I can get New Vegas and ever FO3, but why anyone would play Fallout 4 when this fucking thing exists is beyond me.
>that music
>that writing
>those npcs
fuck
>>316597140
>>316597302
Fallout 1 and 2 are better than 4 in pretty much every case.
>>316597302
This.
>>316597302
I playing fallout 1 and 2 for the first time this year and they are fantastic.
>>316597302
I played the first two games maybe 6 years ago. Not much nostalgia involved.
>>316597302
Nice counter argument chuckles.
>>316597302
It's not tho, they have shit graphics and some outdated design, never mind the fact that people who like em probably completed them. But overall they ARE better RPG's than 3 and 4.
>>316597302
Funny how you are the one who's ignorant enough to completely ignore the good things about Fallout 1 and 2.
>>316597140
fun fact: if you put your intelligence at 1 in fallout 1/2 you have almost identical dialogue options as in fallout 4
>>316597729
HATE MASTER
SUPPORT HORRIGAN
>more memes than in Borderlands
>rapes the lore of Fallout 1 more than FO3/4 ever did
>lmao talking deathclaws dude
>lmao ghosts and telepathic shamans
>lol san fran is now kung fu city epic!!
Low point of the series desu
>>316597729
Fun fact:
if you change your int to 1 or 2 in Fallout 4nothing happens
I always did like FO2 more than 1, it seemed fuller and more lively. It always surprises me how strongly people usually disagree.
>>316597140
because i dont like that gay camera angle and it doesnt support a controller
>>316597302
rekt
>>316597140
Go back to bed grampa.
>>316597886
Shhhh don't bring facts into this discussion.
>>316598552
FO1 was more serious so I guess they hated that 2 was overall more humorous. I want to personally kill anyone who calls it a meme game though. Not that the phrase makes sense at all.
>>316599772
I had no idea people hated the humor in Fallout 2. I always considered the tone to be the staple of the series.
>>316597302
Son, who are you kidding here? Yourself? The series is on constant downslide ever since Tactics
>>316600131
It was essentially dead with Tactics, but then Beth saw an opportunity to copy paste Oblivion with a grey pallette and guns instead of magic.
>>316599772
Dude, the game's literally full of 90s memes
>Install Fallout 1
>can't figure out the controls after 1 minute
>uninstall
If I wanted to read shit I'll grab a book tyvm.
>>316600131
More like ever since 1
>>316600418
Lowest tier bait. If you're gonna try to pretend to be a retard then at least be subtle.
>>316600418
you control with the mouse
>>316600515
I'm not baiting faget.
I played New Vegas and I loved it so I decided to give the original games a try. Kept clicking but nothing happened so I uninstalled. Don't have the kind of patience to read a manual for a 30 year old game, sorry.
I installed 2 yesterday after /v/ started shitting on 4 and told me to play the old Fallouts to see what they are "supposed to be like".
I literally can't kill the first two ants. It's impossible. I've died to them more than 10 times in a row now.
This is fucking ridiculous. There's nothing I can do. If this is what the old Fallout were like, I'd rather stick with the new ones.
Picture related as proof that I'm not just shitposting for the sake of it
>>316597140
you like it just because it got more memes and LOL SO FUNNY xD references than borderlands2
>>316597140
The fact that you can "get" FO3 makes it painfully obvious you're just going off what you've read on /v/. After playing 4, I could never play 3 again. It's a better designed game all around. Even NV would be difficult. The only saving grace is the writing and characters are still better.
desu baka senpai
>>316600739
Holy shit you are a casual
>>316597302
This is actually incorrect. I've been playing Fo1 and 2 on a constant basis ever since maybe 2007 where i first learned about it and never really considered it nostalgiafaggotry that I liked it.I played fo3 before fo1
>>316600739
>1 agi
>big guns
>bruiser
not even sure if you're baiting or really that dumb
>>316600739
>ag 1
just install Fallout 1 and use one of those pre-made characters, they are good for 1st time players
>>316600905
What am I supposed to do? I have nothing to heal myself with. I have a spear in my inventory, but I can't use it for some reason. I guess I could run away, but just the fact that my 6 str character can't punch some fucking ants to death is pretty fucking dumb.
