Where can I go to actually have a DECENT DISCUSSION of this video game?
Reddit.
Japan, the only country that got the actual game.
>>317314023
This tbqh
>>317313897
If you want semi-civilized threads with the occasional troll thrown in don't fucking use the same images over and over. Or you can use Melia as the opening image.
>>317313897
We had a couple of fairly decent threads yesterday.
It turns out the key is not start off by going on about localization. Hell, the real key is to not start off by going on about Lin and the boobslider. Even mentioning just the name changes resulted in a better topic.
>>317314597
This and ignoring all censorship shitposting when it pops up.
That's not a video game. That's a meme censored game confirmed shit by japs on a dead console.Is there anyone there?
>>317314350
>>317314597
These are good suggestions. Thanks guys.
And not a shitposter in sight so far.
so how does this game compare to Chronicles. I'd imagine that game would be pretty hard to top.
Did any of the Japanese players mention framerate drops? I've been noticing more and more in a lot of Youtube videos of the game that there are a lot of moments where the fps really seems to take a hit. These are all videos by different people so I don't think it's a problem with any specific video.
I'm just wondering why no one has mentioned it at all. It's a huge game so I don't blame the devs or anything, but it looks like it might be a bit annoying. I haven't seen any previews talk about it either, which is weird because people are usually all over this kind of thing.
>>317315096
I've heard multiple times from people who played the game that it doesn't have framedrops
>>317315096
Noticed those in the xplain videos as well, it looked like 1-2 second stutters whenever they entered a really big area. I have no idea how they handled loading in this game, but it's clearly pushing the Wii U the same way the first Xenoblade mildly pushed the Wii.
It was The Last Story that really made the Wii chug.
>>317314302
they didn't. They got cut content sold back as dlc
>>317314793
AM I ALL ALONE
WHO /partyupwithv/ HERE?
Motherfucking XenobladeX: The Secret File Art of Mira book releasing in Japan on the 25th.
Pic related. Lin art from the book.
>>317315353
Don't know if it's the actual game or video but yeah for like a second I see it. Wonder if Takahashi is going to push the NX as for as he can with X2.
>>317315353
>Xenoblade mildly pushes the Wii
>mildly
>TLS is what made the Wii really chug
Fuck off, Jason.
>>317315812
God damn where did you find this?
>>317315278
Hope that's true. It's apparent in a number of videos so I'm a bit skeptical.
Maybe the data packs speed up the loading so that doesn't happen? I'm grabbing the eShop version, maybe it runs better without a disc.
>>317316012
http://nintendoeverything.com/xenoblade-chronicles-x-the-secret-file-art-of-mira-out-in-japan-next-month/
>>317316040
Still limited by USB 2.0 read speeds, too bad it isn't 3.0.
>>317313897
No because no one wants to fucking buy it now, why would you? 55-60 bucks isn't a ton of money but it is really easy to keep it when they fuck up what you WANTED to buy, go somewhere else to talk about it where c-u-c-k-s like the shitty voice acting, name changes, and censorship you faggot
>>317316369
lovely baito
>>317316532
Yeah it's bait, no one would skip this because of the changes, it is just too out there that no one wants to hear garbage voice actors yell the entire game while grinding, add in skells and censorship and I am just hyped up to give them 60 bucks
>>317316869
I'm happy to hear you're excited for the game, anon. Me too.
>>317316785
Well they ARE selling it better than NoA, but that isn't especially hard to do.
Hell, them proving there's first person mode and actually mentioning there's online features in there is already doing a better job than NoA.
>>317316785
And in America at least there's the treehouse video that was uploaded a while ago.
NoE has done nothing to market this game, apart from releasing the original JP trailer w/ english voices.
>>317316959
Paid off my special edition preorder today. Just got to sword valley in chronicles, should have just enough time to finish off this game before xcx. Life is good and the hype is real.
>>317317041
Actively talking about it is more than NoA
>>317317050
Have you seen NoA trailer for X? It just has Bill saying "if you love Zelda or Metroid play X!"
>>317316959
I'm not it was sarcasm, it is completely realistic for people to now pass on this game. NOA (or NOE, whoever you want to blame) have given people enough reasons to
>>317317050
>NoE has done nothing to market this game, apart from releasing the original JP trailer w/ english voices.
Their Direct trailer was about 30 times better than the shitty rehashed E3 presentation NoA spat out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGAwHbluZ0
>>317317186
Make sure you kill all those Mechon side bosses before moving on to Galahad Fortress. Lots of exp.
>>317317231
',^)
>>317317189
> It just has Bill saying "if you love Zelda or Metroid play X!"
Jesus hell. At least there's that series of videos they're slowly releasing, right? The adventure diaries or whatever it's called.
>>317313897
Neogaf doesn't mind censorship
>>317317336
>>>>>:( I'm not good at making faces on my keyboard, I hope people get around region locking on the wii u eventually
>>317313897
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/701151-xenoblade-chronicles-x
or
www.reddit.com
or
www.neogaf.com
Plenty of Redditors, circlejerkers and censorship apologists, you'll feel right at home there.
>>317317445
Yeah but those are just shitty cut versions of the much better Japanese survival guides.
Compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjTzuqyQZlc&list=PLBLEqp47V7qYwC58cE5rL5PsUPYdjiBAV
To:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUK1b_ysTnI&list=PL2JiZAV5BmDVQrkyFO7-6--bB3on3ZCoN
>>317316253
Definitely importing that for christmas.
>>317317928
Same, anon.
>Told myself I wouldn't buy the game if it was censored
>They only censored stuff I wasn't going to use
You win this time Treehouse
>>317318153
This desu. I'm really gay, so all this boob sliding shit doesn't effect me at all.
>>317317728
>Sonyponygaf
>Actually discussing this game more than a Kotaku article or some shitter's opinion about the game
Are people so buttblasted that they can no longer see cartoon boobs or is there actual cut content that I'm not aware of?
>>317318153
>>317318303
>>317318950
>less voice option for male
>religious tone censored
>but its only the boobies
NoA shills please...
>>317318950
People are bullshitting and saying that they cut story elements, but all evidence says otherwise.
>>317318950
The only cut content as in CUT is the boob slider in the character creator.
There's altered content: some of Lin's lewd costume options have extra skin-tight latex to cover more skin, and some religious references ironed out (Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipators (BLADE) -> Builders of the Legacy After the Destruction of Earth (BLADE), etc.) but that's pretty much it
>>317319029
Don't bother, it doesn't matter what gets cut, it could literally be anything. But if anything lewd gets cut then censorship apologists will latch onto it immediately, because that is what makes you look like a loser for caring about and they can just repeat that. As if it was the only thing that got cut, and as if it makes you sick and twisted for caring about it in the first place, on an anime image board that they are also on.
>>317319029
>religious tone censored
If you're looking forward to this game, chance are you've liked another Xeno game before
If you've liked another Xeno game before, you've already dealt with religious tone being censored
There was a comfy discussion a day or two ago.
>Story
>Exploring and/or Sidequests
WHICH FIRST /v/?
Exploring-tier here. Xenoblade Chronicles has made me a fucking addict to ether deposits and collectibles. I can't wait just put the fucking game into my veins.
>>317319487
Get on that written letter in a postal tube to Monolithsoft in Japan if you haven't already.
>>317319525
Gather as much sidequests as possible, then go exploring while doing them. Only advance the story after I've completed the section of the map I'm in.
>>317319029
>less voice option for male
Que? The video I saw had 7 for both, didn't it?
>>317319378
>but that's pretty much it
>its just this
>its not important
Regardless of how little it means to you, a censorship is a censorship and should not be endorsed.
You can disregard and continue turning a blind eye for this, but you can't say that its ok for them to do this, or this is something that is right to do.
And for god sake, attack his argument, not the person.
>>317318950
they changed the names of almost everything for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
>>317318891
They actually discuss it instead of shitposting. I know, it must be a wild concept for you.
>>317319029
so it's literally nothing, then?
I mean, it's a shame that anything gets changed, I get that, but it's pretty damn far from OH MAN PREORDER CANCELLED I HAVE LESS OPTIONS FOR MALE VOICES GAME RUINED MAN IT'S OVER
>>317319378
A big deal breaker for a lot of people is that they aren't just throwing up the japanese audio on the eshop. NIntendo is already just assuming you have an external HDD at this point, there is no reason they can't just put that up there aside from sheer arrogance and that if someone actually knows japanese (yet bought a PAL wii u) it fucks up there localization.
>>317319762
>there is no reason they can't just put that up there aside from sheer arrogance
Or maybe they didn't want to pay extra cash for the rights to use the Japanese VAs' work
So is this game 720p 30fps?
>>317316012
>a rope of robots
man that takes me back
>>317319762
>NIntendo is already just assuming you have an external HDD at this point
I have SM3DW, Smash and MK8 DLC and all data packs downloaded and still have 5 gigs free. I don't know what you're talking about
>>317319749
The religious shit is hilarious since before they were saying butchered script yet many claim otherwise.
>>317319909
Yes
>>317319691
They changed english words used by the japanese to sound cool, to words that make sense in context
>>317319762
>a deal breaker for a lot of people is that they aren't just doing something that's extremely rare and was virtually unheard of until very recently
uh huh
>>317319608
I've just started on learning jap, NOA will NEVER get better and I am not delusional enough to think otherwise. I can get a jap n3ds since my OG one is beat up but with the wii u there ain't much I can do, maybe at some point people will figure out how to get around region locking (and still be able to play online and all that good shit) but whatever. Hopefully NX is region free but if it's not I'll spend the extra 100 bucks or whatever the stupid japanese price will be
What file system does the Wii U use? Some proprietary shit? Please don't be FAT32.
>>317320116
proprietary
>>317319895
I don't think many people realize just how expensive the Japanese voices really are.
>>317320042
But muh sacred borrowed kotoba, anon!
Do the install packs reduce the pop-in / upgrade the LOD?
I've seen a shitload of videos where monsters spawn a few feet in front of the characters.
Still hype of course.
>>317320053
>>317319895
people wanted dual audio, they should of paid for it
>>317319936
They expect most people to have bought them by now, at least if you to download all the shit they asked you to get for xeno to load faster
>>317320228
>saving the no eagle version
Here's the real American cover.
