Which Fallout protagonist is the most powerful?
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Which Fallout protagonist is the most powerful?
>>316556884
Fallout 4 protagonist probably.
>>316556884
Sole survivor.
Commonwealth is probably the most dangerous place out off all the other areas in each game
The Courier
Fallout 2 Protagonist
Depending on build can oneshot people in power armor via
Jab to the eyes
Thrown flare to the eyes
Or peaceful build that has such a shitty aura around him that everyone has critical failures and constantly injures themselves, has guns explode, and empties the magazine by accident
>>316556884
>All power armor except New Vegas
kek. I guess we know what the worst game in the series is.
F4 MC can destroy EVERYTHING with 1 point on every SPECIAL attribute
>>316557575
>implying he need it
>>316557451
>sierra madre
>the divide
Most powerful individual is probably the Vault Dweller.
Most powerful with their allies and friends is probably the Courier with upgraded Yes Man robots
>>316557513
Yeah, Advanced Power Armor turned you into a walking fortress of death as well.
>>316557728
Sole survivor gameplay wise can have every single perk and special stat maxed.
I'd say courier and sole survivor are on the top
>>316556884
Fallout 4, but that has less to do with his character and more to do with the broken mechanics in his game (infinite leveling)
>>316557667
What the fuck is the red mist going to do to synths?
The only thing more dangerous than the synths may be those tunnelers or whatever they're called.
Even then I think the institute could make a contingency for them
The Warrior.
Fuck all you main series "canon" plebs.
The Warriors best ending puts them in a more powerful position than any other protagonist's best ending.
They also get fucking advanced power armor, BoS edition, with a fucking mantle and cape. How stylish is that shit?
>>316557513
>depending on build
Sole survivor can be every single build. Have you seen some of the perks in fo4?
Theyre pretty broken when you max them out
Most powerful on skill? Vault Dweller
With the cumulative consequences of all the path options? Courier.
>>316557575
4 because it gives you the power armor 5 minutes into the game?
>>316558269
Fallout 2 protag has perks that ABSORB damage and then REDUCE anything that makes it through
Can kill while dealing 0 damage thanks to crit that can now go past 100 due to perks
>Also doesn't has to walk like a nigger. Has a car
why do i find it amusing that both the bethesda games use the same set of armor and they didnt bother to come up with something for FO4
>>316557994
Actually scratch that, the Fallout 2 protagonist is pretty broken too because if he has a ridiculously high luck he can practically warp reality so that his opponents always fuck up and end up killing themselves by accident.
>>316558085
The courier has the ability to become a post human mechanical god wielding the SCIENCE of the crazed Big M.T. all they gotta do is throw 5-6 hologram emitters around key settlements and the tunnlers will be fucked
>>316557665
No one on those covers is the player.
Well, maybe 4 is
Chosen One with APA, Sniper, Bozar. RIP all ye eyes.
East/West clash when
>>316557451
DC is way more dangerous, there's more radiation, super mutants control most of it and the Enclave is always swooping in to clean the filthy wastelanders. That being said east Boston is swarming with enemies, but that's because there's an even heavier emphasis on combat than FO3.
Canonically DC is the most fucked up place in all the US
If you had to pick a Fallout protagonist to escort you from D.C. to San Francisco, who would you choose?
>>316558853
Must I really go to post-apocalyptic San Francisco?
>>316558703
FO4 cover is T60
I didn't play FO1 or 2 is there anywhere more dangerous than the Divide in there?
>>316558901
You can go to post apocalyptic Seattleto get cancelled
>>316558703
They are actually different, it's very subtle for example FO4's has a longer mouthpiece and the chest and back have more tubes. FO3 is T-45d armor and FO4 is T-60
>>316557513
This, pacifist FO2 PC is pretty much impervious to harm. Like reality bending shit
>>316558827
>more fucked up then the glow.
NV protagonist can become more cyborg than man throughout the course of the game.
>>316558853
Doesn't san fran get nuked at the end of fallout 2?
>>316558853
Chosen One, because (s)he killed Frank Fucking Horrigan.
>>316556884
Well by the end of the dlcs the Courier can be a full cyborg with a robot army.
Also by that pic alone Courier is great enough that he doesn't need no fancy power armor just a armored duster.
>>316558815
NCR pushes Legions' shit in so hard that they flee past the Midwest and Pitt, and head straight towards the East Coast, raping and pillaging everything on the way there. By that time Institute has a vice grip on ther region and the Brotherhood has become an undeground relic of the past much like in New Vegas. So then the Legion begins fighting the Institute for dominance, and the recurring motif of the game can be old warfare vs. new warfare to further the point that war, war never changes
>>316559071
Just the oil rig, they reference the Shi in Fallout 4. One of the antagonists lived in NCR territory before moving up to San Francisco, but he didn't like it there either, so he left and kept doing things on the road like a fallout protagonist would do.
>>316558085
>What the fuck is the red mist going to do to synths?
Cloud corrodes metal really fucking quick.
>>316557913
If I recall, there were exploits and just plain secrets that allowed you to get every perk and cap all skills over 300% in both Fallout and Fallout 2.
>>316556884
chosen one even though i never played 2, as i understand it with a min/maxed luck build reality itself is your weapon
>>316559125
>the Brotherhood has become an undeground relic of the past much like in New Vegas
Bullshit
Thinking about it, just how fucked would the NCR be if the Eastern Brotherhood hooked back up with the West Coast Branch? I mean, they've got an airship and Good Ol' Liberty Prime, as well as any tech and weapons they've recovered from the Capital Wasteland and Commonwealth. Not to mention that the Eastern Brotherhood has less qualms about recruiting outsiders (one of the few Lyons reforms that seems to have stuck) which means that the major advantage the NCR had that allowed them to beat the Western Brotherhood; superior numbers, no longer applies.
>>316559304
If I remember right you were limited to 100% in Fallout 1 (maybe 200%) but yeah F2 you could go to 300% (1 skill point = 1 point (2 if tagged) to 100%, then 2 skill points per = 1 point (2 if tagged)to 200%, then 3 (or was it 4) = 1 point (2 if tagged) to 300%
>>316559071
>san fran
Please, don't say this
>>316559317
You don't even really need to min/max. The level 20 perks in 2 are very broken all on their own.
My battles pretty much went like this:
1. Walk up to enemy using free action points.
2. Punch enemy once in the nuts or nut equivalent.
3. Enemy is insta-killed no matter what and their heart explodes.
4. Get all my action points back for doing this.
5. Do it again.
Rate my power armor
>>316559473
>tfw I had a HnK rpg all along
If Courier gets to use Big MT tech he is literally unbeatable
Synths and Liberty Prime can't stand up to invincible hard-light soldiers and hexagons
>>316559473
>4. Get all my action points back for doing this.
There was nothing like this in Fallout 2 you are thinking of 3 or 4 for that perk
>>316558576
No it doesn't. Shut the fuck up.
>>316558901
Post-apocalyptic San Francisco is taken over by Chinese that made that city their home. They are probably one of the more advance settlement due to Chinese reverse engineering and they have a super computer they call the Emperor. They also have a large rice field and a BoS station along with a Dock. All the hipster faggots must have die when the bomb drop.
