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Help /v/ you re my only hope. I'm actually done with the rest of the parts. im still undecided between the r9 390 or Gtx 970.

Which one will let play the most games, for the most time.
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390 vs 980 would be a better question, 390 is just flat out better. 8GB card vs a 4GB card is literally why even bother comparing
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>>316662645
Is there a group of you spamming these threads or is it just one sperglord?
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>>316662840
Because they cost the same
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>>316662645
>8gb of vram vs 4gb of vram
hmmm?
>out preforms almost every game but witcher 3 and fallout 4 which were nvidia optimized games
hmmmmhmmmmmm
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I bought 970 and regret it. Fucking nvidia fucking up color profiles after full screen games pisses me the fuck off.
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>>316662645
Wait until next year is the answer. HBM2, DP1.3, first process shrink for GPUs in fucking forever, it's going to be amazing and instantly obsolete all this shit. Worst time to buy.
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>considering buying a 970
>ever
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>>316662645
Depends if you plan on playing fallout 4
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>>316663773
I got a 970 from a friend for almost half off earlier this year, don't regret since it works much much better in my Mac. It's not like it's a bad card, just it'll be not so good next year but it's fine if it's cheap enough. Cool and low power.
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>bought a 970
>running every game I own on ultra
>don't give a fuck
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>>316662645
honestly a 390 is a better buy at that pricepoint
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>>316662645
>ask question about cards
>don't mention target resolution, or rest of setup (heat/power/space/whatever)
Come to think of it just fuck off.
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>>316663609
you didn't mention the cost of getting a cooling system, although the 390 is better here
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970 is great. People hate Nvidia the business but there is a reason that AMD is struggling to stay afloat and surprise, it's not a Jewish conspiracy.
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Buying a 970 at this day and age is beyond retarded.

Not even the Nvidia shilling youtube "tech"channels recommend it anymore. It's either a r9 390 or a 980ti.
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>>316664032

>being content with half assed hardware

you must game in 1080pleb
yeah, some of us here have moved onto higher resolutions the 980ti wouldnt be able to handle, yet alone a pathetic fucking 970

do you mainly do PS2 emulation?
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I bought a 970 because my three most played (recently) games are NVIDIA "optimized"

Would have went with the 390 otherwise
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>>316664032
>lying on the internet

I got a 980ti and it struggles to keep games like Witcher 3 above 60fps on ultra.

>b-but I'm talking about "Ultra" with X, Y and Z turned off! ;_;
Yeah, that isn't ultra anymore you faggot.
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>>316665189
I bought mine at launch, but yeah today the 390 is the better choice
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>>316665584
I don't consider crippleworks part of a game's ultra settings

A 970 can get 60fps with crippleworks off and everything else on ultra in Witcher 3 easily
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Just wait for the next gen of cards. Supposedly huge performance increase
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>>316665770
Just like we got with Fury since it had new memory and a new architecture?

Oh wait
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>>316665770
People say this every fucking year.

Never wait for new cards expect the launch is just a few weeks away.
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>>316665706
>buys Nvidia
>doesn't even use Gamewerks
Why the fuck did you buy a 970 in the fist place?
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>>316665930
I didn't say I didn't use it, I just don't consider it part of a game's core settings since it's tacked on after the fact

I can run Gameworks in Witcher 3 just fine with shadows an foliage distance on high, especially since they have very little difference visually but a lot performance wise
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>>316663618
Witcher is running flawlessly for me, with an msi r9 390. I just had to turn hairworks off. On the other hand F4 is running like a pile of shit and it looks like shit too.
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>>316665280
1440p here
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>buy an AMD card
>comes with an offer for free recording software called AMD Gaming Evolved
>kind of a clunky, bloated piece of shit, and it's more or less just a rebrand of free software but it works

that was a nice surprise, I guess.
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>>316666557
>the saddest possible response to shadowplay
>nice surprise
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>>316664213
Not OP, but 1380 x 970, Power: 500W power source, using 150 W right now.

