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Who else dropped FO4 and went straight back to New Vegas?
>New VegasLOL
I finished FO4 and feel like playing New Vegas so I'm starting a new playthrough.
Does anyone know how to change the menu controls so they match FO4's? I'm too used to Tab exiting containers and R being Take All.
So why do people hate that Oliver guy again? I just started playing and all he does is yell about a lottery and run around.
A package courier found shot in the head near Goodsprings has reportedly regained consciousness and made a full recovery.Now that's a delivery service you can count on!
>>317378965
They don't hate him; it's just funny to kill someone so relieved to be alive.
>>317378697
what am i even looking at?
>>317378726
not sure about menu controls anon,there may be a mod for it but i'm not too sure
>>317379174
>Obsidiot can't into map design.
Color me shocked.
>>317378697
subtlefuck off
>>317378697
This is one of the lamest bait ever.
Just finished Lonesome Road, I feel like shit forsacrificing ED-E, especially after bonding with it and rescuing it, because stopping the nuke felt like the right thing to do and the little robot was so determined to stop the launching.;_;
>>317379078
>42 hours into the game
>he's still saying that
For fucks sake
>>317379336
your diagram follows the same style as a stupid MSpaint comic.
>>317377895
This is actually exactly what happened to me. I know it's not a masterpiece, but damn it's better than FO4
Has anyone used Obscurum Pandemic? I was considering actually playing it but it's a big mod and I don't want to waste my time on another shit-shoot like DUST.
After 60 hours of 4 I'm playing 2 again
Will probably try another new build in NV afterwards
>>317379561
Yet you can't find a way to refute it, without insulting the argument itself.
>>317379743
It's exactly like dust, except shittier.
>>317377895
Holy shit. Am I the only one on this fucking board who enjoys all the Fallout games? I liked 1, 2, 3, NV and I like 4. Why the fuck do people need to pick their sides and call the other games shit?
>>317379174
>what am i even looking at?
He's comparing a dungeon to a Town
>Want to try my fully upgraded anti-materiel rifle and the explosive rounds I just bought
>Go to quarry junction
>Spot Deathclaw Matriarch in the distance
>Fire three rounds at her before she even has the chance to move
>Literally explodes into pieces
>Babies flying all around
Why is this weapon allowed to exist?
>NV
lel
NV being the ugliest least engaging fallout to date I doubt many people did. Most people I know never liked NV to begin with, I'm pretty sure the only people that enjoy that garbage title are a very very small vocal minority here on this board. It's trash.
>>317380037
>>317379743
what was wrong with Dust? People here seemed to like it a while ago
>>317378697
And this is why F3 will always be better
>>317380352
>>317380314
this desu
>>317380314
A boring mess of a mod where the only point was to shoot things.
>>317380221
Your box is mighty small friend.
>>317380314
DUST is just so slow and tries so hard to focus on the "YOU WILL DIE A LOT" stuff. It's got some nice ideas, but it shoots itself in the foot a lot.
>>317378697
>Enjoying having to go through the same looking subway system over and over again fighting the same enemies over and over
I liked the idea but after a while that shit get's repetitive.
>>317379475
>not having 100 speech
>>317380471
jesus christ
>>317380645
Subway > desert
>>317380206
>neogaf
lel
>>317380798
Oh boy! i sure do love going through copy & paste corridors all the time
>>317379938
Dude that diagram was designed blatantly wrong.
>>317380798
I could actually see and there's usually more enemies then just Ghouls so I disagree.
>>317380471
>FO3 had good and evil so it's the exact same
Holy shit the amount of retardation in one post.
So what's the overall best (in terms of not affecting performance too hard while still looking good) world texture replacement? I've heard Poco Bueno + NMC's texture pack work pretty well.
>>317377895
>Got to the Strip
>DROP EVERYTHING
>AND GAMBLE
>Having fun just gambling for caps, getting mad at De Luxe for stealing my chips
>Wind up playing Hitman taking disguises and sneaking through the kitchen to rescue a man in the meat locker
>That Medicine check on the chef where it takes several sentences before it finally succeeds
Oh, and the freedom to be scum of the earth early game and settle into a nice neutral after that feels great killing anyone I feel deserve it, karma be damned.
I really wish this had a weapons trading system or some kind of online mode
Plying with my [/spoiler] Girlfriend
And I really wish I could give her some of my weapons or go along withe her in the game
>>317380964
Oh boy! I sure do love going through a copy & paste desert all the time!
>>317381084
F3 has subway systems AND a wasteland. NV map is bland and boring af
>>317381435
Lel
>What is fast travel?
Enjoy not being able to fast travel cos you're in a completely different non-euclidean space.
>>317381435
>new vegas has over twice as many locations as fallout 3
>but fallout 3 is better because it has 10 copy pasted tunnels that have nothing to do with anything
Lmao
Sadly, I've played it too many times to be able to go back and do it again. I wish I could wipe some memories.
So I'm on my first play ever.
Is there a mod I can get to make my companion not attack AT FUCKING ALL? I'm using ED-E for Enhanced Sensors and that's it. Despite having it set to Be Passive and Stay Back and whatnot, it still ends up firing the first shot and blowing my cover sometimes.
>Oldschool Bethesdrones think their joke of a game is somehow vaguely okay now because it's older and Fallout 4 is shit too
Pathetic.
>>317381324
That's actually my favorite quest just because of the ending where it's revealed they're cannibals to the public.
>>317381529
>what is immersion
Also
>I-i d-don't care about the copy pasted desert, I c-can fast travel
>admitting that 95% of NV map is shit
>>317381435
The only thing I think Fallout 3 does better is that the map is larger and you genuinely can go just about anywhere from the get go unlike NV where they do make you go through a fixed path. Everything else such as gameplay, story and overall roleplay though? NV all the way.
>>317381708
>new vegas has over twice as many locations as fallout 3
See
>>317378697
>>317381719
I'm pretty sure JIP Companions Command and Control has something like that.
>>317380471
>after a brotherhood guy who was EVIL for some reason
>the brotherhood is a force of good and justice in the wasteland
>>317380471
>the brotherhood is a force of good and justice in the wastelands.
Aren't they just a group of dicks who just want to horde all the tech? Even FO 4 makes them look bad with their "kill all the synth" motif.
At least FO4 actually continues on that major side quest from FO3, establishing on the commonwealth/synths/etc.
What the fuck does NV fit in all this?
>>317381862
I'll check it out then. Thanks bro.
>>317381839
>>317381743
>>317381435
is there anyone worse than FO3 fags? this is a NV thread, you don't have to be here
>>317381839
>comparing the underground (inconsequential system that connects some parts of the DC) to the strip which is basically a big hub town
>>317381909
>What the fuck does NV fit in all this?
You need to actually play 1 and 2, which is a dumb decision because they're literally unplayable isometric turds with objectively outdated JRPG combat.
>>317381839
>M-m-muh chart says ur wrong!
How about actual maps.
>>317381927
>Fallout New Vegas has 15 factions
>only two of which are MAJOR ones
Nice try.
>>317381839
>remove 90% of surface area in DC
>put metro tunnels instead
nice game bethshits
>>317381835
>"MUH QUEST" the obsididrone cried
They had to do something to appease the autist and make up for the fact that 95% of the map is empty
>>317381743
I bet you hate FO1 and 2 then just because you can travel on an overworld instead of manually moving turn by turn past encounter and encounter to get to town.
Nigger FO was designed with fast travel in mind from the start, it's a PnP game. Everything Beth did was nothing but to streamline and spoil it.
Plus just like real life and FO3 there's jack shit to do anywhere outside of anywhere. The world design can only be interesting to travel through once to get fast travel up.
>>317377895
I bought New Vegas a year ago on sale and never installed it. I didn't buy into the FO4 hype and /v/'s shit posting to to me too. I'm thinking of installing and playing New Vegas, are there any essential mods I should download?
>>317381909
>What the fuck does NV fit in all this?
It actually continues the stories of 1 and 2 you fucking idiot
>>317382005
Yes, NV fags.
>>317378697
The map of NV is really its ultimate flaw. It got so much else right but the map is complete shit.
>>317382134
>only two of which are MAJOR ones
Factions that can influence the ending of the game greatly:
>Brotherhood of Steel
>Enclave
>NCR
>Legion
>House
>Boomers
Major factions that influence the ending of Fallout 3:
>You, because there's no actual way to side with the Enclave, you can just be an edgy renegade and that's all
>>317382175
see
>>317382049
>>317381909
NV is fucking full to the brim of references to the events and locations of 1 and 2.
Reminder NV is actually Fallout 3
>>317382137
>DC doesn't have metros!
Retard detected
>>317382005
The people who respond to them are equally as bad. Shitposting attracts shitposting.
>>317382283
Fallout 3 already continued the older games story with The Brotherhood, Enclave and Super Mutants.
New Vegas was the first "main" Fallout game to not even have Dogmeat and Harold, it practically isn't canon
>>317382175
>95% of the map is empty
>NV
Sure you don't mean FO3, chum? ;^)
>>317382371
fucking perfect
Recommend me a unique build
i'm running out of ideas
>>317382384
that's my whole fucking point idiot
the fact that there are metro tunnels in DC doesn't matter as topside of the map is 90% unusable anyway
>>317382264
Fallout General on /vg/ should have a pasta with mods, can't really go wrong with performance-enhancers and bug-fixers, also JSawyer.esp for more hardcore experience (still not very hard though), but beware that it greatly cuts both your HP and carry capacity, while adding weight to stuff like healing items, so you won't be able to carry 10 different guns with ammo - if you're a pack-rat, probably skip it.
>>317382478
John Cena build, tag unarmed , stealth, and melee, use only melee weapons used in a WWE match.
>>317382371
Reminder that shit Vegas never would have been made with out based god Bethesda
>>317382328
NV is better then 3 no doubt but it pissed me of the Enclave can't side with House or Independent.
>>317377895
So, do the side objectives that aren't main quests effect what groups think of you?
I'm trying to get Liked by the NCR so I can get ranger armour early, but I've done all the quests that I can find, so now I only have those side objectives to do.
>>317382264
Project Nevada should be plenty. Hardcore mode is seriously optional since the only thing it does is make managing your limbs harder. Any explosion or strong gust of wind can break your legs, and you'll suffer for a long as fuck time until you get to a doctor to heal up, since doc bags are pretty rare. However it does make things do-or-die quite a bit until you get companions and decent armour.
Just don't enable Alternative Repair, breaks you game. Also cyber tech mod is bad I hear.
>>317382415
Reminder that Bethesda literally confused West-tek with Vault-tec.
>>317382541
>NUCLEAR bomb dropped directly on DC
>hurrrrr why is everything destroyed durrrrrrr
Why are obsididrones so stupid?
