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Only 2 weeks left.
Are you hyped yet, or still complaining about ">NOT MUH TTYD AND PM64"?
>>317257024
I don't really care about these spin off games.
Loved TTYD though.
>>317257257
>these spin off games
>>317257257
I bet you think super paper mario was a spinoff too
>>317257024
>hyped
Do people still get hyped about things?
>>317257381
not everyone is dead insideI'm sorry anon
Not really. I'll probably pick it up when it's 2.99 Like the other paper mario.
>you will never see a new mainline Paper Mario with RPG mechanics
>>317257381
>look at me, I'm so cool and jaded!
I have the feeling Bowser's Castle is going to be the midway point with Peach's Castle being the final dungeon, again.
>Tutorials can now be skipped
Already a better game than the previous ones
I'm optimistic about it
>>317257024
Nope
Still want a proper PM
>>317257464
>Nintendo game
>Mario game
>2.99
What?
Only if it's not piss easy like the last M&L
Mario&Luigi : series is still good. -1-
Paper Mario : series has gone to shit -0-
Mix the two : -0.5-
A game that is not good neither bad, just meh ok.
No reason for the hype.
Same time as XBcX? Ill get it eventually.
>>317257707
Dream Team was the hardest in the series, what are you on about?
>>317257798
I literally didn't die once without even trying
Though it was in normal mode because I sure as heck had no intention to replay it afterwards
>>317257024
>">NOT MUH TTYD AND PM64"
Are you ready to fight all 7 of them at the same time?
>>317257798
> implying any Mario Rpg I'd harder than Partners in Time
>>317257941
I didn't die in the old games either.
But many enemies attacks are honestly really hard to avoid in DT.
And in hard mode, most bosses can kill you with one or two hits.
>>317257750
That would make sense if the game was codeveloped by IS.
But this is just M&L5 from Alphadream.
I dislike the white outline on paper characters. In fact, I think it is a bad design choice and that the game would be better without them
>>317258557
It's necessary to show when a paper character is using the stacking mechanic.
>>317258557
From a design standpoint, it shows the characters as cutouts/stickers, reflecting their paper nature
Without it they would look just like 2d sprites
I guess it's not really needed since they fold and shit, looking like paper anyways but I guess they want them to stand out from regular character sprites
I thought this shit was coming out in January. That's what the site says.
>>317259158
Only for burgers.
>>317257947
I hope they actually talk this time but that picture is making me doubt it
>>317259158
Yurop and Nippon get it in 2 weeks.
>>317257024
>Those graphics
Holy fucking shit, I though it's 2015 not 2002
>>317257024
>shitter shart
Japanese trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ECx7_aOsYaU
Yeah it looks fun
>>317257441
DrREKT
>>317259365
>hating on M&L visuals
Jesus.
>>317257024
Is Mario RPG's Lightning back again?
>>317257589
Source?
>>317259583
She's back. Seems as good as she is in any other game.
>>317259583
u know it
>>317258065
>Bosses have quadrupled health
>hard
>>317257024
>Only 2 weeks left
See you in over a month.
>>317259583Why is she so sexy?
>papercraft Mario
>papercraft Luigi
>papercraft Yoshi
I wonder how is this gonna work.
Have they different stats, equipment or something? Can they be customized?
>>317259886
Snarky naked chick only wearing a pair of shoes.
>>317257024
It's a Mario and Luigi game, not a Paper Mario game. I don't care that it isn't like TTYD and PM64. However I am disappointed that they're using the bare minimum from the Paper Mario series in it (SS only) which completely misses the point of a crossover in the first place.
>>317257024
>Sticker Star sucked dick
>haven't played Dream Team but heard pretty mixed things about it
It at least looks better than SS, but it still doesn't look very interesting.
Maybe I'll pirate it.
>>317259384
The only interesting enemies SS brought back are in, good.
Hope Gooper Blooper is in too, fighting him M&L style would be crazy.
>>317257024
I got no time for this I'm still playing BiS
>>317257706
Nintendo games get thrown in the bargain bin only when their especially shitty.
You can get Sticker Star and Other M for like $5 each.
>>317257257
It's the next Mario & Luigi installment.
>>317257024
Why do these game always come out a month later for US? Does it really take weeks for Bihldorff to add all the memes?
>>317260376
They probably don't want it competing with...
uh
>>317260376
>Bihldorff
He's still working there?
>>317260337
Sticker Star is still 35€ here.
>>317260502
Xenoblade Chronicles X.
Quick, /v/, make up a gimmick for the next M&L game
>Mario uses FLUDD
>Luigi uses the Poltergust
>The baddies are garbage/pollution/global warming type shit
>Mario & Luigi: Clean Freaks
>>317257947
Paper mario looks like such a third wheel.
>>317260598
MOTHER
FUCKING
WARIO
>>317260598
add Wario and Waluigi somehow too
>>317260376
It's like they think the world is still disconnected and we won't notice because there's no way we could possibly know that we're getting it later than everyone else.
I'm only not hyped because I'm pretty sure it's a sign that we are never getting another proper PM game. M&L games are good, though, so I'll probably end up buying it eventually.
>>317260725
>>317260730
Why the fuck doesn't Nintendo ever do anything with Waluigi?
Does shiggy hate him? I hear that fag can be pretty whitewash when it comes to Mario
Where is the Wii U PM game? Did SS really kill the franchise that hard? This game looks fine and I do like M&L, but I still want a proper PM.
>>317260983
Not created by him, same with daisy
also, I think daisy creator is dead or something
>>317260983
They just don't care about him at all. They really have no obligation to either, he's not inherently interesting. We're long past the era when every single Mario character could get and then carry their own series.
>>317257024
>releases December 4th for europs
>Americans have to wait until late January
what the fuck man, they did this same shit with wooly world
>>317260598
>It's Mario & Luigi & NES Mario
>Luigi accidentally pulls out the SMB cartridge before turning the game off
>Everyone's NES counterparts except Luigi are now in their world
>NES Bowser captures NES Peach, etc.
>You can use NES Mario's powers to enter holes shaped like his sprite
>Sprixie Princess makes an appearance as a side character
>NES mario can only take 1 hit unless you hit the Super Mushroom block to make him bigger
>Mario & Luigi: 8-bit Piece of Shit
>>317257024
looks like shit, and after seeing what intelligent did with sticker star and #fe, i'd wager that it will be.
>>317261173
It's just one month, Woolly World was five. If anything it's exactly like Dream Team.
>>317261217
IS isn't working on this game.
>>317261217
Intelligent is not making this senpai
>>317261217
>Intelligent Systems
>developing this game or #FE
2/10, made me reply.
>>317261217
It's not made by Intelligent Systems. It's made by AlphaDream. You know, the M&L developer.
>>317260598
>Bowser and j.r. decide to switch body's with Mario and Luigi with some crazy magic shit from kamek. thinking it will give them a edge.
>Mario and Luigi Koopa troublesWario and Waluigi are behind it all and are the final boss fight
>>317257024
I just miss Paper Luigi.
Like, its like they intentionally left him out because its a running gag in the actual Paper Mario series that he gets left behind. I get why they did it, I do. But can't a guy still dream?
I still think about that "adventure" he had in TTYD that could imo be made into another game. I'd play it. Sadly, it'll never happen. If it didn't happen during "The Year of Luigi" then it will never happen.
>>317261594
Looking for him is apparently part of the plot
>>317261594
He'll probably show it up at some point.
>>317261594
I guarantee you, Paper Luigi will show up in some way.
>>317261594
>I get why they did it
You're thinking way too deep into it. If he's not in it, it's simply because they don't care.
>>317260725
>>317260730
>>317261402
>Wario will never ever be a fat greedy strongman ever again
>He's permanently stuck as le gross fart microgame host that hardly stars him
Like fuck the micro game shit doesn't even need Wario in it.
>>317261294
Well why do we have to wait? If the game releases in the UK, and is in English, what the fuck are they making us wait an extra month for?
