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What the fuck, Bethesda?
The pipe weapons have killed my enjoyment of this game. Literally all there is and ammo for everything else is too scarce to use the few that aren't. Just why? What sense do they make? They didn't exist in any other game in the series, not even the one that this is almost a direct copy and paste of.
>>316399794
Sounds like somebody didnt get the Scrounger perk.
Use what the game offers you. I bet you dont even use chems even when you're having trouble.
>>316400248
>mfw addicted to chems
Where do I remove this shit
>>316399263
I like it. It fits the aesthetic and looks like a Lewis Gun.
There are still military looking guns in FO4 though, right?
>>316399794
I have plenty of non pipe weapons, what's your problem?
>They didn't exist in any other game in the series
Fallout 2 had pipe guns.
>>316399794
Yeah it really doesn't feel enjoyable at all until you get lucky and stumble across a Short Hunting Rifle and then mod it with a long barrel, scope etc.
Honestly the only weapons that feel decent are the 10mm, Combat Shotgun and Hunting Rifle. I haven't found an Assault Rifle yet but it looks so fucking dumb that I don't really want to.
>>316400619
>There are still military looking guns in FO4 though, right?
oh you poor thing
>>316400619
Yes, and you can mod every weapon to look pretty much however you want. I found a sawn off hunting rifle (yeah, retarded) and modded it to a regular looking rifle, then a sniper rifle.
>>316399794
Fallout 2 had pipe weapons you vegasbaby
and they are just "thrown together" weapons anyways so naturlaly they are common.
I like them, they look propa orky and are highly moddable
What is it's function?
>>316400725
>>316401225
Fallout 2 had one fucking pipe rifle, which was made completely obsolete once you found 10mm pistol since it had the same damage but held only one shot. And you could find said 10mm in Klamath rat caves IIRC.
Mod to replace the Assault Rifle with pic related when?
I miss the chinese assault rifle :.(
>>316401225
Fallout 4 takes place like, 45 years later than Fallout 2.
Also, compare the weapon variety in both games and CTRL+F "pipe" while you're at it.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_weapons
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_weapons
>>316401603
To look quirky and steampunk.
>>316401719
At least get an AR-10 or something.
>>316401603
gas port to cycle the action
>>316400619
>1950s aesthetic
>Lewis Gun
>>316402194
I've been wondering, when does F4 take place in the series?
>>316402340
But Fallout is retro-futurism. Did anyone tell Bethseda?
>NPCs don't have a BAHSTAHN AHKSENT
>there's no Irish people either
>>316402669
It doesn't!
>>316400608
Doctor's or Addictol, Addictol looks like an inhaler, and it's expensive as fuck to buy, there's 2 in the place you -actual spoiler-find the guy that shot your wife, it's a factory you go to with valentine
>>316402686
FO1 and 2 aren't canon anymore, so they can do whatever they want.
>>316401225
>so naturlaly they are common.
no, since the game is in America it's actually easier to find regular weapons than making your own.
Peopled called out Bethesda because they couldn't make guns worth a shit. The devs probably just ended up making bullshit looking weapons so they can use a "people in the FO universe are stupid, of course the guns look unrealistic and shitty looking" excuse if they get called out again.
I guarantee military themed weapons are going to be DLC.
How did we go from THIS...
>>316400608
radscorpion food recipe
>>316403040
Instead of making old stuff non-canon, why not just consider the new stuff to be in an alternate continuity?
Can we take a moment to talk about adhesive indices?
I suggest buying up stock in adhesive in case the cap market crashes.
>>316402669
Six years after New Vegas
Is there anyway to exchange ammo or some shit, I have literally 1800 rounds of .38 and almost nothign with anything else, I hav elike 270 10mm and 180 ec.
>>316403272
There is a combat shotty, and it rapes ass hard, witha large mag it has 32 shots and does 78 dmg with the "Powerful" mod and a longbarrel
>>316403272
Did the owner put catnip on that thing?
>>316401225
>and they are just "thrown together" weapons anyways so naturlaly they are common.
I think the point of real world weapons being commonplace in Fallout 1 and 2 is completely lost on someone like you who thinks the series is some ebin Mad Max/Borderlands post-apocalypse ordeal, for fuck's sake man, they use bottle caps as currency, how dense are you?
>>316399794
I have over 8>>316403680
00 .45 bullets for my combat rifle
[Spoiler]Cleared vault 114 to save Nick Valentine
>>316400619
I've modded a hunting rifle to look like an old military rifle complete with a musket. Couple it with the Navy Cap and you look like old war military.
>>316403584
Bottle caps as currency make no fucking sense
But I find it funny
>>316399263
It'd be fine if it wasn't for that barrel. Looks like they started with an M249 and added stupid shit to it.
>>316400619
If you count the Thompson and SMLE as "military looking rifles," then there are some.
>>316401038
>obrez
>Retarded
some faggots I swear
>>316403272
Apparently bethesda at least fixed that one.
>>316403942
>he doesn't know
>>316403942
It was Nuka Cola caps specifically according to Fallout lore, they have a specific shape which made them difficult to counterfeit and were backed by water in the old games.
>>316403958
>"knows nothing about guns"
>actually makes decent looking homemade guns
>>316403942
>Bottle caps as currency make no fucking sense
For Fallout 3 and 4 I completely agree, try playing 1, 2 and New Vegas, maybe you'll understand the point.
>>316404387
I'm economically retarded, what does backed by water mean?
I know that it's the equivalent of being backed by gold, but I hardly even have a grasp on that.
>>316403942
Yeah, it doesn't make sense but its one of the quirky things about the series, and I honestly like it.
I really like how New Vegas handled currency, with the NCR trying to go back to pre-war paper money and Caesar using old Roman style coins. Great system, great lore.
>>316399263
"We want the steampunk audience"
So whats the melee weapons like, and is there a hardcore mode?
>>316404387
>difficult to counterfeit
So who is making new caps in case they get lost or something? Hell there are some weapons that use caps like mines.
>backed by water
Backing your currency with a consumable good seems like a bad move
>>316404690
*Dieselpunk
>>316403958
>knows nothing about guns
>somehow able to cobble together revolvers and belt fed rifles
>>316403532
isn't that the same?
>>316401603
The gas pipe to cycle.
>>316404671
It's basically the idea that the money is a token for something of practical value; gold is deemed precious and so gold backed money means you're currency 'guarantees' you a proportional amount of gold.
With the NCR their currency went from water backed caps (same as above but water was more valuable in the wasteland) to gold backed notes until the Brotherhood sabotaged their gold supply. Now the caps are like our currency, not backed with anything other than the promise of being able to buy something of equal worth to the currency.
>>316399263
If you played Valkyria Chronicles you'd know for sure that gun was designed by Gallians.
I guess Todd played VC when it came out on Steam?
>>316401038
/k/ would like a word with you..
>>316404824
Melee doesn't work.
No.
>>316404550
those welds are really really ugly
>>316404550
He's not actually gonna try and fire that is he? It looks like it would explode the moment he pulled the trigger.
>>316404671
Wasteland was a barter economy and there was one thing you could always barter with, water. As civilization started to rebuild trade increased and carrying all that water became impractical so a solution of one bottle cap for one bottle of water iirc.
>>316405154
Doesnt work how?
Bugged, or not in the game?
>>316405137
it's retarded though
you need to drink water, not hoard it
if anything you'd treat the bottlecaps like gold because they're fairly rare and write notes backed by them
>>316405137
>It's basically the idea that the money is a token for something of practical value; gold is deemed precious and so gold backed money means you're currency 'guarantees' you a proportional amount of gold.
Okay, but do we ever exchange what the tokens represent?
>>316405137
Imagine having an obsidian made fallout game centreing on the collapse of the now huge NCR because to an economic crash due to unbacked currency. That would be fucking brilliant.
>>316405391
It's just really weak, especially early game.
I mean I GUESS it makes sense, ranged weapons are obviously better than melee weapons, but Bethesda goofd
>>316405391
EVERY melee weapon is a spear
they break in one hit... and you have to constantly repair
you need power armor in order to carry enough to maintain spear use
>>316405393
That's a step too far to seem like a practical idea.
>physical capacity
>rare/essential resource
>currency
You're suggesting
>physical capacity
>resource
>rare object
>currency
>>316405554
Ignore the double post, 4chan is behaving particularly shitty tonight
>>316405393
Yes but you also need to eat and have clothes and shelter, so before currency, survivors bartered using water to trade for things like food, shelter, clothes. Then they used caps (easier to store than water) backed by water as a currency.
