
I like the formula a lot, but since it goes for such an immersive experience, the actual quality of the content suffers. It's all fetch quests, reskinned enemies and the same old caves everywhere.
There's rearely some interesting side quest like Vault 22 and the plant zombies.
The characters are almost all boring and irrelevant, and most of the places marked on your map consist of a single trailer, camp of a few houses, where most are inaccessible.
I guess the enjoyment of playing these games is mostly dependant on how new the formula is to you.
I prefer the monster design in Fo3. They were so fucking gross to look at that it just creeped me out whenever I saw a Mirelurk or scorpion running towards me.
>>317436292
do you know how poly counts work?
then if you understood my question you would realize that the reason the models might not be the best is because each fucking room is packed with a shit ton of different items and objects, half of them you can manipulate, pickup and even destroy. If every fucking model had the quality you were asking for then there wouldn't be a commercial rig strong enough to run the game. You just can't have that much content and photo realistic models.
sure the textures could be improved and i do agree SOME of the modeling is iffy, but for the scale of content in the game then i truly believe its something you can forgive, especially as it doesn't actually get in the way of the gameplay experience.
>>317413646
The way the ghouls move in Fallout 4 is nerve wracking.
>>317414014
> is retarded
Pull that cock out of your anus faggot, you're not smart nor I sightful, if anything the contrarian is you. Asspie.
>>317436292
thats plenty of fidelity to see the models. It looks great on my 32 inch lcd I use for console ports. Also the models in this game are better than anything I have ever seen.
>>317414489
> millions
B8
>>317434397
>"Millions of people have enjoyed the game" is not argumentum ad populum, it's evidence that the game is very enjoyable.
I literally can't argue with that, you're just saying "NO IT'S NOT".
So okay, I'll let you think that lots of people thinking a game is good makes it good. That's fucking retarded, but sure.
>>317436292
right. its entierly possible to make the game look better, but then you alienate people with lowet tier rigs, and you essentially have to create an entierly different set of assets for consoles.
beth isnt the only company reducing visual fidelity because of consoles, either. they all do it now.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2030/?
Which one of you is it ?
>>317411849
Why does everything look so soft in Fallout 4?
>>317437137
>makes it good
>evidence that the game is very enjoyable
wew lad
>>317437216
>someone is this buttmad
>>317435918
>Explore.
I have explored every area of the map with no icons (except the crater).
Theres nothing to do.
>>317436649
Every game has a lot of assets.
Low polycount and shit art style =/= good quality models
Textures are shit too.
Manipulating forks is an extreme gimmick.
>If every fucking model had the quality you were asking for then there wouldn't be a commercial rig strong enough to run the game
Are you really so retarded to think SMIM for Skyrim is computationally impossible? Oh boy.
There isn't a single really good model in the game.
>>317436823
>>317437158
good goy
>>317435721
>Man with infinite stealth perk has infinite stealth
Isn't that the point?
>>317437216
>430 posts in
I don't get it.
>>317421209
Is this supposed to represent Moses parting the Red Sea or something?
>>317437178
Obviously you
>>317437178
>Ghoul as the poster-child of the mod
Still not as good as that heavy rain mod
why is this board, which is supposed to be about people that love vidya more than anyone else, the only place that isn't happy with this game?
Why does the advanced power armor look more like an iron man kind of suit rather than an armored exoskeleton
>>317415378
No, you are. Just stop posting dipshit.
>>317411849
Fallout 4 is soulless.
>>317436294
>F3
>sensible right-bolt
>F4
>communist leftie piece of shit dumbass fuck left-handed bolt
Why the fuck
>>317437552
>capital city even worse than solitude
>shit story
>basically no quests
>shit melee compared to new vegas
>removed gameplay elements
>casual levelling
>Added physically based rendering and volumetric lighting
>Can't manage to get shadows working inside buildings
Bethesda please
>>317437303
Then do quests?
I don't understand how you managed to only be level 37 while having explored so much and presumably completed the quests/looting/building there.
>>317437326
making fun of me for not having the newest and best hardware. Make sure you get that new ipod 6 surely you wont be ostracized if you do.
Only thing Ill say about Fallout 4 graphically is that the textures are amazingly low res.
On one hand Im okay with it because my rig isnt too powerful, but on the other its pretty embarrassing.
>>317415624
What an ignorant little fuck you are
>>317437580
2 steps forward, 10 steps back :^)
>>317437664
Don't make me defend fallout 4 against manufactured retardation.
What the fuck is casual leveling? This isn't modern WoW.
lets all just forget they added a whole building mechanic to the game because that wall doesn't look wall enough.
