>you get power armor 10 minutes in the game
>you fight a deathclaw literal seconds later
It's like they don't even know what "impact" is!
>>316208208
Are you lying to me? Tell me this doesn't happen.
Guys, tell me OP is a bullshitting faggot. Please.
>>316208478
It's not even a secret you can find, it's literally one of the first quest's objective
>>316208478
sorry desu senpai
>>316208478
He's not. I've been watching my brother play and this shit happens within 2 hours played.
>>316208581
>>316208592
>>316208684
Alright guys, thanks for saving me $60
>Give retarded reviewers all the cool shit within the first hour.
>Legitimate criticisms ignored because POWER ARMOR SO COOL.
You'll see the opposite effect come into play when Xenoblade X launches and it takes for-fucking-ever for you to obtain even one mech.
>>316208478
It's literally the first quest. You use the power armor and minigun before you even get to equip no clothing.
>mfw this level was shown fucking months ago
I watched probably 1/20th of the FO4 videos that were released because I wasn't really interested in buying it, but you niggers should have fucking known this shit. It was the video that convinced me the game was going to be garbage
Looks like my fallout money is going back into my warhammer purchases.
>>316208208
The real question is: do they let you keep it afterwards?
Would be kinda retarded if you were given the best armor in the game so early.
>>316208208
I'm assuming you immediately lose the shit right after the "cinematic" prologue bullshit?
Because it seems like otherwise they'd be destroying the progression of the game.
>>316208478
>>316208794
>>316208845
I remember in FO1/2 you don't get power armor till late mid-game at earliest. And when you do, it really gives you the feeling of being a badass. Betheshit will never understand this.
>>316209529
It's yours forever.
>>316209529
It requires fusion cores to actually do anything useful, so you can keep the armor after the mission, but after 10 minutes of sprinting the battery's drained and you're stuck lugging it around uselessly.
>>316209626
I agree, and they even forced you to do training to use it effectively.
Where the fuck is there a shop? Diamond City, obviously, but I doubt I can safely reach it at level 4
>>316209537
nope, you get Power Armor, the first mininuke, and start base building within a few hours of gameplay
It's the same shit pacing as having you mess with the nuke in Megaton IMMEDIATELY in FO3
>>316209529
Yes. And it trivializes the game. Finding power sources for it is not hard and the energy only really drains while using VATS or sprinting. If you don't do those 2 things there is no reason you can't just use the power armour for the rest of the game.
>>316209728
>>316209659
>stuck lugging it around uselessly.
Can you not get rid of it?
>>316209529
Yes, but it's just the exoskeleton, the frame for building more armor on
And you don't have any fuel for it
>>316209825
you can
>>316209825
you can leave it whenever you want, and it's your choice to use it or not. It's a vehicle not an inventory piece
Why does everything seem so high tech?The whole idea of the Fallout is that the world's what the people in 50s predicted it would be like.
>>316209781
I've been playing for around 16 hours and still haven't found any. I've barely found any NPC's at all, let alone stores or towns. The game seems empty as fuck. It's like they turned it into a dungeon crawler.
It's so bad I've resorted to starting to level up perks so I can just build a trader and stuff in town. Keep in mind I'm only level 19 and haven't made it to diamond city yet (but around the entire top left quadrant of my map is finished).
>>316209825
You can, it's just that you can't just store it in your inventory, you have to manually climb out of it and leave it behind.
>>316209529
>>316209537
It's powered by fusion cores, meaning that if you just run around in it doing bullshit, you will probably run out of fuel when you actually need it. Also, it breaks and you have to repair it.
I honestly dumped it in my base right after finishing the first mission, because it's not really worth using for exploring.
Fallout 4 power armor is essentially a walking tank.
Once it runs out of fuel it's useless so after the *EPIC* fight just walk to a nearest settlement and place it on a rack.
>>316208478
It's not quite 10 minutes, more like 20-30 I'd say. Pretty bad, still.
>>316209465
thats a cool ass board for a game. im gonna have to tell the local guy to do that for his next big vamp count campaign
>>316210147
You take it with you when you have to storm a base.
>>316210138
nigger what the fuck
Fallout 3 was much better put together than this, and I don't even like it outside of it's terrific atmosphere and world design. Those are literally the two things I like about that game. And it's still better than this. What the fuck. They were smart enough to put Megaton like 200m away from the Vault. I don't understand. I just... I don't. This feels like they let the amateurs build the game
>>316210180
I love how the game expects you to be in the power armor in some big fights even though you happen across those fights randomly.
You have to know beforehand that bringing the armor would help leaving you with two options.
1. Travel back and pick up the armor then travel back again.
2. Just do the event without it (What I usually do)
>>316210138
there is a shop very close to the first town
>>316208208
yeah yeah and you run out of minigun ammo in that one fight, and most of your power and it gets kinda broken
point is you will leave it to gather dust in your settlement and keep traveling on foot, so dont exaggerate
DOES THE RED DRESS CLASH WITH THE BAYONET I DONT WANT THE GUYS IN THE WASTELAND TO BULLY ME
>>316210116
Have you ever seen the jetsons? That shit is way more futuristic than this
>>316209781
You can sell to a lady with a quest and a cute daughter on a farm just to the west of the Red Rocket Gas Station!
>>316210426
Just put some blood on it honey and you'll be good to go.
The reason they just gave it to you so early is because it's a new mechanic they made for it
Is it enjoyable? Not really
It's like a timed power up that can break and become worthless and slow you down.
As for the minigun, if you're smart enough to save the bullets before chugging them all into the deathclaw, then kudos, a minigun for a while for you to play with.
The only truely fucked up thing is that Raiders can have power armor and there's one with a fucking fat man and if you have it on the highest difficulty, he's like a god damn sniper with it. Oh yeah, it's one of the first missions you're given that he has all this shit.
>>316210418
>there is a shop very close to the first town
Where? And what "first town"? You mean the town you find the minutemen in or the town right outside vault 111?
>>316208208
>needing power armor at all
then again, minigun at first hour??
>>316208208
More like 30 minutes in but yeah. >>316210512
Nah, I'd say the way they did the beginning of the game was to show that they have been around way longer than you and you need to take cover. This isn't fallout 3 where you can just waltz around doing whatever.
>>316210454
>and a cute daughter on a farm
What? In my game there was only 2 and they were talking about their daughter was killed and had to get them her pendant. Also I couldn't sell to her because she had no caps. It was like interacting with a storage cabinet. Maybe it was because ti was after I helped them and unlocked the workshop?
>>316210598
the town outside vault 11
the mother at the farm near there sells things
>>316210512
oh man I actually liked that the first few missions are so challenging, playing on survival is legit fun
>>316210598
give me a sec I'll take a screenshot
They sure know what impact means in the context of fucking you in the ass.
https://youtu.be/vVUqaw-1cG4
>>316210748
they have 2 daughters, one girl died from raiders
>>316210723
Wow look at them next gen textures.
So how long until thesex mods?
Not gonna botherpiratinguntil some are available.
>>316210723
>tfw minigun actually looks like a minigun now
>>316209781
>>316210138
Have any of the people complaining about the game actually even played it? There is a shop barely 100ft from the first settlement.
I'm sick of all these retards saying it's a timed buff. Yes, technically it is, but it only wears down at a noticeable pace if you use vats or sprint. If you don't do those two things you can wear the power armor for a real long fucking time. On top of that power cores are not hard to find, at all. Most buildings/dungeons will have a generator with a core in it. It's extremely easy to never leave the power armor as soon as you get it.
I'm playing on survival difficulty and have about 16 hours played and still haven't left my power armor. Whoever works in Bethesda's balancing team needs to stop being retarded.
I find it weird that in the last Bethesda Fallout game you had to go through this whole story process in order to properly train yourself to use Power Armor but in FO4 you literally get it in the first mission and kill a damn deathclaw with it.
It's cool that its not unlimited use, and because it takes a while to upgrade it all the way, but honestly I would have preferred a buildup.
>>316210723
how do you not run out of ammo, I spent it all on the deathclaw, cause the bastard refused to die
>>316210598
here is a pic
>>316210909
it will take a while for first serious mods to start rolling out, and it will take even longer for the lewd ones
You meet deathclaws within the first hour of New Vegas too and you faggots ate that shit up
>>316210723
>png
>shit textures
why tho senpai desu baka
>>316211131
Except you can't kill them with serious meta knowledge of the in-game item locations.
>>316210389
I'm stuck on the mission where you have to find the missing squad of Brotherhood of Steel. Died a few times to Legendary mobs with around 25 .308 rounds, 5 shotgun shells and a million rounds of .38.
My bullets bounce off their armor but seeing as I have over 300 5mm rounds left i'm just going to grab my powerarmor and minigun and BRRRT down the supermutants.
It's good for when you find yourself stuck in progression and need that aggressive "fuck everything in this specific area", but it's not good for dicking around with.
>>316211212
>with
*without
>>316211131
Not if you actually follow the quests.
Not to mention that when you first have the chance to fight them you aren't going to do shit to them unless you've mined the wiki on where all the most powerful weapons are and equipped yourself properly, which takes more than an hour outside of console commands.
>>316210917
>>316210723
>minigun overheats
Did anyone else have a legendary Deathclaw for that first fight? Goddamn bulletsponge killed me twice.
>>316211125
Thanks. I must have completely missed this place which is crazy considering all the other things around there I have done
>>316210820
>1:56
>UUUGNH ASHES GO HOME
>NNN ERIN MISSES YOU
nigga sounds like filthy frank
>>316211346
Yes it's legendary on survival difficulty. The minigun doesn't have enough bullets to kill it. You need to use cars to do more damage or really get in it's face so you never miss (which is a death wish).
it's worth it though. All the legendary enemies I've fought so far have been tough as shit (the worst being a mirelurk).
>>316211418
you're welcome
>>316211346
I dont think he was legendary but on survival he killed me about 5 times, before I got him, 2 hits is all it took him to murder me
the bastard also broke the leg and the shoulder of my power armour, so now its gathering rust in the red rocket garage
>>316210964
Thanks. I'm going to start using it right away then.
>>316211346
Speaking of bullets sponges, does FO4 have an editor released already?
The first I did when I bought FO3 and NV was edit the game variables so that all weapons in the game would do around 4x damage, so that I wouldn't have to deal with bullet sponges.
It's not like both of these games were balanced to begin with, kek.
>you get the shittiest barebones version of power armor and a minigun with no ammo
Are you niggers playing on easy?
>>316211537
You can just hide inside the hollow buildings. The deathclaws can't go through the doors and end up running against the windows. This works with almost every structure
all memeing aside, this genuinely made me decide not to buy the game
it was really lame that I had to use power armor to kill Swan
Remember how in New Vegas, hell in the original two games, Deathclaws where endgame enemies that could fuck your shit up even with the best gear?
Remember how you actually had to think if you wanted to risk it or not?
Well I am sure as hell that Bethesta does not.
>>316208208
Banking on the hope that people will judge this game based on the first impression?
Like play half an hour and then rush off to metacritic and write how amazing the entire game is or something like that.
