Why does Nintendo prefer to advertise a mediocre tennis game over a game that would actually sell some fucking units?
treehouse is pocketing the advertising budget
>>315744556
I hope Mario Tennis bombs. I really fucking do.
>>315744827
I really hope it does too. Same with Yokai Watch.
>>315744827
It wont though. Mario is the one game people usually get when they buy a new Nintendo console and one that everyone can enjoy regardless of if they're a 'gamer' or not. There's a reason they keep churning out shite Mario games and that reason is because people will keep buying them until the heat death of the universe.
>>315744827
>>315744927
It will outsell bloodborne.
>>315744556
I saw an ad for Xenoblade X in Europe. And I haven't seen an ad for Tennis.
But I haven't seen many ads for games at all so I wouldn't really take my anecdote to be worth anything.
>>315744963
Slapping Mario on front isn't enough to get people interested anymore.
>>315744982
So it will sell more games than WiiUs?
Anyone else love NLA at night?
http://strawpoll.me/5936605
>>315745075
Yep. If you haven't noiticed nintendo dominates in software sales. Tennis will outsell ps4 hardware.and run at 60 fps
>>315745218
Can you change the time like in XC?
>>315744963
>buying a wii u for mario tennis
lol
>>315745218
Where are the shadows?!
Because the mediocre tennis game takes nearly no effort to localize and the Treehouse and NoA are full of lazy shits who'd rather play Animal Crossing and spout memes than do their goddamn JOBS.
If they don't advertize, it won't sell, and then they can justify not working on future installments of a dialogue-heavy niche series that didn't even appeal to them in the first place.
>>315745390
>Tennis will outsell ps4 hardware
That's nothing to be proud of. In fact, it's embarrassing. A barebones, sterile Tennis game? It makes the Nintendo fanbase look casual as fuck.
>>315745476
Yes but not directly. Instead there's rest outposts littered throughout the game that you use to go to certain times.
>>315745527
Up your arse.
>>315744556
NoA's a bunch of retards who don't want to take risks, but just when they feel they're in the safe zone, they go right ahead and blow the entire marketing budget on the safe game in question to underwhelming numbers and reviews. So essentially, we got two games that underperform because nobody knows how business works.
Look at how Splatoon did in the States compared to Europe and Japan, and divide each figure by the population density. Watch Triforce Heroes and Suicide Watch come out to highly underwhelming numbers too.Kimishima needs to fire some nigga.
>>315745562
i really hate those treehouse faggots now.
>captcha: select all images with trees
More night-time NLA
>>315744556
What Nintendo should do:
1. Advertise Mario Tennis to hell and back
2. Rake in the money
3. Use that money to advertise the fuck out of Xenoblade X
And remember, Nintendo can still advertise Xenoblade X even after it's release in the west.
>>315745982
night time NLA is pretty comfy
https://youtu.be/ObrQAAsJ4vo?t=2m32s
>>315744556
> a game that would actually sell some fucking units
JRPGs have been dead for years. Casual sports games are where it's at
Nintendo still be advertising Mario Maker in 20 years time LOL
>>315745527
They're waiting until a bit closer to release to do a marketing blitz more likely. They sort of did the same thing with TFH. Even now, I still see ads for that game every day.
>>315746397
Yeah. They'll market it, it's too early yet. I can see them starting halfway through Nov
Because the people who are interested in Xenoblade or games like it are already aware of it. And the average person who marketing will be targeted at probably won't be spurred into buying a JRPG with an androgynous looking cast and fantasy mecha in it even if they see an advert for it.
Meanwhile, the average person knows what Tennis is, they know what Mario is, hey look, it's the sport you watched on TV or maybe even played and it's got that videogame plumber guy in it! Buy it!
Because the mediocre tennis game is actually the one making them more money?
>>315746662
>fantasy mecha
fucking lol
>>315746750
Casuals stopped buying Nintendo products en masse anon, it's why the Wii U is in such a shitty place to begin with. The truth is, the only ones that truly buy the console are those who grew up with Nintendo and are still clinging to its past. Unless of course you live in Japan, (which I do) and it actually is just Japanese kids that have the damn things.
>>315746830
I'm talking as someone who has little interest and therefore knowledge of the game. Don't these titles mix magic and robots in some way? All I know is the combat system doesn't look very fun to me personally.
>>315746750
>Wii U is owned mostly by kids and casuals,
That's the PS4 you know just going by the numbers sold and games available.
Look at this way. The more Wii U's Mario Tennis sells. The higher the chance that the people who buy those Wii U's will be more inclined to buy Xenoblade or atleast take somewhat of an interest in it. They can still advertise Xenoblade after it's release.
>>315744556
Because they have no faith in the product they are dishing out. Why they took it up in the first place is beyond me.
