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So Blizzard went and fucked up, made a free-to-play game that costs 60 dollars, complete with skin purchasing.
Thoughts?
So it's not free to play then.
Either way why do people even want to play it? It's just TF2 2.0 with all the characters not looking like they all belong in the same world, horrible designs
It's 40 if you don't get the premium edition.
Also, what's this Overwatch was F2P meme? The only time I ever heard anyone thought that was after the price was released.
You people just want things to complain about and it's pretty exhaisting.
>>315754716
>it's just TF2 2.0
That's exactly why we want to play it
>>315754716
I was hoping it might give TF2 some competition and maybe make Valve get off their asses and do something with the game. Or at the very least, might provide a new alternative to TF2, now that it's been overrun with little kids.
But I'm not paying $39.99 for the basic edition of Overwatch, let alone more than that.
That's $60 for the special edition you turbonerd
It's $40 and there's nothing hinting at buying skins
>>315755553
>Also, what's this Overwatch was F2P meme?
What meme? A lot of people assumed it would be F2P since Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone were. Overwatch certainly LOOKS like a F2P game.
>>315754632
Good, I fucking hate the f2p model
>>315755764
A lot of people assumed these things then told other people these things as a fact. It became a a meme.
In what way? Because it's MP only or because you just assume that any game a PC dev puts out will be F2P?
They're up to what, 40 characters now? Its gonna be a clusterfuck anyway, so who cares.
>>315755764
No it doesn't. At best it looks like a game that will have a pay-in for the first year or two and then go F2P later to keep/increase player traffic.
And just because you assume something does not ever make it true. If assumptions were facts, this whole board would be a lot less retarded. How people continue to get mad because what they invented in their head turned out to be false still surprises me.
I paid $40 for TF2 in early 2008. I feel it was worth every penny. I've played the ever living crap out of TF2.
I wouldn't mind doing the same for Overwatch as long as it ensured me content. Overwatch is totally going to flop if they try to do LoL bullshit where you have to pay or earn in-game currency for new characters. That shit just doesn't work for a shooter game. It'll die off just like Tribes Ascend if they do that shit.
>>315755650
>now that it's been overrun with little kids.
>now
>>315754632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usdwwmvkVMk
>PRO-GAMER
>PRO-GAMER
>FROM SOUTH-KOREA
>>315757190
What are you even trying to imply?
>>315757319
God she looks so cute
shame about the voice and those memes though
>>315754632
>Trying to compete with TF2 and the like
>Slap a $40/$60 price tag on it
ayy lmao
I give it 3 months after launch for them to drop the price tag and go F2P.
People who already bought it get the next character for free. Maybe a hat too.
>>315757319
>Time to raise my APM!
Okay, I think I'll pass on this game.
>>315754632
nothing wrong with the price tag, the real problem is that it doesn't give beta access.
>>315754632
So do we know by now how new characters and skins etc will be handled?
Because I'll be furious if they go with the moba model DESPITE being buy to play, yet I can so see this happening
>>315758279
I'll give them 0 days.
IMO Origin pack is for early access and Heroes pack, like Smite pack with all heroes.
>>315758828
Wow so if you pay 60 dollars instead of 40 you get to play ALL champions??
BASED BLIZZARD
>incoming poorfag tears
>>315758607
activision pressure will make them do it that way
especially as the cost of overwatch was so damn fucking high
and the fact that hots basicaly failed
>>315754632
tbth, if they release new heroes and maps for free forever I won't mind a cosmetic cash shop. They have to monetize somehow. If they go full jew like WoW they can go fuck themselves.
I'm not buying on release anyways, so I can watch how they handle b2p without being a "sucker". Too many other games to play before June.
>>315759683
>you get to play ALL champions*
*all champions available on release.
but we have no concrete information right now
>>315758279
guaranteed to go f2p. wouldn't be surprised if it's already slated to go f2p at some point, but they want to get that extra dough from early adopters.
smart move on their part. probably what they should've done with heroes.
>>315758279
This is exactly how it's going to go down. A little free burst of income to cover development costs from the $40/60 release, then drop it F2P once sales die down at the same time as releasing a new pack of cosmetics/characters/etc.
>>315759915
They did something similar with heroes, where they were basically selling beta access + 3 characters a month or so before the game went into open beta.
>>315760221
not gonna lie. I would play evolve if it went f2p. the game is fun enough to fuck around with every now and then, but no way in hell was I paying $50+ for it.
I was hoping for $15-20 max at release. nice little l4d-lite, but 2k had to be greedy little shits.
>>315757319
>game on!
>nerf this!
>time to raise my APM!
the three new character are awful even compared the other 18
>>315760221
>Without this requirement, keeping hackers out of the game is impossible.
Yea because League and Dota are always hacked
lel i hope their sales are going horribly bad
who would pay up 60 euros for this shit. They're not even providing early access.
>>315760362
I'm surprised it still isn't F2P with all that lack of content
>>315760487
Hacks aren't as prevalent in those games because mechanical skill doesn't really matter. What would you even do? Maphack? Nothing intensive enough to be worth scripting either.
>>315754632
The amount of shills Blizzard has makes this another guaranteed short-term success.
I'll go play Unreal Tournament until this has f2p.
>>315754632
>Thoughts?
I want to impregnate Widowmaker
>>315758607
You can find a hint in how they worded the anouncement of the price.
Box price will be $40 for all current 21 heroes.
>current
Think about it anon, why would they emphasize 'current'
>>315761353
Maybe In Game Cash?
what happened to the fucking ingame currency system that was data mined?
>>315756593
>I paid $40 for TF2 in early 2008
You didn't. You paid 40$ for the orange box. Which came with a total of two other, SP games WITH modding tools and two expansions to one of those game.
I remember a standalone release of TF2 that cost 20$ to 30$ depending on retailers but it was never 40$.
This shit is a scam.
>>315755945
F2P with skins store is the most profitable business structure, so it was assumed. Trying to steal some of the PC gaming market share from LoL, DotA 2, and TF2 is going to be impossible if less people actually play the game.
>>315754632
The 60 dollar premium is a way to keep third world trash out. No offense but f2p drags quality down.
>>315760221
These developers and publishers learn nothing.
>>315756593
>competetive
>Blizzard
>memes
>easy to get in
>MOBA-like
It's never gonna die. It's a formula that strikes right into normies and faggots.
>>315754632
>skin purchasing
Who gives a shit about cosmetics?
I'm fine with it being buy to play and having a cosmetic store in game as long as they let you use all the characters.
>>315754632
So the game is 40$ and future characters cost extra? If that's the case, then that's cancer.
Getting real sick of these references for voice clips.
Why can't game devs just stick to in-setting dialogue that makes sense? I don't need everything to be some epic meme every time.
>>315762556
maps might also cost extra
Blizzard drones will defend this.
>>315762569
Blizzard has always done this in every game, no exceptions.
>>315762556
The $40 is activision demanding that they front-load the profit before teh game has the chance to drop off.
It's essentially the same as forcing the layer to buy a bunch of cash-shop purchases up front. Like if in HotS you could download the client but you were forced to purchase $40 worth of heroes before you could play a match.
In this Overwatch case the heroes end up being about $2.50 each but you have to buy them all, even the ones you don't like.
>fps with cooldowns
>expecting money for it
Blizzard gets away with murder.
I'm a dev for this game and I can tell you right now that we don't plan to change Widowmarker's and Tracer's skin tight asses as soon as Activision feels like it got enough money out of the waifufags. They'll fix the models in a PR attempt to look Progressive.
>>315760221
>>315760362
even tough people shit on Evolve for DLC fiasco, they actually did it alright. All DLC on release were random skins and unlocks, first one doesn't matter that much, second one sucked a bit, because people skipped content.
But they fucked up with Editions big time, there were 6 SKUs or something.
>>315762664
I know but I still dislike it.
Compare to something like Left4Dead where the characters have lots of dialogue but they arn't all just blatant quotes from some movie.
>all these buttblasted poorfags, BRs, RUs, and slavs that cant afford a $40 game pissing and moaning because the game isnt free
>>315762248
memes of the storm tanked hard though
>Wanting a game to be freemium
I want kids and brazilians off /v/.
So do I at least get beta access for the 60 sheckels jew edition or what?
>everyone complaining about the price
you faggots that are bitching are just going to end up buying it anyways. but i guess you gotta look cool on the internet and post how much you hate it and shit.
>>315762793
>there are many hundreds if not thousands of people who paid full retail price for Evolve and who played it twice or maybe 3 times and never touched it again.
>they have seasons passes worth of skins for their monsters that you have never ever used ingame
>>315763041
its about everything that comes after the launch you mongoloid.
>>315763078
Cause traditional MOBA's are passe. Now FPS MOBA's are the thing for next few years.
>>315763146
Run the credit card and find out :^)
>>315763146
probably not. overwatch twitter said they won't be sending out invites for a while
Why would I pay $40 for a game when I can play several other superior games of the same genre for free? And if I'm playing those games, why would I sacrifice my skill, rank, and/or skins?
