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>September 2016
>$50
>Early access to Demon Hunter class
>>315585447
>cheaper than wod
>not like you'll be able to level it
>no one cares
>>315585440
6.2
>>315585531
>cheaper
Same price as WoD actually, $10 increase justified by the tacked on character boost which some people don't even want / have use for.
>>315585447
Learn to read
>Expected game release on or before September 21st, 2016
It can come out at any time from now to September. But you can fucking bet it will only come out in June/July.
>game is so bad that blizzard have to give people level boosts so they can skip all the content
>Another year of WoD
Its like they WANT the game to die
>13 MONTHS OF HELLFIRE CITADEL
>13 MONTHS OF SHITPOSTING FFXIV THREADS
>13 MONTHS OF REMINDER WOW IS DYING
It's Siege of Orgrimmar all over again, kill me now
>>315585735
Or maybe you should learn the track record of WoW? WoD came out a month before the set release date. So this doesn't exactly bode well for an early release.
>>315585738
Because Blizz like locking us out now. Remember Path of Titans? Remember they said they removed it because they hate gated content nowadays?
>Timewalker dungeons happen on weekends, gated content
>Raids have lock outs, gated content
We can't have attunements but we sure can spend money to not play the fucking game!
>>315585928
Except MoP was atleast fun
>>315586010
Adding on, that's the end of Q3 so it likely means late June/July/August/September for release.
By the way, the movie comes out June 10th. Hint hint
So sad to see the game I spent so much time playing be so fucking dead
Well, i'm off to Gw2, cya
>>315585738
I got 4 characters at max level. 3 Alliance (Ret/Holy Pali, Feral/Balance Druid, Brewmaster/Windwalker Monk) and 1 Horde (Ret/Prot Pali).
I got a Shadow/Disc Priest stuck at 60 because I fucking hate Priests. I got a lvl 73 Prot/Fury Warrior. I'm undecided wich to boost.
Since I started playing in the middle of the SoO content drought, got 4 max level chars and many parked in between,a boost is usefull for you to go to max level to raid with a new class on the side. I wanna do that on my Warrior.
But that is the only justifiable situation IMHO since I also got like 4 other classes I stopped playing at 60 and 2 other at 70 and 80.
>September 2016
speculation =/= confirmation
deadline =/= release date
where the fuck is everyone's reading comprehension?
>>315585841
>yfw this shitty expansion is like MoP and is better than anyone expects it to be
>yfw it slowly curves interest back into the game
>yfw following expansion is hyped to hell
>yfw it's shit
>yfw we have a constant cycle of shit expansions and surprisingly okay expansions for years until sub count hits 0
>yfw endless shitposting the entire time
LOTV had the same thing for March 2016 and it's coming out in 4 days
>>315586142
>I'll go to an even deader clone of the same game that will show them
>>315585765
I honestly believe they're content just letting it fizzle out. The investment they have to make for the game to actually be good is more than they find to be worthwhile. I hear HS is making money by the truckload and that game looks like a team of ten or twenty could run it. They just don't need WoW anymore. Maybe they don't even want it. They're heading in the right direction if killing it is their goal.
>>315585738
>"Let's keep appealing to people that just want to rush through everything and get to the end as quickly as possible! Level boosts and LFR!"
>"Wait! Where are they going after they cleared the story? There is more to see than the very narrow goal we advertised!"
Do you miss it?
Hey guys, remember me?
So is Jay Wilson still working on this game?
>>315586104
They removed Path of the Titans because it would have been a boring shitty grind that every character would have to complete before they were viable in any kind of function.
Imagine if you HAD TO grind archeology to max on every character or nobody would ever group with you. It would be complete shit. Path of Titans was a complete shit failure of a concept.
It's the kind of thing that works in a single player game where people are only concerned about their own progress.
>Yoshi's face when he sees the release date for Legion
>seven day early access
literally who gives a shit. it's just going to clear out the starting zone
>>315586439
Every single day. I hope Chen is doing okay
>>315586439
I missed it when WoD went live
>>315586267
I believe this is the case. I think when Titan failed and if rumors are true, was turned into Overwatch then we see what end they're trending to. They tell us that, "We want to keep making shit for the game, as long as you keep wanting to play the game." But they keep giving us interestingly more reasons to not play the game.
>>315586439
every day
>>315585738
there is nothing stopping people from going back and doing that content later though
>>315586267
The core issue for WoW as a platform is that it can't be ported to other platforms. No chance for a console version, absolutely no chance for a mobile version. In this era, nobody cares if WoW can run on every computer in the world because a big fat chunk of "GAMERS" play on mobile and console instead of their computers now.
>>315586439
i miss it senpai
>>315586521
Or if Legion manages to attract a similar resurgence that Warlords did... days of looking at a fucking queue.
>>315586487
>Imagine if you HAD TO grind archeology to max on every character or nobody would ever group with you.
so exactly like the legendary quest line already is
>>315586456
He was the start of the Activision domination. The yearly CoD-style expansion philosophy is fucking shit for an MMO experience.
>>315586439
timeless isle pvp was one of the best things in wow
>>315586507
I don't think he nor his team are in a position to comment on content updates when the ship content is glorified NM hunter, two new dungeons to replace two older dungeons to spam for currency, and a LFR.
>>315586637
and then three months later the servers were a fucking ghost town.
>tfw you are witnessing the slow and painful death of a game you once loved
>WoW is officially dead
>Blizzard is now officially dying
Dance thread.
>mfw I will never witness another 5.2 again
>>315586439
>Playing Warrior in AV for alliance
>Full PvP gear
>Bladestorm+Bloodbath Combo in your bosses' tower when horde rush
>Be top damage for the rest of the battleground
MoP warrior was the most fun in a game ive ever had
>>315586487
What they're turning Artifacts basically into? Not my fault they decided to turn talents into a fucking joke. Because ultimately Path and Artifacts are doing exactly that. Maybe if they didn't make leveling content laughable the situation would be different. Hmmmmm?
>>315585841
actually it's 15but who's counting :^)
>>315586236
5 words bud "Heart of Thorns is FUN"
Unlike WOD which bored me to death, Gw2 is keeping my interest alive. I will still buy Legion that's for sure, WoW it's still my one true love after all.
why does blizzard get away with charging people 50$ every 2 years for some shitty expansion that is free in 99% of all other mmorpgs?
most of which are f2p...
>Level 36 shaman
>35 gold
>mount in 4 levels
>farm deviate fish to make gold
>300 fishing at level 36, JUST
>making phat stacks
NOST FAMM WHERE WE @?
>>315586592
Why can't WoW be ported to consoles? There are classes in WoW that operate on five abilities now, it could EASILY be played on a controller.
>We want to release a new xpansion every year
>11 more months of WoD with no new content
There won't be people left playing if it comes out in September.
>>315586708
He is though since it's at least better than nothing but Twitter integration and a fucking selfie option.
>>315586792
Sorry boss but WoW isn't their revenue stream now. They aren't going anywhere.
>>315586439
>1 year of SoO had a stable sub base of 7.5 million
>Months into WoD it drops to 5 mill
>Blizz response is the sub numbers are cyclical
Ret Pally - Not fun
All Hunter specs - Not fun
All Mage specs - Not fun
Enhance Shammy - Fun
Elemental Shammy - Not fun
Feral Druid - Not fun
Balance Druid - Not fun
Windwalker Monk - Not fun
Frost DK - Not fun
Unholy DK - Not fun
Fury Warrior - Fun
Arms Warrior - Not fun
Affliction Warlock - Not fun
Demonology Warlock - Fun
Destruction Warlock - Not fun
Subtlety Rogue - Fun
Combat Rogue - Not fun
Assassination Rogue - Not fun
Shadow Priest - Not fun
Correct?
