If Monster Hunter has the best and most interesting PvE combat, how come there still is no big action adventure or RPG with overworlds and a story that has it? Instead we get a Monster Hunter story RPG that has fucking turn-based combat.
>>316577831
>>316577831
It's called Dragons Dogma, exclusive to PC in 2016.
>>316577883
>>316577918
I played that and while it is inspired by Monster Hunter, has the Monster Hunter Great Sword charge attack or Bow Arc Shots, it still plays like casual shit. Hitboxes/collision detection are a joke.
>>316577985
>>316578032
>>316578097
>>316578156
>>316578213
>>316578289
>>316578340
>>316578395
>>316577831
Monster Hunter is designed for the autistic fanbase that just likes to repeat the samey quests over and over.
We can't have an actually good game because Capcom.
>>316578694
Why is it considered normal racing the same race in racing games all the time, playing the same level in platformers until you have perfected it, fighting the same bosses in DMC and Bayonetta to S rank them or playing against 12 year old retards on the internet on the same map for 5000 hours but it's somehow weird or autistic when you fight the same monster in Monster Hunter which is challenging and fun and worth getting perfect at?
>>316578835
All of that is considered pretty autistic. There's an exception if it's something that doesn't consume a lot of time, for example you could have three to five games in ten minutes with certain racing games.
Normally people don't play games for more than 50 hours, tops.
>>316578898
>>316578835
all those things are also autistic.
>>316578960
>All of that is considered pretty autistic.
Well, then you're wrong here. Back to NeoGAF.
>>316578960
Normally people don't play games.
Playing video games is an autistic hobby, after all.
>>316577831
Toukiden has a move that's pretty much literally the same
>>316578985
No, fighting a good enough AI with 20 different moves and modes that affect moves is just fun if it's done right.
>>316578998
>wrong
Go ask random passerbys if it's normal to spend 500 hours in a game because it has big, slow swords in it if you don't believe me.
I didn't invent how people think.
>>316578835
The difference is that racing games don't force you to repeat the same challenge over and over is you got it right the first time, and Bayonetta and DMC are the same. In MH you are forced to repeat the same task hundreds of time for too many hours until you can advance in the game.
>>316578962
>>316579089
And if you share their views, you're wrong here. That's all I'm saying. Go clubbing or already queue for the next iPhone or FIFA if youw ant to be like them.
>>316579101
I don't understand at all the idea of pairing the forced grind with already slow gameplay.
The gameplay in the series looks all right but I can never get in because it so damn slow paced for no real reason. I really don't understand why design it like that because it undermines the challenge of gameplay, too.
>>316579134
>>316579195
You're the one who asked what's normal.
>>316578730
>draw attack
>>316579209
the game is slow when your bad at it. One you get a feel for the game play and know how to defeat most wyverns, the game goes by much faster. Took me almost a week to clear low rank caravan when i played MHFU, but only 2 days when i played MH4U.
I always hear about how grindy and time consuming these games are, but how many hours are we talking?
I've put in a few thousand hours into the Souls series which is fairly similar from what I've heard, how does MH compare to those games?
>>316579209
Only the starts/first five hours can be somewhat corny. But they're also comfy as fuck and the "story" interesting enough. After 5-10 hours you get to fight basically everything in the game and can fight whatever you want to fight or build whatever you want to build.
And 10 hours are nothing compared to the 3000 hours you can easily sink into a Monster Hunter.
Don't really understand this "grinding" meme.
But yeah, this thread is about putting Monster Hunter's combat into an open world or action adventure game without what you probably dislike about Monster Hunter.
>>316579209
Japanese love that playstyle. They feel like they have to WORK (instead of play) to sense any kind of achievement, so they put grinding in any game they make. It's a cultural thing. The same happens with korean and chinese gamers.
>>316579402
I should say it looks somewhat similar mechanically, atleast if you were using Ultra sized weapons in Souls.
>>316579402
500+ to see most of the stuff. Can be shorter if your good.
>>316579402
You just play them until you're bored. You'll never have everything in the game.
It's all about fighting dynamic, awesome looking monsters. If you don't enjoy doing this over and over again, don't buy it.
Well, Monster Hunter also has by very, very far the best and most engaging crafting system there ever was in a game, not even comparable with other games.
>>316579435
>And 10 hours are nothing compared to the 3000 hours you can easily sink into a Monster Hunter.
That's not a good thing. You should be able to have those games in a much lower time frame. The amount of padding for those extended playhours just means more neck and hand cramps.
>>316579512
After 500 hours you're still an absolute pleb who could probably never even kill an average G Rank monster solo, though. This is a good motivation to keep playing.
I'm at like 6000 hours and still get constantly hit fighting most monsters.