>>315763150
/v/ only pays for big hit AAA games like Undertale, Dragon Age Inquisition, and annual Call of Duty releases
>>315763434
Widowmaker's ass
>>315763434
why ever play new games
why do anything
why even live
time so suicide anon
What's in the $60 version?
Is it just a skin?
>40 burger bucks
yeah, no. Also a paid new IP with microtransaction
guaranteed to be dead
>>315763041
>Wanting to pay just to play a multiplayer only game.
Its like you did not learn your lesson from TF2 before it went free. Or Evolve. Or Titanfall.
>Pay 40 Dollars for a game
>Start it
>Notice 15 new heroes
>each one costs 1500 overpoints
>the fuck is an overpoint
>ingame currency
>only sold in bundles of 1200 for 10 dollars
>ehh I dunno
>play my game
>new hero, GIGANIGGA, a black strong woman beats the shit out of me
>she has no counters except new heroes
>spend 20 sheckels buying her because i want to reck noobs
>have 900 overpoints left
>might as well get more points, or else this 900 goes to waste!
>>315763780
>GIGANIGGA
I would definitely play this game just for this
>>315763678
With most games, buying a new game isn't a big deal. It's a whole new experience that can easily take up 10-30 hours of your time.
With these new multiplayer games though, the experience is the same. Kill people so you can do X to win, or last team standing wins. Then every game after that is the same thing, just with different people.
>>315754632
Is it a rule that every FPS game that isn't an already established franchise has to be F2P these days?
Everyone just assumed it would be F2P for no real reason, and the assumption stuck around for so long that people are suddenly surprised now.
"It has 'heroes' and the concept is similar to TF2... it must be F2P!"
You guys do know TF2 wasn't always F2P, right?
>>315754632
>59.99
Sweet I can actually play it.
>Still has a cash shop
Those greedy fucks.
>>315764232
Yes, but the main issue is that they haven't specified if all future characters are going to be free or locked behind a paywall in the cash shop along with cosmetics. This would cause a total break in the player base, and probably harm the game's life.
>>315761654
Yeah, earned through either playing 500 matches or paying the easy and efficient $5 booster pack for each character!
>>315754632
No one ever said Overwatch was going to be free. It's people like YOU that just assumed these things and accepted those theories as facts. Good lord it's a big fucking joke now how people want their games to be free ever since Valve starting their F2P shit.
>>315754632
>$60
Not worth it.
Guess I'll stick to CS:GO, TF2 and QL.
>>315764093
>Everyone just assumed it would be F2P for no real reason
The fact that it looks like ass, has no single player campaign, and was all but guaranteed to use the MOBA model of constantly releasing new heroes for real money?
>>315764093
No one's complaining about it not being free. It's the high price tag that's weird when competition offers better games for lower price.
>>315764639
Do you not understand that people aren't complaining that they were mislead? They're just stating that this product does not seem to be worth the AAA price tag they put on it.
>>315754632
Dead on arrival
>>315764432
It's Activison, they are massive kikes and always have been. They never gave a shit when they split the COD fanbase with their shitty map packs and they won't give a shit here if they split the fanbase between DLC characters.
>>315764924
its $40, thats not the usual AAA price tag of $60
>>315764639
Also to add to this for everyone claiming microstranactions after it's release. See all those heroes they advertised? Available at launch with no other characters locked from a pay wall.
Do some research for once in your lives /v/.
>>315754632
>Blizzard
Why should i care what a company does that made its last worthwhile title 13 years ago, with nothing but shit ever since then?
do not support this kind of bullshit /v/ they are going to get used to.
>>315764924
>Game isn't released and people already try to find ways to shit on a price tag they probably can't afford without begging their mommy and daddy for more allowance.
How about you screw off kid.
>>315765091
$40 is entering full release territory. This is not $40 worth of content.
I love how they danced around the question if future heroes will cost money.
SPOILER:They will cost money
>>315765102
>See all those heroes they advertised? Available at launch with no other characters locked from a pay wall.
yeah, all 21 specifically
now i wonder what would happen if they added a 22nd character
>>315765223
>Bring a grown up means just spending you money on frivolous shit and caring about what other people like
Okay pal.
Won't buy it simply because I don't trust it to maintain a healthy community. Not after Titanfall and Evolve and the myriad MMO's that failed with a B2P or P2P model.
Plus the way that they emphasized the fact that you get the CURRENT available content for the base pack, I didn't like it. They'll release more heroes and map packs and charge $$ for it, dividing the community.
All because they didn't want a F2P game on consoles.
>>315765253
Again, do some damn research.
No plans on adding more characters.
>>315765102
It wouldn't be /v/ if there wasn't a massive amount of faggots having knee jerk reactions at shit they don't care enough to research.
>>315754632
I didnt know blizzard wanted to make Evolve(2016)
>>315765350
>current
>current
>current
>>315765318
What's "you money"
>>315763780
this
>>315757319
>those fucking voice lines
Okay. Who the fuck is the target market for this game. I don't think 12 year olds can afford a $40 tf2 knockoff.
>>315765337
f2p on consoles exists and is relatively good
theres warframe and some other shit
If they don't make this shit available through Steam I won't bother buying it.
>>315765432
Are you 12?
>>315765425
Why do I even bother talking to you autists.
RIP
>>315765471
Retarded voices and cartoon characters worked for Dota2
>>315765517
Want to place a bet on whether there will be more characters?
>>315765592
Which are optional.
>>315765731
I'm talking about the voice acting for the playable characters.
>>315765853
Got any examples?
>>315757319
>"Nerf this!"
>You can recall your mech seconds after you've used it and it's exploded
Uh huh.
Praise be to Allah for imbalance.
This game could have been the new TF2, instead it will, be the new Evolve. Bravo Blizzard.
>>315766020
Any Jen Taylor character,
>>315754632
>made a free-to-play game
No, they made a game. They never said it was going to be F2P, they didn't say anything about whether it was going to be paid or not.
>>315764804
It's $40 not 60.
>Game is f2p
>/v/ complains
>Game is b2p
>/v/ complains
Just bought it myself. I've seen enough to justify the 40 dollarinos, go get a job nerds. Of course video games cost money.
>>315766228
They never said it was going to be F2P, but it looks and feels like a F2P game.
>>315754632
Would buy it, but I don't want to buy it without playing it first. Still waiting for the beta pass.
>>315766250
Who in this thread is complaining about F2P games? You can't just fucking make a generalization like that and expect nobody to call bullshit.
>/v/ says they don't like stubbing their toe
>/v/ says they like stubbing their toe
>FUCKING /V/ AM I RIGHT?
TF2 was bundled at launch with some of the best pc games ever made for 60 dollars
This game won't be better than tf2 and therefore isn't worth more money.
>having to pay for shitty tf2 clone
Nobody is angry because it isn't a F2P.
Pepole are angry because it's a B2P with
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>>315754632
go poorfag somewhere else didn't want you to ruin my game anyways! :D
>>315766250
>Because I have a job I can waste my money
Won't do you give it to charity rather than a multi-billion dollor company.
>>315766521
>people are mad about optional microtransactions for skins
Ok
>>315766442
Though on that thought, if they gave me SC2, Diablo 3, and this in a bundle for 60 bucks it'd be on par with the orange box and I'd buy it.
>>315766379
F2P ruins most games because eventually the devs get greedy and go full milk mode.
Also the community is worse, has more children and hackers.
>>315766250
Anybody can work at MacDonalds.
>>315766629
>giving money to charity
Geez those African kids gonna surely be good addition to society
>>315766609
Enjoy your dead game. xD
>>315766713
>F2P ruins most games because eventually the devs get greedy and go full milk mode.
Now we can have both at the same time!
>>315766720
So why most out of people whine for 40$
>>315754632
> $60 game with cash shop.
>>315766838
Because it has a shop inside the game.
>>315766881
Having a game with trillion of DLC is okay, but having a game with OPTIONAL game shop is bad? Guess Destiny is okay for You.
>>315763202
Just like MNC. Oh wait.
>>315766857
>>315766881
>Crying about cosmetic shit
When they announce that prepurchasing gets you into the beta I'll drop the 60, game looks fun.
>>315766713
devs are more likely to milk a full priced game just look at cod or battlefield
>>315754632
"Origin's Edition"
You'll have to try harder if you want to bait me
Of course this is more than enough to bait /v/ underagers
Sage of the seven toads :')
>>315766994
>crying
Says the person posting anime reaction images.
>>315766250
Hope you'll enjoy the game I know better ways of spending my money.
TL:DR
Poorfags and "True" players whining about game that they're gonna probably buy afterwards
>>315761840
No. I bought TF2 before the Orange Box bundle. I straight up bought TF2 by itself. I think I'm mistaken though, it might've actually been $30 for TF2 by itself.
However, I did buy bought the Orange Box later because I didn't own Portal or the Half Life 2 games. It was during a sale and I got it for $10. They didn't give me a gift for the extra TF2 to share with somebody, strangely enough.
