I find it hilarious when Sonic Adventure fans ask for "Sonic Adventure 3" when Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06 were SA3 and SA4. same shitty subplots with the president and G.U.N. same shitty gameplay. same awkward story. Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog were the sequels to Adventure no matter how much you don't want them to be.
>>316830629
Shadow was just an improved heroes with dropping the team work for gunplay and 06 was an abomination
Heroes was close with the different groups and interwoven storylines but the gameplay was all the same unlike SA1&2
Agreed. But /v/ won't agree
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What bothers me more is the fact that people want Sonic Adventure 3 in the first place. I don't know about you, but I find it completely unnecessary for it's existence since the only real real defining exclusive feature it had were the Chao Gardens. Hub worlds, different perspective of the same storyline, a more "serious" tone, and what have you were done in later installments so there's no actual need to return to the Adventure games. And any questions that were left unanswered had long since been established following with Heroes and Shadow, so it can't be the need for a continuing story. SA3 is pretty much an artifact title at this point.
Okay, for fuckin real guys, this is the truth:
ya ready
here it is
okay so
Sonic Heroes was a fun game
>>316831403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvNEZ4WWQIk
>>316831526
This.
>>316831418
I want SA3 and I don't care about the chao garden.
>>316831526
That Casinopolis stage though. I liked Heroes but that stage can go eat a dick.
>>316831526
SHAA
>>316830629
Shadow the Hedgehog was more of a Sonic Adventure 2 2, because it tries harder than Heroes to be tied to Sonic Adventure 2.
If Shadow existed 50 years ago and was in a cryogenic sleep until the events of SA2 started, wouldn't they make him older than Sonic and therefore the original? So Sonic really would have been the faker all along unless he was older than 50.
>>316831906
Sonic time traveled
>>316831747
It's the best visually, though. Or so i remember it to be. That and Egg Fleet were pretty based.
>>316831654
But what makes SA3 so special that a Sonic game couldn't be done elsewhere without gracing that title? This reminds me so much of how I kept telling people a Sonic 4 wasn't needed at all when we had the Advance series. Of course, a Sonic 4 was eventually made, and that sucked ass, so people putting SA3 on such a high pedestal when we know SEGA is incompetent will only lead to so many people getting disappointed (or deluded) if it ever happened.
>>316832017
Egg Fleet was the fucking shit
"I want Sonic Adventure 3" is code for "Where the fuck is the Chao Garden?"
>>316831747
>>316832017
Casinopolis at least had wicked good music and visuals, better than like Frog Forest or whatever the spooky place was
Egg Fleet was fucking radical as fuck and did a good combo of letting you sit back and enjoy the visuals but also being vaguely challenging at points. It's such a long fuckin level though.
>>316830629
What about Sonic Heroes? It literally continued the plot.
>>316832193
at this point they might as well just make it a fucking app
>>316830629
I'm pretty sure when people ask for SA3 they mean a game with actual good gameplay, like the first two. And also the Chao Garden though I honestly couldn't care less about that.
Of course, to a casual, the shitty games you mention probably seem to have the same gameplay as the Adventure games. But that's only because you are clueless about game design. I'll give you a hint though: Movement physics.
>>316832375
What made Heroes so much fun was seeing just how vast the stage was designed. Seeing all the machines as you launch yourself into the sky in Egg Fleet was a very memorable moment. Not to say that later games didn't do that, as Sonic Colors did something similar with Starlight Carnival, but we need more of this kind of presentation.Along with actual good gameplay of course.
>>316832612
>liking how in SA2 Sonic felt like a 18 wheeler
Baby be mad.
>>316832560I'd buy it.
Shadow is severely underrated. Sure he's edgy and the backstory is just completely retarded even for sonic game, but gameplay is pretty good and it has a ton of replayability.
>>316832550
OP here gonna level with you I just like making shit threads to stir the pot because i'm bored. haven't played a Sonic game newer than Sonic CD.
>>316830629
Shadow the Hedgehog is actually pretty good from a gameplay perspective too. It controlled better than the Adventure games
The other aspects of it were lacking; but at least the game was focused almost always on him. You aren't forced to suddenly play a completely different type of playstyle every other level and it had decent replay value that wasn't just mindless, pointless grinding
>>316832612
>I'm pretty sure when people ask for SA3 they mean a game with actual good gameplay, like the first two
If that's the case, why not ask for a good game then, instead of opting the easy way out and saying "how about a sequel to a game I liked?".
Besides, the Adventure games have aged like milk. Sonic Adventure 2 gets a lot of high praise, and for good reason, but replaying the game made me realize just how linear the speed stages were. The treasure hunting wasn't too bad, and the shooting stages were pretty decent, but Gamma's gameplay in Adventure 1 felt more fluid and complete.
>>316832827
Shadow's gameplay is pretty clumsy honestly. Feels worse than SA1, Shadow slips all over the place and your weapons can't aim very well.
>>316831526
I didn't hate it
I hated the special stages being mandatory to get the true ending which I never got
>>316832973
I'm not going to defend Shadow the Hedgehog since the game lacks a lot of good things, but I'm surprised that people don't realize you can control Shadow much better by holding the R trigger down. It lets you strafe in place while being able to jump left, right and back for dodging while aiming more precisely. Makes using the bazooka far more manageable.
It doesn't even have to be complicated or have a great story, we just want the core gameplay, no gimmicks. Fuck I can shit out a better game than Sonic Team ever could
>Drop his faggot ass friends and keep the core characters (Sonic, Shadow, Amy, Tails, Knuckles)
>Only make Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles (as a Werehog clone) playable
>Quit adding stupid gimmicks
>Keep the story simple, maybe bring back Fang or Metal Sonic to appeal to nostalgiafags
That's all they gotta do. Except everytime they feel they need to reinvent the wheel. It's fucking stupid.
>>316831906
muh prophecies
Sonic lore is retarded
>>316833510
>No playable Tails or Amy
>having Shadow playable
>>316832612
>I'm pretty sure when people ask for SA3 they mean a game with actual good gameplay, like the first two.
>like the first two
I've got some bad news for you kid
>>316835145
I actually replayed SA2 a year ago and it was still as fun as I remember, even without the chao garden.
>>316833510
>It doesn't even have to be complicated or have a great story, we just want the core gameplay, no gimmicks. Fuck I can shit out a better game than Sonic Team ever could
>>Drop his faggot ass friends and keep the core characters (Sonic, Shadow, Amy, Tails, Knuckles)
>keep the core characters
>core characters
>shadow
what planet are you fucking from. Shadow hasn't been a "core character" since 06.
>>316835145
Sonic in those two games has some of the best movement controls and physics in a 3D game. Up there with Mario 64.
Of course, the high skill floor(and ceiling) means that we'll never get games that control like that again, just like Mario will never have the freedom of movement he had in 64 again. Gotta cater to today's shitty gamers.
