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Anyone else playing/replaying FO3?

>playing Fallout 3
>suddenly playing Oblivion
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>>316607676
Why not just play 4?
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>>316607913
Waiting for sale
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>>316607676
Why not just play NV?
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>>316607676
Yep. Holy shit it did not age well
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>>316608182
Already played it. Plan to play it next for the DLCs that I never played before.

Damn I came to Oasis without a flamer or shishkebab. What do I do now?
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>>316608293
The bait is real
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Nah, just playing New Vegas, if I wanted to play Fallout 3 I'd play 4.
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>>316607913
Because FO3 is million times better than FO4.
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>>316608561
blow harold up
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>>316608293
>>316608623

I think it's hardly bait, I never thought about it but DC is a big fucking clusterfuck of adventure. It's almost overwhelming how many areas there were to explore.
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>>316609035
Hmm, no explosives either. I guess I'll just go into the caves and hope I don't get fucked.
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>>316608856
This.
At least the world in Fallout 3 had some degree of reactivity to the players actions. For example, if you killed Moriarty, Gob would take over the saloon and Nova would quit being a prostitute.
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>>316609294
I still can't believe Bethesda actually did this to Harold. Talk about twisting the knife in the wound.
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>>316607676

playing fallout 3 for the first time, and got to the "little lamplight" part

i like the atmosphere of the game i guess, but man the combat just sucks complete ass. the shooting is dreadful, i just use VATS every time but its pretty boring. Also the menus feel really clunky and messy to me.
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Thinking of setting up Tale of Two Wastelands or whatever it's called now.

What's the best way to optimize FPS in New Vegas?
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>>316610086
Considering the fact that it was established that a tree was growing on his head as far back as Fallout 2, Harold's fate was inevitable.
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obligatory pic
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>>316610086
>a man with a tree growing out of his head eventually becoming a tree is Bethesda twisting the knife.
God I wish you retards would just leave.
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>>316610659
First thing I thought of too.

So I got a 45 weight unique power armor as a reward but I can't carry this shit. What's the consequences of leaving things on the floor? Is the only permanent "storage" at a "home"?
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>>316610659

Something tells me it was not, mere roleplay...
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Post your favorite Fallout 3 quest lines!
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>>316610659
Bumble > Penny > Maggie > Princess > Lucy > Knock Knock
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>>316611651
Those!
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>>316608856
>fo3 comes out
>contrarians tell you how much better fallout 2 was
>fo4 comes out
>contrarians tell you how much better fallout 3 was

never change /v/, never change.
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>>316611651
Reillys rangers or whatever was pretty gud. Shooting your way towards top of the hotel was nice.
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>>316611651
You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head is up there with Whodunnit? as one of the greatest quests Bethesda has ever made.
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I sure hope you guys are playing this passively ironically since FO4 is already out.
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>>316612940
Why the fuck would I play what's essentially an inferior version of 3?
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>>316612710

But Fallout 2 is better than Fallout 3. Better than 4, too. How is that contrarian?

Saying Fallout 3 is anything but dogshit to make Fallout 4 look worse is, though, they're both utter garbage.
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>>316613348
There's no such thing as an inferior version of 3. Fallout 3 is literally the worst Fallout.
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>>316612710
>fo3 comes out
>contrarians tell you how much better fallout 2 was
That's always been true little shitposter.
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>>316608293
>someone took the time to make this image
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>>316612710
It's still a minority who says that.

No large amount of people have yet to say Oblivion is better than Skyrim, you ebin memer.
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>>316613510
>the worst Fallout
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>>316613348
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>>316613610
Yeah, I know. That's the second worst Fallout.
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>>316613686
It's on every fucking platform. Anyone can play it if they want.
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>>316608856
Is fallout 4 THAT bad?
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>>316613926
idk, for me it loses by default because of voiced protag, shitty dialogue diamond and forced ebin backstory I give zero shits about
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>>316613610
I actually kinda liked that game, at least for a playthrough. Sure i got the game for next to nothing, so my standards weren't exactly high though. Wasn't as good as the console Baldur's Gates but it scratched the itch.

