>you get power armor 10 minutes in the game
>you fight a deathclaw literal seconds later
It's like they don't even know what "impact" is!
>>316208208
Are you lying to me? Tell me this doesn't happen.
Guys, tell me OP is a bullshitting faggot. Please.
>>316208478
It's not even a secret you can find, it's literally one of the first quest's objective
>>316208478
sorry desu senpai
>>316208478
He's not. I've been watching my brother play and this shit happens within 2 hours played.
>>316208581
>>316208592
>>316208684
Alright guys, thanks for saving me $60
>Give retarded reviewers all the cool shit within the first hour.
>Legitimate criticisms ignored because POWER ARMOR SO COOL.
You'll see the opposite effect come into play when Xenoblade X launches and it takes for-fucking-ever for you to obtain even one mech.
>>316208478
It's literally the first quest. You use the power armor and minigun before you even get to equip no clothing.
>mfw this level was shown fucking months ago
I watched probably 1/20th of the FO4 videos that were released because I wasn't really interested in buying it, but you niggers should have fucking known this shit. It was the video that convinced me the game was going to be garbage
Looks like my fallout money is going back into my warhammer purchases.
>>316208208
The real question is: do they let you keep it afterwards?
Would be kinda retarded if you were given the best armor in the game so early.
>>316208208
I'm assuming you immediately lose the shit right after the "cinematic" prologue bullshit?
Because it seems like otherwise they'd be destroying the progression of the game.
>>316208478
>>316208794
>>316208845
I remember in FO1/2 you don't get power armor till late mid-game at earliest. And when you do, it really gives you the feeling of being a badass. Betheshit will never understand this.
>>316209529
It's yours forever.
>>316209529
It requires fusion cores to actually do anything useful, so you can keep the armor after the mission, but after 10 minutes of sprinting the battery's drained and you're stuck lugging it around uselessly.
>>316209626
I agree, and they even forced you to do training to use it effectively.
Where the fuck is there a shop? Diamond City, obviously, but I doubt I can safely reach it at level 4
>>316209537
nope, you get Power Armor, the first mininuke, and start base building within a few hours of gameplay
It's the same shit pacing as having you mess with the nuke in Megaton IMMEDIATELY in FO3
>>316209529
Yes. And it trivializes the game. Finding power sources for it is not hard and the energy only really drains while using VATS or sprinting. If you don't do those 2 things there is no reason you can't just use the power armour for the rest of the game.
>>316209728
>>316209659
>stuck lugging it around uselessly.
Can you not get rid of it?
>>316209529
Yes, but it's just the exoskeleton, the frame for building more armor on
And you don't have any fuel for it
>>316209825
you can
>>316209825
you can leave it whenever you want, and it's your choice to use it or not. It's a vehicle not an inventory piece
Why does everything seem so high tech?The whole idea of the Fallout is that the world's what the people in 50s predicted it would be like.
>>316209781
I've been playing for around 16 hours and still haven't found any. I've barely found any NPC's at all, let alone stores or towns. The game seems empty as fuck. It's like they turned it into a dungeon crawler.
It's so bad I've resorted to starting to level up perks so I can just build a trader and stuff in town. Keep in mind I'm only level 19 and haven't made it to diamond city yet (but around the entire top left quadrant of my map is finished).
>>316209825
You can, it's just that you can't just store it in your inventory, you have to manually climb out of it and leave it behind.
>>316209529
>>316209537
It's powered by fusion cores, meaning that if you just run around in it doing bullshit, you will probably run out of fuel when you actually need it. Also, it breaks and you have to repair it.
I honestly dumped it in my base right after finishing the first mission, because it's not really worth using for exploring.
Fallout 4 power armor is essentially a walking tank.
Once it runs out of fuel it's useless so after the *EPIC* fight just walk to a nearest settlement and place it on a rack.
>>316208478
It's not quite 10 minutes, more like 20-30 I'd say. Pretty bad, still.
>>316209465
thats a cool ass board for a game. im gonna have to tell the local guy to do that for his next big vamp count campaign
>>316210147
You take it with you when you have to storm a base.
>>316210138
nigger what the fuck
Fallout 3 was much better put together than this, and I don't even like it outside of it's terrific atmosphere and world design. Those are literally the two things I like about that game. And it's still better than this. What the fuck. They were smart enough to put Megaton like 200m away from the Vault. I don't understand. I just... I don't. This feels like they let the amateurs build the game
>>316210180
I love how the game expects you to be in the power armor in some big fights even though you happen across those fights randomly.
You have to know beforehand that bringing the armor would help leaving you with two options.