>>317320228
Data packs don't make the Wii U more powerful. It reduces loading times and makes textures pop-in a lot less. You'll still get most monsters (outside of the gigantic ones) and even encampments appearing out of nowhere 2 feet in front of you
>>317320228
The packs are mostly used to lower loading times and texture loads, but they do reduce a few pop-ins. Not all of them
>>317320337
>should of
>OF
>>317319029
>religious tone censored
People say this, and I think it makes what we actually know sound different than it is.
It's not like the game had this huge, religious theme to it that is getting changed. There were names that had various religious origins and intonations but were not actually specifically meant to be anything important in it of themselves. Testament, Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipators, etc. None of these words are core things to the game or its story. Are the changes generally worse and seem to follow no real logical criteria? Yes. I would have, in many of these cases, preferred just a straight translation. But people shouldn't be going around acting like something different happened than what happens many localizations.
>>317320516
people write should of, get over it
Just stated to watch the video Nintendo uploaded 6 hours ago, I am really impressed with the draw distance and how they designed the world, its exactly the type of game I want to play visually. Not a fan of the combat but its other features redeem it.
As a sonygger, although I wish this game was on the PS4 its dose well for a wiiU game and I will be enjoying this title.
The censorship has really put a sour taste in my mouth however
>>317320672
Those "people" should end their life.
>>317314350
>bird
Submit to the robutt, the true best girl.
>>317320770
you should of a long time ago
>>317320539
I have to say, having seen the beginning of the game in English, that Nagi saying "Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipator" would have sounded unbelievably retarded and out of place. That's some George Lucas tier shit. I'm sure it's fine in Japanese since most people can't understand it.
>>317320516
>>317320672
>>317320770
>>317320831
Game looks fun as fuck and the initial western impressions have been very positive. Some people are saying that it's the best open world this year, which sounds crazy considering all of the big open world games we've had.
Can't wait to play it and then play it again in a few years at 4k@60fps on PC.
>>317320539
World building is a critical elements to the story and its structure.
It is something that the writer comes up with to add with the world they imagine the story takes place it.
Removing and altering this show how little they respect the writer and what his intention is, which is something any translator wouldn't do since this is against their work ethic of preserving as much as possible the author intention and will.
But this is vidya, anything gets a free pass in the name of 'localization'.
>>317320957
Beeyondu za rogosu arutifisharu desutiny emancipatah
>>317313897
Neogaf, your opinions won't be challenged there.
>>317321016
In a few years PC will have moved on from 4k to 8k and virtual reality.
>>317321071
English always sounds cool when you don't know what any of it means.
When is some Jap company going to take the huge worlds of Xenoblade and stick Monster Hunter's combat in it?
Is it basically confirmed that X pushes the Wii u to its limits? Not that the wii u was a power house anyways.
>>317321152
Truth. They literally use whatever the fuck sounds cool to them. And it makes no fucking sense here.
>>317321060
Ah yes, those sacred "author intention"
>>317313897
You can't have a decent discussion anywhere on 4chan so I hope you weren't looking for one.
>>317321016
>considering all of the big open world games we've had.
To be fair most have been quite bad.
Shit tier open world
>MGSV
>FO4
Good tier open world
>Witcher 3
and
Maybe Xenoblade, it really depends on how they utilize the open space and how varied and well designed the bimoes outside of follow designated game routes.
>>317315812
she doesn't look quite as POTATO here
>>317321234
>>317314302
this right here
>>317321296
I was thinking it. I love the guy's art, but in XCX it looks less charming and warm than Xenoblade Chronicles and just more LOOK AT OUR HD GRAPHICS and plastic burn dodge tool shit on the character models.
>>317321168
It's the only game I know of that's 30FPS on the Wii U. All the other big Nintendo first party games are 60FPS.
>>317313897
>Americans will be forced to pay MORE for a game with LESS content
How does Nintendo of America get away with it?
>>317321474
But they pay almost 50% less.
>>317319029
>>religious tone censored
it never provided any actual substance it was there for style and nothing else like evangelion you may as well be angry at megaman for having a different name
>>317321436
Hyrule Warriors and WWHD both run at 30fps with pretty big dips, like sub 20fps dips.
>>317321474
Aren't we getting the DLC included as part of the English release?
>>317321474
>Japan pays 60 + 15 for full game
>Americans pay 60 for the full game without a slider and extra potato clothing
I'd gladly pay for a Japanese audio DLC, does that me a kek?
>>317321583
As far as the charterers, yes.
>>317321234
Yes, regardless of the how retarded the writer is, what they wrote shouldn't be altered just because you think its stupid.
>>317321635
>Japan pays 60 + 15 for full game
Canada is part of North America bud. Check out Canadian game prices.
>pay 60 for the full game without
>without
Then don't say full game.
>>317321840
>Canadians are American
Yeah, nah
>>317321635
The base game was $80 excluding tax, plus the DLC for another 17-20 if you bought it all at once.
>>317321836
Counterpoint: George Lucas
>>317321263
>Good Tier Open World
>Witcher 3
Nigga, have you lost your damn mind?
