Choose your character
TF2, because it's free and not made by talent-less hacks.
The one that isn't overdesigned crap
>>316445942
Reaper, obv.
>>316446691
>Neo-Valve
>Not talentless hacks
>>316446926
Woah you really showed me.
>>316446691
>Not made by talent-less hacks
>Last major update was giving guns skins
>Skins you have to pay for
Is being made by jews really better?
>>316446691
tf2 isn't a character
I'd pick the cowboy but he has like 4 voicelines and he plays them on loop.
>>316447071
None of that affects the gameplay. Blizzard is going to sell heroes after making you buy the game.
>>316447281
There's absolutely 0 evidence for that. Whereas everything that's been said about TF2...
>>316447404
Blizzard dodging the question says it all.
>>316445942
pharah is mai waifu
plus i'm not good at cs shit, jetting around with pharah and her rocket launcher is basically playing unreal tournament
>>316447281
Yeah, if you buy the cheapest version. Pay $60 like you do every other game and you get all of them.
Have you tried not being poor?
>>316447281
Not him but
>not even confirmed
>only thing they're selling is character skins and possibility of adding new heroes in the future not as paid
Good try, but I guess valve making paid game modes on owners that paid before means nothing.
>P2w items in tf2
>>316447472
Have you tried growing a brain? Titanfall and Evolve have shown that this model doesn't work and this game is going to die faster than it would if it were F2P like TF2 with cosmetic only microtransactions.
But because Blizzard are cowards they will hide behind money because they know they can't make an actually good game to save their lives. Look at Twitch and tell me people give a fuck about anything that isn't Hearthshit.
>>316447572
What the fuck is P2W in TF2?
>>316447404
>There's absolutely 0 evidence for that
There is 100% evidence for that.
Every time someone asks the question, their response is "There is no plan for a hero store at launch."
Every single fucking time they qualify it by saying "At launch".
Shit's coming.
>>316447647
>Twitch now defines what is popular
People still play Starcraft AND it's streamed
And Diablo and it even has a console port now
WoW hasn't gone F2P yet because guess what? It isn't shit
They can't hide behind money if they don't have it. Which they do because people actually buy their shit.
>>316447742
>new free player has no unlocks
>new paid player has more unlocks
Ergo P2W
>Blizzard
I'll wait for Gigantic or Battleborn and continue playing Halo.
>>316447951
WoW hasn't gone F2P yet because Blizzdrones have massive stockholm syndrome. 5 million people dropped the game in the past couple months alone. They aren't even reporting sub numbers anymore. Not only is it shit, but it's shit being wringed out of all the money it can get before finally being tossed out.
The only reason they have money is because they tapped into the shitty normie app market with Hearthstone, which people are starting to leave because Blizzard destroys everything it touches. Turning gold into shit in an instant.
>>316447973
Pay to look pretty isn't P2W you dense retard.
>>316448223
>Pay to look pretty isn't P2W you dense retard.
But you unlock new and better weapons.
A new premium player gets it instantly.
A new free player needs to grind it.
Now who's the retard, retard
>>316445942
Uninstall wizard
>>316448294
Did you forget trading exists and crafting exists? Also the new weapons are shit.
Reaper/Roadhog depending on lineup.
>>316448360
>Did you forget trading exists and crafting exists?
You start with nothing to trade or nothing to craft with.
The person who paid more money has greater advantage.
You can't possibly say that a Heavy without a Sandvich is on the same playing field as one who does.
Same with Spy without Ambassador.
>>316448223
>Implying shooter games aren't for normies
>Overwatch is a shooter
>AND going to be on console
Regardless of HOW they're making money, they're making money and if you think they're making a majority of it off fucking Hearthstone, you really are retarded.
![Reaper_Overwatch_003[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HBDlE29.jpg "Reaper_Overwatch_003[1].jpg")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kTBbTSjZpI
>>316448498
That just sounds like entitlement. Also sandvich and Ambassador are overrated. Vanilla loadout is the best loadout. Worked then, it works now.
>>316448505
Because it worked so well for Titanfall right?
>>316448602
Why does Reaper have shells on his body when he just tosses the guns and magically gets new ones?
>>316448667
Titanfall wasn't developed by a company that has millions of fans waiting to eat up every drop of what they shit out
>>316448667
>That just sounds like entitlement. Also sandvich and Ambassador are overrated. Vanilla loadout is the best loadout. Worked then, it works now.
Just keep to the objective facts, bro.
You cannot say that TF2 is 100% not P2W, when paying money gives two otherwise equal players an advantage.
Yeah, vanilla loadouts are good, but that doesn't mean there is 0 advantage to having all the weapons available
>>316448843
Blizzard doesn't either anymore. They burned that bridge a long time anymore.
Not even normies care for them anymore.
>>316448667
No but it's working for Destiny.
It worked for TF2 when it was on The Orange Box
And the only example you keep giving is Titanfall, have you ever played anything else in your life or is Titanfall, the one notable failure it?