>>316210723
Is the Pipboy hovering around her arm?
>>316211945
No one at Bethesda played the original games. This should've been clear to you by now.
>>316211801
Yeah I learned this later in the game, especially with yao guais and other legendary enemies. The AI in the game is easily abusable.
>>316210919
>ave any of the people complaining about the game actually even played it?
This is /v/.
>>316211945
stop talking out of your ass average equipment is all it took, and sure as fuck you could kill them in PA
>>316209824
>VATS
I never used it past the tutorial.
What's the point ? This shit break the flow of gamupulaiyu.
>>316210138
You're a higher level than me and i'm pretty sure im half way through
>>316212143
>Unironically playing on Normal
I really hope you guys don't this.
>>316212462
Whats hard like in this one? Does it just turn all the enemies into bullet sponges?
Bethesda must have fuxking downs syndrome
>>316211589
It's really not hard to repair
>you literally get power armor and a minigun 60 seconds into the game
>you seriously fight a deathclaw one millisecond after you find the armor and so on and so forth
so is this game like Star Wars the new trilogy syndrome?
Where all the fanboys losing their shit over lightsabers and the relatively little use of it in the original movies, then they are flooded with lightsabers every fucking action scene and the actual cool factor is out the window?
>>316212851
Fallout 1 and 2 are "old" and ""dated"" now
>>316212851
Pretty much.
Lost are the days when getting your power armor was a huge game changer.
Gone are the times where you shat your pants with the sight of a Deathclaw.
>>316210413
they should of done an ironman idea and have it come to you if it had energy.
>>316208208
>tfw you realize underages don't realize you could get MK 2 Power Armor and free a talking Deathclaw in the first ten minutes of Fallout 2
you're all fucking underage faggots senpai
>>316211068
they probably had a higher up guy or, god-forbid, a whole crew of people going
>Dude! We HAVE to put power armor in there, man
>Power armor is cool as fuck and it'll be cool if the player, like, gets it right in the beginning
>yea, shit'll be fucking amazing, and a minigun!
>Deathclaws are cool too, we NEED to put one in when you get your power armor.
>Power armor+ minigun + deathclaw = EPIC
I swear to god, as I was typing that, I could perfectly picture all the developers just smiling, nodding, and high fiving each other in agreement.
So far the only thing I've enjoyed is the base building. Everything else kind of sucks
Is the jetpack a proper jetback or just one of those jump higher, fall slower things?
>>316212606
Aside from the legendary Deathclaw taking a shit-ton of minigun bullets to kill (bear in mind this is at like level 4 and with no perks) the majority of enemies you fight on survival at least feel like what metro did for their hard mode. I was taking a ton of damage but so were they.
>>316213248
Kids today cant even read or run a mile
You think they have the patience to deal with pretend work in a video game?
Lol
>>316213293
Bitch please, that requires a huge amount of metagame. We are talking about your first playthrough here.
>>316213293
Yeah, if you know the exact locations of said power armor and Deathclaw and beeline directly to it. Difference here is that the quest markers frog-march you directly into power armor deathclaw battles.
>>316213340
If they added a seige mechanic where you had to defend it progressively, say , against supermutants raiding your water, and the point of accumulating resources was thus, marrying gameplay and story... great
But they didnt do that, did they?
>>316210138
Somewhat same shoes
I went to diamond city but almost every hour of the day Arturo isn't near his fucking store and I can't buy ammo anywhere else 5 hours in
>>316212742
I know, but I've spent all my junk improving regular armour and weaponry, AND I have ran out of minigun ammo and not being able to sprint because you'll instantly run out of juice is a pain, basically I like walking around on foot
>>316210820
>Deathclaws have a 1HK they can use on you
Who thought this was a good idea? Like I could understand it potentially making sense in a lore sense but it's not fun gameplay-wise.
>>316213638
They do that exactly once, as a late-game quest. Institute raids your shit, though. Not super mutants
>>316213248
If you get caught by a Deathclaw outside of your power armor, you're fucked.
>>316213638
>add seige mechanic
>under attack like every five minutes
>your dudes can't defend for shit, because AI is locked in mouthbreathing retard mode
>have to stop whatever you are doing at the moment and return every time to handle everything yourself
Yeah, I can see how that would have made things more enjoyable.
>>316213793
That's the point though, Deathclaws are supposed to be nigh-unstoppable murder machines that no sane person would even think about going near, much less fighting.
Hell, in NV mint-conditioned power armor will stop maybe 2 Deathclaw swipes, maybe 1 more if you have high END, but that's the entire point. They even had the courtesy to put them in a separate clearly-marked area with NPCs outside of it strongly warning you to not fuck with the Deathclaws.
>>316213340
I hate that you can't really make a character look under the age of 30. Same as Skyrim without mods.
>>316211324
Is from the book: Andrew Loomis - Fun WIth a Pencil?
>>316214074
This. I'm glad they didn't bother because it wouldn't have been implemented well.
So far it's weird how many suits of armor I've found, and I'm not short on batteries, but is there any way to construct like a recharger or something so that I don't have to worry about running out of juice?
I like the idea of the armor being for special, targeted occasions but unless I know I won't one day run out I'm worried I'll never use it.
>>316214159
>Deathclaws are supposed to be nigh-unstoppable murder machines that no sane person would even think about going near, much less fighting.
You clear a whole nest of them in Fallout 1 without much trouble. It's not even in the end game.
They're nowhere near unstoppable, they're just the most dangerous beasts out there.
Super mutants are supposed to be a much bigger threat
>>316214291
Looks like it.
>>316213798
If you just hang out at your settlement it will get raided. I've had a couple legendary super mutants show up and get rekt by my turrets. If you have any power armor lying around your settlers jump in it and fuck raiders up its pretty neat.
>>316214357
>without much trouble
Are you fucking kidding me they were incredibly difficult to deal with I had to dish out all my caps on stimpacks and ammo and when you do do the quest it is mid-game.
>>316214350
basically my position. Ive got 3 full power armor suits and like 12 fusion cores but I never want to use it. pretty sure theres gotta be a way to recharge them in the late game so you can effectively wear it permanently like in the other games.
>get power armor a half hour after starting just by following the main quest
>can literally find power armor just a couple minute walk from your vault, except without power
>4 hours later run into the Brotherhood of Steel guy, after completing his first quest he tells me to join the BoS becase "we got powerful weapons and you can get your very own power armor!"
>mfw
>>316208208
Wait, don't you need power armor training to wear power armor?
hey, hey guyscoc qasmokecoc [location]ext
So is there any reason to get non power armour in this game?
>>316214992
no you need semi-rare fusion cores to power it though. they last about 10 minutes each and so far I've found about 1 every hour or more so..
>>316214992
>>316215150
Also your character is pre-war ex-military so it's believable he could have gotten power armor training then.
>>316214992
Just hop in to AWESOME
>>316214958
You must have had a really shitty character, the best guns in the game are sold by the very guys who give you that quest.
>>316208208
>you get all your powers literally 30 seconds into the game
>>316215150
wait wait wait, so you get your power armor early but you can only use it for a limited amount of time?
That's a shitty mechanic
>>316214357
Wasn't that just one mother and and her babies?
It's slightly difficult, but you should have better weapons by then.
The real problem is when you run in to a couple adults in tight spaces. Then it's all knockdowns.
>>316215089
Aesthetics
But of course the power armor is still more attractive
Can you power armor in your inventory or do you have to move it by walking in it?
>>316215236
The male
Female just has a degree in law. Weird, considering I have 1 intelligence. Its actually pretty hilarious you have to hand it to them, bethesda shits the bed with the "role playing" part of the game right out of the gait, within minutes. Amazing
Is it even possible to do a stealth run in this game?
>>316208208
It's worse than you think OP. You literally point the minigun at its face and hold M1 and it will repeatedly try to "dodge" your attacks and never attack you.
This sequence was literally shown months ago and you're just now complaining about it?
>>316215653
It's possible, but the perk system is so fucked up it's almost not worth it. tgm + Fat Man is more fun anyway
>>316215653
probably is OP like in Skyrim
>>316215734
You're missing the point. Its one of the first sequences in the game.
Are there any other vaults to explore besides 111? I can't find any
>>316215674
Considering it killed me, what you just said is bullshit.
>>316216042
backpeddle towards the building with the people in it. The cowboy guy with the laser rifle will start firing at it too from the balcony
>>316214986
I was kinda peeved there was no option to tell him I already had power armor. I just wanted to see his reaction.
>mfw lone wanderer has power armor
>mfw abuse of technology
>>316216042
Oh right. You have to backpedal too.
I literally killed it with S+M1.
>>316216132
I already killed it, the point is that it does attack you.
>>316208774
Yeah holy shit. I was thinking about picking this up Friday. Fuck that. I'll wait and see if Obsidian gets another go at Fallout.
>>316208208
WHY DO YOU NEED FUEL FOR IT
>>316216371
because its a vehicle. Like the original concept for it intended it to be.
>>316209728
>I agree, and they even forced you to do training to use it effectively.
no they didn't
In Fallout 2 you can get the power armour as soon as you leave arroyo if your speech is high enough and you can get past the Enclave patrols
Keyword "can". Something Bethesda doesn't understand, since they make shit mandatory quest objectives.
Bethesda PR did it again, they showed whole game in one presentation video and people believed there was more.But there is nothing NOTHING
>>316211537
I killed him on Survival with 350 bullets to spare. Git gud.
>>316216042
i got killed by it too
wasted most of the ammo spraying at raiders from the roof then jumped down for body looting time and got my shit wrecked
> I want to wait till the end of the game to have fun
>>316211945
you fight a deathclaw fairly early in 1, and you can run across them in packs by level 6 or something in 2
Obviously you're not going to have an easy time on your hands, but you can still meet them. There were "lesser" versions in Fallout 2 that died pretty easily as well, but the real ones with 350HP would fuck your shit up if one ever saw you.
>>316212851
I love how in the original movies luke wasn't deflecting blasters left and right and Han even mentioned that he'd have a blaster over a lightsaber any day.
>>316217209
>deathclaw fairly early in 1
yea, but in 1 fairly early means 6 hours into the game.
>>316216007
Wait, there aren't any other vaults out there? Can anyone confirm finding another explorable vault?
>>316214159
>Deathclaws are supposed to be nigh-unstoppable murder machines that no sane person would even think about going near, much less fighting.
wrong, deathclaws are supposed to be mutated animals enhanced by FEV
They're still animals that die fairly easily when you get the chance to shoot them in the eyes, they're by no means meant to be unstoppable.
Strong and scary as fuck, yes, but not endgame enemies. Any random wanker with an energy weapon could wipe the floor with deathclaws in the first two games unless they swarmed you.
>>316217376
there obviously are, companion sheet confirmed it.
>>316214958
>get plasma rifle
>shoot them in the eyes from 300km away
for the matriarch fight
>get plasma rifle
>shoot it in the eyes
>>316208208
Guys I just built that teleporter thingy how much longer do I have with the main storyline?
The thing I hate the most about the intro and the game overall is Mama Murphy.