Looking for something that will play at medium quality for 4-5 years without too much compatibility trouble.
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>>316666557
It's best to ignore that app and just use OBS. OBS can take advantage of your GPU be it shadowplay or VCE and provides more options.
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>>316667338
390

Thank me later
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>>316667473
I meant do I need a 390 vs a 380 2GB?
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>>316667513
If you can afford it, yeah. Keep in mind that it's supposed to last you a while.
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>>316667513
380=high settings 1080p

390=ultra settings 1080p/1440p
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>>316667513
Need?

No, of course not. But if you want to use it for 4-5 you are better off investing some more.
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>>316662645
I got a 970 at first, but had to RMA it because it was chugging when there are too many particles on screen. I then bought an MSI r9 390 and don't regret one bit.
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>>316667454

Problem with OBS is that I can't hit a button to record the last X seconds/minutes of gameplay (as far as I know.)
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>>316667556
>>316667565
Thanks anons!
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>>316667660
Just record all gameplay then.
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290x or a 390 anons?
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What about a GTX 980Ti with 6GB?
60fps 1080p plebeian here.
I need to upgrade, how much will this shit last me?
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>>316667767

That's a goddamn pain. Not to mention that's like, what, a few gigabytes per session.
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>>316665415
I got 390 for 1440p to survive until next gen, it performs very well in nvidia optimized games, and runs 70C full load, i am actually very impressed.
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>>316667835
Was considering the 390 and the very day I planned to purchase it the Sapphire 290X 8GB went for a 299€ sale.

Runs cool and quite, I fucking love this card. The addional Vram is a nice bonus on top.
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>>316667847
Way super overkill

A 970/390 is the highest you should go for 1080p60
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>>316667878
500mb per minute according to my shadowplay experience
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>>316667975
Yeah but i'm a very poorfag dude, i'm getting some mad money and i really need a NEET rig to last me at least 5 years.
Am i doing stuff good?
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>>316667835
390 is better optimized in drivers, they perform equally for now, if in doubt wait for a big driver update next week and benches of it
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>>316667976

>500mb per minute
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>>316668065
If you can spend $600 on a gpu, you can spend money on a higher res monitor to go with it
Make sure you processor can keep up as well and your psu can handle it
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>>316668078
>>316667957
My thanks anons.
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>>316668065
>980ti
>lasting 5 years

If you plan getting lasting hardware, get AMD. Too bad their top end cards are crippled by 4GB of Vram so you are fucked either way.
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>>316668065
If you're poor and you're getting money why not save it or invest it?

You're poor because you spend every cent you come across like a retard
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>>316668065
VERY bad time for that, 980ti will be terrible in two years if 780ti story anything to go by. Try to save money for next gen, we are too far into this one.
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>>316662645
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>>316668184
Trying to futureproof is stupid and pointless anyways
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>>316668184
I like how you were brainwashed into thinking you actually need more than 4gbm vram for this gen
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>>316668305
>brainwashed
>new games started using far above 4GB and the gen just started
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>>316668305
>Black Ops 3
>Shadow of Mordor
>GTA V
>Modded games
>Higher res
Retard
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>>316668305
Things will get worse, we are not that far into this console gen, dx12 games are not out - AK and blops3 first blooms. Soon devs will say fuck it and optimize for 4gb+.
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>>316668249
>just wait 5 more years to buy a gpu
Retarded post desu
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>>316668376
>>316668391
>>316668419
Imagine how 970 owners must feel knowing this.