>>317437451
you must be new here. Ever since the tortanic all anyone wants is for every game to fail. for the luls.
>>317437672
>Added physically based rendering
Not really, it's the worst attempt at it there has been yet.
>>317437812
It's worse than that game.
>>317419461
No one is struggling to survive in fallout 4 really though.
>>317437889
Tell me what casual leveling is.
>>317427554
jesus they fucked up
>>317411849
i never finished fallout 3 until a week ago because fallout 4 was coming out.
I always got to the part whereyour father diesor slightly further to when you go to the lab behind the town full of children.
But after finishing fallout 3 and now playing fallout 4, I can say that fallout 3 is not even close. Theres just not enough going on in the world its so dead and boring. (Probably doesn't help I don't like wasteland plot themes fallout/stalker)
New Vegas was the best one of the series though.
>>317437982
>No one is struggling to survive in fallout 4 really though
No, if any of these settlers weren't immortal and didn't have myself or my badass security system rigged up, they'd be murderaped.
>>317427554
vidya devs cant into anything. But its still a good game and I hate shit like that.
>>317437672
Gamebryo has had the same 4-light limitation for 13 years now. It must be something that they just can't fix. It's really disappointing going from full dynamic shadows from the directional light of the sun outdoors into literally nothing has shadows indoors.
>>317437889
It's definitely the least impressive implementation of PBR in a game so far, but they did go through the effort of adding it. It's a weird sense of priorities that they'd overhaul the shaders but not bother to implement something like Beast (which has native Gamebryo support) to get shadows in their game.
>>317437676
I dont have any quests to do.
>building
Im not expected to build at every farm right? I need levels for the charisma so i can have supply lines.
Building inteligence sure is regretful
>>317424767
>15 fps on low
>>317433689
>not "ITS SHAUN WHERE IS HE"
>>317438313
its just another reason to replay the game with a different character anon why so salty?
>>317416674
Man stop embarrassing yourself already, you clearly don't know what Art Deco is, just, stop.
>>317438446
>>not "ITS SHAUN WHERE IS HE"http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1454/?
>>317416993
how can modders make an poorly ported old open world game (gta4) look better than both of these games?
>>317411849
it really, REALLY doesn't
Fallout 4 actually looks good, and some of the animation is great, some of it is still Bethesda tier
>>317438313
What difficulty are you playing on? How do you know you're out of quests? Did you beat the main story?
Supply lines are helpful but unnecessary.
Intelligence, beyond crafting and hacking, is an underwhelming tree overall.
>>317411849
How come the eye slots aren't yellow?
>>317438531
do you?
>>317438553
thank you for this anon
>>317411849
Armor on the right looks like it's made of plastic.
>>317438623
They glow yellow when your light is on. Guess they wanted a way to keep the flashlight placement without adding one.
A dull yellow would've been nice. Mods will fix it.
>>317411849
>watch first 3 seconds
>compares t-45d armor with t-60
>wut
Hey v what do u do after beating the story I felt like it was kinda short, I have 2 missions left.
>>317438746
its also about half the resolution.
>>317419931
Saying your a hardcore gamer makes me worry about people. Its like saying you are a hardcore drug addict. Its really neat to tell people who share in that addiction and are ok with it, but to other people, you look just fucking weird. Did videogames become a job all of a sudden or is it that you can't let go of the past because "muh childhood, muh older games are better, muh I haven't had fun in years because graphics are shit tier" I'm just wondering yo. Or maybe it is because you want change, but when people change it, you piss your pants because it wasn't the specific change you wanted?
>>317438787
Mods did fix it
>>317438493
Im not salty im just daying theres not much to do. The settlements are a joke.
But its cool that you admit that theres nothing to do. I guess ill just have do the main story with the institute side instead, otherwise replaying the same shit.
>>317438819
Shoot through the same locations filled with generic enemies for the next 80 hours
>>317416993
>Yes, it even looks better than GTAV.
It's not even fucking close.
>>317438819
I went and fired the Big Boy at random shit then closed the game
>>317420213
This is the shit that makes me mad. Fallout was never an RPG. Ever single character you had, wether the vault dweller or chosen one, even up to the New Vegas courier, you had a backstory. People piss their pants because they say, "Fallout 4 ruined rpg's because of bethesda." True, they fucked up multiple times, but saying that Fallout was a rpg to begin with is bogus.
>>317418267
> unfortunately
You're a fucking disgrace
>>317438863
Where is this stealth shitpost coming from?