Name two dead Blizzard games. And I mean dead. No more advertising, no ports and you probably can't find it on a shelf as easily anymore. Like Titanfall!
>>316448843
>a company that has millions of fans waiting to eat up every drop of what they shit out
Then why is Heroes of the Storm barely having 1000 viewers on Twitch?
>>316448162
>Gigantic
Is this still Win 10 exclusive? Because that's a deal breaker to me. I LOVE the look of the game, I really do, but I'm not getting Windows 10 for it.
>>316445942
Oh wow haha what new moba is this??
>>316448878
Well then I guess It's just fucked then. It doesn't matter anyway because Dota 2 is their most successful game now and it actually IS F2P with cosmetics only.
>>316448983
League of Legends 2
>>316448941
Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, HotS. Their 3 biggest failures.
Nobody plays them, nobody cares. People bought into the hype and got jewed. Just like Fallout 4 is doing right now. Only Fallout 4 is more of a game than anything Blizzard has made in the past decade.
>>316448602
Why are stupidly edgy characters always the best?
![hanzo_by_yy6242-d85nw4o[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hDPHBXG.png "hanzo_by_yy6242-d85nw4o[1].png")
QUICK /v/
CLAIM YOUR OVERWATCHBANDU BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE STEALS HIM
>>316448294
By your logic cod battlefield and nearly every game with a leveling system is p2w
>>316448917
When literally every normie i know still jumps on blizzards cock every chance they get, no they haven't burned that bridge.
>>316448964
Why is twitch your go to argument on why something isn't popular?
Accoding to you WoT, GW2, USF4, BF4, GW2, they are all apparently dead.
>>316448667
>sandvich is overrated
>>316449105
>Diablo 3
>HotS
>Dead
Funny guy.
>>316449105
>>316449105
Wow really? Because Diablo 3 is still doing pretty good and Starcraft 2 just came out with an expansion and people are eating up HoTS because it's LoL but with Blizzard lore characters
Now you're just shilling for the sake of it. Glad we could have this chat, friend
>>316449238
Can you pay money to have maximum unlocks?
If yes, then it is P2W in a small degree.
There's a god damned spectrum.
If there is ANY way to pay money for ANY amount of advantage, then it is P2W by definition.
Even if paying a small fee made your guns shoot 0.000001% more damage, it is still P2W.
Not very much, but it is still categorically P2W
You people having extra chromosomes when it comes down to talking about buzzwords.
i got memed on by a thrall repeatedly today in HoTS
>>316445942
If offence is needed (as if that ever happens): Tracer
If defence is needed: D.va
If support is needed Mercy
So I'll probably play Mercy 24/7
>>316449105
are you even trying anymore anon
Im not even simpson poster guy but holy shit just stop
>>316449238
>>316449238
Advanced Warfare did let you buy gun crates that guaranteed at least one better than average gun
>>316449360
>>316449453
>>316449614
Prove these games are alive, prove people give a shit about them. You can't.
Not even Twitch cares.
>>316448667
>That just sounds like entitlement. Also sandvich and Ambassador are overrated. Vanilla loadout is the best loadout. Worked then, it works now.
Oh come on now, faggot. The same argument could be used for Legal Legends and you know it.
TF2 is much more p2w now than it was before. I still remember quitting for a few years when mann co. crates first hit the game and no one believed me it would just be skins only.
>>316449248
>Accoding to you WoT, GW2, USF4, BF4, GW2, they are all apparently dead.
Dude, don't be retarded. You're just wasting everyone's time.
Twitch is a good measure of what's popular and what's not.
It's about relative popularity, not absolute popularity.
A game with more Twitch views is generally more popular than one that has fewer.
It's not a rigid set in stone rule.
"Buh buh but this game has no views and it's still played by millions".
No. Stop that. It's not a rule.
It's just useful to judge relative popularity.
So, comparing the four big Dotaclones on the market now, LoL, Dota2, Smite, and HotS, it is obvious that HotS is the least successful despite Blizzard backing.
>>316445942
>find out today that release date is ~7 months from now
what the fuck
wouldn't hype die down before then?
>>316449707
>>316449707
You're really a dirty slut for these (You)s and my simpsons images, anon. None of us even have to prove shit, just because Twitch doesn't care doesn't mean no one cares. The fact they're still actively sold, stocked, restocked and bothering to come out with new content is proof enough they're alive
>>316449707
>twitch views meme
>>316449852
Nigga, how you are that illiterate and still able to figure out how to post here?
There is no release date yet.
There is only a release by date.
That means it will be released BEFORE that date.
We have on idea when that is.
Read, nigga, read.
>>316445942
the one that can teleport behind you
Have you met my fiancee, /v/?
Her name is Hana Song and we're set to be married in Spring of next year.