>>316403958
>who knows nothing about guns
At least Bethesda is honest with themselves
>>316405064
It sort of is but that idiot suggesting it doesn't realize that nobody would give a flying fuck about the new thing if the new thing was already deemed non cannon. It's like being told from the start it was all a dream, there's no fun to be had.
>>316405628
So like 3, then?
Fuck it, there'll be mods.
>>316405628
Nigger, I've been punching fools with my unique power fist for hours and it hits harder than any gun, on top of staggering.
>>316405452
You can if you want to and in certain situations it's a good idea. For example, if an economic crash is coming, exchanging money for gold, while the money is still worth something is a decent idea, however, due to globalization, it's also a safe idea to invest in expensive currencies before yours drops in value, if you have a lot of insider knowledge and can project this, you can essentially profit from any fluctuation via gold/currency shuffling.
>>316405452
No
Not in practice (that's part of why that system is obsolete)
>>316405452
It's not so literal, and relies on a central body managing it. They might not have the amount of gold equal to all the currency it backs, but the central body is assumed to have enough wealth to pay the debts of the currency it distributes. Think the Bank of England for example.
Just as how you couldn't go into a bank and ask for £5 in gold, you couldn't go to the NCR and ask for water for their paper notes. It's more the idea that the central body is acknowledging a proportion of that wealth is yours, and you trade your share with the trade of the note/coin/cap
>>316403958
>foregrips
why did they cut those out?
>>316404671
in the gold standard system, basically, money is paper that has an equivalent amount in gold in the bank (and in theory you could go to a bank and withdraw that amount of gold, I guess). Plenty of banks still back up their currency with a supply of something, though it's not required any longer, of course.
The bank prints the notes and depending on how many notes exist, they're worth a fraction of the gold in the bank.
It's basically an IOU for gold.
In fallout its an IOU for water, since clean water is a valuable (and I guess stable?) commodity
Is there a bank in fallout though? That actually holds the water that the caps are supposed to be representative of?
Water seems like a bad idea, I know its rare but fuck, if you find a clean source its like finding a well of gold that mines itself.
Can't vaults with water chips effectively print money?
>>316400619
>it fits the aesthetic
nah, pic related would've fit the 1950's/early 60's aesthetic. It looked space age back then, and it looks space age now. The "assault rifle" in Fo4 fits a faggy steampunk World War 1 aesthetic.
>>316406040
So the punchy weapons are good, then?
Is it most of them decent, or just specific ones?
>>316405452
you could in theory, but it's pointless since you'd only get a small lump of gold equivalent to your money, which would be hard to transport and trade. It's easier to just have a bunch of paper that represents the gold, and the bank that provides the paper guarantees that the gold exists and is worth what it says.
>>316404847
New caps are still minted out west. I don't even know why they're the established currency in the east
>>316406506
Water is hard to transport, there is little to no water infrastructure. Caps, in the lore, are used because they are finite, hard to counterfeit and easy to transport. Outside of the lore, it's a commentary on consumerism and the deification of brands.
>super mutants in power armor
>>316399263
war has changed senpai
>>316406506
Water traders in the hub in Fallout could be the central bank sort of.
>>316401603
that's the gas tube. when a round is fired, gas is pushed through that tube in order to push the bolt carrier back. it's a staple of automatic weapons
>>316399207
>>316399263
Better than fallout 2 having G11s and shit
>>316406893
DON'T YOU FUCKING SAY THAT YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>316406812
That makes sense. I mean, its a bit retarded in actual practice but from a literary standpoint it seems like a pretty clever thing to do, especially the way they built on it in New Vegas.
>>316404824
There is a Survival mode where you don't regen health as much from things. Not sure what else it does.
>>316405092
>>316402382
can't be a gas tube, it's way too exposed and if it were one the gas would flow straight into the handguard and not cycle any action, Bethesda artists just don't know anything about guns. This is the Fo$ equivalent to 3's Combat Shotgun
>>316406028
He's wrong though, he's just an idiot who didn't read what perks do.
There is a perk that almost nullifies damage while you are sprinting for example.
Melee weapons are strong as hell.
>>316407080
Resources probably come in smaller quantities too
>>316406994
Fallout 3 made no claims that pre war america was '50's america' though, and remember they have power armour aswell which is more implausable.
>>316407008
That theme is also the reason why real world weapons are part of the setting, brands, products etc. Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas are the best examples of economics fiction of the past two decades.
>>316407116
Is the only problem with 3's Combat Shotgun the fact that the drum is too far forward?
>>316407116
Is it not just part of the cooling system? Maybe it's a pump to cycle coolant around the cooling jacket.
I mean, as opposed to water, it could use some future shit, like radiation, to cool the barrel, so you don't have to piss in it every 10 seconds like an actual water cooled machinegun
>>316406506
Keep in mind water was rare before the NCR established trade routes and the Capital Wasteland had the purifier running, and still is outside of these territories. It seems purifiers are common in the Commonwealth by the time FO4 takes place.
What that means is that water was only common after the NCR used a gold standard, so the water was valuable when it was backing the caps.
>>316402686
Bethesda's Fallout is, if anything, more retro-futuristic than Black Isle's Fallout. The only really retro-futuristic part of Fallout 1 or 2 were the vaults, the intro cinematics, and maybe the power armour and some of the energy weapons. Everything else had this grungy, over-the-top look, like a lot of the games of the 90s.
90% of Fallout 1 and 2 only looked like it might have been retro-futuristic once, decades ago, if you squinted.
>>316407353
There's also no ejection port or charging handle.
Can someone post a pic of the FO4 combat shotgun? I want to see if they fixed those problems.
>>316399263
Oh so is that a Side loaded mag?
Look dude the FG42 and Sten were cool back in the day but come on
>>316407164
And theres more than spears, right?
I'ma gon be sad without my hammah and shiskebab.
>>316407476
that makes sense, it also kind of makes a lot of sense that they'd use a sketch standard since they just need to get an economy together, and that's the most valuable commodity to hand. Even if it is very consumable and hard to manage, I forget that they're just trying to scramble a civilization together sometimes.
Lee Enfield No. 4 SMLE
Is it in game?
The only rifle that matters.
>>316407604
What if the shell stays inside, and goes back into the drum? It could be some crazy revolver mechanism
>>316403942
Bottle caps are easy to carry but hard to make, are light and easily divisible, are uniform in their construction and hardy enough to be recognizable after years of handling, and don't have any inherent value that would tempt people to take them out of circulation. What would you use?
>>316407752
of course there is
>>316407353
>has drum magazine but still features loading tube like structure
>magazine is in front of the forward hand position, making the weapons EXTREMELY front heavy, especially considering most of it's metal part volume is on the front
>chamber/receiver assembly has no way to feed from the magazine
>trigger guard is so long that there is no space for the hand behind it
>port is directly above the trigger
>front sight is higher than rear sight
Pretty sure I'm also missing something.
>>316407229
I think its that fallout takes place in a world where the transistor was never invented, and everything just kept running on vacuum tubes and shit, so the military tech kept improving, but civilian technology and culture stayed largly the same.
>>316405154
>Melee doesn't work.
Are you that whiny bitch that started a thread and got called out for your incompetence yesterday?
>>316407754
That's exactly it. Common thing of finite amount and good durability? Bottle caps. Something worth trading for to back it? Water. First two things to hand, and it did the job for a while.
>>316407361
or it's just stupid design and trying to justify it is even more stupid by saying there's stupid stuff enabling the stupid design to not be stupid by stupid things like RADIATION COOLED GUNS
>>316408196
I meant to say fallout 2, not 3 sorry. Still, even in that world having G11's is stil plausable.
>>316408070
I might just get this game after all.
Are there any pipe shotguns?
>>316405393
The real nonsensical part is there's no way to control bottlecaps as a currency. If some guy finds a stockpile of untouched sodas he gets a bunch of free drinks and brings a bunch of unaccounted legal tender into the system.
Gun Nut level 2 mods for the hunting rifle
>>316408898
>mods are actual mods
>not:
>you either
>kill your son
>or nuke
>the commonwealth
>>316408898
>Those shitty graphics
>from a steam screenshot
For what purpose?
>>316408898
Looks alright, but 69 damage seems pretty low.
>>316409189
69 is only low if you get paid for it.
>>316408593
Interestingly enough, pretty much exactly that can happen in Fallout 1 - in one random encounter, you find an overturned truck full of bottlecaps. Depending on your character build, you could find enough to never have to worry about money again.
