How do you feel about Kotaku blacklisting developers and being blacklisted in response?
>>317225315
Gematsu is literally the only good gaming news website
How do I read this shit?
>>317225575
Top to bottom, left to right. Combine words to form sentences. Take Tylenol for any headaches, Midol for any cramps.
>>317225315
Mark Kern is that guy who wasted millions of AAA dollaroos on stupid marketing and never finished the game he was supposed to make, right?
>>317225315
>twitter drama
>literally whos
>>>/trash/
>>317225692
What if I can't find the joke?
>>317225392
Unfortunately it has one of the worst communities.
>>317225706
Yes. The other 2 people in that conversations are literally some of the biggest jokes in videogame blogging. Basically, everyone loses and we win because it's hilarious watching these literally who's argue
>>317226132
grow a penis
>>317226224
I liked one article the woman wrote about MGS3. No idea who the guy is.
literally who
>>317226432
>Leigh Alexander
>Her
L M A O
>>317226639
You know that ugly women exist, right?
I just get my news from the game magazines here in nipland. It's less bullshit and more"hey everyone lets take a look at these upcoming games (＾▽＾)"
>>317226605
>Everything wrong with /v/ the post.
>>317226219
If I had a gun and three bullets and Hitler, the new ISIS leader and Budgiecat were all in a room with me, I'd shoot Budgiecat three times.
>>317226605
fuck off back to tumblr you landwhale cunt
>>317226745
> nip magazines
> give 40/40 to all games made in japan or yakuza burn down the office again.
>>317226132
The joke is public drunkenness and general substance abuse.
Can somebody actually explain the fuck this is about instead of posting individual tweets and expecting us to knot the context?
>>317226605
Please don't remind me how fucking ruined /co/ is .Whats that? You wanna discuss comics? too bad, tumblr cartoon number 34342343
"Hey /co/ what are some female heroes that are sexy but not too sexy, showing skin but not too much?"
/co/ is fucking dead. Fuck this /v/ east and west split, /co/ needs to be split
>>317225392
nah I like reddit for my gaming news
>>317226224
She used to be a pretty respected journalist, but she got dragged into the genderwar shit with the rest of the idiots, "that" group of people are instantly triggered when they see her name now.
>>317226687
lmao get a load of this american
>>317226605
>(dead)
>>317226915
Two journalists are making fun of a former really bad AAA dev and then someone accused one of said journos of being a drunk.
>>317226913
Maybe Kotaku isn't as bad as I thought.
>>317225692
No need to make an ass of yourself, Richard.
GAMERGATE DID NOTHING WRONG
>>317227069
Is Leigh Alexander an alcoholic?
>>317225315
I think the developers have a point by saying leaking story beats and marketing material isn't necessarily appropriate unless there's a real consumer concern. Having a leaked scooped on a story spoiler is not newsworthy and is potentially damaging to the project.
Publishers have a right not to play ball with gamejournoz
Gamejournoz shouldn't be playing ball, and if that means not getting early copies then they should deal with it and buy it on their own.
Fuck Kotaku
>>317227184
She got drunk on a podcast once. People assume she is because of that.
>>317227070
That would be the case if they didn't write about trivial bullshit most of the time
>>317227243
continued
>>317227184
basically
>>317225315
I'M DEAD
HOW CAN THE DEAD FEEL
MAYBE KOTAKU CAN JOIN ME SOON
>>317227184
Yes. Most games journalists are, as it turns out.
I suppose dropping out of college or graduating with a degree and winding up in video game journalism would drive most people to drink.
According to some devs, journalists are often the only people doing heavy drinking at events. And will openly smuggle drugs in, and while the devs refuse, the journos will go off and get shit faced because they think every expo needs to be a party.
I don't care about shitty devs but I care about video game "journalists" infinitely less than 0.
>>317227275
>T W I C E
>W
>I
>C
>E
IN A ROW
>>317225315
How many Literally Whos can a single post have?
>>317227372
Wow.
>>317227243
Leaking a game's announcement early really isn't an impressive moral victory. It's literally click-bait. Serves them right getting black listed.
>>317227313
Brutal
>>317225315
>Human garbage
That is reserved for Patrick Topkek, my good man.