>>316449804
HotS is also the newest kid on the block in an already saturated market. I can see it overtaking Smite if Blizzard keeps pumping money into it.
>>316450046
It's not and you can't actually prove these games aren't dead.
Valve actually supplies Steam stats because they aren't shifty kikes.
>>316450121
HotS is the newest kid on the block who urinates himself frequently. Just because he was rich parents doesn't mean anybody wants to associate themselves with him.
>>316449804
>Twitch is a good measure of what's popular and what's not.
Oh god no, its awful for that. Maybe for the top 5 watched games sure, but anything below that is ridiculous.
>It's not a rigid set in stone rule.
Then why the fuck do you, and so many others, decide to use it as the be all end all.
>LoL, Dota2, Smite, and HotS
Blizzard came into an already oversaturated genre with god knows how many clones, and still managed to pull through as one of the better games in it, I say they managed pretty well.
Why can't we like Overwatch AND TF2?
>>316448498
>Same with Spy without Ambassador.
What? The spy without a complete downgrade is at a disadvantage?
>>316450347
>Then why the fuck do you, and so many others, decide to use it as the be all end all.
Because people without autism can live with things being flexible.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
We can use our judgement to tell the difference.
Regular humans aren't beep boop robots insert stimulus output response beep boop.
For related games, of similar genre or player base, Twitch viewership does help give relative popularity.
>>316450146
Oh boy, steam stats they can alter all they want, sure seems like a reliable source.
>>316450408
because you're either with someone or against someone on /v/
>>316450526
>>316450562
Not every company is like Riot
Diva a best.
>>316451014
Too bad her damage is like 1/(how cute she is)
>tfw wanna try it out but blizzard is being jewish even with beta test invites
What's the reasoning anyways? Barely anyone talks about it.
>>316450252
That kind of describes DotA2 to be honest family.
Without Valve pumping hundreds of millions into the game and getting people to build the prizepool for them, I don't think DotA would be even near LoL.
>>316451309
Blizzard didn't even go full jew about beta tests. If you preorder you don't get access to testing.
>>316451309
If you've played any Blizzard Beta, you'd know they don't give a shit.
I think that fag sodapoppin didn't even get in despite shilling WoW for years.
>>316445942
The uninstall wizard. He grants sweet freedom.
>>316450696
Also yes, this.
>>316451372
>That kind of describes DotA2 to be honest family.
>Dota is the newest kid on the block who urinates himself frequently.
Now why would you bait like that.
I want to play the video game but I don't have access to beta :(
>>316449219
Reaper is just a black man with black problems.
>>316451779
>look up gameplay videos for some characters
>all of them have obnoxious faggots talking over
Why the fuck can't someone upload long gameplay videos without commentary.
>>316451908
not really a big deal.
you can mute the audio , you won't lose anything valuable.
character lines get old extremly fast. hope you can mod that shit.
>>316451734
DotA2 was the newest kid on the block after LoL and HoN though?
>>316452353
Dota 2, the direct conversion of DotA to a new engine, had a huge, established fanbase.
Seriously what is this idiotic shit. Plenty of DotA players could object to the gameplay changes LoL and HoN made, but very few of them would object to the game being remade on a decent engine.
I can see Lucio, Tracer and Hanzo taking up a lot of my playtime, but D.Va fucking came out of nowhere with that sweet mech so I'll have to see how she plays.
>>316445942
>Beta out for weeks
>No ripped models
>No SFM
Why are Blizzard fans so fucking terrible?
>>316452765
>had a huge, established fanbase.
Is that why it was vastly less popular than the original DotA until Valve started pumping money into the prize pool?
I don't understand why this is so difficult for you:
DotA2 came into the scene and floundered until Valve pumped money into it.
HotS came into the scene is floundering as Blizzard begins pumping money into it.
Wascot when?
>>316454186
>Is that why it was vastly less popular than the original DotA until Valve started pumping money into the prize pool?
Yeah, clearly the limited nature of the closed beta and the fact that not all the content was ported yet had nothing to do with that.
titties
>>316454186
Next you'll claim that CS GO floundered until Valve pumped money into it.
Fans of DotA and CS1.6 simply waited for the new ports to have amidst content / have less bugs.
When that happened they moved in droves to their new home.
Are you implying that this is the case with HotS? Because you're very mistaken if you do think so.
>>316453918
I know that feel brother.
My dick awaits those models.
Widowmaker is cute CUTE!
>>316449228
How is he gonna load the arrow if it's not notched in
Going to play Winston/Roadhog pretty much exclusively
>>316454308
Hopefully never because that game was garbage.
>>316446691
Do you remember when TF2 wasn't free, anon?
space egyptian is the best girl desu
>>316445942
Roadhog, man
hooks and healing
Not sure if I'm going to buy it, but the buddhist monk robot looks pretty baller. I'd probably play him.
>>316445942
McCree, Widowmaker, Soldier 76 or Pharah
>>316445942
The two brown waifus