>an entire year of no content
>it's entirely feasible the game will die before Legion even releases
>>315586882
>2004
>Not playing undead warlock
Shit taste m8
>>315586792
>2005
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2006
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2007
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2008
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2009
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2010
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2011
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2012
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2013
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2014
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>2015
>WOW IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW!
>>315586854
Yeah that doesn't last beyond a month. Trust me I went through the exact same thing leaving WoD for GW2. It's probably the worst expansion of any mmo in recent history thank god I didn't get it, I only played GW2 like 4 months back but was bored within 30 days with a capped character I started on day 1 of that 30 days.
>>315586980
>Enhance Shammy - Fun
I'm still mad
>>315586664
It's not a bad idea if the price is right, but $40-50 per expansion is way too much if you're gonna do them yearly
>>315587008
Look at the fucking graph faggot. XIV is the new king.
This game just stopped being good once youtube stopped being shitty.
It's the only reason I could put up with the grind; it's because I had literally nothing else to do.
>>315586680
>tfw the only thing keeping me playing is the scraps of WPvP i can get in Tanaan.
we just lost one of the biggest horde WPvP guilds to alliance on ED. If this keeps up there's going to be nothing left for mypandarogue
>>315586919
>W-we only got rid o-of the subs because of a random company shift we p-promise
>>315586980
I'd say all warlock specs are just as enjoyable as each other, affliction and destruction need a little something extra each for some spontaneousness in the rotation, but demo is just a complete clusterfuck even when you know what you're doing.
>>315586980
Nah.
Destruction can be fun when your embers actually fucking generate. Fire spec mage is actually fun when things are working.
Other than that, yeah, you're correct.
>>315586951
Even if I don't like it, don't ignore 6.2. HW is more of a sham than WoD is.
>>315586910
>>315586456
>Toying with the idea of quantity over quality
>They manage to provide neither
>>315586439
WoD was supposed to fix everything you guys complained about. I stopped playing after MoP because MoP felt like trash so I don't know what was wrong with WoD.
>>315587047
It has the most abilities of any class. Seriously the complexity to an Enhance Shaman is just ridiculous
I didn't even know the elementals had player specific abilities till a while ago
>>315587069
heavenshill pls go
NO I'M NOT FALLING FOR THIS AGAIN
>>315587191
Take an MMO.
Now make it not an MMO.
Continue making store mounts.
>>315587051
The problem is, Blizz's expansion philosophy doesn't give incentive to keep playing. Instead of it being about what content your guild is currently tackling, it's whatever the patch number is dictates what you should be doing. Yearly expansions would only increase that trend.
>>315587069
Wrong graph.
>>315587212
Make me WoWkek.
>>315586980
100% correct
>>315587091
I was thinking of coming over to ED Horde actually. Depending on what Blizzcon reveals, I'd either transfer an Alliance char over and faction change, or move an Orc Rogue over and rush it to 100
>>315587196
It's mindless button massing, I miss being a support.
>>315587168
What if they get back to the three-month content release schedule that 2.0 had.
>>315586980
Unholy and WW are fun IMO
>>315586980
I miss when Shadow Priests' Shadowy Apparitions copied the Priest's appearance.
>Skymirror someone using the Tree Disguise Kit
>Get into raid
>Shadow Word: Pain on everything
>INFINITE GHOST TREE WORKS
>>315587069
Its way less than that
Good thing I quit after Lich King endgame.
>>315587273
Didn't that happen in Cata first though.
>>315587343
Festering strike when blood and frost rune
Scourge when death
Keep up diseases
Deathcoil on cooldown
Use 100 ability on cooldown
AFK
>>315585841
>13 MONTHS OF SHITPOSTING FFXIV THREADS
You mean XIV threads talking about new content that gets patched into the game every 3-4 months? How dare they!
>>315586637
Since the Overwatch beta started, WoW servers have been a bit laggy at peak hours.
Mmmhm, what could be the relation?
>WoW servers on the Tuesday before the Overwatch beta launch closed for maintenance 3 hours earlier than usual
They moved part of the WoW servers to the Overwatch beta.
They didn't buy servers specificly for the game yet. Legion will come out and it will be as bad as WoD because they are too much of a jew to invest in more servers like they should have done in WoD and even for the fucking MoP launch.
>>315586980
The fuck you high on nigga? From personal experience
>Ret Pally - simple but fun
>Frost Mage - op broken as fuck in arenas to retarded level of lels of melee trying to hit you
>Feral Druid - CC out of the ass, but not as much as Frost Mage
>Windwalker Monk - complicated to play, so many fucking keys, but fun if you learn how to play
>Frost DK - faceroll on keyboard
>Fury Warrior - simple as fuck fun
>>315587316
I don't think the totem cooldowns could be classified as mindless button mashing
>>315586439
No it was the worst expansion along with cata
>>315587456
Welp, you clearly haven't played unholy in a raiding or pvp environment then. Opinion disregarded.
>>315587550
let me guess: you only PvP?
Is there any class or spec more fun than rogues?
I've been a rogue forever and it feels like nothing would be as enjoyable.
>>315587168
HW has probably 3 or 4 patches to go before it's over. WoD had only one fucking content update.
>>315586439
Still better than all of Wod combined, so yes
>>315587332
That's fucking awful, and the same broken cycle that they NEED to fucking deviate from. The two dungeons we have now are going to the Hard Tier and the two new are the Expert replacements. Everything is the same fucking game over and over.
>>315586806
we will never have a proper wotlk ending :'(
They don't actually believe the game will last till September right?
They are ganna pack it choc full of micro-transactions and milk it as it goes down from retards who don't realize they are killing there own game right?
>>315586882
>oh shit i have a class quest
>apparently i'm making this cool warlock robe
>go from UD to ratchet
>then UD again
>finally you can go kill a dude in arathi
>go back to kalimdor
>get ganked a dozen times going south of desolace,then north,then south again
>back in ratchet
>good job now buy those mats for a ridiculous amount
>orgrimmar
>then ratchet again
>half my day is gone,i got 20% of my xp and a mediocre piece of gear
still more fun than wod/10
now that's a proper neckbeard game none of that casual shit
>>315587516
>That odd feeling when a level 100 retribution paladin has only 3 abilities more than your level 60 paladin
I can't actually tell what they are either. What's your abilities bound to 4, 8 and F1 supposed to be?
>You bitched about the Asian aesthetics
>You complained about its peaceful inhabitants and their humble teachings
>You ignored the meaty patches and fun contents that the $40 expansion gave you
>You wanted "real" Warcraft back
>You got a WOD that cost $50
>And now you'll get Legion for $50
>>315587535
Why are totems just glorified trinkets?
>>315587692
What will it matter? They aren't reporting sub numbers anymore.
>>315587606
no I never pvp
>>315587585
What do you do there?
>Mfw people who continue playing after mid wotlk
>>315586792
Die Blizzard! Die! DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>315587692
I wouldn't be surprised if it were the last expansion.
>>315587489
What 3.1 is bringing is not content. And that's 5 months after HW was released.