>>317227313
That really wasn't a very good response.
That's like saying The Guardian doesn't deserve any credit for the Snowden shit because they also publish dumb shit in the lifestyle section.
>>317227243
Also, wait, Klepek is at Kotaku. HA. That's pretty much the trash bin he belongs in...
>>317227313
kek
>>317227584
go to bed Patrick
>>317227584
Kotaku is
GAMES JOURNALISM
GAMES
A
M
E
S
>GAMES
The Guardian is allowed to post unrelated things in different sections because it is all-encompassing journalism. You are using an unequivalent analogy.
>>317226913
Anyone has a archive link of this?
>>317225315
SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUPfDxC_byU
I'm glad Ryan banned her for life. They still haven't had her on, even though he'sdead
>>317226132
Go to LOL thread and make a Loss edit, it seems more fitting to you
>>317227737
If they think people will read it, they'll post tangentially related weeb shit. If people don't, they'll do less of it.
Most news outlets publish both serious shit and dumb fluff. I don't see why this is such a big deal.
>>317227584
Are you really comparing a major news outlet publishing information about government surveillance of the public to... a fucking game tabloid leaking marketing materials? Really? Those things are at all equivalent.
>>317227825
The article https://archive.is/sc7Ts
>>317227737
Video games magazines almost always did some random fun shit since like the 1980 or whatever when I started reading the paper ones.
I don't really think this is even special.
>>317227848
He died to save us all.
>>317227881
Most media outlets arent specialized. You wouldnt see an article about how cool volcanoes are in a car magazine.
>>317227339
I generally agree on getting drunk at any event is a given, but these people are doing a job. You shouldn't get drunk on the company's dime, work time is for work. Also, it's NEW GAMES. Why would you need shit to enjoy new games no other fags will experience until later? This is pissing me off. I imagine this is what cripples feel about couch potatoes.
>>317225907
fucking this.
>>317227896
On a smaller scale, yeah, they are comparable.
A site about media will inevitably publish the more serious stuff from their industry and light fluff. It's what literally every news outlet aiming for a reasonably large audience will inevitably do.
The only real exceptions are like overtly high brow science and arts publications which Kotaku obviously isn't trying to be.
>>317227313
I'm gonna have to post this a lot tonight, aren't I?
>>317227954
Maybe not, but a lot of them do post a lot of images of girls wearing bikinis.
>>317227936
Thanks.
>>317228079
Go to bed Patrick you fucking manchild.
>>317228203
Near cars.
How is a KFC buffet even tangentially related to games?
>inb4 'its Japan so it must be games'
>>317228079
No. No. I don't care about doing different stuff. The issue is Kotaku was blacklisted for leaking marketing shit for Fallout and AS. It wasn't about some moral high ground or to bring people the truth. It was about page clicks. There is an enormous difference between that and Snowden.
The devs argument might have been weak, but his point is they will post anything to get clicks, and it's ludicrous that they are playing the victim and claiming the are "journalists" with that kind of shit being the BULK of their content.
It's a goddamn tabloid. They post tabloid shit. They got burned. Now they whine like a broke bitch. That is all.
>yfw Snowden only exposed all that government corruption for page clicks and ad revenue
>>317227339
Drinking isn't the same as alcoholism.
>>317225392
Siliconera is pretty great. No political bullshit, no click bait, just games.
>>317227936
If you’re pissing people off with your journalism, then you’re doing your job. Ruffling feathers, even if you’re entertainment reporters, is par for the course. Don’t stop doing it just because a couple publishers are a wee bit on the childish side of things.
This is a fantastic article on the complex relationship that exists between the developers of art and the people whose job is to review that art. Well written, well stated, A++++ would Kotaku again.
>>317228525
They're dying anyway. Youtubers have destroyed them in views, and with clickbait they're struggling to get by, let alone with the parent company Gawker going through welfare-tier poverty and layoffs lately. The devs hate them too, since they're gleeful about throwing out articles claiming misogyny or sexism or some shit if there's a pair of breasts in a game. They're losing their comfy little perch in the industry and now the manchildren don't know how to deal with it.