1. Travel back and pick up the armor then travel back again.
2. Just do the event without it (What I usually do)
>>316210138
there is a shop very close to the first town
>>316208208
yeah yeah and you run out of minigun ammo in that one fight, and most of your power and it gets kinda broken
point is you will leave it to gather dust in your settlement and keep traveling on foot, so dont exaggerate
DOES THE RED DRESS CLASH WITH THE BAYONET I DONT WANT THE GUYS IN THE WASTELAND TO BULLY ME
>>316210116
Have you ever seen the jetsons? That shit is way more futuristic than this
>>316209781
You can sell to a lady with a quest and a cute daughter on a farm just to the west of the Red Rocket Gas Station!
>>316210426
Just put some blood on it honey and you'll be good to go.
The reason they just gave it to you so early is because it's a new mechanic they made for it
Is it enjoyable? Not really
It's like a timed power up that can break and become worthless and slow you down.
As for the minigun, if you're smart enough to save the bullets before chugging them all into the deathclaw, then kudos, a minigun for a while for you to play with.
The only truely fucked up thing is that Raiders can have power armor and there's one with a fucking fat man and if you have it on the highest difficulty, he's like a god damn sniper with it. Oh yeah, it's one of the first missions you're given that he has all this shit.
>>316210418
>there is a shop very close to the first town
Where? And what "first town"? You mean the town you find the minutemen in or the town right outside vault 111?
>>316208208
>needing power armor at all
then again, minigun at first hour??
>>316208208
More like 30 minutes in but yeah. >>316210512
Nah, I'd say the way they did the beginning of the game was to show that they have been around way longer than you and you need to take cover. This isn't fallout 3 where you can just waltz around doing whatever.
>>316210454
>and a cute daughter on a farm
What? In my game there was only 2 and they were talking about their daughter was killed and had to get them her pendant. Also I couldn't sell to her because she had no caps. It was like interacting with a storage cabinet. Maybe it was because ti was after I helped them and unlocked the workshop?
>>316210598
the town outside vault 11
the mother at the farm near there sells things
>>316210512
oh man I actually liked that the first few missions are so challenging, playing on survival is legit fun
>>316210598
give me a sec I'll take a screenshot
They sure know what impact means in the context of fucking you in the ass.
https://youtu.be/vVUqaw-1cG4
>>316210748
they have 2 daughters, one girl died from raiders
>>316210723
Wow look at them next gen textures.
So how long until thesex mods?
Not gonna botherpiratinguntil some are available.
>>316210723
>tfw minigun actually looks like a minigun now
>>316209781
>>316210138
Have any of the people complaining about the game actually even played it? There is a shop barely 100ft from the first settlement.
I'm sick of all these retards saying it's a timed buff. Yes, technically it is, but it only wears down at a noticeable pace if you use vats or sprint. If you don't do those two things you can wear the power armor for a real long fucking time. On top of that power cores are not hard to find, at all. Most buildings/dungeons will have a generator with a core in it. It's extremely easy to never leave the power armor as soon as you get it.
I'm playing on survival difficulty and have about 16 hours played and still haven't left my power armor. Whoever works in Bethesda's balancing team needs to stop being retarded.
I find it weird that in the last Bethesda Fallout game you had to go through this whole story process in order to properly train yourself to use Power Armor but in FO4 you literally get it in the first mission and kill a damn deathclaw with it.
It's cool that its not unlimited use, and because it takes a while to upgrade it all the way, but honestly I would have preferred a buildup.
>>316210723
how do you not run out of ammo, I spent it all on the deathclaw, cause the bastard refused to die
>>316210598
here is a pic
>>316210909
it will take a while for first serious mods to start rolling out, and it will take even longer for the lewd ones
You meet deathclaws within the first hour of New Vegas too and you faggots ate that shit up
>>316210723
>png
>shit textures
why tho senpai desu baka
>>316211131
Except you can't kill them with serious meta knowledge of the in-game item locations.
>>316210389
I'm stuck on the mission where you have to find the missing squad of Brotherhood of Steel. Died a few times to Legendary mobs with around 25 .308 rounds, 5 shotgun shells and a million rounds of .38.
My bullets bounce off their armor but seeing as I have over 300 5mm rounds left i'm just going to grab my powerarmor and minigun and BRRRT down the supermutants.
It's good for when you find yourself stuck in progression and need that aggressive "fuck everything in this specific area", but it's not good for dicking around with.
>>316211212
>with
*without
>>316211131
Not if you actually follow the quests.
Not to mention that when you first have the chance to fight them you aren't going to do shit to them unless you've mined the wiki on where all the most powerful weapons are and equipped yourself properly, which takes more than an hour outside of console commands.
>>316210917
>>316210723
>minigun overheats
Did anyone else have a legendary Deathclaw for that first fight? Goddamn bulletsponge killed me twice.