The setting didn't feel like Fallout in anything except the familiar names.
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>>316613926
No, it does a lot of things better than Fallout 3, but ultimately it doesn't feel like much of an RPG. That people are now praising Fallout 3, the worst mainline fallout game, for it's rpg mechanics simply because 4 was so barren in comparison really tells you all you need to know.
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Just got a new comp. Playing NV. May switch to Deus EX HR since I never played it.
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>>316614086
>forced ebin back story
>your married and have a kid, and your either an ex-soldier or lawyer.
You autists need to just stop talking about shit you know nothing about. You can practically form any back story you want from that set up, its just a framing device.
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>>316614239
Thanks for the update.
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>>316607676
my nigga
>MMM
>FWE
>RH_Ironsights
>EVE
>Director's Chair
>NMC_Texture Pack
>Realistic Weapon damages
>DC Interiors
>AWOP

Makes it pretty fun. Too bad it crashes every now and then and there's literally nothing I can do about it. th-thanks bethesda
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Has anyone else refunded fo4 on Steam? How lenient is Steam with refunds? I have 6 hours instead of 2 but I want a refund, not gonna play fo4 again anytime soon.
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>>316614464
Sorry, anon. Ain't gonna happen.
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>>316614464
You can send in a request. They've been known to bend the rules all the time.
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>>316614363
Fuck off shill. The backstory in Skyrim with Guns is even worse than Oblivion with Guns. At least I could influence the life in vault a little.
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>>316608293
you really can't deny that Fallout 3 has a better overworld... for the first few hours at least. NV opens the fuck up after you get some decent equipment and can actually explore it.
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The white house was the biggest let down of the game 2bh
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>>316614674
>Can't refute my point
>Therefore I'm a shill
Neo-/v/ ladies and gentlemen.
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>>316613509
2 and 3 aren't even comparable you nostalgic retard.
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>>316614650
What's the best reason to give to give me the highest chance?
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>>316610086
I thought the whole Harold thing in Fallout 3 was actually one of the better parts of the game.
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>>316614674
Every character in previous fallout games had some sort of backstory, it's just they left it more to the imagination. Vault dweller, Chosen One, the courier, it was all left pretty vague what it was but it was still there.
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>>316614876
The multiplayer doesn't work
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>>316614876
The game is too difficult
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>>316614798
What fucking point? That being limited by one shitty backstory is okay? It's fucking not. Every fucking Fallout except 4 and 3 just give vague basic info about your character. Then comes Bethesda forcing you to personally give a shit about some crap-ass NPCs. Eat shit, alternate start mod can't come soon enough.
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>>316614876
IT FREQUENTLY CRASHES
with no survivors
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>>316614728
I liked it in the sense that it felt like Bethesda was giving the finger to any players that thought they were going to find good loot there.

I mean, outside of the infrastructure, what does the White House have that's of any benefit in a post-apocalyptic society?
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I'm still playing TTW. OP overloards and reavers are starting to piss me off at lv 45. Modded Tri-beam laser rifle with MC MF cells can one shot sneak attack crit reavers though. I just wish it didn't burn through MF cells so quickly, tempted to edit it in geck to only use 1 so I can have some fun with it.

Also the piles of fucking ash and goo that never vanish realkly fucking bother my autism, is there a mod to get rid of them after 48 hours in game time or something, there's nothing worse than seeing x piles of ash where you've been before.
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>>316614876
The thing about the system requirements. They can't check that, and when they put it there as a reason, I guess they accept it as viable grounds for refunds. In this case it's definitely believable because it's horribly optimized.
Just say that you fiddled around with the settings for the 6 hours.
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>>316614876
Frequently crashes, because it's true.
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>>316614985
That's the point. It was vague at best, no fucking details. No "this is your dad/son, please give a shit about him".
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>>316614876
Dunno, I refunded call of juarez like 3 months after buying it with 2,5h gametime, reason "it's not fun"
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>>316615213
The point that it's a fucking framing device, not a backstory. EVERY fallout does this, or you would have to literally spawn in the middle of nowhere with no information.

You fill in the blanks. I know its hard for autists to do stuff like this without a hand to hold but come the fuck on now. Were you this mad when you were a courier, or the chosen one?
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>>316611398
Anyone?
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>>316614446
DC interiors is fucking shit though.
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>>316615307
Pretty sure there is such a mod.