>>317228725
Does that include pissing off you readership? Because I'm fucking tired of leaks.
I don't know anything about what's going on, but wouldn't them blacklisting a developer imply no longer covering news relating to their work?
As a gaming news site that would go against their entire purpose of existing.
Maybe that's not what it means, but like I said I don't know so I shouldn't' be posting.
>>317228725
Patrick, go to bed.
>>317225392
Site is absolute garbage.
Everyone goes to Reddit these days. It's the perfect new aggregator. Get all your news in one place without the shilling and utter faggotry of sites like N4G and NeoFAGS.
>>317228667
In any profession it is highly unprofessional to be drunk on the clock. Even if your client is drunk, even if EVERYBODY is drunk. You can socially have a drink but you need to be in full mental control. This isn't exactly a new thing. Nobody wants to conduct business with a fucking lush.
>>317227725
go to bed (name) might be my favorite meme to be honest family
>>317228725
You forgot your quotes and the name of the intern at kotaku that posted that in the articles comments. Kotaku journalism, ladies and gents.
>>317225315
Who are these people? If you faggots are going to link "meh epik twit drama" at least have it be important or recognizable people.
I don't get this social media generation bullshit. Go the fuck outside and make friends. For fuck sakes this shit makes me so fucking mad. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CARE ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW?
>>317228806
I don't think you're part of a Kotaku readership
>anyone falling for kotaku's victim scheme
>>317228525
Snowden got blacklisted too, by the US government.
If he sets foot in this country again he's pretty much instantly gonna be in prison.
Same shit except one guy did it for a personal moral reason and these guys did it for personal page views.
>>317228359
>Near cars.
Not always. I remember a bunch of the time it'd literally just be a feature on a girl who'd at one point stood next to a car. I don't remember them all going "what does this have to do with cars?"
>>317225392
Gather Your Party is nice. They don't update enough but that's because contributors aren't paid.
>>317228808
they didn't blacklist developers
they were blacklisted BY publishers
>>317228525
You're assuming they're playing the victim as opposed to telling their readers something about how the industry works and saying their side of the story.
I didn't know much about sites getting blacklisted and now I do. The reason they wrote this is that it's informative and given that we're currently in a thread that's inspired a lot of conversation, it's evidently in the interest of people who follow this stuff.
>>317228947
If you don't know anything about the subject why even bother replying to this thread in the first place? :^)
>>317229192
>it'd literally just be a feature on a girl who'd at one point stood next to a car.
Well there you go thats a very thin, tangential relation to cars. KFC in Japan doesn't even have that. There's a difference between toeing the line and smuggling a truckfull of illegal Mexicans over it.
>>317228808
By blacklisting, they mean that they will no longer communicate with that website, are banned from press releases, etc. They can still report what they get their hands on, though.
>>317227313
t-t-t-that's an ad
>>317228712
I don't think so. They seem to love closing down conversations on articles they know will get heated arguments. And this is personal, but they also shill terrible indie crap and games from terrible studios.
They are far better then a lot of places though, even with all that.
>>317229342
God, that episode was awesome. Can't wait for next week's.
>>317229318
A (you) special and gift wrapped just for you!
>>317227848
>but we're in South Central so big ups Westsyiiiiiiide
>>317229412
>They seem to love closing down conversations on articles they know will get heated arguments.
sounds like a plus to me, desu senpai
>>317229320
You're putting yourself in a smaller and smaller box though.
Lots of hobbyist press covers other shit that they might think is of interest to their readers. Kotaku does occasional weeb shit and occasionally fandom shit. There isn't any code that says "if you are a site about this you have to report on only this." They've even implemented a button on their site which removes everything that isn't explicitly about gaming news and editorial for those not interested in it.
Also, why should they work to the standards of people who don't read their site and demand archives of everything they write anyway?
>>317226913
What's he done in the past to make him think they're against him?
>>317225315
>Gawker is firing people. Please talk about me.
>>317229573
For once it's not him specifically being a joke of a human being. He suffers from the blacklist because Kotaku as a whole are.
>>317229412
I don't go to news sites to look at the comments. The comment section in almost every site is just people flinging shit everywhere.