Anyone who doesn't know about this game absolutely has to be casual and that's all mainstream marketing targets anyway (by /v/'s definition of casual). Do you really want a massive casual fanbase that screws up any possible future installments by catering towards them?
>>315747000
...
>>315744827
It's probably low budget enough that 100k sales will make it a success.
>>315747178
Considering the localization, I'd say it's too late for that. NoA is incredibly out of touch, why Reggie still has a job is beyond me.
>>315747275
Are you a JRPG character yourself? If not then fuck off with the ellipses.
>>315744556
I've seen plenty of XenoX preorder posters and videos on FUCKING GAMESTOP.
Also, they are quite pushing it on social media, Twitter and the likes. I guess for the average american no TV ads means "No marketing".
>>315747000
It's a bit sad you don't know much about this game. Do you own a Wii U?
>>315747000
First of all, it's a science-fiction game. And the Mechs (referred to as Skells in the game) use weapons; swords, guns, rockets etc
Also, most JRPG systems never look fun. It's a different story when you're actually playing them. Everyone who's played XBX (at PAX, and other showfloor's have found it a joy to play)
>>315747513
Wow, could you possibly be a bigger shill?
I liire the game, but holy shit dude. Is someone paying you?
>referred to as Skells in the game
Fuck off with your unnecessary bullshit.
>>315747408
looks sick.
>>315747624
no you
>>315747624
He's just schooling an ignorant casual. Nothing wrong with that.
>NOA doesnt market game at all because "It's only gonna sell to xenoblade enthusiasts anyway guise, and they already all know about it!"
>NOA rapes the localisation because "muh mass appeal to everyone! Wouldn't want to offend anybody!! Plus no one will understand these references! "
I fucking hate NOA, goddamn fuckwits. Can't wait for the big one to hit cali and kill these libtard faggots
Nintendo of Europe > America
Something's wrong at NoA
>>315744556
Too busy trying to chase that sweet sweet pokemon/autist money with Yokai Watch.
Because it's not mario.
>>315744556
Isn't Mario Tennis out first?
And what advertisements?
>>315746750
>Wii U is owned mostly by kids and casuals
That'd be the PSBone nigga, that's why the WiiU died. The hardcore are in the minority.
>>315746976
>Casuals stopped buying Nintendo products en masse anon, it's why the Wii U is in such a shitty place to begin with
You know what annoys me most about how the WiiU was handled? The fucking mixed messages from NoA
>Market the WiiU as the Wii-2 in 2012/early 2013
>It bombs
>Market it as a console for the "core" as opposed to the casuals in late 2013 and 2014
>People get hyped and it does a lot better
>2015 rolls along and now they're marketing it specifically for kids
Make up your fucking mind cunts. Sounds like you ought to go after the core since they'll at least buy more than one fucking piece of software.
>>315747408
I do own a Wii-U, yes. I bought it for Splatoon, Starfox and anything else I find interesting.
>>315747513
That sounds cool, but JRPGs have never really appealed to me. I've never enjoyed any of the Final Fantasy games, the ones I have enjoyed have been more like action games than RPGs (Dragon's Dogma, and I can't really think of any others. Nier?). I do know that you can't control the robots directly like in Armored Core, so their appeal is limited.
>>315747860
The advertising hasn't begun yet you idiot. They have a game coming out before it.
>>315747984
That costume looks absolutely horrid and whoever thought it was a good idea should be fired.
>>315750676
Bullshit. You have bad taste sempai.
>>315750329
Eat shit, the game has has one youtube vid on their channel in the last 30 days, meanwhile fag ass mario tennis, yokai watch and other garbage have had many videos for each
Xenoblade X is their ONLY huge title for this system and the only title for the Wii U that makes the system look impressive. And the goddamn game is out in less than 30 days.
This shit right here is why the Wii U is a fucking failure and other consoles sell like fucking mad. Nintendo is the ultimate cheap skate kikes in the gaming industry, and refuses to spend money on advertising and any advertising they do is bare bones and easily missed
I'm honestly praying for NX to crash and burn so maybe monolithsoft can go make games for a platform that is actually worth investing in, this shit is a fucking joke. Xenoblade X is the only game i've been genuinely hyped for since the ps2/dreamcast/gamecube gen and I'm stuck buying a stillbrith console thats going to be axed in a year, that STILL has no fucking proper price cut because nintendo are greedy stubborn kikes
Its fucking bullshit. Nintendo needs to fuck off from gaming because they totally suck dick at doing anything right anymore
>>315750902
Whoa calm that edge son.
I've been watching combat videos on YouTube but I'm still unsure. How does it work? Is it like what I'd think of as traditional JRPG, where your character's actions are largely separate to input? (press A for flashy attack that you don't control) Or is it more like an action game, where you actually have to aim and press buttons to swing your sword/fire your gun/whatever?