Witcher 3 was a great game, but the world itself was litterally nothing but filler and eye candy between quest destinations. It served no purpose and altered the game in no way other than giving you some pretty scenery as you wandered on your horse.
At least MGSV uses the openess of the world as part of its core gameplay loop by letting you accomplish any objective in any way you damn well please (even though they could have just been open ended locations and never really needed to be connected to a larger world).
And Fallout 4 may be a shitty game but it also uses its open world better than Witcher by putting a strong focus on exploration, discovery, and accomplishing things from any direction you choose.
Witcher is just following the linear trail with witcher senses and then killing the monster in the set spot its going to be in- but only after you followed the trail and triggered the right conversations first. The open world does not really add much and isn't very interactive or serve much of a purpose as it does in MGSV or Fallout 4.
That said, I would be inclined to argue that despite having a worse Open World, Witcher 3 is a better game, so do not misunderstand specifically what I am trying to say here.
>>317321836
if the writer is cool with the changes made for other countries then its fine
>>317321886
Whether your autism allows you to accept that your wrong or not, they, and Mexicans, and South Americans, are all American.
>>317321840
Canadians aren't american retard
>>317321836
>the same company isn't allowed to alter words of a script to make it less retarded
Gosh. Go try telling any television or movie production company that. Or any book publisher. See if you can avoid getting blasted out of the room by the force of their laughter.
>tfw no submissive Melia gf
>>317322007
>Mexicans, and South Americans, are all American.
Only non-americans say this
>>317322007
nobody says that
>>317321791
>15
But its been proven in recent streams that she is still 13.
Did Nintendo change her age back down after the shit storm we raised a few months ago?
>>317322029
Whether your autism allows you to accept that your wrong or not, they, and Mexicans, and South Americans, are all American.
>>317322060
But I'm American and saying it.
>>317322132
Shut up Enrique
>>317322121
But he >>317322060 says non-Americans say that.
Golly who do i believe between the two of you?
>>317322132
>But I'm American and saying it.
Then as a fellow American you should know well that their tie is to their nations, not the continent they're on.
>>317322132
its a word that's used for people who live in the usa and no one else
>>317321946
>if the writer is cool with the changes made for other countries then its fine
Pretty sure any of these changes is not known to the writer.
Nintendo can alter anything without the consent of the original dev because Xenoblade X is fully owned by nintendo.
>>317319525
Reclaimer here. Going to just grab as many quests I can and off I go. And only touch story quests when I feel the need to.
>>317322191
I accept your concession.
>>317322250
"Tie" is just a nonsense word. Objectively people who live on the continents of America are American, and no amount of autistic spinning is going to change that basic classification.
>>317322131
No, she was always 13 Game Informer got it wrong.
I feel bad for Canadians with how much more games cost for them. At least, that's the impression I got from someone saying they couldn't afford the XCX CE.
While I think removing the bust slider was stupid and unnecessary, it's not something that affects core gameplay and story for me.
I'm kinda tired of this shitstorm. I can't wait for the reviews shitstorm on the 30th.
>>317322336
until I see any evidence of the writer being angry with these name changes the new names aren't censorship
>>317322336
>Pretty sure any of these changes is not known to the writer.
And you know this, how?
>>317322385
>"Tie" is just a nonsense word.
It's not nonsense, it's loyalty.
You think any German sees themselves as European over German? Fuck no.
>>317322407
She was 15 at one point, as one 8-4 guy said. My guess is, making her 15 still didn't let them keep Lin uncensored, so they just gave her 13 back to keep the whole "child genius" intact.
>>317322482
Sometimes, when he's not talking out of his ass, his ass whispers the secrets of Japanese video game production to him.
>>317322376
Same here, anon.
I have found so many interesting stories in the sidequests of XC, and I think XCX will have even more considering the nature of the game.
>but the world itself was litterally nothing but filler and eye candy between quest destinations.
Thats what open world simply is for the most part, witcher 3 did it well because the scenery and bimoes were incredibly well designed and if you followed the story line, level integration with the open world was good. The witcher 3 also had a lot of side quests jotted in the world so everything was nicely done.
As for MGSV, the 360 degree entry point features is very overrated, as someone who has played 1~GZ, the only thing open world did for the game was reducat from the quality of the level design through the illusion of space. Metal gear is a game that thrives on seperate hub closed world level design and you only have to look back at it's preddesesors to realize the advantage this game kojima to nail level pacing, platforming, bimoes integration and overall good level design which was largely absent from the game. That's why I think MGSV is a shitty open world game.
As for fallout 4, what I said was kind of uncalled for, I haven't played the game and should not have commented on it.
Witcher 3 isn't the end all be all of 10/10 open world games but it was easily the best one this generation. Witcher 3 fails in many areas but this is not one of them.
>>317322336
>Pretty sure any of these changes is not known to the writer.
The original creators have to actually sign off their ok with changes to the original work. That's how it works in all mediums.
Yes, a company can twist their arm until they say ok, but they still have to say it.
>>317322475
>>317322482
You do realize that all these changes made by NoA does not require any consent from the dev right?