>>316579402
average MH player has +400Hours at least anon
>>316579512
After 500 hours you're still an absolute pleb who could probably never even kill an average G Rank monster solo, though. This is a good motivation to keep playing. Also, even more important, you want to master most weapon classes. I know many people that play the games for 1000 hours but barely mastered more than three weapon classes. Every weapon plays almost like a different game.
I'm at like 6000 hours and still get constantly hit fighting most monsters.
>>316579435
>5-10 hours you get to fight basically everything in the game.
There are new monsters being introduced even on G-Rank. and to reach G-rank I'd say you'd need something like 200 hours if you take your time experimenting with new weapons.
>no one on /v/ can beat this guy solo
>>316579595
It's a good thing, makes Monster Hunter as fucking fair as it is. Almost no cheap trial and error at all. For exmaple, befoe getting to fight a Deviljho, you get to fight a different brute wyvern (Barroth) which is very similar in many ways but a lot weaker and slower, perfectly prepares you.
>>316579598
>After 500 hours you're still an absolute pleb who could probably never even kill an average G Rank monster solo
If you suck.
>>316579402
Monster Hunter is entirely boss fights that can be anywhere from 10-30 minutes on average solo.
It has a lot of replayability. There can be grinding for armor and weapon upgrades but its genuinely enjoyable.
I think I had like 800+ hours in FU and I put probably 60 or 70 in Tri and Portable 3rd and then 350 in 3Ultimate.
So yeah, theres lots of content there.
>>316579435
>But yeah, this thread is about putting Monster Hunter's combat into an open world or action adventure game without what you probably dislike about Monster Hunter.
I really wish Capcom had enough business sense to do this.
It'd also generate tons of interest in the mainline games. If they had stuff like levels with variety more people would get used to the combat. Right now the game series just isn't pulling in new players, it's just old fans looking forwards to next sequel.
>>316579774
I know I can.
Evade Lancing mate, that shit is magical.
>>316579796
>Monster Hunter is entirely boss fights that can be anywhere from 10-30 minutes on average solo.
Is that a good thing? I remember how this exact thing ruined MGS PW.
>tfw no Gods Eater translation
>>316579261
More curazy.
>>316579050
>Toukiden
wew
>>316579908
>>316578898
>>316577831
it's not really good combat. could be improved immensely
>>316579595
Most of that time comes from fighting stuff simply for fun and you enjoy sinking hours into the game. A lot of the quests do absolutely nothing for you, but you do them anyway because why the fuck not?
>>316579985
>All these niggas spoiling MHX for themselves
Who /going in blind/ here? Don't know what styles are, don't know what monsters are in, it will just be me and fear.
>>316579512
>>316579525
>>316579649
That's cool that the PVE is so challenging atleast. I'm not sure if I could enjoy fighting AI opponents for that long but I'm guessing they have more tools than most Souls Bosses.
The skill ceiling sounds high.
>>316580047
do you read moon runes or literally blind?
>>316580038
It's almost perfect at this point and a retard like you would anything but improve it if you'd get your hands on it. Don't even want to hear your complaints.
>inb4 no lock on
>when fighting huge monsters with ~8 different hitzones
>>316578730
>that camerawork
Shitposting about MUH HOURS aside
Its starting to look like we can actually "fight" with monsters now given the added mobility, so instead of slapping or bonking it on the nose we can now dodge, parry, riposte andCROSS COUNTERmonsters.
I am hype and you "monster hunter is too slow and grindy" shitters can either git gud or git gone
>>316580046
its this one for a console or a shit handheld?
>>316580182
>>316580116
I learned moon for Dos back in the day.
>>316580070
Its very fun anon.
LR is basically a big tutorial and you can get fun online later.
For me is better than souls because even after 300 attemps on the same monster every battle i learn something new and is a really fun battle so far.
Think about Kalameet/Artorias tier battles.
>>316580235
So how do the I-frames work? You have them both for dodges and backsteps like in Dark Souls?
>>316580235
>you must beat this quest otherwise you'll be forever trapped inside a room
>>316579512
The fuck
100 hours tops to 'see' all the content. Anything higher is just you wadting time.
>>316580321
Only specific weapons have hops/steps (Lance for example as seen in the webm). Otherwise you have like 7 iframes for rolls. You can get more iframes with specific armor skills which are usually for plebs.
>monster hunter
>best combat
Even if that's true that's not a good thing. Game is specifically designed to be slow as fuck, and your attacks hardly ever have any affect on the opponent. Also interesting shit like footsies doesn't exist partly because everything has a shitton of poise, and partly because your movement potential is shit tier in comparison to pretty much any monster. I'll admit that the games are fucking fun when you actually get to fighting monsters, but I can't play them because I can't stand all of the boring shit you have to do in between fighting monsters just to have items to use in future hunts and to acquire ores for better weapons.