Anons what is the current /v/ archive? I need to find the recent "difference between dialogue choices in F1, 2, 3, NV and 4" pic about a kid drowning.
>>317382415
>Dogmeat
Him being in 2 isn't even canon, he's a special random encounter
>Harold
yes, because it's so easy to get around when shitty writing turns you into a tree
continued the older games story with The Brotherhood, Enclave and Super Mutants.
No, it's starts a different story about a separate Brotherhood group and a separate Enclave group with Super Mutants being made in a different way
>>317382264
For your first try?
Look up some mods to help not make the game look like ass like ojo bueno, nevada skies, eve, interior lighting overhaul, new vegas redesigns, ect.
Afterwards look up some game play changing ones like project nevada, jsawyer, a world of pain, etc.
>>317382005
They are the sonygger of the fallout universe.
Cancerous with their casual and retarded opinions
>>317382415
PLEASE explain how Fallout 3 follows the STORY of the previous games.
>>317382415
Top kek
>Muties on the east coast is logical
>Minor characters becoming literal gods on the other side of the continent for no reason is too
>>317381891
The Brotherhood are literally just raiders but with a cause.
>>317382667
Side quest help with your reputation and are necessary if you want to have a faction help you out. Help the NCR long enough or join them in the main quest and they'll give you a key to their bunker where you can get range armor if I recall.
>>317382415
ayy fucking lmao
How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves with no intelligent leadership? It took The Master years to perfect the dipping process
How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves when anyone they kidnap would die instantly to the 3,600 rads/second at the entrance of the vault
What experimental conditions were Vault-Tec trying to test by locking up a bunch of people with a massive amount of extremely dangerous mutagenic virus? How to kill the fuck out of everything as fast as possible?
How and why does Vault-Tec even have any FEV at all? Did Bethesda honestly confuse West-Tek with Vault-Tec?
How does Col Autumn get inside Vault 87?
Why is a GECK now a matter manipulation device and why is such a powerful tool being wasted on making a water purifier for water that shouldn't even be radioactive in the first place?
How does Dad even know what a GECK is and plan a machine to use a component he has never seen or used before?
Why does your father design a purification machine that is capable of dumping all its radioactive filtrate into the control room as a "trap"? Was Dad a psychopath? How is the radiation trap even possible when the purifier is not even complete at that point and not active?
Where did the Jet in FO3 come from? There is no manufacturing capability nor any semblance of Brahmin ranching, especially considering that D.C. is supposedly a lifeless wasteland with zero resources, food, or water for no real reason.
What in the fuck is up with the Talon Company? Who in the fuck has enough resources and wealth in the D.C. hellhole waterless struggling wasteland to afford a clone army with unlimited resources? What is their purpose? How do they even work on a logistics basis?
Why does the East Coast use caps as currency? What are caps backed with?
>>317382371
>Complaining about Fallout Tactics
The fuck's wrong with you?
>>317382925
Oh yeah I know how to get the key to the Ranger Outpost, I just wanted to know if I am wasting my time.
>>317382415
I was going to reply seriously to this, but I can't. Bait is too obvious.
/r/ing the pic >>317382784
is talking about
>>317377895
Me.
My absolute biggest wish that is game-related is that Obsidian would make a new Fallout with FO4's combat, gun modding and settlement building (except they are actually useful)
Obsidian knows how to make a RPG. Bethesda doesn't.
>>317383062
>>317382925
Oh, and also, how the fuck are you supposed to clear out Vault 3? Is the solution to just wait until late game were you have a high enough damage threshold to tank the damage from the fiends?
trying to install PN and it says i have a HUD extension error and the mod doesn't work. anyone know what i can do?
I dropped FO4 and went back to F:NV and then got bored in 4 minutes
>>317382371
The BoS in Fallout Tactics are, in my opinion, the BEST Brotherhood.
>>317383351
Do the speech check to make them let you in peacefully
Or wear Great Khan armor so they do. Once inside you can systematically take them out with stealth or just a big surprise attack
>>317383351
If you help out the Great Khans, you'll get a mission that'll allow you to visit the Vault unharmed.
>>317377895
I would if I hadn't already replayed it earlier this year.
>>317383296
>gun modding
You can't have actually rare and unique guns like This Machine and modding. Also the enchantment system is stupid. Stupid!
>settlement building
I hate this too.
>>317383351
What damage? When I played the game they had shit like .22 SMGs, 10mm SMGs, flamers etc. and I had that armour from V34 that I've gotten at like XL11. I was playing on Normal but with Sawyer's mod so I had like 140 HP, but they died fast enough they didn't have time to damage me.
>>317383039
IT JUST WORKS
>>317383624
>You can't have rare and unique guns if there's modding
Yeah you can. There's gun modding in New Vegas you fucking retard.
>I hate this too.
Settlements is literally the one objectively good idea Fallout 4 had.
>>317382756
>nuclear bomb dropped
>ruins of buldings standing
>rubble suddenly appears on the streets forming walls
>white house is the only major building razed
nice bomb
>>317383568
I'm already vilified by the Khans. Does that mean they'll shoot me on sight, or they're just butt hurt?
>>317383546
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the speech check. I'm playing an autist with like 7 speech points.
>>317383039
>How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves with no intelligent leadership? It took The Master years to perfect the dipping process
bethesda writing, especially since it was implied that super mutants were uniquely the master's creation
>How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves when anyone they kidnap would die instantly to the 3,600 rads/second at the entrance of the vault
i guess they could've found a secret passage around? maybe? assuming little lamplight wasn't the only way
>What experimental conditions were Vault-Tec trying to test by locking up a bunch of people with a massive amount of extremely dangerous mutagenic virus? How to kill the fuck out of everything as fast as possible?
they could've been trying to test more super soldiers i guess, FEV were originally supposed to be for military use
>How and why does Vault-Tec even have any FEV at all? Did Bethesda honestly confuse West-Tek with Vault-Tec?
they did it so we could have an excuse to have super mutants
>How does Col Autumn get inside Vault 87?
bethesda writing
>Why is a GECK now a matter manipulation device and why is such a powerful tool being wasted on making a water purifier for water that shouldn't even be radioactive in the first place?
bethesda writing
>Why does your father design a purification machine that is capable of dumping all its radioactive filtrate into the control room as a "trap"? Was Dad a psychopath? How is the radiation trap even possible when the purifier is not even complete at that point and not active?
i don't think he designed it as a trap, i think he just sabotaged it so it ended up blowing up, the radiation dumping was a side effect
>Where did the Jet in FO3 come from? There is no manufacturing capability nor any semblance of Brahmin ranching, especially considering that D.C. is supposedly a lifeless wasteland with zero resources, food, or water for no real reason.
trade, maybe?
What mods are a must-have for NV?
>>317383791
Just kill another Khan and take their faction armor, Fiends will let you in since you say that you're there to sell drugs to Motor Runner or something
I'm about ready to finish up Fallout 4. There's so many things I wish had a mod available to fix, I don't like any of the factions and I'm siding with the Institute because who fucking cares.
I haven't finished the Grand Canyon and Lonesome Road dlc so I might go and do that before Xenoblade X is out.
>>317383372
You installed it alongside and with the Fallout script extender and mod manager right? Like how it says to do on Mod Nexus.
>>317382848
>>317382676
>>317382565
Thanks guys
>>317383039
>Where did the Jet in FO3 come from?
Through trade obviously. What you think that Jet is only present in the west, a drug that popular is going to be EVERYWHERE.
>>317380671
Even if you talk Ulysses out of his insanity you still have to make that choice.
>>317383723
>There's gun modding in New Vegas you fucking retard.
You can't mod unique guns, and with the modding system FO4 has every gun has to have like 50 of those dumb mods so you can't really add something like a Garand in the game without adding those dumb mods or it'll stick out like a sore thumb. Or you can I guess, but I'd rather mods went back to being significant changes, like increasing fire rate by 33% or something.
>Settlements is literally the one objectively good idea
Settlements is a dumb idea and I hate it, who the fuck plays Fallout as anything but a drifter anyways.
The objectively good idea of FO4 is making PA have a different set of animations so it can finally look good in 3D and not like a bad cosplay attempt.
>>317383880
Finished FO4, time to play some Fallout. Rollan.
>>317384098
>Settlements is a dumb idea and I hate it
You really are anti-fun. THe idea of developing settlements in Fallout games is as old as Fallout 2.
>>317383624
I'm gonna be honest, somehow I'm using shitty metal armour with a DT of 14. They kill me in like 6 seconds. Also, I haven't cleared out V34 yet because those armoured Ghouls take way too many hits with my current gear. (Shitty half broken Hunting Rifle, Ratslayer, 10mm Submachine Gun)
>>317383039
why does noone mind nick living in diamond city despite whole fucking synth scare?
why does institute keep wanting to destroy everything and everyone?
why does institude produce synths if they end up being so problematic for them?
why does railroad keep erasing synths and releasing them as humans if that is one of the main sources of synth prejudice?
what does bos want to achieve after defeating institute? they have no plans whatsoever
why does noone complain about nick, strong or curie going around prydwen or the anti-synth town?
how are synths different from normal robots if the only difference is the body as shown by curie-femcurie transition?
why do minutemen that want to be an american example use 100% communist economy inside the settlements?
why do gunmen, the biggest mercenary company around attack everyone on sight?
>>317384098
>not wanting to develop settlements in a post-apocalyptic setting
You have no idea whatfunis don't ya?
>>317383816
>What in the fuck is up with the Talon Company? Who in the fuck has enough resources and wealth in the D.C. hellhole waterless struggling wasteland to afford a clone army with unlimited resources? What is their purpose? How do they even work on a logistics basis?
bethesda writing
>Why does the East Coast use caps as currency? What are caps backed with?
irradiated water, i guess?
>>317379098
I hate him. He looks like a sperg and his VA contributes to that.
>>317384352
>why does noone mind nick living in diamond city despite whole fucking synth scare?
He explains his backstory if you have him as a companion for a while silly.
>>317384352
Nicks explains why he's allowed in Diamond City
>>317383880
Every thread
>>317384352
>why does noone mind nick living in diamond city despite whole fucking synth scare?
Because Nick isn't hiding that he's a synth, unlike the gen 3s who are COMPLETELY indistinguishable.
>>317384427
Good thing him and the Male courier share the same VA.
Why is DT gone in FO4? It makes power armor almost on the same level as the normal combat armors, aside from rad res
>>317378726
Anyone have a way to do this? It's really irritating me.
>>317384274
>You really are anti-fun.
Yes, I despise fun.
>THe idea of developing settlements in Fallout games is as old as Fallout 2.
Um, what? The idea is that settlements do develop, but you don't really participate in that - well, you do, but the results are at the ending slides and when you play the next game in the series. I mean, it would be really cool if you could see changes more immediately - when it makes sense, anyway - but just making one specific player settlement for that is lame.