>>316600739
Why did you copy+paste the same shit from yesterday's thread?
>>316600739
>dump agl
>pe9 with 9% small guns
no one could be this dumb
>>316597302
Fallout 4 fanboys are the most belligerent out there, they are borderline ISIS when it comes in not being able to take any form of criticism on their game.
It wasn't like this, up to New Vegas, FO1/2 discussions were still very welcome in any FO thread, but now with FO4, there's this massive butthurt and flaking to anyone who dares insult the holy Fallout 4.
>>316600418
I see you are going for a low int build irl
>>316597140
>that inventory
>those dr who references
>that town navigation
>that intro
>that like two hours before you get a non-shit gun
>>316601032
He's pretending to be retarded obviously so that he can trol u XD
I will never understand how acting stupid is enjoyable to someone even when bored.
>>316601153
>>that like two hours before you get a non-shit gun
You could get your first weapon in less than 20 minutes if just rushed to Klamath.
>>316600739
I picture your character, this pretty buff handsome guy with no shirt, just trying his damnedest to smash these two stupid ants but he just cannot.
He's standing there clumsily trying to crush them under foot, failing every time while the ants slowly chew his asshole off.
Someone will find his body, wondering what had transpired there. How could such a normal functional man die like that to such a menial creature ?
He must have been a clumsy fuck.
>>316601085
kek
>>316600739
>1 agility
>bruiser
>big guns
>repair
>>316597302
I played FO3 first and it's my least favorite one.
In fact I dislike it, much more than FO4.
I got FO1 and 2 for free on GOG and they're great.
>b-but muh memes
>>316601226
this
>>316597886
>rapes the lore of Fallout 1 more than FO3/4 ever did
fucking dindus got interneto again
>>316599958
Fallout 2 was the only game in the series that had its tone.
>>316597886
>>rapes the lore of Fallout 1 more than FO3/4 ever did
>>316597886
always that one retard that knows shit about the game, but spits it like he was born in the 20th century. die twink scum
>>316601461
what is new vegas
>>316601461
FO3 and NV tried to replicate it in small tastes.
>>316601382
>vaults are actually wacky social experiments!
>the vault dweller started a village after killing master and after 80 or so years they're all retarded tribals who don't know shit about anything and treat the guy like he was some sort of a messiah
>>316597140
>why anyone would play [CONSOLE FPS WITH RPG ELEMENTS] when [90s PC ISOMETRIC RPG] exists is beyond me
are you simple
>>316601705
>>the vault dweller started a village after killing master and after 80 or so years they're all retarded tribals who don't know shit about anything and treat the guy like he was some sort of a messiah
you have that shit in america now, and we ain't even having fallout
>>316600739
This has to be shitposting, right? In FO1/2 Agility is extremely important, it accounts for a lot more than in the newer games, such as being able to attack more than once. Second, where the fuck is your spear? You just drag it and drop it into your hand in the inventory screen, it's not hard.
Your stats are kind of fucked. Grab 10 agility and 9 intelligence, they're the most important. Agilty gives you more AP to perform actions and increases your armor class, making you harder to hit. Since it's at one, then no doubt the ant will hit you every single time. Perception is way too high. Really, you don't want any stats below 5 (except maybe strength, I'd go with 4) since dialogue/non-combat is a huge part of the game. You can even fuck people to get money or car upgrades, but only as female. I took Agility at 9 my first playthrough for some extra points. Int gives you more points and lots of dialogue.
FO1/2 are fantastic but they're unwieldy since they're so old. Lots of good traits of RPGs, especially characters. I got through the entirety of Fallout 1 with Dogmeat, shit was hard but well worth it, if not just to bond with man's best friend.
>>316601639
Yea, as a trait you could pick in the beginning.
>>316601701
Not really. Fallout 3 went out of their way to be closer to the original than 2 since they found the humour in 2 lackluster with the ebin memes and such.