>>316580397
Or enjoying a game and actually trying to get good at it. And it's not even possible to see everything in 100 hours unless you let other players with the best G Rank equipment carry you through everything.
>>316580341
Rajang is the only Monster in all of Monster Hunter that I'm legitimately afraid of fighting.
>>316579649
This. I have about 600 hours per game.
>>316580341
>>316580487
>and your attacks hardly ever have any affect on the opponent
Not if you're fighting them properly. If the monster's weak point is the head and all you do is hit its legs, then you won't have much effect and the fight will take 30 minutes. But if all you hit is the head then you'll constantly affect them with stuns, staggers and interrupts and will finish the fight in 3 minutes. Literally. I'm not even kidding. This is the average Greatsword speedrun in a nutshell.
>Also interesting shit like footsies doesn't exist partly because everything has a shitton of poise, and partly because your movement potential is shit tier in comparison to pretty much any monster
If by footsies you mean pixel-perfect spacing and punishing whiffed attacks from monsters, then that is definitely possible in Monster Hunter, and is something you should do if you want your hunts to be over quickly.
>>316580718
>>316580341
No.
No no no no no.
>want to get hyped for Monster Hunter
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdB_wfIbrfw Every hit feels like an orgasm.
>>316580856
>>316580532
Trust me, after several hours of hot monkey dick, the true monster isYian Garuga.
Why is the enemy design so perfect?
>>316581000
yeah, fuck that guy
>>316580837
>pixel-perfect spacing and punishing whiffed attacks
Is that actually possible, or even ideal? Seems to me like it makes more sense to abuse I frames and then punish than to try and make them just whiff.
>>316580980
>>316580560
>600 hours
3000 more and you will be able to do this.
>>316578962
I love Gore so much. I hope he sticks around for MHX.
>>316581000
>Trust me, after several hours of hot monkey dick, the true monster is Yian Garuga.
1 eared garuga fucks your shit up, but Garuga is just a lesser Rathian.
Yian Kutku into Garuga into Rathian/Rathalos
It was kind of pathetic that Capcom got away with it. Giving 3 monsters the same moveset. Hell, a lot of monsters share a shitload of the "core" attacks of the Kutku.
>>316580980
>not rolling in and fucking up his legs
?
What weapon will you main in MHX and what style?
I'm thinking of maining the Sword and Shield and will use the Bushido Style.
I like the idea of adding coatings to SnS attacks. The new animations are just beautiful and so fluid.
I'm also doing the Bushido Style because I like the idea of dancing around opponents and countering them and punishing their missed attacks.
>>316581242
Forgot webm.
>>316581252He's in MHX, thankfully Apex shit isn't.
>>316579435
>But yeah, this thread is about putting Monster Hunter's combat into an open world or action adventure game without what you probably dislike about Monster Hunter.
Got you covered.
>>316581314
>thankfully Apex shit isn't.
The worst thing that ever happened to Monster Hunter.
I'm also lucky normal Gore is in and not Shagaru with random mines even turbo autists like >>316579134 get hit by.
>>316580718
Sometimes it baffles me how fucking smart these creatures are programmed, this one time I dropped back into arena with that special brachydios, I thought it was the green one or something.
and what he does is, when I was still loading that fucking thing targeted me and the moment I dropped down it killed me, there was literally nothing I could do and this was with a group of 4 people.
>>316581263
I'm talking about the fact that he can run into you from a standing position and take off 60% of your health, not to mention the 360 no scope beak slams.
>>316581308
LBG HBG Bow Every MH all MH.
GS and Hammer every once in a while to feel manly
>>316580235
Eh. I-frames are still mid-tier gameplay. Positioning is the true master's game, it's actually possible to walk between Rajang's punches with a drawn greatsword.
>>316581312
>literally Japan in one webm
>>316579195
>being this assblasted
>we finally get a fucking story-focused Monster Hunter RPG
>it drops the thing that makes Monster Hunter what it is and as great at it is; the combat
>gives us retarded SNES turn-based combat instead
What the fuck. Just what the fuck?
>>316581252
Gore's back. Check out 0:47 in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O6OSKzNfms
>>316581153
>Is that actually possible, or even ideal?
It is possible. And ideal. And it's actually EASIER to do than abusing i-frames, since the default character without any Evasion +1/2/3 armor skills has very few i-frames in their dodge rolls. You space yourself just outside of the reach of the enemy's attack, and you punish.
The kind of i-frame dodges you see in shit like >>316580235 or >>316578289 is NOT easy to do.
It is much easier and less risky to figure out your opponent's patterns and position yourself right outside of their reach to punish their attacks or openings.
>>316581560
There was a puzzle game too, and a pachinko. Basically the same thing.
>>316579261
Why is Monhan the only series with fun and complex bow combat?
Don't even make me talk about Souls bows where you can't even look up or down properly, invisible walls everywhere and enemies not reacting when far away.
