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HATE GAME JOURNALISTS

http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-review-embargo-gets-embargo-1740855250
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>>315624784
You think I'm clicking on a link to kotaku
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>linking kotaku
And I hate you.
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>>315624784
>links to kotaku
you must be the 'journalist' who 'wrote' this 'article'
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You're a fucking cancerous faggot OP.

Go talk about this "toxic" embargo on reddit.
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>>315624784
fuck you and fuck shitaku
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I wish I knew what embargo meant.
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>Embargo is twelve fucking hours after Australia's and Asians will already have the game

Yeah good idea Todd
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>We hope you’re having fun exploring the Wasteland in Fallout 4. We know your followers are eager to hear more about the game. If you’d like to reveal when your review or launch coverage will run, you can share beginning this Friday, November 6 at 10 a.m. PST.

>Please keep in mind that the embargo below is still in place.

>All review coverage is under embargo until Monday, November 9 at 8 a.m. EST.

>This embargo also includes streaming gameplay footage or posting impressions from your experience on social media, etc.

>We do ask that you avoid including story spoilers in your review coverage.

>Please let us know if you have any questions

>Thanks,
>The Bethesda PR team
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>>315625362
Full damage control.
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why are companies even allowed to do this? It's bacially black mail.
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I'm not sure to follow, what does the 6th of November embargo covers that isn't in the e 9th ?
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>>315625660
it has 0 legal power, nobody really has to follow it. BUT if they don't, they know the company will stop sending them copy reviews in the future and pay for advertising spots.
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>Reviews are only allowed, FOURTEEN AND A HALF HOURS after half the world gets the game

Do they really think the reviews will be that bad ?
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>>315625660
because they are in control.

they can deny anyone who fucks out of line review copies for all their games in the future, because they don't need any specific game reviewing company.

this is why games journo's are such baby bitches, they are utterly dependent on the whims and terms of the game industry.
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>>315625758
Not just from the developers of that game, there's probably a blacklist somewhere with people who broke embargo with other companies before.
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>>315625680
I think it means sites can say when their own review will be out today? So today they can say what time it will land on Monday? Who knows man.
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>>315624784
Fixed the link for you since OP is too busy sucking cocks
https://archive.is/5Y5zz
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>>315625795
they do it entirely to hedge the bets, they don't think its bad, however, it doesn't matter, they take no chances on such a money making game.
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why do the mods not do anything about the obvious blog posters from craptaco coming here to shill their shitty website?

GG must've really hit their visit count hard.
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>>315625261
When journalists get early access to a product to review there is a date agreed upon before which the journalists aren't allowed to reveal anything.

In this case, there is an embargo on releasing reviews AND an embargo on releasing any information about the reviews.

It really inspires confidence in the quality of the game don't you think?
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>>315625795
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>>315625660
There's nothing legally wrong with it.

They're simply asking reviewers not to post their reviews (which is scummy as shit not denying that). They're not telling the press "hey if you post early content we're going to make sure to never involve ourselves with you again" but that's what would happen.

Which is fucking huge because literally the only thing any gaming news site or reviewer has anymore is "exclusive coverage" or the ability to to be the first ones out there to post content relating to an upcoming release.

Websites are also okay with it because it means they do not have to worry about any other legitimate source posting shit before they get a change to.
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>Fallout 4 is now bad because it has a review embargo even though every other AAA game has a review embargo too.
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>>315626163
every other AAA game this year was awful.

I don't know why they bother, reviews won't stop retards from buying hot garbage.
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>>315625885
>So on Friday, at 10am PT, the embargo will be up for embargoed reviewers saying they’re embargoed until Monday at 8am ET.

So they are gonna announce the date when the reviews comes out on friday?
What's the point of that when everyone knows the embargo lifts on monday?
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it's pretty pathetic desu, but it's not like game "reviews" are reliable in any way
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>>315626247

I don't think Bethesda wanted everyone knowing that, thats why they are going around reminding sites to stop telling people when the reviews will be up.