>>315587168
>comparing WoD an Expac that won't get any major updates anymore with an Expac that still gets 3-4 major patches
>>315587786
>You ignored the meaty patches and fun contents that the $40 expansion gave you
It was $50, fucking retard
>You got a WOD that cost $50
It was $60
>>315585447
>Sept. 2016
>Expecting us to play that giant shit of a raid for another 10 months.
Unsubbed back in Feb. don't regret it for a second. Why the hell is Legion pushed back till Sept. I mean what the fuck have they been doing all this time. They certainly weren't working on WoD that's for sure.
Blizzard can go fuck themselves desu senpai.
Diablo 3 is okay though.
>>315587968
You won't ruse me this time.
>>315586809
Ma nigga
>>315587968
>3.1 is not content
You are delusional. The 5 month gap was because the team took a break, what is Blizzards excuse?
>>315587970
>major patches
>2 dungeons and one raid boss is considered major content now
why?
>>315587968
>It's not content unless I say so!
>>315587294
This isin't even correct. MMO-champion released it without source and then later fixed it to say "Blizzard will no longer report subscriber numbers".
For all we know WoW could have 2 million subs left.
>>315588043
Wrong. WoD started the $50 trend.
http://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-release-date-announced/#!
>>315586439
>Wrath comes out
>Feels like a bastardization of Burning Crusade
>Hate it the longer it goes
>Cata comes out
>Feels like a bastardization of Wrath
>Hate it the longer it goes
>Suddenly Wrath wasn't so bad
>MoP comes out
>Feels like a bastardization of Cata
>Hate it the longer it goes
>Suddenly Cata wasn't so bad
>Wrath starts looking like it was a golden age
>WoD comes out
>Feels like a bastardization of MoP
>Hate it the longer it goes
>Suddenly MoP wasn't so bad
>Cata might have actually been pretty good
>Wrath was the best the game ever was
>Burning crusade is memories and dust
>Legion comes out
>Feels like a bastardization of WoD
>Hate it the longer it goes
>Suddenly WoD wasn't so bad
>MoP might have actually been great
>Cata was a golden age
>Wrath is just memories and dust now
Dare you continue the cycle, anons?
>>315586182
LOL DIDNT READ
>>315587786
Man why the fuck didn't li li look like that?
it sure was.
>>315588143
Not to mention the fact that FFXIV's team is considerably smaller than WoW's.
Remember how Blizzard boasted about having a bigger team than ever before working on WoW? What a load of bullshit.
>>315587786
This happens with every expansion, people always say the last one was better. After all the shit WoD got I guarantee there will be people pining for it after Legion is a year in.
>>315587692
I AM CALLING IT NOW. MUST BE SUBBED TO WOW TO GET OVERWATCH BETA.
>>315588043
Wrong
Wrong
Look it up
>>315588256
>Dare you continue the cycle, anons?
no becuase wod is the worse xpac right next to cata
>>315588256
cata was shit tho
>>315587751
4 is Final Verdict. Lvl 100 talent that replaces Templar's Verdict.
8 is nothing. You must be confusing it with 6 wich is a macro I have to pop Avenging Wrath/Holy Avenger at the same time (I prefer the burst build for burning down specific targets in boss fights).
F1 is nothing. If you are talking about F it's a macro to pop Avenging Wrath/Execution Sentence at the same time (due to the HFC 2 piece bonus that gives you 3 charges of the Avenging Wrath).
The macros have different icons so I can differentiate them on my bars. I rarely look at them since I've gotten so used to playing Ret I can just look at the boss and ground. Wich is essential when you have a potato PC so bad it can't properly render the edges of most fire on the ground.
>>315588310
>Knocking people off the fucking ropes
>>315588379
I will actually be surprised to see people miss WoD. There are just way too many shortcomings, I'd fear for their health to miss the expansion with the least amount of content and ability pruning to boot.
>level 100 boost
>already have all classes at 100
>still have the level 90 boost from wod
Maybe I'll make an alliance character or something. I heard they have easymode in BGs these days so could use it for pvp
>>315588169
remember when patches added battlegrounds and an honor system
and a system where you fucking competed between servers with 2 huge raids and shit
oh and remember when they said they'd add new classes in patches
>>315588143
Let's be serious. You release an expansion with fuck all to do, and go on vacation. Which is the critical time for any online multiplayer game, shortly after release. Yea. Ok.
>>315588176
2 dungeons, CT 2.0, and ??? What the exploration stuff? Come on you can't be serious. This is the same shit they gave us in ARR just with a different skin. Keep playing and believing in Yoshi if you like.
>>315588310
Jesus Christ I loved that third faction thing
Man, Blizzard is such a joke nowadays. Making casual auto-aim shooters for consoles and releasing expansion packs that makes you skip all the content.
Ahh, kinda glad I got to experience pre-cancer Blizzard. A memory to cherish.
>>315586590
>there is nothing stopping people from going back and doing that content later though
You mean on a character that vastly outlevels the content? thats boring.
Just as boring at the "appropriate level" because of weak everything is now relative to your character as well.
>make paladin
>1 shot things in starting zone
>they do like .01% of your hp each hit
>not actually possible to pull enough to die from
wow engaging gameplay blizzard im shocked people are leaving the game so fast.
>>315588503
>I will actually be surprised to see people miss WoD.
There people who miss wotlk, and worlk had worst raiding experience in the WoW history
>>315588310
why do these people play on pvp servers? i will never understand this mentality of "don't attack me on a server specifically designed to encourage you to attack me"
>>315588592
Surprised they are still even in business at this point. Even Konami has more dignity than Blizzard.
>>315588650
People just miss Ulduar which was a pretty darn good raid, and ignore the rehashing.
>>315588650
>worlk had worst raiding experience in the WoW history
>>315588379
MOP objectively had more content than WOD. There is nothing to debate about this.
You can argue about the quality of the content, story, and state of balances, these things are all worth talking. But MOP had vastly more raw content than WOD.
The only way for people to nostalgia about WoD is if Legion end up sucking a big fat mexican cock
>>315588374
I could care less about making comparisons between XIV and WoW. I guess you have to when dealing with imitators though.
I endured SE's bullshit with XI during Wings, all I heard was, it's just Tanaka's fault. Now it's, Please look forward to it because Yoshi says to! Nah, SE can't manage games for shit now.
>>315588782
>if Legion end up sucking a big fat mexican cock
>if
>>315588650
>DUUUUUR
oh shut up you
>>315587091
Warsong Battalion went Ally? Been years now since I've played.
>>315588552
That's back when the game had social functions and experiences. You know, like an MMO should. But this isn't an MMO anymore.
As for the BGs and honor. I'm sure that stuff was on the table during alpha/beta and was pushed off to pad out 1.0, still better than what we're getting now though.
>>315588782
>The only way for people to nostalgia about WoD is if Legion end up sucking a big fat mexican cock
Considering this has been the trend for every single expansion to date (though I think Cata vs. MoP is debatable) I wouldn't doubt it.
So now that Blizzard is officially dead and gone with no hope of returning to its former glory, who is the new Blizzard? Who is the new king of the master race?
>>315588752
Ulduar was last straw and I dropped wow seriously for the first time after this
Sara fight was great, but still too much gear check.