>>317261668
>>317261675
>>317261679
Yeah but for once I wanted him to be a part of the adventure.
I get why he isn't though, and this is the first I'm hearing of him possibly being in the game at all so that makes me pretty happy. Thanks anons.
>>317261594
I like that Luigi became an actual character in the other games with his own little side story, so it was kind of stupid to see him as a tiny easter egg in SS. It doesn't look like he'll be in this game but who knows.
>>317259758
Could be worse, we could've gotten it in February.
>>317261796
Memes
>>317261754
You're probably right.
It's just, there'd really be no reason not to have PL be playable if that's the case.
Reminder that they remixed SS's battle theme.
>>317261796
Marketing. The EU is getting Yokai Watch and Pokémon SMD at the start of 2016 instead, releasing too many games too close to each other hurts sales.
>>317261801
Paper Mario confused Luigi for Paper Luigi according to Starlow, and since everything* in the book got spewed out, he'll probably turn up later on.
Eh, I'll pirate it. It's a letdown that they took the concept of the crossover and ran with it in the most safe, predictable way possible, but who knows maybe the game will be okay.
>>317257024
I still haven't even finished SSS yet. Got kinda bored with the whole go collect the pieces of the beanstar thing. Only got the first one.
Where's the full ripped OST?
>>317257024
But it isn't a Paper Mario game. It's a Mario and Luigi game. I just hope it's as good as Dream Team, but with better pacing. That game was way too long.
>>317262267
in 2 weeks
>>317261179
>Luigi magically acquires the characteristics he had in Lost Levels througout the game
>jumps higher than the stratosphere
>kills every enemy with his slowing down animation
>he's the secret boss of the gameI actually beat LL in that fucking mode
>>317260805
It's only a sign that Nintendo are cheap fucks and wanted to make some more money from those SS assetts.
>>317262857
Paper Luigi was eldritch tier in Super Paper Mario.
>has a heart made of pure evil
>gets turned into a superweapon to fight the chosen heroes and help destroy all of the multiverse
>makes robits
>>317262314
already guaranteed this will be the case due to Paper Jam having skippable tutorials
So what other enemies do you guys want to see make an appearance? Besides Motley for cool boss reasons, I want to see the Hucket Crabs.
A lot of games reuse assets in general. This isn't new for Nintendo.
>>317261048
Blame Iwata for forcing Sticker Star on the 3DS because the system was sinking.
Now that IS is done with FE for another 3 years however, there's a chance they'll work on the next PM for NX.
>>317263243
Can't Germany tell us everything about the game already?
>>317263353
euro bros pls make sure to tell us americabros how good the game is, i'm really looking forward to this and want it to be good
>>317263461
Streamers got shut down
>>317263243
>>317263501
Nothing's stopping them from posting here.
>>317263243
King Boo
Gooper Blooper
Goomboss
King Womp
Someone from SMB2
>>317263242
It's not just the tutorials, though. The game was long. I felt like I should have been getting near the end, and still had another chapter to do. I'm not saying I want less, but what was there was drawn out a bit too much. Stuff got a little repetitive.
>>317263243
Anything but Petey Piranha but he'll probably show up anyway.
>>317263747
They already showed him dude.
It was even posted in this thread.
>>317263473
I'll try my best, but
>game comes out on the same day as goddamn Xenoblade X
It'll be hard to balance them both.
>>317263747
he's the first boss lmoa
>>317263849
>>317263949
Well that's my fault for skimming the thread. Why is he in every game, he's not that interesting and I'd rather see Gooper Blooper or something.
>>317263243
These fuckers.
>>317264172
I think Gooper Blooper will show up. He was in Sticker Star and they're already shown Petey Piranha and Tower Power Pokey which were in it.
>>317264172
He's a tradition of the series, like Wiggler.
>Koopalings
>Giant Luigi Bros attack
>SSS remix for battles
>Paper abilities in the field
>Dat Kamek / Paper Kamek battle
>Nabbit
Honestly all this game needs is the Massif Bros and a fight against Poppel and Nabbit and it'll be GOAT.
>>317264172
Isn't he just in Partners in Time? I want to see if a Wiggler of some kind is in this game.
>>317263747
How could you hate on Petey, he's a survivor. Made it to so many spin-offs when he could have fallen to obscurity like so many other bosses.
Anyways I also want to see Spindrift, I bet most don't even know where she's from.
>>317264112
M&L will be ~40 hours long.
Xeno 200+ hours
Better finish Paper Jam first, then move to Xeno.
>>317264858
Superstar Saga had his little cousin.
>>317264959
Who?
>>317264959
It's in your filename, senpai.
>>317265113
That guy's pathetic compared to Petey.
>>317261594
I'll never stop saying this: Give us Luigi vs Mr. L. This is the one game where that would make sense without bending over backwards to justify it.
>>317260598
M&L&Peach
M&L&Yoshi
M&L&Wario&Waluigi
M&L&Bowser for real this time
>>317265362
Peach and Daisy.
>>317263536
excellent taste my friend.
Skeeters better show up too, make hard enemies with hard tells, their perfect for it.
>>317265410
No just Peach.
Actually, Peach and Rosalina could work.
>>317265265
And yet >>317265230 still couldn't figure it out
>>317257024
B-BUT NOT MUH TTYD OR PM64!
Seriously though, I like Paper Mario more than Mari & Luigi. Makes me sad the series is pushed aside.
>>317257024
Mario RPGs are my jam. Timed hits are just so fucking fun and satisfying to land FFFFUCK why don't more games do this.
Zero hype for the game but I'll pick it up anyway just because I enjoy Mario RPG games. I just hope the game isn't drowning in tutorials.
>tfw no wiiu port even though it wouldn't be that much more work
>tfw will just end up paying 5 bucks on the VC shop to play it on my NX U anyway
also the papercraft mech fight thing looks stupid
>>317266185
it won't, they were very clear about being able to skip them.
>>317266223
Buy a 3DS, nigger. Bestand only not disappointingcurrent gen system by far.
>>317266223
you look stupid t'bh
>>317260374
It's actually not, though. It's not numbered.
>>317266420
>spoiler
I used to have one, I sold it while it was still worth something since I realized I couldn't keep up with constant upgrades for it they push out
also hated the tiny screen, but I realize that isn't a reason not to get one now
but anywayit was still kinda disappointing compared to the DS for me
>>317257578
>Get to Bowser's Castle
>Beat the crap out of Bowser and Paper Bowser
>Paper Characters return to the book
>The normal characters also get sucked into the book
>Second half of the game starts
I am hoping we'll be able to travel into the book at some point, it's been a staple since PiT to travel between two separate worlds:
Pit: Past <-> Present
BIS: Normal World <-> Bowser's body
DT: Normal World <-> Dream World
>>317267098
Just watch while they turn the book into2D platforminglike the last two games.
>>317267667
>Mario Story world is 2D platforming
How to be an instant 0/10
They'd better not fucking do that.
>>317267853
Considering the fact the last two did it, and it being thematically appropriate, if they go into the book, I won't be surprised.I don't know if they'd go in the book at all, though. It's not like the real world can infringe on the book in the same way.
>>317265410
>>317265602
No, just Peach. Unless they go to Sarasaland and/or Rosalina's Observatory.
Fuck, Sarasaland would be great in a Mario RPG, now that I think about it.
>>317268236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDNr5XGygk
>>317269385
Aw poor Mario, he looks so out of place. Like, inappropriately so.
>>317269825
That's kind of the point. He was ripped out of his world.
>>317270168
I know, it's sad.
>>317270259
He's not the sad one. The paper Toads are scattered around the world, lost, scared, and defenseless.
Superstar Saga is still the best.
>>317263243
I'd love to see Bouldergeist. His mechanics from Galaxy would work great for an RPG.