Try some of these

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37573/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37245/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45484/?
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>>316615491
yes
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>>316615518
Yeah kinda. Apart from the completely inept attempts at scaling the interiors with the actual building, I like it though. It's the only mod on the nexus that actually makes it like not every building was plastered shut.
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>>316611398
>>316615491
I honestly don't know. Pretty sure they don't disappear at least in closed cells but I don't know about the open wasteland.
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>>316615307
Those are Bethesda Difficulties: The Enemy.

YUP/TTW fixes fix ashes.
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Don't worry guys my New Vegas thread will be up in a couple hours.
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>>316615265
I don't even think it should even be there. It'd be one of the first targets and should be a big crater post war. Sure it's heavily irradiated but other areas are much worse off.
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>>316615607
Guess I better go nuke megaton or shoot tenpenny for a home then.
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>>316615484
No I was not because I had no backstory, just "job" and my mission. The place I was from might have one, but the character did not.
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What's the best/definitive HD/HR/textures mod?
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>>316615728
You just disarm the bomb for a home. Needs 25 explosives.
Also, stuff doesn't disappear. I've had outcast power armour outside this motorcycle shop since the beginning of the game. Hasn't gone. If you can be arsed, you can carry it with "z" somewhere
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>>316615882
I like NMC Texture Pack with director's chair and Project Reality. Does enough to completely fix any gripes I have with it.
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>>316615934
That's good then. Shits too heavy to keep in the inventory but I also don't want to lose it.
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>>316615853
>Just my job and my mission
>Ex soldier or lawyer and find your son.
>This is somehow different
Admit it. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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Maybe we'll get to look for our mom in Fallout 5
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>>316608293
Cherrypicking at it's finest.
Put even the most bare places from 3 in there, but forgets about all of the places in NV such as Camp McCarran and the Sharecropper farms.
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So with all the insane hype on here for Fallout 4, I decided to play 3, because I liked Morrowind and Oblivion, and I've never played a Fallout game. My brother has the game so I checked it out. And i just don't get it. Things that either confuse me or annoy me about the game:

-The beginning has some intriguing elements but as a tutorial, it's bad. It doesn't properly show you the mechanics of anything. I feel like I had to learn it all over again when I got out of the vault.
-The shooting controls are just really bad. Makes the game nearly unplayable for me. Meanwhile, all the enemies seem to shoot with near perfect accuracy.
-The "limbs can be damaged" system feels unnecessary and tacked on. Makes things seem needlessly complex.
-It always feels like I never have enough ammo.
-The entire world is so grey that it's just downright boring looking.

Are these legitimate criticisms of the game, or am I just a shitty casual? I find the game almost broken, like it seems like its in the pre-alpha stage still. I dont understand why Fallout 4 was so hyped. Combining crappy shooting controls with ammo conservation is just dreadful to me
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>>316608103
You could get it for 20% off on greenmangaming before release.
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>shittsburgh
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>>316616368
fo3 wasn't hyped everyone hated it. They just didn't think fo4 could actually be any worse. So in comparison fo3 looks great now.
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>>316608293
So the DC Metro is a metropolitan area, and Las Vega Strip is a strip of road. This is exactly as it is in real life. You don't wander off the Vegas strip blindly now unless you wanna get fucked up.
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>>316616069

>You have been hired to deliver this package
>You got shot doing so

vs.

>You are a war veteran
>You have a suburban home in Sanctuary Hills
>You married a lawyer
>You had a son which you named Shaun
>The bombs dropped and you were cryogenically frozen
>Your wife was shot and your son was kidnapped

Somehow you think those are equivalent.
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>>316616368
>-It always feels like I never have enough ammo.
This is definitely you just being a casual

>-The "limbs can be damaged" system feels unnecessary and tacked on. Makes things seem needlessly complex.
This is true, the only real use for it in Fallout 3 is crippling Deathclaw legs. You can heal your personal crippled limbs with stimpaks, anyway. They just tacked it on because hey, Fallout 1 and 2 had it.