And farming both 10ppl and 25ppl every weak was terrible
Hard modes were shit idea too
People miss ulduar for the same reason they miss Kara, it was their first casual raid
Whenever I think of WoW I think of this
Vanilla: You're born to a brilliant sunrise. The world is all new. Every turn, every corner is a new experience. Your future is bright and sunny. Things are just getting started. You're a noob but so is everyone else. Everything is surprise, laughs and good times. Happiness is all you feel and all you know.
Burning Crusade: The sun is at it's highest in the sky. You're no longer green and have settled comfortably into the world. Everything is at its zenith. The world is bustling and you're just one of the privileged few lucky enough to have lived in such a great time.
Wrath: You look onto the horizon. The sun is setting. You feel creaks in your bones that weren't there yesterday. You're wizened and weathered, a sage of times past. You make your final journey into the unknown, the land beyond sight. You leave behind everything, your friends, your memories, the world itself. You say goodbye and disappear as the last glimpse of the sun vanishes behind the sea.
Cataclysm: You return. You're old. Your adventures are over. The world you left is gone, changed completely. New faces are all that can be seen, none that you recognize. You realize your time has long past, the world belongs to others now. This is not your place...not anymore, the sun already set on you. It will never rise for you again.
>>315588870
it's gonna be pretty damn hard to shit the bed harder than WoD, man. they'd have to deliberately strip content for the sole purpose of making the game worse at this point.
There needs to be raid level content for smaller groups.
Like 5 man dungeons that reward mythic level gear, specficially designed to be challenging for the 5 man group and not just a stat hike.
>>315586882
Ayyy lad.
BWL is fun.
>>315589053
MoP-Forever : Your desperately just want to leave and forget everything about this whole fucking thing but you can not
>>315589146
>Forgetting BC's most important contribution
:^)
>>315589027
>People miss ulduar for the same reason they miss Kara, it was their first casual raid
>what is naxx in wrath
Ulduar was good. I enjoyed doing progress in both 10 and 25 mans
>>315589146
This expansion has had 39 bosses, that's more than any other.
>>315588556
This was all on a PvE server tho, we used a priest to mind control mobs, when timed right they would attack the mind controlled NPC and get flagged, we would kill them non stop until they raged got brave enough to fight us two, mostly once they had like 10 people and we would then just kill everyone and they would get even angrier and would continue to escalate until they overwhelmed us with like 50 dudes.
While they were celebrating their "victory" talking shit and disbanding their posse we would simply run back from GY and kill the completely spread out and flagged island, and repeat every day for like an entire month.
We got enough for the mount and 2000 coins achievement, and even more to sell the pets.
Shit got hot on the forums and they tried to get us all banned, even some of our guild members tried to get us both banned because we were making the entire server hate us, our GM even threatened to kick us but we didn't listen because top guild DPS feral druid and #1 US feral druid during SoO if you have to ask) and priest was a pretty good player too.
Was fun
>>315589017
Vidya overall is pretty much dead.
Rockstar retains some quality of their games, but it's only a matter of time before GTA goes full cancer.
Meanwhile people that cry "BOO BAD AAA GAMES" are the shitters that plays garbage fanservice games like dungeon travelers. Yeah, they browse 4chan.
Consoles are just still doing their casual retard shit, shitting on eachother while getting shat in the mouth.
>>315586439
I didn't enjoy the locale but I feel like it had the best class design, at least overall. Decent balance and probably the most complex rotations/abilities ever got.
The pre-WoD patch killed any fun I got out of any class's actual mechanics.
>>315589336
Too bad that doesn't fucking matter.
>>315589146
>counting capital cities for older expansions
>dont count them for MOP
I can understand discounting WOD's shitty mud huts but Shrines in MOP were nice.
>>315589053
I used to agree with this a ton, I saw it a long ways back and I still do agree with most of it.
I'll get crap for this but I felt like MoP was a second sunrise, it brought so much magic back into the game for me and I made so many new friends. I'd never trade that experience for any other expansion's. Loved it to death.
>>315589336
>look at me pulling all this shit out of my ass
In fact no, it doesn't have more bosses than any other expansion.
>>315589424
>shrines
you mean shrine
>september 2016
What are they doing?
At this point it would be smarter to cut content up and deliver it in smaller patches.
You cant expect people to keep playing like this.
>>315588948
The amount of Horde characters with 2k+ rating in arena/bgs was 2 for EU before they buffed preety much all the Horde racials 2 months ago.
Preety much everyone went Alliance due to how good the Human and Dwarf racials are.
>September 2016
A LA BASURA ESTE PEDAZO DE MIERDA SE VA
>>315589348
>finding it fun to pay actual money every month in order ruin other people's good time
so at what age did daddy run out on you?
>>315589348
>Shit got hot on the forums and they tried to get us all banned, even some of our guild members tried to get us both banned because we were making the entire server hate us, our GM even threatened to kick us but we didn't listen because top guild DPS feral druid and #1 US feral druid during SoO if you have to ask) and priest was a pretty good player too.
Wow. My old guild would have loved you two.
>>315589373
Yep. Vidya is dead.
>>315589424
The shrines were shit. They were basically one giant building where blizzard barfed every late-game NPC they could think of.
>>315588310
Timeless isle was simply the most fun cluster fuck experience i ever had in wow.
>hunting all the boxes, some of them in cool and dangerous places
>cats and rogues everywhere just lurking
>warlocks and priests using fear and throwing noobs at the monster
>frost mages just facerolling you when you were at 50% hp battling against powerful mobs
The instances and raids were the best too. But fuck siege of orgrimmar, i prefer to suck 10 miles of cock than doing that shit in the LFR.
>>315589373
I like how a "hard" game comes around and creates it's own genre, even though the game play is hot utter garbage, and the majority of the community eats it up. Seriously?
>>315589336
Pretty sure vanilla had the most bosses out of any expansion.
However, it had terrible loot disparity as a price.
Also the rare bosses were a pain in the ass to even find.
>>315589605
Lol, salty. You get owned a lot huh, pussy?
>>315586439
Had some great raids and a great atmosphere. It's too bad everyone just focuses on the "HURR PANDA FURFAGS" and the literal furfags only perpetuate it further.
>>315589571
This is really obvious if you play BGs as horde. You get graveyard camped pretty much every time because only casual pvpers are left on horde side while alliance are all fully pvp geared
>>315589571
The Horde deserve it, because fuck those faggots, but factions are totally outdated.
>>315589745
>Not being fully heroic geared and basically being a raid boss on the timeless isle
Running around with 1m health as a warlock and one-shotting people trying to gear their alts never got old
>>315589745
>>315588310
Timeless Isle was just vastly superior to Tanaan. The Bloody Coin farm alone made the place amazing.
You ALWAYS had some All Star MLG NOSCOPE PRO who came on during peak hours with every fucking toy loaded and ready to fight the entire Isle
Then you had hilarious shit like DKs with one million HP's running around pulling the entire place while you scrubby ass in 496's could barely fight one elite.
>>315589605
Hey it was only the dumb retards that would get flagged and start the whole sequence of events.
Plus this was a time when you needed PvP gear to actually PvP and we had none because we were PvE fags, we tried to cheat the server move thing to move us into a PvP realm via party it wasn't that easy and we couldn't do it all the time.
Additionally,man up faggot.
>>315589336
(not including world bosses)
BC - 45
Wotlk - 54
Cata - 31
MoP - 49
WoD - 30
You couldn't be more wrong.
>>315589841
>classic
>expansion
>>315589868
you didn't answer the question
>>315589995
neither did you
>>315589571
As a Human player I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. I understood that they just completely lost it when they implemented that mercenary feature instead of just NERFING THE DAMN RACIAL.