>>315754716
Because Blizzard fans are degenerate keks who will buy literally anything their company shovels out, hence why 5 million people still pay for their shitty MMO every month, and will continue to do so for the next FIFTEEN FUCKIG MONTH until Legion is released
But don't worry guys, if you preorder now you can play the demon hunter A WEEK before launch
On my phone so I can't post an image reaction, but even if I could I don't think I have a picture to convey the amount of autism and oy vey this demands
>>315766994
> Actually thinking it's acceptable for a video game to expect each player to spend more than $60.
>>315767138
>poorfags
Tip: rich people don't spend their money on dumb shit
>>315766248
It's $60. see
>>315754632
>>315767138
No its more about blizzard releasing a t2f clone that isnt f2p and praying to god that theyre game doesn't just fade into the abyss along with every other tf2 clone
>>315767217
that's why every collector's edition is sold out whitin a second?
>>315767227
Isn't that the origins edition?
I was actually excited for this game when the Beta came out.
But of course, Blizzard had to ruin everything.
Into the garbage bin it goes.
>>315766994
>implying they won't be selling heroes and maps in the future
>>315766994
if it was a free to play game a cosmetic shop would be fine but charging 60 bucks for the amount of content is ridicules
>>315767227
no, its $40 for the base game and $60 for Origins Edition.
Just looking at this thread you have to agree that shilling is real.
>I ahm le spending my le money; get a jerb kidd xD
>>315767324
Are you trying to imply that only wealthy people buy collector's editions?
>>315767357
>implying they will
>>315767217
>rich people don't spend their money on dumb shit
Hollywood pls
>>315767324
Because there's always those middle class gamers who actually buy those kinds of crap.
>>315767385
This.
Don't spend money on this trash. Not such a high price at least.
Watch the game die in a few months and them blaming it on being a new IP
>>315767543
>implying anyone would buy anything than a standard edition
>>315763780
Exactly this, if you know anything about blizzard then you know they are COMPLETE SHIT at balancing the meta
They know this and will release heroes that are overpowered, knowing people will buy them
>>315767091
>crying about anime reaction images on a clone of a Japanese imageboard
>>315767201
You don't have to buy the shit, its cosmetics. So long as nothing in the store affects gameplay it doesn't matter. Would it be great if they had it so you could obtain cosmetics through gameplay? Of course. But as it is there still isn't a problem.
>>315767357
If they do go down that route I'll be against it. I haven't seen any evidence to show that they will though.
>>315767369
Its $40 dollars for the base game. The OP is showing the Origins Edition of the game which comes with some extra cosmetic shit and other garbage for Blizzards other games.
>Marketers falseflagging with shitposts @ BRs
>>315767628
$40's still too much when QL and TF2 are free and CS costs $15 at most.
>made a free-to-play game that costs 60 dollars
It's astonishing how many people parrot this argument, given how IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE TO SAY.
That just means it's a fucking game.
>>315767385
>People buy a game to have fun = shilling
>People spend money because they have disposable income = Irresponsible
>>315767641
Fun fact: Japanese people don't glorify anime nerds like you seem to think they do.
ITT: mad as fuck kiddies and poorfags who wanted it to be F2P
>>315767628
Even if you do you need to buy the heroes.
In other words, you're spending nothing less than 60 dollars on this either way.
Why is all of the lore spread across Blizzard's sit instead of in the game? It would benefit a lot from a single player campaign
>>315767790
>buying a video game with a cash shop
>>315767790
I have no problem paying for games, I actually like that because it avoids bullshit F2P cancer
I have a problem with buying the game and then having to buy more heroes and maps. It's like I'm buying a beta
>>315767641
>If they do go down that route I'll be against it. I haven't seen any evidence to show that they will though.
I guess you didn't see them completely dodge that question then
>>315767641
> It doesn't affect gameplay!
Oh yeah, it's not like people enjoy working towards unlocking stuff in games.
Getting out your credit card and sucking Bliz's cock is a much better way of doing it.
>>315767768
Hey, I'm complimenting you when I call you a shill. Would you rather be called a braindead Blizzard fanboy?
>>315767543
>$40
>high price
There's a plethora of reasons not to buy Overwatch yet, but the price isn't one of them.
If your main issue is the price, you're just a cheap cunt
>>315767967
>Getting out your credit card
*your mother's
>>315767147
Lol there was no "before" orange box, that was the game's release date. You could buy it separately later though.
>>315754716
I think it works because the characters are basically superheroes/villains, most of the characters in the marvel universe don't look like they belong with each other, but it works because the universe is massive and slightly more futuristic. And it likely is free to play, just you can buy all the current heroes straight off. I imagine they'll try to make it work similar to the HOTS pay model.
>>315767834
But making a single player campaign actually means they have to work on a proper game, not some cookie cutter game like this. I bet it didn't even cost them much to make Overwatch at all, yet they are still asking 40/60 dollar for it.
>>315767201
You're right, so get out of my hobby since it's always been happening.
>>315767923
Show me where it says future heroes and maps won't be free.
>>315767918
>>315767923
You don't even know what the cashshop is for. How about you wait until you do instead of being cancerous shitposters shitting on things you know nothing about.
>friend was hyping this game up for months
>trying to get me to play it with him
>as soon as the pricing is announced he hasn't brought it up to me again
>>315760221
I dont think anyone was super pissed about Evolve being $60. I mean, it looks like it shoulda been cheaper with the amount of DLC it took to make the game actually good, but still, it's was a AAA game, so why the fuck not? The only reason it was a shitstorm was because it took another 50 bucks to actually add any content to the game.
>>315768130
Show me where it says they will be free.
>>315768136
THIS IS BLIZZARD, YOU ARE THE DUMBEST NIGGER ON THE PLANET IF YOU HONESTLY THINK THEY WONT FUCK YOU OVER WITH A CASH SHOP
>>315767773
Of course they don't, but it's highly prelevant among the boards on 2ch.
>>315767947
I haven't paid a penny for it yet because of that. I know just how easy they could go down that path and I want an answer before I cough up any cash.
>>315767967
I addressed that if you read my post in its entirety.
>Would it be great if they had it so you could obtain cosmetics through gameplay? Of course. But as it is there still isn't a problem.
It would be ideal for them to have some progression so the game wouldn't feel stale, but it's entirely up to them if they actually want to implement that.
>>315754632
Not only that, the developers have stated that "Overwatch was designed for consoles first".
If there was ever any reason to ignore it than the price point and the straight console shit should discourage you.
>>315768130
>asked if future heroes and maps will be free
>completely dodge acting like they don't know
>implying that doesn't mean that they will cost money
The devs probably want it all to be free while the suits will make it all cost money
>>315768161
?
Why would you not at least play it if it was free?
Sounds to me like you may just be a shitty friend.
>>315768136
>You don't even know what the cashshop is for.
Literally how_do_you_know_its_shit.jpg
A new low.
>>315768251
>but still, it's was a AAA game, so why the fuck not?
>The only reason it was a shitstorm was because it took another 50 bucks to actually add any content to the game.
Uhhhh duh?
>>315768130
>DLC
>free
i bet you think legion will be free too
>blizzard thinks they can top these voice lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM
enjoy it while it last blizzshill
hope it will not die in three months like titanfall
be sure to buy every skins and new heroes added it every month like LOL
>>315754632
it was never f2p
they wanted it on consoles
>>315768272
Exactly. There's no proof of either
Then why jump to the conclusion
>>315768315
Devs probably built it to be like HotS with free heroes and a cash shop.
Activision probably needed to recoup the costs up front and made it $40 retail to try to grab that preorder no-risk money before the hype dies down once it's actually out.
hahahaha fuck that.
Even if I were gullible enough to buy that shit, shilling a $40 f2p game to your friends is even basically impossible, word of mouth ain't gonna work.
>>315768351
>Why would you not at least play it if it was free?
When did I ever imply I wouldn't play it if it was free? I just think it was funny because he was hyping it up big time but he obviously doesn't think it's worth $40. They really think having this come out on consoles is going to make up for the difference of lost players.
>>315768490
Because they made it a point to say "current 21 heroes" and when pressed if further heroes would be free or not they declined to comment on it.
I just want to buy a new fucking game without the developer waving their dick in my face about all the shit I'm not even getting
>>315768415
TF2's characters just ooze personality and it's fantastic. If only the game wasn't unoptimized as all hell.
I hope this is a massive flop, Blizzard needs a slap of reality
>>315768518
>When did I ever imply I wouldn't play it if it was free
Because you obviously weren't even interested in the game when you and your buddy thought it was.
>I just think it was funny because he was hyping it up big time but he obviously doesn't think it's worth $40
Ehhh, pricing can affect the game's quality, main reason I bought REV2 or why Undertale is so popular is because they weren't priced way higher than they're worth.
I do agree that this game is retarded for trying to copy a f2p shooter with a 40$ price tag.
get fucked
stay out of the game you cancerous shits
I don't get it, why did people think this would be F2P? Blizzard never even hinted at the game being free. Hell, even TF2 wasn't free (and had a cash shop where you could buy items that affected gameplay) before the game started dying.
>>315768765
>buying a game months before it comes out
>pre ordering online
>pre
>ordering
>you literally cannot run out of copies
>there is nothing in it for you
>>315768765
cock sucking intensifies
>>315768765
I think most of the cancer will stay in the game.