>>316558148
>tfw no midwest brotherhood armor
>>316559631
Keep riding that Bethesda cock buddy
>>316556884
can somebody please shop this to include the warrior from tactics
my autism is killing me
>>316559643
Forgetting about the Hubologists with AHS-7 and AHS-9
I looked it up and yeah according to Black Isle Van Buren at least the Enclave did nuke San Fran in retribution assuming that it was San Fran that launched the attack that took out the oil rig
>>316558148
Why do people like this power armor? It's the worst looking in the series, with exception to MAYBE the X-01.
Vault Dweller arguably had the hardest main quest out of all.
Chosen One had the best companions.
Fallout 3 protag was shit
Courier is the strongest one, skill wise.
Lone wanderer has the most versatile skill set.
>>316559789
Multiplayer for that was awesome for college LAN. All those different races / animals with different perk rules.
Dogs got a perk every level. Could even be a deathclaw or ghoul (did they get a perk every level ? I just remember the perk that allowed you to grow a quasi tree, and the next level made it give fruit that would heal people)
>>316559581
You're right.
But this isn't about who is the most powerful anymore but who has the most powerful allies.
And there it's not a fucking question since in most cases the Courier doesn't only have the Big MT tech but also an army of upgraded securitons at his disposal.
Best Legacy
Chosen One
Most Powerful in 1vs1 combat
Chosen One
Most powerful allies
The Courier
>>316559789
I got the original from
>>316559853
>Forgetting about the Hubologists with AHS-7 and AHS-9
Dead, regardless of the ending.
>>316559984
no wonder it looks like shit
>>316559945
>Vault Dweller arguably had the hardest main quest out of all.
Getting a cookie chip and finding and destroying bad men isn't that hard
F4 shat on the lore so hard
I was hopeful to see reference to the enclaves presence in the east because of the X01 armour, but you find it locked away in prewar buildings in the middle of nowhere. Either the enclave flew in and locked them away there for 0 reason, or bethesda has just shat on the lore becuase the advanced power armour was a post-war development on the other side of the continent.
The amount degradation here is insane. The enclave armour isnt something representitive anymore, its just some >LOL high grade loot for the casualzz
that randomly spawns in the middle of nowhere
>>316559631
Yeah.
It's more like 20 minutes come on guys.
>>316559606
I may or may not have been using mods for that one.
>>316559853
>>316560024
Oh and Van Buren isn't really canon anymore. Most of those content were recycle with New Vegas anyways. Otherwise, we wouldn't have Graham but instead, and evil ass fucktard Hangman and instead of Caesar as the "greater evil", we get the smartest man alive to fight against insteadin a space station.It's kind of sad that Harold will never get his happy ending in that version of the game or visit his vault andhis plant goddess.
Never played the fallout 2 restoration mod, what's different?
IS there one for Fallout 1?
>>316560089
Is there no Enclave at all?
Like a member or something.
I was sure that with the Power Armor they'd have at least a few members hidden somewhere with a quest or two.
>>316560285
A couple new locations, some more NPCs here and there, 3 new companions to choose from, and two endings are fix so you can get those 2 good endings.
FO1 just get a bug fix.
>>316559945
Doesnt the Fallout 3 Protag get a UFO?
>>316558085
>Implying it's the mist that's the real danger
>Implying it isn't the invincible holograms
>>316560290
Not that Ive found. The armour just spawns on frames in certain locations when you reach a certain level. Im so annoyed that because of the black/white nature of F3 and now F4 that you arent allowed to join the most advanced and impressive faction in the wasteland.
Now all we can do is hope like hell the DLCs might include something about them.
>>316559884
>he doesn't like the devil-bug armors
What a fucking tasteless faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkKkHmFOfKE#t=02m30s
Chosen One has a car. GG.
>>316557648
So, is FO4 entirely nerfed so that hipster casuals can congratulate themselves for being so good at it? I was psyched for a Boston based Fallout, because I'm from there and wanted to burn Cambridge and Allston to the ground, but I decided to hold off when player reviews started coming in.
It looks like it's totally dumbed down and nowhere near as nuanced or based on character building as it's predecessors.
>>316560285
http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Killap's_Fallout_2_Restoration_Project
List of changes. Along with balance, and resolution improvements for modern monitors.
If I remember correctly the Vault Dweller, Chosen One, and the Warrior with high luck can take the Jinxed trait, which would increase the rate of critical failures for enemies. So when fighting them the Courier, Lone Wanderer, and Sole Survivor would kill themselves by accident, lol
>>316556884
>Fallout 3 has a perk that causes the player character to nuclear detonate if health gets low enough.
Clear winner, obviously.
>>316560530
Warrior has car.
>>316560430
>Reply
Pretty sire that's the thread
>>316560614
Actually they potentially had a tank but they weren't in OPs image
My Courier got a Super Mutant, a Ghoul Jazz singer, and a mute lesbian through the Sierra Madre, I think he can get me cross country.
I'm not saying it's safe, but there have to be roads people use to travel about, it wouldn't be like a constant warzone. In fact it would probably be mostly quiet if you stay away from populated areas, not much different from any other long, boring hike. Stay clear of the wildlife, stay out of sight of anything humanoid, and we should be fine until it comes time to enter any city limits.
>>316556884
Independent Courier who unites with all of the minor factions and goes through OWB.
>>316560956
konchu what are you doing, pls don't get irradiated
>>316560430
>Doesnt the Fallout 3 Protag get a UFO?
>>316560672
>Pretty sire that's the thread
As stated before
>>316559317
>chosen one even though i never played 2, as i understand it with a min/maxed luck build reality itself is your weapon
Even worse if the Fallout 2 protag hit the special encounter with Pariah (dog)
>>316558269
I don't think you understand how broken you can become in F2.
>>316560520
FO2/NV advanced power armor looked good. Bethesda's X-01 rendition went too far with the bulk and got rid of the sick cooling fan on the back.
All of you are wrong, it's obviously the Initiate from Brotherhood of Steel who would win
>>316558853
Courier without a doubt.
Motherfucker has handled so much differently weird shit in stride and come out on top
>>316560940
Fallout 2 Protag
Intelligent and friendly Super Mutant wield a minigun, intelligent and well read Deathclaw, 2 robot dogs, Skynet, the inventor of Jet (fucking Myron), Pariah (a dog that turns everyone's luck to shit, has 750HP and does nothing but run from combat). Other follower's in the game but they aren't worth mentioning
vault dweller/chosen one because they can kick people in the eyes and dick to knock them out
>>316558853
Courier.
Warrior if it's guaranteed that we have supplies for his squad
Chosen one if he doesn't have a luck build.
The courier can have a ridiculous amount of cybernetic upgrades by the end of the game, with either an improved or replaced brain, heart and spine alongside the regular stat boosting implants.
Then they also can have the orbital laser gun and the red glare which are easily some of the most powerful weapons in the fallout series.
They're definitely my choice.
>>316560089
Wasn't the Enclave a PMC even before the war? Its also my understanding that they had it in with a lot of major corporations, which explains their presence on the Poseidon Oil Rig in 2.
F4 protagonist - just because he has no level cap. You get more health every level, so he's crazy tanky.
Can upgrade his SPECIAL stats.
Upgrade his power armour and weapons will all sorts of weird stuff.
Actually killing him will get to a point where it's like trying to kill Fawkes.
>>316561282
even though bethesda wasn't too great with f3 I still think it's better off that interplay doesn't have fallout anymore
BoS was shit and they were in process of turning the series into consoles only
Tactics was okay
>>316561320
>John Cassidy
>not worth mentioning
Who's stronger, the Master's army or the Enclave?