Remember that (in the west, at least) bottlecaps were only used in areas without much infrastructural (re)development. In Fallout 1, no one really had the means to start printing currency, and New Vegas takes place in a no man's land where no one's currency is really trusted. In Fallout 2, everyone uses NCR-made coins (and the NCR haven't even taken over everything yet!).
>>316406582
fallout's 50's isn't our 50's
they had robots, vaults and nuclear cars.
I'm glad the guns are a bit different.
>>316408898
So uh, why does a rifle suddenly does more damage vs. specific enemy types? Just a generic RPG thing?
>>316407116
The recoil spring isn't in line with the barrel, it's in the handguard. The only problem is Bethesda took a gun design that's already gas operated and added a giant tube to make it look more gas operated.
>>316409347
Fallout 1 is like barter/pre currency where people would use gold instead of goods to barter.
Fallout 2 is like Roman empire era, where basically everyone accepted Roman currency
Fallout New Vegas is like early/pre industrial where people basically new the value of each currency (franks, pounds, livres) and would transact in any of them.
This game really needs an UI mod fast, like sonic fast
>>316409291
Nice.
>>316402802
Some of the guards have a wicked pissa accent, and cait is irish
>>316409560
It's an enchanted gun that's dropped from legendary enemies.
>>316407116
Looking at that now, its a terrible design, even for someone without a lot if firearm knowledge. The gun is long as all hell and would be extremely front heavy. That stock is terrible, it provides a terrible cheek weld. Side fed magazine, if it feeds from a magazine at all why does it have a massive cooling jacket? Those sights are tall as fuck, they should be much lower. It looks very unwieldy, I can't even pass that off as its just made from scrape, a lot of it looks like the parts were specifically designed to be retarded.
Fuck man, they could've just used simple guns and looked up actually home made firearms instead they make this shit. Guns were a very well understood and developed tech in the 50s
What are some good mods for newvegas, I want some more fallout but this isn't cutting it
>>316409347
NV was so good.
Why didn't Bethesda learn anything from it??
>>316406875
I seriously hope they won't do this
Frank Horrigan was enough
That's why he's awesome, he's the only one
>>316404227
>tfw can't 1 hand the Obrez
While we are on the subject of Fallout 4... can anyone tell me if The Pitt is mentioned in any capacity? Just curious, seeing as its the Northeast still and all.
>>316409812
Bethesda HATED obsidian and New Vegas because they shat out a far superior game in like a year and with a budget of 12 dollars and a stick of gum.
>>316405145
Eldin?
>>316405676
>spears
>bethesda game
nice try
>>316409812
Because that would be acknowledging that Obsidian did things better than them, so they looked to FO3 instead and ''improved'' on it.
>>316405061
>"Sole Survivor is a retired army veteran..."
The wife however....
>No semi automatic rifle
>only fucking bolt action hunting rifle
>closest is Laser rifle
>tfw no gunfu
Mods when
>>316406506
Water merchants basically dominated trade in Fallout 1. They controlled the primary supply of pure water and had various towers and resivoirs to hold them
>>316405628
I'm downing shit easily with a Modded Baseball-bat, and there's still one more damage mod above the one I'm using.
>>316409812
To be fair to them, Skyrim is one of the most sold games, up there with Minecraft and GTA V. It only makes sense for Bethesda to try and apply the same formula to fallout.
>>316409750
Oooh, an enchanted gun! That makes a lot of sense.
>>316409528
Fallout 50's is very close to ours. It's just everything after that gets janky
>>316410128
BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
*CLICK*
BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
>>316409978
Obsidians gonna obsid.
>>316399207
>>316399263
Starting guns are literally rusty and ruined. Their colour is like diarrhea shit. It doesn't even look like rust. It's in such poor taste.
The guns look like bad mods, it's seriously bad.
>>316400619
>military looking guns
yeah if you get your crafting stats high enough to change every component
>>316410128
why the fuck are you faggots crying about fo4 not having realistic gun design? what the actual fuck? go play STALKER. or is that too hard for you?
>>316409812
New Vegas didn't sell as well as 3. Bethesda's a business. It wants to make money.
I wish Fallout 4 was more like NV too, but this is the real world we're living in.
>>316399263
It's machine gun not assault riffle. I guess it could work as such for soldiers in power armors, but for those without it would be too big, too heavy, too clunky.
>>316410539
I'm not talking about design wise, a semi-automatic rifle is a completly different kind of a gun than a bolt action one.
>>316409087
>>kill your son
>>or nuke
>>the commonwealth
Wow is that seriously the ending to this fucking game?
>>316410105
The wife could easily be a war veteran as well. Pre-war Fallout wasn't *literally* the 1950s.
How comeShaun is an old man in 4 and Kellogg looks like 40, despite having kidnapped him as a baby?
>>316408898
>Bolt on the wrong side
God that triggers my gun autism so hard
>>316410539
>STALKER
>realistic gun design
kek
>>316410026
?? Its the status effect upgrade path in VC. All the guns in that path have the same barrel structure.
>>316410128
There's a semi-auto combat rifle that uses .45.
>>316410671
The saddest thing is it's a scrapped idea from Fallout 3.
>In contrast, the Lone Wanderer, son of James from Fallout 3, was originally forced to slay his own father, but the part of the storyline was scrapped away.
>>316410707
I'm pretty sure the wife was a lawyer or something
>>316410351
die
>>316410539
New Vegas had a healthy mix of real-world and bullshit weapons that did a good job of providing that alternate-reality, Sci-Fi firepower alongside weapons that could actually exist in the real world and that look like something that would be mass produced and issued/carried.
Everything in Fallout 4 looks like a Bioshock Infinite special snowflake gun. I don't really think it looks that bad, it's just stupid and annoying.
>>316411142
triggered :^)
>>316401038
>not liking the obrez
Disgusting.
>>316408898
>>316410539
Because the guns in other fallout at least tried to make sense. Im not needing 100% realism but making zany designs for the sake if it is stupid. Google homemade guns, or look at Khyber pass. You can have interesting designs without going full retard
>>316410637
>too big, too heavy, too clunky
Not really. The only thing that'd make that gun too heavy is the liquid cooling system which you'd only need if you were in a sustained firefight.
>>316406040
Try that with the power armour on
>>316410707
Wife is a lawyer.
>>316411628
>>316411141
Is that made explicit? If so, that's dumb.
>>316407752
Ilikethe new super sledge design
>>316409528
No, the '50s were basically exactly the same in Fallout. It's just that the culture doesn't really progress in the same way after the '50s.
>>316410728
Maybe becausekellogg is a cyborg
>>316410739
Every single bolt action is on the left and the animtions look goofy as fuck because of it. Why the fuck did they even bother to change this of all things.
>>316400834
>The combat rifle doesn't feel good
What the fuck, nigga.
This thing has been carrying me through half the story.
>>316400619
>Assault Rifle
>water cooling
no, its just a really silly design, made up universe or not.
>>316409850
I found one with power armor pieces on so sorry to ruin the surprise for you and he was shooting at me while one of those fucking suicide bomber mutants ran at me
>>316407752
m8, why do you keep saying spears? there no spears in fo4
>go str build
>melee weapons and heavy weapons have shit weapon mods
i guess i cant turn my machete into a shiskbab because its a fucking separate weapon later on
>>316399207
Did you ever consider that H&K may have sued them or some shit over the shape of the buttstock? They are a German company after all.
>>316412182
Is that a stock for manlets?
>>316412556
oh, so it was designed by todd
>>316412612
Bethesda: by manlets, for manlets!
>>316409850
It's not power armor power armor.
It's just shitty, cobbled together scraps that you can mix and match with your armor, though I doubt you'd want to.
>>316410128
Nigger the combat rifle is the best gun in the game. It fires .45 which only the shitty submachine gun uses but is still a common round, does fucklots of damage for a semi-automatic firing bullets you find several dozen of at once, is accurate as hell and wrecks shit.
I have it and a modded hunting rifle and the Combat only does 4 less damage.
>>316409750
They don't call it an enchantment, but it's inherent in the dropped gun, you can't take it out and there's no explanation as to why exactly these guns have those effects. It's literally magic.
>>316399794
>ammo
>scarce
There is a Perk for that you humongous retard.
>>316412717
Found the exploding assault rifle and have stuck with that most of the game so far.
>combat "rifle"
>fires .45 pistol/smg bullets, even though the model has a large rifle magazine with rifle bullets VISIBLE in it during reload
bethesda does it again!
>>316412556
It's made for footballing the gun for hip fire.
>>316405628
Power armor increases melee damage. Strength scales ridiculously with damage. Strength has actually good perks, including power armor-related ones. Endurance is good now. Lategame melee weapons are fucking devastating. Almost every armor legendary drop I've found would work for melee.