>have to shatter his rock armor to expose his true form
>stalagmites you have to jump to avoid
>rocks you need to hammer away
>at half health he spawns his hands that you need to destroy before you can target his body again
>hands have a powerful punch and a slam attack
>Bomb Boos appear sometimes that you either have to destroy or can send into Bouldergeist to damage his armor
Plus we could get the awesome Bouldergeist/Kingfin boss theme again.
>>317259583
She's better than the briefcase.
>>317271887
>dream team exists
even partners in time was better
>>317271887
It's the best Mario & Luigi, yes.
>>317271887
Map:
SSS > PiT >DT >>> BIS
Overworld
DT >SSS >BIS >>>>>>>>>>>>PiT
Battle
DT >BIS >SSS >>> PiT
Bro Attacks
SSS > DT > PiT > BIS
>>317271965
The enemies from Galaxy are completely ignored for some reason, compared to every other 3D Mario game.
>>317271982
>Back to adventure!
Eh. Stuffwell is alright.
>>317272497
even secondhand originality is verboten
>>317272160
Shit opinion bro.
>>317272741
you too, mi familia
the entire dt story was a shitty tutorial
>>317259583
>>317271982
>>317272527
You know who was better than Starlow and Stuffwell? The little guy who followed you around, held your hand, and explained everything in Superstar Saga. Who was that again?
>>317272943
Well memed friend.
>>317273062
shit taste breeds shit posts, I see
fuck off
>>317273062
>>317273123
You're both grounded, go to your rooms and play that one Mario RPG that you haven't played yet.
>>317273018
Uhhh
I forgot
>>317266493
nice bait m8
>>317273018
100% why Superstar Saga is the best.
>>317273123
Sorry, it's my duty to correct your retarded opinion.
The fact that it's being developed by the M&L team and not the Paper Mario Team is a pretty good sign.
Game looks fairly fun. The giant Mario tank battle look awesome. The minigames they've shown look promising.
My biggest issue with it is it looks like "New Super Mario and Luigi" in terms of environments (grass world, dessert world, etc) but that's forgivable and I won't form and opinion until I see how the actual level design is.
My biggest hope is that they don't ditch the fun stories the Mario rpg's have like they did with Sticker Star. As long as they have that it'll probably turn out ok.
I'm cautiously hyped
>>317273815
There still seems to be a lot of character interaction at the very least, something that Sticker Star had very little of.
>>317274002
Yeah the whole "only use familiar characters and locations" rule is really disappointing compared to what Superstar Saga did, but at least this games seems to be running with that in a more interesting way than Sticker Star.
>>317271887
>building spirit bombs to drop on shy guys
Partners in Time is my favorite.Its also the only one Ive played.
>>317274472
obviously you know this, but play superstar saga is like a more fun version of PiT, unlike DT and BiS which feel kind of different
you owe it to yourself
>>317273018
Every other character in Superstar Saga? It's not like SS didn't have characters explain things, they just didn't have one dedicated to substituting for Mario and Luigi's dialog.
>>317274137
>Both Bowsers do not get along at all.
I can't wait for their banter.
>>317274137
The amount of Mario stuff they're pulling in is ridiculous. It's a love letter to the franchise, not just the RPGs.
>>317275212
Exactly, it all happened in the context of the scenes and the story. It wasn't one concentrated, designated "tutorial/exposition" guy.
>>317275245
Bowser may get mad at Mario for ruining his plots, but the only person Bowser truly hates is himself.
>>317273018
The billion convienent sets of siblings that populated the world.
>>317275746
Nah, they just teach you new overworld moves. They're not exposition fairies.
>>317275375
This. also I loved how you met other couples of siblings who taught you the techniques. Now it's just "look for the attack pieces and suddenly learn these attacks"
>>317275936
>This shit is unacceptable
>Except in this case because I actually enjoy the game the most
Hypocrites
>>317272284
Bros. attacks should be
SSS > BIS > DT > PiT
and I'd say DT and SSS overworld are about equally great for different reasons.
Bretty gud rankings though
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE LEAK THE GAME'S SOUNDTRACK SO I CAN HEAR THE MUSICAL GODDESS YOKO SHIMOMURA'S PIECES FOR THIS GAME
>>317276626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiMwiBYg_jo
the german adds flavor
>>317276495
For BIS I considered Bowser's special attacks too, which were a chore since they forced you to pick up the stylo all the times.
>>317276431
Elaborate your thinking behind this. How are people throughout the world teaching Mario and Luigi new moves anything like a mouthy little companion that follows them around, speaking on their behalf like they're pokemon, and explaining the plot at every turn? As opposed to Mario and Luigi miming things out on their own like the first game.Why shit on older, acclaimed games that you haven't played, what's the logic behind this?
>Decide to start playing Dream Team Bros again
>It's not as bad as people say it is
Looks pretty good from what I've seen.
I still don't see why in the hell they couldn't have just given us one or the other instead of this weird crossover though.
I mean, combine the styles or something sure, but this is just weird and not really rewarding to fans.
>>317276780
I'd say those are still better than a lot of Dream Team's, which uses gyro all too frequently and features ridiculously long shit like the Zeekeeper Egg one. Plus that surfboard one is garbage (though I say that mostly because my reaction time belongs in the trash as well)
>>317276950
People say it's bad? At worst I've heard that the overworld was meh and the tutorials are more aggressive than usual.
>implying Sticker Star isn't the only legitmately bad Mario RPG.
We should be fine
I don't get why people disliked PiT. But hey I respect different opinions
>>317277098
I know for a fact that gigi digi is not a big fan of it.
>like these games
>but super young
>get stuck on Queen Bean in Superstar Saga
I'm sure I could beat it now that I'm older, but my young casual self got stuck on that shit.
>>317277251
who cares about what she thinks
>>317277098
It was more of a Paper Mario situation, where the last game was considered the best in the series, but Dream Team wasn't as good as it.
>>317277232
It's definately the weakest in the series, but it's still a good game
>>317277371
I do.
Her comics are alright
>>317276832
Not him but they still have characters that still teach the characters moves. Massif Bros in DT.
>tfw there will never be a Wario and Waluigi RPG
>tfw there will never be a Mario and Luigi RPG with Wario and Waluigi as reoccurring rivals
>>317277395
>Bowser's Inside Story
>Better than Superstar Saga
What are you smoking?
>>317276950
It's my favorite one.
And I find really annoying that people only seem to care about the tutorials, and disregard everything good about the game.
>>317276832
I have played every M&L game you fag, having to do a tutorial every fucking move you gained was just as annoying in SSS as the tutorials were in DT.
Except I'm not an ADD riddled faggot who keeps blowing shit outta proportion while ignoring that its an issue throughout the series.
I mean, how does being expositioned by a red and green faggot duo that I'm never going to see ever again any better than being expositioned by a recurring character that's with me throughout the game?
>>317277260
If I try this game again, what should I keep in mind for Queen Bean?
>>317257024
Oddly hyped about it, a lot moreso than Dream Team Bros
>>317260598
>Quick, /v/, make up a gimmick for the next M&L game
How about being a good game again? There hasn't been a good M&L since Superstar Saga.
>>317277751
Nice shit taste anon
>>317277138
Ummm, this game was even worse.
>shitty puke graphics
>bland music
>OCs that dont fit the tone of Mario
>generic "bowser kidnaps peach" plot
>partners are literally OCs
>>317277606
but anon, the tutorials hamper a huge part of the game. Its not something you can easily ignore especially on subsequent playthroughs
Besides, Dream Team didn't do anything that Superstar Saga or Bowser's Inside Story did better.
>>317277050
To be fair only 4 out of 15 use the gyro.
Also I really like most of the Dreamy Luigi attacks.
Didn't DT get an update that let's you skip the tutorials?
I've seen it brought up a few times. Whoever was talking about it may of been full of shit
>>317277910
>the tutorials hamper a huge part of the game.
Anyone who says this while ignoring the fact that every M&L game had annoying tutorials is either a faggot or a drone repeating epin memes for /v/ cred.