>I HAVE "THE SIGHT"
>I HAVE HAD IT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER
>YOU HAVE A POWERFUL AURA
>I SEE [vague description of a deathclaw] IN YOUR FUTURE...
I bet they decided to have her powers be activated with drugs as a crappy attempt to establish an ethical dilemma.
Codsworth master race
>>316217324
The hub is that far away?
Shady Sands -> Vault 15 -> Raider Camp -> Junktown -> Hub -> Necropolis -> Hub
I don't remember spending more than 3 hours on it.
>>316212075
it's padded in the middle
Like >>316210035 and
>>316210147 pointed out the power source dies in like 10 mins after wich its kinda useless why are people so upset about it if you cant even use it at the start? (Besides that quest) i just hope they make the fusion cells rare
> inb4 2nd quest you have to find a storage place for fusion cells protected by deathclaws
>>316209626
heaven forbid they use a different design doc for a different game 20 years later
>>316215674
It attacked me several times. I tried backpedaling while shooting and it fucking lunged at me.
the beginning of FO4 is seriously some of the most contrived story telling imaginable
literally seconds before the announcement of the bombs dropping some guy comes right to your house to tell you about the vaults
then for some reason the vault is conveniently located not even like a quarter mile outside your house in the woods not even connected to any streets
then the actual bomb drops again within seconds of you going into the vault
like really Bethesda?
really?
Im actually playing fallout 2 for the first time.
Im an hour and a half in and I dont even have a gun!
>>316208208
You get also second power armor, minigun and fatman on way to next objective.
Isn't this done for many games?
"A Taste of Power"
Give you ultra strong character and equipment at the very beginning of the game to give you a preview of what you're store for.
Prototype, Final Fantasy XII and Metroid did it to name a few.
>>316218352
Metroid doesn't let you keep the minigun
>>316217925
Played about 6 hours I think and have a total of 5 fusion cells. They're not rare to find. You can pretty much go into huge buildings and probably find one in the basement. After destroying one of those huge robots(the ones that roll on a triangular base and have a cage sorta face), I scavenged 2 cells from it. Kinda embarrassing to forget the name. Anyway, the cells last quite a while. Way longer than 10 minutes, that's for sure. I noticed the cell drains when you're running, can't tell if it drains when walking or stationary. Spent 30 minutes in the first cell you get in the beginning.
Also since you can fast travel with it on and not lose any energy, you can pretty much discover a place and go back for your armor to clear it.
>>316217662
p-please respond
>>316214958
If you're build isn't shit, all you have to do is hit it in the eyes.
I was unarmed build, and my encounters with FO1's Death Claws was just punching it in the eyes until it died.
>>316209781
>>316210138
You have to make your own. Why do you think they put all of that minecraft shit in the game? You have to finish building the world for them.
>>316218489
You won't find any ammo for it until level 15+ so it's basically just dead weight.
>>316218181
Somethings people are missing. Vault Tec knew the bombs were going to drop. They planned for these vaults and experiments for a long time before acting on them. In fact, the "salesman" seemed very anxious to get you signed up THAT day, THAT moment, and was nervous, as if he knew for a fact that bombs were going to drop any moment. Vault Tec higher ups most likely planned locations very precisely.
Try telling the salesman "No" for signing up, and you'll see him get very nervous about not getting you signed up.
>>316218046
bethesda can't make good games
>>316218181
>like really Bethesda?
>really?
ever notice how james bond never takes a shit? in any of the james bond movies? how do you explain that?
really, universal pictures? really?
I'm looking forward to the inevitable 40k mods for power armor. I think they'll work a lot better in FO4 than they did in 3/NV with how much chunkier it looks.
>>316214357
>Super mutants are supposed to be a much bigger threat
I do believe this nigger is talking out of his ass
Why do the enemies spawn when you enter a base or building? It's fucking annoying entering an empty camp and some guy nuking you out of nowhere.
>>316218352
>>316218489
The mini-gun is not the strongest gun in the game. In fact, they give you a weapon that's considered to be so powerful in previous games, to show that it's just tip of the ice berg in terms of strength. Legendaries and modded weapons far out shine the Mini-gun in FO4.
It's more like a "Remember how powerful this shit was in previous games? Well you haven't seen anything yet."
The Power Armor, in the mean time, is a long term project of upgrading and leveling up in order to use efficiently.
>>316211945
>Remember how you actually had to think if you wanted to risk it or not?
Nope. Punch them in the eyes. Keep punching them in the eyes. Never stop.
>>316218194
>Im an hour and a half in and I dont even have a gun!
>not making a beeline for the pipe rifle
>2015
>>316218717
alright
>>316218702
Funny how they didn't let the salesman in? Only specific key people..... I smell a conspiracy.
>>316218721
Absolutely nowhere near the same thing.
>>316218647
>F1 Unarmed build
>not 10 AP1 power fists a turn
anon plz
>>316218906
Where is it? I legitimately know nothing about this game. Played through 1 a while ago, and know bits about the plot from NV, but I haven't looked at any guides or anything.
>>316218908
I have a theory that the people behind Vault Tec were the ones behind the bombings. Either by careful manipulation, or flat out the ones that got the launch codes.
>>316218941
what
Using the powerfist is what I meant.
I didn't have 10 AP1 power fists a turn. I had like two AP4 attacks a turn. What were you doing or exploiting to get 10 attacks per turn?
>>316218721
He takes shits on women's chests when he sleeps with them. That's why when they're finished you always see the women covering their chests with blankets and sheets.
>>316218096
Aim better then. I backpedaled and tapped the trigger at its face and it kept trying to weave left and right to avoid my shots and never got close.
>>316210180
>Fallout 4 power armor is essentially a walking tank.
Blah blah. You know what? Power Armor in Fallout 1 & 2 was essentially a walking tank as well. This shit isn't new. They were made pre-nuclear holocaust to replace tanks with heavily armed infantry. They also had self-sustaining mini fusion reactors because a combat fighter who can stay in action for sub 20 minutes before running out of fuel would be absolutely useless.
>>316218774
I do believe you've never played Fallout
>>316218991
Well, the game tells you to look for Vic. So you should ask around in Klamath to see where Vic lives.
>>316219096
I aimed directly at it's face and it's health was constantly dropping. It never tried to dodge and just kept running straight at me. I had to hide in one of the side houses my second attempt, and even then I ran out of ammo before I killed it.
>>316219140
Gotcha, got distracted from that by some side quest. Thanks for the tip.
is there anyway to copy/paste stuff into the console commands? its my first playthrough
>>316219113
Tank as in useless once it runs out of fuel. Power armour isn't supposed to run out of fuel unless the fusion core is damaged somehow.
Despite the ease of getting it, it kind of makes sense you can use it. Your guy was in the army and shit wasn't he? Also I much prefer how the power armour works now vs how it worked in NV/FO3.
It feels much more useful, the UI is pretty cool and it has nice sound effects and visual effects (crushing stuff, bullets pinging off you etc.)
If it wasn't for the fact that you get it 1 hour into the game I'd say it's the best power armour delivery in the franchise.
How much lolsorandum "humor" is there in this game?
>>316219260
>Your guy was in the army and shit wasn't he?
Unless you're playing as the wife who has a law degree even if you only give her 1 INT.
>>316219312
affirmative action?
>>316219312
Her husband taught her all that army shit
>>316219260
>Your guy was in the army
Unless you play as a female, but he wasn't in a power armored regiment.
>vs how it worked in NV
NV Power Armor was much better than F4.
>>316219271
The game takes itself pretty seriously with lot's of melodrama.
It's more cringe-worthy dialogue than quirky humour so far.
>running around in the vault outfit
>guy asks me where I'm from
>lie and say I'm not from a vault
>he believes me and doesn't inquire further at all
>change out of the vault outfit into generic looter armor with a full face mask
>random fucking reporter lady immediately guesses that I'm from a vault
what the fuck is this shit
>>you get power armor 10 minutes in the game
Just like Fallout 2
>>316208478
You get to join the Brotherhood of Steel after about 40 minutes of playing the game and doing 1 mission menial task with one of them.
>>316208208
>Game gets power armor right
>Game ads customizable weapons
>Game adds settlement construction
>Fucks up literally everything else
Bethesda, I want to give you my money but you're making this hard...
>>316219439
Bad writing and forced story situations due to voice acting.
>>316219418
That could be better or worse depending on how extreme it is.
>>316219380
>>316219380
Yeah, he wasn't in the power armour regiment, but it makes more sense that he'd at least have a better theoretical understanding than your average joe.
How do you think FONV power armour was better?I don't think I ever actually went that route, I always go pistol/unarmed.
>>316219454
>after reading where exactly it is and how to get it
wow, it's fucking nothing
>>316216198
He doesn't react at all if you just straight walk up to him in power armor like I did.
These people are fucking retarded can't be said enough.
Even the trailer made it look like you would spend like half the game trying to find the parts you need to build the power armour like it would be a struggle or a main quest line.
Nope, let's just hand out everything straight a way for our 12 year old fans.
Fuck this shit. I'll wait till some dedicated mod squad has made this game playable.
>>316210413
So far I found 2 power armor 6 hours into the game. The first from the mission obviously and the second was conveniently placed before reaching a place that had a tough enemy. I'm surprised the enemy scaling isn't shit. It had a skull next to its health bar. Was only able to beat it because I realized it doesn't move until you get near it. Like 300 mini gun bullets only got it to near half health lol.
>>316219508
things really went to hell in a hogcart for the eastern brotherhood after '77
>>316219216
Oh, ok. So do all the Power Armor have broken fusion cores? Or is Bethesda holding out on a working one with some DLC?
>>316214207
One guy managed in the post your character thread.
>>316219665
No, now all cores just last for thirty minutes.
>>316219665
>>316219730
It's like Mass Effect all over again.
>we replaced all the guns in the universe with ones that use these shitty thermal clips
>>316219650
>>316219508
>do the first quest with the Brotherhood
>act pretty disrespectful to the guy and even barter for more money and he writes me off as just another merc
>during the quest I just stand around the corner and let the Brotherhood guy do all the work because lolNPCsareinvincible
>after the quest he gives me his weapon for my "bravery" and I act disrespectful like it isn't much of a reward
>He then invites me to join the Brotherhood because of "honor I displayed as a soldier"
fucking Bethesda man
>>316219034
I honestly think vault tec dropped the nukes so they could run their social experiments. I mean it just makes sense.
Only way people want to go in to the vaults is if they have no option
>>316219829
Oh I should also add that my character doesn't even know what the fuck the Brotherhood is because he's from before the war, and as far as I can tell there weren't any dialogue options that really explained it to him in-depth.
You just roll with it.
>>316219059
It's just a dumb fun build.
Agility 9 base (+1 Implants to 10 later)
Perk: Bonus HtH Attacks (lvl6)
Trait: Fast Shot
The perk/trait combo takes the 3AP PFist to 1AP unaimed. You can't punch eyes/dicks anymore, but dem sweet kenshiro combos make up for it.
>>316219829
what if you get invited to the brotherhood because your son is pulling strings
It really would make sense since nothing you do affects the progress of the story at all.