>>315589841
In hindsight, loot lottery was a fucking bitch (didn't get my last T2 piece until WotLK for fucks sakes) but it gave more weight to the equipment that you had. People put in real time to get that AV 2H weapon, and everyone made an effort (either through merit or social standing) to get the equipment that they could get their hands on.
>>315589373
AAA games aren't safe.
>that linear story game that stated it would shut down the servers after a specific time to never be played again
>that zombie survival shooter clone with "one life" bullshit
>that fucking early access webseries selling notepad documents
Remember to flag these games, and future games, for cheating their way through Greenlight.
>>315586439
>hate the theme of MoP with a autismal passion
>can't get over it for the entire xpac, just fucking hate everything
>2 months into WoD I miss it
>>315589926
>>315589925
Most Rated BGs have Alliance on the Horde side. And there are simply some BGs the Horde does not win. Arathi Basin allways ends in my guild wish us capping the Farm and farming them on their graveyard until they give up and leave.
I once won Alterac Valley with 4 other guildies on the Horde side trough the mercenary mode. Turns out the entire Horde team was Alliance characters trying to get faster queue times.
>>315586267
Why let the game die when they're investing so much money to make a movie and re-boot the franchise?
>>315590130
>lost it
It does make sense though
Why fix it if you can get more of those 20$ faction transfers
>>315590130
I'm pretty sure they didn't anticipate all the pro Horde jumping Alliance over it, because they're the ones that look at the community boards and the blizzcon panels and the fan turnout and see only loyal Horde fanatics.
So we all agree WoW peaked during the burning crusade right guys?
>>315589980
>tfw battling multiple elites as a blood DK
it feels like only yesterday
>>315587091
Division VII right?
>>315590106
My dad and mom are still together and happily living in wealth and health.
Thanks for asking, may I ask where did the meanie PvPer touched you?
>>315589303
That has to be the worst patch ever
>>315590240
Quite frankly, development costs have ballooned out of control. The manpower they would have to acquire and devote to "fixing" WoW wouldn't be worth the reward.
>>315588480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsfSQFKx4I4
>>315590285
Yup, it definitely did. We should acknowledge however, that Wrath did enough right to keep the peak riding for another 2 years. I'd say the ride up to the end of 09 was fucking magical for this game.
>>315589980
On my server we had a Saudi Arabian multiboxer with 60 something accounts. He would park all his guys in a raid group at either Timeless Isle or the Alliance faction hub in Vale and just pull random people in and kill them immediately. It was pretty funny.
>>315589605
Get fukin rekt pve shitter
>on or before September 2016
>same language used for Legacy of the Void. March 2016
>releases in a week from now
I know this is already Shitposting General but I thought I'd make that point.
>>315590540
>cherry picks to try damage control
>ignores the fact that WoD released only a month before the set date
>compares two entirely different games
I could go on but why bother.
>>315590540
And WoD was promised to be released before december 2015
It was released in november...
If they give Titan's Grip warriors Sargeras's split sword I might return.
>>315590429
I can't help but feel like they're going to do something with the franchise.....why have a sub-par game for people to flock to once they see the movie.....it doesn't make senseUnless the movie is the sub-par of the two....which...it probably will be
>>315590697
But Naru are the parts of his sword
>>315590268
It's funny, because nobody ever talked about how the massive imbalance for PvE racials made the majority of raid guilds faction change to horde, but when people start faction changing to alliance for PvP shit hits the fan.
>>315590540
>Legacy of the Void launches in a week
Wow, Blizzard really dropping the ball on marketing, I had no idea.
>>315589336
Even if that was true (and it isn't) it would be because 75% of them are in raids. There is no fucking dungeon content in the game anymore. It's a pile of shit for people who want to casually progress (a la TBC days). They completely destroyed any sense of progression by making all content that wasn't JUST released completely pointless. So even if there was 39 bosses only like 9 of them are relevant at any time.
Where-as in TBC all of them were relevant depending on your personal point of progression. The game is a piece of shit now.
>>315590787
why...do....you..write......like...this?
>>315590871
I forgot they were even doing another expansion
>>315590540
That's fine, it's still a long ass wait from when 6.2 arrived, to the variable timeline when Legion can arrive.
>>315590894
He's Christopher Walken
>>315590876
He's wrong btw, there's not 39 bosses.
See
>>315590036
Something else to keep in mind is WoD has less raids, less dungeons and even less quests than any previous expansion.
>>315590787
Probably not wow 2 but maybe something set in warcraft universe
They made a card game out of it,now they make a clash of clans clone,an endless runner,and a bejeweled with the warcraft theme and they're golden
They will probably try to overlap the expansion release date with the movie
>>315590689
So all signs point to it releasing much earlier.
And yet every post here is acting like it will definitely release at the maximum threshold.
I get that people are just hating WoW on purpose, but at the very least shitpost over something legitimate. WoD has plenty of sticking points already without yall having to bend the truth. It's a little sad desu senpai.
>>315590810
Gorribal and Taeshalach?
>>315585447
>September 2016
kek the game wont make it to september at this rate. Western servers are already dead as fuck. This is officially the end of Wow. Its been a nice ride guys, of to prepare for Fallout and FF 3.1!
Who has the collage of the bored as fuck Germans at the Gamescon reveal? That shit is fucking gospel now.
>>315591232
selective reading
at this point i'd just stay out of these types of threads. no one on this website even likes video games, let alone Blizzard as a company
>>315591232
>much earlier
>1 month
And you complain about hyperbole, oh the irony.
>>315590894
because,,,,, he's,,,, dark,,, and,,,, edgy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>>315591382
they weren't bored, they were confused because the announcement was in english and they could probably all barely understand the information being announced (if they understood it at all)
>Blizzards face when Q4 numbers
Just end it already.
>>315587069
How about you check this month's graph, only 100k subs lost compared to the doomsayers "Millions more will be lost"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRTO7co_Yc
>>315591370
>glad wow is dead!
>time to play slower wow instead!
At least replace it with something good.
>>315591602
>what is wow token
>>315591602
Good thing they decided after that they aren't going announcing sub numbers anymore.
>>315591431
>what are averages
>>315590894
Do you really....care?
>>315591069
I'm not...but if i was....i would type like...this
>>315591487
C'mon man. Let's enjoy the fun while we can. Please? At this point Blizzcon has to suck everyone in the audience and through their stream off to make it feel better. Just let me have my fun.
>>315591602
That's counting tokens. Blizzard themselves already admitted defeat by stating they won't reveal sub numbers any more. You can stop now, it's finally over.
>>315591758
Where WoW dies, Heavensward will take on in its place.
>>315591832
>2.5s GCD
Why would people quit a game to play the same game but on slow motion?
>>315591758
>>315591670
i don't understand, does the token not count? it's still purchased with real money by someone
>>315591891
Because it has content and doesn't jew the shit out of you. Unlike Blizzard, Yoshi and his team actually give a shit.
>>315586205
I think we'll all be dead before wow truly has a sub count of 0, or until blizzard manually pulls the plug because they figure doing WoW 2 makes them more money and they have a head start by forcing the old community to migrate.
I mean, fucking >10 years and they're still above any numbers that any other MMORPG, sub-based or otherwise, was able to achieve. I couldn't explain this garbage to you if my life depended on it, but there are apparently really people who have unironically enjoyed the game for so many years.
