>tfw listening to WoW soundtracks on youtube
Legion might be good, r-right? I played WoD for about 4 days before dropping it, but they can't keep fucking up forever... right?
Legion will be worse than WOD. Don't fall for it again.
>>316484045
>worse than WOD
theres no way possible.
>Any chance of Shamans being able to wield the Doomhammer two-handed? Even if just a cosmetic glyph for us old classic Shamans
>Not likely, the model isn't really scaled to look good with 2-hand animations. It WOULD feel old-school though! (DaveKosak)
WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT
No 2h enhancement = it's shit.
>>316484110
Thats what everyone said about cataclysm, and MoP. The cycle continues.
>>316484194
But MoP managed to be better than Cata.
Nah mane, the good times will never come back
>>316484194
But MoP was the best expansion since TBC/Wrath and still is.
They don't even need WoW anymore with hearthstone, hots, and overwatch taking over.
WoW is just a cash grab at this point
just play nostalrius, BC comes out awhile after naxx is cleared
If they keep in everything then it will literally be the best expansion yet.
>>316483889
Legion isliterally WoD 2.0
They're not moving away from their new business model.
>>316484246
The first year of Cata was better than any period of MoP
>>316483889
It looks really nice so far. I considered myself a fanboy, but even I couldn't stomach WoD.
Wow is dead, has been since mid WOTLK after they introduced fucking teleportation all over the map for battlegrounds, dungeons and raids.
>>316483889
>classes losing subspecs and other flavorful things like fistweaving
>every caster gets a rage bar now
>artifacts are legendary rings/cloaks all over again
>literally using one weapon for the entire expansion
>muh level scaling zones
>"no pvp gear" despite gear still making a difference on your stats in pvp scenarios
>5 zones
>class halls are garrisons 2.0
>reused Dalaran
yeah nah
Legion removed/casualized abilities list. Will add more as new class previews come out. Blizzard quotes and spell descriptions in green.
DK
>-Death Knight runes restricted gameplay, so there are now 6 runes, one type, don't worry about what types are off cooldown anymore.
-Shadow Infusion mechanic replaced with a generic 1 minute cooldown on Dark Transformation.
Druid
-Heart of the Wild and every other hybrid utility removed.
-Moonkin eclipse mechanic is gone, replaced with a generic generator/spender mechanic.
>The moving back and forth on the bar is going away, replaced with abilities that build and spend a resource with different strengths and weaknesses.
Hunter
>-Mastery: Sniper Training
>Critical strike damage and range of all shots is increased by 12.5% (with Mastery from typical gear).
Because having an interesting mastery was too hard, a simple passive is so much easier to understand for casuals.
>-Most Marksmanship hunters are taking the Lone Wolf talent on live, so the team decided to go ahead and remove the pet in Legion.
>-Is the frenzy / focus fire (and go for the throat/invigoration) dynamic gone for Beast Mastery as well?
>Yes. Didnt like how it felt to interact with the pet in this arbitrary fashion.
Mage
>-Combustion
>10% Mana, Instant, 2 min
>Engulf yourself in flames, increasing your critical strike chance by 100% for 10 sec.
They literally removed the entire mechanic of watching your ignite stacks. Fire rotation is pretty much static know. You know why?
>Another major change is the redesign of Combustion. It’s an incredibly complex skill, hard to understand for most people, and has the potential for either ridiculous success or critical failure, with the odds being extremely random and very hard to gauge much of the time.
-Inferno Blast no longer spreads dots. Every 2 sec, Ignites may spread to another nearby enemy automatically.
-New Arcane mastery: Increases your Mana regeneration rate and maximum Mana by 20% and damage from Arcane Charges by 10% (with Mastery from typical gear).
Because damage tied to mana level was too hard.
-Frostfire Bolt removed.
Monk
>here we focused on getting more depth out of less complexity
-Chi resource removed from Brewmaster and Mistweaver, replaced with generic cooldowns&charges
-Dizzying Haze, Guard, Expel Harm removed (hinted, not 100% certain)
-Entire fistweaving stance and mechanics removed
-Soothing Mist now automatically channels on your last healed target so you can watch TV while healing
-Tiger Palm buff gone
-Rising Sun Kick debuff gone
-Storm, earth and fire now automatically selects a target.
>Someone looks at the skill and doesn't understand how it works and decides they will figure it out later. This is bad because it is important to doing good damage as a Windwalker.
>The new Storm, Earth, and Fire is being simplified and made more intuitive. It will be a simple toggle, somewhat similar to Blade Flurry.
Paladin
-Holy Power mechanic removed from Holy and Prot, HP consumers now have cooldowns and/or charges
-(Protection)Crusader Strike removed
-(Protection)Word of Glory renamed to Light of the Protector and can no longer target other players.
-Hammer of Wrath removed.
>>316484458
>first year of cata
>better
The only good thing about early cata was harder 5 man dungeons.
BC was the only overall good expansion.
Wrath was okay at first despite the easy Naxxramus. Ulduar was fucking goat, but then they added LFG, the option to skip raid content just from doing 5 mans (this was also added in BC during the Sunwell patch too sadly), and that shitty t9 raid.
And it's been complete shit ever since.
If you couldn't play it more than 4 days its You and not WoW.
I'm not a WoW fanboy or anything, past few xpacs i've played like 2-3 months worth of them before quitting, but the start of every xpac is fun it just gets stale cuz its wow. and WoD's questing absolutely shits on anything else they've ever done with quests.