>>316556884
Chosen one at their strongest. Luck was stupid overpowered. Like "An errant shot from a laser rifle traveled through space into a wormhole that spit it out in a time long ago and ended up hitting the surface of the Deathstar in such a way that distracted a pilot that ended up crashing and starting a chain reaction and is what actually caused its' destruction." overpowered.
Courier otherwise. So much shit happens they basically become some shitty fanfics' mary/marty stu.
>>316561609
Enclave if we include Frank Horrigan. He was just ridiculous
>>316559470
It could be worse. It could be 'Cali'.
>>316561609
The enclave, anon. They have higher tech, everyone wears power armor,CIA Frank,and vertibirds.
>>316560089
>Implying it won't be one of the DLC Expansions
Todd's going to Milk this for all it's worth.
>>316561609
Well the strongest thing the Enclave had to offer was nukes if I recall, an that won't do much to Super Mutants except ones directly in the epicenter maybe.
They had a Frank but it wouldn't take that many muties to take him down.
>>316561609
>implying Muties have as much ordinance as the Enclave
>implying the Enclave will allow Muties to breathe the same air as them
>>316561795
but anon
Frank Horrigan IS a mutie
>>316561569
It's the lesser of two evils, both of them were going to fuck it up for the worse as time went on.
fallout 2 man with dog that makes everyone fuck up
>>316556884
FO1&FO2 have the power of Slayer.
EVERY UNARMED HIT IS A CRIT
>>316560513
>Can't help Colonel Autumn take control of the Enclave, join, and help them gain a foothold in DC, allowing them to start rebuilding the capital
This shouldn't be hard Bethesda, you even managed to make them not super cartoonishly evil aside from Eden
>>316561778
>paid DLC for Enclave plot
>paid DLC for peace between Brotherhood and Institute ending
>paid DLC for intelligent Deathclaws
>paid DLC for more aliens
>paid DLC to go anywhere other than Massachusetts
>>316561471
They were already present yeah, but the development of the advanced power armour began in 2198.
Chosen One + high luck + high agility + gauss pistol + sniper + fast shot + better criticals + bonus rate of fire + action boy = literally everything dies in a single combat round.
>>316561892
They would have killed him later, or at least make an attempt to. He was useful and loyal to the Enclave, you don't put down shit like that easily.
Chosen One. How the fuck are you going to kill a 10 luck jinxed build wearing APA Mk2 and getting guaranteed one shot kills on everything no matter their armor with a gauss rifle at max range with the sniper perk.
>>316561938
Don't forget that with the right build, every crit puts you over the threshold for instant kills.
>>316561569
>>316561927
Fun Fact: Fallout licenses would have belong to Tim Cain if Bethesda didn't outbid him.
>>316561795
when the Master was still alive they had ordinance
>>316561957
Ah, okay. Sorry.
>replaced weak flesh with strong metal
>army of self-repairing combat robots
>all the tech in the world and a group of scientist who will make even more for you
>Satellite laser cannon
Courier
>>316561995
We Kenshiro now
>>316562012
that's depressing if true
>>316562025
Oh I thought you were talking about the Warrior in the Calculator ending.
>>316561892
>Frank Horrigan IS a mutie
A secret service agent with mental problems before he was even a mutant, given modified power armor.
>You're a big guy!
>>316562012
>troika could of gotten fallout
Damn
wish that company didn't go under
>>316562070
http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23766
>DAC: What was your initial reaction when you learned that Bethesda bought the license from Interplay?
>Tim: I was surprised and a little disappointed. I was hoping that Troika would get the license, but we were massively outbid. But in the end, they made a good game, and I went to a great company to make MMOs, so all was well.
It's very true.
>>316560558
The Perk Chart is a step backwards in character development but it is not entirely garbage. It's a lot like an upgraded skyrim leveling system with perk levels being level gated, they also integrated a lot of new vegas and FO3 perks into the perk levels so its at times like leveling an old skill and getting a tied in perk at the same time. Its not the best system but its a lot better than I was expecting. Magazines found in the world work as a sorta extra perk system now i.e. read an issue of Grognak and get +5% crit damage in melee, they are mostly bland like this.
Im about 30 hours in on Survival and havent had major issues in dealing with anything, the leveled area system works like Oblivion and when working through quest lines you will get brought into more difficult areas the further into the line you get. The best part in my opinion is the fire fights can last a rather long time (health sponges on enemy ai) and can turn in a second for or against you from a clever flank or nade or another faction deciding to join the fight. I see a lot of people complain about the Health pools of enemies on survival but i enjoy the challenge when its actually challenging. I think the hate is coming from the change to the skill system as everything else feels like business as usual for beth and though I miss the thought you could out into characters in past Fallout games I do not find myaelf hating the system.
>>316561113
>got rid of the sick cooling fan on the back.
You
Fuckin
Wot
>>316560609
>The player character will continue to explode every 10 seconds until their health is 20+.
Who can beat this shit?
>>316562120
>they made a good game
Is he just being modest or was he just happy Interplay didn't have it anymore either way.
>>316562248
Sniper'd or Slayer'd Vault Dweller or Chosen One, or ARCHIMEDES sattelite laser beam could do the trick. Or like any other conventional weapon.
>>316562249
This was during the time when Bethesda still hold some RPG credibility because of their success with Morrowind, despite the Oblivion shitfest. Well, at least he manage to give Wildstar some decent lore before he left for another company.
>>316560609>>316562248
It only activates when your health hits 20 or below, so if he has 21 health and gets hit for 21+ damage, he's already dead
>>316556884
they'd all die to the dragonborn anyways
>>316558269
>take idiot savant
>quick load right before quest turn ins
>always get x3 and x5 xp on all quest
>5 hours into the game and level 20
kek
>>316559789
Not much I can do without the original background, but here.
NV is the only FO game I've played all the way, and aside from the Euclid's C-Finder, I don't see what he gets that makes him a better fighter standalone.
>>316562413
From what I saw in another interview, it looks like his main complaint was in how previous elements were reused and the writing. Outside of that, he seemed to think the SPECIAL adaption in an FPS-ish game was neat, along with some of the other things brought into 3D.
It seems he actually liked 3 despite everything.Wonder how he feels about 4.
>>316560609
It's just one of those pissant mini-nuke explosions that are barely bigger than a normal explosion but still leaves a mushroom cloud because retards don't know how fucking explosions work.
>>316562492
you didn't play the DLC did you. he gets ridiculously strong from big MT.
>>316556884
>>316562443
More important question, /v/- who has the coolest looking armor and helmet set?
>>316561778
Since Im a fan of the enclave I wouldnt mind seeing them again.
But even if they do, why the fuck are these advanced suits sitting in places like on top of a fucking satelite relay dish?
New vegas treated them as they are, powerful relics that are so secret that many fallout players probably didnt even know the armour was included in the game
>>316562592
Warrior has a cape but Courier has a long-ass coat, tough decision.
>>316562581
You know, that's a really good point.
>>316558853
Chosen OneHE HAS A CAR
>>316562440
>swords and magic beating guns and power armor
lmao
>>316562592
Advanced Power Armor without a doubt
>>316562592
Ranger armor by far
>>316562592
Warrior obviously.
>>316562443
Looks pretty good man!
Googling "scratched black background" gives you some nice alternatives to the original if you do want to make it look more similar.
>implying the Chosen One still has his car
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Wrecked_Highwayman
Warrior wins, plebs.
>>316558853
Lone Wanderer. He's a star ship captain.