It kind of reminds me of Monster Hunter but it looks largely like the former style, which doesn't appeal.
>>315751150
It's a bit like FF12 in that everything is time based with free movement.
>>315750853
>can't have "girls" in bikinis with "sexualizing" shit put on them (which means they were wearing MORE than your average person in a swimsuit) because that's child porn in Australia
>can have "girls" in skintight suits that leave almost nothing to the imagination
The system works.
NoA wants an excuse to not bring the next one over.
>>315744556
witcher 3 outsold it in japan
>>315751227
Not bare skin = A-OK
>>315750853
>implying
Do you enjoy eating shit?
>Xenoblade
>moving consoles
this is how deluded /v/ is
bet you think starfox or metroid would sell units as well
>>315750285
You can control the mechs in XCX directly. What are you on about?
>>315751579
You can? Cool, I had heard you could drive them around like cars but that they were only special abilities in combat.
Do they control similarly to ACs? I know they're not the sole focus so in depth movement/combat capability is probably a bit much to hope for, but it would be nice. Can you customise their weapons and parts?
>>315744927
I'm not against Yokai Watch. It's mostly Level 5 trying to build a base. Mario Tennis however looks like an awful cash in that has no redeeming qualities. I'm just really pissed NoA isn't even bother talking about X like they are hoping it dies off so they just can localize easy shit games like Mario.
NINTENDO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT NON ICONIC IP'S
Seriously though I hate how nintendo only pushes. Mario and zelda and garbage like that. I usually like the non Iconic IP's or the second or third parties on the nintendo consoles.
Fuck DK,Mario,Zelda and all of those games played them once played them all
>>315750853
How does the zero suit look like if the wet gauge is completely full?
>>315751841
You can customise their weapons but you can't change their parts. You can change the colour of each individual part though and there's different types of mechs you can buy.
>>315750258
It really is amazing how badly NoA fucks shit up. They seem to do alright with Bayonetta 2 with trying to capture the "hardcore" audience. And a year later they go right back at acting like our fucking parents with Fatal Frame and now Xenoblade X. I'm still going to get it but man did NoA really destroy all major hype I had for it.
>>315744556
because you are not their core audience... nobody is
>>315752578
>They seem to do alright with Bayonetta 2 with trying to capture the "hardcore" audience.
Did you read the story behind that? The people at platinum were worried and was thinking about toning bayonetta down and the people at nintendo actually encouraged the lewdness and told them to basically go nuts.
What the FUCK happened?
>>315751841
There's some customization but don't expect armored core level customization, or anything close.
>>315752578
My hype isn't determined by NoA. I'm not a little baby; I can get hype just from knowing that it's a fucking JRPG from Takahashi & his team.
>>315752664
They failed to realise, like they have done for the past 10 fucking years, that a single game for the core isn't going to fucking cut it. They're the "core" for the reason. They don't buy consoles for one game, you've got to have a shit load of worthwhile games.
But nah, they didn't get immediate results so they went straight back to looking for the kids.
>>315752826
Miyamoto is also always banging on about kids. I think he's a pedo.
>>315752664
It's NoJ you are talking about. NoJ are fine since Japan doesn't give a fuck if a kids game as sex in it. NoA however feel they need to act like out mommies and daddies. Where if anything has questionable stuff in it they have to remove it. My guess is that NoJ went to NoA and forced them to keep everything because they felt this was their one game to sell to the "hardcore" gamer.
>>315752706
To me a poor localization can hurt a JRPG. As I said I'm still happy we are getting it and can't wait to play. But I would feel much better if NoE were doing it or someone that didn't has a history of censoring what they feel is questionable art.
>>315752887
Agreed. Reggie loves the kids so fucking much I'm convinced he's a pedo.
Hell he cut the E3 down to a child friendly husk
>>315752912
NoE right now is doing their own thing as seen with Project Zero, at this point I have moderate hopes they won't fuck this one up and we will get a (mostly) uncesored release in Europe
>Xeno X won't sell a million units
>It will be lucky to even break 500k
Did Monolith Soft waste their time? Should they stick to handheld RPGs? Why spend 4/5 years on a nintendo console game in this day and age?
Why can't NoA outsource localizations that aren't mario or other regular nintendo games to other companies so we don't get bullshit like FF5 or XCX getting censored?
Once the game is out we should make a XCX avatar thread & post our avatars.
What colour hair are you going to give your avatar?
>>315753161
NoA would mostly force it anyways. They seem to have the same censorship guidelines from the 90's. The only reason Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii was fine was because Nintendo was just super lazy and didn't want to do any work.
>>315744556
> Nintendo
There you have your answer, the company is synonymous for retardation. And I'm saying that as a Nintendofag.