>>317384331
DT14 should be okay, I guess? Also I cleaned V34 on Normal with a 10mm SMG that I found there (since ghouls drop 10mm ammo), That Gun which I almost had no ammo for, Cowboy Repeater and lots of drugs - MedX, Psycho, Turbo for the Overseer fight. Actually - have you tried using drugs in V3?
Also, if you're on okay terms with NCR you can get a really cool unique weapon in Camp McCarran for free, I can spoil you how.
>>317384693
Because it wasn't in 3, because bethesda doesn't like the idea
>>317377895
FO4 guns are so fucking bad... Even fallout 3 had way better ones
>>317384682
Courier is a sperg.
>>317378697
Yes, you get a shit ton of subways.
But it gets boring after awhile fighting super mutants, crab people, and ghouls looking at the same subway system.
I never really felt like I was in danger either.
I just shot and they died. Fallout 3 was easy past level 5. Hell, death claws I could bitch slap and anything that ran too fast for its own good got shot with a slingshot darts dipped in rad scorpion poison.
If you say Fallout 3 or NV was too hard, you are a total noob.
>>317380206
Why is Neogaf literally always wrong?
>>317384875
This is full fucking bull fucking shit. Fallout 4 has a LOT more weapons and customization and gunplay are fucking great, hell modding is even better than New Vegas.
>>317384053
East coast and west coast trading with each other is extremely difficult due to how fucked the center of the country is.
>>317384352
>why does noone mind nick living in diamond city despite whole fucking synth scare?
He talks about this if you befriend him, he saved the Mayors daughter and then did odd jobs around the city for ages.
>why does institute keep wanting to destroy everything and everyone?
>why does institude produce synths if they end up being so problematic for them?
legit criticism, the institute are actual RETARDS and can't do anything right after 200 fucking years.
>what does bos want to achieve after defeating institute? they have no plans whatsoever
i cba going on but yeah idk what their plans are, they seem to elude to having more plans but thye dont reveal them to you afaik.
>>317384757
No I mean people have been talking about hte idea of gameplay where you make your own little towns or run your life as a merchant in-game for fucking years and it's always been a backed thing. Hell, Tim Cain at one point even said he wanted to figure out how to push the idea in Fallout 1 as an alternate start to the Vault but didn't know how.
>>317380471
This is the sort of thing that makes me sympathize with people who go on killing sprees.
>>317385010
Bunch of fucking stupid wooden pipe guns, fuckoff
>>317378697
>someone actually made this picture
Jesus fuck, how much is bethesda paying you?
>>317383039
It's sad how FO3 turned out. Like, instead of a fresh look at how life on the other continent would have worked out, maybe with new enemies, new antagonists, Bethesda just puts a thumb in their ass and tries their hardest to rip every possible thing from the original Fallouts with zero thought put into it. BoS is cool, so they're here. Fucking Enclave is here too for some reason. Post-apocalyptic instead of post-post apocalyptic and people still live in shit towns. The difference between New Vegas infrastructure and the peasants in the Capital wasteland is staggering, its a wonder those retards survived. Oh, FO2 had a GECK and water as an objective so lets copy that too.
FO3 is so devoid of any original thought its disgusting. Most disappointing of all is that any and future fallouts will probably follow the bullshit formula of Vault Dweller -> Where's my family member? -> Literal God. And there'll be super mutants and BoS because why not. Fallout 5 will probably have Enclave waving their dicks around again. 3 games of rehashing shit that Fallout 1-2 brought to the table, fucking disappointing.
Just re-downloaded it yesterday
Mod suggestions? It's a pretty ugly game for one thing.
>>317382049
That's an awesome looking map.
>>317385010
>Fallout 4 has a LOT more weapons
No it doesn't, New Vegas has more, most of which isn't pipeshit
>>317384757
I haven't tried using any drugs, actually. I've always been afraid of the side effects.
I guess I'm just trash at this game, so what's the special NCR weapon?
>>317385013
Isn't the center like "Raiders Everywhere" or something?
>>317385260
A world of pain, NMC texture mod. Nothing else
>>317385341
The center is godawful, terrible city-wiping storms.
So basically the regular Midwest, but with more lightning.
>>317382415
Fallout New Vegas continues with Brotherhood (somewhat), Super Mutants (minor, just like Fallout 2, but had Marcus :D :D :D), and NCR, who actually had some meaning in Fallout 2.
So yeah, they are canon.
>>317379475
Wow you evil fucker. Just let him nuke the Legion who gives a shit about them.
>>317385414
Dogtown or whatever, Denver, would have been such a cool fucking area to explore. But, New Vegas resolved that area and wrote it off.
New Vegas felt dated even when it came out, now it's fuck ugly and feels clunky as hell. The barren desert setting is boring, empty, and lifeless. I honestly don't see how you could go back from FO4's super detailed, dense, varied world to...that
>>317385378
Thanks anon. I like minimalist modding for normal playthroughs. You know, like texture updates and maybe some different models.
>>317385341
center is practically uncrossable because there are no trade routes or vehicles + uncivilized tribes
legion had it contained well but canon is they lost
and even northern BOS is too far
>>317385010
>More weapons
No
>More customization
Yeah
>Better gunplay
yeah
>Better Modding
No
Console (PS3) fag here. I have the vanilla version, which of the dlcs are worth getting? Does the GOTY edition come with them on disk?
>>317385307
Im talking compared to 3 you turbonigger, and there's nothing wrong with pipeshit
Why does an Enclave deserter from the west coast flee to the heavily fortified Enclave stronghold of D.C. on the east coast while trying to avoid the Enclave because he fears for his life?
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/William_Brandice
How do these single entities keep crossing the entire US? Is there some teleporter set up somewhere we don't know about?
It took a lot of BoS personnel and airborne zeppelins and vertibirds to even attempt to cross the Midwest.
>>317385010
>spend 20 hours leveling for better weapons to start appearing
>they don't
>go on wiki to see that all weapons are variations of the basic ones
thanks bethesda
>>317378697
like clockwork
>>317385539
It wasn't really "resolved." All we know is the Legion gets its dogs there and it's not very healthy.
>>317385586
Do this...
Very hard
Hardcore
No armor only clothes
One companion at a time
No stimpaks for companion
If companion dies,stays dead
Doing this is why I have over 300 hours on PC version alone
>>317382756
>everything destroyed
>90% of buildings still up and straight walls everywhere
nice bombs bethesdrones lmao
>>317385671
>hell modding is even better than New Vegas.
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>>317385736
Then level up for better mods and stop being stupid. The game has way more guns than any previous game because basically every other mod makes every gun different in every way, even how they look.
>>317385653
Yeah the GOTY edition comes with all of the DLC, but honestly dude the PS3 version is so terrible, I don't even think it's worth playing.
>>317385260
Killable children
>>317385519
Actually the "good" option is deciding to stop the missile, since nukes are bad. It doesn't help that the quest in case you decide to nuke either faction(or both) is called "apocalypse".
>>317385000
I don't know but nice trips
I fucking hate Fallout4 pipe guns, there better be a gun runners of some sort with actual guns
>>317385049
>people have been talking about hte idea of gameplay where you make your own little towns or run your life as a merchant in-game for fucking years
Yes, and those people have no idea what the fuck Fallout is about and just want their own autistic sandbox post-apo Sims. Fucking TES fanbase.
>alternate start to the Vault
Alternate start, not alternate fucking destination. "You can save the land from mutants or you can, you know, just chill, build a shop, sell ammo and weapons, maybe one of the dudes you sell them to will stop the mutants, or maybe they're gonna take over, dip you and then you'll be a mutant trader in a happy Mutopia... until you all die of old age." Wow, great pitch here.
>>317385330
I'm playing with the trait that makes drugs give no addiction (and caps my level at 21), but every doctor can remove addictions, plus there's a drug called "Fixer" that does that too. Med-X gives you 25% DR, Psycho gives 25% damage boost and Buffout gives you some more HP.
The quest is activated by talking to Lt. Boyd in Camp McCarran (she's the one in charge of questioning that one centurion, which you can help her with). She'll tell you that she suspects Contreras has deals on side. You can hack into this computer (needs Science 50) or talk to him and ask for a job. Afterwards, you can actually try to do the jobs he gives you, or just turn him in immediately and get a sweet gun. The only problem is that he's actually a really good merchant who sells tons of .308, 5.56 and 5mm ammo. But if you roleplay as a pro-NCR character it's an easier decision.
>>317385586
If you want really minimalist, I've got a fun challenge for you. Just grab ST Robot Race for a mod. It's challenging itself because the healing items you need in that are weaker typically but have more "abundance" in the sense you can make them out of cheap parts to heal small amounts. Your Stimpak equivalents are insanely rare.
Hardcore
Very Hard
Clothes only (Whatever looks coolest, if it's armor, go into the GECK and make a version with no DT)
No companions
Two guns at a time
You will fuck yourself up hard.
>>317385621
Not really more customization. Instead of options you have a linear progression along two lines of Automatic/Semi-Auto and then everything else its almost always better to have the option on the bottom. Suppressors are somehow the god item so eventually each one of your guns will have one, ever the Gauss Rifle has a suppressor.
>>317385220
Synths were an interesting concept but the ball was dropped hard. Institute, much like the rest of the Capital Wasteland, are incapable of doing anything right until the VAULT DWELLER comes along and fixes everything in 3 months.
>>317385653
All of the NV dlc is great and worth playing, but if you can get it for PC (doesn't require much to run) then avoid playing console versions like the plague.
>>317386040
Arturo sells some guns
>>317386058
Having just one companion makes game alot better so long as it isn't OP Boone
So how many main endings does FO4 have? 3 has 2 and NV has 4.
>>317386196
Shit type ones
>>317386236
Fuck that. You're a robot. Everyone thinks the robot doesn't have any actual brainpower. They wouldn't align themselves with a tin can.
>>317385220
>FO3 is so devoid of any original thought its disgusting.
That isn't a cynical thing to think. Bethesda doesn't value creativity as far as writing goes. They're content to reuse existing ideas without building on them in any meaningful way. That's extremely disappointing to me because part of what made New Vegas come alive so much was how good the writing was most of the time. Save for Ulysses's emo tirades in LR, the Mojave feels authentic and interesting compared to the lifeless and sterile Capital Wasteland.
Obsidian gave us memorable characters like Joshua Graham and Randall Clark because they actually give a shit about writing. What has Bethesda churned out that has artistic merit?
>>317386236
How is boone OP?
>>317386372
That hunting rifle destroys anything in his path, let's not forget how little fucks he gives too
>>317386372
>can two hit legendary deathclaws and one hit pretty much everything else before you even see them
>>317386372
>Get 10 CHR
>Get Boone and that Robodog
>Game suddenly play by itself
>>317385903
>literally the same gun except shoots faster or does more damage
>different in every way
kill yourself shill
>>317386358
>What has Bethesda churned out that has artistic merit?