FO3 is generally not a very good game and the combat is absolutely garbage in it. You can practically skip it just by abusing VATS, at least.
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>>316616368
>-The "limbs can be damaged" system feels unnecessary and tacked on. Makes things seem needlessly complex.
Not really. Shooting legs slows them down which can help. Shooting arms/weapons can potentially make them drop their weapon and turn the fight into a joke with them running head first into your bullets or beams.
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>>316608293
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>>316614676
I actually like this about New Vegas a lot.

I mean, you can still bypass it if you really want to. But the way the opening is directed (half open-half linear) is very smart and does a great point introducing the major points in the game.

Really hyped me up to see Vegas from hearing the talk of it.

Once I got out I followed that robot into the entrance strip for about half an hour or how long that takes hehehe
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>>316616516
>fo3 wasn't hyped everyone hated it.
Yeah, in /v/. Most people like/love it outside of here. I have even seen people seriously saying that Fallout 3 is one of the best games they have played.
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>>316616520
You forgot something about the courier you sad little shitposter.
>Walked through an area, creating a town and then blowing it the fuck up. Creating a mortal enemy in the process who ideologically opposes everything you stand for.
Shut the fuck up already.
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>>316614876
"My issue isn't listed"


If prompted, say you are a cheap motherfucker
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>>316616368
The ammo part is not true. I'm playing with a mod that makes it less plentiful, and adds weight, and I have a shit ton. It's all about being smart with it.
It does look bad. That's true.
I just use mods on PC. Fixes it up, gets rid of the ugly green tint, etc...
I liked the limb system. They carried it over from the previous. I think it would have been nice though to make it more unforgiving, but more rare. (Can't just fix with stimpak etc...) But it's cool to use on enemies. It's a nice way to exploit weaknesses, e.g by shooting deathclaw's legs.
For shooting, I agree. I do 10X better with a mod that adds NV's ironsights to all weapons.
I don't think you're a casual. It's an awkward game that's pretty subjective.
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>the moralfag route involves getting ghouls to ransack tenpenny tower and kill 50 innocent rich people
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>>316616368
They are mostly legitimate criticims, and, believe it or not, have been said and confirmed on this board hundreds of times ever since its release.

I mean, you obviously haven't bothered with the franchise before, so I'll refrain from saying "yeah no shit". But I'll leave it implied with my post, even though I don't judge you for it.

It's not like Fallout 4 retroactively made Fallout 3 good. It's just an amazing contrast how Fallout 3, a game that did so much wrong yet was THIS hyped, and Fallout 4 was even WORSE than that. That said, they are still alright shallow timesinks.

Also, New Vegas shares most of those flaws but makes up for it with better writing, better characters, a few simple but necessary tweaks to the gameplay and a generally nicer world. They pretty much did the best they could do with what they had to work with.
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Are China and the US the only two countries that were fucked up in the great war? What's everyone else doing?
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>>316616661
I don't even care if its right or not, I love these
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>>316616887
>yfw tenpenny towers = europe
>ghouls = refugees
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>>316616749

What the fuck are you talking about?
>creating a town
Unless you want to say you didn't. You're capable of telling Ulysses "I didn't do any of that, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about" if you want.

Even still, okay, so your entire backstory is you have delivered, at the minimum, two packages. Big deal.
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>>316616368

In my opinion, if a shooter doesnt have lock on targeting its probably garbage. The only other way is to have big hitboxes like in doom.
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>>316616887
>Kill dickhead ghouls
>evil

>Take over tower
>evil

>let dickhead ghouls take over tower
>good

Nigga what.
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>>316616318
Camp MacCarren is literally on the bottom
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>>316616921
Nuked as well apparently. Europe fought with itself etc.
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>>316616661
man I loved playing caravan. The way they "explained" the rules in the game was beyond sloppy, but after looking it up and giving it some time, I think it's actually a fun as fuck minigame.

I am a sucker for card collecting minigames, and this allows you to actually make a deck, out of normal playing cards, which I think is cool as fuck. It's a fun game.
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>>316616850
What the fuck is that?
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>>316617181
Stop it anon.

You make me feel bad I didn't have the attention span for it
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>>316617110

It sure as fuck doesn't list all of the interior locations connected to the strip. No Lucky 38, no Gomorrah, no Tops, no LVB station, no White Gloves, no Michael Angelo's shop, no Vault 21, no NCR embassy...