>>315753294
Can I make my female character human looking or does it HAVE to be a potato?
>>315753159
Christ just shut the fuck up, goddamn
>>315753294
gonna make the qt to end all qts and give her Fiora's voice
Also natural redhead if they have it
>>315753294
can I make a flat loli
if not I'm going to make a male character or some shit
>>315752674
What about the combat? I've looked and it seems just as hands off as the default, on foot combat; almost the same instead you can float.
I just don't find that kind of combat fun. I don't get anything out of turn based combat, or anything which abstracts it. I loved Dragon's Dogma for that reason, it was a JRPG but with actually enjoyable combat mechanics.
>>315753159
you might want to see Xenosaga sales, salesfag. Install base of console doesn't matter.
games don't need to be sold millions day one to be considered success.
also you are pretty pathetic, as most of other people, to worry about sales at all. It doesn't matter to you or to anyone else aside of devs and publisher.
Especially considering sequel already in development.
I really would love for salesfags to show their numbers back into their asses.
>>315753294
but I already made one
>>315753360
Fire Emblem IF is gonna get reamed with censorship from NoA, probably gonna cut the entire mode with the face touching.
>>315753161
Publishers oversee the projects even if they do not directly work on the translation, like with FEA (8-4) and BD (Binari Sonori, but the changes were due to SE).
>>315753387
Human looking? Sorry anon this isnt western RPG #24563277843
>>315753487
Play Chronicles already and fuck off. Why being so desperate to be spoonfed when you can get idea about combat by just playing chronicles for a bit.
>>315753476
Shit yeah. Redhead all the way.
>>315753502
>Getting this flustered about my post
My point was the game probably deserves more success than it will get. But due to lack of Nintendo pushing it, it will probably not achieve it. Like Splatoon sold 1.5 million because it was actually marketed but this wouldn't.
>>315753487
The battle system is action-packed and energetic. Doesn't get any better than that.
>>315753690
and how does that matter to you?
like really?
You need to have numbers or someone else to approve your enjoyment of the game or something? Can't you have an own opinion?
Only sale which matters is one you make for yourself. That's it.
Everyone else can fuck off. They don't matter.
I just finished the original Xenoblade yesterday and now I'm hyped as hell for this. It's one of the games I even bought my Wii U for.
>>315753840
He's not saying he can't enjoy the game if its sales aren't too great. He's simply saying the game deserves to sell more than what it will. How is that a bad thing?
>>315753738
What's action packed about managing a skillbar with cooldowns?
I guess you could say it's more "action" than turn based RPGs, but the one in XB is still just a bland MMO template, there's better stuff in the genre.
>>315753840
Because of the game bombs ypu just know the execs and boardroom comittees will decide that this is due to lack or interest i ln the game rather than lack of marketing; so it becomes less likely that they try and publish more games.
>>315744556
Because they knew you'd get butthurt over it and complain about it on an anonymous imageboard
>>315754020
Like not being able to move around while choosing attacks from a menu? How is that any better?
>>315753840
>Why do you want something you enjoy to be a success and not a failure
I been waiting for this game for a very long time for many reasons. I do wish Nintendo at least do 1 major advertisement for the game to make sure it gets the word out to other gamers that haven't heard about it.
In a way I kinda wish it wasn't on Wii U. I would like the graphics to be better on this game. I bet it would look so much more awesome on a better system.
>>315753840
Not him but sales do matter on the long run, as IPs risk getting shelved or heavily altered in order to attain more success, which usually does not mean simply getting even.
Just in Nintendo's case, think of Advance Wars (rebooted and killed), Fire Emblem and most recently Chibi Robo.
>>315752318
They were throwing Bayonetta 2 ads on Adult Swim around its release
>>315753840
>this post
>>315753954
Because it's useless wishful thinking.
It's a niche game, it'll never break any records under any circumstances. Ones who care about this niche, will get it. That's it.
Faggots who want it to sell millions don't know what they talk about.
>>315754052
look Xenosaga sales again, if that'd be true, nobody would fund Monolith to make another game.
in /v/ opinion every game which didn't sold millions on launch - bombs. which is laughable and trashy opinion.
>>315754120
>I can't have my own opinion
>I need someone to endorse my opinion as right one
nah
>>315754205
Look Xenosaga sales. Quite a lot of games sells not so much, yet still regain niche series.
Why the heck anyone else should care about some company business? It's not revelant to you. If you like game - talk about game with people who might be interested in it. Wishing for huge sales and blaming platform or something - is not talking about game.
>>315754107
Movement in XBC served only for certain skills that needed the side or back of the enemy, it's not like you could physically dodge oncoming attacks so I find it worthless.