>>317277628
They don't provide exposition, the story just unfolds. Those guys only teach moves and provide more interesting locations and atmosphere.
>>317278074
they were full of shit the patch was only to fix a bug in the antasma fight
>>317277665
Attack the hands to get rid of the crown
The single hand attack is faster
Try not to land on the beans
Once you get Bro moves, spam Splash Bros. to get the advance which does double damage to spiked enemies (i.e. Queen Bean wearing her crown)
>>317277751
Bowser's Inside Story was pretty good, anon.
>>317277628
Superstar Saga had a tutorial for ever new overworld move, yes, but Dream Team had a tutorial for EVERY new mechanic in the dream world. Instead of letting you experiment, it fucking holds your hand and tells you the obvious.
In Superstar Saga there was no tutorial for
>learning how to fill mario up with water or how to make him spit out in different ways
>learning how to make luigi enter barrels
>learning how small mario can get things from underground
>learning how luigi can turn into a surfboard
and A LOT more. There were only tutorials when absolutely neccessary.Stop being so mad, anon
>>317278098
The tutorials in Dream Team take up the most time. If you're refuting that, prove me wrong.
>>317277138I really liked it
I don't care for the Mario & Luigi RPGs.
It's not a Paper Mario game.
No.
>>317277232
Many nonsensical design decision, like getting rid of the connected overworld for a hub, or making the bros attacks items.
Also it's extremely short and the writing is weaker than usual.
>>317277232
>But hey I respect different opinions
You shouldn't have to state this anon.
>>317277138
It's not legitimately bad though. It's better than SPM.
>>317277445
Okay.
Shut up then, idiot.
>beat the two Bowsers
>they drop the book
>screen pans away from them as the princesses walk in or whatever
>minor dialogue
>screen pans back up, book is gone
>[confusion sound effects]>I'll be taking that, see?
>>317278324
That's fine but out of curiosity, why?
>>317278456
That one doesn't really count due to not being an rpg.
>>317278554
I don't get it
>>317278571
I just can't get into them. I feel they don't have the same charm Paper Mario and TTYD had. I kind of liked Bowsers Inside Story but that was it.
I don't care for Nintendo dragging Paper Marios corpse around like they have been for the past decade.
>>317278456
>Better than SPM
>Best written Mario RPG
That alone makes it better than shitter star
>>317277910
DT has better combat, better 2D sections, better giant battles, better level design, better OST.
BIS is just nothing special as a whole, I don't know why it's so overrated.
>>317278554
For the life of me I can't remember, who is it?
>>317278554
>this happens
>they still don't bring his theme back
>>317278695
Dry donkey kong from superstar saga shows up and steals the book and the other half of the game is doing that one barrel minigame in order to get it back
>>317278801
>I feel they don't have the same charm Paper Mario and TTYD had.
That's because they have the same charm Super Mario RPG had.
>>317278235
The tutorials take more than 30 hours?
Why do you feel the need to shitpost?
>>317277543
The problem with that idea is Walugi: who is not allowed to be in anything that is not sports and racing.
>>317273284
What? It's actually not numbered, and all four previous ones were.
>>317278814
>DT has better combat
I disagree The combat in M&L games have been getting more and more gimmick-y as time goes on and DT has the most gimmick-y ones yet, especially with the bros move minigames getting longer and longer
>better OST
nigga the OST for BIS was amazing, especially the final boss, dunno what you're smoking.
>better 2d sections
The 2D sections in DT were also extreely gimmicky, having you play with luigi's face a ton in order to do anything. BIS had more traditional platforming sections, just placed in bowser's body
It's an unpopular opinion, but I dislike DT more than PiT, it was just soul crushingly bland and disappointing.
>>317277251
GigiDigi also got triggered by Robin in Ace Attorney Dual Destinies completely missing the point of her character. She's not the end-all of taste.
>>317277232
Lack of side stuff
The "puzzles" involving techniques like baby cakes was padding
Lot of people didn't like the final boss
I still rather enjoyed it
>>317278810
SPM isn't fun to play though. It's not fun to have a platformer with a shitload of cutscenes or the entire chapter dealing with hell.
>I have a good idea! Lets have the player fight a bunch of samey fights in a row, all with cutscenes, and then have then walk a LONG distance in a blank white area.
>>317278993
The most time compared to tutorials in other Mario RPGs, not the majority of Dream Team you blithering idiot.
>>317279310
>and then have then walk a LONG distance in a blank white area.
That's what Dashell is for.
>>317279334
Not that anon, but DT is also more than twice as long as any other M&L and has a ton more mechanics in general.
>>317279445
It has about as many mechanics as its predecessors.
>>317279089
When you call every gameplay mechanic you don't like a gimmick you just make unpleasant to discuss.
Moving around during dream battle is a gimmick? Enemy mobs are gimmicks? Background enemies are a gimmick? The most creative attack patterns are a gimmick? All the mechanics that make 2D sections unique and varied are gimmicks?
>>317279663
predecessor*
>>317279663
Wrong.
When you consider Dreamy Luigi, it has more than double the mechanics of the old games. And they're much more complex to use too.
>>317279865
>Moving around during dream battle is a gimmick? Enemy mobs are gimmicks? Background enemies are a gimmick?
Those are fine, more or less, but I talking more about bros moves since that's you're going to be using most of the time. They're these long ass minigames that involve tilting the 3DS around and other bullshit and just doesn't feel as fun, quick, or clean as the original bros moves from Superstar Saga.
>All the mechanics that make 2D sections unique and varied are gimmicks?
you can make 2D environments unique without having to tickle luigi's dick every 5 seconds to change the state of the level.
>>317280324
Bowser, though
>>317278915
>dry donkey kong
you better be memeing kid he's talking about popple
>>317277487
They don't teach you shit.
>>317280681
they teach you the high jump, drill bros move, and spin bros move.
>>317280681
Spin Jump, Ball Bounce, and Drill
>>317280638
Of course he is.
>>317257798
M8, even Hard Mode is fucking easy.
>>317257947
it looks like someone poorly photoshopped paper mario into the picture
>>317280771
>>317280841
Oh yeah I was wrong, I forgot. Sorry anon.
>>317280387
Only 4 attacks out of 15 require the gyro. And the only one that is considerably long is the final Luigi one.
Do you want to talk about the special Bowser's attacks instead, that forced you to pick up the stylo every single time?
As for the 2D sections, there is not much more you can do to make platforming interesting with mechanics as barebones as those of an RPG.
The stage hazards were perfect to spice things up, and activating them with the touch screen was a fine choice since the bottons were already occupied and you need to have access to them at any time.
>>317281185
>Do you want to talk about the special Bowser's attacks instead, that forced you to pick up the stylo every single time?
>not holding the stylus between your index finger and middle finger as you play
I don't mind gyro, but stylus shit was much more smooth.
>>317280934
It really isn't.
Beating the boss rush in the arena was a real bitch.
Did you cheese the game with those OP invincibility badges by any chance?
>>317281473
>tilting the DS a little is more intrusive than keeping a stick in your hand all the time you are playing
Nah.
>>317272249
How does an SMRPG map take eight years to finish?
>playing 2015 nintendo games
Just skip it this year, dude. Wait for NX maybe. They're lost.
>>317282074
Its not like there will be retrocompatibility, right?
>>317280934
It's still by far the hardest in the series. The only 'difficult' part in any previous game is the cheap-ass shit they pull on you at the start of the Cackletta's Soul battle if you're slower than her.
Now see, this is what I'd call a gimmick.
A section that has fuckall to do with the test of the game's gameplay and serves no real purpose.
BIS was full with shitty minigames like this
>>317263243
Ka-bombs baby!