Melee's about becoming undeadable and bashing in faces now, not one-shotting people instantly.
>>316412371
That wasnt me, that was the other guy.
>>316408170
the bolt shouldn't be able cycle at all in the fallout 3 shotgun. there is supposed to be an ejection port's length worth of free space for the bolt to travel back, but there isn't any.
>hmm i'm running out of ammo
>go to diamond city to buy some
>mfw the prices of ammo
looks like I should have went melee
JUST
>>316413171
you can at least mod it to fire .308with gun nut 4 or something
>>316413579
I haven't played the game but that sounds good.
I like the idea of having to conserve ammunition instead of shooting at everything as if I'm playing an arcade shoot 'em up.
WORKS
>>316413579
Shoot ferals in the leg until it explodes.
Repeat until they're all on the ground.
Beat them to death.
And carry a multitude of guns, not just the best one you have. Use your shitty ammo on shit enemies.
senpai kek
>>316413731
lazer weapons put ferals on the ground in like 3 shoots to the legs
>>316413873
Combat rifle shot with one in Commando to the leg puts them down in one shot as well. Then you just do it to their buddies and keep smacking them with your gun butt until they die.
Is it possible to changer colors in any gun?
>>316411780
Yes, her diploma is in the living room, and you can examine it.
>>316414804
On your baseball bat.
That's it.
Institute weapons look slick. Come at me.
>>316399263
looks like that one gun from TNO
>>316415271
Where did you find that PA?
Is there a mod that makes it not a Bethesda game?
>>316415336
Down South
>>316406582
glad im not the only one who hates steampunk. what else do you expect in this age of mediocrity
>>316415271
>black eyes
so close to perfection and they just had to fuck this up
>>316406582
The M16 wasn't even introduced until the mid 60s you retard. The M14 and M1 garand are 50s early 60s
>>316415783
I've seen a white suit with red eyes posted in another thread, also the eyes light up.
How do i fix ths?
>>316415783
-> HATE POSTER
>>316408593
In new vegas you learn that people DO control the flow of bottlecaps. They take out old and busted bottle caps and introduce fresh ones, since they have their own presses. They also send you on a mission to destroy a counterfeit bottlecap machine.
They said they don't really care about small-scale shit since it takes forever to make enough to buy shit, but they crack down on cap-presses
>>316416163
>red
Yellow, it should be yellow!
>>316411141
>>316411628
>>316411780
She mentions 'dusting off her law degree' in the tape Codsworth gives you so maybe she went to law school but then joined the army?
>>316399263
Bethesda's theme for FO4 revolves around soft round shapes, which is why there are a fuckton of pipe weapons. This is also reflected elsewhere in enemy models such as Yao Guai, Deathclaws, and Mirelurks, as well as the environment itself ranging from machinery to the layout of certain areas. Even the new power armor design carries this theme with the more compact outline and added bulkiness.
>>316415572
Is that enclave power armor?
Wut
If I can run NV at medium settings, think I can run this at low?
How the fuck do companion perks even work? You max their affection and you get the perk, right? I got codsworth to talk about how much he loves me and my family but no perk has shown up. Does that mean I have to suck up to the robot even more?
>>316416329
>Running NV at medium
What kind of toaster do you have?
>pick lock on a safe
>Strong disliked that
what the fuck is this horse shit
>>316416329
If you cant run NV at max your PC will explode running FO4 even at low.
>>316416517
Well, to it's benefit it runs at 60 on medium.
>>316416217
No yellow around here until mods arrive
>>316406582
I have no clue where you guys are getting the steampunk vibe from.
>>316416615
maybe because hes a Mongoloid fuck that likes smashing shit open rather than lock picking
>>316416329
You should be asking yourself how well you can run Skyrim instead
>>316416615
HATE LOCKPICKING
>>316416753
Well at least the base model is pretty good.
>>316416163
what the shit?
how do you get multiple rigs?
>>316416816
People think anything with pipes slapped on is trying to be steampunk even though steampunk fags slap gears on things and pipes is more dieselpunk
>>316416947
Find more Power Armor Frames around the map. You can even buy a couple of them from vendors.
Where do I find a power fist?
I want to punch shit.
>>316399263
Its trying too hard to look WWI steam punk.
These damn atheistic changes make the universe so disjointed and confusing. There's no continuity with it at all.
>>316416753
nice armour, have you been finding them or googling them like a fuck boy ?
>>316416947
They're all over the place
>>316416753
>multiple power armors just fucking standing there in the open
holy fuck, my autism got triggered hard
at least in Fallout 3 your base of operations had doors.
>>316416721
Well, I never really tried max but it could have worked.
>>316416863
I could run skyrim very well on medium settings.
>>316417128
i found one in goodneighborhood
Glad to see people are finally catching on. I don't mind the pipe weapons but I want some real fucking guns as well.
>>316416136
>CRC check
>cyclic redundancy check check
>>316407604
Looks like they did.
>>316416947
Literally just look around.
There's at least one on every military base bigger than a single building.
>>316417285
You have to build up a wall + doors to keep out raiders or they take your shit
>The X-01 powered infantry armor can be located inside the Abandoned shack. Can be found at level 30+.
Wait, loot is level scaled now?
>>316417487
How do you hold the handle on this one with that second rod coming from the stock?
What are some good mods for new Vegas
>>316416615
>Paint your power armor Hot Rod
>Codsworth liked that
>>316413579
>Every bullet turret in the game is apparently filled with 1,000 rounds of ammo.
>You can't break them open and become a trillionaire and pay someone to make you forget fallout 4
>>316417747
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_Mods
>>316416947
>how do you get multiple rigs?
You'll find them while exploring. Earlier today I found an empty suit along with like 7 fusion cores in a comms array infested with super mutant
>>316415572
>>316415271
Can you paint it black?
>>316399263
isn't it actually called a heavy assault rifle? doesn't that make it a different gun?
>>316417705
Or you could just build turrets.
If they wanted "retro-futuristic" guns they could have just dressed futuristic looking guns up with old furniture.
>>316417242
>flame armor
Guess Guy Fieri survived the apocalypse
>>316418008
Just the colours you can paint on the others
>>316415005
I figure it has her name on it?
What if you play a female character? Does it update to put your name on it, oris it the husband's instead?
>Wanted to make my character a TF2 Engineer
>Get the hard hat
>Get the goggles
>Get the 12 shot pistol
>Get the wrench
>Pump action shotgun doesn't exist in the game
N I G G E R S
>>316418484
What are those?
>>316418540
Sawyer said looping reloads were a huge pain to get working on Bethbryo. So I guess Beth didn't want to bother.
>>316415271
>we want the dmc audience
>>316418540
Can you throw down the little turrets in battle?
Can anyone confirm where the saves are kept for the non-Steam, aka pirated, version?
>>316410128
is that .png at the end the type of image, or the sound of the clip ejecting?
>>316399263
This is some ork tier shit
Why does the sky turn green whenever it storms
>bottlecaps as currency
>in Boston
Oh boy! Plot hole and inconsistencies time? Here we go.
Makes no fucking sense at all, there is no handwave that could explain it. Boston/Diamond City was a mostly intact city down with a mayor/central autority. Yet they don't mint/print any currency, nothing. They magically uses bottlecaps just... because..
200 years with acess to pre-war knowledge and tech and they relied on bartering and bottlecaps. And the protag doesn't question it, doesn't blink. He automatically uses bottlecaps as currency just like dollars.
MAKES. NO. FUCKING. SENSE.
>>316410739
>>316412095
THE WRONG HANDED WILL INHERIT THE EARTH
That triggers you rather than being a horrifically overbuilt hunting rifle?
>>316416227
>chest armor is angled to direct bullets into your throat
just kill me faster, senpai
Diamond City is Fenway right?
>>316420895
It concerns me because it makes the animations look wierd. The animations shouldnt look forced, reloading and chambering with boltactions looks awkward as fuck now.
>>316420427
Fallout 4 is a Fallout Game™
It only exists to be a Fallout Game™
It doesn't exist to further Fallout's story or develop it's world or even to be a good game, only to make money off a known IP.
The /very first/ mission of the game has you
>receive a dog companion
>receive a suit of power armor
>fight a Deathclaw
because it's a Fallout Game™ and these are all recognizable trademarks of other Fallout games. Same reason why they use caps.
There is no attempt at nuance, tact, or subtly, because they are here to sell a product, The Fallout Game™.
Where the fuck do I find this pistol?