Can any of the other PCs beat that? That one destroyer beam shot at earth probably gave him the highest kill count of all the protagonists too.
>>316562592
Adv. Power Armor > Ranger Outfit > Mid-Western > T-51b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T-60 > T-45d
>>316562443
wtf? what's the third one and how can I get that bitch!!
>>316561892
What are you talking about? He's just a normal secret service agent.
>>316562826
Play Fallout Tactics.
>>316562808
Mothership Zetta is too retarded, we don't take that into account
>>316562785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czucDVV949M
F R A N K H O R R I G A N
>>316562443
These niggas look like Bionicles.
is the armor the lone wanderer gets from operation anchorage as powerful as advanced power armor?
>>316562826
>TFW there's already a post in this thread about how it's not available in FO4.
>>316562592
Ranger Duster > T-60 > T-45 > APA > T-51 > Midwestern APA
>>316557575
Isn't 1 just wearing a helmet only.
>>316562785
If you want to be a real faggot about it he's also either been dead for years or become an old man at that point.
>>316562893
Sorry. This is reality.
>>316562592
Not F3/NV/F4. That pipboy ruins everything.
>>316562931
No, but a prime set of t-51b is nothing to scoff at.
APA is better
Reminder that Chosen One's now a crazy-ass dude ranting about invisible chupacabras with automatic weaponry
>>316562808
I thought you couldn't do jack shit with the spaceship other than that.
>>316561778
Ah, the milk of human kindness. Truly what makes humans strong.
>>316562957
No you are thinking of the install art in Fallout 2 that has a tribal with a busted helmet
>>316562761
God I love that they made the Ranger Armor the "canon" Courier armor instead of going with Power Armor again
Shit's stylish as fuck
>>316562779
Lolnah.
I shop for shits and gigs by request. If you want it better, I'll make it better, otherwise it can go fuck off now I'm done.
>>316558923
The Ending missions of Fallout 2 could be classified as one suicide run after another, mind you the DLC stuff of the wanderer in 3 are very brutal also.
>>316560089
Bigger change is that they run on fusion cores that drain in minutes instead of lasting for a goddamn century.
>>316563180
Millennia actually. T-51B is supposed to last one thousand years.
>>316563145
I never even touched Power Armor in NV because of it. Well, also because you move slow as fuck wearing that shit.
>>316562592
Ranger. Seriously who says Advanced?
>>316562941
FUCK!!!!!!!
>>316561735
It could be worse. It could be "Frisco".
>>316563121
Shit looking at that image I realize we have all been forgetting something
The protag of 2 gets the Fallout Player's Guide after the end of the game (visiting the drunk priest in New Reno), he actually knows everything that will happen. (that and massive XP - level gains)
>>316563174
Make it better.
>>316563336
You didn't say please, faggot.I'm gonna have some dinner then I'll think about it.
>>316562761
>tfw you realize he's just wearing some plain-ass pants
I think the Lonesome Road set fixed that. Once I saw that originally, the entire set was ruined for me.
>>316562592
>>316562668
>>316562752
>>316562761
>>316562765
>>316562823
>>316562953
>>316563038
>>316563252
Fuck the posterboy armors on the game covers, if you wanna RULE you need a vintage TUNNEL SNAKES JACKET.
Yes or No?
>Black Isle will never make another Fallout game
why live
>>316563361
Why did they make the male protagonist's ass better than the female?
Stop trying to make me gay bethesda.that is a nice ass though
>>316563478
i would definitely a goris
>>316563415
>Hating on the ranger armor's ballin' slacks
Real men don't need stupid metal diapers.
>>316563415
>Lonesome Road fixed that
>just throws a bunch of chunky green ceramic shit all over the place
Reminder that Rangers are supposed to be cowboys, and there is nothing more cowboy than patrolling the Mojave in blue denim jeans.
>>316563415
nigga its ranger armour. you're not gonna run around in greaves and all.
Which Fallout has the worst guns?Trick question. It's Fallout 4
>>316563536
in game they actually look like Levis, so even cooler
>>316563051
>I thought you couldn't do jack shit with the spaceship other than that.
Just like everyone makes their couriers into cyborg mojave taming masterminds with big irons on their hip, my Lone Wanderer fixed the ship up and is currently eating fancy lads while watching deathclaws fight each other in the teleportation bay.
>>316563579
i didn't think they could top the combat shotgun from fallout 3
>>316557295
>>316557451
I would also say this just because of two things
1. No level limit means he can max out all of his perks and SPECIAL
2. Mechanics-wise the SS doesn't suffer as much from debuffs in the game because of the increased emphasis on HPFO4 power armor is shit though, The Courier in Ganon Family Tesla would wipe his anus clean and I don't mean that sexually.
>>316563579
I wouldn't mind this if it wasn't literally "the asssault rifle." THE assault rifle? Shouldn't that look like an FN FAL or something instead of a Lewis Gun?
>>316562986
I choose to ignore it for my own sanity.
>>316559390
East Coast also has a airship load of power armor, it's practically "Hi, my name's Arthur Maxson, would you like to hear about you being inside this suit of power armor? Step right in!"
You know, I was very surprise to come across this weapon when the game gave us an equivalent version of it, the Ripper, since the first game.
>>316563774
video games have been slowly shying away from anything to do with real weapons probably due to licensing. they still could have made some in universe name up for it though. but then again fallout always has generic weapon names.
>>316563693
well fallout 4 protag has access to x-o1 and t51b which are the 2nd best armors, if we are comparing games you can pretty much ignore the fact that the armor takes fusion cores or that the defense values are totally different because they are just different games with different numbers and it's technically the same armor
>>316563040
>My GodI AM VAULT TECH!
>>316562931
No, but a bug that was never patched makes it so that it's condition never goes down
>>316563941
The guide bar is so very short.
just going by the shit that they survive and in game shit probably the courier.
but if we take a logical look at it and assume that they could potentially killed just as easily as all the random raiders and shit you kill its probably a tie between courier and Fallout 4 guy depending on whatever endings are cannon.
and assuming that the endings that result in them being the most powerful are cannon here is what they have
>courier can potentially be the guy in charge of new vegas and he has fuck tons of Death machine securitrons to at his disposal as well as potentailly the guys and Tech from big MT to help him
>Fallout 4 guy can potentially be the leader of the minutemen who are looking to possibly end up becoming the west coasts version of the NCR if given enough time as well as potentially being the leader of the Institute at the same time and having all the Tech and scientists as well as an army of Synths at his disposal
>>316563774
Or, you know, the assault rifle the US military was using throughout the rest of the games.
>>316564131
>a bug
all this time I thought that was to get across the level of quality a near mint pre-war suit of power armor had.
>>316564194
>minutefags
>potential to become anything but pin cushions for bullets
those guys are fucking pathetic
>>316563579
Is that water cooled?
>>316564429
Nobody knows, not even Bethesda.
>>316562217
Even if their bonuses are mostly underwhelming, I do like how the magazines are all unique issues. Plus they flesh out the world in a neat way, tying into the silver shroud stuff and all that
>>316558576
>implying I didnt go straight for Operation Anchorage in Fallout 3 with its stupid level scaling.
>>316564624
also, I like how bethesda was at least smart enough to make the comics as expensive as they should be (on the cover) with the shitty economy and inflation, and not just 10c because "that's how it was in the 50s"
>>316556884
The Chosen from Fallout 2, since he can achieve level 99.