>>316600397
>90s memes
>That's what millenians actually believe
>>316602273
you didn't think the kings, or no-bark, or the entirety of old world blues, or the legion had that same sense of bizarre creativity that fo2 had? I don't know man, that's why I like 2 and NV the most
>>316602273
I get the feeling that you're one of the people who still gets upset over Borderlands being criticized for its memes so you look for any other title with references or easter eggs to brand as "memes" in order to negate that criticism.
Would this be accurate?
I mean I don't know for sure, but I do know other posters have done this before a lot in defense of Borderlands 2 among others, sometimes they bring up Fallout 2, sometimes it's Duke 3D but it's always a classic game with humor people actually like.
>>316600739
>Doing bait character
>Surprised he can't do shit
Son, you are not even trying
>>316600739
>1 Agi
>Bruiser
>Tagged Big guns
>>316602531
got any more fallout ones?
>>316601501
>>316601382
>taking bait this obvious
Damn /v/
>>316600739
oh, you again?
>>316600739
> 1 agi
Just fuck my character up senpai
>>316600690
You know you can't play it with a pad right
>>316601004
equip the spear
make a better character
kill yourself
>>316603437
>equip the spear
>it requires 4 AP to use
>he has 3 AP
solid advice buddy
>>316602506
Nothing of that comes close to the Chosen One telling someone that they're not playing the European version of Fallout 2.
>>316602582
You feel wrong and I have no idea what Borderlands have to do with the fact that Fallout 3 mainly draw its inspiration from 1 and not 2 when it comes to tone.
>>316597625
No anon. Stop.q
Why did they remove the fucking Skills and Factions in Fallout 4?
The whole perk tree system is such a fucking mess, holy shit. The writing is so bad as well, and the voice acting is mediocre as fuck.
Will we ever get a good fallout game again?
>>316605048
>Why did they remove the fucking Skills and Factions in Fallout 4?
Because it was too difficult for dudebros to understand, that's why they streamlined everything so a wider audience could get into the series as well.
Beautiful, isn't it?
>>316605048
No because this sold gangbusters.
>>316605048
How did you not expect less RPG elements. Every game they brought out misses more shit.
>>316605257
I expected half of what /v/ was saying to be shit overblown out of proportion or just memes.
I'm glad I fucking pirated holy shit. Dodged a god damn bullet there. I had no expectations for it whatsoever but I'm still disappointed by how bad the game is.
>>316600739
playing 2 when 1 exists
2 fags are the worst
>>316597467
Artificial nostalgia induced by reading other peoples opinions of the games.
>>316597140
Help me /v/ I hace Fallout 1 and 2 sitting in my library.
Never played a Fallout game before, of those 2, which game is better for a newcomer to the series?
>>316605332
>skyrim
>hurr durr they are overblowing shit they surely didnt remove half of the shit
>they did
>fallout 4
>hurr durr they are overblowing shit they surely didnt remove half of the shit
>they did
Also reading any review would have told you this.
>>316600739
>trying to make a melee build
>6 strength
The living proof that evolution can work in reverse.
>>316597886
>>316601705
>>vaults are actually wacky social experiments!
>>the vault dweller started a village after killing master and after 80 or so years they're all retarded tribals who don't know shit about anything and treat the guy like he was some sort of a messiah
These aren't lore rape because unlike Fallout 3's BoS, Jet, etc. there isn't anything in a previous Fallout directly contradicting it. They're just new plot points.
>>316605532
Incase you haven't noticed, I hate Bethesda as much as the next guy.
I've never bought a Bethesda game. I played like 9 hours of Skyrim before I got bored and noticed how shit the game was.
I disliked Fallout 3 when it came out, I just wasn't expecting Fallout 4 to be as terrible as it is.
>>316605494
Objectively 1. It isn't all that long either. You'll appreciate 2 more after playing through it.
>>316605494
Play Fallout 1 then 2, it's not rocket surgery.
>>316605559
Where are you seeing the melee? Besides, 6 strength more than enough strength for literally any build in FO2.