>>316421043
Yep right into your power armor protected throat
Weapons look like fucking shit in this game
I miss being a cowboy in New Vegas
>>316406582
Previous fallout games had carbon copies of modern guns like the P90 and the PGM Hecate II, there's no reason to try for an outdated aesthetic at all.
>>316421449
Please for the love of fuck tell m there are revolvers in the game, or at least a selection of pistols.
>>316417285
cant steal them if you take the fusion cores out
>>316421236
...why? It's not like "right-handed" rifles have never had charging handles on the left. Never seen an HK slap?
>>316421821
Fuck, that makes too much sense.
>>316421598
There's .44 revolver which are alright but that's literally it except for an awful pipe one
>>316417128
swans lake has a unique version with reo bars sticking out
>>316413579
Melee is slow and shitty in this game even with fast weapons, I don't recommend it.
>>316421598
There's a .44 revolver.
You're likely to get the unique version first though.
>>316422019
>one punch/slash/smash
>reset
>wait 1 second
>one punch/slash/smash
yeah its pretty shit. I wonder if it gets better if you go right into a melee build
>>316421313
lol holy shit. that is a reused asset from fallout 3. ive seen it in a gameplay video years ago
>>316422189
How could they fuck up so hard? These are the people that made Melee Scrolls.
>>316422392
Are you trying to answer your own question? What part of swinging your weapon around like a wiffle bat in Skyrim was good?
>>316422573
>sights on a pistol
I take it you can customize it beyond the scope?
>>316407116
>i know everything about guns
>suddenly pipe weapons are steampunk
Metros "Bastard Gun" is what came to mind first desu
>>316422750
see the shit on the right. Thats the customization slots and the parts in each slot.
>>316407116
hey Fuck Nugget Supreme why dont u take a trip to kill ruself avenu LOL
Do I just continuesly do the bos missions for the chick and dude? Or is there a cap? Sick of fetchung tech and killing super mutants.
There's quite a few songs in this game about going out and finding uranium ore is that a thing people did in the 50s
>>316399263
>Lawsuit from 4A when?
>>316410707
sdgfsdgfhdh
the aesthetics in the bethesda fallout universe are all over the place. i think they just put so much clashing shit in there so you can pretend to be doctor who or pretend to be stalker or pretend to be mad max or pretend to be steampunk etc. they just kind of throw stuff out and hope something sticks
>>316421313
Get it early in the Railroad faction questline
>>316415941
it was designed in 1956 and produced from 1959. Culture in the early 1960's was the same as the culture in the 1950's before the hippy movement became popular. You're the retard
>>316403958
Lel those pipe revolvers are basically frankengun glitches from msgv
>>316422676
Right, they made it far worse.
Where the fuck can I find a real revolver and not this shitstain pipe shit?
>>316422809
Having the gas tube go out and around the cooling cylinder instead of straight down is kind of stupid. Saying the recoil can't be in the underbarrel handguard is just wrong, though.
>>316423181
No, there is an unlimited amount. This game has "radiant" quests like Skrim.
>>316421245
You forgot the mention the shitty radio options
>>316402194
>that weapons list
Is that really all the weapons there are in the game? I haven't made it too far but I've been waiting for something other than pipe rifles and my hunting rifle.
Please tell me it only looks like that because it hasn't been updated, and not because that's genuinely all the weapons there are.
>>316410637
>too big, too heavy, too clunky.
But it's still a gun.
>>316399263
That would probably weigh around 23 pounds, like most modern medium machine guns. Its resembles far mor of the MG08/15 light machine gun model that was made by the Germans in ww1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_08
Nothing wrong with the aesthetic I say. Given the regresssion in technology and knowledge it only seems natural they would progress again on the similar path of weapons development like our timeline did.
>>316402340
An AR-10 is not an assault rifle tho retard.
>>316423856
Due to the modding, there are not very many weapons.
Luckily real mods will add more eventually I'm sure.
>>316399263
>random knob on the barrel
>random knob on the buttstock
>>316423850
Then do I finish the quest by just becoming an initiate and finding the lost group of bos? That's it?
>All these complaints about ammo
>mfw I chose melee build
Anybody else running into this shit as much as I am?
Obviously it isn't just this particular truck model either, I'm constantly giving away my position and getting assfucked because my perfectly lined up rifle shot hit an invisible wall because I tried to fire through a railing or something.
>That weapon variety
fucking christ
NV's system was so much better
>>316424185
That's fucking beyond stupid. Outside of pipeshit there's maybe ten different weapons or so.
I hate this shit. Just when I was starting to think the game may have a little bit of potential, I find out it's never going to get anywhere with it. How long until I can at least get a weapon and armor pack?
>>316424383
I've learned you need to stick your shit out as far as the NPCs do or you get dogged over.
>>316405628
Get the blacksmithing skill. I use a serrated machete and fight like fucking gladiator circling enemies and avoiding attacks.
>>316424383
Same problem in skyrim until mods fixed it.
>>316424383
I dunno, I've had tons of success firing over cover. Passes by exceptionally fine both on my end and when clipping the enemy's head over the top of his cover or the edge of a railing. I've even been able to hit (and get hit) through metal mesh catwalks like on the Corvega plant
>>316404824
>adding nails to a batt
>diffuses mass of bat on impact, lessening damage
>causes the bat to be structurally unsound at the point of impact, lessening durability
>creates small scratches and gouges instead of pulverizing bone
when will this meme die?
Okay, I'm here to explain the reasoning behind the pipe weapons. It's not good reasoning, but there is a deliberate thought process behind this.
Take where FO4 has its setting: Boston. Very much rooted in maritime tradition and industrial development. A post-industrial society sees these pipe weapons as being silly, but a post-apocalyptic society takes its inspiration from what's left behind. There's lot of pipes and rounded shapes left behind in The Commonwealth; the whole aesthetic of the steam-driven economy still exists in Boston. That's why you have these sort of steam/dieselpunk-like weapons laying around.
It's not great reasoning, since there's a shit-ton of better inspiration for weapons laying around. The laser musket is retarded too, but it also makes sense when you think about it from the same standpoint. I just don't understand why they didn't have the post-apocalyptic wastelanders look at better inspirations for weapons than pipes and Revolutionary War museums. The bayonets are a great addition, though: love them.
>>316405264
It looks like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>316424205
They're not random. The one on the stock looks like a dial for making fine adjustments to length of pull and the one on the front is a cap for the water cooling sleeve.
>>316425402
>Be fatty lardy psty white keyboard soldier
>Doesn't know hat a bat with nails looks much more menacing than a normal bat
>Mostly because he goes doo-doo whenever someone threatens to punch him
Ayyy.
You'll do the same job hitting someone with a nailbat than you will with a normal bat. One is sacier, because it's harder to hide and treat rusty nail cuts than it is broken bones.
It's almost as dumb as this.
>>316425510
>post-apocalyptic society
the apocalypse was over 200 years ago, buddy
people on the west coast weren't even using many makeshift guns and that was 40 years ago. theres been plenty of time to rebuild and start producing actual weapons (see: gun runners) but in typical Bethesda fashion, people who've been out of their vaults for literal centuries are still just above barbarian cave-man level
>>316425940
Let's take some basic examples and see if you're right.
Hit on the head
Nail bat: Pain, scalp laceration, concussion
Regular bat: death
Hit in the chest
Nail bat: pain, minor bleeding, possible loss of nipple, bruised ribs
Bat: broken ribs, spinal damage, possible death
Do I really need to go on mister edgy weapons?
>>316426003
What the fuck man
>>316426114
I already said:
>It's not good reasoning.
It's just not lol randumb.
>>316403382
I wish it would come back. It's really sexy.
>>316424297
What is going on, my fellow melee nigger?
>>316426267
Bullpup does not belong in the retro-futuristic style.
>>316426193
How actually works
>Hit in the head with a bat
Probably between dead and fucked up
>Hit in the head with a bat plus nails
Same as above, but also bloody
Then
>Bully threatens to hit you
>You shit yourself
>Lil piggy porky whitey cries for mommy
Do we really need to go on pale slime?
>>316426003
>using a "rear sight" for a charging handle
>charging handles in 2015
>"break action lock" that sounds more like a flaw
>Empty shell traveling up the barrel
APRS = A Piece of Rancid Shit
>>316410671
Nah, the true ending is beating the shit out of the Institute with the Brotherhood.
>>316426401
>retro future
hardly any of the original fallouts' weapons were "retro future" at all
>>316426437
I find your racial attacks triggering as I'm a transnigger. Please put your hate speech in spoilers next time or Ill report you to the authorities of this chatroom.