Glad I dodged that bullet.
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How soon will I need to upgrade from my 280X if I only play at 1080p/60? Back when I bought it it was the best card I could afford on my work study job.
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>>316668431
it actually says buy a mid range gpu now and save up for next gen flagship in 6 months.
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>>316668491
in a year, but real answer is whenever it becomes not comfortable to have it.
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>>316668475
I haven't run across any problems with vram with any of those games. All bullshit spouted by AMD drones.
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>>316668515
>next gen flagship
>in six months

Keep believing, m8. We are going to get the 970/380 tier cards next summer. Don't expect the actual flagships to hit the market before Q4 2016.
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>>316662645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wOp7_dD8E

AMD drivers suck go a better nvidia card
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>>316663618
>8gb vs 3.5gb

ftfy

>Nvidia

NOT EVEN ONCE
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I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING AGAIN

WHY DOES MY 970 GET OUTPERFORM BY THE SHITTY LOW END AMD SHIT
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>>316668475
At 1080p I don't have a problem with those games

At 3.9gb of vram BO3 runs fine
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970 has far superior drivers for Win10. Performance still very good.

I wouldn't buy a 390. A 390x if you're not on Win10. I had to return my 390x and got a 970. Doesn't matter since it just holding me over till pascal.
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>>316668615
>>316668709
First stage - denial.
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>>316668704
Battlefront is an AMD game

A 970 runs better on FO4
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Radeon 380x should be just around the corner, right ? I have GTX760 right now and it's getting old, but i'm also not sure about getting 970/390 tier-power as right now i'm playing Fallout 2 only.

So 380x should be ideal right ?
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>>316668768
Nice meme

>I don't even have the card yet I know how it runs from reading memes on /v/
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>>316668773
>Battlefront is an AMD game
No, it is properly optimized game for all gpus.

>A 970 runs better on FO4

1040p 1440p! let's sing it together!
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980 is 430 from Jewegg right meow. The meme gaymur MSI version too.
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>>316668773
Black Ops 3 is a Nvidia game.

WE CAN'T LET AMD KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
THIS ISN'T THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE PLAYED
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>>316668376
>>316668391
>retarded AMD drones still spouting this bullshit
The only game that gave problems with vram was shadow of mordor, when installing the texture pack that required 6gm vram and didn't make any difference.
You mongoloids actually think games are going to have higher system requirements when consoles are guaranteed to stagnate graphics for the next 6 years.
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I'm in a similar situation OP. Personally, I'm waiting until the Pascal series gets on the market next year, until then I'll stick with my old 470.
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980 ti
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>>316668934
>780ti stomped by a fucking 280

Fucking how?
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>>316668951
Where is AF in that ultra screenshot?
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>>316668934
Who plays that meme game? I'm a 980ti fag and I wouldn't touch that niggershit
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>>316668934
BO3 is a memory hog, and at 1440p the exra bandwidth and memory of AMD cards would benefit them more
This is not surprising

>>316668951
You can stop posting now
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>>316668704
Depends on the game champ
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>>316669026
NVIDIA has drivers meme, yes they make great initial driver, fix bugs later and do not change it ever again. Most recent example Fo4 driver - no changes were made except new shiny driver number.
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>>316669068
are you trying to prove him right? 290x performs exactly like 390.
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>>316668892
This.

Stop being a top tier faggot op and save up for a 980. They're getting cheaper all the time.

I can play most games at 4k with very high settings at 58-61 fps on mine. I'm still going to buy another one for sli though since they're so cheap nowadays.
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>>316669234
The 970 outperformed the 390. For 1080p games the 970 is generally the better choice.

If you want to play at higher resolution a 390 and 970 are poor choices.
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>>316668934
How is this ugly game running so poorly anyway?
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>buy a 970 for gameworks
>gamework titles run better on AMD hardware
>970 cúcked by the 290 non-x

IT ISN'T FUCKING FAIR
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>>316668704
>>316668934
>>316669358
>>316669068
DELETE THESE POSTS
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>>316669354
Developers have stopped giving a shit completely

Look at FO4
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>>316669249
Except you're a fucking liar and I'm >>316669040
with a 980Ti at 3440x1440 (less than 4k) and can only just get 50-60fps at max settings in most games.
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>>316669358
>overclocked AMD runs better than stock nvidia when gameworks is turned off
HOW COULD THIS BE
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>>316669320
>For 1080p games the 970 is generally the better choice.
I believe you mean "for games paid off by Nvidia."
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>>316669320
not on 15.11 driver
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>>316667338
>500W

kek
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what's the best card and cpu I can buy for about 200 bucks a piece?