Pretty sure in F1 and 2 it states that the power cores in Power armor can keep them running for like 300 years or some shit.
Every fucking fallout until F4 lets you run around in power armor indefinatley.
GG beth
>>316208478
The game just gives you all the main mechanics during the early missions, then lets you do what you want, so it's important that you get the power armor.
You can't use it all the time early game anyways, I use it for city expeditions.
The biggest problem with the pacing is the minigun you get in the same mission, but most of the players use most of the bullets in the deathclaw fight anyways
>>316219439
she does point out the pip boy senpai
>>316219380
>NV Power Armor was much better than F4.
what? how? it worked like any other armour as opposed to fo4 where it actually feels like a vehicle
did they ever give any sort of even ~barely~ legit reason as to why the modkit wont be out until 2016? why not on release?
i think with mods this game will be passable, right now its fucking awful and i want to like it :(
>>316219835
that would be really stupid if they did
like really really really stupid
>>316219889
Oh, shit, I forgot fast shot works for non-guns in FO1 as long as the weapon is one handed.
Didn't they fix/change that in 2? It's been a while since I played either of them.
>>316219835
According to a fallout 1 movie that got cancelled, that's what happened.
Is it true that there's no moral choices anymore? Do you just do whatever the NPCs ask you to do?
Did they really make an rpg with no actual rpg part in it?
>>316209626
You can actually get power armor early in Fallout 2, but you're not likely to just stumble on it, rather you need advance knowledge of it and have the right skills to sneak & thieve your way into the base. I don't remember if it was the Enclave or Brotherhood's base.
>>316215013
huh?
>>316215013
thanks family
i'm so tempted. but i need to resist.
>>316220006
>Do you just do whatever the NPCs ask you to do?
Pretty much. They killed the dialogue hard. The only real solution to quests now is just killing shit. Trying to talk your way to a different solution isn't viable.
>>316219418
So no vampires or a town that exists solely for a super villain and super hero to fight in?
>>316211979
The first parts of the game are really shitty though.
The minutemen missions are made as introduction missions that just throw features at you one after another, so it feels really rushed.
But after some of those, it just throws you to the wasteland, and the game really picks off
>>316219962
Because the game is a mess
>>316208208
The Deathclaw might just have the worst AI they ever had in a Fallout game too.
https://youtu.be/vr6eAN3_604?t=84
Even in 3 they were more threatening.
>>316219914
everyone in boston is just retarded lore fixed
>>316220006
They didn't make an rpg anon.
>>316208208
That sounds like a fucking disappointment.
Why does Bethesda keep doing un-fallout things in a Fallout game?
I mean, jesus Fallout 3 was a way better FO game than FO4.
>>316219973
Pretty sure they fixed it in F2 sadly.
Mega Power Fist x10 would be too good
>>316219556
Higher tier power armor in NV makes you near-invincible to anything short of anti-armor weapons (which is what it should be).
>>316220229
It's like they made the A.I just for the fight before the power armor vs deathclaw
it works fine aslong as they're running straight at you in a long line, running from cover to cover. But nothing else works
What is survival mode?
>Skyrim comes out
>some gripes here and there, mostly related to the console HUD, but overall a massive success that drew in countless people and did many things right
>Fallout 4 comes out
>not just on /v/, but everywhere it seems as though the general consensus is "where's all the shit I liked from New Vegas? This isn't a real RPG/Fallout game"
>Fallout 4 out-Skyrims Skyrim by dumbing down the dialogue system to the point of just being insulting
>deathclaws and Power Armor, both things associated to high-level gameplay in previous games, are handed to you as soon as possible
>at the rate Bethesda is going, Daedric armor in the new Elder Scrolls will be handed down from your great uncle ruckus from the civil war because Bethesda loves protagonist backstories, and the dialogue system will be a like/unlike binary system
>the game embraces the shooter side of things way too much, to the point of dulled out or non-existent RPG elements
>Fallout 4 is the Invisible War of Fallout
I wasn't expecting New Vegas 2, but I'm still surprised how out-of-touch Bethesda feels with this game.
>>316220389
the same as any other mode in a beth game, roided out health and damage enemies
>>316220309
That's pretty shitty criticism.
>un-fallout things
How fucking retarded. What do you exactly mean by this?
>>316209465
Is that D&D? That looks fucking neat.
I'd love to try a game of D&D once but I have no friends that are interested.
>>316220309
Some reviewer said it best "Fallout 4 is no longer an FPSRPG, it's an open world action game with RPG elements. Aslong as you play expecting an open world action game, it's a very good game."
Fallout has been butchered for ages, it's time to accept it for what it is.
Every minute since launch has made me more and more glad I didn't pick this up day one. Probably not going to touch it all unless I pick it up for dirt cheap
>>316220369
>it works fine aslong as they're running straight at you in a long line
Really? Because as that video shows, I shot at it while it ran at me but then it just suddenly decided to walk around everything even though there was enough space for it to keep going in a straight line.
Why is this game so fucking boring
how do I spawn a power armor stand inside my house at Diamond City?
>>316220441
It's not an first person RPG, it's an action game with RPG elements. It's still gonna sell decent, and that's how the series is gonna be from here on out
>>316219962
It takes time to roll out paid mods. That, or they're busy making the tools completely fucking shit in the name of "parity with consoles".
>>316219914
Yeah, it also doesn't make any sense from a physics standpoint. I mean, I know that lot of the fallout universe is an intentional misrepresentation of nuclear physics but this one doesn't even fit the theme they have going.
The fusion cores you put in the Power armor to power the suits for such a small amount of time would either have to contain so little fusion material that the actual size of the core doesn't make any sense at all or it releases so much energy in such a short amount of time that you and the suit would literally melt. I guess the other option is that in fallout 4 universe fusion produces jack shit energy... but that also doesn't fit in with the theme because why then would their societie be based on it.
I actually missed both that thing and the minigun. As soon as I walked out and find the building the motherfucker spawned and I killed it. Then talked to Preston and the quest was completed. Doesn't matter because I quit playing a few hours after.
>>316220580
Because you don't like it? Honestly just stop playing.
>>316220525
Where? All I see is indoor fighting with no straight, long lines and the deathclaw fight
>reading all the negative user reviews on metacritic
>obviously faggots from /v/ because they keep spewing out their memes
Fuck this place.
>>316218903
>10 strength
RIP AND TEAR!!
>why don't they lock the fun?
>I want to spend hours killing rats in a cave before getting real action
>omg they ruined it
>>316220580
Because you started playing it with that attitude the /v/ bandwagon gave you
>>316220482
>Roided out health and damage enemies
That's only half-true. On Survival enemies do lots of damage, but they don't have bugger health pools. If they did I wouldn't be pistol-whipping raiders with two strength in 4 shots.
I feel it's more like Metro's hard difficulty.
>B-But muh Deathclaw fight
That was a legendary dnd-game Deathclaw that you were forced to fight with a shitty-ass minigun, with no perks to back up that particular type of weapon.
>mfw NUCLEAR-STORMS OUT OF NO WHERE
i hate it.
>>316220830
>hours
i know you're baiting, but come on guy, it takes like 10-15 mins tops
>>316220830
>I don't know what rising action is
>>316220751
See 1:28
It was running up to me but then just suddenly walks around everything to get to me without any good reason to do so.
>>316220830
Its about the journey you fucking instant gratification seeking faggot
>>316210820
notice that while he walked across the entire map in 10 minutes, he didn't even encounter a single enemy
>>316220826
There's people saying the combat is worse than 3
Do some people actually think so?
The AI is shit, but the combat is way better than NV and 3
>get power armor
>park it in power armor rack in sanctuary
>get some shit done
>come back to sanctuary to find it's missing
uninstalled right after. What kinda shit game is this?
>>316220830
I'm enjoying the game so far but I agree. Getting overpowered armor and a weapon so early in the game ruins the pacing. If there was big buildup towards getting it it'd be better.
>>316219962
The game's code is fucked like>>316220213 said which is what the ENB creator said after looking at the code. Don't bother thinking about project nevada stuff, it will be difficult doing anything.
>>316208478
You get shitty damaged power armor early on as a teaser for the advanced armor options and mods you will access later on.
>>316208208
I agree but
>!
Back to reddit.
>>316220510
I'm guessing it's Warhammer? I have no idea how this works but I'm super interested now, that board is awesome.
>>316220997
why do you feel the need to go on the internet and tell lies?
>>316220952
And the game still picks up after the minutemen missions. The power armor is an important gameplay element that they have to introduce at the start, because so many things revolve around it.
The only way you lose the pacing is if you somehow keep all your minigun ammo
>>316220493
>bait
Anyway, you obviously have not played any FO game.
>>316220515
But I thought FO3 was a fun, nice FO game. What went wrong I wonder?
>>316220997
try looking for a very long limbed npc, they get in the power armour and absorb it.
>>316220947
Too bad I wasn't talking about beast AI
>>316220997
you have to take the core out otherwise an npc will take it
I was hoping that getting power armor was going to be a long process of finding parts for it all over the map. Thanks for letting me down again Bethesda
There's still radio stations playing old music like in 3 and NV right?
>>316218587
>Also since you can fast travel with it on and not lose any energy
What the hell's the point in it draining at all if fast travel just negates energy consumption
>>316211893
>all memeing aside
>heavy memeing ensues
>>316220119
>>316220278
That's really sad
>>316221179
yeah
>>316221081
>you obviously havent played any FO game
you obviously haven't realized that the old Fallout is dead. Fallout 3 is what defines a fallout game now. Or well, before 4 changed it up
>>316215653
Ive been doing it. Its pretty fucking difficult though but thats probably because im wearing no armor, just a suit while on survival. Once you get a silenced pipe gun it becomes tolerable. Ghouls are the toughest enemies because they love to run super fast then do that lightning speed tackle, so carry mines and grenades.
>>316209465
enjoy buying those stormcast eternals friend :^)
>>316221159
Do they then venture forth and complete the main quest?
>>316221264
nah they just disappear with it
>>316221149
Oh
Maybe you could've clarified that better, then. Or maybe I'm an idiot.
>>316221228
Ok, that's good to know
>>316221161
That's such a boring, grindy way. Atleast take it from the Paladin dude after he gets fatally hit and gifts you the armor so you can kill all the synths surrounding you
>>316220640
>>316219914
This kinda makes you wonder how they rationalize Codsworth and other robots remaining functional for 200+ years when they run on smaller versions of the same fusion cells.
>Todd's face
>>316216313
who do you think your kidding?
>>316221238
>old FO is dead
I would play a isometric FO game. It's called FO5. I'm waiting on it right now.
>>316221297
I did mention the fight before the deathclaw fight, AKA the one where all the dudes run down the street and you gun them down
>>316220510
It'a Warhammer
More specifically Warhammer fantasy with what looks like vampire counts vs. Chaos demons, but it's like of hard to tell.