>>316577831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQeIKX6XB8
my favorite MH video
>>316577831
Actually, MH has bar none the worst combat in a videogame. It's extremely clunky and you end up fighting cameras and controls instead of monsters exclusively.
>>316581314
>>316581621
Fuck yes
Playable Monster Hunter MMO in NA region when?
I've played Frontier G on the Taipei server - the level cap isn't that staggering but it's boring playing a game like that utterly and totally alone because you don't speak mandarin.
>>316581776
>Why is Monhan the only series with fun and complex bow combat?
Dragon Dogma's bow is not as complex as MH but it is fun.
I hope Ceanataur Bow is back in X. Dat pierce.
>10 more days until Bloodborne DLC comes out
>14 more days until MHX comes out
FUCK.
I want to play both at the same time but I only have about 2 hours a day to play after getting home from work.
>>316581989
>spot the video game journalist
>>316582219
>Bloodborne
>>316581989
confirmed for literally never having played the game, or having played it for an hour and been just terrible
>inb4 "i have x hours logged"
>>316581776
What's so complex about the bow? Never used it.
>>316581372
Shagaru is a god tier fight on his own. Fuck whoever came up with those mines.
>>316582319
>there are people who would actually give expand dong any more than that
Yeah, vidya is pretty much kill.
>>316582530
I wouldn't say there's input complexity but more to do with perfect positioning and constant barrage of hitting the monsters weak point, because if you're not you'll get a sub par time
>>316582376
Bloodborne is one of the best games of the year alongside MH4U. I can't see how anyone can play BB and not say that it is at least in the top 10 best of 2015.
I'm an idort who has a Gateway 3DS, a PS4, a 360, a Vita and a PC, so I actually have the luxury of enjoying games across many platforms (although I don't have the time to play them all).
>>316581989
i thought after dark souls people learned there is more to action games than just mash buttons and have an emergency roll cancel
>>316582219
>>316582741
>mfw i was just like you because of work
>mfw i was neet when mh4u released, played 2 months non stop, got job and now i got fired just 2 weeks before MHX release
feels good man
>>316582530
Haven't used it since MHFU but it requires everything - Timing, positioning, aiming and of course judgement, all of which change when you switch bow type.
well there's Monster Hunter Online, but it's japan only
>>316582741
I just got really really really tired of the dark souls formula. It has absolutely no depth and relies entirely on new obstacles to stay fresh, while I could easily spend weeks analyzing how to make the best use out of a weapon class in MH.
>>316583053
It's China only, actually.
>>316582975
>Haven't used it since MHFU
They added a power shot that is amazing. X is going to make it even better
>>316582793
>there is more to action games than just mash buttons and have an emergency roll cancel
When has this ever been the case?
Amazing third-person action games with deep combat systems have been around since 2001 (and probably even before that, but my memory can't remember any specific examples before 2001). That was the year that Devil May Cry (PS2) and Severance: Blade of Darkness (PC) came out.
Since that time, there have been plenty of games where you have to learn your movesets, learn the enemy movesets and overcome the challenges that the environment provides by strategic and tactical action gameplay.
Monster Hunter 1 came out in 2004. Ninja Gaiden came out the same year. God Hand arrived in 2006. And tons of other games with deep, tactical and amazing third-person action combat have predated Dark Souls.
Demon's/Dark Souls didn't invent the idea of action games that punish button mashing and mindless gameplay. That's what you seem to be suggesting. That's just historically illiterate.
>>316583132
I tried it a quickie in 4U but it seems to just lock you in place long enough to take damage. How are you meant to use it?
>>316583053
>>316583086
There's two servers. Japan and Taipei.
Japan autobans you for using English.
Taipei requires you to change your computer's timezone to Taipei's. The entirety of the game is in mandarin but some dudes broke the barrier.
http://fist.moe/
If you're feeling adventurous and want like ~20 hours of an MMO, here you go. Ignore anything related to joining the guild, they're all keks.
>>316583226
no, just using an example of a popular game so even normies can understand, i have played most games you listed.
>>316583296
After a big monster whiff usually.
>>316581621
Stiggy is piss-easy to roll through, are you mad?
>>316583384
Well, sorry if I came off as a dick. I just get irritated when people think that good action games never existed before Demon's Souls/Dark Souls came out.
>>316583296
This is how you're meant to use them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcEUTvJX_V8
I stopped right after getting into G-rank in 4U, do a lot of people still play it?
>>316583301
>Frontier
http://mho.qq.com/
https://youtu.be/P9ZovkGlli0
>>316579774
Deviljho is like a Diablos and Barroth, just extremely fucking angry
>>316583468
Just apologizing makes you a better person than most on here.
>>316583661
But is this playable if I'm not extremely deep in the nip part of the world or am I going to get a range of people banned by trying to use a VPN to play like last time?