As for interesting combat systems, I enjoy what I've played of Tri-Ace's games as they always create interesting system mechancs. There's also obvious stuff like Dragon's Dogma and Souls, but I'd say that even the Mario RPGs are more active than XB's rotation of skills.
>>315754618
You couldn't actively dodge incoming attacks in turn based RPGs either. Dodging is gay anyway.
>>315754512
Xenosaga was Namco's and it was also 10 years ago.
From what we know, IntSys would have needed to sell around 700k units to make a profit off of a console FE, and with even on handhelds the series risked being shelved with less than half of that target.
Nintendo in particular does not like to keep around "niche" series as they aim for a certain level of mainstream success with all of them, and in the long run it may end up getting the IP shelved or it's budget heavily cut, as was the case with the likes of Star Fox, a multi million seller on SNES and 64.
>>315754768
Not him but I agree that mmo-like combat isn't 'action-packed' or 'energetic', unless you are comparing them with turn based RPGs, which is unsurprising as those tend to be about as energetic as an excel spreadsheet.
>>315755001
>From what we know, IntSys would have needed to sell around 700k units to make a profit off of a console FE
source? I may have missed that.
If source is legit - I'll stand corrected.
Still, I stand by point that worrying about sales is waste of time for many. If one series get shelved - another one will emerge sooner or later.
But there is a chance that I'm this dismissive to future games because I have almost endless backlog thanks to living in 3rd country and never having a consoles until few years back.
>>315755235
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/07/nintendo_wii_u_fire_emblem_would_need_to_sell_700k_to_justify_the_effort
It was specifically about Wii U, which I didn't remember, so a "HD" FE.
>>315755708
I see.
Well, let's say XCX will sell 500-700k what is >>315753159 this anon is so afraid of.
It's a Wii U game.
Whole /v/, including that anon, will call game being "bombed" in sales, while it can actually pay off development costs judging by source.
(yeah, different genres, but we don't know figures, considering amount of characters in FE, which will increase amount of voice acting and amount of cutscenes because game is story driven - FE can be even more expensive).
In the end game will be profitable, just barely but profitable, console will get another game to the library, and it'll keep series and company afloat. Yet /v/ will still whine about game being bombed, that it sold "101" copies, that it should be on console with bigger install base or something like that.
Don't you think that such whining is complete waste of everyone's time? Sales figures for niche games will always be considered "bombed" here, cause it's nice ammunition for shitposting.
That's why I ask - why care about sales? Only copy which matters is one you bought and one you played.
That's it.
>>315756482
>That's why I ask - why care about sales?
This. Monolith Soft already started to make Xenoblade 3 despite fail/success in the West for previous title.
>>315757956
>despite fail/success in the West for previous title.
precisely.
Look at niche JP only games. Like SRW for example. Series is insanely old and very niche especially lately. Doesn't sell all that much. Yet it still going.
Or at Kunio-kun games. Or others series which will never see the light in the west? Or franchise related games, like Kamen Rider ones or Macross ones (it's not just tie-ins, Macross 30 probably best Macross game out there). List goes on and on.
Amount of JP only game series which manage to still exist in pretty small market withing one country is enough to understand that people overstimate amount of sales needed.
And yet they still worry about basically nothing.
>>315757956
Will it be for Wii U or NX?
That English dub in the gamexplain videos sounds absolutely terrible. Elma's VA is awful, she sounds stiff as fuck and bored.
All I know is that it's censored and was the only reason I'd have bought a Wii U. But not like this.
>>315759219
Next Nintendo console whatever it is.
>General Sword -> Duelist
>Heavy Striker -> Bastion Warrior
>Star Crusader -> Astral Crusader
>Elite Planner -> Mastermind
>Galaxy Knight -> Galactic Knight
AGAIN, WHY
AGAIN, FOR WHAT PURPOSE
I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHY DID THEY TURN ENGLISH INTO DIFFERENT ENGLISH?
Full Metal Jaguar is the only one left untouched, thank goodness.
Force -> Enforcer I think seems alright. Same as Command -> Commando. But I think they made the end tier names a bit more messy, especially by making two of them blatantly ignore the convention of using two words, and two of them completely changing the feel / impression of the class name.
>>315759757
General Sword sounds kinda weird. Do you mean a general sword user? In which case why not swordsman? Or do you mean a sword-wielding general?
Bastion Warrior sounds pretty cool overall, especially in terms of tanky behavior. Heavy Striker sounds more like high DPS stuff.
Astral Crusader is literally ephemeral, why the fuck would this need to be changed?
Mastermind sounds just as good as Elite Planner, though again why change it?
>Galaxy -> Galactic
I can't really understand this one beyond Treehouse really trying to pretend they have relevancy.
>>315759757
I dunno, maybe they're just egotistical and want to hear people say what they wrote. A lot of the discussion will be about these classes so that's a one of the best things to change if that's your goal. I think they changed the word doll for the same reason.