>>316221317
At least it gives the player a sense of progression and theres the exciting build up of getting to use a walking tank. Besides, its fun to explore places for a single item that is part of a larger piece. Well as long as its a detailed quest and not "follow this arrow"
>>316208478
Anon ... I'm sorry
>>316208774
Np, just pirate and mod it in six month's time. Sex mods and stuff.
>>316213248
>Gone are the times where you shat your pants with the sight of a Deathclaw.
Are you kidding me? The whole point of the deathclaw showing up is to demonstrate how they will fuck your shit up, even if you are wearing power armor and armed with a minigun.
>>316220874
As one of those guys that must always walk around at full HP in games (and zero rads in Fallout) that one drives me nuts.
>>316221357
Myself. Obsidian will never get another Fallout game to work on ;_;
>>316221191
Exactly. I was expecting it to drain the rest of the cell out since I had like around 10% left. Nope, it drains literally nothing. That on top of the cells not being hard to find and it's just ridiculous. It's pretty much any other apparel item for me now... It just takes a while to equip.
they could've made enclave armor look a lot cooler
>>316221375
Yeah but I didn't quite understand what you meant there.
In that part, the AI was fine, I agree. In the rest of the game it just... I dunno, it's just so broken. There's always this awkward pause between you getting in the line of sight of an enemy and the enemy actually trying to harm you. Sometimes it doesn't react at all.
>>316221598
Why is it so tan?
>>316213307
You're memeing so hard that you've convinced yourself game devs are actively working to spoil your fun. Sorry anon, it's just that games are made to appeal to a broad audience now.
Time isn't going to reverse back to the late 90s and early 00s when gaming was mainly for autists and the Japanese. Might as well mature a little bit and adjust your expectations. :^)
>>316209626
>fallout 1/2
>makes you feel badass after 30 hours of gameplay
>fallout 4
>makes you feel badass after 10 minutes of playing
Looks like Bethesda wins again
>>316221598
Call me odd but I think that looks rad as fuck. All it needs is a paint job.
>This disgusting and awful base building system
Oh my fucking God it's so bad. Did literally no one test this out?
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NOT LOOK TO HALO FORGE MODE FOR REFERENCE ON HOW TO DO THIS KIND OF SHIT, JESUS GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING CHRIST.
It's so fucking bad I can't take it.
>>316221598
Why is it already all rusty and shit?
>>316221752
I thought it was meh
What's so bad about it?
>>316221709
>game devs are actively working to spoil your fun
They might as well be since they don't know how to design good games.
>>316221752
>HALO FORGE MODE
I'd rather use garry's mod
>>316221598
they ruined enclave armor and the gatling laser.
what else is next
are there really no alternate ammo types?
>>316218717
this is the truth
>>316214074
but there is a siege mechanic, your settlements can get attacked by both raiders and super mutants (higher risk of that occurring if you have less Defense than Food + Water)
it's pretty easy to cheese though, just make certain that all your enemies can only funnel through a small corridor and set a shitload of turrets to watch that
>>316221838
>they don't know how to design good games
You say this, but here we are filling up thread after thread about their "shitty" games. Maybe it's like I said and you are upset that games aren't designed specifically for us anymore.
D-do they at least make you take some power armor training before they shove you into the suit so you dont kil yourself or break your legs trying to take your frist steps in it?
>>316221712
Didn't make me feel badass. Only thing about the power armor that was badass was the huge thundering sound it makes when you jumped off the building. To me it felt like any other fps game where you get the tank or the awesome whatever and clear out all the bad guys and save the day. Also I could've sworn I saw a trailer where the power armor has a jet pack.
>>316210138
Holy fuck are you autistic?
>>316221929
do you really care about it that much
in new vegas you were LITERALLY the only person that used custom ammo
it didn't make any sense at all
>>316221995
nig of course not
>>316222001
i'm pretty sure it's a mod you can craft
>>316220758
AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEERICAAAAAA LAAAAAND OF THE FREEEEEEE
>>316221827
>Only usable in first person mode and it's inaccurate as fuck
>It can't be used in some sort of hover mode or even third person
>Most of everything you place will float awkwardly in the air because the pieces don't clip through the ground, and trying to get specific pieces to stick to each other is a fucking nightmare, and it doesn't help that because of the first person perspective, you're bound to misplace something
>Generally frustrating as hell
>>316221871
I used it as an example because Fallout 4 was clearly made for consoles.
>>316221995
>>316222078
Power armor training is not canon.
source: fallout 1, 2
>First quest gives you power armor and a minigun
>Dump both and go around in a fancy suit using a laser musket
Being fabulous is more important than surviving.
>>316219914
ok but like maybe cuz the main dudebro was in stasis for like 220 years or someshit and most cores you find are off generators being in use It kinda makes sense they only last a little bit to power a fucking mech
>>316221709
>gaming was mainly for autists and the Japanese
That would be nowaday. Fanservice games completely flood the Japanese market and most games are ultra simplistic and prevent all kind of frustration at all cost, which is pretty much what you do when you're addressing an autist.
>>316221995
Your character by default has experience in the Army, so muh-lore fags at least have a reason for your character to know how to drive Power Armor.
>first mod to be made will be unlimited fule for power armor
>beth is getting anally ravaged over this idea because they wanted to have that be something "special" in a DLC
>>316222127
>using 20 year old games as a source
Power armor training is canon.
Source: Fallout 3
>>316217662
>>316218607
I just did the main story and it took me about 23 hours to beat the game. Hope that helps.
>>316222127
It should be. Power Armor training is a sensible idea.
>>316221752
The snapping feature needs to die in a fire. I got shit snapping together halfway into the terrain, constantly. Definitely not streamlined for building anything large or natural looking.
>>316219312
There are plenty of retards in my law classes, so that's actually fairly accurate.
>>316222190
the wimmin doesn't though
>>316222190
so he taught his wife?
>>316222237
in fallout 3 you could get power armor training lvl 1 with operation anchorage
I'm almost insulted at how small the map is
>>316222310
The backstory is that you were both soldiers during the period of strife leading to the apocalypse.
>>316210723
>>316210917
>Reloading minigun still isn't actually reloading it, just ejecting and inserting the same barrel
I am still shocked to find that people are still surprised by how shit this game out, when all the clues of the devs incompetence were readily apparent from the very first trailer.
Nobody listened. Nobody believed. Just the ramblings of an autistic manchild. Well.
>Wandering around a boring and dull grey and brown wasteland with literally nothing interesting happening
You know, at least Skyrim had the occasional "dragon" pop up every so often, but this? Jesus Christ, I'm struggling not to die from sheer boredom alone. Literally nothing interesting happens, and the scenery is just unpleasant to look at. I know it's a post-apocalyptic nuclear fallout, but still.
>>316221198
>not buying the game is memeing
My torrent software is memeing Fallout4 real hard right now
>Find power armor and minigun
>Use it to complete retarded quest
>throw it away in my town
Okay, phew, I can get over this.
>next quest
>go fight some bandits
>one uses a fat man (and somewhere along the way just happened to have one mini-nuke)
>power armor
>minigun
>fat man
>haven't even found any other real guns yet besides a shotgun among all the other baby's first gun the infinite bandits drop
fug
>have to follow dogmeat somewhere
>2 deathclaws in the way
>mfw
>>316222330
>>316222459
go play call of duty you retard
this is how fallout has always been, ever since the first fallout
enjoy it or leave
>>316221752
>to store or recycle I need to hit ENTER every time
>need to use arrow keys go over inventory
>need to press E to create something, but E is also the key you need to press to move something in front of you
>literally EVERYTHING about the snapping feature being ridiculously shit
>no clipping allowed, no grid allowed, no nothing
who fucking ok'd this
>>316222582
>I-It's supposed to be shit..!
>>316222595
this is literally all wrong
did you even play the game
>playing survival
>first few animals and shit die in a few whacks with a baton, I take fairly high damage too, huh it's like high risk, high reward mode, nice
>explore a bit
>find a raider
>dump 5 rounds in his no armour chest
>barely no damage
>he turns around and two shots me
Oh.
>>316210147
>power armor
>it can break
>power armor
>breaking ever
>power
>armor
>needing repairs
I hate todd
>>316210964
So leave your power armor you pussy. Why would you ruin the experience just because they let you have it. Work on upgrading you're armor for when you really need it if you're getting your ass handed to you. I ditched that shit as soon as the fight was over.
>>316218975
Small scale purifiers are not the same as large scale.
>>316222315
>>316222310
When you start as a female character, is it still your husband that just got back from the Army? I have only played male. If so, then yeah they fucked the lore there.
It's nice they don't have to explain why you are proficient with firearms and good in a fight with the Pre-War army beginning.
>>316222548
Let me make this fucking clear. Because of the new Legendary weapon system, and modding, these once powerful end game weapons are no longer the strongest in the game, and weapons you mod or legendaries you find will far out shine them. They throw these things at you early on, so you can see how powerful they were, and how they compare to the new loot.
>>316222671
>expecting Bethesda to make higher difficulties actually good
You have only yourself to blame.
>>316210140
but do you lose it? or does it spawn back in the thing like in the menu/trailer? or do you have to carry it there or something?
>>316222663
if you think it's shit don't play it. the thing a lot of people would disagree with you.
Good people that have been playing fallout for a long time. And some bad people whose first game was Fallout 3.
>>316212213
vatsfag reporting for duty
even tho I spent most of my life playing quake and counter strike every time I played F3/NV I kept using this thing, simply because I liked this as turn based mechanic, and secondly because real time shooting mechanics felt really wonky for me
>>316208794
Ive seen a lot of reviers criticise it for being useless.
Why do so many guns look like shit? I have to admit some look really good but theres so many that look horrible?
>>316211537
The Mirelurk was terrifying. Check out the museum of witchcraft if you haven't. I can't say I've had this many butthole puckering moments in a game in quite a while. Honorable mention for legendary rad roach.
>Aiming is clunky as fuck and can only hit shit with VATS
how those recommended settings treating you?
>>316210454
god I fucking hate that dog
>>316210919
>>316212127
He's baiting. Nice fall though.
>>316222849
Been that way since 3 really. New Vegas has the best combat of the series. Can't speak for 4 yet though
>wake up in vault after nuclear holocaust
>see baby stolen and wife shot while you're restrained
>leave the vault and see your entire world destroyed (within the space of about 5 minutes of fucking getting to the vault)
>see weird and wonderful monsters, skeletons everywhere
>barely give a shit and wander around picking up bottle caps (despite you having no way to know their significance yet)
Fallout 4 has the worst fallout start by a wide margin
>>316222716
that looks kinda cool
I want some iron man armor mods
>>316222838
Honorable mention for legendary rad roach.
First time I fought two of them at the same time on survival I felt my ass clentch for a second before it instantly deflated when I punched them twice and they died.
>>316222849
Are you using the pipe weaponry or something? You can damn near snipe with the 10mm iron sights if its long barreled.
>>316222548
I never even enjoyed the Fat Man when it was first introduced in FO3. It's too powerful and doesn't even make sense to even have available to the general public.
A single raider with a Fat Man can just take over a town, if you think about it even a little bit. This is a bad weapon and needs to never come again.