Also 2+ on 1 with bat: Just fine
2+ on 1 with nail bat: nail bat fails to wound sufficiently and breaks on first swing.
>>316410649
And the combat rifle is exactly what you were describing. What point are you trying to make?
>>316413579
>Not getting a SWATTER and changing yourself into melee
>>316426401
Fuck it doesn't. Bullpups have been around since World War II.
>concentrated fire rank 2 doesn't work
i really thought you'd left the quite literally pointless perks behind in 3 bethesda
really killed my boner
>>316420427
>Implying they aren't using Bottlecaps to be able to trade with the Capital Wasteland
>>316426510
SICKest BURN
>>316404387
In Fallout4 on the tip-screen it also says that Nuka Cola was so popular that they made a ton of it (enough for 200 years), so the quantity is there too.
>>316399263
Really only three glaring issues with this gun as far as I can tell.
First, the tube going outside and around the cooling chamber to reach the recoil chamber is just bad design. That connection should be as short, sturdy, and protected as possible because the gun wouldn't be automatic without it.
Second, the pistol grip is where the recoil spring should be.
Third, it's a machine gun. That magazine would be out of ammo in a second.
One last nitpick, too many parts of this gun look too modern. The cooling chamber might look retro, but nothing else does.
>>316426884
That sounds like an absolutely retarded idea to do as a business, but then again, I didn't got a degree.
>>316427027
>it's a machine gun
You have to modify it to be automatic.
>>316427439
>implying Nuka-Cola wasn't in on the Shadow Government's plans to reset society and that the mass production of Nuka-Cola wasn't to give primitives some means of currency while they rebuild the backbone of infrastructure for them to take over
>>316427439
It depends. If you take a look at it, Coal (the real stuff) gets made worldwide for millions of consumers, for multiple days. Imagine 99% got wiped out in 1 go, there'd be so many bottles leftover.
>>316427484
Whatever the game says it is, they design is still an amalgamation of machine gun parts.
>>316426813
>what is currency exchange
>>316413579
I heard you can't craft or recycle ammo in fallout 4.
Is this true?
'kay, It came to the point where I can't take it, there's a glitch that won't go, even if I exit the game and come back... Parson won't stop spawning next to me, even if my companion is dogemeat... He's creeping me out all the time and there's a reason why I don't take human companions. It's because they try to communicate... Anyone had this issue ? Nor a solution ? ( xbox One ) please!
![picture_with_santa-s540x674-277484[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TfHctBF.jpg "picture with santa-s540x674-277484[1]")
>>316427604
>Coal
>>316427484
Wait it's a semi-auto only "assault rifle"?
That's more of a battle rifle then isn't it?...
Also if it's semi-auto to start why the fuck does it need a massive water/liquid cooling jacket around the barrel?
Bethesda what are you doing.
>>316427864
>xbox One
>.....
I hope your suffering never ends
>>316427604
I suppose, but at the same time, 200 years? That's so many days. Like, if you had a bottle a day... I can't imagine it lasting so long.
>>316415572
Thats a nice screenshot, anon.
>>316427925
Yeah typos happen.
I mean, you don't bottle coal? pfft, casual.
>>316427821
So far I haven't seen any ammo recycling of any kind. It looks to now be a money drain, to keep you from having 15k caps on your person all the time. Every stop at the local shop leaves me at around 1k caps at most, 600 dipped into ammo before total.
>>316427821
I don't think there's any ammo crafting. Haven't found any parts for them or any reloading benches.
I don't even think there's multiple types of ammo
>>316420427
It's been explained many times in this thread why bottlecaps are a currency in Nevada in the first place, and since it's a logical conclusion to make I don't see why other societies in other regions wouldn't reach this conclusion as well. And once they had, there's no real reason to change it. Especially when there are many more much pressing issues to address as a society, why would you bother changing a perfectly fine system of currency?
As for the barter system, that still exists in the modern world all over the place. Especially areas rife with poverty or without a central/active government. i.e. exactly the kind of conditions as the wasteland or even a semi-developed and anarchic region like the Commonwealth
>>316427971
It's the modification system.
Each weapon platform can go from pistol to rifle (or at least a very short to very long weapon). Change the receiver from a semi-automatic to full-auto.
By default, that assault weapon is semi-automatic.
For example, the Pipegun is the most versatile, it's modification list can make it go from a tiny pistol to an SMG or assault rifle, and extended further to a sniper rifle making use of different ammo types.
>>316418689
>if gun.ammo == 0 or player.reload{
>while !player.attack and !player.holster{
>while gun.magcount < gun.maxmag{
>player.animation = gun.reloadanimation;
>playanimation player.animation;
>}
>player.animation = gun.cockanimation; #special animation assigned to guns that need cocking every shot
>playanimation player.animation;
>}
>}
wew lad
>>316422189
>put on power armour
>swing super sledge without any bonus damage perksor stat requirements ;)
>smack raiders head off in a single swing
Not sure what the issue is.
Parrying is fun and melee is good if you have more than 5str
>>316399263
I understand that you don't like what happened with Fallout 4, I don't either, but quit searching for every little thing to shit on. The 10mm pistol in FO3 and NV was bulky and ridiculous. The laser rifle and plama pistols looked like shit in those two games. I bet if the K9000 Cyberdog gun was put in FO4 instead of OWB you would be fucking fuming.
>>316427971
Having fun learning about machine guns on the side here.
>>316425725
> the water cooling sleeve
The gun clearly use a Lewis air cooling shroud.
You know what, fuck it you are kinda right, that piece of shit weapon is just stupid as fuck because it use both SOMEHOW
>>316427864
No one...?
>>316412717
Plasma rifle with the best reciever and sniper barrel is better.
72 regular damage + 72 energy means it packs as much punch as a bog standard gauss rifle, and it fires just as fast as the combat rifle.
I'm disappointed with the hunting rifle, I made it into a .50 and it is so fucking shitty the only reason I keep it around is because it's my only .50 gun so I constantly have a pool of around 500 bullets for the thing.
>>316399207
Why doesn't ammunition weigh anything on the East Coast?
>>316410565
new vegas' total sales are higher than fallout 3's
google it
Why does everyone complain about running out of ammo? I am about 11 hours in and haven't ran out of ammo once, do more enemies start to appear after diamond city as I have not gone yet but am exploring the top left part of the map, but so far I have 200 10mm rounds, 280 .32, about 180 shotgun shells, and 80 308.
>>316429259
Because ammunition management is fucking boring and in a game where literally everything non-human is a massive fucking bulletsponge that can soak up hundreds of rounds of ammo, it's pretty counter intuitive.
>>316420427
Bethesda Fallout is a reboot, get over it already.
>>316424297
>>316426315
God melee feels like shit in this game. How do you do it?
>>316403382
Oh god that looks sweet. Why would bethesda remake such an awesome design? It just looks...killer. The combat shotgun from FO3 made me cringe when I took a closer look at the design.
>>316429178
is this considered a laser weapon though?
>>316429678
So let's not even have ammo
>>316407116
Why not ask >>>/k/
>>316399263
where do the bullets even go?
does this thing just have a 5 round capacity or what?
>>316418540
Are you fucking kidding me, not even one pump action? I fucking despise automatic shotguns. Half the fun is the pumping.
>>316428836
Yeah, I'm sure they never thought of 10 lines of psuedo code to fix the problem. You should work for Bethesda!
>>316427864
M'kay, so I have two companions til the end I guess...
>>316410524
Well fuck me that doesn't look half bad. I'm kind of regretting my refund now.
>>316430916
Have you ever looked at Obisidians "quality" code? They can't code for shit.
>>316424745
Main story gives you a damn fine revoler.
What the fuck do with power armor ive taken off? Just leave it in the garage at the Red Rocket?
>>316405145
That European expy World War sim was shit.
>>316430530
Side mounted magazine. It's right above the trigger.
>>316431864
Leave it at wherever your home is.
>>316431864
Leave it anywhere you want. You'll see it on your map in the form of a power armor helmet when you want to go back for it.
Am I the only one who uses .38 exclusively as barter currency for ammo for proper weapons?
I can not stand those piss poor pipe weapons for one fucking second
>>316432487
Nope, I did the same thing. Also took down the Deathclaw at the start exclusively with pipe rifle/laser musket sneak crits and sold the 1500 minigun rounds, never had to worry about ammo again.
>>316432021
You're shit
>>316432487
I have so much ammo for every type of weapon that it doesn't really matter.
Over 2000 rounds of .38 ammo, 150 shotgun ammo and at least 400 of every other kind. Mix in a bit of melee power attacks and ammo is reserved exceptionally well.