>>316211125
Thanks. I must have completely missed this place which is crazy considering all the other things around there I have done
>>316210820
>1:56
>UUUGNH ASHES GO HOME
>NNN ERIN MISSES YOU
nigga sounds like filthy frank
>>316211346
Yes it's legendary on survival difficulty. The minigun doesn't have enough bullets to kill it. You need to use cars to do more damage or really get in it's face so you never miss (which is a death wish).
it's worth it though. All the legendary enemies I've fought so far have been tough as shit (the worst being a mirelurk).
>>316211418
you're welcome
>>316211346
I dont think he was legendary but on survival he killed me about 5 times, before I got him, 2 hits is all it took him to murder me
the bastard also broke the leg and the shoulder of my power armour, so now its gathering rust in the red rocket garage
>>316210964
Thanks. I'm going to start using it right away then.
>>316211346
Speaking of bullets sponges, does FO4 have an editor released already?
The first I did when I bought FO3 and NV was edit the game variables so that all weapons in the game would do around 4x damage, so that I wouldn't have to deal with bullet sponges.
It's not like both of these games were balanced to begin with, kek.
>you get the shittiest barebones version of power armor and a minigun with no ammo
Are you niggers playing on easy?
>>316211537
You can just hide inside the hollow buildings. The deathclaws can't go through the doors and end up running against the windows. This works with almost every structure
all memeing aside, this genuinely made me decide not to buy the game
it was really lame that I had to use power armor to kill Swan
Remember how in New Vegas, hell in the original two games, Deathclaws where endgame enemies that could fuck your shit up even with the best gear?
Remember how you actually had to think if you wanted to risk it or not?
Well I am sure as hell that Bethesta does not.
>>316208208
Banking on the hope that people will judge this game based on the first impression?
Like play half an hour and then rush off to metacritic and write how amazing the entire game is or something like that.
>>316210723
Is the Pipboy hovering around her arm?
>>316211945
No one at Bethesda played the original games. This should've been clear to you by now.
>>316211801
Yeah I learned this later in the game, especially with yao guais and other legendary enemies. The AI in the game is easily abusable.
>>316210919
>ave any of the people complaining about the game actually even played it?
This is /v/.
>>316211945
stop talking out of your ass average equipment is all it took, and sure as fuck you could kill them in PA
>>316209824
>VATS
I never used it past the tutorial.
What's the point ? This shit break the flow of gamupulaiyu.
>>316210138
You're a higher level than me and i'm pretty sure im half way through
>>316212143
>Unironically playing on Normal
I really hope you guys don't this.
>>316212462
Whats hard like in this one? Does it just turn all the enemies into bullet sponges?
Bethesda must have fuxking downs syndrome
>>316211589
It's really not hard to repair
>you literally get power armor and a minigun 60 seconds into the game
>you seriously fight a deathclaw one millisecond after you find the armor and so on and so forth
so is this game like Star Wars the new trilogy syndrome?
Where all the fanboys losing their shit over lightsabers and the relatively little use of it in the original movies, then they are flooded with lightsabers every fucking action scene and the actual cool factor is out the window?
>>316212851
Fallout 1 and 2 are "old" and ""dated"" now
>>316212851
Pretty much.
Lost are the days when getting your power armor was a huge game changer.
Gone are the times where you shat your pants with the sight of a Deathclaw.
>>316210413
they should of done an ironman idea and have it come to you if it had energy.
>>316208208
>tfw you realize underages don't realize you could get MK 2 Power Armor and free a talking Deathclaw in the first ten minutes of Fallout 2
you're all fucking underage faggots senpai
>>316211068
they probably had a higher up guy or, god-forbid, a whole crew of people going
>Dude! We HAVE to put power armor in there, man
>Power armor is cool as fuck and it'll be cool if the player, like, gets it right in the beginning
>yea, shit'll be fucking amazing, and a minigun!
>Deathclaws are cool too, we NEED to put one in when you get your power armor.
>Power armor+ minigun + deathclaw = EPIC
I swear to god, as I was typing that, I could perfectly picture all the developers just smiling, nodding, and high fiving each other in agreement.
So far the only thing I've enjoyed is the base building. Everything else kind of sucks
Is the jetpack a proper jetback or just one of those jump higher, fall slower things?
>>316212606
Aside from the legendary Deathclaw taking a shit-ton of minigun bullets to kill (bear in mind this is at like level 4 and with no perks) the majority of enemies you fight on survival at least feel like what metro did for their hard mode. I was taking a ton of damage but so were they.
>>316213248
Kids today cant even read or run a mile
You think they have the patience to deal with pretend work in a video game?
Lol
>>316213293
Bitch please, that requires a huge amount of metagame. We are talking about your first playthrough here.
>>316213293
Yeah, if you know the exact locations of said power armor and Deathclaw and beeline directly to it. Difference here is that the quest markers frog-march you directly into power armor deathclaw battles.
>>316213340
If they added a seige mechanic where you had to defend it progressively, say , against supermutants raiding your water, and the point of accumulating resources was thus, marrying gameplay and story... great
But they didnt do that, did they?