>>316583913
I don't think it's IP-blocked. Though there STILL hasn't been an OBT, just a fuckton of CBTs. Last no-wipe pre-OBT CBT starts in 2 weeks and the next one will be OBT, no idea when.
>This far into a MH thread and no rooms up
68-2471-5785-5954
Pass: 7243
>>316584119
>translate page to english
>Literally nothing changes
Will note. This is the one on CryEngine, right? I've heard of it before, I think. Looked neat but people complained about the gameplay changing a little. Appreciate the link, will look for the OBT.
>>316584130
I'll join after showering if you're still at it
>>316582548
Wow, you have no clue about video games.
>>316584330
>This is the one on CryEngine, right?
Yep. https://youtu.be/Ct7LKybrYpY
>>316584627
Wow, you haveshit taste.
So do you guys all play these games on a WiiU or portable? Is there a way to play these on PC? What about the upcoming release?
Also can you these online in North America?
>>316585052
Emulate FU
If you have a Wii U, get MH3U
If you have a 3DS, get MH3U or MH4U
>>316585052
3ds
Portable is the best way to play imo
>>316584130
2/4, get in here
>>316585052
Emulate Portable 3rd
>>316585052
>So do you guys all play these games on a WiiU or portable?
MH 4 Ultimate, the current MH title, is only available on 3DS, so we all play it on the 3DS.
MH 3 Ultimate, the previous one, is available on Wii U and 3DS. Most people play it on the Wii U.
Some people still play the PSP versions of older MH games like MH Freedom Unite and MH Portable 3rd.
>Is there a way to play these on PC?
Yes. Emulate MH Freedom Unite or MH Portable 3rd on PPSSPP.
>What about the upcoming release?
MHX is 3DS exclusive.
>Also can you these online in North America?
You can play online if you emulate or if you play MH4U on the 3DS or MH3U on the Wii U.
>>316585307
>P3rd
It's better to emulate Tri or FU.
>>316585382
If you're new to the franchise and don't want to spend money, then emulating MHP3 is the best option.
It's short, sweet and is a good intro to the series. He can be done with the game all the way to beating Alatreon within less than 200 hours.
It's much more polished and refined than MHFU and has much more variety than MH Tri.
>>316581381
>It hits you even if you're behind his legs
bulllllllsssshhhiiiiitttttt I thought we already went over FU a long time ago
>forced grinding in MH
Are you guys retarded
The only thing you really need to upgrade is your weapon
As for "grinding to progress the story", you only need to clear each key quest once. You can easily get to G Rank in a day or two in MH4U, if you need to grind before G Rank you either want a set for cosmetics or you're bad at the game.
>>316581373
4U makes them even bigger assholes
The AI acknowledges and takes advantage of wall scraping, and shit like rathalos will fuck you up if you ever get caught in a single wind gust of his neutral stance.
They even fucking know when you're poisoned/on fire and low on life, they play the stalling game by circling you until YOU commit to something, like a roll or seathing to get you then.
It's fucking insace
>>316586003
I myself grind me one set of armor for LR and one for HR, then another one on GR, I like the safety net from having appropriate defense for the level I'm playing on
>>316578156
I know it's MH but with one? Is it MH Cross?
I want my little buddies back.
>>316587597
Yesi don't like it
>>316578156
What is this? Monster Hunter x Dynasty Warriors?
>>316581372
Only HR5 here. What's Apex and what do I have to fear?
New to lancing, what skills should I have other than guard boost, guard +2 and sharpness +1? Evade dist up?
>>316587342
>>316587704
>What is this? Toukiden?
No.
SHAKALAKAS>PALICOS
COME AT ME FAGS
>>316587803
You know how you can overcome the frenzy virus and it gives you a small attack boost? Apex monsters are monsters who did that. They can infect you and hurt like a son of a bitch. And unless you use a wystone you can't even attack them without weapons bouncing.
>>316586003
Armor. Armor you pice of shit. Armor is fucking important.
>Ruin the fuck out of Steve, Diablos and Rajang in less than 10 minutes
>>316587803
Imagine monsters perma pissed off and borrowing moves from their alternates. Imagine said perma pissed monsters also having the ability to get pissed off even more,now imagine your weapons bouncing off 90% of its body unless you have a specific item that you can only get through specific single player and multiplayer quests.
>>316587968
Still, MH isn't as grindy as many claim. Why don't you list me some rare items you've been struggling to get?
>>316587916
It's true.
>Duramboros hammer
Goddamn, that shit was perfect when it starts out. Who thought taking away the globe shape was a good idea?
>>316587916
>Wanting the masked midgets over cosplay pussy
You crazy.
>>316588041
nothing beats the absolutely ridiculous tribal shakalaka dancing, plus their SFXPAPAAA!