>>316605721
He took bruiser, which I assumed meant he was going for a melee build. Who would take a trait that works counter-intuitively to the build they are trying to make?
Either way, his build is pretty shit no matter what he was going for.
>>316605843
Bruiser's just +2 strength.
>>316605494
The first one. Apart from the obvious reasons, 2's interface also has a bunch of small, but important improvements that are missing from 1 and WILL annoy the everloving shit out of you if you play them in reverse order
>>316605626
Im just saying I find /v/ to be right on the money if you read between the lines. Things like FO4, biocock infinite and MGSV had the problems they mentioned. And while some are still enjoyable (start of biocock, MGSV) things like FO4 are just pathetic.
Just look at the opening of FO4, they invited people who didnt know shit
>>316605686
I asked because sequels tend to improve the gameplay from previous games. I'll play Fallout 1, any tips?
>>316605895
Yeah, at the cost of 2 AP which is very fucking important in Fallout. His bait build will be completely unable to fire most guns and swing most melee weapons in the game
>>316597302
Except previous fallout games were good when they came out. FO4 is bad from the start.
>>316606083
install res mod and go
>>316606124
He could use Psycho and Jet to temporarily gain a total of 7 AP which is more than enough to shoot big guns
>>316606083
Resolution mod for 1, then go crazy, don't expect the game to teach you anything with tutorials, since back then this shit came in the form of robust manuals for people to read.
>>316597302
>Never played Fallout 1/2 until a month ago
>No nostalgia towards it whatsoever
>Still enjoyed it infinitely more than 3 and NV
I'm going to play 4 but I'm ready for disappointment.
>>316606083
The Gifted trait is ezmode if you're into that, and never pick the XP related perks because they're a big fat waste of time. Other than that, good luck. You can reasonably expect to complete the game with most builds out there, the endgame is surprisingly easy
>>316606336
>>Still enjoyed it infinitely more than 3 and NV
Only because the hardcore cool guys on NMA, RPGCodex and /v/ told that you should
>>316606458
I don't even know what the first two are, and I ignore most of what /v/ has to say because everyone has shit taste but me.
>>316597140
the first fallout games aren't fun
fallout 4 is fun
i owned fallout 1 and played 2. never liked them that much. fallout 2 is one of the biggest cash grabs in video game history, with literally zero new assets, it just reuses everything from the first game. if it came out today some of you would fucking spontaneously combust from your rage.
>>316606157
Gotcha, now in terms of character build? Which stats are more important? Can I go blind without fear that my build will be useless after a part of the game?
>>316606605
You're buttfucking retarded.
>fallout 2
>10 minutes into the game you're still stuck in the shitty tutorial level trying to escape from ants and tiny scorpions you can't hit at all
>fallout 4
>10 minutes into the game you're in a power armor killing a deathclaw using a minigun you literally ripped out of a vertibird
I think we all know which game is superior
>>316606605
>literally zero new assets
This is how you identify someone who only played Fallout 3 onwards
>>316606818
oh im sorry it has the starting temple those are new tiles.
then literally entire rest of the game is reused fo1 assets.
the first fallout games had character but they were bad. real niggas were too busy playing quake and diablo at that time btw.
>>316601705
>>the vault dweller started a village after killing master and after 80 or so years they're all retarded tribals who don't know shit about anything and treat the guy like he was some sort of a messiah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
>>316606083
>>316606606
Agility is the most important stat.
Strength doesn't need to be above 6 (and you can get by with less).
You don't need to start with a 10 in anything.
The Small Guns skill is important even if you plan on using a different weapon type later on, but since it covers sniper rifles you can just stick with it for the whole game if you want.
In short, don't do what >>316600739 did. Also Bruiser is shit.
>>316606801
Yeah, Fallout 2 all the way
>>316606606
Agility gives you action points. You need 1 to move a grid and 4-5 to shoot a gun, and 5-6 for an aimed shot. 1 agility is 5 AP, 2 is 6 AP, 4 is 7 AP and so on. Try not to gimp yourself with 1 agility like that one anon.