>>317438819
Become a noir comic book super hero, complete a century old bit of scientific research, return a deathclaw egg to it's mother, help a kid find his confidence, pull a heist job with a ghoul, build a cock in your settlement with lights.
>>317438863
hardcore gaming is not what most people portray it as. Its a kin to speedrunning. Its people that arent good at anything so they find something so obscure that they can be the best without much competition.
>>317439114
I know.
>>317439168
So what you are saying is...that people only become hardcore gamers in certain games, such as Fallout or some random rpg game, or any other game, because it makes them feel good about themselves in doing a talent that no one else can? That's...a little sad desu.
>>317439287
no it would only be the people that actually compete. Anything less could not be considered hardcore gaming.
>>317439287
As sad as anyone who's tried to get into the guiness book of world records. All pathetic losers each and every one. Also everyone that wants the best stamp collection or coin collection. Everything >>317439168 doesn't have an appreciation for really.
>>317438575
>What difficulty are you playing on
Normal, switched to easy sometimes when i ran out of ammo.
There is probably quests but i cant find them i guess..? None in my log, almost nothing in micelaneous.
Ive done main story (BOS), all the missions i could find and then lotsa radiants.
Crafting higher tier stuff is sorta pointless up to this point since i found a explosive pipe rifle.
>>317439370
Thats what I never understood. Why do people do that? Gaming isn't really a skill, no disrespect to anyone who does it. I just feel like a skill is something like, fixing things, being a teacher, or something.
>>317439476
I know why people do it. I got in nintendo power at 8 years old for getting a top 5 highscore in top gun. I get it, its just nothing.
>>317438863
Not that anon, but how the hell do you did you connect 'serious gamer' to a hardcore drug addict and rant for a paragraph about his 1 sentence statement that wasn't even entirely relevant to your post? People can be enthusiastic about certain activities, its called having a HOBBY you sperg.
>>317439646
its their chance to be good at something. Its not that hard to understand.
>>317439646
As "gaming" it isn't much of a skill but it can take skill. Writing math problems and telling people to do them isn't much of a skill but working a child through something they don't understand is.
Picking up ryu and mashing buttons doesn't take skill, winning EVO takes skill.
>>317439719
>its just nothing
But it is to some people.
A birthday is "nothing" until people make it something.
>>317440017
believe me its nothing.
>>317434368
>It totally playable on an hd7850 at 1366x768
Hmmm... I wonder why its running at 60fps in non-expensive areas.
But nevertheless, you aren't completely wrong.
If you turn off godrays and put shadow distance to medium, you can run the game at max 60fps with my fx - 8350 and my gtx 960.
>>317431810
Majesty, grandeur, insignificance, power, just to name a few.
>>317439749
A hobby that can destroy your life. If you let it. Gaming could get you to become addicted, causing problems.
>>317414125
>Find Maritime Conservation Institute
>200 years after the bombs fell
>there's still fish freshly rotten on the expositors
>?????
Actually, I can explain this. Overly irradiated bio material doesn't decay. This is because fungi and bacteria can't grow in radiation to break it down. If you look up some articles about the trees around Chernobyl, you'll find that the trees keep growing, but when they shed their leaves, they don't decay. This is the same concept.
>>317440174
I turn shadow distance down to medium and also the fade thing to medium. But everything else is maxed out. I only rarely get slowdowns and its from those crazy moving tree shadows that are super complex but amazing looking. wish I had some more vidya card. I'm a solid 60 fps advocate.
>>317440445
Try putting shadow detail to high. the game preforms better, and at not much of a cost.
>>317440620
actually I think I do have shadow detail at high now that you mention it.
>>317440150
Until you have thousands willing to watch and cheer you one as you do it, record your name and accomplishment, and think of you as a member of a community of others with the same passion.
Your Nintendo Power highscore didn't mean much, but someone else's world record Ocarina of Time run meant a lot.
>>317440303
So, every hobby? Gotcha.
>>317440740
it was basically considered an incomplete-able game. I did it at 8 years old. If there was such a thing as competitive gaming at that time I would have been known. This was "the wizard" kind of shit son.
>>317440983
Born too early to win the applause and adulation of speed running fans, born just in time to reduce their passion to nothing in your eyes.
>>317441187
I peaked at 8 years old. I know my plight.
>>317441187
something almost no one knows about top-gun. The final stages are against ufo's. I havent seen any lets plays get through top gun so this is some privileged information.
>>317442128
>The final stages are against ufo's
This is some kid down the street bullshit, but i'll believe it.
>>317442394
my dad used to work at nintendo.its true though
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