I love the combat so much, but I hate the grinding so much that I can't really enjoy the game.
I really wish there were more ARPGs like this, I'll never understand why its so rare.
>>316586003
>grinding GR using low rank armors
Have anyone ever solo to GR using low rank armors?
>>316588041
>wanting useless fleabags over total bros
You nuts.
>all these hype as fuck MHX webms
>remember that there has been no localization announcement yet
>>316579101
Yet somehow I feel that you're someone that praises Dark Souls for having "INNOVATIVE GAMEPLAY!" even though there really is no risk to playing it.
>B...B...But mah souls!
It's an item you can continually grind over and over. Try getting some of those rare drops in MH for a weapon/armor set you desperately need from a monster that routinely kicks your ass over and over again.
Will they ever feature dynamic skinning and butchering mechanics for all the monsters in any of MH's trillions of sequels? I want to see how to process one of these fuckers, and I want each and every part of their body to have a use, much like the Native Americans used every part of the great buffalo.
>>316578592
IS THAT A FUCKING CHAINSAW
>>316588309
>wanting blabbering niglets over loyal, cute pals
>>316588389
I think things you can cut off will likely still be a scripted affair. Softbody deformations, where you cut or bash would be pretty neat and may be possible.
>>316577831
Dark Souls is the best desu senpai
>>316579195
>>316579195
>You can't have a social life and 1000 hours in a game.
>>316588430
You can dual wield chainsaws senpai.
>>316588430
Chainsaw/pizza cutter swaxe.
Gravios Pallium, one of the rare drops in the game which people commonly complain about
Odds of getting a Gravious Pallium per quest is over 20%
is that so bad, really? You're pretty much guaranteed to end up with some rare drops as you progress through the game, you'll always be able to forge something
>>316588225
Different strokes for different folk then.
Never had the Shakas do anything useful for me other than be bait with the invulnerability masks.
Meanwhile my cats have dozens of tail cuts, saving staggers, and other crazy hits under their belt.I'm also incredibly biased after naked G King Shakalaka hunting in 2nd gen.
I guess it's more or less because I don't see the Shakas as naturally weak, so them going around hunting isn't a big thing.
The Felynes are just cats that walk on two legs. And there they go risking their lives to assist you, which makes it endearing.
>>316588513
AFTER the kill, dude. You've got a big ass carcass in front of you. I want to see EXACTLY how it's turned into usable shit.
Enough of the canned animation of taking out your dagger and stabbing your kill in a random spot a couple times to get a scale or some stupid shit. I understand that this would change the game's economic structure, but I think it would be for the better.
>>316588350
I think it's a pretty safe bet that we'll get it. Both 3U and 4U did pretty good here.
>>316588389
It's gonna be a loooooong fucking time before games get to that point. I don't even think the most ultra hardcore hunting simulators around feature that shit.
>>316588662
Actually digging around in their innards, might change the ratings, so it would likely never happen.
>>316581372
Shagaru is pseudo confirmed, actually.
>>316588608
>Artian X with pizza cutter.
Excellent taste.
>>316581308
GS and HBG because they're the best in every game.
>>316588649
It's been the complete opposite for me. Cha-Cha and Kayamba have been there for me in almost every 3U hunt, everything from knocking fuckers out of the sky to netting me dozens of gems, plates, and shit. Meanwhile the cats constantly dick around, running in circles and giving healing horns when I don't need them or right after I faint. Different experiences, I suppose.
>>316588761
I'm not holding my breath, maybe if they announce MHXU we'll get it.
But after seeing how Monhun did in the west this time, they'll change their mind. Didn't 4U do really well here?
>>316588279
Probably because it actually requires effort. You do realize just how many different weapons you can use and different monsters you can fight in MH right? Also how interesting those enemies actually are in comparison to something like Gods Eater Burst where the only enemy that's really all that pleasant to fight is Hannibal. It has more large monsters than most games have bosses+midbosses, pretty much all of them are liked by the majority of players, only bitching I've seen is about FU plessy, giggy, and a few others. You're damn lucky to even get 5 weapons in the average action game, rarely even 3, and in most action games every weapon basically works exactly the same with slightly different attack speeds and damage values so you basically only have one weapon anyway. Why would the average dev even try to make something with combat as interesting as MH when they can make some shitty cinematic shooter like Biocock Infinite and get fucking paid?
>>316589195
MH4 was mostly skipped because the game was an utter fucking mess. Crafted weapons were utterly worthless compared to relics, the relic grind was even worse, charm melding was glitchy, weapon balance was the worst the series had ever seen, and the endgame is entirely comprised of Teostra GQs.
>>316589262
Too bad that with MH's terrible balance you typically wind up with only 3-4 usable weapons per game, and those weapons usually only have 1-3 moves you actually ever use.
>>316586003
I love MH to death, but is grindy as fuck nigga.