I'll give them a pass on whatever indie shit they're covering since they were the only website that covered anything Dragon Quest related over the past few years.
>>317226972
was that before she was half nigger?
>>317229743
I get why most of you are pissy at Alexander, Schreier and Hernandez.
Never understood the issue with Patrick though.
>>317229412
>they also shill terrible indie crap
>they
It's really just Chris Priestman.
>>317225315
What does that even mean?
I'm all for sick burns but I've never heard "collapsing in public" as a euphemism
>>317229307
You aren't fooling anyone.
It's to generate controversy, and nothing else.
>>317229880
They're making a crack about her allegedly being an alcoholic.
>>317229565
Not him, but I don't think such hobbyist press regard themselves as high quality journalism. The blacklist I from sponsored sources is not a battle they can win: the live off it.
>>317226219
gematsu has a community? it's literally just a blog with a comments section
>>317229912
>You aren't fooling anyone
God damn the paranoia on some of you faggots.
So, them basically stating the truth about an issue is done purely for the sake of generating controversy? Did you ever consider that if just factually explaining what has happened causes controversy, then it's the event that's controversial and not the reporting?
>>317227070
Otherway round friend
>>317229963
Community has become a buzzword.
>>317229880
>>317229917
I THINK THEY'RE REFERRING TO HOW SHE DESTROYED HER CAREER BY CONSTANTLY ACTING LIKE A SHITHEAD ON PUBLIC FORUMS
>>317230082
>Did you ever consider that if just factually explaining what has happened causes controversy, then it's the event that's controversial and not the reporting?
We are talking about Kotaku though.
>>317229936
>I don't think such hobbyist press regard themselves as high quality journalism
They largely regard themselves as experts in the topic they're reporting on.
The only link that matters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWEiccW5l4Q
WAS THAT SO HARD!?
>>317230156
That isn't a fucking response to the issue at hand.
Just bringing up the name "Kotaku" doesn't automatically win the argument.
>>317230082
No, it's entirely reporting to generate controversy.
There's nothing actually controversial about it, it's just tit-for-tat.
>>317225315
>shitaku
literally
who
the
hell
cares
>>317226913
>Gets leaked info
>Gets told by publisher not to post it
>Posts it anyways
>Gets mad when they are black listed
I know some fags are gonna gt bent over muh journalism but this is not over some editorial content. This is them posting leaked screen shots and game names.
>>317229917
>allegedly
nigga there isn't an "allegedly" involved here. She's a drunk.
>>317227070
Kotaku has had read worthy articles. The problem is that they are forced to put anything out every other minute, so most stuff there is "here's some random almost gaming related youtube video".
That makes actively following Kotaku a bad idea.
>>317229469
>next week
try the 2nd of december
>>317230240
>That isn't a fucking response to the issue at hand.
It is. They made their reputation. Now they must live with it.
You make your shit sandwich, you eat it.
>>317230236
Well this made me want to buy that kusoge.
>>317230257
>There's nothing actually controversial about it,
Then how is the article controversial? If the topic isn't controversial, how is it generating controversy in this very thread?
>>317230367
It isn't generating controversy.
We think it's funny.
You're an astroturfer though.
>>317225392
- Gematsu
- Niche Gamer
>>317229342
DOES SHE KNOW SHE'S AN AD?
>>317227439
to be honest she used to tweet almost constantly about her drinking. Like it was really dumb. There was a time in 2013 of this weird pattern of
"HEY GUYS JUST BOUGHT (large amount of booze for alone drinking), GONNA BE A GOOD NIGHT!"
followed by, some hours later
"IM GONNA SCREAM AND YELL AT SOMEONE ON TWITTER!"
I remember there was a week straight where she got piss drunk and started a fight with david jaffe every night, calling him a misogynist etc
Why the fuck does Gamespot write about movies and TV shows now?
>>317230335
This also isn't a response to the issue at hand.
I get that you hate Kotaku. I get that most of /v/ hates Kotaku. I didn't jump in to this thread to causally defend them in this instance and not expect any pushback.
But if all you want to do is say "well it's Kotaku so they're automatically in the wrong" then what's the fucking point in having the thread at all?