Morrowind. Parts of Oblivion, like Shivering Isles.
>>317386372
While >>317386471 and >>317386492 are exaggerating, Boone's main thing is he can automatically hit anything within your compass that comes up red. Combine ED-E and you can just sit pretty as he kills everything because ED-E's perk allows for Boone to see everything.
Will Obsidian be making their version of Fallout4? Like New vegas
>>317386671
Not to mention he prioritizes headshots much more so than other companions, making him even deadlier by default.
>>317386731
They're busy with other projects, likea Vampire Bloodlines sequel.
>>317386731
I hope not, most of the New Vegas team doesn't even work there anymore.
Also they would no doubt have to use the Bethesda base which means voiced protag and dialogwheels and shit so it's propably better if they spend the time on something that actually has a chance to be decent.
>>317386867
>Obsidian developing anything on their own
yeah, no.
>>317386731
What are the MUST HAVE mods for NV? Last realism mod I tried, it made enemies even more spongy.
Why is the nuke in Megaton a fatman style nuke when it was clearly nuclear ICBMs that were used during the Great War?
Did China manage to fly a bomber all the way across the US to drop a single antique bomb that didn't even explode but still produced a fucking gigantic crater?
>>317377895
Why are new vegas kiddies on /v/ the easiest to trigger? Fallout 3 is probably like a 6/10. New Vegas about a 7.5/10. Meh games tbfh family.
>>317386731
Obsidian is dead, I dont understand how most people here havent realized it.
Fucking half the company left. And most importantly Avellone left. They're fucking dead
>>317382716
elaborate?
>>317385782
they moved in and wiped the area out.
WHY DOES BETHESDA THINK THAT FEV IN HUMANS AUTOMATICALLY MEANS SUPERMUTANTS
>>317387091
>meh games
They're not "meh games" there is nothing like open world beth games, its an untapped market.
>>317387047
>Did China manage to fly a bomber all the way across the US to drop a single antique bomb that didn't even explode but still produced a fucking gigantic crater?
Yes
>>317377895
Fuck this shitposting thread , post screenshots
>>317377895
Played Fallout 4, did Railroad shit, and now i´m back to Vegas. There is no replayabilty in Fallout 4.
>>317387210
so what? Just cause something is different doesn't mean it is good. Nice argument kiddo.
>>317387316
>Cinematic black bars
Have you made sure to cap your fps at 30 too?
>>317387248
Funnily enough, even then, New Vegas has a sewer system that has more depth than the metros in FO3.
>using companions in combat
>allowing them to use their infinite ammo weapon
tiptopkek
how plebian must you be senpai? I roleplay and leave them to guard my retreat, or to carry and protect goods as if I had a camp. Rarely do I drag them down exploring areas.
>>317387415
They're also the best selling RPGS of all time, they're considered good by everyone and their mum, but feel free to be ever the contrarian.
>>317387529
ofc famerino kekerino why wouldn´t i limit myself?
>>317387737
feel free to be a casual. kiddo.
>>317382371
kek
>>317387812
What does a patrician like you consider good games?
>>317382371
but rpg's are the plebest genre. Pleb.
>>317387047
It was mentioned that the bomb WAS from a downed bomber plane. And the town was made from scraping said plane.
>>317382371
>featuring everything from the brotherhood of steel 2
Fallout New Vegas is a "pure" RPG with partial FPS/TPS gameplay, and favours the use of VATS and stat modifiers, it's closer to a tabletop RPG than a conventional videogame RPG; thus, having a more varied and deep setting with quests that put more weight into intelliegent or moral choices serves the purpose of it leaning more to its RPG side.
Fallout 3 is an FPS/TPS with partial roguelike elements, and favors the use of non-VATS combat with a more minimalistic gunplay in order to pump more action than social interactions, and the quests put you in more dangerous situations that require reflexes and/or little to no planning ahead (i.e. having to enter a minefield while a sniper is shooting at you), thus serving its purpose as an action game first, and a roguelike rpg second.
They're both good game in their own regards, and comparing them and hailing NV as better or worse than FO3 is pointless because their bases and approaches are vastly different despite their basic similarities.
Prove me wrong.
Protip:You can't.
>>317387737
>it's popular so it must be good!
Your mum is one of the best selling too but I wouldn't call her the best t.b.h.
>>317388062
>roguelike
what the actual fug
>>317387912
I rather enjoy innovative and immersive expiriences such as the last of us.
>>317388062
>partial roguelike elements
>>317388062
>I dont know what im talking about: The post: The book :The Movie : The videogame: The shilling : The dank meme.
Literally kill youreself
>>317377895
Not me. I sucked NV dry. Fallout 4 isn't all that amazing, but I can't play NV anymore. I'm tapped out.
>>317388070
Yes, how a game sells is generally a very good indication of the quality.
>>317388174
That's a very casual game though, I thought you were above that?
>>317388124
>>317388224
whoops meant dungeon crawler, not roguelike
>>317388062
>partial roguelike elements
Fucking stupid
>thinking the gunplay is anything worth existing
Go play some real FPS negro. Then play mothership zeta and see how big of a piece of shit Fallout 3 is.
>no Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver mod for FNV'
the only revolver I like and it's not in anything
>>317387143
West-tek was a government defense contractor on the west coast. They are the ones who developed FEV, it was initially part of a project to develop immunity to all the biological weapons that China was intent on using. After initial experiments showed increased muscle mass, size, and intelligence in animal subjects they renamed it FEV. The project was then moved from the West-tek facilities at The Glow to Mariposa to begin conducting human experiments. The personnel at Mariposa mutinied over this, killing the scientists and stopping the experiments. The military at Mariposa would eventually go on to form the BoS.
Vault-tec has absolutely nothing to do with any of this, so it is extremely bizarre for their to be a vault full of extremely dangerous FEV for no discernable reason on the complete opposite coast of where it was developed and tested in the first place. Not to mention that the revolt at Mariposa occured almost immediately before the Great War kicked off.
Unlike what Bethesda thinks, FEV isn't something you can just cook up with a home chemistry lab. Such as Dr. Lesko using FEV in his fire ant experiments in FO3. Likewise, this is fucking retarded and makes zero sense.
Is there anything I need to know before playing the Ulimate Edition on PS3 for the first time?I can't play it on pc
>>317388430
i'm not saying it's good gunplay i'm just saying it has more weight put on gunplay than the rest of the gameplay elements
>>317388062
>use of non-VATS combat with a more minimalistic gunplay
How would minimalistic gunplay encourage you to not use VATS
What the fuck does minimalistic gunplay even mean
>>317388427
>fallout fucking 3
>dungeon crawler
>>317377895
I did. Even got Steam to refund 4 for me.
>>317388545
There technically is one in the sense the one from Bioshock is a mod.
>>317388343
>Yes, how a game sells is generally a very good indication of the quality.
>I literally don't know anything about economics and business, please rape my face
Selling products its not about quality you fucking moron, it's about the perfect quality/consumer satisfaction ratio. The lower the quality and the higher the satisfaction the better.
Most of todays Beth audience are dudebro console gamurs who didn't even play the first two, their standards are pretty fucking low. Do the math.
>>317388590
It's awful. And the game forgets it's an rpg and tries to be a shit shooter. I hate fallout 3 so much.
>>317388062
>Fallout 3
>Favor the use of non-VATS
Fallout 3 made it almost impossible to hit enemies that weren't in your face unless you used VATS.
>>317388343
>Casual game
kek kiddo keep playing your ugly looking 6/10 failouts. Meanwhile i ll enjoy truly my gorgeous immersive storytelling and polished, responsive real-time gameplay with well adjusted learning curves
>>317388082
thanks dude
>>317388671
>implying it's not
Not that Anon but I sure loved all those RPG elements while exploring that metro system.
>>317389029
You've never played a dungeon crawler.
>>317388843
and how do you measure a product if not by the satisfaction of the customer?
fucking moron
>>317388062
>They're both good game in their own regards
You contradict yourself. It is true that FNV puts more emphasis on its RPG elements, and FO3 puts more emphasis on "fucking shit up", to quote FO4 protagonist. The thing is that, firstly, FNV RPG elements are actually very good - not many RPGs offer you this kind of freedom and choices. FO3 combat is not very well done, and it's not even as good as FNV combat. Add here the problem that older FO games were closer to Vegas, and you have enough reasons why lots of people think 3 was a bad entry.
>>317388809
It's Webley Mk. VI, still a cool gun though.
>>317383880
I'm not done with FO4 yet and I have other NV characters I still want to get to, but I can't resist doing these.
>>317382029
someone needs to make a fallout 4 version
>>317389145
exactly.
Nv is a great rpg, 3 is a bad fps.
>>317378697
You're not fooling anyone le baitsman.
>>317389139
By the quality?
Satisfaction of the customer is subjective to every customer, quality is objective. I enjoy many shit quality games but I realize they are shit, and Fallout 3 is certainly shit made purely with money in mind.
>>317382437
>retard thinks putting 9000 shacks with the exact dilapidated interior is 'Filling'
Fucking New vegas kiddies are retarded
Didn't drop Fo4 for NV. I'm playing NV untill they patch the buggy unoptimized shitpile that is Fo4, or even waiting for ALL THE DLC: BUY ME AGAIN GOY edition.
With that in mind, what faction should I join for the end game? I've tagged Energy weapons, Science, and speech while going with an odd personal rule set. No companions, and no in combat healing. Probably won't be pumping sneak over 25 either.
I confess I've never reached the end of the game before. I usually get lost in endless side quests and exploration for decades till i get tired of the build I'm on and reroll. I'm determined to get to the end for once, but I need a faction to join.
>>317389345
>quality games
>quality not being subjective when it comes to games/movies
lmao
>>317389397
>retard thinks an MC Escher-esque mess of a metro system that looks nothing like the actual DC subway system and two whole towns is 'filling'
Fucking Fallout 3 kiddies are retarded
>>317380471
This is real.
>>317382437
FNV was empty as fuck lets not kid ourselves here
>>317389501
>he values quantity over quality
baka tBh fAM
>>317389492
Quality is objective. Your tastes are not.
Look, pic related is fucking dogshit, but I still like it.
>>317389685
>he values quantity over quality
But I'm not the one defending Fallout 3.
What does 4GB New Vegas actually do?
Why didn't Obsidian just use the Shi instead of Caesar's Legion
>>317387529
you can turn it off in game
>>317389747
How is quality "objective" when it comes to videogames?
What are you being "objective" about when you decide whether its good or not
>>317389819
Shi are a shittyfaction. The whole of SF was rushed and badly made.
>>317389817
It basically allows the game to handle larger shit like a combined Freeside or the full Strip that's not separated by doors. It's als ogood for mods like that one motorcycle mod where you can go faster than the regular game can load.