Performance varies a lot between weapons, most of time you'll have to get yourself multiple weapons, either for weapon progression (even GS has to get multiple weapons since you can't get Cera, Chedah or Fatalis from the get go), elemental weaknesses or shit.
Armor is also a big part of it, and you will often have to go through multiple armors in the game until you reach your desired one.
Charms are also a bitch.
These are all big factoids that affect your hunting time, the biggest grinding point
>>316589721
That's not what I fucking posted.
>>316589368
>only 3-4 usable weapons
Most weapons have been perfectly fine since P3rd, I don't know what you're talking about.
>1-3 moves
Most weapons don't actually have more than 3 attacks. Why are you complaining about most of the attacks in the game being useful? What does it even matter? There are essentially only 2 types of attacks possible with a melee weapon in the first place.
>>316577831
>best PvE combat
>uses the game that is quite literally Press X to awesome
Good one OP, you almost had me
You are a funny guy
>>316589870
>Most weapons have been perfectly fine since P3rd, I don't know what you're talking about.
Then why is every weapon but GS, HBG and IG (DB and LBG for status) considered kick on sight in multiplayer
>>316588649
>Never had the Shakas do anything useful for me other than be bait with the invulnerability masks.
Did you try changing masks and giving the shakalakas orders?
I mean, that's the whole point of the shakalakas, and when you do that you can deal massive damage to a monster (specially good for breaking parts/cutting tails), get a free pitfall trap, and so on, depending on the masks you pick
I can only picture them being useless if you... well, don't use them
>>316589939
>do hunting art
>get slapped by a monster in the middle of it because retard
Yeah, nice "awesome".
>>316589986
It's not my fault if you play with retards anon.
>tried to get the sailor outfit in mh3u
>arena is so fucking boring
Hopefully I'm actually on-time for mhx since I'm always getting these games a few years late
>>316589997
>Pitfall mask + Mock Melynx combo
It should be illegal to be so good.
>>316590108
Just because they want their grinding to be efficient doesn't make them retards.
>>316590538
Look at him. Look at him and laugh.
>>316577883
HAHAHAHA
MY TIME HAS COME AGAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quc7thDYJCI
I love Kecha!
I want you to help me solve this mystery:
Say you want to download a DLC in MH4.
You launch the menu, and it asks you if you want to connect to the internet. A bit weird, but whatever.
Then it checks all of the DLC stuff you have on your SD card, section by section, and you have to confirm all of them. Can't see the point, but you just mash through it, right?
Then you go to download a mission. You can't download all you're missing at once despite the fact that it's all free anyway, you have to go into each section, select one piece at a time and then you pick "download", but that's not even weird.
THEN, AFTER you have downloaded, it asks you if you want to... memorize the data you have downloaded... and it defaults to "no".
Why, just WHY would they do this? I mean... the download is the part that costs them money, right? If you download their files and then delete them right away you basically used their servers for nothing... so why would it be the DEFAULT OPTION? Why would they even ASK IT RIGHT AWAY?
I mean ok, I know that it's like a few megabytes if that, but it's still so completely absurd!
>>316588761
Shiggy is back too, it was confirmed today
could someone tell me if the two Cats in MH4 are actually useful? I asked a guy who makes a lot of YT videos but he didn't answer me.
>>316590915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dabpTJooXk
Looks like they changed the way weapons and armors are upgraded.
Now instead of requiring a set quantity of specific materials you need to fill a "level bar" using a certain KIND of material. So if a weapon requires, say, a monster part, you can use a bunch of common materials (like a scale) or a few rare ones (like a mantle).
>>316591529autism
>>316592375
It's complicated, but yes they are useful.
I'm on mobile so I can't write a lengthy response, but trust me they are.
>>316593396
welcome to casual hunter X, next game will include health bars, lock on and evasion+1 as the standard
>>316579134
>Bullshit random explosion as soon as you start your attack
This shit right here is the only thing that stop me from enjoying the 140 Shagarumagalu GQ.
>>316588041
What the fuck, how do you get these costumes? Or are they armour sets?
>>316594228
Well meme'd
>>316593396
neat that is a nice change, as the grinding for the sake of grinding in previous games was pointless
>>316580341
So this is what hell looks like.
>>316578835
Because its actually fun as to where Monster Hunter FORCES you to do it over and over.
You can S rank games like DMC if you dont suck on your first go
You need to grind on MH4U which is why it sucks.
>>316589997
>gigginox starts to leave the zone
>watch shadow intently to see where it goes
>suddenly comes crashing down from the sky, giving a pawpass is ready screen
What
>kayamba changes back from a cannon
The nigger sniped it as it was changing zones. The only thing similar to this is the fucking rath of meow and that shit only fires like 1-3 times and they spend a solid 2 minutes or something doing it. If they weren't invincible during that time it'd be sad to watch since the fire balls don't have anywhere near the same impact the cannon mask(understandably) has.