>>316210138
Somewhat same shoes
I went to diamond city but almost every hour of the day Arturo isn't near his fucking store and I can't buy ammo anywhere else 5 hours in
>>316212742
I know, but I've spent all my junk improving regular armour and weaponry, AND I have ran out of minigun ammo and not being able to sprint because you'll instantly run out of juice is a pain, basically I like walking around on foot
>>316210820
>Deathclaws have a 1HK they can use on you
Who thought this was a good idea? Like I could understand it potentially making sense in a lore sense but it's not fun gameplay-wise.
>>316213638
They do that exactly once, as a late-game quest. Institute raids your shit, though. Not super mutants
>>316213248
If you get caught by a Deathclaw outside of your power armor, you're fucked.
>>316213638
>add seige mechanic
>under attack like every five minutes
>your dudes can't defend for shit, because AI is locked in mouthbreathing retard mode
>have to stop whatever you are doing at the moment and return every time to handle everything yourself
Yeah, I can see how that would have made things more enjoyable.
>>316213793
That's the point though, Deathclaws are supposed to be nigh-unstoppable murder machines that no sane person would even think about going near, much less fighting.
Hell, in NV mint-conditioned power armor will stop maybe 2 Deathclaw swipes, maybe 1 more if you have high END, but that's the entire point. They even had the courtesy to put them in a separate clearly-marked area with NPCs outside of it strongly warning you to not fuck with the Deathclaws.
>>316213340
I hate that you can't really make a character look under the age of 30. Same as Skyrim without mods.
>>316211324
Is from the book: Andrew Loomis - Fun WIth a Pencil?
>>316214074
This. I'm glad they didn't bother because it wouldn't have been implemented well.
So far it's weird how many suits of armor I've found, and I'm not short on batteries, but is there any way to construct like a recharger or something so that I don't have to worry about running out of juice?
I like the idea of the armor being for special, targeted occasions but unless I know I won't one day run out I'm worried I'll never use it.
>>316214159
>Deathclaws are supposed to be nigh-unstoppable murder machines that no sane person would even think about going near, much less fighting.
You clear a whole nest of them in Fallout 1 without much trouble. It's not even in the end game.
They're nowhere near unstoppable, they're just the most dangerous beasts out there.
Super mutants are supposed to be a much bigger threat
>>316214291
Looks like it.
>>316213798
If you just hang out at your settlement it will get raided. I've had a couple legendary super mutants show up and get rekt by my turrets. If you have any power armor lying around your settlers jump in it and fuck raiders up its pretty neat.
>>316214357
>without much trouble
Are you fucking kidding me they were incredibly difficult to deal with I had to dish out all my caps on stimpacks and ammo and when you do do the quest it is mid-game.
>>316214350
basically my position. Ive got 3 full power armor suits and like 12 fusion cores but I never want to use it. pretty sure theres gotta be a way to recharge them in the late game so you can effectively wear it permanently like in the other games.
>get power armor a half hour after starting just by following the main quest
>can literally find power armor just a couple minute walk from your vault, except without power
>4 hours later run into the Brotherhood of Steel guy, after completing his first quest he tells me to join the BoS becase "we got powerful weapons and you can get your very own power armor!"
>mfw
>>316208208
Wait, don't you need power armor training to wear power armor?
hey, hey guyscoc qasmokecoc [location]ext
So is there any reason to get non power armour in this game?
>>316214992
no you need semi-rare fusion cores to power it though. they last about 10 minutes each and so far I've found about 1 every hour or more so..
>>316214992
>>316215150
Also your character is pre-war ex-military so it's believable he could have gotten power armor training then.
>>316214992
Just hop in to AWESOME
>>316214958
You must have had a really shitty character, the best guns in the game are sold by the very guys who give you that quest.
>>316208208
>you get all your powers literally 30 seconds into the game
>>316215150
wait wait wait, so you get your power armor early but you can only use it for a limited amount of time?
That's a shitty mechanic
>>316214357
Wasn't that just one mother and and her babies?
It's slightly difficult, but you should have better weapons by then.
The real problem is when you run in to a couple adults in tight spaces. Then it's all knockdowns.
>>316215089
Aesthetics
But of course the power armor is still more attractive
Can you power armor in your inventory or do you have to move it by walking in it?
>>316215236
The male
Female just has a degree in law. Weird, considering I have 1 intelligence. Its actually pretty hilarious you have to hand it to them, bethesda shits the bed with the "role playing" part of the game right out of the gait, within minutes. Amazing
Is it even possible to do a stealth run in this game?
>>316208208
It's worse than you think OP. You literally point the minigun at its face and hold M1 and it will repeatedly try to "dodge" your attacks and never attack you.
This sequence was literally shown months ago and you're just now complaining about it?