Also you're literally a retard if your intelligence is 3 or less and will have a terrible time on a first playthrough.
Also weapons have strength requirements. 5 should cover most stuff, and you can get strength buffs from a lot of things like power armor.
Other than that, not much. You might want to google the original manual, it would tell you all this.
>>316606606
Intelligence opens up a plethora of extra dialogue options, and Agility is probably the most important combat stat because it lets you do more things in one turn. But yeah, unless you make a full retard troll build like that one anon in this thread, you should be able to make it.
Don't tag Big Guns though, the idea of miniguns and rocket launchers is enticing until you realize how shitty they are in Fallout 1. The minigun does dick all damage to anything with even the tiniest bit of armor, unless you score a crit and everything in the fire cone just spontaneously explodes, the bazooka is single shot and not that damaging in the long run, and the flamer is buttfuck heavy to lug around and has no range. Fallout 2 makes the heavy weapons much more viable.
>>316606801
Yeah, it was Fallout 1 where deathclaws were nigh invulnerable monsters and the first encounter was a pants-shittingly horrifying experience in having your entire party wiped, instead of some circus attraction you just casually ice 10 minutes into the game
>>316607440
>starts fallout 1 with 1 agi
these are the new age /v/ 90s worshippers who talk about how great fo1 was without having played it
btw i was an adolescent/teen in the 90s it was fuckin awesome you had to be there. i even had a dank computer the whole time AND all the consoles. ama about the 90s ;) ;)
>>316600739
Even with a Turbo Plasma Rifle you can still only fire once per turn.
Kill yourself, then stop reposting this image, then kill yourself again.
>>316607440
>You might want to google the original manual, it would tell you all this.
It also has Fallout themed recipes you can try out irl!
honestly first time ever in a FO game I actually avoid talking to npcs in 4, it's become a chore for it go into cinematic mode and the boring dialog wheel
Newfag here, I tried playing Fallout 1 for the first time but I couldn't get a grasp around all the game mechanics. I didn't grow up with older, top-down/isometric PC WRPGs so I had a lot of trouble understanding all the shit in the game.
So what's a good way to learn the game without spoiling myself with guides? Would like to experience the game the same way everyone else did back in the day.
Played 1 today. Other than moving and attacking being tedious, I just gave up when it told me my 10mm weapon was out of ammo even though I blatantly had 10mm bullets left, and there was no obvious way to reload, or even a control scheme.
>>316608156
read the manual
>the concept of reading the manual is now foreign
it isn't even your fault, but damn.
>>316608156
Well pressing F1 gives you a quick cheatsheet for hotkeys.
They also assumed you actually read the manual in the 90s, so you might want to take a look at that.
Maybe looking at some let's play for the first hour or so would give you an idea how things work.
>>316608156
Just play it, that's the best way to learn it. No kidding.
>>316597140
Better graphics.
Better gameplay(VATS etc.)
Better sound design
Voice Acting.
>>316608156
>>316608264
R T F M
T
F
M
http://pablotron.org/files/fallout-manual.pdf
>>316597140
Fallout 1 and 2 are shit, anybody who likes them are pretty much just nostalgia fags.
>v tells me to play fallout 1 and 2
>play the game
>you missed
>the enemy missed
>you missed
>the enemy missed
>you missed
>the enemy missed
>you missed
>the enemy missed
Truly nice game
>>316608264
>and there was no obvious way to reload, or even a control scheme.
>Right click the slot the weapon is
>Click on ''Reload''
wow so hard
>>316608265
>>316608424
I just pirated the game so it didn't come with a pdf of the manual, will definitely check it out. Thanks
>>316608497
Real intuitive game design
Oh geez is this the new "Le better old game" meme. It took you guys years to accept morrowind was shit
>>316597140
I actually think the game's boring. The story sucked, combat was just a snorefest, and the places in the world felt even more disconnected from each other than in modern Fallouts.
>>316608458
This guys reasoning is bad but he's right. Fallout as a series has never been good.