I have a shitty Radeon hd 5770

and a shit amd athlon at 2.8 ghz


;-;

I just wanna play fallout 4
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>>316669490
Nice broken card you've got there.
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>>316669567
>AMD
>overclocking

Get your memes straight, fukkboi
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dont get the memecard
dont get 970
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>>316669637
i5 and a 380
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I come from the past
fear me
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>>316666378
take a pic in corvega plant
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Got the 970, sold it again after the whole 3.5 shitfest and got a 290X instead.

Can't complain. Runs cooler and draws far less power.
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>>316669657
>Nice broken card you've got there.
Nope.avi, I'm ranked 16th in the world for 980Ti 3DMark score m8. I have a golden card.
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>>316669590
>>316669614
I had a 390x. Fact is AMDs drivers are trash and still are for WIn10.

At the prices you can get a 970 at these days and with how close pascal is I'd just get a 970 and wait.
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If you're not getting a 980ti, go with AMD.

Don't get a 980; the 980ti is a better value.
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>>316669768
so you are 0.7% of all cards ever produced, good for you
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>>316669758
Of course it does
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>>316669841
Nah, AMD's drivers are fine unless you have a dual core.
The "no drivers meme" hasn't been accurate for at least 3 years now m8.
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>>316669730
I had a Phenom II X4 965, I think it is still a solid processor even if vidya is moving more towards eight cores. That machine would probably make a decent media center.
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>>316669758
>290x
>Runs cooler and draws far less power.

Cmon fanboy.
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>>316669841
at least change the text a bit, you posted this 3 times already in this thread, mr. shill
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>>316669845
This guy gets it.

If you have the money go big dick Nvidia high end. If you don't, get a fucking r9 390. Don't intentionally cvck yourself with cards like the 390X/980 and especially the 970.
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>>316669841
>he doesn't know Nvidia's Win10 drivers have been abysmal
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>want to buy a 390 over a 970

>shit needs 750W PSU and a bigger case.

I might need 350 euros for the 390 + 150 euros for case and PSU.

The fuck AMD?

Gonna buy either the 970 or wait for new cards.
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>>316669637
Don't bother. Bethcųckstha purposely gimped the game. It looks like a budget 2005 title, but takes 980ti to run on ultra.
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>>316669906
I can tell you've never been on AMD's forum. If you think Nvidia forums were bad just see the months old threads on AMD with problems that take months top fix.

I am told the problem with Skylake and AMD is apparently a lot better now.
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>>316669927
It was a reference 970 versus my Sapphire 290X. Never goes above 66 degrees under heavy load while the 970 went up to 80 any time a day.

I use a 144hz display on top of that so yeah, the 970 draws a fuckton of more power, especially in desktop use.
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>>316662645
R9 390
Also go to /g/, they love /v/ :)
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>>316670070
Love that bandwagon mentality. It looks and runs better than TW3, but that downgraded slav shit gets praised to hell and back.
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>>316669916
Any recommendations on a new CPU?
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>>316669986
You can get the Sapphire 390 Tri-X for about 310€, though.
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>>316669962
I'br had both Nvidia and AMD experience with Windows 10 since the beta builds.

Both have had problems but AMD is by far the worse. AMD crashing non fucking stop.
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NVIDIA shill here. I've had a 670 for a long while and looking to upgrade to the r9 390. Stupid question: I'm gettin the i5 skylake chip - the 390 will be compatible right? I never bought AMD cards before.
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>>316668704
Everyone knows DICE is in bed with AMD, al Nvidia released a new driver for this game so benchmarks need to be updated.
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>>316670205
24/7 for 8 days on 15.11 not a single crash
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i bought this today after trying to clean my pc with a air gun and destroyed my GTX 650 Graphics card's fan blades. and i think i mighta fucked my heat sink. what do you guys think? it seemed pretty cheap to me.
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>>316670131
Do you enjoy just lying on the internet?