>>315765517
you know its gonna happen nerd, with the way they just pumped out characters you know its not going to end at release
>>315768879
>Not pre ordering digital on the very day before release to bargain hunt deals AND get pre order bonuses
I do agree that guy is retarded though.
>>315768761
>Because you obviously weren't even interested in the game when you and your buddy thought it was.
I was fully ready to play it for free because TF2 is a cancerous husk of what it was and I enjoy co-op mechanics in shooters. I like when I beat people with expensive skins. Let them have the biggest cash shop they want, but I'm not going to pay for the game then.
>>315768879
you're just mad they might give me beta access
>>315755553
the fact that people thought the game was only worth playing as a f2p means thats the value they gave it.
i don't see anyone paying $40 or $60 for this game. if i want to pay for a team based shooter, i'd rather play the multitude of shooters out currently including CS:GO which is only $14.99.
blizzard is done. HOTS is a flop, hearthstone is doing ok but it looks like it has peaked and its not gaining any new players. SC2 is ded and no one is talking about the last expansion which is coming out same day as FO4.
>>315768431
>hope it will not die in three months like titanfall
>I want a game to fail just because I have to buy it instead of getting it free
Epic.
>>315768879
>he doesn't pre-order games on GMG whenever they've got discounts
It's like you don't want full price triple A releases for 30 bucks instead of 60.
>>315768765
you must be new to blizzard games
>fucking poor fags
>haha, I'm going to enjoy paying $40 just to access a cash shop
This isnt an either or situation. It isnt a choice between retail price and f2p cash shop. It is a choice between retail price + cash shop and f2p +cash shop. Are you idiots really so stupid that you'll throw money at something just to 'get rid of br ruskies,' an issue that was solved years ago with regional servers?
Or are there really this many marketeers on this vietnamese astrology forum? And were do I sign up for that job?
>no beta for pre orders because they dont have the servers for so many people
>>315768871
Because it's obviously trying to be TF2 and it just looks kind of cheap to begin with. It looks like a kind of fun, updated TF2 that didn't quite go off the deep end yet.
I think the biggest thing is that if they had told people it was going on consoles from the get-go much less people would have thought it was free.
Not to mention that Blizzards' other new games were all free to play.Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone naturally would lead you to assume that was their model now. I think it's fair.
>>315768765
This
>>315769126
>That feel when bought Mad Max because it was 30$ before release.
>Played like 2 hours of it because MGSV COMPLETELY burned me out on open world games for the next month.
Epic.
>>315769197
they're going to give all the characters for free
they learned their mistake from hots and saw how dota2 is destroying it
>>315768161
>tfw I'm that guy, but at least I stopped/slowed down my hype for the friend who's clearly not interested.
>>315755826
This game is still going to use it, though. On top of costing already.
>Good goy, now buy our new characters!
>>315769115
I'm not that anon, but if I had to choose between this game flopping and 40-60 dollars becoming the new industry standard for arena team shooters with zero campaign then I'd choose flop.
>>315769346
I hope they wake up with some fucking sense and cut the price. It seems at least sort of fun.
>>315769419
didnt they say no new invites until blizzcon is over?
The funniest thing is the retards that think since the game has a pricetag on it there won't be a cash shop.
>People trying to damage control this game this hard on /v/
Give it up already.
The damage is done.
>>315769265
I see your point, but i still think it's silly people are getting this upset their baseless assumptions aren't true. They act as if it was a fact the game would be F2P and Blizzard did a 180.
Besides, i'd rather pay 40 bucks for 21 heroes over a F2P model where i'd have to pay 8-10 bucks per hero for a grand total of 170-210 dollar, which let's face it would be the model they'd go for. It IS Blizzard, after all.
>>315769337
>they're going to give all the CURRENT characters for $40
Fixed it for you
>>315763139
all multiplayer-only games should be freemium
>>315769419
>Delete
>Favorite
m8
I understand complaining about it having a cash shop.
But why complain about B2P?
Also it's a Blizzard game, it's not going to bomb, and it wont go F2P.
New heroes will probably be added in expansion packs that take forever to come out.
Why would I play this instead of Unreal Tournament 2004?? Muh fancy graphics and big cgi butts? UT is superior in every other way besides those things and is much cheaper now as well.
IT'S HAPPENING
>>315769579
I guess they didn't get a million pre-orders so they thought they would spread more keys out in hopes of more pre-orders
>>315769627
What damage? A bunch of poorfag autists crying about having to buy somethin?
Top kek.
>>315769651
they wouldn't charge for new characters, that's just retarded and it's what killed hots
>>315769748
>still says favorites
You aren't getting anyone m8, Twitter doesn't have favorites any more.
>>315769748
Anon, you just took out the delete part from the post you already deleted.
>>315769704
UT2k4 has no servers or players
>>315763678
>why ever play new games
Because some turn out good, believe it or not. Virtua Fighter 5 made so many improvements over Virtua Fighter 1, it's not even funny.
>>315769704
>besides those things
they're the most important part tho
>>315769748
>tfw probably won't gonna get it
>>315754632
I'm more excited since it isn't free to play, but since they'll probably start selling characters with real money, I'm not gonna buy it. Blizzard will almost 100 percent try to get your money more than once for the same game, even if you payed 40 dollars for it. It'll probably go free to play too just like TF2 when their sell heroes model fails, though TF2 was for different reasons.
>>315769813
Yeah I'm sure they won't sell you more heroes or maps. No way Activision would do that
>>315769813
no, hots was dead on arrival. no one wanted an even MORE casual moba game. wouldn't have mattered if they had given out all the characters at launch for free. its a shitty game that gets boring fast.
>>315770165
they don't sell new heroes or maps in d3
If it were a free to play game, every hero would cost 10 or more bucks and you'd all be whining that it takes roughly 200 dollars to get the whole experience without mindlessly grinding for weeks at HotS's shitty currency rate. As it is now, it's 40 dollars for the entire roster. You can believe whatever the fuck you like about the game's future and how Blizzard will try to weasel its way into your wallet, but it baffles my mind that people think the above free to play model would be better. $40 for a multiplayer only unproven new IP is a bit steep, sure, but you people are fucking idiots if you haven't yet realized what a scam the free2play system generally is.
>paying 60 Freedom Bucks for a TF2 clone that will charge me for hundreds of extras
No thanks.I give Blizzard another 10 years before they lose all relevancy and finally sink. And that's me being generous.
>>315769607
Why wouldn't it? Most FPS games have a cash shop. The only way it wouldn't be a problem is if A. the items do nothing to alter game play (aka P2W) and B. There was a way to earn items in game.
It's like you guys don't play videogames.
>>315770239
they'll probably charge for expansion packs of new heroes and maps
>>315770232
no they just sold bugfix:the expansion
i was actually looking forward to playing it but now i probably never will. fucking greedy twats.
>>315770232
Yeah, they just made a real money auction house which almost killed the whole game right after release
>overwatch is $40 for current roster of 21 champions
>smite is $35 for all heroes currently released and all future heroes
A new low for blizzactivision.
Just remember, blizzactivisiondrones will defend this.
>>315763510
>Undertale
>AAA
>>315770375
sounds to me like you're the greedy twat desu
>>315770303
It's 40 online but yeah consoles make it 60 I believe.
>>315770303
Watch the reaction video of the crowd to the new World of Warcraft expansion. You can literally see the depression in players faces.
so how badly is blizzard fucking up? they killed wow, they killed diablo, they killed sc2. not only did they break up sc2 campaign into 3 separate games, but they are also adding paid DLC.
its pretty sad seeing major SC2 tournaments getting lower views than popular LoL streamers just fucking around on soloque.
>>315770404
because no one plays smite
dead games are cheap as heck
>>315767980
Tons of games nowadays are way cheaper.
If they weren't going to charge you for new heroes they would've said it straight up when the guy asked them that exact question instead of that little dance around they did that only a complete retard would believe.
>All these fags calling you poor for not wanting to waste money on this piece of shit.
Thanks, everyone. You are the reason that video games have mostly gone to shit now. No one is willing to think for themselves or question anything, and as soon as someone does, they're apparently "edgy" or "12" because you want to defend faceless corporations that don't even know or care about you. I have plenty of money, I just choose to spend it on shit that's actually worthwhile. There's a reason I bought Guilty Gear Xrd and not this. Guess which has single player and more content than just 4 maps for a comparable price to this skeleton of a game being priced in a ridiculous way.
>>315770404
Oh wow, Smite will save me $5. And how do you know you wont get all champions for Overwatch?
>>315770524
>so how badly is blizzard fucking up?
but their profit keeps going up. people love the shit they're doing.
>>315770558
Yeah, I think people sometimes forget the breadth of developers that exist. This isn't some small team in a basement, this is the largest of the large corporation.
>>315769858
I played online with my pals just a few days ago. It's not hard to make your own server.
>>315770086
How is ass the most important thing in a first person game? Did you also fall for the cosmetic items in first person shooters meme?
>>315770558
video games have always cost money retard
stop being an entitled neet poorfag and beg your mom to buy it for you like you used to do
Activision Merger was the worst thing that ever happened to Blizzard. Going from being a private owned to shareholder company ruined them.