>>316215653
It's possible, but the perk system is so fucked up it's almost not worth it. tgm + Fat Man is more fun anyway
>>316215653
probably is OP like in Skyrim
>>316215734
You're missing the point. Its one of the first sequences in the game.
Are there any other vaults to explore besides 111? I can't find any
>>316215674
Considering it killed me, what you just said is bullshit.
>>316216042
backpeddle towards the building with the people in it. The cowboy guy with the laser rifle will start firing at it too from the balcony
>>316214986
I was kinda peeved there was no option to tell him I already had power armor. I just wanted to see his reaction.
>mfw lone wanderer has power armor
>mfw abuse of technology
>>316216042
Oh right. You have to backpedal too.
I literally killed it with S+M1.
>>316216132
I already killed it, the point is that it does attack you.
>>316208774
Yeah holy shit. I was thinking about picking this up Friday. Fuck that. I'll wait and see if Obsidian gets another go at Fallout.
>>316208208
WHY DO YOU NEED FUEL FOR IT
>>316216371
because its a vehicle. Like the original concept for it intended it to be.
>>316209728
>I agree, and they even forced you to do training to use it effectively.
no they didn't
In Fallout 2 you can get the power armour as soon as you leave arroyo if your speech is high enough and you can get past the Enclave patrols
Keyword "can". Something Bethesda doesn't understand, since they make shit mandatory quest objectives.
Bethesda PR did it again, they showed whole game in one presentation video and people believed there was more.But there is nothing NOTHING
>>316211537
I killed him on Survival with 350 bullets to spare. Git gud.
>>316216042
i got killed by it too
wasted most of the ammo spraying at raiders from the roof then jumped down for body looting time and got my shit wrecked
> I want to wait till the end of the game to have fun
>>316211945
you fight a deathclaw fairly early in 1, and you can run across them in packs by level 6 or something in 2
Obviously you're not going to have an easy time on your hands, but you can still meet them. There were "lesser" versions in Fallout 2 that died pretty easily as well, but the real ones with 350HP would fuck your shit up if one ever saw you.
>>316212851
I love how in the original movies luke wasn't deflecting blasters left and right and Han even mentioned that he'd have a blaster over a lightsaber any day.
>>316217209
>deathclaw fairly early in 1
yea, but in 1 fairly early means 6 hours into the game.
>>316216007
Wait, there aren't any other vaults out there? Can anyone confirm finding another explorable vault?
>>316214159
>Deathclaws are supposed to be nigh-unstoppable murder machines that no sane person would even think about going near, much less fighting.
wrong, deathclaws are supposed to be mutated animals enhanced by FEV
They're still animals that die fairly easily when you get the chance to shoot them in the eyes, they're by no means meant to be unstoppable.
Strong and scary as fuck, yes, but not endgame enemies. Any random wanker with an energy weapon could wipe the floor with deathclaws in the first two games unless they swarmed you.
>>316217376
there obviously are, companion sheet confirmed it.
>>316214958
>get plasma rifle
>shoot them in the eyes from 300km away
for the matriarch fight
>get plasma rifle
>shoot it in the eyes
>>316208208
Guys I just built that teleporter thingy how much longer do I have with the main storyline?
The thing I hate the most about the intro and the game overall is Mama Murphy.
>I HAVE "THE SIGHT"
>I HAVE HAD IT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER
>YOU HAVE A POWERFUL AURA
>I SEE [vague description of a deathclaw] IN YOUR FUTURE...
I bet they decided to have her powers be activated with drugs as a crappy attempt to establish an ethical dilemma.
Codsworth master race
>>316217324
The hub is that far away?
Shady Sands -> Vault 15 -> Raider Camp -> Junktown -> Hub -> Necropolis -> Hub
I don't remember spending more than 3 hours on it.
>>316212075
it's padded in the middle
Like >>316210035 and
>>316210147 pointed out the power source dies in like 10 mins after wich its kinda useless why are people so upset about it if you cant even use it at the start? (Besides that quest) i just hope they make the fusion cells rare
> inb4 2nd quest you have to find a storage place for fusion cells protected by deathclaws
>>316209626
heaven forbid they use a different design doc for a different game 20 years later
>>316215674
It attacked me several times. I tried backpedaling while shooting and it fucking lunged at me.
the beginning of FO4 is seriously some of the most contrived story telling imaginable
literally seconds before the announcement of the bombs dropping some guy comes right to your house to tell you about the vaults
then for some reason the vault is conveniently located not even like a quarter mile outside your house in the woods not even connected to any streets
then the actual bomb drops again within seconds of you going into the vault
like really Bethesda?
really?
Im actually playing fallout 2 for the first time.
Im an hour and a half in and I dont even have a gun!
>>316208208
You get also second power armor, minigun and fatman on way to next objective.
Isn't this done for many games?