>>316221752
>Tear down the ruined house and think that the base will make a fine platform to build on
>Pieces only snap together, not with the base
>Pieces are too big to connect inside of the base
>Stuck in first person without being able to get a bird's eye view
>It's a fucking unplayable mess trying to actually build a house
I said fuck it and gave up on that, and then just slapped beds in the structures I couldn't tear down
>>316222907
>lens flare and motion blur on
What is wrong with you?
>>316210147
I have mine sitting on the power armor rack in sanctuary. I've pretty much wiped through the entire town like a detroit nigger deconstructing things so I can build my forts. I just hate the stupid wall placing lock ins.
>>316222907
7850 2GB and Phenom 2 X4 955, Running the game on Medium 50-60 fps
>>316222907
i like the way it looks
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzys08RqhjA&feature=youtu.be
>>316222681
They made power armor functionally closer to the lore version, and in doing so made it extremely powerful, so it needs a limiter. Fucking game design.
I totally prefer F4's power armor to fallout 3/nv. Mods will remove fusion cores eventually anyway, so wfc
>>316222907
the game sets it on ultra and sometimes drops to 45fps, but it has so much micro stuttering that it feels like 15
Anyone else actually like the way power armor works? It makes some kind of sense, anyway. New hud, it's a huge honkin' piece of honk, customizable parts, beautiful.
The only problem I have is how early it shows up. If it showed up at endgame with the exact same sequence where you just tear a minigun off a helicopter it would still be cheesy but at least it would be kind of a fuck yeah thing, especially if it wasn't the only option for that section. Right now it's just a turret section, and then you have this superweapon powered by exploration, but lasts entirely to long anyway.
>>316222405
Was it really that obvious? I try not be a cynical jackass at all times, so I came away feeling neutral.
Does this game even compare to 3 or NV? Does it at least give some similar feeling in regards to the characters and landscape? I guess I will find out in like 20 minutes when it is done downloading. There's no way to fuck up wandering the wastes with old timey music is there?
>>316221995
rip interplay goddamn that art is lovely
>>316223063
>Anyone else actually like the way power armor works?
No, it's a slow bulky piece of shit that basically says fuck you to how power armor canonically works
>>316221752
I know what you mean. I might give up base building all together.
>>316222937
I've literally did what you've done.
>>316208208
>>316208684
>>316208774
I have a hard time believing you're not going to buy the game purely because they give you power armor like an hour into the game that immediately becomes useless shortly afterward. Power armor that's given as a prelude to what's to come in the game, and what you'll need to survive.
>I mean before we had to get it mid/late in the game...and had to join a faction...and get training...and it weighed a lot...but we preferred that system...
Are people really expecting power armor to be this huge secret thing now? It's been an icon of the series for ages. The game lets you get a taste of what's to come and then tells you to use that power wisely because of how limited fusion cores are.
Literally just finding the tiniest fucking thing to justify being poorfags and pirating the game.
>>316221370
No, it's going to be either the same kind of action shit as 4, or just going back to the 3/NV formula.
I'm not saying the old FO games are bad, but Fallouts as isometric RPGs are long dead.
>>316221457
>Have to haul ass to each corner of the map to get a quest item
It takes the fun out of exploring, since you're forced to do it
anyone can tell me if game has some at least some of that off the roof content like sending ghouls on the rocket back to their homeworld in NV?
or betheshit just made skyrim reskin ?
Has anyone found a flamer? Are they any good?
>>316209626
You can get the best power armor in the game at level 1 in Fallout 2 - assuming you know where it is and built your character to get there.
>>316223137
A secret, no.
A decently hard-to-obtain armor with good pay-off for hard work, yes.
>>316218906
Get some real guns anon.
>>316223184
What is even your point here?
bro
>>316221037
It's okay if he uses them as emphasis for sarcasm. It's like you don't even know what "impact" is.
>>316218717
when has a bethesda game ever not been worth the money?
there's easily $45-60 worth of content in this game.
>>316223184
That's a little different to it literally being forced upon you on what, the third quest?
Is the Brotherhood of Steel proper cunts like they're supposed to be or are they reprising their shitty role from 3?
>>316222907
good brother
>>316223137
Isn't that the problem?
It's not a secret. Everyhone who's played a fallout game before knows about when and how Power Armor shows up.
But in FO4 it shows up in the first quest and you use it to fight another iconic Fallout enemy because they know if it was hidden the greasy casuals who bought it would all be posting on gamefaqs asking WHERE IS THE METROID SUIT?
>>316223137
>armor is supposed to be the apex of modern combat
>is supposed to run for a long period of time to the point that you dont need to take it off
>game shits on the lore and gives you a dumbed down version that can be found anywhere
>>316223240
>>316223265
I ain't defending Fallout 4, but that person was incorrect about Fallout 2.
>>316220510
Warhammer Age of Sigmar tabletop
it was a dead because Games workshop made it dead. But with Warhammer Total War. the interested was kinda renewed
>>316223201
Your good pay off is now is leveling up to use it more often without its limits and upgrading and customizing it to your liking throughout the game.
I was also surprised to see high level bandits using Power Armor so early in the game. I mean, it makes fucking sense. Why wouldn't some bandits get lucky enough to score some if their entire life has been plundering? If a vault dweller can get their hands on some with their small amount of time in the wasteland, it makes sense some raiders would too.
>>316222582
did neo-/v/ literally just pull the COD card? good fucking lord
>>316223267
They're right assholes; Danse, the guy you can quest for early on is so-so, but the main guys are definitely.
>>316214334
It IS in the game though you mouthbreather. Your settlements can come under attack from raiders 'n whatnot
>put game on hard because f3 and nv are easymode
>constantly fighting legendary enemies that just sponge every last bullet I have
Am I doing something wrong? I'm 15 hours into the game and really struggling bad against any enemy that turns into a legendary.
>go into a house or whatever
>loads of ghouls
>the awful framerate and shit gunplay make it ahrd to shoot them
>bad framerate translates into vats
>not fun
>kill them
>'the chosen one' legendary
>take out his legs and just pepper him with shots until he dies
>think 'christ i have no ammo or stimpacks left, that was hard'
>another legendary pops up
>then another legendary in the same room
>go outside
>another legendary
Is this just what hard mode entails or is the games combat pretty broken? I feel like I'm having to cheese so many enemies like I did in Skyrim.
>>316223359
Thank God Bethesda got that right this time.
>>316223181
I found one in the minuteman castle and used it to fry some mirelurks. it's pretty satisfying but hard to see when you're using it.
>>316223267
so far they're not as tech hungry as 1,2 and NV's but they aren't like the boyscouts in 3
>>316208208
> !
Fuck off
>>316220830
Someone post the Hardcore vs Casual picture, so this fucking moutbreather will learn how a good game should work.
>>316218975
You missed the part where the goal of Project Purity was to have a central purifier strong enough to eventually purify all of the water in the capital wasteland.
>>316223352
I'm not the autistic retard that wants endless action and no lulls in the game.
That's him.
>>316210393
>terrific atmosphere and world design
Did we play the same game?
>>316223267
Somewhere in the middle I think. They are trying to help people but in a self righteous "We shall cleanse the land of evil because we are the strongest" kind of way. Definitely can't change their way of thinking (being anti-synth in a story that can be very pro-synth).
>>316223401
Thanks man, are they heavy weapons or energy weapons
>>316223137
>implying they did because it makes sense
>implying they don't just pander to casuals wanting to be like the guy on the cover
This path leads to cancer
>>316208208
The game is an apology for Fallout 3. People saw the armor on the cover and wanted to know where it was in the game. They couldn't find anything better than handguns and destroyed rifles, and the only monsters to fight were ugly dogs and roaches.
People complained, and they fixed it.
>>316223324
Not him but ill explain, to find it you need to know actually what youre doing, On your first run youll never get it till actually mid/late game.
In FO4 its forced upon you.
>>316219287
During Microsoft's entire E3 conference exactly one jaw dropped.
>>316222907
>have 5 year old i5 650, 4GB RAM and GTX 960
>sets everything to Ultra
What a fucking lagfest the moment I got into Lexigntong.
I now use this and it runs at 40 FPS minimum.
From what i've read, the settings that impact FPS the most are Godrays and Shadow quality.
Also, have TAA on at all costs, unless you are at 20 FPS, FXAA doesn't do shit and the game looks pixelated as fuck.
>>316223475
That's retarded, though.
>>316223283
As someone with a good rig, this doesn't impress me. Literally what the fuck. Textures are way too muddy.
>>316223125
>canonically
But Bethesda owns the franchise, they say on whats canon
how many times do I need to do the repetitive brotherhood of steel quests before I get a promotion?
Why do you wake up in cryo just in time to see your wife get shot and your son kidnapped?
>>316223036
My main problem with power armor in the earlier games was that it was nothing more than late game armor.
There was absolutely nothing interesting about it at all and the armor values made the game trivial.
>>316208208
Is it just me, or are Deathclaws literally artificial difficulty? They are large as fuck, fast as fuck, hit for a fuckton, and have a fuck-huge range. Who thought this was a good enemy to have and why are there like 7 coming out of this cave?
>>316223434
Can you explain what makes you think it had neither of those things? I dont know if terrific is the right word, but I would say it definitely was impressive.
>>316217681
Yeah, fuck that whole thing. I hate how they're trying as hard as they can to make you believe it's a "legimitate" thing too. Fuck no, grannies just strung out on fucking chems, crazy bat. I wish I could construct an arena pit in my settlements where I could pit settlers I hated against eachother in fights to the death
>>316223508
I agree.
It doesn't explain why you get powerarmor and a minigun in the first five minutes of the game, then fight a Deathclaw.
>>316223526
You don't get promoted until you progress the main story... it'll make sense. Fuck those stupid side quests.
>>316223497
That's not the image I wanted to upload at all, nice work Hiroshima.
Anyway, here's the settings.
The view distance ones are all at half bar and the two options in medium.
>>316223529
If you actually played the game you'd know that they had to wake up all the dwellers.
There's a mission where you enter a memory pod so you can relive the memory of your husband/wife dying.
>>316223384
just play it on normal and wait for actual hard mode mods. bethesda thinks hard = enemies have more health and do more damage and that's it.
>>316223464
And so what if they did? Seriously, they give you that alucard moment, and then you're back to square one with the limits on fusion cores. This isn't revolutionary.
>I get a fun useful tool early on in the game. 0/10 hurr durr
>>316223539
POWER ARMOR!
USE IT
Logged 5 hours so far. First quest I cleared was Corvega. Definitely feeling the effect Skyrim had on their design styles with the super linear dungeons. Probably logged over 500 hours in Vew Vegas through all my playthroughs, and never finished 3 because it was dogshit. The differences between Obsidian and Bethesda really become apparent when you explore, but the game is still an easy 6, just a massive disappointment for what they hyped up.
>>316222582
Oh we would love to leave but it would seems like you wanted us to stay so you wouldn't be alone playing a shitty game.
Turn godrays to low.
That piece of shit kills the framerate.
>Power Armor is supposed to run for ages
>PA in 4 runs for few hours
>>316223063
I do. It handles pretty well and works how I would expect a suit of powered armor should.