Priest
-Chakra mechanic is gone, replaced by two 1 minute cooldowns for big single target and aoe heal.
-Shadow orbs mechanic removed
-Shadow gets Voidform instead, a cooldown where your dot durations are refreshed while you 1-1-2-1-1-2 spam Mind Flay and Mind Blast for the entire duration. Truly a modern gameplay experience.
Rogue
>-The team considered getting rid of Killing Spree, but sometimes rough edges are cool. It is now a talent, so you can take it or other AoE talents.
>-Shadow Dance was pretty cool, but it is now a passive. 20% chance to re enter stealth that doesn't break from taking damage. Can figure out what you want to do, new opener, combos, finisher, repeat.
-Honor Among Thieves gone
-Bleeds and poisons are now Assassination only
-Slice and Dice is now Combat only
Shaman
-No confirmed removed abilities so far. Enhancement potentially losing ranged attacks like Shocks and Bolts.
Warrior
-Gladiator Stance gone
Warlock
-Malefic Grasp and Haunt removed
-Affliction baseline dots lowered from 3 to 2, Unstable Affliction is now a cooldown/resource spender
-Demonic Fury and Burning Embers resources removed and replaced with Soul Shards
Tanking in general
>-Active mitigation is still a big part of what you do, but it went in too strong. If you messed up the active mitigation you died, so it mattered too much.
>Active mitigation should be designed to where the expert player can get more out of it but the newer player isn't awful. It is less about managing your resources and more about using the right button at the right time and the magnitude of the effects are going down a little bit. It is still a very large part of what tanks do.
>Resolve is gone.
>>316485307
>-Heart of the Wild and every other hybrid utility removed.
That's because they made it a passive you retard
>>316485404
>The only good thing about early cata was harder 5 man dungeons.
And the zones, and the first raid tier, and the 1-60 rework.
>>316485482
I see you lapped right up the "YOU HAVE HYBRID OFFSPECS FULL TIME PASSIVE NOW!" bullshit that blizzard said.
Did you even read the "offspecs" that they are implementing?
Balance Affinity
Astral Influence: Increases the range of all spells, abilities, and autoattacks by 5 yds.
Feral Affinity
Feline Swiftness: Increases movement speed by 15%.
Guardian Affinity
Thick Hide: Reduces all damage taken by 10%.
Restoration Affinity
Ysera’s Gift: Constantly heals the Druid, or allies when the Druid is at full health.
WOW 15% MORE MOVEMENT SPEED IS SO GOING TO MAKE YOU A FERAL HYBRID MAN
>>316485457
>Priest
>-Chakra mechanic is gone
What the fuck? That shit was actually fun.
>>316485647
That's just the passive it gives you to buff your primary spec. The affinity will give you other things to fill the role you choose but they either haven't decided what yet or thought it would be too long to put in a preview.
If you want the game to be more on the RPG side like back in vanilla or tbc then don't bother. Their design is completely different now, more geared toward action than rpg. Just wait for Corecraft.
>>316485307
-Shadow Infusion mechanic replaced with a generic 1 minute cooldown on Dark Transformation.
why?
>>316486169
>WoW
>Action
Pick one
>>316486492
The mechanic was too hard to understand for casuals.
>>316486492
>restricted gameplay
>incredibly complex skill
>hard to understand for most people
>we focused on getting more depth out of less complexity
>made more intuitive
>All these stealth marketing threads
I don't care though I like WoW threads.
>>316484139
This.
Will we finally see N´zoth?
What do you think he will look like?
>>316486525
Yeah it's not a very good action game but they've definitely been cutting down on the RPG elements and adding more Action game elements in the game.
>>316484346
I read somewhere that the wow booths were like the least popular ones at Blizzcon. Everyone was in line to play Overwatch.
>>316483889
>>316484045
WoD was a stop gap for Legion. Legion has been in development since SoO.
Its closer than you think. Beta begins at the end of this month to finish by mid February. Release window is May 2016.
>>316485647
The description literally said it would also give you many skills of that form, and their twitter stated if you chose Guardian affinity you could offtank in bear form. Checkers.
>>316487258
>WoD was a stop gap for Legion
People said that about MoP too.
>>316487258
But isn't the release up for september 21st? Atleast that's what it says if you preorder.
Or is it a placeholder for the worst case scenario release?
>>316485591
>The 1-60 rework
>every zone is a linear memefest
Yeah. Great changes. But at least we got Welcome to the Machine.
>>316484194
It's not a cycle if it gets worse each time you uneducated dumb fuck.
>>316489630
It's easy to forget how incredibly tedious 1-60 questing was before the rework. Go and quest in Silithus to remind yourself, they left it practically untouched.
It is true though that levelling was too fast after the rework, and even if you didn't do dungeons at all you would still be overleveled by the end of most zones.
I dont care what you guys think, MoP until the SoO's last months was the best era of second generation of WoW.
>>316489962
>Go and quest in Silithus to remind yourself, they left it practically untouched.
I still enjoy Silithus with it's whopping 20 quests total in the zone. The place just looks so nice.
>>316490139
>shit 5-mans
>boring levelling zones
>class changes mostly sucked
>even more casualization across the board
>endless daily quests make up 90% of end game content
nope, MoP sucked dick