>>316608458
it gets badass later on
the reason fo1 was good was because it was something new. there wasn't any other game like it. when you have a chaingun later and you're exploding dudes into pieces, with some of the craziest gore that had ever been shown in games at that point, its awesome
going back to them in 2015 is pointless. if you want to play a game with combat like that, then play a superior game like final fantasy tactics. if you want to play it for the story, then that's your prerogative, but the gameplay ISN'T good, it was just cool when it was new.
>>316608583
Your fault for not reading the manual.
>>316608583
>Want to open a new tab
>Right click it and hit open new tab
>Hey maybe right click shows a menu of things I can do with the thing I just clicked!
>>316597140
>found out about Restoration Project
oh shit senpai it's on
>>316608424
>If one leg is crippled, you will find it more difficult to move (taking more Action Points to move the same distance). It will also be impossible to run. If both legs are crippled, you will barely be able to move. Running will still be impossible. Out of combat, your character will look like he or she is walking normally, but this is a sham to protect yourself from dangerous predators. Get to a doctor quickly!
lmbo
>>316606606
I always do the same build in Fallout games. Raise you intelligence for extra skill points each level and more dialog options.
Raise agility for more action points.
Tag small guns because they are both plentiful at the start and have a nice range. Switch to energy weapons or big guns later in the game.
Tag lockpick for the loot, and tag speech for the dialog options. Don't forget to drop some points in science here and there for later in the game.
>>316608583
I love when underage shits on /v/ use terms like "intuitive"
>>316600982
They are terrible for first time players.
Or any players.
>>316607640
>Don't tag Big Guns though, the idea of miniguns and rocket launchers is enticing until you realize how shitty they are in Fallout 1. The minigun does dick all damage to anything with even the tiniest bit of armor, unless you score a crit and everything in the fire cone just spontaneously explodes, the bazooka is single shot and not that damaging in the long run, and the flamer is buttfuck heavy to lug around and has no range. Fallout 2 makes the heavy weapons much more viable.
It's not that bad. You can make a combat build for FO1 off of anything, including Big Guns, and while it won't be your usual Turbo Plasma crit goodness, you can still have some fun with it.
Flamer is my new favourite weapon in FO2, it's just too good for dealing with trash encounters.
>>316608739
>story
>Fallout
Story in Fallout is pretty barebones; the game's main strength was the worldbuilding, really.
>>316610175
Then again, Fallout does bait you into thinking that your high Speech diplomat character needs Charisma for anything.
>>316597886
Why do people hate the talking deathclaws so much? I thought they were pretty cool
>>316606458
Fallout 1 and 2 are far from being "hardcore" games under any category.
It's ROLE PLAY. Jesus Christ.
FO1 & FO2 are the better RPGs but Fallout 3, NV and Fallout 4 are the better games overall.
Objectively.
>>316610630
>1 and 2
>don't have Bethesda's shitty Gamebryo engine
>3, NV, 4
>have Bethesda's shitty Gamebryo engine
>>316610630
What does that even mean? FO3, NV and 4 aren't RPGs?
>>316611023
4 sure as hell isn't.
>>316608458
do you know what rpgs are
>>316610630
>these are better roleplaying games but those are better games
what the fuck are you talking about
Is there a way to play this on your android phone? I really want to play it on the road
>>316597302
>implying FPS shooters are better than isometric turn-based RPGs
i fucking hate the young generation who has poisoned gaming
>>316602506
You can.
>>316611416
if you have a fairly nice phone you can emulate windows to play the first two, though I can't imagine it'd be fun
http://www.androidauthority.com/fallout-1-and-2-android-536594/
>>316610764
>>316611023
>>316611309
Got you fuckers are autistic. I mean FO1 and FO2 have the best roleplaying mechanics. But taking gameplay, RPG mechanics, and everything else into consideration, the newer Fallouts are superior.
>>316611565
Meant for
>>316611416
>>316611593
Edge+ good enough for that
>>316611610
>gameplay, RPG mechanics, and everything else
As I said
>1 and 2
>don't have Bethesda's shitty Gamebryo engine
>3, NV, 4
>have Bethesda's shitty Gamebryo engine
Not a single game with Gamebryo has good gameplay.