If you think about something like Everquest which is still running, I have a hard time seeing how WoW will have sub 1 mil numbers before 2020.
>>315591891
Because its more fun that way.
>>315591487
That's just bullshit
20-something German nerds probably know basic English
I live in a country that is much worse at English than Germany and even we would have understood
Also I clearly remember German translations on the panel
Most importantly you see new continent with the picture of it artifacts with pictures new class demon hunter etc you're definitely gonna understand and if it doesnt hype you it's not because you didn't get it
Is anyone restreaming blizzcon tommorrow?
>>315591891
For the same reason that people prefer playing Strategy games over MOBAs.
>>315591937
They do, and Blizzard is now making more money than ever, even with 5.5 million subs because people just buy token to trade for gold.
Reminder that Blizzard is saving a BIG announcement for Legion tomorrow.
They purposely did not unveil it during GamesCom's Legion reveal and is waiting until Blizzcon.
I'm not expecting much, but what do you think it will be? Will it save WoW?
>>315592110
Don't worry man. There's gonna be a thread with links to streams. We never miss a good ol' Blizzcon thread here on /v/.
>>315588467
am I the only one who enjoyed it simply because it freshened up the 1-60 experience significantly? was actually pretty cool leveling another twink
>>315592110
Does anybody even care about Blizzcon tomorrow? This is pretty much all the info that matters.
>>315592134
That's a terrible comparison. Those are not even close to being the same game. While XIV and WoW are literally the same thing just one is slowed down for console kids.
>token prices nearly doubled since I bought 5 of them
Should have bought more I guess
>>315591891
The game has completely different focus with its gameplay mechanics.
It isn't even slow at all in later levels.
The biggest problem with FFXIV is how slowly it opens up when you're leveling
>>315592246
Yeah a big announcement, like the supposed Q&A at Gamescom that turned out to be nothing.
>>315592284
Everyone is basically waiting for the full movie trailer.
>>315592246
New store mount!
>>315591937
For all you know Blizzard could have put out tokens themselves.
Besides 1 token /=/ 1 sub. Just because someone decided to spend real money on a token doesn't mean people would have subbed if that option wasn't there.
If there was no token people with a lot of gold may have reconsidered and left the game instead. Whereas now they have the option to continue without spending real money.
>>315592284
I'm gonna be watching for the bored and disappointed faces when it's all damage control, starcraft, hearthstone and overwatch nothingness.
>>315592246
are they ?
i already expected something big last year,and i got overwatch
>>315592289
Well MOBAs are Strategy games except without buildings and macro management just like WoW is FFXIV except with 90% less spells per class
>>315592384
To that CGI infested shitfest?
>>315592246
>blizzard big announcement
zero hype, I've learned my lesson
>>315592449
>play WoD for 2 months
>basically make half a million even while the market was drying up
>tfw unsubbed, sitting on all this money, waiting for LEGIONshit
>>315586439
>tfw loved MoP when it was still current
I don't see why it got so much hate.
>>315592246
Limited edition store mount. Also an increase in cost for paid character services to generate more resources so they can finally start giving us the relevant content we've all been waiting for:The dance studio.
>>315592384
The Q&As for WoW are going to be amazing if they don't screen all the people calling wow out on their shit.
>>315592246
A new playable race.
>>315587786
I just wanted some fucking dungeons. Fuck MoP and its shit daily hubs. Only good thing to come out of that expansion was Throne of Thunder. WoD launch dungeons were better than MoP's, but once again Blizzard failed to add any post launch. Everyone fucking loved the ICC and HoT dungeons, why haven't they done that shit again?
>>315592731
because if people wanted an asian mmo they'd play tera or aion or some shit like that
>>315592502
>MOBAs are Strategy games
MOBA is the least strategic, tactical, skilled and most basic game genre. That's exactly why they are so popular.
>>315592449
this is the dumbest post in this whole thread lol
>>315586439
no, mop was shit and anyone that says otherwise is a newfag that didnt play bc
>>315591986
The game is in a content drought and the next patch brings barely anything worthwhile to the table
>4boss raid
>no pvp
>irrelevant dungeons on release
>story content you can complete in a day
>trials you do once
okay dude
>>315586653
The difference is the artifact thing is confirmed to be pretty short and it's the first thing you do because it's literally the only weapon you get in Legion
>>315592867
they were taking votes on the forums to answer pre-selected questions so they may not even have a Q&A
mfw 2016
>>315592246
World of Warcrafton consolesFree for those guys because they pay for Xbox Live/PSN
>>315586439
>People liked Mop
Fuck Mop, basing a whole expansions around Pandaren was dumb as fuck.
I miss wotlk.
>>315592731
Retarded Furfag Hate aside, It was really gated in the beginning by an abundance of dailies, and SoO and the patch before it wasn't well received and SoO lasted too long.
It's still my 2nd favorite expac though.
>>315592997
Why anon? Is it too hard for you to understand? Want a picture with pretty colors?
>>315592920
They're still RTS derivatives, you imbecile
>>315592502
>Well MOBAs are Strategy games except without buildings and macro management
So they are not the same at all.
>WoW is FFXIV except with 90% less spells per class
>Look at all these abilities! They all do damage but have even longer cooldowns than just 2.5s or need to be used one after the other so that makes them varied and complex!
Your shit might work on someone who hasn't played the games. The ability pruning in WoW was good in removing bloat that XIV pretends to add complexity, but none of it matters if it doesn't bring any interesting mechanics.
>>315593158
if you'd like to make an ass of yourself trying to explain how $20 a token isn't money in blizz's pocket and more revenue via gold-paid tokens isn't good for blizz in general, go right ahead and provide a graph or something
>>315590425
Twitter patch was worse.
>>315586792
>Blizzard is now officially dying
>Shitty card game that they just pump out a new pack or raid every so often earns more than wow
>Tons of other shitty games that people will lap up.
At this stage, wow dying will benefit Blizzard.
>>315592920
MOBAs literally originate from several mods on several Strategy games like Starcraft and Warcraft 3 you silly twat.
>>315586439
WoW has been legally dead since 3.2
>>315586980
>ammy - Fun
>Elemental Shammy - Not fun
>Feral Druid - Not fun
>Balance Druid - Not fun
>Windwalker Monk - Not fun
>Frost DK - Not fun
>Unholy DK - Not fun
>Fury Warrior - Fun
>Arms Warrior - Not fun
>Affliction Warlock - Not fun
>Demonology Warlock - Fun
>Destruction Warlock - Not fun
>Subtlety Rogue - Fun
Are you literally me?
>>315593081
That shit is free. Legion costs 50 bucks.
>>315592284
If you don't watch the costume and talent contests, and the Q&A, then you are missing some quality cringe and autism.
>September
lmao no fucking way, the game would literally die. Surely Bl(j)izz can't be that stupid
>>315587294
Here's the thing, WoW is a completely unfun piece of crap right now that hasn't had new content in months.
I'm pretty sure those 5.5 million players that are left now are the ones who are in too deep, they're stuck in WoW for life and have absolutely no will of their own to escape.
Blizzard could do literally nothing forever and the people still playing today would never stop playing. Who knows what the fuck they're doing? ERP maybe?
>>315587786
I preferred Wod to cata and Mop.