Only 5% of Gamers are autistic enough like us, to be actually looking at this info each day.

Most normies just scroll along the IGN / Kotaku front page, to look for a review, then tab out.

I think it was IGN who said in a recent video, that they LIKE to publish reviews on the day of release, because thats when they get the majority of traffic on the front page to look for a review, they don't want to type in searches to find something posted days ago
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>>315625886
Doesn't it stop at least 10% of sales? It should by all means be a bad rep.
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>>315626120
there's nothing wrong about an embargo on reviews if it is there to ensure that everybody is actually testing the game thoroughly. it is a very bad sign and business practice if the embargo lifts after the game is released or very close to the game being delivered. basically keeping costumers in the dark about the the product they are buying.
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>>315626463
>Only 5% of Gamers
That's a lot of money.
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>>315626727

True, I would also argue though, anyone searching for leaked Fallout 4 info every day... is going to buy it regardless of what reviews say, or what they themselves claim on /v/
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>>315626865
Or just pirate it.
Just because you are interested in playing a game doesn't mean you are gonna buy it.

If everyone who pirates this bought a copy sales would probably double.
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>>315625795

There's no fucking way they're going to risk it.

2015 has been a pretty hilarious year for AAA titles, and a bad initial impression (much like what Fallout 4 is already experiencing) can quickly spiral out of control.
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>>315627032
>would probably double
Yea, they should make proper pricing then for us 3rd world country folk, i'm not going to pay 1/5 of my salary for a game.
They simply make it $40 directly converting it forgetting about local economy.
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>>315626572

99% of normies (the target audience for AAA games) aren't going to care about or even notice a review embargo. They're just going to take a quick peek on Metacritic, check if the number's green, and buy it on the spot. And that's IF they don't automatically buy it based on brand name/advertising.
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>>315624784
>Here, obtained by Kotaku, is an e-mail Bethesda sent out to press (not including Kotaku)

Ha, Kotaku got snubbed. Did they even get a review copy of the game?
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>>315624784
Fuck off, Jason. You lolicon fuck!
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>>315624784
So they were embargoed and they just reported this shit acting all almighty and cancerous?
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>>315624981
>>315625015
>>315625130
>>315625235

le goobergate xD


>>>/cripplechan/
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>>315627684
0/10 take pride in your work
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Fucking day 1 embargoes are shit, didn't bloodborne have one as well? I know the witcher 3 was 10-14 days before release and mgsv was 5-7 days.
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>>315627750
#rekt
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>>315626247
Casual plebs won't know there's an embargo and will be wondering where their "10/10 GOTY" validation/anti-remorse articles are.
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>>315627750
>>>/reddit/
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>>315624784
>MGSV received 10/10
>Still listening to game journalists
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>>315627684
>>315627750
painfully obvious
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>>315627932
It was still a solid game.
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>>315627684
linking to kotaku was actively discouraged long before GG you fucking newfag, kill yourself
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>>315627974
No, anon.
It was a venom game.
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>>315627968
>two post in under 60 seconds
>samefag
painfully new
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>>315627750
it only counts as 1 click because of your IP

baka desu senpai
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>>315624784
Embargos on embargos is nothing new in the industry.
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>>315628064
Refine your trolling skills
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>>315628064
you're not making yourself look good you fucking moron.
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>>315627932
>best game released this year
>and i mean GAME not story
>in GAME you play

>not 10/10
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>>315628064
fuck off back to reddit, newfag
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>>315627750
It's a matter of principles, really
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>>315628248
>>315628176
>>315628205

>implying
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>>315628146
>>315628272
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>>315628234
Agreed, the only thing Witcher has over MGS is more talky talk and moviewatch.
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>>315628358
Just kill yourself my man
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>>315627145
I haven't been on /v/ for awhile, what's the bad impression that fallout 4 is giving?
I only saw memes and no actual criticisms when I looked at the catalog.
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>>315628683
Maybe you should look harder. Practically any webm that's posted here is not a very flattering one, and they aren't all cherrypicked either.
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>>315628804
Oh, just a graphics thing then? I have a pretty old PC and play most of my games on low so I guess it doesn't matter. I liked most of the other bethesda games from daggerfall on, much like the rest of the world so I doubt this is anything that goes beyond /v/ shitposting the flavour of the month.
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>>315624784
Fallout 5 will have an embargo on disclosing about embargo's too I bet.
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>>315624784
>Unironically linking to Kotaku
>Doesn't provide a pastebin