"A Taste of Power"
Give you ultra strong character and equipment at the very beginning of the game to give you a preview of what you're store for.
Prototype, Final Fantasy XII and Metroid did it to name a few.
>>316218352
Metroid doesn't let you keep the minigun
>>316217925
Played about 6 hours I think and have a total of 5 fusion cells. They're not rare to find. You can pretty much go into huge buildings and probably find one in the basement. After destroying one of those huge robots(the ones that roll on a triangular base and have a cage sorta face), I scavenged 2 cells from it. Kinda embarrassing to forget the name. Anyway, the cells last quite a while. Way longer than 10 minutes, that's for sure. I noticed the cell drains when you're running, can't tell if it drains when walking or stationary. Spent 30 minutes in the first cell you get in the beginning.
Also since you can fast travel with it on and not lose any energy, you can pretty much discover a place and go back for your armor to clear it.
>>316217662
p-please respond
>>316214958
If you're build isn't shit, all you have to do is hit it in the eyes.
I was unarmed build, and my encounters with FO1's Death Claws was just punching it in the eyes until it died.
>>316209781
>>316210138
You have to make your own. Why do you think they put all of that minecraft shit in the game? You have to finish building the world for them.
>>316218489
You won't find any ammo for it until level 15+ so it's basically just dead weight.
>>316218181
Somethings people are missing. Vault Tec knew the bombs were going to drop. They planned for these vaults and experiments for a long time before acting on them. In fact, the "salesman" seemed very anxious to get you signed up THAT day, THAT moment, and was nervous, as if he knew for a fact that bombs were going to drop any moment. Vault Tec higher ups most likely planned locations very precisely.
Try telling the salesman "No" for signing up, and you'll see him get very nervous about not getting you signed up.
>>316218046
bethesda can't make good games
>>316218181
>like really Bethesda?
>really?
ever notice how james bond never takes a shit? in any of the james bond movies? how do you explain that?
really, universal pictures? really?
I'm looking forward to the inevitable 40k mods for power armor. I think they'll work a lot better in FO4 than they did in 3/NV with how much chunkier it looks.
>>316214357
>Super mutants are supposed to be a much bigger threat
I do believe this nigger is talking out of his ass
Why do the enemies spawn when you enter a base or building? It's fucking annoying entering an empty camp and some guy nuking you out of nowhere.
>>316218352
>>316218489
The mini-gun is not the strongest gun in the game. In fact, they give you a weapon that's considered to be so powerful in previous games, to show that it's just tip of the ice berg in terms of strength. Legendaries and modded weapons far out shine the Mini-gun in FO4.
It's more like a "Remember how powerful this shit was in previous games? Well you haven't seen anything yet."
The Power Armor, in the mean time, is a long term project of upgrading and leveling up in order to use efficiently.
>>316211945
>Remember how you actually had to think if you wanted to risk it or not?
Nope. Punch them in the eyes. Keep punching them in the eyes. Never stop.
>>316218194
>Im an hour and a half in and I dont even have a gun!
>not making a beeline for the pipe rifle
>2015
>>316218717
alright
>>316218702
Funny how they didn't let the salesman in? Only specific key people..... I smell a conspiracy.
>>316218721
Absolutely nowhere near the same thing.
>>316218647
>F1 Unarmed build
>not 10 AP1 power fists a turn
anon plz
>>316208208
>>316218906
Where is it? I legitimately know nothing about this game. Played through 1 a while ago, and know bits about the plot from NV, but I haven't looked at any guides or anything.
>>316218908
I have a theory that the people behind Vault Tec were the ones behind the bombings. Either by careful manipulation, or flat out the ones that got the launch codes.
>>316218941
what
Using the powerfist is what I meant.
I didn't have 10 AP1 power fists a turn. I had like two AP4 attacks a turn. What were you doing or exploiting to get 10 attacks per turn?
>>316218721
He takes shits on women's chests when he sleeps with them. That's why when they're finished you always see the women covering their chests with blankets and sheets.
>>316218096
Aim better then. I backpedaled and tapped the trigger at its face and it kept trying to weave left and right to avoid my shots and never got close.
>>316210180
>Fallout 4 power armor is essentially a walking tank.
Blah blah. You know what? Power Armor in Fallout 1 & 2 was essentially a walking tank as well. This shit isn't new. They were made pre-nuclear holocaust to replace tanks with heavily armed infantry. They also had self-sustaining mini fusion reactors because a combat fighter who can stay in action for sub 20 minutes before running out of fuel would be absolutely useless.
>>316218774
I do believe you've never played Fallout
>>316218991
Well, the game tells you to look for Vic. So you should ask around in Klamath to see where Vic lives.
>>316219096
I aimed directly at it's face and it's health was constantly dropping. It never tried to dodge and just kept running straight at me. I had to hide in one of the side houses my second attempt, and even then I ran out of ammo before I killed it.