>>315770505
Yeah I saw that. Everyone and everything in general related tot hat whole thing just looked dead.
>>315770524
Pretty badly. WoW is a fucking joke compared to what it used to be, and they know it.
Starcraft is dead.
Diablo 3 was DOA, and while currently is better than it once was, still isn't as good as it could've been.
Overwatch looks bland.
HotS is MOBA for Todlers.
HS is their only real money maker right now. It brings in more profits than WoW.
>>315770736
the ass is the most important thing in life
>>315770529
>>315770529
>>315770529
>no one plays SMITE
Nigga went full retard.
>>315770584
Saying they would be free would be great for marketing, saying they will cost would be horrible for marketing.
Now guess why they said they "don't know"
>They're probably not going to charge for new characters
http://i.pomf.pl/bctocv.webm
>>315754632
That's the Orgins edition you get.
The base game is 40$.
>>315770886
that still leaves the option for paid maps
>>315770851
>Now guess why they said they "don't know"
They never said that and you are just pulling shit out of your ass.
>>315770839
smite is basically as dead as sc2
-WoW
>They won't add microtransactions
>They won't add cashshop
>They won't add non-cosmetic microtransactions
-Diablo 3
>The 6 skills limit had nothing to do with consoles
>RMAH will be just fine
>Don't worry, we will deliver the PvP arena in a reasonable time and it'll be a good one
-Hearthstone
>There isn't powercreeped cards that makes old cards obsolete and force you to buy new cards
-Overwatch
>Adding a Field of View option will only make the game more confusing for new players
>Adding more heroes will only make the game more confusing for new players
>We will add as many hero as we can... actually nevermind that, the 21 heros is a good number, we're not sure if we're going to add more
>30 heros on level 20 achievement that was datamined from the beta, prior to the above statement
>If you buy the game, you will get all heros and maps currently announced
>"Will you put new heros/maps behind a paywall ?" It's a future decision whether or not to support more heroes. Focus on fleshing out other parts of the game right now. Want game to be healthy and not overwhelming.
>We can't simply say "no, there won't be a paywall to new heros/maps" because it's something we're considering the possibility, it all depends on how many good goys will buy and keep playing the game (in other words we will make sure to crash the game with no survivors if it goes well). If things go bad, the suit guys will force us to drop the game support we intended to :(, so no new skins, maps and heros because the game would be dead and not financially worth.
-Real life
>She is just sleeping on her male friend's house, she won't cheat on me
>She doesn't want to date me because i'm like a brother to her
>>315770967
Did you even watch the stream?
>>315770739
>bad games don't exist
>it's okay to pay money for bad games
>not wasting money on bad games means you're poor
>because Muslims have done honor killings for centuries, it's alright for them to do them now
Next you're going to tell me to waste my money on the yearly CoD rehashes.
>>315770404
That does suck when you put it that way.
I play fighting games so 40-60 dollars and 20 something characters were always the typical roster size. The difference is that this game doesn't have solo play or practice mode etc. I notice most players from gaming communities that play Blizzard, MOBA, TF2, CS:GO games seemed to have the biggest problem with the price but I never played those so I didn't get the big deal over B2P was.
>>315770967
see
>>315770886
He literally says it's a decision that they haven't made yet.
>>315770765
I think blizzard lost it once LoL became the most popular online game and esports tournament.
They're still kicking themselves for not capitalizing on a genre that started as a mod on their game.
I don't think blizzard will make any new games where you pay once and be done with it. They are constantly looking for that game that they can continue to jew people out of money. Shame really.
>>315770765
Haha thats good you saw it.
Yeah WoW drove off their most dedicated players and has essentially killed off all purpose of the game.
Everything that made WoW great was essentially removed from the game because the casual players didnt want to play the game and just wanted free loots.
Well, they got their wish. Now they sit around in town all day contemplating what went wrong, theyre literally the cancer that killing the game forcing Blizzard to conform to their "i pay for this" entitlement.
I mean just look at the Black Market Auction House. Any Joe can hit gold cap and buy achievement mounts and shit off there.
WHY EVEN HAVE ACHIEVEMENTS/ACHIEVEMENT ITEMS IF YOU CAN JUST BUY THEM. The game has becoming completely redundant.
>valve sold skins in TF2 when it was a paid game
>no one cared
>there's a chance blizzard could do it
>it's a problem
I'm not even a blizzdrone, I don't even own any of their games but the level of autism over skin selling is crazy especially when you consider what other games have done in the past and the fact that we don't know shit.
I'm actually kinda glad that this isn't F2P because the community has a chance to not be complete shit like every other F2P games out there.
>>315770837
You would hypothetically give up immortality and psychic foresight for the sake of having a big ass to squeeze and fuck every day
>>315771198
this game doesn't look bad though
also it's perfectly fine to pay money for bad games, if you don't pay for bad games you'll never get small studios because no one would want to risk making a game full time
>>315771263
They also say that they don't even know if they are going to add anymore and that they are happy with the game only having 21.
>>315771375
those things don't exist retard
There was never any proof of the game being free to play ever and honestly all the shit about this is way overblown
>>315770957
yes they are leaving the door open which is smart business. They are not trying to rape the gaming public and are focused on building a player base. It's miles better then what Evolve did.
>>315771364
>valve sold skins in TF2 when it was a paid game
Bullshit.
>>315770886
Reminder that only a retard would believe this answer.
>>315771473
Exactly why I said hypothetically. Okay, I'll rephrase it. Ass or a million dollars that cannot be spent on ass?
>>315771443
It's already been datamined that they at least are planning for the contingency of 30 heroes.
>>315771559
depends if it's a million dollar ass or not
>no single player
>competitive multiplayer with "heroes" like a dozen F2P games
>has the graphics and art style of a F2P game that looks like it's intended to run on 3rd world toasters
>confirmed to have a cash shop
>big focus on Esports circlejerking
>directly competing with F2P titles like TF2
"Nobody ever said it would be F2P guys why would you assume that?"
Looks like shit, smells like shit, tastes like shit, pay $60 for the shit.
>>315771364
its easy , the past is not the future
>happy for wasting money
oh nevermiind i'm talking with a idiot
>>315760750
>Infinite mana
>Infinite HP
>Movement speed hacks
>lods of emone at the beginning
The list goes on
>>315771010
>She is just sleeping on her male friend's house, she won't cheat on me
>She doesn't want to date me because i'm like a brother to her
Sucks man
>>315771639
40*
>>315771384
So if I don't pay for shit games, indie trash will never exist? Sounds like a great deal to me, actually. Keep that shit on newgrounds.
>>315771528
The Mann-conomy update came out well before the game went F2P
sc2 is nowhere to be seen, i have to go down further below h1z1 to see it.
overwatch is nowhere to be seen, it got old really fast and even the streamers got bored of it.
hearthstone is blizzards most popular game now but i hear its really bad for new players as they keep bringing out more and more powerful decks.
LoL is still a beast. even with nothing going on, its always top of the list.
>>315771621
It's the real life equivalent of Widowmaker
>>315771753
all studios started out as shitty indie trash studios
you'll just have the same ones we have now who took risks when it was okay to release a bad game
>>315771639
It's no less true, it was never confirmed to be F2P regardless of how bad you want to shitpost about it
>>315771834
>I only buy games that are popular on twitch
>>315771834
Did you just take that? Nice cherry picking since Overwatch is right after extra life on the list
>>315771834
the balance is restored
>>315771364
>markets change
guess what, no one is going to pay $60 + sub fee for a new MMO these days
>>315771712
>what is server sided
>>315771528
Not OP but hats were introduced in 2009, game went F2P in 2011, however this is meaningless.
Hats arent skins. Hats arent content that was originally intended to be in the game. Hats are something that were planned during conception. Hats have no effect on gameplay.
Hats were literally just a random "Hey, we made this random stuff for fun. Oh, and they can drop and you can craft them soo you can get them for free if you dont want to pay for them".
>>315771834
Why the fuck does Fifa have so many viewers?
>>315772026
I don't know
>>315771935
name one successful esport game thats isnt popular on twitch
wait, this isn't F2P?
then why the fuck would I not just play TF2 the game it's trying to emulate?
lol oh blizzard u so funnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy you fucking faggots
>>315771489
>There was never any proof of the game being free to play ever
you're right, but f2p is the value the people gave that game. a lot of people on /v/ was going to try the game to see if they liked it, including me. now that its $40, Im not going to even try it.
>>315772071
Brazilians and Yuropoors probably think it's a real game of football
>>315772089
The King of Fighters
>>315754632
>$60 for a multiplayer-only shooter
If it's not Cawadoody then it's going to fail.
>>315771935
>implying theres no correlation especially for a competitive online game
>>315772089
Who cares about esports? A game doesn't have to be popular on twitch or espiresports to be enjoyable.
Battlefield has no esports community and has a shit ton of people playing it.
Buying probably gets you all the heroes, but you have to buy any new ones. This is how blizzard is going to make money.
>>315765517
Do you seriously think Blizzard of all companies is going to turn down free money? Are you retarded?