On the contrary, games like Devil Third, Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta are out of NoA reach since its a third party title and any changes would require consent from the holder of the IP.
>>317322637
meant for
>>317321941
>>317322542
>as one 8-4 guy said
No one at 8-4 said this and it was an 8-4 employee who was asked and he said they got it wrong.
>>317322648
do you have any evidence of the creators being unhappy with the name changes if not I will assume that they are content with the localization until further notice
So, /v/.
Are you going to base the MC off your waifu?
>>317322638
Except in larger productions where the writer is just a cog, and in those cases what they think is totally irrelevant to the process anyway. It's essentially claiming censorship because a movie studio didn't go with your first draft. Ridiculous.
>>317322836
I was going to recreate shulk
>>317322836
I usually make brown girls
But there's already a brown girl, don't know if I want two of them
>>317322836
Probably my PSO character. I have no idea.
>>317322648
>On the contrary, games like Devil Third, Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta are out of NoA reach since its a third party title and any changes would require consent from the holder of the IP.
It's cute that you actually think that.
>>317322937
There are already at least two. One of the former DLC characters is also a brown girl.
>>317322419
Makes anyone with any brains to carefully pick what they want to buy. Piracy is going to become even more rampant.
>>317322937
Do it. Nothing wrong with more cute brown girls.
>>317313897
Japan
oh wait, they think it sucked
>>317321556
HW was Koei and they couldn't program to save their lives. As for WWHD I don't know why it's not 60. Is anything tired to the frame rate?
>>317322825
Watch the direct.
Read Takahashi interview.
There's a specific statement he made regarding doll, and he seems really love and passionate about the name that was given.
This guy, regardless whether he agree or not, would not be happy with these changes.
>>317323221
>i'm a mind reader
Fascinating.
>>317313897
how do you define DECENT DISCUSSION. Because it sounds like you want to ignore what's actually happening so you can get a bunch of sycophantic assholes all repeating the same obnoxious BEST GAME EVARRZZ garbage so you can justify your purchase
>>317323221
>Takahashi is a close personal friend of mine and he would never ever ever consent to these changes. Ever.
>>317322637
>>317322716
>>317322637
>>317322716
>witcher 3
The open world added nothing. That game could have been nothing but corridors and rooms, and mechanically, nothing would have changed.
>MGSV
I disagree entirely. I feel that MGSV has the best quality of level design in the series. In addition to having far more options for infiltration. In a game where navigating an environment and moving around hazards and threats, setting traps, ect is the core gameplay, Open World adds a lot, because in a game of that type, the freedom of approach is what gives the game depth. Of course there are pitfalls the game can fall into (open world when implemented poorly can make it too easy to get around threats, or be too heard and leave only one correct path. Thankfully, MGSV avoids both of these flaws)
>Fallout 4
At least you admit your mistake here. Fallout 4 is a heavily flawed game, but the way it uses open world is really well done. Especially with the new crafting system adding such a huge incentive to interact with, gather, and scrap as much shit as possible.
>Witcher 3 best open world game of the generation.
I would say Witcher 3 is one of the best games of the generation so far hands down.
But its a poor 'open world game'.
Thankfully that doesnt hold it back at all, because it doesnt really try to be an open world game. Its just a normal, typical RPG, with an open world filler between the areas that actually matter to give some scenery and a sense of scale.
>>317323303
>>317323515
>mind reader
>Takahashi talk about the Doll term, what it means and why he used it
>lol we change its name because its not cool enough
A write would most likely flip their shit if this happen to them, than saying 'yeah, I'm TOTALLY COOL with that'.
You don't have to be a fucking mind reader to do this.
>>317323515
As you know, businessmen never express love and enthusiasm for any detail of the product they want you to buy, especially in publicity interviews.
I think the people who talk about changes to this game, need to read what went down with Xenogears's localization.
Because holy hell was that a shitshow. For one, the ENTIRE game was translated by one guy (specifically Richard Honeywood who works at 8-4 now and he was the localization director of FFVII). And Square was understaffed at the time, so he had to do some of the coding too, and sleep in the office to save time.
Then came the issues with the translation. See the original name for the final boss in Japan was going to be Yahweh, but Richard said in a meeting to Takahashi "that's a little too on the nose, plus translators are actually leaving the team partially due to it", so Takahashi changed it to Yabeh, which is a combination of Yahweh (hebrew word for god) and yabai (japanese word for danger). When it came to the US again even that was seen as too much, so Yabeh was changed to Deus.
Then there's the various miscellanious stuff, like getting the number 17 in German spelled wrong. This game gave Honeywood so much shit that it basically changed the way Square dealt with localization as a practice, working internally with the devs because to do it on their own was, in his own words, "pure hell". Ted Woolsey is stated as saying that Secret of Mana nearly killed him.
>>317322836
I totally would if I could. But without the slider I cannot make A cups.
>>317323374
my guess is that he wants discussion about certain missions, areas, strategies, characters, monsters etc rather than 400 posts worth of bitching about not being able to see the cartoon character naked or about how changing "doll" to "skell" is the equivalent of dropping atom bombs on hiroshima again
>>317323702
That is back in the day, adn they still manage to keep most of the tone intact.