>>317389819
Because the Shi weren't even bad, Elitists who tricked there people into thinking a computer was some kind of God Emperor, yes
People who slave people and rape andmurder just for fun, no.
>>317389771
Stop the one upsmanship you stupid imbecile. FO NV is dogshit and you know it. If you want to to talk, start expounding your opinions instead of typing 1 line replies like a fucking retard.
>>317390082
Even though you've been doing that since your first post, you baiting retard.
>>317390021
Why does there need to be a specific bad guy
>>317382638
You can, just tell them to beat back the Legion.
With House, your goal isn't to kill the NCR, you need their patronage.
>>317388062
Say what you want, Fo3 makes a bigger impression on you and sticks in memory unlike NV.
>>317390312
>Fo3 makes a bigger impression on you and sticks in memory
Too bad the impression isn't a positive one.
>>317390204
Because you need actual conflict where one group appears to be more morally "grounded" on the exterior but on the interior is much more questionable, and another is more outwardly fucked up but internally is much less fucked up.
The NCR is pretty earnest on the front-lines, but it's obvious they're spread thin and the upper brass don't really care about them. The Legion, on the other hand, are rapists, slavers, and generally lunatics on teh front lines but it's been implied before that within their actual borders, they're much less fucking insane.
>>317390312
>Say what you want, Fo3 makes a bigger impression on you and sticks in memory unlike NV.
So fucking wrong I want to rip my hair out.
>>317390204
It's not that they need to be bad guys, it's just that there's no gray area with them, whatever they're doing is helping people, San Fransisco even starts blooming Cherry Blossom trees because of them
>>317390119
And you still continue. Braindead obsidiandrone. Go enjoy your 30 'HURRR XYZ SHACK' and 40 'DURR XYZ SAFEHOUSE' cluttered around the map offering no stimulation nor fun.
>>317390312
The only things that stuck out to me were a town of people chilling around a nuke that could potentially set off and Fawkes who was the closest there was to the classic Super Mutants.
In New Vegas, I had a lot more strong impressions throughout playing it.
Alright clarify me this, I'm doing a Perfect Good Run and I just did the Crimson Caravan quest and robbed the Gun Runner's Holotape since I'm trying to get the ending where both Mclafferty and Gloria get killed. I previously killed the guards before doing this quest and it acts like I killed them during this quest. Does this mean I'll still get that ending slide?
Who do you guys help on your independent runs? Boomers?
>>317390382
>but it's been implied before that within their actual borders, they're much less fucking insane.
No. The Legion controlled areas are just lacking crime because fear of the Legion is so fucking palpable.
If only...
>>317390457
Didn't you say something about typing one line replies like a retard?
>>317389908
>What are you being "objective" about
About how well done it is.
Fallout 3 is not well done. It really lacks in writining, story, gameplay, optimization, logic, rpg elements, pretty much everything except for exploration.
It's a shit RPG, it's a shit FPS, the only thing it's good at is being an open world sandbox. Overall it's pretty shit, doesn't mean it doesn't have any redeeming qualities that you can personally enjoy.
>>317390447
Well the end of the game says they oppose the NCR
>>317390590
>minor legion characters came across as far more overtly misogynistic than I intended them too
Bull fucking shit. That's part of their whole identity. He's just backpedaling because some SJW's probably got rustled.
>>317390603
Just getting on your level of discourse
>>317380206
>CIA supports Bethesda's fuckery of the series
Smfh
>>317390865
Nah, it really was almost cartoony in places.
>>317390865
He said overtly. Rome was a misogynistic society, and the Legion moreso, but at some points it's just straight up mustache-twirling villain standing next to a girl tied to a train track cartoony. It'd be nice to have more Legion characters who weren't in some way extremely edgy.
>>317390865
No, you retard. He's saying that he'd make the Legion make some sense instead of being edgy retards that just enslave women and have them work as prostitutes for no reason. Legion is literally the most retarded faction in FNV and no one likes them.
guys please help me
I'm dying from wanting to play New Vegas but I have yet to reinstall it on my new PC. I have to relearn how load order, mod organizer, compatibility patches, merged patches, esp cleaning and all that jazz work, which means hours on text guides and overly long Gopher videos. Then I have to install CCO which means I have to tinker even more with console commands to check how to fix my stats after I install it, and then navigate through CCO's giant ass pdf about compatiblity shit Then I have to install graphic mods, which is a pain in MO because there are tons of warnings about possible texture overwrites that just send me crazy.
I just wanna fucking play, I even bought Borderlands 2 thinking it would fill my void about questan' and stat risan' on the frontier but it's just a placebo.
/v/, give me the strength to actually lift my lazy ass!
>>317378697
Why do people always forget that New Vegas isn't just the strip and most of the area is devoted to the slums.
In fact most of the populated areas in the North end of the map are the New Vegas area, the strip isn't the only part of it.
>>317390762
I doubt they'd hate them enough to follow them all the way to Nevada
>>317391036
Yeah, except this isn't Rome you fucking retard, it's an extremely narcissistic man with a god-complex's twisted version of Rome.
>>317391037
Nah.
>>317391096
Just use NMM and avoid using clusterfuck mods that clash. By this point, most of the mods are designed to more easily align with each other and NMM can manage load orders pretty well. The only immediate issue I've seen with the load orders on it is their actual numbe risn't always accurate - like 30 may actually be 29.
Also, don't forget to properly install NVSE.
>>317391037
>that just enslave women and have them work as prostitutes for no reason
But that actually makes sense. Legion needs really high birth rates to sustain itself.
>>317391127
Coming from someone who loves NV I think the strip is BY FAR the most boring and annoying area in the game. I just want to be there for as little time as possible every time I play.
>>317390487
If meme characters spouting meme lines are your thing, then yes, NV made a better impression.
Youre the kind person who probably types shit like "PROFILGATES" and inane lines like that in FO threads thinking they are humourous or amusing.
>>317391245
And god forbid we have characters that are not literally edgier versions of said narcissistic man with a god-complex populating the place. I can't think of ONE Legion character that didn't speak in some angry, harsh growl while talking shit about something other than Vulpes - and Vulpes was a whole other level of edge.
>>317382617
By that same logic, shitout 3 would have never been made with out based god Interplay.
>go to /vg/ fallout general
>op info only has fo4 shit
uh
anyone got a pastebin or something for new vegas
>>317391096
What? I just threw in 50 mods in NMM and it worked. There was one error on a missing esm and that's it.
Just make sure it launches first and then 4GB patch to NVSE then pile up other mods.
Never done any esp cleaning or merged patches stuff. Seems like a pain in the ass.
>>317391356
>If meme characters spouting meme lines are your thing, then yes, NV made a better impression.
Not really. I was talking about more shit like watching the rockets fly off from REPCONN, the first time I actually wiped out Cottonwood and how it was basically a wave-after-wave gauntlet of Legionnaires, the first time watching the Securitrons all turn on, the first time I realized why exactly there wasn't any people in that little beach across the river from Cottonwood, shit like that.
I think you're just getting mad to get mad.
>>317391373
>And god forbid we have characters that are not literally edgier versions of said narcissistic man with a god-complex populating the place. I can't think of ONE Legion character that didn't speak in some angry, harsh growl while talking shit about something other than Vulpes - and Vulpes was a whole other level of edge.
Why would there be people like that? Most of the Legion people you see are soldiers who are literally brainwashed to have these outlooks or they're discarded. Also there already is a character like that, Joshua Graham.
>>317390910
>the game has more quests aka content, here's a list as proof
>BUT THE MAP IS EMPTY, NO NEED FOR PROOF, JUST BELIEVE ME
>that's not true, here's a map comparison as proof
>W-WELL MOST OF THE LOCATIONS ARE UNINTERESTING, JUST TRUST ME
>but FO3 also had uninteresting locations, with most of them being metro entrances
>HURR FAMTBHSMMH QUALITY OVER QUANTIYTIIKAB
You're living proof to the fact that Bethesdrones are in their majority children.
>Buy FO """""NEW VEGAS""""""
>expect it to be some glitzy, glamourous oasis in the middle of the wastelands
>Its the most boring and worst written part of the game
>>317391613
One character in a DLC doesn't make up for the main problem of "There isn't even ONE person on the Legion side who isn't some edgy sociopath." This is due to the fact there's so few Legion-heavy areas, if we got the full game we WOULD have gotten to see some of Arizona and actually get to see the less batshit side of the Legion.
>>317391710
>he doesn't drop everything and bet everything in the casinos while getting involved in their drama and fucking prostitutes before sleeping in your customizable presidential suite
>>317377895
NV is shit. No I don't mean NV iz da shit, i really mean NV is a shitty game.
>horrible and dull map
>boring story
>boring factions
>cartoony as fuck
>fuck Freecity and the constant loading screens
>everything looks the same
>kek animations for a game that came out in 2010 (no excuse, and this wasn't even Bethesda developing it), I mean CMON IT WAS 2010 !
>still using shitty FaceGen like Bethesda
>Boring and redundant bullet making system
I dislike Bethesda and I never liked them, Oblivion (which has the same engine as F3) made me dislike the company but at least Fallout 3 was enjoyable.
>IMB4 muh real fullout 1/2 team made NV
Even the original games suck if it isn't for the nostagia factor.
>But muh RPG factor anoon !
Go play a real RPG like VTM
>>317391613
Joshua Graham isn't even in the legion anymore
>>317391373
The only bits of the Legion we actually see are the front lines were the fighting is hardest and their goal is western expansion and either forceful assimilation or extermination of everyone they come across.
It's assumed that they're more civilized back in Legion territory but complaining about the Legion being edgy in NV is like complaining about modern font line military grunts being edgy.
>>317392127
No shit, but judging by his characterization he wasn't a typical member of the Legion even when he was.
>>317392141
>is like complaining about modern font line military grunts being edgy
But those guys aren't as edgy as the Legion. Most of them just fuck around, get drunk, and do what they can to keep themselves entertained.
The Legion is full of people who mostly grumble about degenerates and enemies of Caesar.
>>317392096
>cartoony
>>317391703
>quests
>go to any camp/major area
>find my missing pistol/object w/e
>find ingrediants
>find ammo
>find other shit
>Talk to some random guy and get a speech check
These are 50 % of the missions in NV.
>areas
As I said there are like 7-8 safehouses
More 10 shacks with the exact copy/pasted interior
10 Locations like houses/camps/gas stations which offer nothing interesting.
Roaming around in NV is extremely wreary and dull.
Most of the locations in NV are just designed and placed for a filler effect, just look at clark field.
>cool broken down plant
>irradiated
>Oh boy this will be cool
>nothing interesting on exploring location
>crescent canyon
>nothing apart from a wreckage
>cap counterfeiting shack
>nothing
Just off the top of my head.