>Unlike Sticker Star, where the entire game design and gameplay were butchered, Paper Jam upgrades the Mario and Luigi formula with 3 Man gameplay with Paper Mario who flutter jumps and blocks
>We are getting more enemies from the series that haven't debuted like Bittybugs, Chargin Chucks, and Ant Troopers(which are technically considered new at this point) and King Bob-Omb
>Paper Bowser has his TTYD/SPM personality
>Papercraft Mario, Yoshi and Luigi
>Fireball Bros Moves goes back to rapid tapping mode rather than the garbage slow as fuck movement DT did
>There's a bros move that uses Giant Luigi
>The sprites and graphics are less blurry and more cleaner, especially with the Paper Mario World artstyle
>Mario and Luigi have new more goofy SSS-esque animations
>SSS battle remix pre-Paper Mario
>Literally the best scenario for a standard Bowser Plot
I'm hyped as fuck, it just sucks I have to wait a month a week
But fuck it, better January than Spring
>>317282998
You mean his SMRPG/PM/TTYD/SPM personality
>>317279334
Dude...
I wonder if Rosalina will finally make her Mario & Luigi debut. If she does then I hope she actually has some sort of purpose.
>>317284815
No space involvement, no roster to fill, no Rosalina.
>>317284815
You can't really just use her unless the plot revolves around her in some way, and she can't obviously be a secret boss either. She's not like the Koopalings. Not happening.
>>317285415
Speaking about secret bosses, I hope the final fight of the arena is against Wario. Or DK.
>>317282998
>Bringing back SSS animations and battle style.
Yfw the final boss is paper Cackletta and Fawful with a remixed version of their themes.
>>317281848
>holding two of your fingers together is more intrusive than twisting your arms and wrists around
Nah.
>>317258557
It makes sense though.
This isn't the "paper world", they've literally been ripped out of it.
>>317258557
Yeah you're totally right. The way they turn and their shading style compared to their M&L counterparts is indication enough that they're flat.
>>317263243
The Broulder enemies from 3D World be a good fit.
>>317282074
This is a 3DS game you fuck
>>317281907
Good question.
>>317263243
We already have Ant Troopers
Hopefully we get a 3D World Boss
Hisocrat or Motely would be great
>>317289276
I think that Motley Bossblob is more likely because they could have a group boss battle, but I'll happily take either one.
>>317289417
That's most likely indeed
Especially given that Tower Pokey fights alongside an equally tall Regular M&L Pokey
Their boss battle is going to be pretty fun I imagine.
I just want Dimentio to make a return, just since he was a kickass villain. 1 collection of things was the only set of items that could stop him from destroying the omniverse. He had invincibility and a near perfect plan. He was actually so cunning I felt bad for him on the sheer basis that his plan was too good to fail.
I hope he comes back.
>>317292313
he's dead jim
>>317292313
Paper Mario plots are contained within themselves
They purposely made you feel unsettled after beating Dimentio
>>317292313
I like the fact fawful was more or less inspired by Dimentio
Fawful planned everything in advance regarding the dark star
Fucking perfectly
And he got what he wanted
Dreamy Bowser was arguably the best Bowser fight of YEARS
I wonder if Paper Jam can top it
>>317292571
Fawful came first though, and for most fans of the Mario & Luigi series it was much more satisfying to see him get his revenge in Bowser's Inside Story and nearly win than see Dimentio overtake Count Bleck in Super Paper Mario.
>>317292885
I meant the plot in BIS
Where he planned everything to go perfectly
Obviously Fawful was more satisfying cause he actually succeeded
>>317292689
I imagine it'll be some sort of crazy tag team match between the Bowsers and the brothers.
>>317295553
>>317292689
Bowser tends to use the gimmick the bros are against them when fighting him
He bros fight with Popple when he was rookie
He tag teams with Baby Bowser
Dark Bowser has Fawful in his stomach, and his fight/Arena Boss fight has him use his abilities
Dream Team has him act like Dreamy Luigi and go OP on your ass
The best bet is that he and Paper Bowser fight together using each other's advantage
It's gonna be more over the top though since Kamek already does it like >>317258439
and we can expect Bowser Jr's to do it too
>>317258557
They did it because everybody else already have the Black outline
Plus the white is supposed to symbolize when your fighting a stacked enemy
>>317296113
Maybe they'll use a Royal Sticker as well to power up? Tower Power Pokey has his.
>>317257578
DONT TOY WITH ME
>>317296113
Bowser using Paper Bowser as a mech
>>317257578
It's possible since the trailer are already showing Bowser's Castle
>again
I like it, it needs to be used more
>>317296486
Power Pokeu has it because it's the only indication that it's him
Then again Power Goomba appears as a Papercraft boss, so maybe your right
If they are gonna be pulling Royal Stickers they need to Atleast bring Gooper Blooper
>>317296634
It seems logical enough.
>Peach's Castle is it's own "area" despite being only 2 or so rooms big
>Bowser's Castle footage being shown in trailers, despite supposedly being endgame
>Kamek battle in the grasslands area where Mario and Luigi have endgame-tier stats
>every Mario and Luigi sans PIT have some sort of backtracking fetchquest to open the final area
Something I'm noticing in screenshots and trailers is that there is underground portions
Multiple underground portions
And that they aren't in the main world map
It seems the areas themselves are gonna have underground portions for like a second half maybe?
Quick reminder that best villain.
>>317297616
The underground portions are part of the desert area.
Reminder that Neo-Bowser Castle is the best Bowser Castle
>That music
>That Dreamworld music
>Those hard as fuck enemies
>The final Kamek fight with 4 of him
>>317298129
Except the underground portions of the desert world clearly has a sandy atmosphere
There is another one I don't have the image of just yet, that's clearly different with rock mines in the background and no sand, hinting the underground of the snow world
What's the best way to avoid spoilers of this game? Filters can work but most people will just post everything without words
I'm an Amerifat so I still have to wait a month
>>317297376
Peach's Castle is only 4 rooms big (plus the storage room) but there's a door you can't open, so it's clear that you're gonna go back there later on.
>>317299046
Just ignore threads like these
It's been working for me so far, only thing I've learnt so far is that the Koopalings are coming back
>>317299046
Leave
>>317298380
My nigga. Best final dungeon in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAwK_k9NCSw
>mfw this music starts playing
>>317299046
Just don't go into M&L threads. It's not like MGS or Fallout where people are going to post spoilers everywhere.
>>317299046
The best spoiler for me is to hear the music.
>>317297740
Agreed.
What's the point of collecting berries?
>>317301459
Lakitu Sidequest/Something to do with the Yoshis you see in the trailer.
>>317301459
Either a minigame or a sidequest
>>317263243
OFFICIAL ENEMY POWER RANKINGS
1. KOOPATROL
POWER GAP
999. ANYTHING ELSE
>>317297173
I mean two out of the six Royal Stickers have shown up. I wouldn't be surprised.
>>317257024
I was excited for this for a while, but I'm very skeptical now. I recently checked out the Mario & Luigi series and they're just not as good as the Paper Mario games.
We'll probably never get a good Mario RPG ever again, because people keep buying the fuck out of the shitty ones, rationalizing all the shitty spinoff games, and people aren't really demanding a full home console Mario RPG such as Super Mario RPG on the SNES, Paper Mario 64, or TTYD.
It's almost like bad consumer choices have negative consequences or something.
>>317304143
>I recently checked out the Mario & Luigi series and they're just not as good as the Paper Mario games.
What makes you say this? The M&L games are very solid, and at least the series is consistent with it's gameplay.
>>317259556
don't bite the bait, anon
>>317304289
I played Bowser's Inside story a while back actually, but it didn't grab me and keep me interested. I recently gave it another chance, and I see why I stopped playing it. I actually quit playing it again in that room where it just instantly gives you 10 puzzle pieces, all easily accessible and all in the same room. There's not even an enemy in that room, nor are there any kind of obstacles you have to try to avoid. No challenge at all. And I know that's near the beginning but other Mario RPGs don't do handholding, babymode bullshit like that.
I complained about this on /v/ and people recommended Superstar Saga, so I tried it out too. It was ok but it's nothing really impressive. I beat Dragohoho and I just kinda lost interest and quit playing.