But changing shit just because they are not cool enough with an equally ambiguous, made up word is plain stupid.
>>317323669
do you have any proof of him being angry with the change in other countries?
>>317323221
>There's a specific statement he made regarding doll
What statement, may I ask? Because it might even be less about the name and more about, you know, the giant robots themselves.
>>317324060
>adn they still manage to keep most of the tone intact.
Not really, if you read the interviews with him. He admits that while he's proud of the job he does, he fucked up royally in some sections of that game's translation.
>>317323702
>Richard Honeywood who works at 8-4 now
>Richard Honeywood
Did he get his fucking hands on Xeno X this time around again?
>>317324060
being completely butthurt about the change from one ambiguous made up word to another ambiguous made up word is also pretty stupid.
if you're that much of a weeaboo just buy the japanese version
>>317323669
Again, stop speaking like you know the guy.
>>317323086
Well the DLC girl is more tanned than brown, I like my brown girls like I like my chocolate, 70% cacao
>>317323160
I'll decide when I play the game and see all the hair and face options. On one hand, while Elma looks great, I perfer my brown girls with black hair, so I could make one closer to my type. On the other hand, the other girls all look pretty samey so I could make something more unique.
Himeri a cute tough
>>317324060
>adn they still manage to keep most of the tone intact.
http://web.archive.org/web/20130224061105/http://xenoverse.xenotensei.com/xenogears/xgtranslation.htm
>>317324157
Its called logical thinking.
What kind of retarded writer would be OK with this?
The question should be reversed if anything; Does Takahashi is OK and fully consent with these changes?
>>317324272
I think the last big game he did the localization for was Ni No Kuni. He mostly translates the Inazuma Eleven series.
And you say that like he's bad. This is the guy that brought us the english versions of Chrono Cross (which corrected a continuity error he noticed and Kato let him change it) and Crystal Chronicles.
>>317324409
Finally some fan art, she is so cute.
>>317324469
>if i don't like it, the Director must not like it either
>>317324469
>Does Takahashi is OK and fully consent with these changes?
I don't know, why don't you ask him?
>>317324469
>Does Takahashi is OK and fully consent with these changes?
Considering the changes had to go through Monolith, where a significant part of the top staff knows english (including Takahashi himself), then he would at least be aware of them indeed.
>>317324158
Its from his tweet, can't seem to fucking find it.
>>317317189
How about NOA just shut the hell up & release Metroid 5 already.
>>317324430
It just keeps going. This is why a single person shouldn't do a game all by themselves with a limited timeframe.
>>317324469
>Does Takahashi is OK
you alright, anon?
>>317323657
>Open World adds a lot
There is literally nothing in the open world of MGSV. If you take away the open world, what do you have? A circle of shit level design, every single time. I can understand the appeal of having more options to infiltrate but it's really just some extra movement space, the options largely come from the additional gameplay features and improvements not the open world which really dose nothing for the game and looks like shit.
GZ had objectively superior level design, the very core and meat of the levels in MGSV is 90% trash. I can't believe you're actually glorifying MGSV, you must not have played the previous installments.
Technically, the same argument can be made for witcher 3 since it too has the advantage of 360 degree entry point to levels but its meaningless if the levels themselves are shit. There is so much more variety and bimoes in witcher 3 I really think you should reconsider what game you played.
>hat game could have been nothing but corridors and rooms, and mechanically, nothing would have changed.
The difference between witcher 3's open world and MGSV's open is there is actual content in witcher 3, it has side quests jotted around the world, monsters, a variety of materials to collect, houses, infastructure, buildings and loot to find inside of them and also variety in landscape and biomes in general. You're being quite retarded here for putting MGSV before Witcher 3 in my opinion.
>>317324624
I came here to fucking scalp you faggot
>>317324863
To be fair, however, Xenogears is pretty much any translator's nightmare come true.
>>317316785
There were a shitload of directs and stuff mentioning it last year, and it did have it's own direct a while ago. what did they just run out of ideas now that the game is almost out? they don't know how to hype
I hope we all have faces ready for Soraya Saga tweeting about how excited she is for skells on launch day.
>>317324624
Only retarded writer or director would be excited and happy with such change.
Do you assume that Takahshi is mentally ill enough to happily accept all these changes that?
Nothing XCX does offends me on the level that Xenosaga 3 did. You KNOW which scene I mean, and how Bamco thought that shit was ok. Despite people getting splattered all the time in episode 1.
>>317324469
The kind of writer who consulted other people and took feedback about their decisions. You need to stop speaking as though creators are infallible and that their works are produced in a vacuum
>>317324469
You alright, anon?
>>317323702
>Ted Woolsey is stated as saying that Secret of Mana nearly killed him.
Never played SoM but I have a copy sitting in a box in my room somewhere.
What about the translation nearly killed him?
>>317325180
The amount of work it required. Very little communication between US offices and the devs in Japan (according to Honeywood, usually just one in-between guy). They didn't know how to get european text characters to work back then.
>>317325102
Do you comfortably know Takahashi well enough to make such a statement? Can you get me his autograph?