>>317391253
>>317391540
>NMM
isn't MO better in every way? You can link it to your Nexus account so downloaded mods are in the right folder already, and by keeping everything outside the vanilla folder you keep your files clean. Plus there are profiles so you can switch freely between "regular New Vegas with mods" to "post-apocalyptic simulator with RUST and weapon mods" without hurting your head too much
I didn't like Come Fly With Me. It feels like a Fallout 3 quest with more freedom and a bit better writing. It's wacky, it has an insane cult which "just happened" because insane cults are so post-apo, it does have choices but they sometimes make little sense - so you can help the ghoul in the basement but you can't ask him to look the location of Stealth Boys and he'll shoot you if you come close even if you are his only hope of leaving this mess. It doesn't really tie in the big political game, too. Also the quest relies heavily on AWESOME FLYING ROCKETS scene in the ending. It doesn't help that this quest was featured in some preview of FNV and I really though Obsidian fucked it up and FNV is going to be as much of stupid thme park s 3 was. Never was happier to be wrong.
>>317383880
rollidoto
>>317392893
NMM got profiles literally two updates ago, actually.
>>317392675
>Roaming around in NV is extremely wreary and dull.
Yeah, it really felt like I was playing a post-apocalyptic game at times.
>>317391885
>betting in new vegas of all games
Theres no crowds of people, no unique music, no responses, no crowd reactions. Its DULL AS FUCK.
>fucking prostitutes
Terrible.
>customization
varies from person to person.
The strip was objectively the worst part of the game.
>>317392981
It's also tedious as fuck and half of it is a really boring fetch quest. While the writing of quests can be good in NV the execution is usually pretty piss poor.
>>317392981
>It's wacky, it has an insane cult which "just happened" because insane cults are so post-apo
Honestly, it's more because every Fallout game has at least one cult.
>>317392675
>quests
That luck old sun
Beyond the beef
Birds of a feather
Bye bye love
I put a spell on you
One for my baby
The coyotes
The white wash
There stands the grass
Hard luck blues
>>317393179
I actually really like NV as a whole though, I just didn't like this particular quest. Wrt fetch quest part - the fact you can buy those stupid rocket souvenirs for that isotope whatever instead of gathering it in a regular way was actually really funny.
>>317393314
Well, Children of the Cathedral were cool and relevant at least.
>>317393179
You can say that about anything, pretty much all quests in games boil down to either
>get X
>kill X
>talk to X
>save X
>>317393083
post apocalyptic world =/= dull or boring
FO3 did it totally right.
>>317393361
The REPCONN cult was... kinda? relevant. Every other person in Novac mentions it.
>>317382049
Holy fuck that really is a small playable area compared to the total area displayed. Couldn't they have just zoomed the map in a bit so there weren't giant sections of pointless map data, especially to the west?
>>317393424
How exactly, every other location is
>tunnel entrance
>abandoned shack
>abandoned radio station
>abandoned satellite dish
>abandoned gas station
>>317386345
Apparently either 4 or 8.
>>317377895
Does fallout 4 have any quests that are more than two steps besides the main one? pls help I'm losing interest
>>317390516
Can anyone at least tell me when the Gun Runner Guards respawn? I'm not feeling like replaying the entire game again cause I fucked up this portion
u kno it
>>317386345
There's a joke ending in the beginning if you stick around too much and get nuked before you go into the Vault.4 endings otherwise.
Side with BoS: Kill Institute and Railroad
Side with Railroad: Kill Institute and BoS
Side with Institute: Kill BoS and Railroad
Side with Minutemen: Kill all three other factions
Ending dialogue doesn't change unless you side with the Institute where the Mc is just like 'lost muh son again'.
I GOT SPURS
THAT JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
(Jingle Jangle!)
fmmfh smdm... mfmsg hm fm fm GLAD YOU'RE SINGLE
(Single Sangle!)
>>317393340
>That luck old sun
The only thing amusing is mr fantastic
>Beyond the beef
Nice mission
>Birds of a feather
???
>Bye bye love
literally cuc.k : the mission
>I put a spell on you
Nice mission
>One for my baby
Nice mission
>The coyotes
Nice mission
>The white wash
?????
>There stands the grass
decent.
>Hard luck blues
????
None of the missions really stand out.
>>317393370
I'd say the pacing is pretty important here though if you start noticing the pattern. Doesn't help if the quest giver is in a deep location that you need to keep returning to. BoS quests in NV were particularly offensive. Go out find 3 things and come back, repeat.
>>317392981
They are bug fuck crazy ghouls, which is pretty common. They are also suicidal because there is no fucking way they would get anywhere in one piece on those rockets.
I can't remember if they were trying to go to China or into space, but either way they would never make it.
>>317393370
The difference is that, for all it's huge fuck ups in other regards, FO3 and Oblivion at least tried to mask the fact that you were going on shitty fetch quests sometimes. That quest where you get trapped on murder island in Oblivion is just a kill quest when you get down to it. Same thing for the quest in FO3 where you kill the ghoul bigots and then realize halfway through that something isn't quite right. Maybe it's just because NV had so many more quests, but it felt like most of them were explicitly "go here, kill this person, grab this thing, bring it back to me" with no interesting narrative presentation to make them feel like anything but fetch quests.
Unfortunately, Beyond the Beef isn't a good representation of average quest quality in NV.
>basically same gameplay as fallout 3
>it's good because the story is better :))))
It's still a bethesda gamebryo engine, how can you people even play this shit?
>>317383880
Idk Lol I Play On Console.
>>317382175
>literally everything about F3 is undefendable shit
>b-but muh mup!
Enjoy your immersive skeletontelling, bethkek.
>mfw when I realized how few quests, weapons, and armor/clothing fallout 4 has
seriously how come I don't see people complaining about this?
4 has almost nothing
>>317393983
>The only thing amusing is mr fantastic
The giant sun cannon from space didn't amuse you in the slightest?
>literally cuc.k : the mission
You what m8? That implies that Joana willingly fucked other guys, and you get them back together at the end
>>317393931Oh, there's also a variation of the Minutemen ending where you can get them to team up with the Railroad and either take down the BoS, the Institute or both.
>>317393983
>>That luck old sun
>The only thing amusing is mr fantastic
are you trying to imply that frying the NCR with the power of the sun and seeing the legion move in and mr fantastic wear legion gear isn't amusing?
>>317394067
You think that there was no presentation or background to quests in NV but there was in F3? What are you smoking?
>>317394242
>how come
If you use the word "Why" rather than using "how come," you'll sound less like a mouthbreather.
>its the 50's but its 200 YEARS IN THE FUTURE and ATOMIC BOBM HOLY SHIT!!!!! WASTE LAND
fallout should have ended at 1
>>317394456
nice deflecting, bethkek
>>317377895
I can only play fallout 3d games if they have a hardcore mod like Arwens'. I hope he makes another one for Fallout 4 or I will never play it
>>317394194
i know your post is bait but a game can be good if it hooks you despite its flaws and you end up cherishing it later on
i've been fighting against some CTDs lately because i fucked something up but i keep playing because i wanna know what happens and i'm enjoying it despite the bad engine, and the fact that i kept trying to fix it instead of throwing it out the window at the second CTD means it's a good game in my book
but that's like, my opinion my dude
a better question is why you go into the internet and try to interrogate people you don't know on purely subjective things and somehow expect to illuminate them with your superior taste or some shit
>>317394242
because gameplay is fun
And they added some pretty cool things. Feel more like a game and less clunky than the other 2 fallouts.
I noticed it after a while too
Just fucking pipe guns and all the clothing/armor is boring
I feel like one foot went in the right direction and the other foot went backwards for this game.
Just wait for some dlc + mods
Or the next fallout
>>317385586
Remove the cowboy repeater butterfly sight
Makes the gun one of the best in the game
>>317377895
Me. Reinstalled it, back to a new, now Level 4 character.
>>317386345
>NV has 4.
there's like 30 different things that influence your ending so I doubt there's only 4.
>>317382049
One of my biggest problems with NV was the huge swathes of empty land in the map. Particularly the western edge.
Cut content?
>>317385260
>Mod suggestions?
That one mod that adds a giant underground connected cave system that basically spans the entire map. Holy fuck, if you ever see some FO3 autismo talk about 'atmosphere', direct them to this mod.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38719/?
Combine it with some combat enhancing mods for extra effect.
>>317394573
I'm just really confused about why people became so vocal about New Vegas all of a sudden.
It's better than Fallout 3, but it's still fundamentally flawed and on a shit engine with shit ai, shit movement, shit physics, shit ... everything except writing basically, so I'm really surprised people grew to love it so much.
I'm playing through Fallout 3 now since I never got around to it, and I have to say it's probably the worst game I've ever played as far as gameplay is concerned, and I'd rather just replay Fallout 2 again instead of New Vegas if I feel like playing an actually good fallout game.
God I wish Bethesda weren't so awful at making video games.Morrowind is my favorite game, and when I see it called "Fallout 3/NV" except with a fresh coat of paint and a worse interface, I get really upset, not gonna lie
>>317381324
I tried my damndest to do that mission while only killing when it was necessary. I really did.
The end result was pretty spectacular. A whole room full of dead people, Mortimer sitting in the middle of it, not giving a single flying fuck that everyone around him was a chopped-up carcass.
Then he got beaned in the head with a cane.
Then Marjorie had to die too because she was a witness and we can't have those.
I'm surprised that I haven't been banned from the Luxe. It's not like I was being subtle about things by the end of the quest.
>>317395042
I think he means that there's 4 distinct primary quest paths.
>>317395218
>Cut content?
Like 95% of the Legion content got cut, which is why you are introduced to it at the start of the game (nipton) and then never have to deal with any legion bullshit again untill you decide to visit their camp.
I'm positive that if they had more time to develop the faction, it wouldn't have come across as some 'hehe, slavery and submission! xD'.
>>317395359
if you mean RIGHT NOW, the main two reasons being "I played Fallout 4 and I didn't like it, which gives me the idea to replay New Vegas, which i did like" and "All this fallout 4 reminded me that new vegas exists, i should revisit it"
I'd personally love to play fo4 despite all the negative reviews i've seen and how dumbed down it appears to be but the PC i have right now wouldn't handle it and my own PC is really far awayMorrowind is the best TES game in my opinion but it hasn't aged well at all
>>317391885
Even if you do that, Vegas feels so underwhelming that you have to wonder why you should give a single fuck about this shitty little pile of rubble. I mean, Vegas is just one flashy entertainment district within a small slum surrounded by tons of uninhabited ruins.
I would've preferred it if the map was the same size but smaller in scale, with Vegas being a much larger, less sparse and barren portion so that it felt like an actual city.
>>317395684
>nipton
Funny thing is, I always go to the Strip immediately; it's easy if you know the route. I don't know why people think it's hard to go there at the start of the game.