>>315772127
because tf2 is old and boring and p2w
>>315754632
Expect this in the cash shop
>>315771384
>this game doesn't look bad though
What?
>6v6
>no mods
>no custom matches
>aimed at console players
>aimed at ESPORT console players
>gameplay is casualized TF2 but with ults and cooldowns
>multiplayer only with less content than Evolve
Fucking Blizzard
Checking email and see overwatch message, its just them trying to get me to preorder
>>315770886
>do we get more after the 21?
>well there's already 21 and 21 is a nice number and maybe there will be more than 21. okay, next question.
that man is a purple cobra in training
>>315772429
it looksfun
>>315758607
>moba model
Dota 2 is moba and you get all heroes free as they come out.
So moba model would be fine with me.
>>315754632
$89.95 but at least it's in AUD
>>315771010
Underated post.
>>315772386
>because it's
-personal opinion
-personal opinion
-p2w, sure. but Overwatch is having a cash shop in a retail game so, lesser evil is gonna have to be TF2
lol, you sure proved me wrong...
-anecdote
>>315772708
tf2 IS old
tf2 IS boring
who cares about a cash shop when it's just cosmetic shit unlike tf2's cash shop which is p2w rng bs and tf2 is full of cancerous 12 year old mexicans/russians
The Warcraft movie coming out next year will be a great way to say goodbye to Blizzard forever
like, what a perfect fucking swan song.
>>315772825
TF2 isn't boring, it's just that anyone who actually was good at the game and cared about it stopped playing. I sometimes want to get on but then remember there are like no good servers and only a bunch of kids and furfaggots playing.
>>315772825
>who cares about a cash shop
>who cares about a cash shop
>who cares about a cash shop
I dunno, who fucking cares about your dumbass opinions faggot?
you wanna argue like a retard, i'll oblige and hurl shit instead
>>315770404
>LoL is 1000+ dollars for all champions
Riot is the true evil.
>>315773068
>tf2 isn't boring it's just dead
okay
>>315773147
>when it's just cosmetic shit
you dumb or something?
>>315764093
No, its the fact that it is a 6v6 multiplayer only title that's all but confirmed to have microtransactions for cosmetics and shit.
>>315770558
Would you rather the game be F2P so you can pay 10 bucks per character?
>>315772164
It's popular in China only and thus it's in the Chinese streaming thing.
>>315773504
You'd probably end up spending less.
>>315773586
How? That'd be 210 just for the base rost.er
>>315773557
But a bunch of Latin Americans play KoF
>>315773504
If they're only going to have 4 maps, it might as well be f2p shit anyway
>>315763041
>$40
So wy does the OP say it's 60?
>>315773769
F2P games are absolute cancer and shouldn't be something anyone wants
>>315771639
>directly competing with F2P titles like TF2
TF2 is as dead as a wet fart pushed out by Jew King David.
>>315754716
>It's just TF2 2.0
Not even, even when mutilated by hat kikery and useless weapons TF2 is still a much better-designed game.
>>315773769
Do you really think the full game is only going to have 4 maps? Don't be stupid, it is going to have a load more maps and a few gamemodes.
>>315774074
I know it will have more. But for how much money?
>>315763692
It's five skins, plus a sixth on preorder, along with other skins for other blizzard titles.
>>315773957
its not just tf2, its CS:GO, destiny, battlefield, COD, etc.
>>315773703
Ok them too. But Twitch is still mainly western thing.
Found once random chink stream site and it had just fuckton of random KoF streams going.
So definitely some popularity there.
>>315773958
>Watch TF2 streamer play OW
>Chat suggests to play more TF2
>Streamer switches back to TF2
>Everything feels off and outdated
>8K viewers drop to 1.5k
lol
>>315773681
Think of it like this.
>game is free
>there are 21 heroes
>you get three starter heroes
>all heroes can be obtained through grinding
>or you can pay $2.99 for one
>you can play the game for a while, decide if you like it, then decide how much money you want to spend, if any
Which is basically Warframe's business model, and people you start greentexting hysterically that game is currently the 12th most played game on Steam ahead of Payday 2 and slightly behind Football Manager and Skyrim.
vs
>spend $40
>spend extra money on skins, heroes, fuck knows what else
Or, alternatively, Blizzard can make a game that has the standard of quality and the amount of content to be worth $40.
>>315755742
>nothing hinting at buying skins
Yeah, except for all the skins you have to buy
>>315774291
Brazil isn't the west? Granted, I know most of them are just too poor to stream.
>>315774410
>or you can pay $2.99 for one
that's not how it works
it's 10$ for one
>60 dollaroo entry fee
>DLC and microtranscations confirmed aswell
Wew, they want to have their cake and eat it too, it seems. But Blizzard fanboys will eat this shit up just like they did the horrible, horrible CGI warcraft trailer
>>315774526
It's an example doodoo breath.
most of /v/ are going to buy it anyway
I can't believe Blizzard thinks they can get away with releasing a f2p game for 100$ and still have you pay for heroes in 2015, that's just fucking outragerous.
>>315774410
>2.99
Blizzard charges 10 for a champion in HotS. Chances are, they'll cost the same in OVerwatch.
>>315774410
>>all heroes can be obtained through grinding
why do people say this? if you enjoy playing the game, then its not grinding. if you are "grinding" just to get new characters, then you shouldn't be playing the game.
>>315773837
What anime
>>315774782
>100 $
its only 60 you dipshit
>the asspain from all the poorfags that this game isn't free to play
This is like all the fags that keep whining about wanting a Bloodborne port.
>>315774949
it's only 40 moron
>>315774782
then stop buying it
>>315775070
even better
>>315774949
It is actually $40, it is $60 for the special edition.
>>315774782
it's 40 and you get all the heroes
>bawwww i'm not gonna grace this game with my presence if it isn't f2p because i don't want to spend money on games
no one cares, so stop shitposting
>>315774587
They want to have their cake and it too, and they want your cake, and they want to hire a nubile Thai boy to unceremoniously jam a third cake into their gaping anus while they do it.
>i-it's only $40
Why do I only see the $60 version being advertised?
>>315775364
Because Blizzard would much prefer you give them 60$ instead of 40$
>>315775062
It's a pay to play game with a free to play model. I'm actually happy that it's not F2P but the sell heroes model is something I hateabout League of Legends.
>>315775364
$60 on console or a "premium" version
>>315754632
>Thoughts?
Looks like money well spent. I'll be glad to be away from f2p for a while.
>>315754632
>Get the noire widowmaker skin
>AT LAUNCH
Meaning it'll be available later anyway so i'm going to wait for the cost of the game to go down or for it to get F2P
>>315774587
>optional cosmetic cash shop
If you're such a gullible goy to need cosmetics, you shouldn't be responsible for your own money
>>315775364
b-because you're too stupid to look around the webpage m-maybe
>>315768063
I disagree. Even the Marvel and DC mythos, the result of thousands of different writers and artists, still presents a more unified creative vision than this garbage Blizzard are trying to sell as entertainment
Let the shit game die in obscurity already.
>>315775609
>entire Heroes
>"cosmetic"
why did I even reply to this obvious bait?
Is the game even balanced?
I dropped TF2 years ago because all the new class weapons turned me off. Then the F2P hat bullshit started and I decided I would never come back.
It's B2P with microtransactions, also future heroes will cost money.
Blizzard went full jew with their one fucking chance to redeem themselves with a decent game and completely fucked it up with their greed.
I feel really bad for people who actually thought Blizzard would do something decent for once. At least we have Valve.
>>315775718
This is just an assumption you're making, though.
Like you made the assumption it was going to be free2play and you were wrong.
>>315769331
Poor crabbro
>>315770524
The thing that made me realize just how bad of a shape Blizzard is in was HotS. For years Blizzard's position on DotA and DotA clones was that they were just a fun fan creation and they want nothing to do with them. Even went as far as to give Valve their blessings as they made DotA 2. Then they do a complete 180 and start shilling the fuck out of their late to the party ASSFAGGOT that no one expected or asked for.
>>315775734
Why did you ever expect Overwatch to be good?
Even Anthony Burch made a better FPS/MOBA abortion.
>WoW is dying
>Hearthstone is dying
>SC2 is dead
>D3 is dead
>HotS is stillborn
>Overwatch completely dropped the ball and is now also stillborn
Holy fuck I'm laughing. Valve really is the only successful company left. Compare Hearthstones piddly little prize pool of 100k to Dota 2 and you'll see that Blizzard are nothing but cowardly penny pinching jews.
>>315775516
>It's a pay to play game with a free to play model.
Except so far it isn't at all. These are just leaps people have made to try and justify their asspain of the game not being free to play.
Some people wanted it to be F2P and thought it would be F2P because TF2 eventually became F2P. That's it.
>League of Legends.
If the game was F2P it would be far more likely it would follow the paymodel of LoL and force you to pay for every single hero, which would mean that if you got all 21 heroes at launch it would be more expensive than 40$.
Here's the thing. Many people would prefer a shittier experience so long as it's free. Why? Because they have poor or no income.