>>317230335
why would anyone make a shit sandwich
>>317230332
dammit! This whole damn season has been amazing!
>>317229838
When he was at Giant Bomb he was cancerous tumor that tried to engulf the site with his bullshit. It got even worse when Davis died, thank goodness he got the boot.
I know this and I'm not a huge GB fan.
>>317230404
>We think it's funny.
Stop being a faggot. This is literally the easiest get out of jail argument ending bullshit going.
Also
>we
>>317230469
Because most video games suck now.
>>317229845
Yeah, it's really only that guy. Jenni has articles on mainly big Western releases, Chris just shills indie games but I haven't really seen any annoying articles.
Everyone else is fine.
>>317230504
But they are wrong, it's not like they broke some story about dev mistreatment or something like that. They run with leaks when the publisher didn't want them out. You have a working relationship with another company you gotta respect their wishes
>>317225315
somebody call an ambulance
>>317226639
>>317228746
DON'T FORGET GAWKER IS GETTING FUCKED, BROTHER
HULKAMANIA
>>317230367
>how is it generating controversy in this very thread?
It's generating "controversy" because you're a faggot who can't let it go.
>>317230315
Imagine being the one or two people there with a sense of integrity but the only job you could find is Kotaku.
You try your best to put out a good article, but other fags clickbait article accusing gamers being monsters will get more views and more ad money, so he gets a raise instead while you get chastised for not making a good enough article.
Clickbaiting is one of the worst things to happen to journalism.
>>317230504
>But if all you want to do is say "well it's Kotaku so they're automatically in the wrong" then what's the fucking point in having the thread at all?
To laugh at Kotaku and watch them slowly choke to death. What are you here for?
>>317230315
I wish there was a no bullshit kotaku rss feed because I genuinly enjoy some of their articles
>>317225315
Kotaku blacklisting developers? I haven't heard anything about that.
I know that Kotaku is being blacklisted by developers for posting leaks, something you'd arguable expect real journalists to do.
>>317230605
Thank you for finally fucking making an argument.
You're right that it's potentially a morally difficult area, but it massively varies from case to case.
In the example they gave about Doom 4 having a really troubled development and Kotaku reporting on this via leaks sent directly to them, it could be argued that it is in their readerships interest to know because of the nature of things like pre-orders.
For example, pre-orders of things like Thief, Duke Nukem Forever and Arkham City would be drastically affected by things like this and the people pre-ordering have a right to know.
I'm glad that game devs are finally calling these journos out on their shit, and since these journos make their lives public on Twitter, we can watch them have their asses torn apart.
It's a win-win situation for us really.
>>317228725
Makes sense.
>>317230315
You could just read the articles you want to read.
If you dislike the minute to minute content, why exactly do you browse /v/?
>>317230717
>To laugh at Kotaku and watch them slowly choke to death.
You know their readership has gone up since last year, right? They're one of the gaming sites relatively unaffected by the Youtube boom because they cater to a niche that Youtube isn't filling.
>>317230445
It's a little creepy that claim to not be her fans are stalking her twitter so thoroughly.
>>317228712
Siliconera literally just copy Gematsu's articles word for word and then don't cite them so they can pretend they wrote it themselves.
It's cute that Kotaku feels like that the game devs they undermine and backstab are obligated to play ball with them.
>>317229838
Ironically, Klepek once privately colluded with other journos to blacklist a video game business dev.
>>317230704
Scan through the thread again, it isn't just me defending them.
>>317230445
That's sad
That's sadder than my shitty life
>>317230986
Yes it is.
You don't blend in at all.
>>317230976
Can you stop giving fragments of what's obviously a much longer story?
>>317230971
>Siliconera literally just copy Gematsu's articles word for word and then don't cite them so they can pretend they wrote it themselves.
[citation needed]
>>317230852
True but is Kotaku reporting in good faith rumor or are they fabricating stories/running with rumors as fact? Bethesda you might have a case for your argument but Ubi? It was 100% running with leak screen shot and game title when Ubi was in the middle of a PR nightmare with Unity. Leaking screen shots and titles is no journalism.
>>317230236
>nice guy wants to show off a new game he got and likes to the world
>chad sjws make fun of him for it
>get paid to do so
It never ends, does it?