>>317396031
>I don't know why people think it's hard to go there at the start of the game.
Probably because the route is plastered with either cazadores or deathclaws and unless you already know the game, you're going to take the obvious route of not fucking with all of that.
I usually play the game the 'regular' way untill i've gained enough caps to buy the luck implant at which point i'll beeline over to the clinic and start the minmaxing adventure.
I finished hh and owb, started dm today and I'm about to drop the game. I'm not really interestedin all the lore and the gameplay mechanics don't feel rewarding enough (i do like "breaking" games within their own limits to get overpowered). I'm level 31 with 50 hours clocked.
What do?
>Guy who was 11 when F03 came out
>Bethesda "Single-handedly" made Fallout good
>>317396280
New quest mods, I guess.
Is project Brazil worth playing
>>317396280
>I'm not really interestedin all the lore and the gameplay mechanics don't feel rewarding enough
Half the point of FNV is piecing together all the bits of information regarding mini-events all across the mojave. From people dealing with their own troubles to NPCs referencing big events. Why even play an RPG if you're not going to want to immerse yourself.
The other half of the game is precisely abusing the rpg elements and becoming hilariously powerful to the point where you end up punching deathclaws in the face.
>>317377895
Aye.
>>317389990
>motorcycle mod
Link?
What's the quickest way I can raise my luck?
>>317397016
It's very... it's definitely a product of Gamebryo, but for what it is, it's a very fun, satisfying mod.
It also has a "booster" upgrade that's hilarious.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40645/?
>>317397092
Intense Training perks when you level up. Or the implant, if you've got the caps.
>>317396717
>punching deathclaws in the face.
This is literally all I want.
I've got 100 unarmed right now.
I wanna box the death chameleons and win.
>>317397272
Thanks friend.
>>317397016
>>317397272
it's somewhat good but it crashes every small slope on the ground (and stops you) and the sound is pretty bad, it's a very small loop
then again it's the best you can expect out of gamebryo
>>317396274
I've never much messed with implants and I've never actually completed the game. What is "the minmaxing adventure"?
>>317397092
Naughty nightwear +1 luck
Luck implant +1 luck
You can get the lucky shades but that requires access to the legion hideout which takes some effort.
Other than that, the early bird trait gives a +2 bonus which means you can effectively get around using 6 luck and still boost it to 10 using the nightwear + implant + trait.
>>317397410
>Crashes every small slope on the ground (and stops you)
That's an actual in-engine issue. Basically, you need to look down when you're in the air, otherwise you're fucked. If you time it properly, you can go off-roading and it's really fun.
>>317397537
For starters, put your luck at 8 and be Unarmed. Minmaxing mainly requires money.
>>317397289
You should have as much endurance as you do attributes, since each point invested in endurance=1 extra point elsewhere with implants. You need 7 endurance for some good traits, so I get that but don't implant endurance. I get one of the other ones and just keep my 7 endurance.
>>317397638
On my current guy I have10 luckand no shortage of cash, but what do I do with it?
>>317383880
rollin
>>317388062
>Fallout 3
>favors the use of non-VATS combat
best be baiting me, son
>>317393545
Every other person in the town next to it.
>>317383039
>How does Col Autumn get inside Vault 87?
With the god tier experimental and magical Rad-X that he injected himself with when he was in the water purifier.
>>317397909
Buy implants, mainly. A minmaxed run in New Vegas isn't specifically ALL THE HIGHEST STATS EVER. It's being able to buy exactly what you need without any worry. I had an unarmed run with like... 7 Luck and I managed to get 100 in all but five skills in vanilla. Come the DLC I had 100 in every skill at level 50.
Basically, don't be scared to take perks that lack flavor but give you direct benefits: Intense Training, Long Haul, Strength of the Bear, etc.
>>317395684
Pretty much. The legions part of the map is pretty sizable, but you only explore the teeny bit about the fort.
Would be pretty cool to launch legion raids onto the nearby airport to build a forward operating base from the cove. The NCR's version would involve stopping them. As the quest goes on the base becomes more advanced based off your choices leading up to the big clash.
>>317397537
Also the amount of implants you can get is determined by your base endurance, excluding the endurance implant.
can I get into BOS if I already nuked the Institute by allying with the Minutemen?
I literally never saw Danse past that first quest you do with him, I just want to check out the blimp and sink the fuck out of it
>>317388082
You forgot
>Hate babies
Or
>Baby? (Is the baby drowning?)
>>317398252
you came to the wrong thread muthafucker
>>317398309
No, it'd be
>Baby? (What's a baby?)
>>317398320
I played the original Fallouts before 3 even came out and shit on Bethesda every chance I get, c'mon, help a guy out.
I wish I had time to play fall out, I bought black ops for £55 & it's a bag of shit.
I am trying to enjoy multiplayer, but it's just wank.
Okay let's try this again and reshape this into a pasta
Fallout New Vegas is a "pure" RPG with partial FPS/TPS gameplay, and FAVORS the use of VATS and stat modifiers, it's closer to a tabletop RPG than a conventional videogame RPG; thus, having a more varied and deep setting with quests that put more weight into intelliegent or moral choices serves the purpose of it leaning more to its RPG side.
Fallout 3 is a bad FPS/TPS with partial dungeon crawler RPG elements, and PUSHES you to use VATS because the already limited gunplay is badly implemented despite being the centerpoint of the gameplay since the game's idea pump more action than social interactions, and the quests put you in more dangerous situations that require reflexes and/or little to no planning ahead (i.e. having to enter a minefield while a sniper is shooting at you), thus serving its purpose as an action game first, and a small-time rpg second, and still it fails at being what it aimed for.
They're very different games at their core, and comparing them and hailing NV as better or worse than FO3 is pointless because their bases and approaches are vastly different despite their similarities.
Prove me wrong again
Average tip: Youmight
>>317378697
this picture is posted in almost every NV thread
and this many people still replying to itdoes it trigger you?
>>317397896
I usually start my characters with max INT and END. Those are the two "essential" SPECIALs, I think, for the sake of minmaxing.
5 Strength because "fuck yeah, BIG GUNZ".
Never cared about Charisma, I can fix it with Barter and Speech points.
Luck 6 or 7 because a higher LUK fits the theme of the game.
>>317377895
Obsidian shill thread
>>317397537
It's playing the game with the peak goal of basically 'obtaining everything'. It's getting the best weapons, getting the best armour. Getting the most perks. Maxing your skills by obtaining all the skillbooks. If you're playing a good karma character it means completing all the quests in the best way possible. It means earning enough money to simply buy up literally all the ammo you come across. It means mapping out your SPECIAL to get exactly what you need from perks, no overspending. (i.e. - 4 int max, 8 or 9 endurance, 5 strength etc.)
It's minmaxing, what else could it be?
The only point here, is that it's generally a long term goal which doesn't make it suitable for someone who is just interested in playing a bit of the game.
>>317391276
then having them work as prostitutes makes sense
want good soldiers? get good, healthy mothers with good families. enslaving a woman to make her poop out babies is a really good way to populate your lands with a bunch of shitty useless sociopaths
Gunplay of Fallout 4 in Fallout NV when
Not me because the game won't let me
>try to launch
>launcher.exe has stopped working
>>317381708
>New Vegas has over twice as many locations as Fallout 3
Because Fallout 3 didn't need to dot the wasteland with 50 single-room shacks in which to hide a Sunset Sarsparilla Star cap.
>>317383791
>I'm already vilified by the Khans.
>Missing out their armory
LeL
>>317398613
So you can't say FO3 is a worse game than FNV because they had different goals, even if FO3 failed to achieve its goals? Wow.
>>317398823
Legion needs soldiers, not healthy individuals.
>AWOP
>JSawyer
why do I have a feeling this is going to be a bullet-sponge filled nightmare
>>317398994
Install Vicious Wastes or gtfo
Legion, NCR, House or Yes man.
/v/?
>>317398710
With power armor, I try to avoid putting too many points into strength for that reason. I think I start the game with either 4 or 5 strength.
Implant (+1), Perk from DLC (+2), Power Armor (+2), so anything more then 5 at the start is a silly idea. I like the stonewall perk, so 5 strength would be good, with 7 endurance.
NV has noborderless window
>>317399141
That's a very difficult question, anon. If it's your first playthrough, go NCR. If not, go House.
>>317399250
Indeed. And Weapon Handling, it's useful for certain fun weapons.
>>317399443
don't even need that! They have alcohol if you need the strength for big weapons.
Mfw when I always murder house because he comes off so condesending.
Done every other faction
>tfw dlcs didn't include the content to
>take Joshua to rek Caesar
>reunite Christine with Veronica and have lesbian threesome
>show Follows-Chalk around civilised parts and roleplay having your own Encino man
>get Dean back on stage in New Vegas
>chance to kek Waking Cloud's once you get her up your suite in Lucky 38
obsidian let it slip
>>317383880
Rollan.
>>317384352
>what does bos want to achieve after defeating institute? they have no plans whatsoever
if you blow up the institute with them Maxson explains his future plans with you on the airship as he promotes you to sentinel. What's confusing THERE is that he says something like "There hasn't been a sentinel under me in decades" despite the fact that he's like 26.
>>317399950
Waking Cloud's dead husband*
Nah, 4 actually improved on the game.
pic related
>>317400083
What is that an anti cheesing method in terminals like new vegas had?
Don't tell me you can get locked out and it just resets.
>>317400083
improving on the game =/= dumbing it down for a wider audience
>>317384352
>why do gunmen, the biggest mercenary company around attack everyone on sight?
they don't really. If you keep your distance they usually leave you alone. I've walked up to some of them and talked to them. They usually say something like "This is private property! LEAVE!" and point their guns before attacking.
>>317377895
It's fucking hilarious when you hear people in the media discussing the brand they always mention FO 3 and now FO 4 but pretend that NV does not exist.
"Oh man I put 100s of hours in FO3, and I remember the first 2, I'm so happy FO4 is finally here."
From people working for IGN.
>>317399950
All those ideas are shit, you should stop having ideas
>show Follows-Chalk around civilised parts and roleplay having your own Encino man
This is actually good though, you're forgiven for all that other bullshit you wrote
>>317400273
>>317400303
I prefer this overhaving to savescumdesu
>>317400273
>Don't tell me you can get locked out and it just resets.
Yeah, no more missing out on shit just because you misclick some dumb crap
>>317400534
>try 3 times
>exit terminal
>log back onto terminal
Wow that was hard and didn't involve saving at all.
>>317400534
Terminals are easy to hadk with even the slightest amount of patience. Even lockpicking is more difficult and tedious
>>317400646
It's the same principle of getting around a stupid system. I'm not bothered a single bit by the fact that FO4 offers a solution to a silly problem.
>>317400534
I played through New Vegas and Fallout 3 and never save spammed. If I fucked up I sucked it up and reattempted or just kept pushing forward. Don't excuse your laziness with video games, you just suck at them.