It's certainly better than it was in the older games.
>>316220048
Enclave Air base. Secret tunnel at the gas station and you can grab one along with nades and a pulserifle.
But getting there is hard af and needs a lot of luck cause you encounter enclave patrouls and they one shot you (sometimes even with power armor)
Man, this settlement system would be fucking amazing if the game didn't limit roleplaying so much
>>316223539
Deathclaws should be overpowered tbf
They don't call em deathclaws for nothing
I'm 11 hours in and I can say for sure that Witcher 3 is a better game at least for me.
There's very little story anyways so the whole roleplaying/immersion argument just seems stupid. It's a sandbox exploration game not a roleplaying game.
I know by the time I'm done I'll be burned out just like in Witcher 3 but I clearly remember when I was 10 hours in Witcher 3 I couldn't put it down. This not so much.
>>316223724
Cells degrade after 200 years (((((
>>316223652
Power Armour doesn's mean jack shit when you've got 6 of these fuckers coming for your ass out of that fucking Cave in New Vegas.
>>316223538
Exactly. It's lame. The world hypes it up to be something awesome, and it just ends up being a bigger number. This time around, they made it functionally closer to how it's explained to work, instead of just being another suit of armor with a different texture.
>>316223680
>>316222663
>>316223352
WOW THIS MAP IS SO BIG! 10/10 GOTY
I'D RATHER HAVE A BIG MAP FILLED WITH NOTHING THAN A SMALL MAP WITH LOTS OF BUILDING
>>316208208
it's called "designing game around review scores". Gotta show all cool stuff fast, before reviewer stops playing. You can't risk them getting bored, tired or stuck
It was same with Skyrim, where MQ is just a crazy chase of foolproof setpieces to follow, because majority of reviewers will play only through it, before giving a score
>>316223098
>rip interplay
Interplay still exists and recently kickstarted a Descent prequel.
>>316223724
>These babys have enough fuel to last a few centuries!
>2 full centuries have passed
>They're all starting to run out
I seriously need to find a weapons merchant, I have like so fucking ammo.
Also what in the fuck is up with the pipe gun? Its design looks so stupid. Also the armor system confuses me, what pieces of clothing allow me to attach armor pieces to?
>>316223641
If you think getting armor that you don't even have to get in the previous games and when fighting random enemy you could ignore in all the other games just as in this one is okay when maybe you should play action games and not rpgs. This is not alucard intro
Are the controls as shitty as in NV/F3? I remember having to tweak ini files so that mouse controls would be perfect but it always ended up screwing something with the fps, vsync and other shit because of that awful gamebryo engine
>>316223814
>Using a map from a 1998 game.
Sasuga, /v/
>>316223680
>>316222663
>>316223352
WOW ANOTHER BIG MAP
ANOTHER 10 OUT OF FUCKING 10
WHAT AN AMAZING GAME
I LOVE HOW THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING IN BETWEEN SETTLEMENT
OH! WHAT'S THAT? ANOTHER CARAVAN? ANOTHER RAIDER PARTY? ANOTHER FORCED ENCLAVE CUTSCENE?
SIGN ME THE FUCK UP RIGHT THERE RIIIIIIGHT THERE THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT
>Tfw your just not having any fun at all
>>316223201
>good payoff
Don't be retarded. In the older Fallouts it's nothing more than just the next tier of armor with some stat bonuses.
It does absolutely nothing to change how combat works like piloting what is essentially a walking tank should.
>>316223950
man, take it easy.
>>316209529
yep. im at 9 hours in, basically using the same gear i got whithin 2 hours of game. levels/gears dont do shit, enemies are all the same
Is it just me or does the aiming feel terrible in first person? I swear I have to shoot in third person, the first person just seems harder to me.
Like I can't explain it, but it seems to be harder to aim in first person and hit.
>>316223814
>>316223950
Let me guess, you're one of those people that believed Todd and got burnt again, and might have even bought the Pipboy edition, and you can't accept that people with half a brain notice how bad the game is.
>>316223776
Interesting. I had the exact same 'burnt out' feeling right as I reached the end game of Witcher 3 and still havent gone back to finish it. Some of that may be due to binge playing it for long periods, but I also remember being 10 hours and enjoying every second. If I don't even get 12 hours before I get tired of FO4 then I guess the jews win.
>>316223814
>There will be no Fallout game using RAGE
>There will be no Fallout game using Real Virtuality
>There will be no Fallout game using Avalanche
>>316223384
Play on normal.
Don't take 50000 hp perks or super heavy armor, just go light, stuff will hurt you and you will hurt them, satisfying rather than both being sponges
>>316223814
>>316223950
Damn those are beautiful
>>316223980
I don't get why finding your kid is supposed to be THE main quest of the game
I dont give a fuck, he's probably dead. Yea I've been spoiled, but a real human being would give up 2 hours after waking up to this nuclear hell hole
look at this fucking shit
>>316223950
>Being this autistic about a valid flaw
>Strawmanning this hard between two games with a 17 year gap
S A S U G A , /V/
A
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/V/
>>316223823
more fitting picture
>>316223987
>next tier of armor with some stat bonuses
that's not a good payoff?
>>316223779
How convenient.
>>316208208
Why the fuck do ghouls do so much damage
The mission where you have to clear a raider camp at a plant place you have to go pass a gasoline station filled with ghouls
They literally 4 hit me
>>316224108
Yeah I really haven't bothered with pushing the main quest too far. The settlement stuff is far more compelling to me from a story standpoint
>>316223384
i've been breezing through the game on hard. i just upgraded that semi-automatic .45 caliber rifle and it destroys everything. only thing i had trouble with was the mirelurk queen, had to shoot it with missiles and the fat man to take it down.
All edgy contrarianism aside (I enjoyed FO3 & Skyrim and generally think Bethesda games are bretty good) I am really surprised at how underwhelming the game turned out to be. When Skyrim first came out I wound up pulling several all nighters because I was so draw in to the game. With Fallout 4 I find myself getting bored in as little as 30 minutes sometimes.
It's just a boring, bland game.
>Cherchez la femme removed
>>316224034
Are you using a controller?
>>316224108
Yeah, especially considering that nearly everywhere is plagued with radiation, the survival chance of a BABY is almost second to none, and not to mention that you had no sense or awareness of time in that cryo pod, so how would you know whether or not if the baby was stolen recently or 100+ years ago?
>>316221475
but the code is fucked and the community could be dead by then...
I bought the Xbone version on preorder, but then the torrent came out yesterday. Should I open my copy or return it to Amazon and just play it on PC?
>>316224229
Your character is married, therefor straight.
I don't like it but I understand.
Is it safe to pirate video games? Dont want to get a warning letter from my ISP
>>316224108
>muh chillunz!
It's the laziest way to get you invested into character. "here it's your child, you love it!".
It's not issue that people with brain realise it's a cheap trick and kid is going to be kidnapped/killed/go evil in about 5 minutes. It's not like they're target audience anyway.
>>316223780
Snipe them off from a distance? Or if melee use knockdown perk and they fall over like nothing
>>316223814
>>316223950
The sad thing about this is that you have to go that far just to justify the comparison between a 1998 game and a 2015 game. You know this is unnecessary if you're on the side of truth.
Here's a bit of an advice. Don't be a Bethesda pawn. You're better than that.
>>316208208
got to keep the normies interested in the game f.a.m.
they won't keep playing if you don't give them the good weapons :^)
Pacing early on is shit but Boston and the area around it is 10/10. Tons of locations, vertical level design and its not broken up into tiny sections like DC was
>>316220830
So you're the faggot who wants to be god at the start of every game, you're the faggot they make these games for. Fucking kill yourself.
>>316208208
I CAN'T FUCKING KILL IT. IT'S JUST A FUCKING BULLET SPONGE THAT TWO SHOTS YOU EVEN WHEN YOU'RE IN POWER ARMOR.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KILL THE DEATHCLAW?
>>316224441
This awful post is sadly 100% true.
>>316223950
You can't fight shitposting with shitposting bro.
FO4 isn't nearly ass bad as /v/ makes it out to be. They'll never admit it because they're afraid of being uncool for not joining in on the groupthink.
>>316224223
>When Skyrim first came out I wound up pulling several all nighters because I was so draw in to the game. With Fallout 4 I find myself getting bored in as little as 30 minutes sometimes.
Admittedly I was the same way, and /v/ can shit on it all they want, but I still love Skyrim. I'll be honest, Fallout 4's my first actual Fallout game that I've played for more than an hour or so at someone elses place, and I just can't get into it I feel. Maybe it's because the setting doesn't draw me in as much as I'd like it to, or maybe I'm just trying hard to actually like it, but it's just so... bland.
>>316224357
>>316224357
Boy oh boy, good thing people don't like to roleplay in Fallout games.
>>316224535
Lower difficulty
>>316224535
it took me 40 minutes on Survival mode
just enter a house, run to roof and start chasing / sniping it
So do the data files come into play later or is there some other mod system?
>>316224547
Every major game release this year has been the same thing.
>Hype
>Hype x2
>Triple Hype
>...release
>'BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY. 0/10'
I mean, people actually managed to bitch about Witcher 3.
>>316224535
You take more damage from the rear then you do the front. Don't run away.
Shoot the cars. The explosion will knock it over
Use grenades. Lots of grenades.
> Go clear town from raiders
> Dogmeat keeps barking at hostile sentries
This little faggot will deplete my stimpaks one day
>>316221598
pauldrons are pretty weird but I guess it solves that particular clipping issue...
>>316224664
> having grenades
> in 15 minutes into the game
wat
What is it with Bethesda thinking that making a plot of "go find your family relative" is a motivating narrative?
>>316224626
>Bethesda made a forty minute click fight two hours into the game
JUST
>>316223987
>It does absolutely nothing to change how combat works
actually jump from combat to power armor makes massive difference how combat works, simply because it's so good armor, barely anything short of gauss rifles and critical hits can harm you.
In old Fallouts you had little HP and armor was your mean of survival. In 3D Fallouts, it's helpful, but not even necessary to use.
>>316224682
I left him in sanctuary
>>316224682
Don't use them on him. The little fucker gets back up after a while.
>>316224719
It usually is one. It's just the pacing is fucking weird.
>>316224682
Why are you even bringing him, just tell himstay somewhere and go alone.
>>316224719
because it is
if my sis was gone, I'd search this planet and the next for her
>>316222835
they also take up too much fucking screen space
>>316224715
I found a fucking fat man in my first 15 minutes m8
It's right here ;)
>>316224682
>>316224779
>>316224742
His combat takedowns are fucking awesome, and he's a great mule.
Also, being able to equip armor on him is fucking adorable.
>>316224727
you dont have to play on the hardest difficulty though
in normal mode it's done in 5 minutes
>>316220213
I know they want to get their money's worth out of Gamebryo and they probably can just do a lot of cntrl + c cntrl + v but there has to come a time where this shitty engine needs to be taken out to pasture.
>>316222920
agreed
>>316224719
Its a universe where the character plays a fish out of water. How do you give them a compelling reason to do shit without a mcguffin?