>>317325109
I did not understand that scene at ALL the first time I saw it. "The fuck are we putting back?"
>>317325180
>http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/localization/localization2.htm
> JS: You were responsible for the west getting to enjoy many still-loved classics, all of which have since been re-released. Their content is arguably timeless - are there any specific examples of things you regret having had to remove? Speaking as a fan, was much lost in Secret of Mana?
>TW: Yes, probably 40% or more of the screen text was nuked...there just wasn't space in the ROM. That means lots of story elements, nuance, personality, etc. also had to be stripped out. It was hard to do that, especially after I'd finished a translation, and then was told it was way over. At some point, due to time constraints, I just had to turn away from the screen text and focus on my English translation. I had to pare down from that. There is a lot I wish I could have done, but to be honest, I'm just glad those games are being rereleased, even with updated/edited screen text...they are great experiences, and a new generation of gamers can enjoy them. That is all good.
>SOM was, in some ways, the hardest. I was over there for over a month, and the screen text was still being modified quite a bit every day. Things I translated often got 'edited' and when I read them the next day, I realized I needed to go back and change them again to make them grammatical. I loved that game, but am probably most dissatisfied with the final result. Certainly tried my best, but that thing nearly killed me (though I did love being in Japan with my family for that length of time...that was a gift!)
>>317322937Don't worry, the other brown girl turns blue-ish grey after the story-quests
>>317325349
Her blood.
>>317325059
>Soraya Saga
It's my biggest fantasy that Nintendo will take her back, boot that faggot Aonuma and have her script Zelda games.
>>317325109
Link it. I can't be assed to play Xenosaga anytime soon.
>>317325452
She's too busy being a traditional wife and mother. You know she and Takahashi have kids.
>>317325109
>mfw Xenosaga 1 censorship
>>317325102
The only creator in Japanese games that gets THAT assdevastated about his work is Kojima.
Fun fact, the reason MGS1 is filled with a lot more dialouge that sounds like shit by normal human beings in english is because the in-house translator for Konami basically rewrote sections of the script so that what was being said was natural english and not....Kojima-isms. The one that remained intact was the classic "can love bloom on the battlefield".
When Kojima found out, he was FURIOUS and got the guy fired for "interfering with his artistic vision". It's why the language is more stilted and awkward in MGS2 onwards.
>>317325515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Y_a-eRaYI
The blood was digitally removed in the US version, so her hands were cupping nothing and the scene made no sense.
>>317325752
You mean the arm-breaking scene? That wasn't nearly as bad because it doesn't outright ruin a scene.
>think about what character I'm going to make
>remember that I always just end up making Rance in the end anyway
Is spike damage still in XCX?
I'm playing Xenoblade right now and running into enemies that have spike is incredibly annoying, mainly because I can't tell if an enemy has spike until I'm actually fighting it.
>>317325043
They did a Nintendo Minute today but it was pretty par for the course in terms of showcasing.
It ended with getting destroyed by a cool optional mega boss though.
>>317325817
Are you saying all that 10/10 dialogue I loved in MGS1 is become some fuccboi altered the script?
>>317325817
I love how the translator for MGS2 even said it was a mess and that interview with Hardcore101 got taken down because of Kojima, though thankfully you can still view it with archive.
>>317325817
That's why I posted a happy face. A guy ripping his head off with his bare hands is way more brutal than doing it with a knife. And the "censored" version actually shows the severed head, while a black shadow hides it in the "uncensored" version
>>317325940
If the enemy fires up an aura, it has spike damage. That's how you tell. And generally when they're higher level.
the GameXplain 3 hour gameplay stream of the game does more to make you want the game is more than NoA ever did.
>>317326030
Yeah pretty much. Because one of the points of localization is to make what is being said sound natural in the translated language.
>>317325515
This isn't the one he's talking about, but this pissed me off so much when I was 15. THIS is unnecessary censorship my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cAVzvSYWc
>he buys censored games
>>317325817
And now I understand why the last two hours of MGS2 really, really needed an editor.
>>317325940
IIRC no, no more spike damage.
Also infinite inventory.
Those were my two main gripes with Xenoblade and apparently they're both gone.
>>317326117
Dam, well that kinda forces me to take a new look at localization.
I guess I just want localization that sounds good in that case.
>>317326131
Why would I deprive myself of good games like Ace Attorney and Ocarina of Time?
>>317326273
Think again. Don't forget this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg
>>317326273
That's the point of localization. Direct translation simply does not work outside of I guess Spanish to English because they're similar enough. Japanese is just designed too differently to come across as natural in english when translated directly.
>>317326123
What's triggering me most about this is the horrible timing on the subs.
Actually, it seems like the problem is the audio is out of sync.
>>317324409
This is my waifu.
>>317324948
>>317324948
>There is literally nothing in the open world of MGSV.
You mean the bases, the guards, the animals, you know, all of the gameplay?
This is what sets MGSV apart from a lot of other open world games, like Witcher or GTA. Sure, those other ones have an open world, but once it comes to actually doing something you are given a linear objective that has to be completed in a linear way with linear enemy spawns and all sorts of scripted non-sense.
MGSV does open world justice by making the gameplay and actual level design itself open world.