>>316219140
Gotcha, got distracted from that by some side quest. Thanks for the tip.
is there anyway to copy/paste stuff into the console commands? its my first playthrough
>>316219113
Tank as in useless once it runs out of fuel. Power armour isn't supposed to run out of fuel unless the fusion core is damaged somehow.
Despite the ease of getting it, it kind of makes sense you can use it. Your guy was in the army and shit wasn't he? Also I much prefer how the power armour works now vs how it worked in NV/FO3.
It feels much more useful, the UI is pretty cool and it has nice sound effects and visual effects (crushing stuff, bullets pinging off you etc.)
If it wasn't for the fact that you get it 1 hour into the game I'd say it's the best power armour delivery in the franchise.
How much lolsorandum "humor" is there in this game?
>>316219260
>Your guy was in the army and shit wasn't he?
Unless you're playing as the wife who has a law degree even if you only give her 1 INT.
>>316219312
affirmative action?
>>316219312
Her husband taught her all that army shit
>>316219260
>Your guy was in the army
Unless you play as a female, but he wasn't in a power armored regiment.
>vs how it worked in NV
NV Power Armor was much better than F4.
>>316219271
The game takes itself pretty seriously with lot's of melodrama.
It's more cringe-worthy dialogue than quirky humour so far.
>running around in the vault outfit
>guy asks me where I'm from
>lie and say I'm not from a vault
>he believes me and doesn't inquire further at all
>change out of the vault outfit into generic looter armor with a full face mask
>random fucking reporter lady immediately guesses that I'm from a vault
what the fuck is this shit
>>you get power armor 10 minutes in the game
Just like Fallout 2
>>316208478
You get to join the Brotherhood of Steel after about 40 minutes of playing the game and doing 1 mission menial task with one of them.
>>316208208
>Game gets power armor right
>Game ads customizable weapons
>Game adds settlement construction
>Fucks up literally everything else
Bethesda, I want to give you my money but you're making this hard...
>>316219439
Bad writing and forced story situations due to voice acting.
>>316219418
That could be better or worse depending on how extreme it is.
>>316219380
>>316219380
Yeah, he wasn't in the power armour regiment, but it makes more sense that he'd at least have a better theoretical understanding than your average joe.
How do you think FONV power armour was better?I don't think I ever actually went that route, I always go pistol/unarmed.
>>316219454
>after reading where exactly it is and how to get it
wow, it's fucking nothing
>>316216198
He doesn't react at all if you just straight walk up to him in power armor like I did.
These people are fucking retarded can't be said enough.
Even the trailer made it look like you would spend like half the game trying to find the parts you need to build the power armour like it would be a struggle or a main quest line.
Nope, let's just hand out everything straight a way for our 12 year old fans.
Fuck this shit. I'll wait till some dedicated mod squad has made this game playable.
>>316210413
So far I found 2 power armor 6 hours into the game. The first from the mission obviously and the second was conveniently placed before reaching a place that had a tough enemy. I'm surprised the enemy scaling isn't shit. It had a skull next to its health bar. Was only able to beat it because I realized it doesn't move until you get near it. Like 300 mini gun bullets only got it to near half health lol.
>>316219508
things really went to hell in a hogcart for the eastern brotherhood after '77
>>316219216
Oh, ok. So do all the Power Armor have broken fusion cores? Or is Bethesda holding out on a working one with some DLC?
>>316214207
One guy managed in the post your character thread.
>>316219665
No, now all cores just last for thirty minutes.
>>316219665
>>316219730
It's like Mass Effect all over again.
>we replaced all the guns in the universe with ones that use these shitty thermal clips
>>316219650
>>316219508
>do the first quest with the Brotherhood
>act pretty disrespectful to the guy and even barter for more money and he writes me off as just another merc
>during the quest I just stand around the corner and let the Brotherhood guy do all the work because lolNPCsareinvincible
>after the quest he gives me his weapon for my "bravery" and I act disrespectful like it isn't much of a reward
>He then invites me to join the Brotherhood because of "honor I displayed as a soldier"
fucking Bethesda man
>>316219034
I honestly think vault tec dropped the nukes so they could run their social experiments. I mean it just makes sense.
Only way people want to go in to the vaults is if they have no option
>>316219829
Oh I should also add that my character doesn't even know what the fuck the Brotherhood is because he's from before the war, and as far as I can tell there weren't any dialogue options that really explained it to him in-depth.
You just roll with it.
>>316219059
It's just a dumb fun build.
Agility 9 base (+1 Implants to 10 later)
Perk: Bonus HtH Attacks (lvl6)
Trait: Fast Shot
The perk/trait combo takes the 3AP PFist to 1AP unaimed. You can't punch eyes/dicks anymore, but dem sweet kenshiro combos make up for it.