What's more relatable:
>A human being I know
>A chip/box/machine-thingey
F1 and F2 both had the 'save your dying/potentially dying community', so 2 games of 'save the relative' ain't bad.
>>316224343
>could be dead by then
I literally hope so, but it's doubtful since Bethdrones will play the shit out of every turd Bethesda can squeeze out on a bi-annual basis.
>>316224715
There's like four molotove cocktails in the musium alone. Fallout 4 literally throws grenades at you. I had six molotoves and three standard grenades at that point.
>>316224839
So what do you think is better, playing "dress up dog" or being able to sneak up?
I've not played more than 10 mins, I've got to some minuteman guys, I've got a minuteman outfit and some leather pants and a leather sleeve and a gas mask, looks cool for starter gear
The guy just told me to get a power cell for some armour. Can i safely wander off and explore now? I don't really want power armor and a mini gun right now. Can i explain the wastes or is this tutorial still and I'm locked into this area?
>>316224889
Except with 1 and 2, your quest to find the mcguffin led into much deeper conspiracies that you got involved with, no one thought the actual finding of the chip or GECK was compelling, it was everything after that
With 3, you had
>Find dad
>Find GECK
>Activate Purifier
and with 4
>Find son
>Nuke commonwealth or kill son
>>316225000
You were free to do anything you wanted the moment you left the vault. You were never locked into doing anything.
Am I just bad is is grenades absolutely RIDICULOUS
An enemy throws a molotov and you have a 2 second window to get the fuck out of the vicinity completely or else you get doused in fire and half your lifebar is gone
>>316224940
Maybe not, but having more than double your carrying capacity is.
>>316225000
you can explore if you want
but the whole powerarmor mission is very short and after that you can start building your own settlement if you'd want, its worth doing it
you can leave power armor behind, its not like you will find many fusion cores anyway, they last only 10min per item
>>316224730
The only change is that it makes the combat trivial just about everywhere except the endgame dungeon where it is absolutely necessary.
I really don't understand why people are so defensive of the older games' mechanics.
They were weak even when the games were current. You have to have gone full retard contrarian to think that power armor was handled better in the previous Fallout games.
>>316223262
fuck off todd
>just get dog
>constantly getting stuck on him, he wanders into doorways, just stands in the way, constantly noticing stopping randomly and realising it's the fucking dog
Can I make the dog noclip or something?
>>316225091
try vatsing the grenade senpai
>>316221340
>500lbs domestic robot keeps floating by jet engine for 200 years
>military grade suit cant for work 20 mins
Bethesda literally killed the franchise
>>316220119
So are Speech checks still a thing?
>>316225152
How? Now that it's a sub-equip and ALT is the throw button, I didn't see how to throw them in VATS.
>>316225068
Both 3 and 4 leade you through a series of interesting places and quest lines to reach the relative though.
Megaton > rivet city > braun's vault > little lamp light > ravenrock. Literally dozens of quests to distract you on the way too.
4 has kept this up too, in my play time so far.
>>316225096
Well that I can't argue, considering you have to haul whole buildings if you want to build anything.
>>316225195
yes
>>316222920
>>316224885
I feel that the pacing improves considerably past the first few hours.
>muh baby
is still a weak story hook though.
>>316225091
Yeah, kinda like getting hit by a molotov for real, huh.
You can shoot them out of the air in vats, btw.
Might restart and just ignore the main quest completely, even the fucking dog is annoying me
>>316219962
dude just look at the game. 80% is recycle Skyrim. 99% of the "cool" stuff were things you do in the first 2 hours of game. This shit was rushed beyond imagination. They probably spent more time in paying reviewers ( or "PR actions" ) than on developing the mod function.
>>316225303
you can, like, tell the dog to go home and wait there
>>316224156
But they are both right, they don't contradict each other.
Something you need to accept, if you truly believe in personal liberty is that when given the choice in life some will chose violence and other wrongs but that is not a reason to give up choice, you have to be willing to pay a price for liberty, I'm personally willing to risk an occasional incident for increased personal freedom.
I'm not willing to give up a guaranteed liberty for a sense of security but it seems with the patriot act and NSA, people are OK with choosing security over liberty.
It's a damn shame.
>>316220126
picks of to where? the mission is all the same.. the fights/enemys all the same... im 10 hours in using that fucking minigun
>>316225068
The main plot of 4 leads you right into the Synth plot thought, doesn't it?
>>316225262
I don't see why though. If I watched 2 people take my child, I would go to the ends of the earth to get them.
>>316222459
Hit up the cities. Finding vantage points and running through buildings is one of the best parts of the game.
I really like how vertical the urban areas are.
>>316219962
Mods have never turned a bad game into a good game.
At best it'll turn F4 into a decent porn game.
>>316225262
Even your character barely gives a fuck about the baby
Also is there a file or something I can edit so enemies have the health of normal mode but do the damage of survival?
I like worrying about my own health but not when I need 30 shots to kill some random mook
>>316223641
fusion cores aren't even that rare though
>>316225381
The problem is that you are basically railroaded though it because your son is with the Institute, so all of the sub plots surrounding the Institute lie under the main plot of Find Son
>>316225408
Mostly just the presentation of it in the voice acting is what I feel is week.
Like with building up Sanctuary for example. Why would anybody care to help them if they knew their kid was still being held hostage?
>>316220309
they basically are "hollywooding" the game/lore.
>cliche epic music
>cliche protagonist "muh family"
>sassy hip companions
>playing sneaky nerd
>survival difficulty
>get killed by bloatfly in seconds
>get power armor
>ditch minigun
>beat the shit out of raiders
>unarmed kill animation of super uppercuts
>use machete and my guy picks up a raider and impales him
>minigun deathclaw
>back to weak scientist
This is great shit
So intelligence doesn't give you any more skill points, just how much experience you get right?
Is there a downside to 1 intelligence? I don't give a fuck about less exp but I don't want to limit my gun choices or anything
>pirate game\
>Install and play
>Get to start screen but no matter what i press on my keyboard it won't select new game or even move down to other options
>Plug in controller...works
>no option to switch to keyboard and mouse
Seriously what the fuck...
>>316225518
But circuitry to repair the armor is.
>>316220980
better? combat is non existent. The AI is ridiculous, they simply walk to you and shoot, if you can't see them game makes sure to keep them screaming retarded things so you know where they are, enemies are different grades of bullet sponges.
>>316225586
Yeah some of those melee animations are making me want to dump points into str for sure
>>316225586
The melee weapons are surprisingly well done. I have problems with ammo attrition in urban areas so the machete is great.
>>316225643
Switch controller off in options.. Using the controller
>find the newspaper chick, piper or whatever
>"SO GIVE ME THE INTERVIEW AND IN RETURN I'LL TAG ALONG WITH YOU"
haha what the fuck
its like they didn't even bother writing actual reasons, she's a journalists for fucks sake she could have said "ill document your adventure" or something but she literally outright says "ILL BE YOUR COMPANION"
this fucking writing man, my sides
I want to play as a charismatic, dumb but loveable guy, with a sawn off shotgun, pistol and a knife
What sort of special would I be looking at, I'm thinking higher str, agility and luck but I'm confused with how few points you get
>>316225741
i want porn of piper's little sister
>>316225615
Well there is no level cap and you can increase special stats the same way you get perks, so Intelligence is still useful in that it will generally speed your progress I suppose. Not sure how much of an xp increase each int point is worth through
>>316225739
Well shit..it worked.
Is there a Boone-equivalent in FO4?
>>316225137
>makes the combat trivial just about everywhere except the endgame dungeon
yep, completely no impact.Deathclaws will still ganbang you with criticals
I can't wait for critical analysis of this game. It needs to be ripped apart.
>>316222920
even in the other fallouts were you were born in the wasteland you go out of the vault like "wow wtf is this shitland". You go from golden age murica to mad max hell with sassy dialogues doing "quests" for strangers. shit is retarded
>>316222162
fucking this
>>316225643
>2016 around the corner
>Bethesda still hasn't figured out how to have a controller and kb+m active in the same time
Fucking clowns
>>316222162
on that scale "a little bit" would be more like months or weeks
>skills don't even fucking exist anymore
Fallout 4 was a mistake
I thought id hate piper after the whole press x to hate newspapers debacle but shes actually kind of a qt, would wife
>looters clearly cleaned out your street over the years
>still almost every house has visible boxes with "CAPS" on them
>>316223125
How does it canonically work?
>>316225994
>waiting for my "tag skills" to come
>it never comes
>waiting to level up to see stat allocation
>waiting to see actual perks
>it never comes
>it never comes
>>316225994
Gunplay as a result is much better. You're still locked out of Expert and Master level shit until you get the right perks and level anyways, so as long as there is progression, I don't see the problem.
Now, I find it more fun to use several different weapons rather than being limited to my build and skills. I honestly think the new Perk system is a better way of progressing your character.
>>316226023
Off the top of my head that could be loot left behind over the years by people who died after stashing it
>>316220980
I honestly don't see much of a difference between 3/NV combat and 4 combat.
>>316226108
Fallout 4 was a middle finger to min/maxing fags
and i could not be happier.
>>316225862
>just about
>just
>about
Look I know you're trying this hard because you feel the need to defend the older games.
But you still didn't prove me wrong. There are of course examples of enemies that are capable of killing you in power armor.
But they are few and far between. And they're really only a threat in solo runs.
>>316221076
>The power armor is an important gameplay element that they have to introduce at the start, because so many things revolve around it.
Todd pls.
>>316225882
yes please, but you know its going to get swarmed by bethedrones if its at all negative
>>316226072
Power armor suits used Microfusion Packs so that they could last for years, the idea of using power cells to use them was abandoned in prototypes due to how fast the suits burned through them
Now Fallout 4 says they all run on cells and burn through them quickly
>>316208208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4&index=1&list=WL
overall
>>316226331
>implying the shitposters aren't every bit as delusional as the drones
>>316226232
casual scum
Where do I see weapon degradation and how do I repair them?
>>316226491
Does stuff even degrade?
>>316226324
Nope. Honest opinion. Look at it this way, lock picking and hacking was determined by how many points you had in it, which you got by leveling. Now, it's locked behind a perk which requires a certain level and level in the associated stat. I honestly don't see the huge difference. Level up to unlock more access to more things. However, instead of being locked to a skill set, it's about your Perk loadout.
The biggest difference is your weapon damage and accuracy, which plays more like a regular first person shooter now. Instead of your stats dictating how good you are, it's mostly based on how good you actually are and the weapon itself.
You still get meaningful progression with the perks, however the game allows for more freedom in how you play, and it's easier to change your focus compared to previous Fallout games.
>>316226459
>implying opinions are delusional
>greentexting
>>316226558
>>316226491
only power armor degrades
>>316224719
Todd has daddyissues
>>316226491
>>316226558
Only Power Armor panels have condition damage.
>>316226331
The mechanics and gameplay are changed for the better and do a lot of good for the game.
It's still a technical shitpile and while the plot is simply "okay" its delivery is rather weak.