>XCX
>sell
Pick one.
>>315744556
Mario Tennis will definitely sell more
Yfw
>>315759757
>localization that changes moves with katakana
literally the worst thing you can do unless its a case of Japanese stringing English words together to look cool.
Even the incompetent PSO2 fan translators know this.
>>315760331
I think that Bastion Crusher probably would have been better than Bastion Warrior. Still gets the feeling of 'heavy striker' across, while also alluding to the fact that it uses a shield as a weapon.
I agree that General Sword sounded kind of weird, but "Duelist" doesn't sound nearly as elite as the other ones. It branches off of Samurai Gunner, so maybe it's supposed to try and get some kind of wild west shooter feel to it... but it just doesn't feel that way. At the very least it could have used a second word? Duelist King? I don't fucking know.
The least they could have done is turn Mastermind into Master Mind. It would immediately sound less villainous.
>>315744927
>>315745669
>>315748239
>>315750902
Why are people taking their hate out on Yokai Watch? Their trying to get 3rd Party support from Level 5. I can understand Mario Tennis.
>>315760773
We're still talking about the names, right? In whatever case, the class names were already in English, I believe.
>>315761051
names moves and all that I know they are already in english katakana is how Japanese people pronounce and write shit that's not in their language.
Translate this page all of the arts are kata like PSO2 also lets play a little game to see how much they will fuck up the kana translations
http://www46.atwiki.jp/xenobladex/pages/9.html
Most if not all (still combing through it) are fine and can be LITERALLY copied 1:1 over to the US release.
>>315753294
I'm gonna try to make Doom Guy.
>>315761271
Well yeah, since the characters typically call out their attacks in English.
On the bright side, it seems that the Skell names have been left untouched. I noticed Mastema, Wels, and Amdusias in the GameXplain videos.
>>315745262
>People saying they don't mind censorship
I hope you're all being ironic, there's an option right there to still like the game but not be okay with having content cut.
So which character is going to say "thank Mr skelltal"
>>315761973
Thanks Mr. Skelltal
>>315745262
>http://strawpoll.me/5936605
How about "Yes, I just wish there weren't so many changes just for the sake of making changes."
I think that, ultimately, not a lot of it was actually censorship. Aside from the armour bikini for Potato, I mean. Some of the changes feel like they were made with the best of intentions. Make it flow better, make it sound less made up, try to make it fit the setting better because some Japanese naming conventions don't translate too well into the West... (The fuck is a Colepedian, even?)
I think they went a bit too far, but I don't think it was active censorship, particularly not of religious references if Amdusias and Mastema were somehow left be. I think the religious references in the BLADE acronym and Union names were just coincidental collateral damage to try and make everything fit/flow better.
>>315762115
None. It was a joke.
>>315753805
Cute.
>>315759757
The original titles all sound thoroughly Engrish.
>>315762752
>Star Crusader
>Galaxy Knight
These seriously sound Engrish to you?
The only one that I could seriously see as feeling... well, like it doesn't quite convey anything, is General Sword.
>jrpg not called final fantasy, pokemon or dragon quest
>selling some units
>>315762884
General Sword sounds like the man who works above Major Axe and Colonel Spear.
>>315744556
>>315744827
>>315744927
The shitposting smells horrible today. You kids need to stop browsing /v/ and do your homework.
>>315763187
If armies handed out nicknames / tittles like Full Metal Alchemist or the Heroes' Association in that manner, I feel like it might raise morale.
>>315744556
Just because autists are Nintendo's main market, doesn't mean they're the only market
>>315763424
They pretty much are at this point. All the kids and casuals have a 3ds for Nintendo games and Xbone/PS4 for actual games. Only diehard Nintendrones are excited for every Wii U release.
Is it true they removed the breast slider from Xenoblade X too?
>>315763748
No way, I can't be Sharla 2.0?
>>315763748
who lied to you?
>>315763748
Yeah it was confirmed gone in some videos of the English build.
>>315764010
source
>>315764132
I work for 8-4
>>315762108
Will this be censored?
>>315764010
Why the hell aren't people throwing a bigger shit fit about this? It's a way worse act of censorship than Lin.
>>315764261
Because there's no tangible proof. It could be yet another wild bullshit claim.
>>315763748
I literally don't believe this.
>mfw Mario makes weaboos fucking E N R A G E D
>>315764132
Gamexplain videos from yesterday
>>315764342
it probably is.
>muh censorship
is very nicely working bait nowadays
>>315764402
What the hell are you even talking about you flaming retard?
>>315744556
Is /v/ so deluded that they think this will actually sell a significant amount in America? This is beyond niche, even with advertising, it wouldn't sell shit
>>315764420
okay so you're bullshitting then
unless you can link this video (which doesn't exist)
>>315764420
None of the videos showed the character creation screen.