>>316564676
>rush to operation anchorage
>do equipment exploit
>absolutely destroy the entire game with your unlimited condition sniper, smg, missile launcher and rail gun
>>316562592
The courier, no contest, especially with the pimp boy 3 billion.
>>316564901
Doesn't even have to grind for it, just gets the Fallout 2 Hintbook and instantly has maxed stats.
>>316564901
FO4 doesn't have a level cap.
>>316556884
Well, two of them may end up leading their own armies. I don't know who would win in a fight between a few thousands of minutemen and hundreds of robots.
>>316564936
But you get it after finishing the game...
>>316564970
And that's why I dislike games without level caps.
You can literally end up as some physical god.
>Vault Dweller
Destroys a army of super mutants and the motherfucking master himself
>Chosen One
Manages to take on the remnant of the government of the united state and free his tribe, all by himself
>Lone Wanderer
Effectively the above, with the added bonus of being abducted by aliens, taking on redneck swamp things and surviving a orbital laser strike
>The Courier
Survived and conquered either the NCR or Legion in the Mojave, while also traversing the Divide and Sierra Madre by himself, building alliances and being a badass in the middle of a warzone
You know, every PC has been a badass to be honest.
>>316558148
I was actual disappointed when they weren't part of Fallout 4 but then again I should be happy that Bethesda is respectful enough to do their own thing and not dabbling too much in the older work.
>>316558576
That's shit because it runs out of batteries once you're done fighting that deathclaw, rendering it useless.
>>316560513
What? The armor literally spawns out of nowhere? Are you serious?
Where'd you find it?
>>316563121
Well the power armor is just a helmet icon in Fallout 1, but your whole body is covered in power armor.
>>316565243
Eh, Tactics isn't considered true canon. It's in a sort of limbo state where you can use whatever you want from the game as flavor, but nothing that happens in the game itself is considered canon.
>>316565259
Power armor stuff is scaled, yes, with a few exceptions. There is a suit of Raider II armor in the middle of the glowing sea, in a cave.
>>316562702
Yeah, so you have to stop every now and then to scavenge fucking power cells from abandoned Area 51s all over the states. It'll be faster to just walk or ride a brahmin or whatever.
Courier > VD=CO >LW=FO4
I place Bethesda's protagonists last because their true intelligence and charisma values are minus 10.
>>316565172
>Comparing the Fallout 3 mutants with the mutants of Fallout 1
>Comparing the insult that is the Enclave in 3 with the Enclave from 2
Lone Wanderer isn't even close to the feats of the Vault Dweller or Chosen One
The mutants in 3 are literally retards and unorganized and can't even fuck up the sorry excuse that is the BoS in 3. In 1 they are smart, organized, have Nightkin, have a fucking military base and easily wipe out the Brotherhood of Steel once they get moving. if you aren't fast enough they wipe the entire fucking wasteland.
The Enclave in 2 are at the peak of their power, with everything they ever fucking invented in pristine condition. The Enclave Armor in 3 is weaker than the T51.
>>316560513
Theyre likely not as abundant as before. This game takes place years after Fallout 3, so not only were the Enclave beaten back in the Mojave, but they were also beaten in DC. How many more members could they have?
Courier, because Implant GRX. Made combat trivial. Dodging everything and punching shit like the motherfucking fist of the north star.
>>316558148
my nigerian brethren! tactics is the best.
>>316565494
Courier+GRX+EMP gun=no survivor
>>316560609
>people stand on vault 111 elevator platform
>nuclear weapon detonated nearby
>they don't get burned by intense radiation and blinded by bright light before shockwave
>>316565375
It's for the best honestly. I liked tactic's story, but it played pretty fast & loose with the lore.
Still, would be nice to see the Cheyenne facility and the rest of NORAD in some form in a future game
>>316566139
>intense radiation
>can literally swim in irradiated water
Stop. This game isnt realistic. People dont listen to the same 20 songs and wear the same clothes for 200+ years.
The vaults likely had rations of Radaway in them.
>>316566517
>doesnt understand suspension of disbelief
in a cutscene especially all laws are enforced since gameplay isnt a factor. unless nuclear bombs somehow dont have the same effects in fallout as they do in our world (hint: they do) then this is a stupid and lazy piece of writing that is typical of bethesda
they could have very easily written something that made sense and conveyed the same message, but no, they had to blow their wad and have the bomb literally go off in the distance
fucking stupid
I like this kind of reverse obvious bait. It really shows how stupid most people here are.
>>316566716
>Radiation causes ghoulification instead of cancer
>Uses Rads instead of Grays
>No adverse effects for low level obtuse exposure
Get fucked m8, I bet you knock over your own sippy cup just to be salty
>>316563336
>>316563409
>>316559789
Dinner's over.
DCI 4K because I hate you.
>>316559581
What about vault dwellers saucer from mothership Z
>>316566831
>everyone is stupid!
>except me!
>>316566905
Straight up radiation doesn't turn you into a ghoul.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Die-ary_of_Trash
>>316566716
>in a cutscene all laws are enforced
No, they would follow the same laws as ij gameplay, or THAT would be stupid writing.
And Nuclear explosions DONT have the same effects as in real life. Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Theres defintley deformed creatures there, right?
>>316566918
You're da best.
>>316559789
>>316562443
>>316563174
Never Change /v/
>>316566716
I don't know how fast a nuclear bomb's blast wave actually moves but the explosion itself was at least 5 miles away from your location and the lift started moving as soon as it went off, you only have to be under the surface to not feel the effects of the shock wave and heat and it's reasonable they could make it in time.
>>316567013
Yes it can.
See Vault Tec Rep for example.
>>316567013
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Camp_Searchlight
I have more test subjects
>>316567013
Nobody can decide how ghouls are made.
The NCR at Camp Searchlight were turned into feral ghouls overnight. The Marked Men were ghoulified instantly. Carol states that the ghoulification process worked over months and years.
>>316566517
>walk in knee deep water
>no rads
>walk just a bit deeper
>10 rads/s
>drink water
>3 rads
>>316567398
Exactly my point. That shit should be dissolving your legs if it followed real life laws.
>>316567461
letting radiation origin inside your body should cause some debuff like 2 rads/s that wouldn't go away until you get help.
>>316561778
>>316561942
This is a Bethesda game. Even if you buy the base game, you know you can just pirate the expansions right?
>>316567461
>That shit should be dissolving your legs if it followed real life laws.
wat
>>316556884
Haven't maxed out in 4, but probably the Courier. Those attack speed mods are too good
Why is the Ranger armor the sexiest?
>>316567461
But water is an absolutely amazing radiation insulator. It's what they actually store the hot fuel rods in while they cool off.
If the water is irradiated enough to be dangerous to swim in, everything not submerged in water should be a hundred times more irradiated.
>>316560275
>Todd literally killed Harold
he didnt deserve it
>>316563219
I could have sworn it was 800 years.
>>316556884
Courier
>not a vault kid, long experience with survival in wilderness
>all Big Empty resources and cyberenhancements
>cash from Sierra Madre
>robot army
>>316558853
>>316562702
this is the right answer
>>316561738
>>316567805
Bethesda fucked up whole water thing pretty badly. In F1/2/NV water is not a problem (water chip is a different story). This is Bethesda-bad.
>>316563180
>>316563219
>>316567946
Worst part is beth totally had an out in that regard.
The second generation of pre-fusion power armor ran on batteries that were notoriously short lived.