>>316594831
If the amount of materials is too extreme or if there is no way to downgrade using an item, this is going to be a massive failure
what the new armor system sounds like is the Old Kinsect system
Monster Hunter roguelike when?
>>316580856
>SUP NIGGA
>COME HERE
>VOLVIDON
>BUSTER
>>316577831
Because the gameplay is shit, everything is slow as fuck and you character moves like he has a bunch of rocks in his pants. At least it seems like they're doing something about it on MHX.
>>316594831
no, you always had the option to use a worse weapon that didnt require a harder monster or rare materials, but people just go and farm for the best stuff right away.
i liked Tri system, where you were kind of forced to wait and not skip half the content right away, so since you already had to grind for HR you could aswell farm to upgrade your weapons or do different armors, it needed more monsters and different quest but yeah, i dig the online system.
most people dont understand the game concept, they just start online with full groups, skip content and get the best gear the fastest they can, and the shitters pretend they are good at the game.
>>316595065
all I want is the removal of the sub 10% super magical shard things you need for weapons and armor sets that require you to kill some monster 200 times to get the 3 or so you need because RNG YEAH.. If I have to fight something 200 times to get gud thats one thing, but to do it just to get stupid RNG drops in a singleplayer game, no fuck that
>>316593396
WHY DIDNT THEY DO THIS SOONER
I'm happy that Rathalos is part of the dark side!
>>316595891
Don't forget, this is Capcom we're talking about here.
>>316596258
Of course. Why fix everything when you can just fix some things and then fix the rest in the next game.
>>316577831
>If Monster Hunter has the best and most interesting PvE combat,
>>316590538
I would totally agree with you if they were all like huge as fuck instant kill moves, but those skills are still in the Monster Hunter spirit.
>HUGE AS FUCK windows when you can't do anything
>Some of them are over 8 sec long
>EXTREMELY punishable by monsters if you whiff
It's cool in my book so far.
>>316596108
>>316577831
>tachi finisher
>tachi
>-tachi
>a suffix word for referring to a group
>not the word group, but rather "the group of x" where x is a noun.
I don't get what you're trying to say here.
>>316577883
>mecha moves
>not hype thrusters activated
>>316578289
Apparently that's affected by evasion+ skills and can be done from guarding. This has completely changed how I play the weapon and redeemed that move for me.
>>316578097
How is this curazy? It's just a counter guard, like the Lance has.
>>316594994
>on your first go
No, not really. Even pre-existing knowledge of the moves can't help you too much if you haven't trained the timing into your body through experience.
>>316579101
Incorrect. You only repeat things in order to grind materials for new equipment, and there are many sets that require relatively few hunts of the same monster to build a full set that will carry you through most of the game with enough skill, and weapons like hammer / greatsword are designed with the idea that you won't have to make too many of different ones in mind.
Repeating the same monster once or twice at different levels of difficulty, or as a subspecies, doesn't count, as they typically gain something that makes the challenge notably different.
At no point in the game does Monster Hunter ever, ever force you to do the same thing 'hundreds of times'. Even a dozen would be highly suspect for many things. It is you, the player, who chooses the option to repeat things for further rewards.
>>316581372
>>316594485
As an SA-user, that was a poor move on his part. The weapon has long enough wait windows between moves that on a hunt like Shaggy Maggy, not immediately flowing into a relatively lengthy move is the smart way to play once the mines come into the picture.
I have rarely, if ever, gotten hit by those things, because I don't commit to such moves the moment I can. The mine was building before he went into the doublecut. He wasn't observant.
>>316593396
I kind of like it, but you're jumping the shark way too soon if you think that will remove the grind altogether.
Upgrading your high end weapons will probably ask you to farm a LOT of useless parts.
>everyone gets numorous moves that trip everyone within 100000000 feet of the monster
Alright, so you're telling me I shouldn't play anything but Insect Glaive for the super armor.
Thanks Capcom. Oh, you even gave me a skill that instantly grabs all three buffs. Even better.
>>316593396
Holy shit they finally fixed their stupid crafting system. The autists aren't going to like that shit at all.
>>316597320
It means that someone who has upgraded armor actually fought a monster a lot. No more people who don't have a full set after 50 hunts because they didn't get a gem and shitters who do because they got a gem on their first try because drops have nothing to do with skill.
>>316597518
Yeah because you really think that the same shitter who hacked there set in MH4U won't do it in MHX?
i'm just gonna hack all the items i want anyway. i've spent about 3000 hours all told carrying scrubs through the grind. i don't care anymore. hunt for fun or don't hunt.
>>316597380
Apparently not
even shit like the HBG super nova doesn't cause tripping
Multi-hit attacks are going to be absolutely obnoxious though