>>316611610
RPG mechanics are somehow unrelated to gameplay?
>>316600739
Jesus Christ that AG
>>316597140
>Those shitty graphi...
>Oh... never mind
>>316606605
3 and 4 are good. Never played 1 & 2, they're too old and ugly.
New Vegas is shit.
>>316611610
>roleplaying mechanics
>RPG mechanics
>roleplaying game mechanics
2>1>4>NV>3
Thread over
>>316611751
I think what he's trying to say is that the original two Fallout games are better in that the devs actually put some fucking effort into the lore and dialogue, but he's still a filthy casual who can't enjoy an RPG unless it's crammed into a first-person shooter.
>>316612069
I too enjoy posting bait, my friend
>>316612069
someone post that image that debunks this one
i don't have it
>>316612069
>>316612069
1/10
>>316612158
1 > 2 > NV > 4 > 3
>>316612464
>>316612451
Godspeed anon
Bethdrones BTFO
>>316612530
Any list is acceptable as long as it has the originals over the FPS shooters
I don't understand how anybody could think FO3 is better than 4. 4 is buggy, but at least it has some redeeming qualities.
>>316612608
Not quite sure that anyone on /v/ ACTUALLY believes that the FPS are better than the RPGs.
There's probably someone out there.
>>316598119
current gen fags BTFO
>>316612158
2 > NV > 1 > 3 > 4
>>316612694
FO3 at least tried to be a Fallout
FO4 drops the pretense completely and just became a post-nuclear war Borderlands
>>316612697
They are though. Games like BG, FO, PoE are slow, clunky trash.
>>316612694
The only redeeming qualities in FO4 are the shooting and improved animations.
Everything else about it is fucking garbage.
>>316597140
THOSE FUCKING PICKPOCKETING KIDS
>>316613043
Kill Flick and they stop.
>>316597886
Don't forget:
>Big bad monster bad guy Frank Horrigan
>Maltese Falcon full of ebin maymays
>Non-hostile Super Mutants
>Wanamingos
>New Reno as whole
>Introducing Enclave, the new de facto bad guys
>Cut content (Sulik's quests)
>Fewer voiced characters than Fallout
Not enough can be said for San "everybody was kung fu fighting!" Francisco though. Fallout was one of the best games I've ever played, Fallout 2 is shit and is a worse slap in the face than Fallout 3 was. Only good thing was the car song.
>>>316601545
So you have no credibility unless you were born in 1899 or earlier? You're stupid Tbh farn.
>>316612996
So it's better than FO3.
>>316613210
At least FO3 had some sort of RPG mechanics and still had Skills and factions. So no, FO4 is pretty much the worst Fallout game. They're both shit though.
>>316612158
Holy shit, you're right.
>>316613356
>RPG mechanics
Meant fuck all when you could max out every skill with ease thanks to the bobbleheads.
>Skills
See above
>Factions
You mean the BoS? Who you were pretty much forced to join? If you had said NV I might have agreed.
Fallout 4 is the better game just by having far superior gameplay.
>>316613043
>arrive at the hub
>kids pickpocket the radio I had to use to free Vic the Trader
>for some reason Flick still wasn't selling the radio
>have to gain like 10 levels to kill all the slavers
wow
>>316613194
your opinions are all wrong, go suck a dick.
>>316612158
1 > NV > 4 > 3 > Tactics > 2
Someone pls buy me a laptop charger so I can play this
>>316599958
Fallout 1 had a strain of black humour, but Fallout 2 was downright silly. This silliness varied throughout the game, but was highest in New Reno - probably the most *memorable* part with the most work put into it - and the oil rig, whose dialogue reads like it was targeted towards 12-year-olds who had just discovered the concept of political satire.
>>316600739
Good work Anon, you've managed to get double mileage out of this bait. You worked hard, be proud.
>>316613615
Yeah the game is bugged to shit
>painstakingly get my car after 30 hours of gameplay
>arrive at new reno
>spend some time there
>come back
>the car has glitched away never to be seen again, along with the trunk full of expensive weapons and chems
I nearly quit right there. At least the game is completable without the car.