It would've raised eyebrows but not totally shat on the lore if Boston had a glut of early model power armor.but that won't explain the Enclave Armor and whatever the fuck T-60 is supposed to be when 51 was declared the most advanced model as of 2077
>>316567691
Because it's closest to Wasteland Ranger Armor.
>That feel when the original I.P. dies and the remains grow into their own series.
>>316563431
>not the superior Mad Max inspired leather jacket
>>316567959
>Chosen One has a car
>Warrior has a fucking APC and a few squadmates levelled and geared up as much as he is riding along
>potentially including mutants, sentient deathclaws and goddamn combat robots
>>316568073
I liked how they handled it in New Vegas. Most of the bigger bodies of water you come across are clean, since they're flowing rivers and all that. The only irradiated water sources you come across are stagnant puddles and submerged areas in caves and vaults that were tainted by reactor leaks and malfunctioning machinery.
How does it feel to know that no matter how much you upgrade your character, you will never be as strong as this son of a bitch?
Thanks Todd!
>>316568306
Feels good knowing that I'm not a furry retard who bumblefucks right into tripwires, grenades and mininukes.
Could the Enclave trash the original US army?
>>316568306
>B)YOU'RE A MUTT
>>316562592
Courier, followed by Fallout 1/2. Can't decide if APA or T51b is cooler
>>316568412
Fuck no.
Enclave WERE the army, and there are significantly less after the bombs. Adv PA and Vertibirds (fuck you todd they were still prototypes pre-war) Mean sweet FA against the might of an entire country.
>>316568410
Still doesnt die. God spelt backwards brah
>>316563579
The Combat Shotgun in 3 and that are the worst guns. The others at least aren't overtly retarded looking from a glance. New Vegas had the best guns.
>>316568412
They're one of the same really. The enclave are more like the CIA compared to the US army.
If they were to go to war every head of the military would disappear and the rest would fall to shit.
>>316568283
if you're counting tactics, might as well go all the way
>>316568510
He won't die, but he'll sure as fuck never have friends or even a living owner if he trips another fucking bomb right next to him.
>>316564624
Man, those silver shroud quests were charming as fuck.Courtenay Taylor sounded qt hamming it up
>>316567461
Eh, you can't really apply real world laws to Fallout radiation.
>>316568684
The Silver Shroud quests were honestly the only part of the game where a voiced protagonist aided it, for me.
It was just stupid fun,until the nerdy ghoul was executed.
>>316567691
It's the gasmask.
>>316568812
>mfw I managed to save him
I think it's broken a bit, the guy always targets him first and he has like 1 hp
>>316567461
I didn't know that radiation turns water into acid.
>>316568812
>not saving your loyal sidekick
You're not Shroud material
Chosen One > Vault Dweller > Courrier > Fallout 4 nigger > Lone Wanderer
>>316568942
>>316568884
I didn't have enough charisma, and I still gave combat a few goes. Tried drugs, VATS but still no avail.
Hung up the costume and never wore it again after that.
>>316564429
Visually yeah, hence the 2 ports on either side of the barrel.
Fucking stupid design. Gun also does like 70 damage when fully upgraded, with a 80 round magazine. It's brokenly overpowered.
>>316568283
>implying Chosen One wasn't accompanied by supermutants, ghouls, sentient deathclaws and robots
also APC is too slow compared to Highwayman
>>316569063
>Tried drugs
Does F4 have Turbo?
>>316568756
Which is what I was saying. Some fuckwad tried to say the fallout cutscenes should follow real life radiation.
>>316566716
>>316569021
Sole Survivor > Chosen One > Courier > Lone Wanderer > Vault Dweller
>>316562592
I like T-51s rounder look.
>>316558148
I swear to god the first mods I want in this game is Midwest armor and unlimited fusion cores.and then we can get into the sexlab
>>316569658
You can just give yourself infinite fusion cores instead of getting a mod
player.additem 00075fe4 9999
>>316569756
M8 the moment creation kit comes out I am changing the drain rate of armor to literally take 800 years. I am more greatly offended from a lore point of view than gameplayand I realize that it makes power armor broken as fuck
>>316569658
never much cared for the armor itself, but the shoulder mantle is cool as fuck. it's the kind of overt knightly stylings i always thought the BoS were kinda missing. Only the hoods really evoke it otherwise
>>316569658
I had 45 spare cores by the time I finished the game, and that was without the nuclear perk. Aluminum was more of a concern to me.
But as anon said, you can just use the console.
The only answer is the protagonist from UnderRail. Bitch has psionic powers and can make you poop your pants with a look, or punch from across the room with a mental fist.
>>316569980
A punch from across a room is a little weak compared to a .50 from across the desert.
>>316570131
I haven't tried the psionic martial artist build yet but apparently it's bretty good. I'm not sure if it calculates your fist weapons damage with it, but if it does, then you can basically do ranged melee attacks with an electrically charged Power Fist.
>>316569862
I mean, as it is cores are common enough to be in power armor most of the time but it's just a nuisance managing that I agreee
>>316563506
Fallout 4 is so much worse, it's amazing.
If I buy Fallout 1&2 on Steam, none of my money is going to Bethesda. Right?
Is there a better companion than Valentine? He's pretty much on the same level as Raul I think
>>316570457
ehehehe
>>316570467
I liked Danse and Valentine equally.
>>316570457
Well they're the publisher so I assume...
>>316570542
Danse is pretty cool, if a bit autistic.I got a real buzz lightyear feeling from him
>>316570573
So far he's the only companion who hasn't disliked me because I steal from trashbins.
>>316570467
Danse was pretty good, too.
>>316570467
Grampy bone.
>>316568283
> APC
Dude. The Warrior can get a fuckton of vehicles including a Tank.
>>316570890
Speaking of tanks, did anyone see the one in someone's backyard in Fort Hagen?
>>316569980
Wait Under Rail is finished? I haven't kept up with it in ages.
>>316571329
/k/ would have a blast taking this piece of shit apart.
>>316571329
no but i saw that tank in a minefield somewhere, dont remember where, it was near a radio signal with some chem salesman raider
>>316571329
>>316571549
>>316571385
I love it, its like the fucking apocalypse tank or mammoth tank from red alert
>>316571549
>>316571329
That actually looks kinda neat. I know tanks were phased out by power armor because of how scarce fuel and shit became, but I never really thought about how they would look and all that.
>>316558085
Tunnellers
Nukes
Holograms
Red Mist
The Sierra Madre/Divide are some of the most dangerous places in the Wasteland, along with the Big MT.
>>316571754
yea, i was really happy to see these
>>316562761
I miss this armour.
Armour in FO4 sucks cock, and Power Armour is now just a fancy power-up.
>>316561420
>>316561296
Oh sure, go with Courier! The guy who LITERALLY FAILS TO PROTECT A CONVOY IN THE FIRST 2 MINUTES OF THE HONEST HEARTS DLC. I AM SO SAFE !
>>316571938
I'm sure mods will bring it back. Best part is, the duster will actually have physics to it instead of it being awkwardly tied to your legs.
Lore wise, FO3 character because retarded Mothership Zeta being able to destroy the world.
Game wise, I want to say NV character, because of how good close combat can be in that game, plus poisons. Forgot the name, but the courier can use that paralyzing poison on some tomahawks, get in close with a bumper sword or ballistic fist, and utterly fuck the other characters dirty.
That's a trick question. Since it's the protag, you can customize stats, so you can never answer that question. They are incomparable.
>>316572032
I hope they will re-texture/model it.
Seriously weapon and armour design in FO4 is really bad IMO. They look really ugly and stupid. I know Beth want to make them look distinctive but it just doesn't work.