>>317230849
Kotaku blacklists dev who don't follow SJW narratives and all pro-GG devs
>>317230976
Literally who is Kevin Dent? Two-Face's son?
>>317231034
Lets see, the following aren't me:
>>317230897
>>317230849
>>317230802
Only scanned up a tiny bit of the page. Suck it up.
>>317231168
Stop pretending, you're not fooling anyone.
>>317231163
Never heard of that, until I see some evidence to the contrary I'm going to assume its some gg bullshit.
>>317231168
Different person anon
>>317230870
This
Seeing millenial faggots who grew up on social media crying bitch tears is pure schadenfreude
>>317231096
You don't think the fact that Ubisoft were planning to release two Asscreed games a year after the previous title was released as a broken rushed mess was in the public interest?
>>317231168
so you admit that everyone in this thread besides those three are you
>>317231142
How about when they berated a 9 year old kid for saying that people are allowed to make offensive jokes because they're jokes
>>317225315
Why are videogame journalists such mental challenged fags?
>>317231230
Can I interest you in Kotaku Core? The official way to read less native advertising for Frito Lay products.
post yfw when kotaku is dying
What was actually leaked?
>>317231286
those monsters made fun of his cat, or something
>>317226605
Nice.
>>317231063
http://pepsimangb.tumblr.com/post/87095546239/hello-again-siliconera-please-stop-plagiarizing
http://pepsimangb.tumblr.com/post/80140264298/hi-siliconera-can-we-talk-for-a-second
>>317231283
Yeah dude, I am you and also this guy:>>317231298
Glad whenever shit game blogs get shafted by publishers. Kotaku is one of the worst among them and it makes perfect sense why companies would not want to deal with them.
Post more screencaps of faggots getting rekt on tweeter.
>>317231346
>>317230870
Ironically, they're being blacklisted for doing exactly what gg wanted, not being a pawn of the developer and having ethics in journalism.
Wonder how many gg'ers will somehow try to rationalize why this is a good thing
>>317231280
>public interest
Uhh dude I get your point but we are talking about video games here not contaminated water supplies. They had a working agreement with Ubisoft. They got some leaked info about a game they are putting out, published the info at the worst time possible. And you think Ubi soft is in the wrong for black listing them? This is not over shitty scores it's over leaks dude.
>>317231167
Some literally who.
Seriously, I googled him. I found jack shit. Just a linkedin page and an About.me page
>>317231404
Maybe you should go to cripplechan and find out.
>>317225315
>Kotaku
you'd have to pay me to care
no seriously pay me, i need money for sushi
>>317231035
He's giving you a flawed overview that, if you got any details of it, would reveal his synopsis was a completely lie.
Gawker is going to be dead within 2 years anyways now that Hogan has access to their database and can sue them for every penny they have once it's revealed they are the ones that released the racist video.
What can they do when the Hulkamania is running wild on them
>>317231358
What is the context for this scene? Why did that guy run like a retard when he clearly saw some geezer pulling out a pistol?
>>317231346
>>317231298
They are mostly SJWs and they hardly get out of their upper-class white bubble.
When the "plebs" don't do as they say, it's a global catastrophe to them.
>>317231346
>>317226972
she was never a respected journalist, the only reason anyone knew who she was is from being drunk and loud on some giantbomb stream
>>317231493
I'm not sure, I haven't seen the movie and I don't know the title.
>>317231404
>not being a pawn of the developer and having ethics in journalism.
>having ethics
>leaking shit for clicks
This is Kotaku we're talking about.
>>317231429
When I say public interest, I mean their readership and the people who buy games in general.
And I get that it's over leaks. But at the same time, it is a perfectly valid look in to how fucking insane and how unwilling to learn from their mistakes Ubisoft are.
The blacklisting is what it is. Ubisoft can do what they want. But at the same time it's hard to have any sympathy for Ubisoft if there's evidence that they were carrying on with a business plan that had literally just fucked over millions of their customers.
>>317230971
I often see Siliconera break big news before Gematsu does. They were THE first site to report on the FFVII remake and others followed suit hours later.
They're both good reads though since they don't always cover the same things.