I've a unique sniper-modded pipegun with a 25 point bleed effect that I use to plink targets from long range periodically and have them bleed out. If anyone gets close, I take out the electrified baton and stun-lock them to death.
>>316427864
Nevermind, it stopped...
>>316432838
You and your taste are. :^)
>>316424383
>Anybody else running into this shit as much as I am?
Try using VATS to see if you can get a clear shot before firing.
>>316432395
>Leave it anywhere you want. You'll see it on your map in the form of a power armor helmet when you want to go back for it.
One anon said it can get stolen though. Anyone else confirm?
>>316424383
Make use of the cover system (sight up when your face is to a wall, causing the weapon to point down), it will always peek you out far enough to get a clear shot and pull you back when you go back to hip aim.
>>316435707
>using VATS
One of the few good things about this game is that they included proper gunplay and added a stupid nerf so that VATS no longer freezes time to allow you to properly analyze and plan your shots, it only slows it down like 50% so the enemies are only slightly less pressing than in real-time. VATS accuracy is utter shit compared to real time combat, so they effectively made real time combat enjoyable while at the same time removing the only reason I ever used that garbage system in the first place
>>316427821
If it was part of New Vegas, it isn't part of 4. Beth is salty as fuck and wants everyone to forget that game.
>>316431864
>>316432395
I wish you could just put it in inventory or something
>>316416286
>>316415336
For anyone still wondering, I just found most of it. It is in a bunker in the Glowing Sea, near the Abandoned Shack
It is missing a leg and a helmet, but I stole the helmet from the Brotherhood airship
>>316422054
>You're likely to get the unique version first though.
There's a .44 Snubnose right next to the East of the trucker stop, along the river.
That shows how little you fucking mongoloids explore and just follow the path to the next quest like drones.
>>316431408
>Obsidian
Who the fuck was talking about them?
>>316422189
Nigga what?
There are melee combos in this game. MELEE COMBOS. You can stunlock enemies in a flurry and knock them down, then straddle on top of them and beat them more.
You people are literally fucking retarded for never trying out melee weapons, even I got this far with 1 str.
>>316437259
You can but it weights like 200 in total.
>>316418104
>wood furniture bullpup
Muh dick
>trudging through feral ghouls while in power armor
>their scratches make pathetic little tink sounds against my armor
At least they made power armor a walking tank this time around
On a budget rig, what kind of tweaks should I make to the settings to get it to run as smoothly as possible in bustling, city center areas?
>instead of loading different types of ammo you have a magical attatchment that magically turns your pistol into a plasma weapon
>>316418104
Oh great
A gun that melts, jams AND burns.
>>316439019
Define budget rig, it runs with steady 60 fps in diamond city for me on a 770 gtx and a stoneage X4 640 amd
>>316439117
>We wanted the Borderlands audience
>>316438296
>.45
>the receiver makes it armor piercing
>pistol grip can't actually be held thanks to the stock
this triggers me
>>316439187
But that means your gun can melt, burn, and be used as a blunt weapon literally 4 different uses for one gun
>>316439117
I wish.
>>316438442
relax faggot. They even said they didnt try a melee build. Are you one of those trish fags by chance?
>>316439117
Apparently custom ammo was just too complicated for the modern consumer
That or bethesda didnt want to admit NV got it right
>>316439326
Ill stick to the good ol' revolver thank you very much
>>316439324
Yeah, apparently the .45 magazine turns a combat shotgun into an automatic rifle, despite the disparity of the barrel size. I don't mind it though
>>316439373
There's custom ammo, but it's restricted to specific legendary modifiers only. Such as explosive smg ammo.
>>316439217
R9 280 and FX 8320
Are you using Ultra settings?
>>316407116
Looks like a Sterling modified for a heavier round. The extra tube is for the gas to be used to cycle the gun.
It looks tacked on because it is tacked on. It's a cobbled together weapon. Looking at the barrel and that's a water cooled barrel from a Browning.
Now, going by the barrel being from a browning that might e a heat pipe going from the water to a heat sink to provide extra cooling. I doubt you'd be carrying around a spare water tank, after all.
Then it could be both a heat pipe and a gas vent.
>>316439373
Few people ever gave a fuck about custom ammo in NV. They'd just slap in whatever ammo they had that would fit their gun.
By default, I didn't see any benefit to the other types of ammo in NV. I was loaded with so much standard ammo, and all of the match grade / performance / piercing ammo all appeared to have more detriments than benefits. The difference in damage was minimal but the wear on weapons was severe.
I was better off machining those back to normal bullets and putting a few more of those rounds into the enemy.
>>316438579
The whole thing? Frame too?
>>316439779
Yes, but I use god rays on medium and dof on low, without motion blur. Because I hate that shit.
>>316436832
>VATS accuracy is utter shit compared to real time combat
Only if you don't invest in the relevant perks. As it should be. You only care about real time combat if you want to play it as a first person shooter. To each their own.
>>316439575
>Silent Scope
pff...
I'm doing that quest for the brotherhood where I need to find the 3 lost scribes and I'm currently in the Med-Tek research facility
where the fuck are the codes for the airlock computer and the executive terminal
>>316439950
There's no point in carrying around the basic frame if you've already got one. You can use them without fusion cores anyway, you just can't fast travel or use VATS/Sprint if it has no core.
>>316439871
It was more than just custom ammunition in NV though, the system allowed you to reload your own ammunition. You could create new types of ammo for different enemies, I know I used a modified .45-70 gov't for certain power armored assholes with a higher DT and thus I needed higher damage output per round. You could also save spent shells and use components from other, less useful ammunition to craft more rounds for your preferred weapon rather than spending the caps for the rounds.
It was a great system.
>>316440097
I don't play the game like a first person shooter, I play it as a roleplaying game, as it should be. VATS was never anything more than a shoehorned attempt to make certain turn-based skills relevant in a real-time combat environment. Which, for the most part, worked somewhat well when it actually froze time and allowed the combatants to take turns, in a way. Now that they have removed skills for whatever fucking reason, as well as removing the turn-based aspect of VATS, a system designed to keep turn-based combat in the game, it's basically 100% worthless.
>>316403958
>knows nothing about guns
but the protagonist is ex military
>>316401038
>2015
>not wanting to bury NATO
Travis is easily and by far THE best radio DJ in the series.
anyone know if theres a way to make the power armor hud less opaque?
>>316406962
Except for gas impingement and direct blowback or open bolt MGs.
>>316440550
pls help I've searched every square inch like 5 times
>>316415336
Two major locations
BE ABOVE or around lvl 40
Abandoned shack, or better still in a blue freight box near National Guard Center, master lockpick.
>>316438296
Where is this truck stop, specifically?
>>316443367
He's talking about Dog Boner Truck Stop
>>316412486
The shishkebab in this game looks more like a katana, honestly.
>People buy ammo
How the fuck are you ever running out of ammo, unless you're talking about rockets or something?
I've been using .38, shells, .45, .308 all pretty constantly and I have literally hundreds of all of them without ever buying a single shot, and also not taking that perk.
>>316430030
Holy shit that looks awesome, the fuck is that thing?
>>316444945
looks like some sort of rail gun to me
>>316444945
Going by the ammo type, that's a Gauss Rifle.
>>316439575
>>316439324
That's the combat rifle, not the shotgun. Though .45 is usually a pistol round, right?
>>316444945
A good mixture of post-war ingenuity and pre-war tech.
>>316444945
That abomination is the shitty new design for the Gauss Rifle.
At least it uses 2mm EC this time.
>>316445316
>abomination
Mind explaining your reasoning there, Farnsworth?
>>316430030
>long night vision scope
>tiny as fuck scope
>rad roaches tank three shots from my modified laser rifle
Bethesda's leveling system is still utter shit, I see.
>>316445617
It looks like shit compared to the original.
>>316418592
I do think this one is black, just the thing that Adhesive is a bitch to find
>>316445681
Not really. It looks like it was jury-rigged using what components are available.
The original looked like a bunch of Tesla coils plastered on top of each other mounted onto a stock.
>>316445638
It kinda looks like the lens for it is near the end of the gun, then it ducks down in to the weapon and pops out near the stock.
>>316430569
Nope double barrel or semi.
>>316424008
Why the fuck would they make it water cooled though? It's not like it's used on a tripod in a static defensive role.
>>316440550
They are not in med-tek.
>>316445865
>It looks like it was jury-rigged using what components are available.
You don't just jury-rig a fucking military grade magnetic accelerator. It was manufactured by the army, not the Future Gadget Laboratory.