Not to mention Freeside, North Vegas, and all of the fucking sewers underneath.
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>>316607676
I actually went back to Skyrim after realizing that for all its flashiness, FO4 really only has like a third of the amount of content that vanilla had. Been playing as a strong as fuck werewolf and I spent the last few hours tossing giants around.
Besides, everybody knows you gotta wait a year so all the good mods and DLC come out for Bethesda games.
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>>316617181
You must have adored Pazaak in KoTOR
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>>316617487
>Besides, everybody knows you gotta wait a year so all the good mods and DLC come out for Bethesda games.
This.
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>>316613562
Are you literally underage or something?
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>>316617059
>So you're entire backstory is delivering two packages
We still haven't even addressed the shot in the head thing or the platinum chip fiasco. Fallout has always had s "backstory", you're nitpicking.
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>>316617487
Oh man is that fucking true about Fallout 4

They've got a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of stuff to fix.
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>>316608856
Factually false.
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How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves with no intelligent leadership? It took The Master years to perfect the dipping process

How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves when anyone they kidnap would die instantly to the 3,600 rads/second at the entrance of the vault

What experimental conditions were Vault-Tec trying to test by locking up a bunch of people with a massive amount of extremely dangerous mutagenic virus? How to kill the fuck out of everything as fast as possible?

How and why does Vault-Tec even have any FEV at all? Did Bethesda honestly confuse West-Tek with Vault-Tec?

How does Col Autumn get inside Vault 87?

Why is a GECK now a matter manipulation device and why is such a powerful tool being wasted on making a water purifier?

How does using an unstable and extremely dangerous GECK matter manipulation device that can easily explode and destroy everything around it make for a water purification system? Water filtration is infinitely easier than transmuting atoms.

How does Dad even know what a GECK is and plan a machine to use a component he has never seen or used before? He may as well have designed the water purifier to use unobtainium.

Why does your father design a purification machine that is capable of dumping all its radioactive filtrate into the control room as a "trap"? Was Dad a psychopath? How is the radiation trap even possible when the purifier is not even complete at that point and not active?
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>>316617310
never seen a penis before?
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>>316617770
I read the logs in the vault. They were trying to make a super human soldier kind of thing.
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>>316617604

>We still haven't even addressed the shot in the head thing or the platinum chip fiasco. Fallout has always had s "backstory", you're nitpicking.

It's not nitpicking. You're incapable of separating "thing that happened" from "thing my character has chosen of their own volition."

FNV character got shot in the head. That is a thing that happened, which can be applied to the values of my current character. A retard tribal, a cunning thief, a BoS fanboy who jerks off to energy weapons, all of these characters are capable of being shot in the head, because that is a thing that can happen.

Getting married is not a thing that happens beyond people's control. It's a choice, an active action based on values and decisions made prior to my taking control. The F4 character chose to get married, chose to move to suburbia, chose to have a kid. These aren't things that just happen to people beyond their control. They're characterizations based on values, and they limit what kind of character you can create.
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>>316617487
>FO4 really only has like a third of the amount of content that vanilla had.
Lol no, Skyrim is the worst game Bethesda has ever made.
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>>316617770
>How does Dad even know what a GECK is and plan a machine to use a component he has never seen or used before?
There were logs in the first vault that had notes about the Geck.
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>>316616661
>Fox News Liberty Prime

10/10
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>>316618249
I'm not him, and I know I'm cherrypicking your post, but I would like to point out that you can have a kid by accident.
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>>316616661
>Obsidianfags this delusional pretending NV is so different from FO3