>>315593319
That doesn't make them RTS
It's like warcraft 3 but you only have the hero
RTS for retards also the worst custom map,ruined wc3 bnet lobby reeee
>>315593110
>tfw did Klaxxi, Golden Lotus, and Cloud Serpent dailies
I don't really regret it.
>>315593220
>>315593319
LoLplebs detected. Why are lolkids always so salty, is that because no one respect them in the gaming community, not even other lolplayers?
>>315593319
>MOBAs literally originate from several mods on several Strategy games
>mods
And those custom maps removed basic mechanics that make strategy games essentially what they are. If you are removing mechanics and replacing them with something else then you are basically making a different genre. When will you fags accept ASSFAGGOTS are not and will never be strategy games.
>>315592284
I want to see what payment model Overwatch will use. Also the Q&A might have some funny moments in it
>>315593578
i'm amazed at some of the hardcore guilds wod killed, thought they were in it for life
>>315593319
Would you call Uther party an RTS ?
>>315585447
>Increased the price of WoW expansions
>while decreasing the amount of content they bring
Bravo.
>>315593578
Pretty sure a huge part of those "subs" are from Asia where they pay by time played and they aren't even playing anymore
>>315591602
> only 100k subs lost
And the game is the least popular it's been in almost the entirety of it's existence. The only time the game has been less popular than now is when it first launched. Think about that for a second.
>>315589745
This would be really fun if people wasn't able to use every fucking optional item you can grab on the game. Remember the necklass from jade forest which made you immortal. Every single noob on my server was using it.
The same could be told to Tanaan jungle nowadays, but some retard people like to use macro to tag arena to avoïd death and reset their CD when they are actually ganking people on tanaan...
That why i hate PvP out of BG or Arena, people try to use everytime some sort of unbalanced cheat to have advantage.
>>315593289
The post I replied to claimed tokens are the same as one sub. Which is wrong because without the token option a lot more people would have quit.
Hence the 'lack' of sub drops is due to the addition of the token, allowing those with a lot of gold to stay subbed for no real loss, and those with a lot of money to buy tokens for gold.
Or are you trying to argue that people wouldn't rather pay for their subs with in-game currency than real money?
>>315585447
>Expected game release on or before September 21st, 2016
>release on or before September 21st, 2016
>September 21st, 2016
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynx26LJ1YC4
>>315592246
End of subscription model!
Not holding my breath.
>>315593783
Of course. Though just like MOBAs it relies entirely on micro-management.
Haven't played since 4.0.6
Worth getting back into? All I did when I played last anyway was spam BGs on my ele shaman...
>>315594126
NOPE. Game is gone for good.
>>315594025
>Uther Party is an RTS
This much delusion.
WoW will be entirely F2P before or shortly after the release of Legion. Trust me.
>>315594025
But you're not doing any strategy
Because it runs on an RTS engine doesn't make it an RTS
Is Portal a shooter ?
>>315594226
Maybe if Legion is a disaster they might go f2p when the next expansion hits. It's pretty unlikely tho
>>315594357
>Maybe if Legion
>It's pretty unlikely tho
Where have you been these past few years?
>>315586439
Best expansion actually.
>>315593857
no, i was wondering why anyone thinks it's somehow different than a regular sub
>hurr durr wow tokens tho
so fucking what?
>>315594357
I don't see them going f2p immediately. Maybe they'll just remove the subscription fee and stop doing major content patches so they can churn out a $60 expansion every year.
>>315594126
Dont enter a game when they just announced like a year of no content.
Come shorty before Legion drops or not at all.
>>315594478
Meant it's unlikely they will go f2p, even if Legion is a disaster
>>315594549
I literally just explained to you, is it still too hard to understand?
Just give us something between now and Legion.
Anything, I don't care. It can be Ruby Sanctum levels of pointless, I just want new content.
>>315594549
He just explained it to you, you fucking moron. Tokens inflate the sub number because plenty of people who would have otherwise quit pay the subscription with fake currency over real one. That's fucking what.
>>315594656
I think they'll go F2P but with some sort of Premium subscription like SWtOR did.
>>315594654
If he already owns WoD on his account, might as well scratch that itch for a month.
If he doesn't own WoD, better for him to stay away.
>>315594478
I'm sure a company that just bought the most popular mobile game that has ever existed is going to let their game go ftp
they probably make enough from microtransactions in hearthstone to keep WoW afloat for many years to come
>Tfw WoWkuks were trying to shitpost about FFXIV having one patch that takes 5 months to releaseeven though it's only been 4 months and 1 week.
>WoD has 1 (ONE) content update with a 15 month wait from 6.2 to the next paid content patch.
>>315594752
how is it "inflated" if someone still paid $20 for them to trade for gold? what you're implying is that the wow token somehow doesn't count when it actually counts for more than a regular one month sub
>>315594656
Oh. Right. Sorry for being a faggot then.
>>315594807
Well yeah, at best he could log on, get a character to max and get ready for the next expansion by preparing gold, bags and other shit.
But that shit wont last for too long and personally I wouldnt sub to a game like that without at least committing to like three months. And thats simply not a given in WoD, at least to me.
>>315594742
I don't understand why they do not do this, one or two minor content patches. Something new with PVE or PVP, some like the timeless isle.
The only excuse I have heard to as to not do this is it could affect legion, but they brought in a ton of developers, could it not be possible to have a small team release minor shit every so often, even a new mount or pets to collect anything.
Ill probably finally get around to doing hellfire, do some pvp and Role play until legion.
>>315594897
>ARR fags here trying to play the victim
You fucks are loud and obnoxious in every MMO thread here, piss off.
>>315595042
Well they just did add a mount to hellfire heroic.
Thats not enough though.
>>315589053
Reminds me of the Time album by ELO.
>>315594897
Its funny because FF14 niggers will still raid 4boss Alexander for the next five months.
WoD might actually end up with more content overall than Heavensward.
>>315595127
It is something to aim for at least and a win that it was meant to be a store mount.
But I would sooner have mini patches with some content here and there rather than waiting months for a major content patch.
>>315588143
Just so you know Yoshi's team only took a one week break so there is no excuse for taking a five month gap.
>Yoshida: After Heavensward was released, we gave the team about a week of holiday. I think everyone needed a week off to take a mental break. That said, for some of the core team, including myself, it was business as usual
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/126902-Famitsu-Interview-Translation-Yoshida-on-Patch-3.1-and-Beyond?p=6560729&viewfull=1#post6560729
>>315586882
tfw i couldn't get past lvl 30
what has modern vidya done to me
>>315594936
How can you be this fucking dumb? No one is saying wow tokens doesn't generate more value for Blizzard.
What is being said is that the sub numbers would have been significantly lower without the option to use a token.
>>315594936
Because those are subscription numbers, not revenue numbers. There's far less players than they pretend there are active.
But then again given all you are doing here is damage control I can see why you'd only care about how much money the company is making over how populated the servers actually are,Bashiok.
I quit early early cataclysm after raiding with a top 10 world guild in WoTLK. I came back in WoD to try and play like I did in TBC where I just did dungeons and pugged shit (my favorite time I ever had in the game was in TBC just pugging things, I even pugged vashj and kael). Turns out the game has next to no dungeon content and with the way raids are released each new read invalidates the last. So even though the new raid with archimonde (whatever it is called) is out, no one does highmaul. So you basically have like 6 shitty heroics and 1 raid to play. It's so fucking bad I knew I should have never come back. I don't think WoW will ever have as much content as it did in TBC, and to a lesser extent WoTLK, again.