>>317231510
Whats the significance of your image? Its basically a tweet saying that media critics don't get paid very much.
SJWs getting rekt?
SJWs getting rekt.
>>317231346
When will the Hulkster save gaming?
Kotaku leaked shit for traffic. That's all it was. It wasn't for journalistic reasons. In a roundabout way they cost Bethesda and Ubisoft money, that's why they were cut off, not because of their "journalistic integrity"
>>317230236
I don't understand. Is the original reviewer with Kotaku or is the annoying dudes talking over it? Also, why are they making fun of him?
>>317231167
>>317231442
That name does sound familiar, but I don't know why. Even checked out deepfreeze.it and got nothing.
Games journalists are bottom-feeders, mindlessly running around, trying to attract the attention (and clicks) of any passing by gamers. They overreact, misconstrue, and bend the truth to get people to go on their blogs and give them money through ad revenue. I don't believe any games journalist is passionate about their job.
Videos games are a more successful medium than film or music, but are much more shallow. Very rarely is a thought provoking or different-from-the-norm game popular and more successful than the AAA garbage shat out every year. So games journalists are forced to write about the new CoD, the new Star Wars game, or the new Assassin's Creed/Assassin's Creed clone to stay relevant in this pitiful market.
There's zero driving force for interesting writing when the games you have to write about aren't interesting in any way. It's a dull, bland, monotonous job, and I would never want to work as one.
>>317231554
So they are doing leaks and not being a pawn of the developer, which we agree is good...
But it doesn't count because that gives them traffic?
It only counts if they're doing it for purely selfless reasons?
>>317231167
>Literally who is Kevin Dent? Two-Face's son?
fuggin really m8??
Who's mark kern?
>>317231583
SJW acts like he is not part of privileged class, i.e. the only one that matters (money), while being exactly that.
Doesn't this guy's dad own a house on some rich fuck island in NY or something?
>>317231346
But its not. After Hulk was revealed a racist and deviant, public opinion will shift away from him and the judges will go with Gawker.
>>317231583
if they don't get paid much, either that guy shouldn't be wasting his meager income on a thousand-dollar camera, or he's lying about his income
>>317231298
They're the paper wall for publicizing video games. If they weren't idiots they would be doing something productive, instead of scrambling to get the most clicks for other people's cosplay.
>>317231583
The media critic who made that claim has a demonstrably large disposable income. Poor people don't buy 1000 dollar cameras.
>>317231601
Then why did you link a cringe image, anon
SJWs getting rekt; mansplaining edition.
>>317231601
>You're going to have to to take my laifu before you take my waifu m8
What does leaking a game actually get us?
We find out about it or stuff in a less climatic way, it's like being spoiled on the end of a movie. Many times it does ruin a reveal like with the SF leak of Laura
All it does is get them clicks, that's all they want.
>>317229303
I almost became a writer for their site but decided against it seeing how the future of gaming discussion is turning into something of the political sort.
>>317231678
Former Blizzard dev that spends all of his time tweeting to gaymergays, which is obviously why the shitaku employee is doing his best mean girls impression.
>>317231601
>Please stop. The 13th Amendment makes it illegal to own niggas like this.
That comment will never not be funny.
>>317231510
The company he works for just got $160k to make a series of videos.
A decent camera for publicity images doesn't seem like an insane thing to buy.
>>317231687
>Doesn't this guy's dad own a house on some rich fuck island in NY or something?
Yep.
>>317231698
I dont think you understand how the fuck courts work. The racist video basically guarantees Hogan is going to win when it's found out that Gawker did it to try make him look bad for the trial and cost them even more money because it caused the termination of a hundred million dollar contract.
>>317231576
Whoa whoa whoa, I'm not arguing for Ubi, they can fuck off and die for all I care. What I'm saying is video game journalism is fundamentally different then just about any other type of journalism. For a review to be meaningful at all it has to be out before or at the same time the game launches. For a movie it's easy, buy a midnight screen ticket, take 2 hours to watch it. Then bag out your review. But games? When games are 20hr a pop long? You need the cooperation of the publisher to get a review out in a timely manor. And in all honesty we all knew Ubi was gonna make another AssCreed, they only ran with it because they got that screen shot. If they cared at all about the working relationship with Ubi maybe they should of Emailed them and asked them about running with it slightly later when the PR machine was a little calmer.