And the 970 idle power is a known bug that will be fixed in the next driver
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do GPUs usually get any deals on cyber monday? Thinking of getting a 960, 380, or 390 of any of them have a great deal.
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>>316670131
Why would you lie? You know people can just google the power consumption of the two cards right?

You can argue the performance but the power consumption and heat of the 290/390 cards is terrible.
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>>316670205
>AMD crashing non fucking stop
Same with Nvidia negro
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>>316669962
Nvidia drivers for Windows 10 have been pretty good, way way better than windows 8 drivers.
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>>316670293
>b-but they will fix it with a driver

Just like the missing 0.5GB VRam.
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>>316670291
>2gb
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>>316670365
Me expereince especially with the beta builds of Win10 and Nvidia is 9/10 problems are pebcak
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>>316670416
what? did i fuck up?... do i really need more?
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>>316668376
Is this some kind of shitty amd meme? I run Fallout 4 on ultra 1080p at 60fps with my 2gb gtx 960.

AMD vram is as useless as their CPU cores. If it wasnt for amd devs would optimize their games better, thanks amd
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>>316670365
GTX 970 windows 10, haven't had a single crash on windows 10 but that hardware acceleration bug that was fixed months ago.

I think you have a bad card.
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>>316670330
>You can argue the performance but the power consumption
>he doesn't know
http://www.pcgamer.com/144hz-monitors-and-nvidia-gpus-draw-surprising-amounts-of-power/

>heat on reference cooler
Why the fuck would someone get reference?
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>>316670542
This is a regression in the drive and Nvidia reported they are working on it, if you install an old version of the drive the bug is gone.
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>>316670502
What resolution? At 1080p you should have at least 4gb vram
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>>316670502
Cancel your order m9, 4 gb ver is cheap too.
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>>316670518
Nah, you will be fine. Don't believe the memes, you'll be able to play every game just fine.

Except the ones consuming 4GB+ of vram :^)
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>>316670542
Those numbers still don't match 390/390x numbers of heat and watts.
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>>316670173
My 8350 has served me very well if you are unwilling to spend extra cash switching the socket type to an intel one. The only thing that would make me switch would be an unlocked i7/ whatever 8 core intel shit and new motherboard combo for less than $350.

However I got lucky pricematching the 8350 at best buy and ended up getting the unlocked black edition for $125. it can do up to 4.4 GHz on my after market cooler while staying under 65 degrees celsius and stock voltage.

You can get an 8320E for a lower price than an 8350 usually. Then you just overclock it to 8350 speeds.
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EVGA 980 for $430 or EVGA 980ti for $580? Both are superclocked. is the the ti worth the 150 extra dollars?
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>>316670665
thats if im trying to play on like ultra right? i dont mind playing mid/high.
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>>316670708
>200W of idle power draw for the 970/980/980ti while the 290/390 series draws about 11w in idle

I know it conflicts with the ebin memes but it's true.
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>>316670824
> is the the ti worth the 150 extra dollars?


the 980ti is the stronger single gpu in the market right now, you tell me.

it would do 1440p at 144hz for years.
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>>316670897
Ya but you wont post any of the numbers of when the cards are at 100% usage.
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>>316670925
If you like playing at like 30 fps with a maybe 50-60 average in some games.
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>>316670897
read >>316670657
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>>316670925
It doesn't even do 1440p144 right now, are you retarded? Maybe in fucking tf2 and counter strike.
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>>316671097
what? a 980ti can push 100+fps in 1440p no problems.
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>>316670773
Thanks, the price I found for one on Newegg isn't too steep. I've had this computer since 2009 and I just now recently started looking into upgrading.
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>>316671175
At low settings and old games maybe. None of the modern cards can play anything over 1080p well.
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>>316671104
>w-wait for the drivers ;_;