>>315764420
I watched all of them, I don't even remember seeing the character creator.
>>315764508
I am talking about the fact that I have read the thread and the conclusion that I have drawn from it is that the existence of Mario™ from the Super Mario™ franchise makes anime video game enthusiasts mad. Your response is only backing up the results of my analysis.
TL;DR: Paper Jam will sell gangbusters and Xenoblade X will bomb even though they are in the same genre and release on the same day because the former has Mario's face on it, regardless of its actual quality.
Get fucked.
>>315759458
Honestly, none of the English VA sounded good at all.
I hope this game will bomb.
Noting personnel, nintenchums.
>>315764860
Is this nigger serious
You are one persecuted little drone aren't you
>>315764860
>No evidence aside from someone calling you a retard for mentioning something completely unrelated completely out of the blue
>No reasoning for why this would be the case
Please ignore this person. They're trying to stir up shit.
>>315764885
>>315759458
I thought they were passable.
>>315765062
Elma sounds bored as fuck in all of her lines. Which is disappointing since her JP VA did such a good job.
>>315765062
>something completely unrelated and completely out of the blue
>thread is a bunch of people crying about mario fucking tennis
>>315764885
I had my expectations set at rock bottom and I'm pleasantly surprised. Lin's voice is fitting and the britbongs are back. The rest are meh but that's still better than what I was expecting.
>>315765062
>Mario has NOTHING to do with this thread!
This is literally the third post. The THIRD post.
>>315744827
>>315744827
>>315744827
>>315763925
>>315763850
>dont worry, we're changing that
>weaboo passive-aggressiveness
I don't think there's a better kind of salt.
>>315765256
>>315765154
Ah.
You're right. I completely forgot the OP and following posts, and was just treating this as the usual Xenoblade thread.
My bad.
...I still think that post is just trying to stir up shit, though.
Has this series gotten any better at all over the last few titles? The only one I played was Xenosaga years ago, and that game bored me to tears, which is why I haven't had any interest in playing any of the other ones. Have they improved any?
>One of the female avatar voices is Rina Sato
They better include JP audio or I'm mad as fuck
>watch one of gamexplain's videos
>lyn shouting "Hey hold still!" every 5 seconds
jesus christ
>>315765659
>dual audio
ahahahaha
I wish Sony was releasing it.
>>315765659
Watch as NoA only give you 2-3 voices for each gender compared to the asston you get in the Japanese version.
>>315764226
hopefully.
>>315765910
Thats probably what's going to happen, in all honesty.
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>>315759458
>>315764885
This game better fucking have dual-audio. I need my goddess voicing Elma!
>>315764860
>>315764860
nigga what?
>>315766430
It won't. Best bet we have is DLC dual audio months after release.
HEY, HOLD STILL
>>315746130
This is honestly what they're going to do. I mean, they just uploaded a Monster Hunter 4 skit to their YouTube channel. Nintendo is serious about keeping games relevant throughout their life cycle.
>still no survival guide 3
what are they doing
>>315744556
I own a Wii U.
No amount of advertising could get me to buy either of those games.
I genuinely hope this bombs. Not to take a stab at Nintendo fans, but because Nintendo needs to see that their localization policies are twenty years out of date and all they did was alienate the people who actually wanted the game. They don't realize that casuals don't want super niche JRPGs no matter how much they try to appeal to them.
>>315766591
As long as they do it like Square did with Drakengard 3 I would have no problem with it.
>>315765659
The game already requires a huge day-one patch because it doesn't all fit on the disc. Dual audio probably isn't very high on NoA's priority list.
>>315768103
>game doesn't sell at all
>obviously it was the translator's fault
no, the conclusion they will have is that nobody wants a xeno game or a jrpg
>>315768246
How was that done?
>>315768336
Its not a day one patch, its a 10 gig data pack if you want to minimize loading and shit and that's only for those who get the physical release and its not mandatory, but it does help.
>>315768469
It was at first only for those who bought the LE because Square said getting the contract fees was tough so they said it would offset the costs and the people who would get the LE were probably those people who even cared.
They eventually decided to put it on PSN a few months later, probably because it didn't exactly make a difference since the game sold like shit here, so instead make anyone who didn't get the LE pay $5 instead. The kicker was that it was over 10 gigs of uncompressed data.
>>315768336
>day-one patch
that's not AAA release you are so used to, anon.
overall game was patched once after few weeks in JP, minor fixes to improve stability. That's it.
Game doesn't have glitches.
>>315744556
>JRPG
>selling in the west
Xenoblade isn't that popular
Being on the marketing team at NoA must be the easiest fucking job in the world.