>>315775864
>Blizzard avoids the question at Blizzcon
>obvious jewery at Activision Blizzard
>moba inspired hero archetypes and hero model
>already a cosmetic cash shop in game
>>315755945
Microtransactions and its main competition is TF2 combined with the fact that they've released several other F2P games gave the impression it would be well.. F2P.
Honestly it seems pretty damn stupid to have a pay to play game when your competition is a free game. But only time will tell if this works for them.
>>315776207
Yes, so we agree it's an assumption and arguing about it is retarded.
>>315776231
What P2P multiplayer only game at that price range has actually been successful?
>>315776018
add 3 millions to that price pool for Frankfurt Major
>>315775734
>also future heroes will cost money.
No iea why you people keep jammering on about this when they haven't even talked about releasing anymore heroes after the 21 in the core game.
There are so many leaps people are taking it's downright retarded. At least try and stick to facts otherwise there will be no sensible discussion, only shitposting.
>>315775718
They aren't going to sell game altering content like champs and maps because it would kill their game. $40 gets you all the heroes and maps, then you can, if you want, to buy cosmetics.
>>315776371
he also needs to add the 18 million from TI5
>>315776319
In the last five years? I can't think of any
>>315776319
Call of Duty and Counterstrike I believe are both successful, so its not impossible. Though CS is cheaper, and CoD has built its audience up over time. For a brand new game, I kinda doubt it'll be successful, but theres been a lot of hype around this so its possible.
>>315776425
They aren't dodging questions and keeping quiet about it because it isn't going to happen retard.
They know it's going to scare people away.
>>315776207
>>Blizzard avoids the question at Blizzcon
They didn't answer the question, this can mean a lot of stuff but you think one of your assumptions is objective fact.
Do you want me to throw around baseless assumptions too?
>>315776556
Blizzard has done nothing but lie and jew their customers. Why wouldn't they now?
HotS microtransactions for heroes cost TEN FUCKING DOLLARS. It's fucked up.
They straight up lied about no more heroes, why would anyone believe what else they had to say?
>>315776425
There are also logical conclusions based on the business model of other games produced by the company and competing products along with massive implications from their refusal to address questions on the subject of their business model.
You're no better for ignoring those things out of fanboyism.
>>315757319
why is the south korean character an evangelion reference
>>315776231
>main competition is TF2
Not really, especially since they're targeting consoles as well.
>honestly it seems pretty damn stupid to have a pay to play
F2P model is terrible and should only be reserved for dead normal games to boost community numbers. The F2P model always makes the game suffer, which is something no player should want.
>>315770524
how can you think diablo 3 is killed? it sold 30 million copies and has a healthy online player base. How fucking dillusional are you that you think diablo 3, one of the highest selling games ever is dead? are you fucking retarted or something?
>>315776556
Let's make a list of reasons why they wouldn't promote the fact that future content in their upcoming game will be free:
Wow that was easy
>>315776807
TF2 is on the consoles too you know. Though their competition is even stiffer there if you count stuff like CoD.
And while F2P models are bad, Paid models with F2P models ontop of them are worse.
>d3
>pay to play
>constant new free content
>actually improving the game over time
>fun
im gonna trust blizz on this one guys
even if it takes them some time to get it fixed it will be worth it
>>315776908
csgo is paid with f2p models on top
>>315767147
>No. I bought TF2 before the Orange Box bundle.
no you didn't you fucking liar, get the fuck out.
>>315777058
Its also cheaper as well.
>>315768315
>a boo hoo dont hold me personally responsible for lying to you, its the strawman in the suit holding a gun to my head that makes me jew and screw you.
yeah, no.
>>315777132
but you only get one character :)
>>315754632
Why do you guys believe all those tabloids that it's not going to be f2p? Blizzard in no way actually acknowledged that, it's just that every outlet is clickbaiting with a headline like that.
It's still going to be f2p on release, but you will have to buy every hero. Which is why the pre-purchase of Overwatch specifically says that it contains all the heroes up until that point, while having to pay for the latter ones.
The same deal happened with HotS, no one was calling it buy2play just because you could buy yourself into the closed beta.
>>315777132
it's cheaper but you have to farm shitty casual games because the price is too low to stop people from just buying tons of copies and smurfin like crazy
>>315767147
Why do people just lie on the internet like this?
>>315777132
And because of that ban evading is really easy.
>>315776538
>They aren't dodging questions and keeping quiet about it
Here's something you're obviously not aware of. You typically do not discuss things that are not set in stone. Not only in game development but in all manner of fields.
Do I also need to explain to you why this is the case?
>>315776670
I fail to see any facts in your posts in regards to the shit people are spewing. I only ever stick to facts because if you don't then the discussion instantly becomes retarded. Why? Because everyone will just throw around baseless assumptions left and right and it quickly is lowered to the same level of a "Vs thread".
>>315776757
You can sprinke or twist words as much as you like, doesn't change the fact that they're baseless discussions.
/v/ is fucking constantly wrong about countless shit they spew about games prior to release yet people fail to learn their lesson every single time.
Stick to facts.
>fanboyism
I'm so sick and tired of idiots using this card every time they come up against a wall. Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them fanboys. You instantly turn any discussion into pure shit the moment you start to baselessly accuse people of being fanboys.
But yeah sure, call me a fanboy then, I will only ignore you since you made it clear you have no intention of taking this discussion seriously. I can't be bothered to engage in pissing contests with juveniles.
Wouldn't the game being p2p weed out the eventual hackers? To some degree anyways, CSGO is cheap as fuck and is still overrun but, still.
Game looks fun as fuck so I'm still getting it but I really was hoping it'd be free so a couple of my more cheap friends would play it with me
>>315777591
>Wouldn't the game being p2p weed out the eventual hackers?
no
>>315776908
>TF2 is on the consoles too you know.
NO ONE plays TF2 on consoles. Also TF2 is not on Xbone and PS4, which Overwatch will be and that is where most of their players will be as well.
>And while F2P models are bad, Paid models with F2P models ontop of them are worse.
You keep saying this like a mantra with no facts ot back it up. If a game has cosmetic DLC that doesn't translate to "it has the paymodel of a free to play game!".
>>315754632
I'm infinitely mory interested in cosplay than the game itself. Arena shooters should be f2p or get fucked.
>>315774308
>Catering to the drifting cloud of kids and idiots who just want to see the game that's in an exclusive beta
That's how you destroy your channel. You cater to those people, then your actual supporters abandon you, and then you're sucking a constant line of cock in the online alleyway that is Twitch.
>>315777683
They've only said there will be microtransactions, I don't think they've even specified if it would solely be cosmetic or what.
I can't tell if this 60$ thing is starting to become a meme or everyone who posts it is just genuinely retarded.
It's 40$ for the base version and 60$ for the digital deluxe you faggots.Not that the game is worth even 40$
>>315754632
>pay 60 bucks for preorder
>no beta invite
>have 10 viewers on twitch
>beta invite
kek blizzard
>>315777868
>They've only said there will be microtransactions
Microtransactions is something most AAA games have nowadays.
guess i'm not buying overwatch after all
>>315778030
>40
>>315777493
You have no reason to dismiss Blizzard's glaring unwillingness to discuss the business model of the game indicating they believe doing so will hurt sales unless you have some emotional investment, that makes you a fanboy.
>>315770505
>World of Warcraft expansion
Wait, I thought there weren't supposed to be any more new ones.
Didn't they announce that the last one was supposed to be the last and final one?
>>315778067
Its also something every F2P game has.
>>315778329
They never said anything like that.
Feel free to provide a source to prove otherwise.
>people thinking you won't be able to get the new heroes through in-game currency
>>315770687
If Valve had shareholders and posted stocks Blizzard would be a laughing stock.
>>315776018
Only because there's more jewing and drones for Valve.
>>315778293
>$70 AUD
what's that in real money?
>>315778514
valve probably has less annual revenue than EA
>>315778548
Could that be because Valve does good things though? They don't charge $10 for heroes in their MOBA. They are all free.
>>315778478
They'll probably have something to announce today when the panel starts before complaining gets really out of hand. I'm just being pessimistic honestly. Often developers don't talk about things like that since it will make people upset.
>>315778594
40 dollaridoos
>>315778478
Yes goy, grind for 50 hours to afford our new hero.
Alternatively, we offer you the convenience of unlocking it for the low low price of 10 buckaroos.
>>315778548
Valve is the only major company still heavily supporting community map-making and private servers. They built a community. You need to build a creative community. You can't just throw out an inflatable ball pit and expect everyone to jump in and be satisfied for 5 years.
>>315777658
Would people wanting to hack be really willing to throw down $40 over and over to continue hacking?
>>315770404
>dota 2 is $0 for all heroes currently released and all future heroes
smitedrones will defend this
>>315766642
It won't be just skins retard.
Whatever, enjoy eating shit
>>315778752
Do you think hackers only have ever played free games or something?
>>315778707
If you're still playing Overwatch by the time the first new character is announced, playing to earn in-game currency isn't going to make a difference to you.
>>315778843
Not at all, CSGO isn't stopped by there being a price tag, but it's much much lower than $40 and goes on sale quite often.
>>315778293
Okay faggot we all know you cunts use inflated money.