>>316219829
what if you get invited to the brotherhood because your son is pulling strings
It really would make sense since nothing you do affects the progress of the story at all.
Pretty sure in F1 and 2 it states that the power cores in Power armor can keep them running for like 300 years or some shit.
Every fucking fallout until F4 lets you run around in power armor indefinatley.
GG beth
>>316208478
The game just gives you all the main mechanics during the early missions, then lets you do what you want, so it's important that you get the power armor.
You can't use it all the time early game anyways, I use it for city expeditions.
The biggest problem with the pacing is the minigun you get in the same mission, but most of the players use most of the bullets in the deathclaw fight anyways
>>316219439
she does point out the pip boy senpai
>>316219380
>NV Power Armor was much better than F4.
what? how? it worked like any other armour as opposed to fo4 where it actually feels like a vehicle
did they ever give any sort of even ~barely~ legit reason as to why the modkit wont be out until 2016? why not on release?
i think with mods this game will be passable, right now its fucking awful and i want to like it :(
>>316219835
that would be really stupid if they did
like really really really stupid
>>316219889
Oh, shit, I forgot fast shot works for non-guns in FO1 as long as the weapon is one handed.
Didn't they fix/change that in 2? It's been a while since I played either of them.
>>316219835
According to a fallout 1 movie that got cancelled, that's what happened.
Is it true that there's no moral choices anymore? Do you just do whatever the NPCs ask you to do?
Did they really make an rpg with no actual rpg part in it?
>>316209626
You can actually get power armor early in Fallout 2, but you're not likely to just stumble on it, rather you need advance knowledge of it and have the right skills to sneak & thieve your way into the base. I don't remember if it was the Enclave or Brotherhood's base.
>>316215013
huh?
>>316215013
thanks family
i'm so tempted. but i need to resist.
>>316220006
>Do you just do whatever the NPCs ask you to do?
Pretty much. They killed the dialogue hard. The only real solution to quests now is just killing shit. Trying to talk your way to a different solution isn't viable.
>>316219418
So no vampires or a town that exists solely for a super villain and super hero to fight in?
>>316211979
The first parts of the game are really shitty though.
The minutemen missions are made as introduction missions that just throw features at you one after another, so it feels really rushed.
But after some of those, it just throws you to the wasteland, and the game really picks off
>>316219962
Because the game is a mess
>>316208208
The Deathclaw might just have the worst AI they ever had in a Fallout game too.
https://youtu.be/vr6eAN3_604?t=84
Even in 3 they were more threatening.
>>316219914
everyone in boston is just retarded lore fixed
>>316220006
They didn't make an rpg anon.
>>316208208
That sounds like a fucking disappointment.
Why does Bethesda keep doing un-fallout things in a Fallout game?
I mean, jesus Fallout 3 was a way better FO game than FO4.
>>316219973
Pretty sure they fixed it in F2 sadly.
Mega Power Fist x10 would be too good
>>316219556
Higher tier power armor in NV makes you near-invincible to anything short of anti-armor weapons (which is what it should be).
>>316220229
It's like they made the A.I just for the fight before the power armor vs deathclaw
it works fine aslong as they're running straight at you in a long line, running from cover to cover. But nothing else works
What is survival mode?
>Skyrim comes out
>some gripes here and there, mostly related to the console HUD, but overall a massive success that drew in countless people and did many things right
>Fallout 4 comes out
>not just on /v/, but everywhere it seems as though the general consensus is "where's all the shit I liked from New Vegas? This isn't a real RPG/Fallout game"
>Fallout 4 out-Skyrims Skyrim by dumbing down the dialogue system to the point of just being insulting
>deathclaws and Power Armor, both things associated to high-level gameplay in previous games, are handed to you as soon as possible
>at the rate Bethesda is going, Daedric armor in the new Elder Scrolls will be handed down from your great uncle ruckus from the civil war because Bethesda loves protagonist backstories, and the dialogue system will be a like/unlike binary system
>the game embraces the shooter side of things way too much, to the point of dulled out or non-existent RPG elements
>Fallout 4 is the Invisible War of Fallout
I wasn't expecting New Vegas 2, but I'm still surprised how out-of-touch Bethesda feels with this game.
>>316220389
the same as any other mode in a beth game, roided out health and damage enemies
>>316220309
That's pretty shitty criticism.
>un-fallout things
How fucking retarded. What do you exactly mean by this?
>>316209465
Is that D&D? That looks fucking neat.
I'd love to try a game of D&D once but I have no friends that are interested.
>>316220309
Some reviewer said it best "Fallout 4 is no longer an FPSRPG, it's an open world action game with RPG elements. Aslong as you play expecting an open world action game, it's a very good game."
Fallout has been butchered for ages, it's time to accept it for what it is.
Every minute since launch has made me more and more glad I didn't pick this up day one. Probably not going to touch it all unless I pick it up for dirt cheap