>>316429034
>Lewis air cooling shroud.
You can clearly see the fill cap and drain plug for the water on the sleeve.
>>316447409
Yeah after leaving Med-Tek I realized they were like 50 feet from the building fucking wasted an hour searching the fucking building
>>316430030
>2mm EC
Oh, wasn't expecting them to bring Gauss weapons back as their own type.
>>316444945
The Last Minute, can't you read?
>>316447424
People like you are why my automated Brahmin milker will never take off.
>manufactured by the army
It looks more like it was manufactured by someone with some scientific know-how, from parts scrapped and prospected from ruins.
NV does a professionally-built gauss rifle better, anyway. Face it, just because it's from a Black Isle title doesn't automagically make it better.
>in the middle of a firefight
>press favorites hotkey for shotgun
>takes three full seconds between when my character puts away his rifle and when he pulls out his shotgun
Am I the only one experiencing this? I lost a good bit of health on account of such bullshit. Game will be working totally fine in every other aspect but this keeps happening to me.
>>316447994
>looks more like it was manufactured by someone with some scientific know-how, from parts scrapped and prospected from ruins.
Nah, it looks like an experimental military gun.
>NV does a professionally-built gauss rifle better, anyway.
That was from Fallout 3, and yes, it also looks far better than the block of iron with random shit stuck on the sides from Fallout 4. Stop defending the shitty new designs.
>>316425940
>it's harder to hide and treat rusty nail cuts than it is broken bones.
What the fuck no it isn't.
For perk reasons, is there a difference between energy weapons and guns?
>>316448379
Energy weapons are upgraded with science instead of gun nut
That's it
>>316430530
are you blind
>>316439824
>It looks tacked on because it is tacked on. It's a cobbled together weapon.
That's supposed to be a completely intact pre-war assault rifle, no? It shouldn't look "cobbled together".
It's screaming "We need to make it stand out, fuck making it look like it works" to me.
Reminds me of a lot of modern shooter weapon designs.
>>316448308
Except the
>shitty new designs
are pretty good, beyond the fucking pipe weapons.
>it looks like an experimental military gun
Have any source to back up this assertion?
>>316448472
But does the perception perk that raises damage of non-automatic rifles affect energy weapons as well?
Speaking of weapons, what's the news on actually unique weapons? Like has anyone found more?
I don't mean starred bullshit with Borderlands modifiers, I'm talking about shit like this.
This gun is pretty much made for a stealth pistol build, it one shots any human to the chest even on Survival while in stealth for me and I don't even have my pistol skill leveled up past 2 starts yet.
>>316448567
As long as they're non-automatic energy weapons.
>>316448546
>Except the
>>shitty new designs
>are pretty good, beyond the fucking pipe weapons.
No, not really. Some of them are acceptable but many of them look pretty awful. Every single weapon looks like it was cobbled together and not manufactured professionally outside of some of the mid-low tier guns.
>>316448494
>boot Black Ops 3
>mfw these fucking weapons
GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW HEAVY THEY ARE WHEN YOU'VE GOT ROBOARMS
>>316447994
>NV does a professionally-built gauss rifle better,
That Gauss Rifle was in Operation Anchorage first. About the only good thing to come from that DLC.
>>316448768
>and not manufactured professionally outside of some of the mid-low tier guns.
Gee, pre-war tech is rare?
Say it ain't so. What next, are you going to whine there isn't a Gun Runners vendor every town?
>>316448858
I didn't play the FO3 DLC, so I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
>>316448810
I think the weapons are kind of neato. Too bad there's nothing completely ridiculous in BLOPS3 like the literal 3D Printer Gun in AW
>>316441167
Still has typical 30 lines of dialog though.
>>316448984
Are you trying to argue that someone built that Gauss Rifle with scavenged parts? If you have the know how and resources to build a fucking railgun, you're not going to build one that looks like scrap metal.
>>316448672
Just for clarification, you can turn non-automatic weapon into automatic at weapon crafting station, right?
>>316444535
>not purifying water and buying whatever the hell you want
>>316448319
Heh, it depends. You're living in a time where there is probably little to no Tetanus vaccines. And Tetanus can become so bad it causes you to break your own bones. So that nail scratch could in theory lead to several fractures over a few months of time.
>>316441167
OH WE'RE GONNA DIE
>>316448168
I think that's called balance. Certain weapons draw faster.
>>316449231
Yes, I am. Primarily because, let's be real here: if you're in a resource-scarce situation like The Commonwealth is clearly in (still, somehow, more than 200 years after the Great War...whatever, Bethesderp), why would you waste material on prettying up your design? It looks like it would work: stable power flow, electromagnetic hoodookery: check; everything you need for the gun to work is there.
>>316449231
>If you have the know how and resources to build a fucking railgun, you're not going to build one that looks like scrap metal.
Why would it matter what it looks like on the outside as long as it is functional? Cave, Box of Scraps, etc.
>>316449265
Pretty much.
>>316449265
Yeah, by changing out the receiver. If you do, they'll lose the bonus. Same if you put a pistol grip on a rifle or vice-versa. It's a retarded system.
>make a pipe pistol
>20 damage
>put a big stock on it
>18 damage because rifleman is only rank 2 while gunslinger is rank 3
>>316449351
A bit melodramatic there, eh, Skeets?
>>316449507
Because if someone cobbles together a fucking magnetic accelerator it's going to fall apart after you fire it a few times.
>>316449501
>It looks like it would work
Yeah, until it explodes after you fire it a couple times because it's a fucking magnetic accelerator cobbled together from scrap.
Is Cambridge Police Station the only actual Brotherhood base or is there a place with an actual elder
>>316449418
>>316448168
nah I had the same thing happen to me. I was in a fire fight and wanted to switch to my 10 mm via hotkey but it wouldn't come out, so I tried my pipe rifle and it wouldn't come out. I was then convinced I just fucked up my hotkey and started pressing all of them and eventually got my knife out. later I tried it again out of combat and everything was fine and pulled out in a reasonable amount of time. might be a bug, I don't even bother with favoriting anymore, I just go into pipboy to switch weapons since that fiasco
>>316449507
I think not having those dangling wires would do a lot for the gun's longevity.
>>316449508
>>316449537
Thanks.
>It's a retarded system.
Well, the explanation here is, you are used to small pistols and so you are more efficient with them. Makes sense to me.
>>316449743
Play the main quest.
>>316449743They occupy an airport and have a fuckhuge airship
>>316449656
Jury-rigged doesn't mean that it's necessarily cobbled together. The wires are unshielded, that's the biggest niggle you should have with the gun, and even then you can maintain it so the wires don't corrode.
Besides, why would it just magically explode if it works? It's electromagnetism, there's no fucking combustion happening, and the thermal radiation resultant from pushing through all that power is being vented. So long as the chamber has release points for the pressure differential, there's no risk of explosion no matter how it looks.
>>316449418
It's not the drawing speed, the weapon literally doesn't exist for a good bit. Occasionally they'll draw just fine, and sometimes they don't come out for five seconds. Other times my hands will be in the position like they're holding a weapon, but the weapon just doesn't exist and he'll draw it a second later
>>316449756
Nice to know I'm not the only one who's had this happen to them.
It works fine for you from the pip boy though? I was wondering if it was a bug or just some bullshit lag issue
>>316449910
Do you not understand how fucking railguns work? Do you not understand why we don't even have anything close to a working prototype for a railgun small enough to be mounted on a truck let alone carried by hand? It's because you'd need some extremely advanced technology to make it work without breaking instantly or failing entirely. That's not the kind of thing some jackass can build especially if he's too stupid to shield wires that will destroy the gun if they're damaged slightly.
>>316449756
Reminds me of the reloading bug I would hit constantly in new vegas, where I couldn't fire my hunting shotgun after reloading mid combat. Shit sucked.
>>316450184
Explain to me how this is impossible for a society where fusion power has been miniaturized.
>>316428836
Holy shit, this is the worst pseudo code I've ever seen on this site
>>316400834
I love the double-barreled shotgun. Probably gonna mod it more.
>>316450578
Because some random fuck can build a fusion reactor on his own right?
It makes no sense for anyone but the BOS or Institute to have Gauss Rifles in the Commonwealth and both of those would have something that looked professionally manufactured.
>>316450267
>>316449756
A similar thing tends to happen in Skyrim, (at least when I use the equip set hotkey, like switching between dual wield, sword and shield, and two-handers) Sometimes it would take forever to have the equipment change.
I think it is more noticeable in f4 because of the custom appearance due to mods, which increase the loading by additional steps
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