>>316571805
>the Big MT
>big em tee
Holy shit I've never noticed that before.
>>316561792
Master had a nuke tucked away in case he'd encounter an enemy he couldn't beat.
>>316572221
>big empty
Yeah and the brains in jars get mad if you say that instead of big mountain
>Vault Dweller
>Chosen One
>Warrior
>???
>The Courier
>Sole Survivor?
What's 3's protagonist handle?
>>316572530
Lone Wanderer.
>>316572530
Lone Wanderer.
>roaming around trying to get to some ghoul hideout for some settlers
>Feral Legendary Radstag
>go from max hp to 0 in 3 seconds
They ain't kidding when they said this game could be gay at times
I need the Fallout 3 and New Vegas image comparisons with relationships about groups, guns, quests, etc.
Can you help me out?
>>316572570
>>316572572
Thanks.
>>316572327
It all makes sense now. Seriously, I don't know how I missed that throughout 3 playthroughs.
>>316556884
Fallout 3 protag can have 10's in all SPECIAL attributes and be a master of everything. His ridiculous power ruins everything. NV is a close second followed by 4 who can't be good at everything despite what people are claiming (You'd have to spend years IRL to achieve that.) , followed by 1 who rips through the wasteland with relative ease if he's specced for it then fallout 2's protag is dead last. Even combat builds lose to geckos from time to time.
>>316572672
Courier defeated a guy all 10 in his SPECIAL. Stats mean jack shit.
>>316557513
And yet the kiddies go "Buh,..buh...buh the Sole Survivor maaaaang!"
>>316572812
Well, assuming you play all the protags and give them their combat abilities then yes SPECIAL means everything.
Fallout 3's protag and the courier would fight exactly the same depending on the player, only difference is Fallout 3's protag has better stats and would win.
>>316568306
it's definitely an homage to Arcanum where the Useless Mutt can btfo the melee grandmaster npc
>three settlers live in a shitty barn and grow shitty potatoes in the middle of nowhere
>raiders live in a well-protected place, have built two wind turbines and a turret, which requires substantial engineering skill
>frag count of an average raider is nowhere near Sole Survivor's frag count
>settlers and good, build them a wall
>raiders are bad, let's make them attack on sight
Why. I don't want to help those shitty peasants, I want to help those who deserve it
>>316573204
You're free to not help settlers anon.
THe reason you can't help the raiders is because they'll shoot you in the dick if they see you because they're raiders.
>>316562808
And the ship blows up and crashes because of the Chosen One's insane luck
>>316573343
Which is strange, highwaymen don't just kill and rob - after all, how are they going to spend money if everybody hates them?
>>316573204
>>316573343
Question is, why the fuck are they raiders if they can build all that? They can start a society or become warlords but they raid potatoe farmers? Wtf?
I'm seeing a pattern in your pic, OP.
>>316573204
>"""""""""""""Raiders""""""""""""" having a good time, racing robots, no signs they ever harmed anyone
>They have no choice but to watch as a power-armored maniac tears each of them apart with his bare hands
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Settlers""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" want me to go there and brutally murder them
>They probably just want to loot the cool shiny robot parts after the bloodbath is over
>>316573539
>see some asshole walking towards base carrying a gorillion really nice guns
>look down at shitty pipe gun and feel keked
Plus all they ever talk about is drugs and murder. Not exactly rational folk
>>316573618
Human nature. Especially when those humans huff jet. Why buy what you can take by force?
>>316560038
You forgot the part where, in this case, the 'bad man' was an eldritch abomination capable of killing people using its mind, and led its own army of 7 ft super humans.
>>316573780
vault dweller was also the only guy who did it with a time limit
>>316573780
To be fair, the "Super Mutant Army" is probably 100 to 200 Super Mutants tops. You kill that many in Fallout 3 going to the grocery store.
And the Master can't kill you with his mind.
He definitely has some abillity to wound with his mind....but that very well could have been telekinesis or an extension of his gross ass body.
>>316562808
Not sure about others, but I'm know the Lone Wanderer at least can get legit max stats(both SPECIAL and skills) even without armor bonuses.
>>316573618
>they raid potatoe farmers
Actually, that's how you become a warlord, I believe. First you raid farmers, then you start beating those who try to raid the same farmers you're raiding, then you start just taking a share of their harvests instead of everything, justifying it by protection you give (that is, from other gangs), and voila - you have a state with with armed force and tax system. In a few generations, the system becomes more polished and complex, and you are remembered as a legendary king that brought peace and prosperity to the land, ruled his subjects wisely and now sleeps under a mountain of car piles to wake up in dire times again.
>>316562217
Melee negates a lot of this. Sometimes you get thrown into a situation where the enemy has a weapon that can simply shit out too much DPS for you to reasonably tank before you kill them but most of the time it acts like a completely different dynamic. Higher base damage per swing helps negate big pools of armor, also helps for smashing pieces off of power armor. Stuns and disarms are naturally built into the weapons, there's many perks to help you absorb damage while up close and disrupt enemies, and most importantly when you rush through the enemies "front line" you often find opportunities to single out individual enemies where with guns you might end up having to poke in and out of cover while they exploit the homefield advantage.
>>316573724
The raiders at the Dunwitch Mine were pretty much worshipping Cthulu and letting him turn them into ghouls
The organization is much worse than it seems
>>316556884
Chosen One can go full cyborg, seems like a winner
>>316573618
They have no higher goals or if they're people like the Forged their goals are very violent. They aren't out to secure the best living for themselves, that's what regular people are. They're out there for the rush of violence and destruction.
Kind of like many members of ISIS. They don't really give a shit about muh caliphate restoration they signed up to play CoD in real life.
Probably the Courier, he was a nobody who barely escaped death that became an influential political figure in the wastes by sheer luck.
>>316572001
That DLC was bullshit and you know it.
posting some of my fav art
>>316563506
>Dammit, Lenny
>Dammit, Lenny
>Dammit, Lenny
>Dammit, Lenny>Dammit, Lenny>Dammit, Lenny
>>316574921
To play devil's advocate that's probably most violent organization's average member though.
People join the military to play CoD in real life.
People become gang bangers to play CoD in real life.
People join terrorist organizations to play CoD in real life.
Could we achieve world piece by having death sports?
>>316575168
>death sports
I mean it's worth a shot
If it's a lore question wouldn't Courier just rek everybody with his army and technology?
And Chosen One would rek everybody with his Advanced PA mkII + shitton of implants combined into godly resistances and thresholds while 100% critting everybody.
>>316556884
Chosen or Courier
>>316575456
Having an army isn't much of an advantage really.
Not when you're talking about a fight between guys who can single handedly raid a military base on a daily basis.
When Islamic terrorists attack Bethesda office, Todd will just turn on the lights and fall through textures while they try to deal with 2 FPS.
>>316569153
yes
>>316569153
Don't do drugs m8
>>316575630
It's not like those other guys can wipe all his armies at once. And he still has all that hoarded technology.
>>316557575
thats a veteran ranger
those guys dont need power armor
>>316570542
Fuck danse that hypocrite faggot. At least Valentine doesn't lie about being a synth.
>>316576314
>power armor doesn't effect your ability to move, sneak, or do anything really.
>t-they don't need it!
ok kid, sure.
>>316575917
Excellent.
So what's the explanation for power armor needing batteries?
>>316577220
I haven't gotten very far yet but the first power armor is t-45, the first power armor ever used.