Since when did this become okay?
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>>315627932
>samefaging.webm
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>>315625795
What did AssCreed Unity get?
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>>315629376
Since they did it for free
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>>315625886
That doesn´t make any sense, if you restrict what critics have to say about it it is a massive sign to the players that you know your game will get ripped a new one.
Even if it completely fine in the end, you basically admit that you don´t trust the game´s quality to win over the people.
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>>315629376
so what? why do you care if some site gets money when you visit it?
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>>315626163
No, but because other review embargoes go away BEFORE the game comes out, not after.
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>>315626160
>which is scummy as shit not denying that
Yeah, I'm sure a race to be first in posting a review will be great for quality.
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>>315629250
It's most fervently the dialogue wheel. It's so basic, people can't make heads or tails of it.
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OUR SHIT
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>>315626163

This has an embargo on reviews/first impressions until the game has been out for half a day in some places. Most big site reviews usually come in ~3-4 days before release on big budget AAA titles.

Bethesda has some confidence issues in regards to its quality. It can still turn out great when playing it, but it is a red flag
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>>315624784
>HATE GAME JOURNALISTS
>links Kotaku
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>>315628234
To be fair, the game consists of more than just the gameplay. Like it or not, video games like MGS are more like multimedia experiences than something like Pacman or Tetris. As such, I think it would be perfectly reasonable to deduct points from MGS5 for its heinously bad story.

I still really enjoyed the game for the gameplay and music though.
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>>315629250
>just a graphics thing
No, there's a reason he said webm. The gameplay itself is not good. The animations are shit, the AI is laughably bad (like, mostly just doesn't work), and the coding in general is mind boggling. Like to the point of shooting a guy right in front of you and it just not doing anything. No hit or reaction or anything, and the mechanics in general clearly just not working as they're supposed to (because if it is how they're supposed to work it's designed to be shit which would be even worse).
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>>315627426
Normies won't look at any form of review. They'll buy what Gamestop/EB Games/BritbongGaemz tells them is popular.
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>>315630494
You forgot to mention the really super buggy physics.
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>>315629797
>game comes out Tuesday at 12:01AM EST
>embargo lifts Monday at 8AM EST

Reading comprehension much?
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>>315630494
That doesn't sound good, I don't plan on buying it on release so I guess I'll see for myself when proper vids are on youtube.
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>>315624784
>linking to kotaku
Fuck off, retard.
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>tfw you've already been at kotaku today so spite-clicking op's link won't do anything
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>>315624784
>linking kotaku
its time to report and chew bubble gum, and i m all out of gum
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>>315630463
The story wasn't heinously bad though...
It may have deviated from your expectations, but bad?? Fuck off kid.
This game was fun as hell; even with the empty map.
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Can someone explain this "hurr i no click kotaku links" garbage?