That's like me going to some fucked up country and saying hur dur The game cost 620 DOLLARS! OMFG Yet that translates to "50"
Kill your self you outback kangaroo fucker, crocodile eating shitbag, only thing you niggers are good for was influcening the production of Outback Steakhouses here in AMERICA!
>>315778193
>You have no reason to dismiss Blizzard's glaring unwillingness to discuss the business model of the game
Yes I do.
You don't discuss something that isn't set in stone for the obvious reasons that it hasn't been decided yet. This is common business practice and something I am very familiar with as a web developer and system architect.
But I suppose you think it's a good idea to do this
>yeah we will probably have X and Y in the full version
>1 month later: no actually we scrapped X and changed Y to Z, we're now considering A or B
>3 months later: yeah... we tried out A and B and neither were good but people have responded favorably to a new option C
>1 month before release: sorry we know you guys looked forward to Z but we had to scrap it due to time contraints, we also went with option B in the end
You will understand this if you ever start working in a business (and I don't mean flipping burgers at McDonalds).
>fanboy
The only one you're insulting with that word is yourself since you're basically resorting to namecalling over arguments. But if you want to be ignroed that badly then keep baselessly calling me a fanboy.
If you're not gonna take this discussion seriously then I won't take you seriously.
>>315771834
>League of Legends will never ever fuck off and die already
The games been out for 6 years, how do these teenagers still have the attention span for garbage like this?
>>315778443
>Its also something every F2P game has.
Again I fail to see your point. Batman, CoD, Assassin's Creed, etc etc etc all have tons of DLC/microtransactions. Are those games with a F2P model?The answer is no
>>315778718
>>315778642
>buying mods
>>315778707
>Yes goy, grind for 50 hours to afford our new hero.
That would have been even worse if it WAS free to play, which is apparantely what you guys want.
>>315770886
He dodged the question by spouting nonsense, if anything this 100% confirms they will be charging for more heroes. The guy couldn't have been any more direct, it was a yes or no question, and all he said was "Hurrr healthy game hurrr robust hurrr the future"
PR bullshit, as usual from blizzard.
>>315779220
>Something Valve tried to do once and it failed and hasn't happened since
>Meanwhile Blizzard makes its customers shill out the ass for all their games
Sasuga Blizzdrone.
>>315757319
> let's make tf2 with worse characters and shittier design!
> this is definitely with $40!
>>315779328
>implying
They're already planning to do it again, just modified so that the bullshit fits in our mouth.
>>315778781
Smite is also getting way more updated in terms of pretty much everything.
Dota is down to 1 hero a year and gets almost 0 content updates (or updates that are really needed). Instead pretty much all updates the game gets are tied to cosmetics.
Any idea how much Smite is getting in the meantime?
>>315779000
Do you really think they have no idea what the business model of their game will be when pre-orders are up and they're giving out Beta keys?
This game was entirely built around it's business model, it probably had a business model and a cash shop before it had gameplay.
There's only one reason to keep it under wraps, because they're afraid that whatever business model they've decided on will be negatively received and thus hurt the initial sales.
If they hadn't decided what they will do yet, they would simply say that they hadn't decided. This whole "no comment" PR bullshit is as good as them writing you a signed letter telling you what the business model is going to be with timestamped screenshots of the cash shop.
There's no way to ignore this unless you're emotionally invested in the game or company for some reason.
>>315779157
No, but those aren't multiplayer games either. If you were to compare, at least pick games that'd be more appropriate. Fighting games would be a closer analog.
That said, its a game where heroes have unique weapons/abilities made by blizzard designed around multiplayer. I can guarantee that they will sell additional heroes at some point.
>>315779486
I know you don't believe that fans have the final say in something because you are so used to Blizzard fucking your mouth. But Valve actually listens to fan feedback.
Nobody is going to let Valve try and implement paid mods again.
>>315757319
If that wasn't a tiny korean cunt spouting bullshit about nerfing and playing to win in a hot pink mech suit I would play that character
but nah
time to raise my apm XDD
Wait, wasnt this game going to be f2p? What did i miss?
>>315779680
It's funny that you're calling some guy a blizzdrone while being an obvious valvedrone.
>>315779220
>One bad thing nullifies Valve supporting a map-making community that's generated hundreds if not thousands of pretty good maps for TF2 and CS
You know. One of the more interesting parts of Valve supporting mods and map-making was that the community came up with ideas that hadn't even occurred to Valve and made them work. These ideas were then implemented. This helped to revitalize the games
If Blizzard sits on their laurels, Overwatch will have 5 maps. And they'll focus on eSports. And you'll never get more than 6v6 despite it being completely possible to get up to 12v12. And eventually you'll end up with the only players left being of the caliber of those who came up for the Overwatch Q&A yesterday.
They can learn or they can lose.
>>315779939
At least I don't have to pay $10 for a hero in my MOBA, at least I don't have to shill out $40 for my TF2 clone.
I can literally make money off Valve games, can Blizzdrones?
>>315772825
tf2 has a bunch of custom game stuff that's fun like the smash bros and wario ware servers.
>>315770505
>Watch the reaction video of the crowd to the new World of Warcraft expansion. You can literally see the depression in players faces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCaF-LmOmpo
>>315780045
>I can literally make money off Valve games, can Blizzdrones?
Ever hear of the Diablo 3 auction house?
>>315780248
Ever hear of "shut down"?
>>315779615
>Do you really think
I have said it before and I'll say it again. I stick to facts. If you want to make ignorant baseless assumptions then be my guest.
But you made it quite clear there is little point in arguing with you when you make statements like
>This game was entirely built around it's business model, it probably had a business model and a cash shop before it had gameplay.
Which has 0 basis and is simply your own baseless assumptions.
Since I only deal in facts you're not someone I will waste more time on.
>There's no way to ignore this unless you're emotionally invested in the game or company for some reason.
I haven't been a fanboy of anything in like 15 years now. I'm not a kid anymore.
You might enjoy partaking in systems wars and shit but I'm no longer a juvenile.
I stick to cold hard facts and nothing else. I'm emotionally detached to pretty much everything.
But like I said, since you decided not to take this seriously and desperately want to pursue this "hurrr u r a fanboy" over discussing the game I will ignore you since this baseless accusation shitfest you're pushing will lead nowhere.
>>315776425
http://www.overpwn.com/news/85-possible-content-teaser-overwatch-strings
>Level 20 with 30 heroes
>>315779624
>No, but those aren't multiplayer games either.
That is irrelevant. There are many games that sell characters and similar stuff but are not MP centric.
Seriously, just stop with this idiotic "they're making a b2p game but with a f2p model!".
>>315778860
And how would you know that, you ballsack-licking drone?
>>315780440
You're either autistic or you're being obtuse, probably a combination of both.
If you ask a developer a very simply question about an element that will significantly impact the game's reception, and they refuse to answer, they don't try and dress it up, they don't deflect, they don't say "we can't talk about that yet", they just say "no comment", that's as good as an admission.
If you can't see that you're either blinded by your hype for this game or a misplaced love for the company, or you lack basic social skills.
>you're not someone I will waste more time on.
You've said that three times now fanboy.
Enjoy your cash shop.
>>315760380
>I only enjoy completely serious characterization in my games
good, have fun elsewhere
>>315780543
What was the point of that post? To prove how retarded you are?
If you want to use something as backing then specificy what and where or don't bother posting it since you're just wasting everyone's time.
This is the same shit as Titanfall and Evolve.
Sad to see, sad to see the publishers lack common sense and all that effort developing the game goes to waste. Nobody wants to buy your game because it has no players because nobody wants to buy your game because it has no players. You can't make a online-only fps with bare bones content and paid DLC up the ass cost 60 bucks, that's not how it works. God. I mean I would be pissed at the shameless attempt to milk people but at this point I just already know the consumer is smarter than that and it's really just sad that this is dead before it even starts.
>>315781335
>paid DLC
nope, other than cosmetics
>$60
nope
>>315780984
I'm pretty sure that I'm being baited, but let me spell it out for you:
Datamining strings from the game proves that they have already planned on releasing more heroes. This is much heavier evidence than dancing around the question in marketing events.
>>315780603
Since you're putting it that way, can you post any proof it won't be? You seem awfully sure that its not going to follow a model similar to F2P games.
And before you ask, wheres my proof? I don't have any definitive proof either. I can however look at games similar to it, and conclude that it will likely follow a model thats also similar. Its a hero centric game where each hero has their own abilities and weapons. Its essentially following the Moba strategy, without the annoying moba bullshit. Hell, its literally the same model as Block n Load as well. All of those games follow the same model in that they sell cosmetics ontop of selling heroes individually, and why? Because it benefits them more than anything.
Hell, multiplayer games in general have been slowly moving towards F2P because the market isn't supporting the Paid model as much these days. For a new IP that just came out, it'd be rather surprising if they didn't go down this path. That said, it largely depends on its initial success. A large enough success, especially on consoles, could be enough for them to go purely DLC though I do doubt that'll happen.
>>315781504
Well I could argue semantics now but my point remains the same. I wasn't really looking for a debate, if you legitimately think this is gonna go anywhere, more power to you.
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