>>317304406
I doubt it's bait. I don't like the M&L art style either. Honestly compare it to Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario and tell me it's as good as them.
>>317304864
its better
>>317304749
The games do get harder. Dream Team is the hardest in the series, and is the only Mario RPG with a hard mode (unlockable). BiS has an item that purposefully makes the game harder if you equip it.
>>317304749
how about finishing the games instead of fucking dropping them very early
>>317257024
Fucking ready
>>317304864
Are we really pretending SM RPG doesn't look fucking terrible?
>>317305217
It's not just the lack of challenge that bothered me. The games just aren't as interesting to me. SMRPG and the Paper Mario games really grabbed me and I feel like they made an effort to constantly make sure something interesting, fun, and full of variety was happening.
>>317305342
I finish most games that I start, and I'm very lenient and I try to appreciate whatever the devs were trying to do. I've beaten very many mainstream games, as well as many games that the average person wouldn't bother finishing (like Zelda 2). I even finish games that I don't like, such as Skyrim and Undertale.
So for me to drop a game, it must be pretty boring.
>>317279041
>Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
>Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
>Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
>Mario and Luigi Dream Team
>Mario and Luigi Paper Jam
I don't see any numbers.
>>317305846
Fuck you, it's one of the coolest and most charming art styles I can think of.
>>317306142
im the opposite to you i had to force my self to finish the paper mario games as i dropped them halfway through due to them being uninteresting and they never felt very engaging or exciting to me.
>>317306239
The problem with SM RPG is that half of everything is just bubbles overlapping heavily.
I mean, look at Bowser. His head is 5 green balls, 12 orange balls, and a black ball for the lower of the mouth in that pic.
>>317306228
He means the Japanese versions. The JP versions number them. Just off the top of my head:
>Mario & Luigi RPG!
>Mario & Luigi RPG 2X2!
>Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!!
>Mario & Luigi RPG 4! Dream Adventure!
>Mario & Luigi RPG! Paper Mario Mix!
>>317306552
The next one is gonna be called M&L RPG6 regardless.
>>317306552
Oh. He's one of those faggots.
I can forgive him for that then.
>>317307013
You don't know that.
>>317307075
He knows that it will as much as you know that it won't
>>317307261
Well then, I guess we'll see who's right anywhere around two to three years from now.
If Paper Jam is considered a spin-off that AlphaDream disassociates from M&L "canon", I'll have a slice of humble pie. If not you can rightfully say I was BTFO.
>>317282998
>Ant Troopers
L-like from Mario Land 2?
Holy shit please yes
>>317307493
3D World
>>317306446
I don't really consider that a "problem" per se. I think it looks cool.
The thing that bothers me about M&L's art style is the way Mario and Luigi's faces look. Compare pic related to this: >>317304289 They just look weird to me. Paper Mario can get away with it because they made a complete change. But to change something just slightly is sort of annoying for some reason.
>>317307579
I don't have a reaction image to properly express how disappointed I am
>>317303443
HEY MISTER
>>317306446
The renders are crap but they look great in-game
>>317307767
Ant Troopers are literally the ants from SML but with a decent design, who gives a fuck
>>317307782
>Watt was a girl
What did he mean by this?
>>317257024
>January 22 in US
>we get it after even fucking Australia
what the fuck NoA has been doing this for the last year or two and I don't understand. They delay the game for ages so they can add their shitty memes no one wants. Fucking why
>>317307986
The ants in SML had super cute faces and goofy arm movementsAnd I played a LOT of SML2 when I was a kid, so it's probably all just nostalgia talking
>>317257024
after the complete abominations that the past few games were, no. Starlow is also going to be in it, which instantly triggers me and is a major red flag.
>>317257024
I wasn't watching the German leak, how heavy are the tutorials?
>>317308165
I gotcha man, my bad. But for real you can just imagine them as the SML ants but in color.
>>317308289
Skippable, optional books
>>317259583
>interrupts gameplay literally every few seconds
>>317257024
>Use yourself from another dimension like a slave
This is a new definition of sadomasochism with self mutilation
Based alphadream, they're saving the paper mario series. I pray this game is closer to BiS instead of dream team. Dream team wasn't bad, but it just couldn't keep my interest. I dropped it after a few hours.
>>317261397
That doesn't matter. They made BIS, aka the worst M&L game.
>>317308395
Fucking nice, picking this shit up day one.
>>317297173
Gooper Blooper will definitely show up in the beach area
The question is whether it'll be M&L like Petey, or Sticker Star like Power PokeyBest case scenario being both of them
>>317308717
Dream Team was pretty much an improved BIS.
>>317308717
I disagree with your opinion about Dream Team
That being said, Dream Team had a lot of filler, a LOT of filler
So far Paper Jam is constantly using different gameplay mechanics without anything look like filler and stalling
So hopefully that makes it better for you
>>317278554
>Nabbit is already in the game.
>He is actuallyPopple's new "Rookie"
>>317309214
What filler?
>>317278226
For those things you listed, I remember being an idiot and trying to figure out what to do at those parts. But, instead of giving up like a faggot, I kept messing with stuff until I got it right. Figuring things out like that on my own felt extremely rewarding, and I believe it is something that is extremely ignored now, especially in Nintendo games. Stuff like that probably is the reason why when I have problems with things now that i'm older, I actually try solving the problem by messing with everything. I get asked for help from friends all the time in software and computers solely because they don't try experimenting or helping themselves.
>>317278226
>Bowser's Inside Story was pretty good
>>317309419
Someone claiming to have a German copy of the game says there's a Nabbit/Popple tagteam boss.
>>317309630
>there are people that believe in /v/ "leakers"
>>317309630
>Nabbit/Popple tagteam boss
>>317309214
That's what killed it for me. They did the right thing in dream team by making things feel interesting and new, like it not being the mushroom kingdom, (although BiS did the kingdom perfectly) but it felt really slow and thick with filler. I didn't want to spend so much time in one area for no interesting reason. Superstar saga had interesting reasons for you to go here or there, and the places were really interesting, but dream team was just kinda like, eh. Nothing really pushing creativity.
It's amazing how fast the plot kicks off in Paper Jam compared to Dream Team.
>>317310084
BIS had literally the worst version of the Mushroom Kingdom ever appeared in an RPG.
The only non generic area was terrible (the beach), and the rest was 80% grassy plains. I wish I was jocking. No desert, no snow, no volcano and the mountains area at the beginning is useless and extremely shorrt.
Dream team was only fun the first time around. Since the tutorials bring the game to a screeching hault its not enjoyable for a 2nd run. They'll do that shit with this game AND include sticker bullshit.
>>317259886
anon you're attracted to an emoticon. You need some help.
>>317310651
I enjoyed even more the second time, hard mode was really fun and challenging.
And tutorials are optional in PJ anyway.
>>317310651
Tutorials are confirmed to be skippable, optional-to-read books.
>>317310612
It's been a fucking while since I played, sorry about that. I must've mixed up some memories with paper mario. Inside bowser was pretty cool though.
>>317310651
WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
STTTTTIIIIIIIIICCCCCKKKKEEERR
SSSSSTTTTTTTAAAAAARRRRRR
>>317311079
I know you're shitpsoting but sticker star deserves all the shit it gets
>>317311191
But there's no reason to bring it up every time we talk about this M&L game.
>>317311013
Give me a valid source and I'll have a reason to play this.
>>317278801
fucking paper mario babbys who have only played TTYD when they were 10 years old shitting on every other mario rpg
>>317311706
>Can't get into something
>Shitting on it
Kindly learn how to read, retard.