If they publish something that I have an interest in and want to read, I'll read it. If they publish how feminists are the majority of gamers and make up 107% of the population, I'll not read it.
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>>315629376
Many years before you ever found 4chan.
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>>315630463
So tetris is a 6/10 game?
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>>315628146
Anon, don't bother arguing with retards, they won't learn anything.
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>>315628038
your mom blew two dicks in under 24 seconds
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>>315628025
I thought it was pretty solidus.
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>>315628146
what if he changes his ip after each click?
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>>315630463
>MGS are more like multimedia experiences than something like Pacman or Tetris.
How fucking stupid are you?
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>>315629723
>if you restrict what critics have to say about it it is a massive sign to the players that you know your game will get ripped a new one.
That only works when your consumerbase has two braincells to rub together. Gamers, both regular and your "hardcore" /v/ type, are the most retarded consumer group in the entire history of capitalism. They won't give a shit.
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>>315631671
something something autism insult
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>>315631454
clicking on one enables them to do the other
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>>315631678
>Can't understand a very basic obvious statement
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>>315631454
>I am proud of being a newfag
Fuck off nigger.
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>>315631671
If you want to spend your time renewing your ip each time, go ahead. It's not my time you're wasting.
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>>315631906
i never said i did but it would only take like 5 sec
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Red flag.
Red flag.
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>>315627684
Do you read the daily mail also?
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>>315627974
Rim shot
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>>315624784
gee it mus be so shitty that they forbid all reviews to make the best day one cashout of all times


coloneal marines will be a masterpiece compared to this
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>All review coverage is under embargo until Monday, November 9 at 8 a.m. EST.
Thats a short embargo. They know the game is gonna get bashed.
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>>315630463
Yea I enjoyed the option to buy base insurance and MB coins

Oh wait
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>>315627750
>>315627684
All me
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>>315626163
The embargo on most AAA titles is atleast a week before release. That embargo is really short. Bethesda knows people will bash the game and they don't want preorders canceled. Its a classic move.
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>>315631976
I want to buy whatever router you're using
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>>315625660
Game journalists and reviewing is so shit tier and irrelevant that companies can threaten basically any person or site in the industry with a no-review-copy blacklist without fear of repercussions or non-compliance.
Mainstream game journalists are basically interchangeable utter nobodies with no fixed audience or reputation, ergo they live and die based on whether they can release reviews at the same time as the rest of the industry.
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Pretty sure Bethesda doesn't need a single review for publicity. They're going to sell millions regardless.
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>>315624784
All embargos do is put people with braincells off buying that specific game at launch.

If you see an embargo on a game it just screams they're iffy about how the quality will be received, or if their shill money arrived at IGN yet.
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>>315627684
>>315627750
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>>315626663

That's basically what it is though. In Fallout 4's case though, they're only allowed to say they'll release a review the day before the game comes out, then after the game comes out can they release the review.
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>>315631530
No because tetris is a game solely focused on gamemplay. If it had some heinous tacked on story it may deserve points deducted.
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>>315628013
Le gamergate tinfoil meme.
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>>315633920
Get out.
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>>315624784
> embargo gets a embargo

Am I reading right or is Jason being a retard again?
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>>315635443
http://pastebin.com/BwxM9e06
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>>315634023
Fuck you fedoratipping neckbeard.
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>>315624784
>linking kotaku

holy FUCK, have you not learned ANYTHING from GG?
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>>315629927
HATE DIALOGUE WHEELS
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>>315626232
Dying Light was good, so was GTA5 and Witcher 3. Arkham Knight was rather shitty but MGS5 was good.
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>>315636624
>know everybody hates dialog wheels
>make one anyway
>its shit and everybody hates it

Are they retarded?
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>>315638383
Are you okay?
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>>315638383
what the fuck
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>>315638383
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>>315638383
>>315638593
>>315638865
I think he just had an aneurysm or a stroke or something guys
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>>315628683
>what's the bad impression that fallout 4 is giving

it's made by Bethesda
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>>315639153
>>315639102
>>315638865
>>315638593
>>315638383
It's a GG raid since someone linked kotaku. They really need to stay the fucking in otherchan
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>>315627684
kotaku threads have always been accompanied by a pastebin. Hownew.ru
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>>315638135
>know everybody hates dialog wheels
on the contrary, the normie population is very used to dialogue wheels at this point and they are far and above the largest vidya purchasing demographic, outpacing the hardcore/weeb audience by 100X at least
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>>315639316
Not to disappoint or anything, but that pasta has been resposted quite a few times here in many variations. It's usually done in the shitposting/furry threads though.
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>>315632335
good thing you get MB coins for free
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>>315624784
>HATE GAME JOURNALISTS
>Links to Kotaku
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