>>316613708
Pls
>>316613640
Thanks for the input farn. You gonna go play some more Fallout 2 now? Enjoy some talking Deathclaws or some epic pre-2000 maymays?
>>316613854
That is a quest you nignog. There is an NPC that steals the car if you part in in New Reno.
Talk to the guy standing next to the parking lot for information.
>>316597302
retard
>>316613940
What's wrong with talking deathclaws?
>>316613194
>Big bad monster bad guy Frank Horrigan
FO2 does have a weaker setup in terms of bad guys than FO1 does, indeed; Master and Lieutenant are impeccable and possibly right, Dick Richardson is just a dick and the final confrontation kinda eh. Still, most people don't think much of FO2 ending.
>>Maltese Falcon full of ebin maymays
It's a special random encounter, those are always non-canon goofing around for shits and giggles. FO2 had a bit too much of shits and giggles, but still. Are you also going to abhor FO1 for having TARDIS or Godzilla?
>>Non-hostile Super Mutants
So many years after the Master's death? Why not? Some have the mental capacity to grow up civilized. Lieutenant was a bad guy, but he was smart enough to make conscious decisions.
>Wanamingos
Mutated creatures are aplenty in the Fallout universe from the first game onwards.
>Enclave
Why not? FO1 closed up most of it's plot threads, so getting a new villain wasn't so bad.
>Cut content
FO1 has it as well. Less so, but that's because FO1 is a short popcorn game, you can beat it in an afternoon; FO2 has way more locations and way shorter development time, proportionally. Van Buren implies Sulik never found his sister, anyway.
>Fewer voiced characters than Fallout
Most voiced characters in Fallout weren't that big of a deal, anyway. You barely ever hold a conversation with Laura and Butch.
>New Reno
Okay, I find it mostly believable, and it's a pretty impressive hub-kinda town, but YMMV.
FO2 still has the same mechanics, on top of letting you tinker with many more builds, develop your character in many more meaningful ways, making combat better (and random encounters actually challenging), and overall letting you putz around much more.
>>316601226
I have to admit that's a funny mental image. Some incredibly handsome guy with a nice chest, probably narrating his frustration in iambic pentameter off the top of his head since he's so smart, just stumbling all over his place trying to make his limbs connect with an ant's head and slowly bleeding out.
>>316614084
What a fucking fag lol
>>316597886
>games are serious business!
>>316614286
After the grim atmosphere that Fallout 1 laid out, burning it all down with memes, cheap jokes and pop culture references is pretty fucking disgusting
>>316600418
>millenials proud of being actual retards
>>316608264
>there was no obvious way to reload
Obvious bait. If you just click on the weapon it will reload. You can't convince me you didn't do this.
>>316614634
>grandpa proud of early onset of Alzheimers
>>316600739
>>316613168
Is that true? I thought they just stopped dropping the gear off, leading it to accumulate in their inventory so that you can't even buy it back.
>>316605494
play FO1 first, the beginning from FO2 is hell if you aren't familiarized with the system
>>316605453
this is the dumbest thing I've read today. And today I read people saying we should let more refugees into Europe
>>316606801
>the game with challenge is the worst
>>316608264
humanity is doomed
>>316597302
Fallout 3 was my first Fallout, and now I prefer 2 the most and 3 the least.
>>316610613
these guys would have an aneurysm with any other classic RPG. FO1/2 are probably the most accessible classic RPGs out there. These guys only want action games and that's it.
>>316615239
Steal it back from them, in that case, dummy.
A Restoration Patch sidequest allows you to give the children a new caretaker and after a week, the pickpockets are supposed to stop.
>>316611610
>roleplaying mechanics
>not gameplay
>>316610183
This is normally true but as you can see from the screenshot the guy posted he would have been better off with the pre made characters
>>316597302
being an edgy contrarian only works if you hate new things, dingus
>>316613854
>this guy
>>316612158
he's right, and there is no need to be upset