The theory about Princess Peach's castle being the final area just makes more sense
I can see the scenario now
Your going through Bowser's castle but notice that it's been too quiet
Then you reach the top only to see that Bowser and Paper Bowser arent there and the Koopalings jump you
Then you continue on seeing the princessesOnly for it to turn out to be both kameks Cross-dressing
>>317309447
>>317309214
>>317310084
it wasnt a matter of the Dream Team's world being boring
Barely
It's places are interesting and fantastic
but the segments are really fucking long
Especially the dream segments
When i originally heard that you can fight the Elite Trio back in Dream Team, i thought that was cool but i didnt really think how they can pull off a good fight
But holy fucking shit was i wrong
Elite Trio was easily one of my favorite Boss fights in the entire series, shit was fun as fuck
Hopefully they can do the same with the Koopalings assuming you fight all 7 of them at the same time
>>317313589
The segments didn't feel very long.
Some of the gimmick didn't even have time to be used to their full potential. Like the time manipulator or the swimming.
>>317260598
I remember a little while before they first showed off this new game I had an idea that was the exact same concept but with Wario instead. There'd be a bunch of sections where they'd separate and you'd have to play as just wario or just the mario bros and the final fight would be some big doublecross where wario teams up with bowser or something, while it seems like paper mario sticks with you the whole game.
Here's some gameplay footage of some of the bros and trio's performed correctly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgOEYzmTIyA
That Kite move is fucking SAVAGE
>>317314662
Everyone wants Mario&Luigi&Wario.
How much longer is Nintendo gonna ignore us?
From Nintendaan's preview
>Luigi loses the book that contains the world of Paper Mario and it lands in the hands on Bowser's minions. Our green hero is very saddened and Paper Mario decides to cheer him up by allowing himself to be used as a napkin.
Fucking beautiful
Interesting thing about Battle Cards
You can only use them once per battle
That actually makes things a lot harder, since a complaint i originally had was that battle cards might be OP
But the fact that your only allowed to choose 1 per battle makes it a lot more interesting, especially during bossess
>>317314671
>P. Mario cheering the bros on
>>317314671
Brutal.
>Paper Mario cheering on the bros
Cute as fuck.
>>317316173
I thought this only applied to amiibo Battle Cards. If this is true then it will add a lot more importance to your choices.
>>317314671
That SMB theme remix is catchy as fuck. Yoko continues to be a goddess.
I'll pirate it.
They owe me after I bought DT.
>>317257024
>tfw Americluck
Go ahead, point and laugh at me. It's only fair after we got all those other games before Europe and we did the same.
Again, from Nintendaan's preview
>The good news is, at least for me, that the tutorials are relegated to text books that you can easily skip!
https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/hands-on-preview/41529/mario-n-luigi-paper-jam-bros-3ds-hands-on-preview
>>317314671
>That fucking Rocket
>Somebody holds the rocket
>They both jump on the opponent
>Whoever lands with the rocket gets to fly 360 and Crash land on the enemies
Fucking Perfect
>>317316719
Not gonna laugh, we've been getting a lot of games earlier than you guys, lately. The most notable example probably being Woolly World.
>>317314671
>The whole Kite attack
That's pretty genius with the whole ground sky separation separation.
>>317262995
They're called Chargin' Keks
I want to try guessing the area bosses of the game
So far
We know that M&L Petey is the Grassland Boss
The Desert Boss is Tower Power Pokey and a M&L Pokey that's equally tall, according to previews, the boss battle itself has the both of them support each other in various ways, like Paper Pokey shooting regular Pokey's body parts ricocheting everywhere
Forest is Unknown, any guesses?
Snow World seems to be King Bob-Omb, which is pretty nice to finally see him in an RPG
Beach is unknown as well, though the best guess is probably Gooper Blooper, which version is anybodies guess
Bowser's Castle seems to be the Koopalings since there are things hinting towards the final area being a Taken over Peach Castle
Of course this isnt assuming side boss battles that the series always does, but these area bossess will most likely be the main bosses for the Arena
>>317296113
Why is Paper Bowser so much cuter?
>>317317483
It's the puffy cheeks.
>>317315884
https://youtu.be/F6PE6Rv9u9Q?t=268
>Mario and Luigi first meet paper mario when being attacked by paper goombas
>He just smothers them with his body
>>317316553
Your making it sound like you didnt like dream team
That's a shame to hear
It was a fantastic game
>>317317584
I didn't hate it, but it was a step down from BiS.
>>317271887
BiS still has the best spritesOnly because of the idle animations being the best
>>317317390
I actually think that both versions of Petey and Gooper Blooper will appear in the game at different points. Aside from that, these are good guesses.
>>317317390
In Dream Team most areas had 2 bosses, one in the regular world and one in the dream world.
This will probably be the same since they already showed both Petey and Kamek for the grass area.
>>317317548
>Mario and Luigi get their ass kicked in by Sticker Star's Cartwheel Goomba
That's pretty fucking funny actually
>>317317665
Not really.
Combat was better, level design was better, 2D sections were better, and it got rid of those unsufferable mandatory minigames.
Also setting, OST and artstyle were better but that's more subjective.
>>317318473
Yes really.
>>317318530
not him but
SS > DT => BiS > PiT
>>317277487
>>317280841
>>317280771
I've always found it weird how they teach you all three at once, especially since for the Dreamy moves you learn them one at a time.
>>317318693
BiS > SS > DT > PiT
I literally cannot fathom why anyone would buy this garbage. It shits on everything that made the original 2 PMS great. Enjoy your mediocre gaming experience I guess
>>317318781
good ass joke
We've got King Bob-Omb and Petey Piranha, what are the chances of King Boo? (it doesn't even have to be Luigi's Mansion!King Boo, I'll settle for the staple Mario spin-off version.
How much dick would /v/ suck to get a paper Mario game as good as TTYD again?
Or at least something that isn't a cash grab?
>>317318798
Buttblasted PMfags will never cease being funny.
I'll enjoy the superior Mario RPG series while you keep crying, thanks.
>>317296113
>Paper Bowser still has his yellow horns/spikes from the yesteryear era after all this time
Makes you realize just how little the Paper designs have changed from the first game whereas M&L sprites are constantly changing every other game.
>>317318798
Because I like Mario and Luigi too. I can't wait to see Luigi get pissed off every time Paper Luigi comes on screen. There's got to be at least one of these.
>>317318998
Can we get Goomboss?
I mean he's actually BEEN in both mainline and spin-off Mario. If they're using King Bob-omb I'm assuming there's no boundaries.
>>317318839
Yours is even better.
>>317318798
This isn't Paper Mario you fucking retarded faggot cunt
It's a Mario and Luigi RPG game which is objectively superior to Paper Mario in gameplay, music, art direction, characters, writing etc
>>317317390
The brothers have crazy high stats in the king bob-omb footage so I'd assume there's more than one boss there. I don't know anything else that could fit in there though.
Forest seems like a good place to do the mandatory wiggler fight, maybe some shit from Paper Mario like the SPM plant people too.
Beach seems like a good place to do a bowser jr. team-up too.
Anything else is a gamble though, they don't seem too keen on having the bosses fit the setting all that well.
>>317319067
>suck a dick
>get a good paper mario game
where's the downside
>All 7 Koopalings fought at once
IM FUCKING READY
>>317316553
where did you find pic related?
>>317319210
>It's a Mario and Luigi RPG game which is objectively superior to Paper Mario in gameplay, music, art direction, characters, writing etc
Yeah except this game clearly lacks that parts of Mario and Luigi RPGs that are good like the unique characters and plots, and instead opts to replace it with the generic garbage that was Sticker Star.
They managed to take the worst aspects of both series instead of the best ones. It's just another generic "Bowser kidnaps Peach!" story with a million "here's an annoying minigame every ten steps to save a generic Paper Toad!"
It's going to be shit.
>>317319210
Funny, this doesn't look like a Mario and luigi game. Looks like two franchises put together for maximum profit because nintendo literally could not care less about either anymore.
>>317319375
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=47368119
We coulda had a Paper Mario on the Wii U. They fucked it up. HARD. In my opinion while this looks cool, it wasn't necessary.