It's okay when Nvidia does it. :^)
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>>316662645
Remember, NVIDIA GAMEWORKS
Why do you want to support the terrorist who ruining your games and takes them as hostages only to rape and throw them out

Nvidia is literally EA of videocard world.
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>>316671175
In SLI, maybe.
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Should I upgrade to Skylake?
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>>316671375
You could upgrade to anything from that CPU. Haswell, Skylake, Ivy-Bridge whatever.
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>>316671375
If you want it for gaming Skylake is a nice upgrade especially if you're not on legacy i7/i5 already.
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>>316671250
Because the alternative provides worse products/features/support.
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>tfw wanna upgrade from my fx 8150
>if I want to switch to intel I need a new motherboard too
>if I want to upgrade to the new amd zen cpu when it comes out, I have to upgrade the socket type anyway AND get DDR4 ram
>it's not worth the money to just upgrade to a fx 8370

uuuuuuugggggh, what do you think I should do guys, either way I'm dropping some serious dough
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>>316669986
>750W PSU and a bigger case.
Stop these lies faggot.
It wouldn't eat more than 300 watts even when highly overclocked
Intel CPUs eat 70-120 watts on load
Just fucking buy 600 watt GOLD fucking PSU
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What's a good card that gets high performance for medium graphics at 1080p and runs at a generally low temperature?
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>>316671709
Overclock the shit out of your processor and wait for Zen
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>>316671375
wait for Zen
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970 master race reporting in. playing fallout at 1440p
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Looking to upgrade my HD7850 but I don't know to what. Still on 1080pleb.

My rig was built on a budget and so it won't cost me an arm and a leg with power usage. AMD's latest offerings use way too much god damn power. Maybe I should wait for next gen?
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>>316671375
Legitimate question, why dual 960s? I feel like you could just get a 390 or a 980 and have less potential issues. I'd understand if you got a cheap deal on them or something.
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>>316671189
Unfortunately anon, if you replace only one of the components I fear that they'll end up bottle necking each other. Which R7 do you have? 2GB is halfway decent and I think it can still achieve at least 60 FPS on medium settings. 8 cores above 3.5 GHz would be overkill for it. My favorite GPU with a balance of value and power is the 380 with 4GB. The clock speeds and bandwidth are good along with having newer features like the ability to use freesync and the newer version of the GCN architecture allowing for some pretty good recording with the VCE codec.

On Nvidia's side the equivalent would be the 960, and I can definitely admire their attitude of going with less memory bandwidth, but a higher clock speed on their memory. However, they seem to drop support for their lower end cards very quickly and future drivers actually end up hindering the performance of older cards even if those updates are frequent.

TL;DR: I like the 380 with 4GB for very good 1080p 60 fps.
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>>316671375
Why the fuck would you buy 2 960s?

A 980 for about the same price will destroy that retard
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>>316671923
I had a feeling that would come up.
I have a 260X
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>>316670258
>Not being NJew being in bed with game developers
Plz.
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>>316671868
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Does it matter which card manufacturer i buy a r9
390 from or is it all just brand loyalty (asus, gigabyte, msi etc.)? How grand is the difference in price, power, or energy usage?
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>>316671709
Do you think the optimizations of pc development would even favor zen and skylake? Personally I'd wait a couple of years for a deal and overclock my shit in the meantime. This gen of vidya has shown me that devs are being huge chucklefucks when it comes to taking advantage of more powerful PC hardware.

You can also be confident that this new hardware is enough to brute force better performance, but then it's a question of whether you believe smaller percentages of improved performance are worth the investment of a new mother board and CPU.
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>>316672239
Sapphire is the standard for AMD
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>>316672239
Sapphire or Powecolor 390 run quite cool, I'd go with them.
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>>316671910
>>316672006
I had one but I won the second at a sponsored LAN. One was enough for the games I play, two is complete overkill.
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Wanting to move from my laptop, is this good? Is there anything that's too over/underpowered?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bnYRcf
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is there any practical upgrade over the fx8350? I'm in the USA for a year and I'm thinking of buying a few parts here to upgrade my computer back home.