It's shit and runs through batteries too quickly.
In the other games you had better suits that could use the microfusion packs more efficiently, like hundreds of years more efficiently.
>>316577220
Gameplay.
>>316577220
Read the description for Power Armor in Fallout 1 bro.
>>316577674
So FO3 and NV are retconned now because devs are indecisive
>>316563941
>we want the wolfenstein crowd
>>316578165
>devs are indecisive
You should read up about ghouls.
>>316578493
Why, what'd they do?
>>316577220
They always needed batteries. It's just that the battery life is supposed to be a gazillion times longer than it is in F4.
>>316578630
There was a whole thing in the Fallout bible where Chris Avellone said they were created by a mix of radiation and FEV floating around in the atmosphere and Tim Cain corrected him saying it was actually just radiation that creates them, because radiation in the Fallout universe works like it would in a pulp sci-fi horror movie from the 50's and 60's rather than how it works in the real world. The way it's shown how ghoulifacation works in the games is all over the fucking place though.
Sometimes people are ghoulified instantly, other times they just get cooked by the radiation and die, or just grow an extra toe. It's super inconsistent.
>>316579063
I like the version of it being the FEV+Rads mix, that makes way more sense.
>>316562929
THE FEELS ARGHHHHH
>>316559945
>Fallout 3 protag was shit.
>Lone Wanderer has the most versatile skill set.
It's like you're not even trying.
>>316560089
cryogenics work
this means vaults shouldn't exist
bravo beshitsda
>>316579958
Do you have any idea of what you're talking about or just spouting stupid bullshit for no reason?
>>316570542
Yeah kinda sad I executed Danse for being a Synth
>>316579958
>see one (and only one) cryo'd person in the whole series who turns to gloop because of it
>terminal mentions that turning to gloop is an issue, but doesn't specify if 100% of people frozen turn to gloop
>therefore a completely different method of cryo (no bio-gel or whatever it was is used in Fo4) shouldn't work either
The Fallout 2 Chosen One.
he has the first alien blaster, most dmg of any gun in Fo1 and 2, eye shot with that thing can do like 500 damage. Sole Survivor, Holy hand grenade of antioch which is basically a mini nuke that you throw, does like 300 damage and he has that hypo off of the Federation Crash which heals your entire health pool instantly with no penalties.
>>316571347
No, that's just a pic of the updated graphics of the Beta version, which should be rolling out at some point soon-ish.
>>316556884
F2 protagonist
APAMKII vindicator sniper better crit brd can instant kill anything in the game, including motherfucing frank in 1 turn
>>316557513
kung fu jinxed AC build best build
>>316557667
>Not Denver
Denver is probably the most dangerous place to go
>>316558853
Chosen One
My char was god at the endgame, and he had a flying car for safe travels
>>316561076
jinxed stack with pariah dog?
>>316559459
in fallout 1, 300% was the limit too, but it didn't cost more to raise above 100
which is why you got op so damn fast (that and the turbo plasma)
>>316560285
you can give armor to companions, and they appear with it
high res
you can play a long haired hippie
lots of bugfix
added finished cut content
>>316562248
instant kill crit in eyes from max range with gauss rifle
even cassidy can do it
>>316562012
I really hate bethesda
>>316558853
The Courier.
>>316562592
combat leather jacker > everything else
>>316562785
>implying his is the only highwayman left
>>316557295
>>316557451
>>316557913
>>316557994
Look at these fucking faggots. The fucking Glow, Big MT, all three Enclave Bases, The Divide, The Master's Vault and the Sierra Madris were all more dangerous than the Institute.
>>316558913
It's an exact copy of the 45-d because Bethesda is a soulless corporate husk.
>>316562554
In all fairness, Bethesda did a decent job carrying SPECIAL over. Obsidian implemented it a lot better but the majority of it was carried over. It pains me to think that just a couple of years ago, Bethesda made things that were actually RPGs. Not the best, but RPGs.
>>316562808
>Lone Wander critically missed, knocked down, his[strike]weapon[/strike] spaceship exploded and lost his next turn
>>316574281
Sounds legit to me.
>>316562986
>giving a fuck about bought licenses "canon"
headcanon is the only canon
>>316570457
pirate it
for the sake of the devs
>>316563579
BUT MUH WACKY RETRO FUTURE
>>316568582
New Vegas was /k/ as fuck, props to Obsidian for doing their best to get things back the way they should be.
How well would a maxed-out Warrior with his squad and vehicles fare against the other protagonists?
>>316583081
Very well since he has Protagonist power plus a whole squad of companions in a vehicle.
>>316571549
>>316571595
Good god, 4's new designs for pre-war stuff were fucking awful. Go look at the trains if you don't believe me.
Kind of neat that you can find the bombed out APC and a dead crewman though. More little touches like that would've helped sell the 'you're a popsicle' gimmick.
Are we taking into account the end game/after end shit like the book that pretty much turns the Chosen One into a fucking god, or just during the story?
If not, I'd choose the Courier, if so the Chosen One.
>>316560038
That's really naive. You could sum up all the protagonists in a similar way. Infiltrating the Master's base and fighting his army of Super Mutants and then fighting the Master himself is one of the greatest feats performed by a Fallout protag to date.
>>316583559
>Don't normally kill him
>Fire up NV recently
>Game actually crashes when he initiates his conversation
Well, he no longer has a head.
>>316583731
They all do some pretty mad shit. The Courier wins an actual fucking war involving two standing armies and a bunch of factions all on his own, regardless of who for.
>>316583392
They really should have just taken real world military equipment and Fallout-ised them instead of making look like some wierd comic bullshit. After all in reality when curvy cars, greasers and pop-art type stuff was all the rage the military still looked like pic related, so why wouldn't it be the same in Fallout?
>>316583837
To be fair, the courier was more of a "straw that broke the camel's back" than the whole reason why x side won the war, seeing as the tension between ncr and legion, plus mr.house and all those minor factions, was super high, but they still did a lot to get their chosen side to win regardless.
>>316556884
They all have some things that are powerful
The Vault Dweller is a power armor wearing combat monster that rips through most enemies
The Chosen One is the but a Jinxed possible cyborg that causes his enemies to kill themselves though bad luck
The Lone Wander is a power armor wearing possible cyborg combat monster with a Space ship that can blow up anything
The Courier Is a cyborg combat monster that wears Power Armor that may rule a city with a robot army and has access to hard light hologram that are unkillable and has a think tank of the brightest prewar minds the US had to offer and everything they have made
the Sole Survivor is a power armor wearing prewar vet McGyver combat monster that has some rather insane perks
I want to see them team up
>>316570467
Valentine is too based for a Bethesda game. He's also pretty good at unlocking terminals.
>>316584035
I always thought that the NCR and Legion were evenly matched at Hoover Dam, and the Courier's help is what tips the balance on way or the other for certain.
>>316584229
That's pretty much what I just said, and what's meant to be portrayed in game. They're far from weak, but being the whole reason why one side won is what they aren't.
>>316583898
This is where Bethesda fundamentally doesn't get it. They seem to think it's meant to be a realization of 50's fiction. It's not. I mean, it's certainly informed by how the 50's saw the future, but it's not meant to be a direct copy of old sci-fi. It's a fairly dystopian (even before the bombs fell) vision of a world where technology developed down different lines and the forced smile that society adopted in the decade never left.
>>316584138
>MacGyver
Oh shit. Fallout world is filled with scraps and random crap.