>>317231719
Haha. That dude was a fucking retard. Attempted to join in on the SJW craziness cult until even he couldn't keep living the lie. Now he seems way on the other side of things.
>>317226972
>She used to be a pretty respected journalist
Nope
Unless by "respected journalist" you mean "prominent SJW blogger"
>>317226913
Hodd Toward having none of their shit.
>>317231510
>upper-class
kek
>>317225315
>NeoGAF didn't get invited at E3
>Kotaku is being blacklisted by devs
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>>317231687
I dont understand.
He's saying those jobs don't make any money. Are you claiming that they do in fact make a lot of money?
I don't see any part of the tweet that claims he isn't part of a privileged class. You're reading into something that he didn't say.
Also that camera is not the same as the one with the price listed. Looks like you guys fell for some bait.
>>317231818
All of those contracts were quickly renewed.
And if you dont think cases like this one are decided on public opinion, you must not be american.
>>317231905
Stop pretending to be obtuse, you got btfo.
>>317227243
This is pretty accurate.
There shouldn't be a tit for tat relationship between journalists and publishers at all. Not getting bribed with 'review' copies, no flying off to LA for demo events, nothing. Consumers benefit from both parties benefit from blacklisting eachother because now one becomes more honest and the other now has to rely on its product actually being a good product
>>317231673
I'm not even the same anon, but that is dumb. Leaking stuff is not ethics.
>>317231715
Why not? He never claimed he was subsistence living. Low-income people save up for 1000$+ computers/cars/smartphones all the time.
>>317231898
In the NeoGaf thread it's revealed that Polygon has also been blacklisted.
BASED DEVS
>>317231601
>The 13th Amendment makes it illegal to own niggas like this
Never gets old.
>>317231346
What is this from? no pedo
>>317231898
How did a forum get invited to E3 anyways?
literally who
>>317225315
>vidya 'journalism'
Never gave a shit about it, and not going to start.
>people who say mean things are worse than murderers
>>317225315
>t Kotaku blacklisting developers
has not happened and obviously wasn't why they were blacklisted
>>317231825
Well then they made the decision that their ability to leak things was more important than getting reviews out on time.
That's on them and they still have the right to cover their blacklisting and the reasons behind it.
Also "we knew another Asscreed game was coming" really isn't worth much. after Unity was such a disaster people were generally unsure about what was going to happen next.
>>317226219
>Go to a news website for the community
There is your mistake, faggot.
>>317231781
We'll find out if it's shit.
Isn't that what /v/ is obsessed with?
>>317227584
>The Guardian doesn't deserve any credit for the Snowden shit
they don't
>>317231965
That guy is a trust fund kiddy whose father is a millionaire. Same deal with Brianna Wu. Rich, spoiled upbringing leads to people turning into retards later in life because they can't deal with people disagreeing with them and want to act like they are the hardcore rebellious underdog fighting the system.
>>317230971
Nigger Siliconera was the first one to leak shit from couple of Jap games. Like SFV characters that proved to be right.
>>317231936
If it was decided on public opinion the judge wouldnt have even allowed Hogan to search Gawkers computers. They are literally the only people with the full tape and actually issued takedowns against any other sites that tried to upload the parts they released.
>>317232013
Now you're just being ridiculous
Funny how even fucking South Park gets it that they only use muh journalism and SJW shit as bait in order to get people to talk about them for ad revenue.
>>317231943
>Fall for an image with a fake price attached to it
>claims the other guy is btfo
Sure thing family
>>317231781
When 100s of people work their asses off completing a product but a not-for-sale edition ends up in journalists hands for the purpose of review, they shouldn't just punish developers immediately even before the product actually reaches the market.
You are exchanging potentially millions of dollars and years of work for a few thousands that will go in a "journalists" pocket, after said games journalist spends maybe a few minutes to compose a click-bait.
Come on. I mean, this is an industry and it doesn't run on good will to feed developers, it runs on sales.
>>317232013
You get that Snowden went to them specifically because of their reputation, right?