>GZ had objectively superior level design
I will humor you then. If it is objective, that means it should be easy for you to prove it, right? So go ahead and prove it big boy. What objective standards are we accepting as "good level design"? Is it "amount of secrets"? "number of ways to infiltrate base"? "complexity of guard patrols and searches?"
Come on, you seem to think this is easily objectively proven, so lets go that route then. Give me some hard numbers and objective standards, and then lets compare how MGSV stacks up to Ground Zeroes.
Spoiler Alert: Phantom Pain wins.
>same argument can be made for witcher 3.
No, because any meaningful content funnels you into a very specific location that can only be accessed a very specific way by following a very specific route. The name of the game in Witcher 3 is scripted events.
In MGSV, everything is dynamic and system based.
>Side quests jotted around the world
And MGSV has side ops jotted around the map.
But all of Witcher's side quests are scripted. MGSV's Side Ops, while having no story attached to it, are systems based and can be carried out however you choose.
>Monsters
MGSV has animals, guard patrols, deliveries, tank units, helicopters, ect
>Materials to collect
So does MGSV.
>Houses, infrastructure, buildings
Outposts, Bases, ruins, villages, camps, airports, oilfields, ect
>Loot to find inside of them
MGSV has that too!
>>317326389
Eat your hamburgers apollo
>>317323730
Same problem I'm going to run into.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120125211106/http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/metalgear/agnesskaku3.htm#13
>>317326058
You're right, thank god, no one should not be able to read this.
>>317320381
Is it really rated M?
Why censor it then?
What about muh freedoms?
>>317325102
>happily accept all these changes that
You okay, anon?
>>317326549
M for Murrika
>>317326510
You couldn't make flat chests.
>>317326549
>Is it really rated M?
No, its T
>>317326074
I thought you meant when Albedo runs his knife along MOMO's cheek and reaches into her chest.
>>317326492
Don't pretend Capcom doesn't do the best localizations.
>>317326549
it's rated T
Is Lyn 13 just on the outside?
>>317326586
Alright! Murrica!
I'm back on board now.
>>317321234
That's pretty much what any good fantasy writer does.
X'il Quiertholdalaszymanzaros
etc.
>>317326627
INSIDE AND OUT
>>317326325
Because you like the taste of shit.
>>317326389
Romance languages translate effortlessly amongst one another, just like asian languages do, as well (for example, Spanish to Portuguese is about as easy and straightforward as Japanese to Korean). English>Spanish is a tad more convoluted, as from time to time you'll be forced to rewrite sentences so they read more naturally, but it's still nothing in comparison to translating Japanese to English, which are really, really fucking different.
>>317326772
>INSIDE
How would you know?
>>317326787
>English>Spanish is a tad more convoluted, as from time to time you'll be forced to rewrite sentences so they read more naturally
Yeah but it's nothing big. There's colloquialisms like how Spanish has "it cost an eye from my face", which is their equivalent of "it cost me an arm and a leg". But otherwise a lot of it translates smoothly enough that even Google can generally do it.
>>317326594
I at least wanted something close
>>317321229
It makes kinda sense for tying in with the religious undertones, but sounds godawful.
>>317327016
A potato cooking a potato, but that's cannibalism. Not again. There's enough of that in Xenogears.
>>317326815
I checked.
>>317321791
>fucking 16 character to recruit to your party
Holy shit! I've been kinda media blackout-ing this game so far, that makes me pretty fucking hype.
>>317326920
Yeah. Pretty much.
And I do think that if it was ye old olden days, Nintendo would have made Bayonetta get censored or not put it on its console. Or Binding of Isaac, for that matter.
I think the story- even the religious tones- will be in tact. I'm willing to eat my words if I'm wrong.
>>317327072
>There's enough of that in Xenogears.
As A Rope of Robots put it
"in Japan, Soylent Green is probably a pretty obscure movie, but in the west the twist is what 99% of people who have never seen the movie know about it. The translators could have made it still a surprise by renaming the Soylent System.....anything other than the Soylent System"
>>317326131
>People like me are legitimately upset that NoA/8-4 took it upon themselves to remove shit because it makes them uncomfortable
>you'll shitpost about it and indirectly falseflag those people
Please just leave. You're wasting your time more so than people normally do on 4chan.
And to others out there: If what they changed/removed doesn't affect you, then just buy it and enjoy it. No stopping you. But if the censorship bothers you as much as me, then can I suggest just buying a used copy? No fucking way am I not going to play this game just for that, but I have the perfect choice so I can enjoy what's there without supporting shit localization.
To be more on topic:
I fucking started emulating Xenoblade ever since an anon in an older thread suggested it when asking about playing either the Wii or n3DS version, This shit is pretty and it's really nice playing with my headphones and 360 controller.I also started to play the 3ds version though. It's the comfiest thing to play in bed before I sleep, despite playing the same sections I've played on PC a second time. Maybe I'll do screenshots of both versions in the same locations just for kicks.
>>317326815
She says so in the game, besides what reason would a potato have for lying?
>>317327181
Yeah I'm getting it used. Feels like rewarding bad behavior on Nintendo's part if I get it new.