I also have a r9 280x. I have no brand loyalty, but switching from an AMD CPU to an intel would be a pain in the ass.
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>>316672081
It's a difficult situation, personally I'd go for the GPU, overclock the CPU, and help get some money for new parts by selling the 260x to some prebuilt fag wanting to play their Source games and ASSFAGGOTS with max graphix.

>>316672685
That's quite well powered anon. The components definitely seem overkill for that cheap monitor. You could try to go 1440p/ 4K with settings turned down a little. There's also the option of downsampling of course. You'd have some serious power to play around with.
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Nvidia
>Better performance
>More efficient
>Better drivers
>Nvidia gameworks
>Gsync
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>>316672685
A 390x costs pennies more than a 390. Also you might want to pay slightly more for a bigger cpu cooler once you start overclocking.
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I really don't understand why anybody would even consider buying a 970 at this point

its like the least future proof card of all time
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>>316662840
390 and 970 offer the same ferformance.
Don't be one of the iditos whos fooled by 2 fps being shown as big difference on a graph.

r9 390 may have 8 gigs of vram but it does way less with it than 970 does with 3.5+0.5

In addition during it's short time of release and less people buying it than nvdia, meaning there being less cards in circulation, there have been tenfold times of problem reports for 390 than 970. 970 also has better OC performance and takes less power. But it's not like it matters.

You wanna get the cart that plays most games? Get either.
Wanna get the card that lets you plya them most of the time without bricking? Get Nvidia
Want a good card? Get either.
Want to be #saviorofindustry? Get AMD

if you get 970, get one with backplate.
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>>316673037
Performance for a good price.
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>>316672965
>>Better performance
>>More efficient
>>Better drivers
>>Nvidia gameworks
>>Gsync
but anon none of that is true...
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>>316673135

yeah and in a year or two when more and more games actually make use of 4GB of vram and it becomes the standard the card will be practically unusable because this is the one time Nvidia fucked up big

most open world games now already do
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>>316673235
Yes it is. I fact checked it.
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>>316673408
>mfw PC casuals trust GEforce experience for optimization and it just turns down settings
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>>316672916
I plan on using the monitor only temporarily until I have enough to blow on a 144hz/4k monitor, at which point the 60hz/1080p will be a second monitor for Battlescreen and shitposting.
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>>316662645
>le 3.5/4
>le no drivers

pick ur poison

I'd just go with the industry standard of 980ti
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FO4 is an Nvidia game?
I wouldn't know I have a 280x and I run Ultra fine, been playing since launch too.
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Because AMD products cause house fires. Pic related, random one I saved from a speccy thread on /v/ a few hours ago. My card doesn't get anywhere near that hot while playing games.
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>>316673647
>980ti
>gets fucked by a 390x 1440p/4k
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>>316662645
I'm going to do a massive explanation.

390 is a rebranded (improved version of) the 290x, and it's going to give you better performance for your money than the 970 in most cases.

It's a hotter and louder card, be aware of this and if you can, check out which version has the quietest cooler. YOU MUST coordinate your cases fan set up to accommodate properly for this card.

390 can take advantage of mantle for a performance boost in certain titles, and freesync monitors. Freesync is a less expensive but just as good version of nvidia's g-sync technology used in monitors to prevent screen tearing and stuttering.