>>317400083
>getting locked out of terminals
just tab out after the third try, then go back in and your tries are refreshed
worked in nv and 4, it's even easier in 4 though
>>317400791
>you just suck at them.
My ADD compels me to loot every item in the game.
Probably why i savescum :')
>>317398613
How is fo3 a dungeon crawler be honest man you're a 1995+ kiddie
>>317400975
So we confirmed you're just another autist gamer who can't actually enjoy games unless he is "perfect" at them?
a way forward with terminals in fo4 would have been eliminate the possibility to cheese them through quitting, that every attempt carried over if you tabbed out, and that element actually had consequence to it
increase the number of attempts to 2 and possibly 3 with a perk
Nah, New Vegas' world is boring. I've played the game twice and have absolute no desire to look at it again. There are barely any interesting missions, locations, or anything. Sure it's gameplay is better, but Bethesda makes better exploration games. Fallout 3 is far superior in this regard to NV, and F4 is too so far.
>>317401115
Very true.
At least i know how to enjoy my games, you seem to be a bitter cunt no matter what though :)
>>317393424
>a wasteland shouldnt be a wasteland
>everything must be rebar and cement
lol okay familiar
>>317401147
hey, no harm in being a pleb
>>317401236
not bitter, quite calm actually. I would enjoy fallout 4 but not at a 60$ price tag. Game ain't worth the piss it boiled
>>317401147
>The first Fallout is awesome you guys! I fought the Incredible Hulk at the White House, then I killed Zombies in the sewers. It was totally epic!
>>317401115
It's not even add or autism he's just a modern kiddie that wants all the options so when done he can move on to the next aaa turd
>>317399083
In place of JSawyer?
I guess I could give it a try...
Fallout 4 is more fun to play, but New Vegas is a better experience. I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone
>>317379078
Mr New Vegas is such a charming bastard
he really makes the game comfy
What's the correct order to play the dlc's in and when should I start them up?
>>317401804
>A game that came out 6+ years later
>more fun to play
why yes anon, at least with each iteration the hit stuff portion of the game does become smoother. Too bad everything else gets cut, and we're still playing a game on an engine that hasn't been modernized in two decades.
Is there a mod that lets me smoke cigarettes and dress like Jesse Custer? Please let there be one
>>317402003
Go into Dead Money as soon as possible. Thank me later.
>>317402003
HH is disconnected from the rest of the DLCs and ins't hard at any level
The other three make most sense DM > OWB > LR, but DM is irritating as fuck if you don't have a lot of HP so if you don't run with high Endurance I would wait until at least 20 if not higher
>>317402326
There's several for smoking. Jesse Custer... nah. Probably not.
I just killed the House guy on my first playthrough.
What faction should I choose if I want the best outcome for humanity?
>>317402359
I'm gunna need more than that anon, I'm not being fool that easily.
>>317392096
>Boring and redundant bullet making system
You lamost had me there Anon, 6/10 I guess.
Does anyone know why most of my grass looks like this?
ITT: "Look at my I'm going against what is popular and being a contrarian because I am unique and independent, haha fuck current video games! Games were better back in my day!"
Pathetic.
>>317400791
locking up content because the player fucked up is not good game design, its shitty. just because you prefer broken games over well designed ones doesnt make you a better player at all
>>317402326
I use
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38002/?
but there's no animations or anything, I'd love to know if there's something better
>>317402653
Probably using and AMD ENB with a NVIDIA card or vice versa
>>317402653
where did you get a copy of Paper Fallout?
I heard is what would Nintendo do if they took the fallout series.
Fuck. I wish new vegas had steam workshop so I didn't have to bother with nexus
>play Fallout 3
>instantly disarm bomb in Megaton
>get told to go to the radio man
>he sends me for the dish
>slugging through 20 fucking identical tunnels
>every part of the city is the same
>get the dish
>fast travel back
>go to city
>no apparent way to get to the city
GOD WHY IS THIS GAME SO BORING THERE AREN'T EVEN ANY QUESTS IT'S JUST FOLLOWING A FUCKING TRAIL THROUGH HORDES OF SPONGE ENEMIES WHILE DEALING WITH THE WORST SHOOTING MECHANICS KNOWN TO MAN JESUS CHRIST SAVE ME
>150 hours clocked into the game
>realize I've never tried melee and unarmed builds
always seemed kinda counterintuitive with half the actually dangerous enemies being able to shoot you dead from a distance and the other half oneshotting you in melee, but I'm probably missing out on something.
>>317403395
>he fell for the Bethesda makes good games meme
>>317402003
They come with recommended levels ranging from 15 to 25, but really you can do all of them starting around 15 or so. Lonesome Road should be done last, everything else depends on what loot you want.
>Honest Hearts
Best rifle/handgun in the game and the best/ most stylin' light and medium armors until Lonesome Road.
>Dead Money
One good energy weapon and a lifetime supply of money, weapon repair kits, and stimpaks.
>Old World Blues
One named sniper rifle, a really powerful but high-maintenance energy weapon, and an axe with a nice EMP effect that's good for dealing with robots. Also a bunch of broken perks, some of which have to be bought in the form of implants.
>Lonesome Road
The weapons all suck, but the variants of riot gear are the best medium armor in the game. Ulysses' duster and the Legion variant of the courier duster are probably the best light armor in the game but they're sleeveless trenchcoats so you'll look like a retard wearing it.
>>317398919
You're right, it just dotted the wasteland with 50 single room shacks that had absolutely fuckall in them instead.
>>317403395
That's exactly how I feel about 4.
>main story is boring
>basebuilding gets boring after 1 hour
>hardly any quests that aren't "kill those guys over there" shit
>everything is empty or full of same copy pasted enemies
>shitty FPS gameplay doesn't help
>just stopped playing after 20 hours because I realized there is literally nothing to do
>>317379475
>he didn't nuke the legion
My last playthrough I was hell on the Legion. Assaulted their camp, let Boone headshot Caesar, then in LR I talked the nigger down and nuked the Legion camp.
>>317403546
go full Endurance and Strength, otherwise you will be killed before even reaching your target or you will reach and proceed to beat him to death with the equivalent of a slap
>>317403567
I usually go up to 50 in guns early on, boost up support skills for perks. After they are at a good level, then I pumped energy weapons up. Got all the skills to within 100 with stat boost. Melee to 75 and I run around with knock knock when I dont want to use ammo. Now I am raising explosives to 50 so I can blow shit up too.
>>317403546
Unarmed is super OP and you don't need any special build to do it, just go pick up Pushy and the Paladin Toaster and throw it on your current character
>>317403546
Actually, Unarmed is the most dangerous build for New Vegas, because you get a fuckton of perks and special moves that allow for all sorts of fun shit.
>>317403681
>Muh shacks!
Fuck off. You've been pushing this stupid meme every fucking time someone complains about FO3 in this thread.
Fallout 3 should have been set 30 years after the bombs fell, and have it revealed that the Chinese used bombs with low yields but super high radiation counts.
>>317403883
>>317403921
Well what do you know, my latest save is right next to Ruby Hill Mine.
I guess I'll try a different kind of cheese than sneak crits from YCS/186 then.
>>317404224
You're gonna feel overpowered as shit with it.
>>317404224
Protip froms omeone who destroyed the game with a single Unarmed run: Get the Ratslayer as soon as possible, go right back to Goodsprings, head further West to Bonnie Springs, sneak-kill all the Vipers, and look for the one with Combat Armor. She has unique Spiked Knuckles that make the game MUCH easier for the first half untl you start seeing Ballistic Fists.
>>317402565
>I just killed the only hope humanity had left
>How do I help humanity?
>>317403802
If you learn the mauler skill in the world, it helps with melee builds a ton. I mauler+2 slaps with knock knock and then start power swinging as they try and get up and it does between 350-400 or so damage from just that at 5 strength with no melee skills.
>>317403546
Melee builds are good as long as you invest in both unarmed and melee weapons to get all the perks. That is, until you get to deathclaws who completely break melee combat unless you're always high on turbo while fighting them.
>>317404402
Wait, those Vipers are supposed to be alive? In my gamewith Increased Wasteland Spawnsthey were all fucked up bycazadors.
>>317403921
>>317403883
Not him but is an actual Unarmed build viable? Like, not just "unarmed" weapons. Bare fists. Kenshiro style.
>>317402359
Dead money is fucking annoying af with all those damn speakers and poison clouds
>>317404918
That can happen in vanilla as well - but usually Cazadores come AFTER you wipe them out.
>>317404929
paralyzing palm might make it possible through sheer unbreakable stunlock, but it probably wouldn't be very fun.
>>317404474
>getting a fuckton of bottle caps from idiot gamblers is somehow going to revive scientific progress
>>317404929
In theory? Yeah, definitely. You gotta invest in VATS though. Like crazy. Also Running Water, Turbo, and the one Perk that gives you daily Turbo doses.
Check out Way of the Wasteland Warrior for some perks to supplement it. http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57786/?
>Just spent the last hour trying to free Benny to see what happens
>Everytime Legion are 2/fit/2furious and kill me or him by splash damage alone at the same time
>Start cheating
>Entire game is super fucked needing to get into the underground bunker
>Look up wiki
>Realise Benny is literally cut content after that scene
God dammit, why does every game I play have to be unfinished?
>>317402565
The best possible NCR ending objectively does the most good and least harm to everyone in the Mojave who isn't a raider.
>>317405084
>but usually Cazadores come AFTER you wipe them out
Heh, sounds like quite a surprise.
>>317405190
Bottlecaps = Money
In our world paper funds science, in Fallout it's caps.
>>317405493
Not in the way you expect. You wipe out the Vipers, come back a few days later, BOOM Cazadores all over. It's fucking crazy.
>>317405208
Oh yes.
>>317405312
You know whats worse than cut content? Content was never developed even though they had four times as long to make stuff!
So what happened to Western BOS? I keep hearing FO4 says it was basically wiped out outright, but even the worst NV endings implied there are still other chapters surviving.
>>317405636
Ah, I expected in in a "noise you made attracted cazadores", so as you are patching up wounds and gathering loot the orange-winged swarm rolls down from the nearby hills and fucks you in the ass. Would've been cool.
>>317405741
there's still brotherhood chapters out in midwest, since they would be the most organized faction out there.
It would be pretty fun to play a game set in the midwest, not made by Bethesda, and not using gamebyro
>>317405820
That can technically happen depend on how you approach the area, since Cazadores are chilling just nearby.
>>317392096
>NV is shit
>I dont like bethesda though
>oh but FO3 was a good game
get out shill
>>317388062
It's literally the same gameplay you fucking idiot.
I need a mod that gives guns a set amount of damage, and only makes gun skills affect accuracy and maybe reload speed if that's possible.
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