I lose all my love for New Vegas when I see you faggots posting.
I dont want no part in this mad gay shit.
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Fallout 4 has the best mechanics and enviroments in the series. It has the worst dialogs and dialog mechanics though and not that much content.
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>>316619412
>the best mechanics
Where are my skills
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>>316619412
>no alternate ammo
shit game
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>>316619481
Yes, the perk system is definitely worse.
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>>316619705
What? You can even modify the alien blaster to use fusiong cells.
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>>316614470
is that shopped jesus
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>>316616504
Never played The Pitt, was it good?
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>>316619913
hell if I know, just starting. So far, slavers.
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>>316619412
> It has the worst dialogs
That would be Fallout 3. I'm not saying that the dialogue is good in Fallout 4, but it sure as hell isn't as bad as it was in Fallout 3.
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>>316619913
It's pretty cool.
It's a little bit shallow though aside from the main story.
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>>316619804
hollowpoints, AP, etc
instead we get this borderlands tier shit
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>>316616370
Sorry, waiting for the complete game to go on sale. I'm not being tenned and twentied six times again with DLC
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>>316620429
I don't mean the writing itself but that the dialogs are made with a character in mind.
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Literally JUST finished my first playthrough of FO3.
Had it in my library for like 2 years and decided to play it now because of the FO4 hype.
The game was pretty easy and kinda boring, all I did was power through the main questline asap. I also have NV but I'm not sure if it's worth the time investment, is it?

Oh and what do you think of my character?
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Soo this is like Skyrim where everybody bashes it at first and then it becomes like the most played game of all time right?
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>>316620926
Did you play the original Fallouts?

New Vegas is mostly the same gameplaywise (with refinement) but it is a step up in story and world building
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>>316620941
shut the fuck up, you have zero idea what you're even talking about
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>>316621082
:(
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>>316620926
>all I did was power through the main questline asap
>and kinda boring
no shit
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>>316614876
it's not fun
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>>316620926
You disgust me. It ain't a race, man. No wonder it was boring.
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Can I use Project Nevada with FO3 If I'm using TTW?
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>>316608103
It's on sale on piratebay right now.
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>>316616516
>fo3 wasn't hyped everyone hated it.

Bullshit, back in 2008 everybody was having fun with it, I know it because I posted a lot in those threads.
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>>316622207
It's so fun pirating it. Having to get a new one after updates.
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>>316612710
>FO2
>not still indefinitely better than gamebryo garbage

2 > 1 > NV > 4 > 3
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>>316617770
NICE
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>>316620926
>I also have NV but I'm not sure if it's worth the time investment, is it?
NV has much better writing and more branching options when it comes to quests and different factions / endings, but retains most of the core gameplay mechanics of FO3, albeit with slight improvements and more diversity when it comes to builds and gear. You might like it more, but if you're already sick of playing FO3 you probably won't enjoy NV very much.
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currently playing New Vegas for the first time
its fun
and there seems to be a huge difference to fallout 3 in the writing department which is nice bethesda did a good thing with new vegas

not sure if i should get fallout 4 for ps4 my computer doesnt run fallout 4
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>>316623327
>bethesda did a good thing with new vegas
Not developing it was the best thing they could possibly do.
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>>316623327
>bethesda did a good thing with new vegas
Bethesda didnt make New Vegas thats why it's so good.
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I installed TTW awhile ago, currently going through 3. Just got the power armor at fort constantine, gonna be nice being OP in NV so I can focus more on the story and less on crashes or having shitty guns.
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>>316623327
>bethesda did a good thing with new vegas

is dis nigga srs
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Unfortunately no, I can't get Oblivion to run on Windows 10.
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>>316623835

Does TTW uses NV skills for FO3? because vanilla FO3 skill system was awful
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>>316623327
No, you fucking retard.
>playing any of the fallout games without mods
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>2021
>fallout 6 is released
>"anyone else here still playing fallout 4?"
>"in hindsight, fallout 4 was pretty good"
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>>316623943
The Fallout 3 content is loaded as a plugin for NV so it uses all the game mechanics from New Vegas, including skills and perks.
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>>316623327
This is some obscure form of bait, well done anon.
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>>316624213

Oh thanks Jesus then
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>>316612710
Mate, Fallout 2 is better than F3, NV and F4 combined, so what's your fucking point?
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>>316616661

Good, now compare the console trash to FO1/2.

People who argue whether FO4/3/NV are better are like arguing over who is the smartest retard in the Special Olympics.
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>tfw want Danse's perk, but don't want to join the BoS
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>>316624575
look up the perk's name, then do help "perk name" 0 and then player.addperk "perk id"
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>>316616921
They were already fucked before the war. Society was all but collapsed by 2077, with just the US (including Mexico and Canada, they got annexed) and China barely holding on.
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>>316624187
This.
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>>316616850
Labia isn't bad tbf
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