>>317303443
lol that's what you think
>>317319654
Why is a Paper Mario on the Wii U considered "necessary"?
>>317318473
It was brought down by the 20 minute tutorials every time a tiny little mechanic was introduced.
Overview trailer for those whose still unimformed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECx7_aOsYaU
>>317319810
because he's a child who only wants to play the same thing he played on gamecube when he was a kid over and over again.
>>317319810
It would be better than this?
Something that fans would ACTUALLY FUCKING WANT.
>>317320085
PM is a lot more fucking niche than M&L, nigger.
>>317318798
It's a mario and luigi game you turd burglar
>>317319148
>I can't wait to see Luigi get pissed off every time Paper Luigi comes on screen
Why would he be? If anything I would think Paper Luigi would be jealous of real Luigi since Mario let him tag along for 4 adventures while the Paper Bros. have spent only 1/4th of an adventure together.
>>317319504
Except it looks like any other M&L game because it's made by the same people with the same artists add the same musician and the same dev team as the others, it has the same combat system and game progression, it has bros moves, it has mario characters and fun writing, you don't know fuck all about anything pmdrone
>>317319531
It looks like M&L game with Paper Mario as a guest star
Keep being the cunt in existence
>>317309630
>there's a Nabbit/Popple tagteam boss.
Don't be yankin' my chain like that
Don't be
>>317319504
>"here's an annoying minigame every ten steps to save a generic Paper Toad!"
>this is the kind of people who still exist
>>317319810
Basically because it's been over 11 years since the last great Paper Mario game.
Super wasfun, but completely changed the genre of the series, and started the slippery slope that doomed the series to never get reach the untapped potential of the system introduced in the first two games.
>>317320085
Fans want Mario and Luigi RPG, this is that
No one fucking cares about paper mario games
Fuck the entire reason paper mario is in this is to try and make paper mario more well known because Mario and Luigi RPG are bigger and better games
>>317319615
thanks, who is this artist?
>>317320085
Also, I'd like to add:
Because Sticker Star was sort of a bust?
>>317320085
>Something that fans would ACTUALLY FUCKING WANT.
Nigga, you need to take a step back and look around. You alone
>>317320467
No idea unfortunately.
>>317319851
I'd take 20 hours of tutorials over this shit.
>>317320085
those people will be happy with a vc release of TTYD, they will bitch about how a new game is "too different"
>>317320523
Meh.
>>317320630
>Id take tutorials over fun minigames
>>317320215
>using words like turd burglar
I Forget that I'm talking to children sometimes.
But
>defending half assed games
If this is a Mario and Luigi game then I'm not impressed by the series at all. It's depressing that you think this will be a good game and that you still enjoy this type of soulless crap past the age of 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxx4VXXkWE
Commercial time
>>317320747
Mario and Luigi RPG are objectively superior in every single conceivable way to Paper Mario, deal with it you underage cunt stain
>>317320747
>>defending half assed games
>It's depressing that you think this will be a good game
>implying this game is half assed
>implying i haven't seen enough to judge
>Implying everyone else hasn't
lolno , thanks to our german friends i've already seen what i needed to see, this is mario and luigi with paper mario to help
>>317320523
Nigga have you checked any comment section for Nintendo Direct anything? A new Paper Mario in the style of the first two is always one of the highest ranked comment.
>>317320776
cute
>>317320732
>shitty minigames you can't skip, are repetitive and have fuckall to do with the gameplay of the rest of the game are good
BISfags everyone.
To be honest, I want a Paper Mario game that's actually a Paper Mario and not just a M&L that has Paper Mario slapped on it some because of shit like this when we Google M&L sprites:
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There are other reasons, but, you just need to ask Ninchendo about that one.
Don't get me wrong, I love both series. I just prefer to have the same with new stuff added to the table.
>>317320935
You do know minorities are always a lot more vocal, right? Like all these "ADD WOLF TO SMASH" retards.
>You now realize that these assholes could actually be in the gmae
>Paper Mario is now considered terrible thanks to a few autists
Mamma mia!
>>317320890
>underage
>M&L games made after Paper Mario
>>317320935
You can scroll down to the comment section of any video and see something like 'thumbs up if mlp sent u here!!!' in the top comments. Youtube comments don't mean shit because the type of people who make youtube comments are total idiots
>>317321027
I liked the dumb minigames you could get beans from in SSS
>>317321083
They were in DT.
>>317321108
>Paper Mario 64 with TTYD visuals
MUH DICK
>>317321083
Bandits were in DT.
>>317321110
They could very easily be too young to play superstar saga but young enough to play the thousand year backtrack
Kaiju Battles
>>317320935
Youtube comments mean literally nothing
Paper Mario is niche and no where near as good as M&LRPG
>>317321110
Mario and Luigi RPG are made by the same people that made Super Mario RPG you literal underage fuck
>>317321237
>They could very easily be too young to play superstar saga
Wut? Anyone can play any game regardless of their age.
>but young enough to play the thousand year backtrack
Again, anyone can play any game regardless of their age, and I didn't like TTYD that well but "backtracking" is almost never a good argument against a game. There are entire games based around backtracking and they're fun.
>>317321491
It's an argument when it does suck the fun away from a game.
>>317321451
No they're not and I'm 24, so you're stupid. You just want to think anyone who doesn't share your shitty taste is underage.
>>317321580
>You just want to think anyone who doesn't share your shitty taste is underage
The hypocrisy in this post is oustanding.
>>317321189
Twink is now a Luma and the wizards are now toads
>someone is on /v/ defending this game
)': what the fuck happened
>>317321575
I can't think of a single good example of "backtracking" being used as a good argument against a game.
Look at games like Super Metroid for instance. I've seen people criticize it for "backtracking" but the whole concept is that you go back to areas you've previously been, now that you have new items (such as the high jump, speed booster, super missiles, etc.) and once you have new stuff there is more stuff to find in areas you've already been.
I've also seen people criticize Skyward Sword for this reason. Again, not a good argument, because when you go back to the areas for a second trip, they are completely different. The forest becomes immersed in water, and the volcano is overrun by enemies and you have to do a stealth segment. So it's not even backtracking like people say it is. It's not like you're going back to the same exact location to do the same exact thing you did before for a second time.
Can you actually give one example of "backtracking" being used as a valid criticism?
>>317278456
>cackletta with hips
Penis, don't do this to me
>>317321707
>Twink is now a Luma and the wizards are now toads
That shit got fixed ages ago. You can choose if you want him (and other "changed" characters) as a Luma or an updated version of the original design.
>>317321656
Yeah, not really. You're the one using this defense mechanism, not me.
>you're responsible for my posts!! I'm rubber and you're glue XD
>>317321707
Good thing the guy did the old characters in HD too, you can choose to not have the luma and toads.
>>317321846
>people like things i dont
its a sad day
>>317321912
Come on, you know exactly what chapter from TTYD I'm talking about.
>>317321993
I'm not even the guy you're talking to, but you're the one who started with the underage statements.
>>317321846
>Media blowout
>Trailers
>Screens
>Germans
>Scans
Gee, what happened anon
>>317257024
I don't think I can handle the repetitiveness after 4 Mario and Luigi RPG games.
>This fucking game
>>317322786
>Giant Luigi
oh boy
>>317321993
>>317321580
>>317321580
Yes they are you fucking retarded faggot
The people that made Super Mario RPG left Square and formed Alphadream then made the Mario and Luigi RPGs, and that's also why Shimomura composes the songs on Mario and Luigi RPG just like she did on Super Mario RPG because it's the same people making the game
Good job proving you are underage
>>317319654
>Could have
Yeah cause Alpha Dream makes Paper Mario right?
You want to whine, go whine at Intelligent systems for sticking with Waifu Emblem
>>317323229
>That scared animation
Oh geez
![sad-crying-man-2503659[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IcVCKIO.jpg "sad-crying-man-2503659[1]")
![Goomboss[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vX8iHAL.jpg "Goomboss[1]")