>>315744556
Cause it wont. That game is 6/10 at best
Bottomless Elma please.
So when it comes out will any of you fags be doing a comparison to what got censored and what didnt?
Cause if the loli is all that gets touched i'll buy, if its the whole shit then i'll consider getting the EU version. But wait that would mean I need a EU wii u right? fuck this shit.
>>315770417
I'm sure you could find this out by harassing a reviewer.
Xenoblade X and Fallout 4 are almost the same size when it comes to data
>>315770417
The PAL version is the same, Nintendo wastes money with double localizations only on games that they think will sell.
>>315762479
>None. It was a joke.
how do you know that?
>>315770417
>loli
Puffy vulva.
>>315744927
Yo Kai Watch sucks shit though. All you do is trace and spin to win.
>>315772370
well change that dont worry
>muh ads
What an awful meme
>>315762046
>there's an option right there to still like the game but not be okay with having content cut.
Well it's kind of an interpretation. I'm not reluctantly buying it, it looks awesome. If lynlee's bikini outfit is changed that is unfortunate, I'd rather have it. However it really affects almost nothing though. It's one costume. I would prefer the Japanese original outfit but it really doesn't make me reluctant to buy the game.
If there was an option that said
>Excited but they should have kept the outfit
I would pick that one.
>>315750258
>Market it as a console for the "core"
>it does a lot better
NEITHER of these happened. That's some insane mental gymnastics.
>>315747984
Well Nintendo of Europe is responsible for that outfit. Unless you're a big fan of Zelda and I misinterpreted what you were saying.
>>315753505
If FE Amie is cut then they're going to get shit sales.
>>315753294
Dark purple.
Miu is love and life.
>>315772936
NoE was responsible for censoring Fatal Frame 2's remake too.
>>315752441
No difference, which bugged me. The kimono I wore didnt look like it changed either.
>>315766591
That would be totally fine, sadly I doubt even that would happen.
>>315750329
what the hell type of logic is that, you can advertise more that one game at once.
you guys always act like Nintendo is poor when in reality they're just cheap.
POST BOTTOMLESS ELMA
>>315764723
>>315764704
>>315764585
>trying to stop funposting
You guys are fucking annoying
>>315773436
Kill yourself.
>>315768683
People would shitpost this game to death if they released nip audio for a price.
>>315773294
Seriously.
Who releases a fucking console just after making the most money they've ever made in their history and barely advertises it? Nintendo could've plastered the world with Wii U ads and made people forget Microsoft or Sony even existed but instead they had like one commercial that aired rarely and some stupid social networking shit.
I thought Japs confirmed that this game was shite?
>>315773519
Well yeah because that's what shit posters do.
>>315773294
>cheap
This is how they stay alive. Most people wouldn't buy Xenoblade if it was jammed down their throat every day.
"Too Japanese"
"This combat sucks"
etc.
It's 2015, the 90's are long gone my friend. I don't like it anymore than you do, but I have accepted it.
>>315770875
Really? because xenoblade chronicles was a PAL mirror, and that was a mirror to the original version so why would they change it now?
I assume EU censors stuff less, i mean there's no fucking meme's in TFH.
>>315773594
They liked everything except the online multiplayer apparently.
>>315773675
Your whole post is nonsense.
>>315773675
Combat does suck though. And not buying $350 game is not "being cheap".
If it was on PS4, no censorship, dual audio, I would've bought it day 1.
>>315773832
>he chose a PS4
>>315773832
>If it was on PS4
Oh of course :)
>>315773884
Sounds like he made the right choice then.
>>315773832
sweet, another shitposter confirmed for being a sonygger salty that he has no games.
>>315773759
Nintendo does things like this cheap because wasting money is bad policy. They'll sell to the people who really like Xeno series without much advertising.
As for the quotes, they are meant to point out how average consumers would react to this game (and do react). They can't be "won over" by marketing, they don't play these kind of games in the same numbers as people did in the 90's. The demographic for that type of game has diminished, and the marketing budget along with it.
That help?
>>315773832
Nintendo owns Monolithsoft, Sony could have scooped them up and didn't, Squenix could have retained them and didn't.
Nintendo did, they preserved them. You don't like that Nintendo has dedicated hardware you have to say goodbye to Xeno series, sorry.
>>315773675
It mostly because the Nintendo fanbase fucking hates JRPGs.
Ni No Kuni for example sold twice as much as Xenoblade on the Wii, and the Wii has twice the install base.
If it doesn't have Mario, it won't sell.
Hiroyuki should add IDs
>>315773745
NoA is handling XBX's localitazion, and NoE will use the same one as them.
When it comes to censorship, they do not hold back either. FEA had text changed (from boobs to hair) and the Fatal Frame 2 Wii Remake had the swimsuits removed, just like with 5.