The amd software is much less user friendly than nvidia's, but once you've installed drivers you can pretty much not worry about it, just download the new drivers each update.
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>>316673612
I think downsampling might be for you then in the meantime. That motherboard seemed a bit on the cheap side, does it overclock well? It would be a shame to waste such a nice processor on a motherboard like that. Perhaps you could switch out the SSD for a better MB? There's also using a TV with HDMI and a game mode to save some money on that build. It seems solid, if too luxurious for someone like me, apart from the motherboard.
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Is a r9 380 4gb worth it? I'm kinda of a poorfag and can't go for top cards. I have a gtx 460 now and i can't play shit.
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>>316674203
Look up some benchmarks and make sure it won't get botlenecked by any of your other hardware. You have to remember that buying a graphics card isn't as long term as buying anything else for your system.
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>>316674203
That's damn good for 1080p 60fps, bad optimization would make you turn down to higher settings though. I'm betting you could even dabble in downsampling for less intensive/ older games if your other components were up to snuff.

>>316674294
just overclock everything until it cracks
>my PC's face when
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>>316674294
i have an i5 4690k and 16gb ram so i don't think i will have any bottleneck issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESeFXwGfBsI
performance looks ok to me.
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>>316674570
Then go with what you can afford. I'd recommend looking up discount prices on sickdeals or something.
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>still using a 7850
>no money to upgrade
oh well
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>>316674949
Well, at least you're caught up to this gen of consoles with the option to mess with the settings to balance out your preferred ratio of graphics versus performance. That's always a PC advantage even with PC versions having shit optimization. At least consoles have similar architecture and shit performance on vidya is shit across the board.
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>>316674949
Its still a good card man. Should max out old stuff well at good fps and do decent settings on newer games with good fps. I mean you won't be modding Skyrim much, but that game is fucking mess no matter how much vram you have. Its a good card still.

Honestly if games optimized worth a damn we wouldn't need much than it anyway.
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>>316673750
I don't like my HD 7870 getting to 65, holy shit
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>>316673750

I thought Nvidia were supposed to be the hot ones.
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>>316675572
different generations. NVidia and AMD switch roles in memes every few years.
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>>316673123
>nvidia card 0.1 fps better than an amd one
>lol amd is shit

>amd is 2 fps better
>its not a difference anyway
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>>316675572
Depending on card manufacture they both can be, sometimes it depends on the game. Nvidia were fucking horrid during the last days of single slot cards.

Either have their good and bad points as brands, but manufacture can make more of a difference. Of the OP the 390 is easily better, the 970 will not age as well, costs a few bucks more, and gets similar performance at 1080 but gets left behind above that.
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>>316665770
people always say this, when has it actually happened? when has it ever been more than like 5%
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>>316674037
>does it overclock well
Apparently so, although I'll probably delay OCing until the CPU starts having some trouble, at which point I'll have more than enough to upgrade the MB to something that can take it 100%.
I'm also not seeing many TVs that are over 720p and cheaper than the monitor I picked. I did swap out the 2 TB HDD + 120 GB SSD for a 1 TB HDD and a 1 TB SSHD, so that's a little bit saved there.
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>>316665770
>not even a rough estimate on release quarter yet

you'll be waiting for a long time.
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>>316676089
8800 Nvidia and 7000 HD series on AMD, and that is about the only times.

Its been said about the last several years of cards. I fucking gave up and got one. Honestly a 7850 beats out all 3 consoles so a decent card now will shame for a long while to come. So with so much being multiplatform the only games that may not max out will be rare.
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I'm going to shove a 970 with my i3 2120 because fuck intel, I'm not going to change my mobo every 2 years.
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>>316677046
Honestly that will probably be fine. I know people talk about CPU bottleneck, but honestly a crap motherboard or HDD will likely do that sooner than the CPU unless its really damn underpowered.
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I have a old 6950, I want to upgrade, but should I do it now or wait for the Pascal / Icy?
I don't want to re-upgrade in 8 months.
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>>316677559
Motherboard is fine, I'm probably getting a 120GB SSD because it costs 45 bucks, I don't play more than 1-2 games at once and I have a download speed of 30mb/s.
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>>316671375
no, intel "upgrades" are a meme
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>>316667338
>500w
>1380x970

You're going to get better performance out of a 970. I don't even know if a 290 will cope with a 500W if it's some off-brand either.
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