Fuck dailies and fuck raids.
>>315595251
I really think that it would be better if they simply took those 13 boss raids, took some bosses away and released them later.
Then they could also flesh them out some more and give people a reason to come back at some point.
Or they couldve taken like three bosses from Hellfire Citadel, put those into Highmaul instead and advertise that as a proper raid tier with its own tier sets and shit.
But no, gotta make it a nontier and make it completely irrelevant three months into the expansion.
>>315586882
>Reach level 60 as a warrior
>back to the golden age of tanking
>end up with all my gear
>raid level tanks not on high demand anymore
>>315595061
That's because there's so many of us.
Plus
>/v/
>MMO threads besides FFXIV threads that aren't just making fun of the game.
>>315595307
It's only been 4 months and 1 week. Do the math.
We're still on schedule.
>>315595413
>with the way raids are released each new read invalidates the last.
Holy shit this
In late vanilla people were still leveling up
In late bc people were still doing Karazhan
In late wotlk people still ran heroics
But if you make your content easy,fast to get through and give guaranteed rewards it's going to become irrelevant MUCH faster
>>315595413
>Turns out the game has next to no dungeon content and with the way raids are released each new read invalidates the last.
Yea, fuck the lack of progression in the ass. Back in the days of BC you still had guilds running TK/BT even at the end of the bloody expansion.
Hell, I tanked Karazhan and helped two guilds with their raids on my free time.
>>315595726
>MMO threads besides FFXIV threads that aren't just making fun of the game.
It's the same for XIV. Comes with the fact it's literally WoW.
REMINDER THAT 15 MONTHS IS WELL WORTH THE WAIT TO BECOME THE MOTHERFUCKING ASHBRINGER
>>315595413
Lack of content has also caused everyting to be time gated. It makes sense for raids but why the fuck is my profession time gated? Or reputations you can only get from dailies?
>FFXIV
>expansion out
Is it too late to start? Have they neutered the original world like they did to Azeroth a while after BC came out?
>>315595813
You can't do that currently though. They've made is so that mythic is such a fucking gear gate that if most of your raid aren't fucking jacked up in the best pre-mythic shit, you're going to get stomped on boss 1.
>>315595914
I know you are shitposting but it saddens me how many people there are who do consider this a good thing.
>>315595413
>>315595813
>>315595816
How is that interesting to anybody but late adopters which are basically casuals who dont matter?
I dont want to run old content over and over, I want more new content.
MoP delivered in that regard. I was always occupied. WoD did not.
>>315595813
>>315595816
I'm glad other people get it. That was the best part of it. You had a clear structure and you always had something to strive towards. Now there is nothing to strive towards. You're already it. You aren't? Well do some tanaan jungle dailies and you are again. You're never working towards anything further than what you are working on right now.
>>315596013
How does not invalidating old content hurt you? Or is your idea of "running old content" not jumping straight to the latest raid tier to get gear that does not matter?
>>315596013
Instead of running the same raid all the time you get to run 3-4 different ones
Not because you're late but because it's still relevant for gear purposes
>>315596191
It barely matters. People who actually play the game have no reason to run this old shit either way.
If you cry about old content being invalidated by newer content then that means that you either came late or that you are shit at the game.
For me as a raid leader this also causes quite a few problems. A lack of catchup means that there's less players to pick up and ultimately it could lead to shitty carrying runs of old raids which are a magnificent waste of time.
Its the greatest nonissue. The game needs more new content rather than reused old content.
>>315596395
Thats not how it works. If you arent close to BiS of a given tier before the new one comes out then I have no idea what you were actually doing. Clearly not raiding the content when you were supposed to.
I don't mind having to do the beginning raids to gear up for the new ones.
At the same time though, it begs the question of what the purpose of non-raid new content is though if the gear you get from doing it still isn't as good as stuff from a raid 3 content patches ago.
>>315595953
Nope, not too late at all.
The original game is still in it's exact 2013 state other than the fact that alt classes gain 100% more XP.
Most people even consider the fact that it's left the same an annoyance because you have to go through the 30+ hour level 50 2.1-2.55 main quest line before you can get to HW.
Just buy the base game until you get through all of that because the only thing that will be locked away from you is the Aura race.
>>315595901
No it's not.
Most FFXIV threads are actually really comfy. The only shitposting comes from attention whores.
>>315596013
Speaking as someone who wasn't a late adopter in wotlk and did everything in TBC (except m'uru pre-nerf, had him sub 25% though) it's extremely appealing for alts. It also appeals to the hardcore raider in me because there is always something to do rather than log on and do your raid for 2 hours a week. And it's not about old content, it's about varied content. Even after I got attuned for t6 and was working on sunwell I still had tons of shit to do each week that wasn't sunwell. We had a BT clear, ZA runs, and I still did heroics each day. Since there were so many different heroics it never got that boring because of the variation, something that is sorely lacking from WoD (idk about MoP, never played MoP).
But the only people it is annoying for is elite-tier raiders. And speaking as someone who was one it isn't that annoying. It's such a massive boon to the general population that the minor inconvenience to the .5% is worth it.
I would rather play tbc and wotlk and NEVER step foot in a raid than play WOD with access to everything it has. That's how big the gulf is.
People don't understand that Legion has been in development since WoD, its practically the same as WoD.
WoW doesn't even have any RPG elements in the game anymore its just a MMO soon to be a MO.
>>315596673
>Most FFXIV threads are actually really comfy.
> The only shitposting comes from attention whores
>which is all the time
okay
>>315587620
Mage is pretty fun
>>315596763
There's a difference between Nep and 200-300 anons laughing at WoD content drought or the Guildwars 2 devs.
>>315596524
Alts. I had a blast raiding on my priest alt during BC.
Instead of raiding the same tier with another class after your finish on your main, you could still play the older raids and have fun. Clearing BT on my alt was very fun.
>>315588310
Rest in peace timeless isle. We'd gather in the underwater cavern with that spooky fire and 4 chairs to censer in unison, then we'd go haunt the ghost cave occasionally spamming general that a rare spawned inside. Killing your own faction was the best thing that ever happened to wpvp.
>>315596673
Dude you always post this picture when you shill for FFXIV. This almost counts as avatarfagging.
>>315596956
Not him, but my guild wouldn't have time for that shit. You raided the new content, when it came out, and if you were a tier behind, too fucking bad. Join another guild until you're geared up.
>>315593716
>Honor Capped
literally the worst guild out there
>>315597251
Let me green text what I said.
>finish wiping in the Sunwell
>log out
>Run BT with my friends guild on my Priest
>>315596524
Except you are thinking of it in reverse. I'm the top 10 world guy. I was in an extremely good cutting edge progression guild in wotlk (and did sunwell in TBC but not on that level). If you are doing it right you aren't doing old content ANYWAY. If you were still doing heroics or karazhan or za or t5 or even black temple in a lot of cases, while working on sunwell, then you were doing it wrong. In wotlk if you were still doing ulduar when ICC was out, something was wrong.
BUT, it gave that sense of progression because you needed to do those older things to get to the first one. I can't think of a single time in my period of playing WoW that I was forced into running old content over and over in order to progress. Once you finished one tier you moved onto the next.
Now I don't really know about MoP or very much about Cata (I quit like 3 weeks into Cata) but WoD is completely pointless trying to play if you are coming back.
Not only does it makes the game feel extremely small in scale but it takes away any sense of progression in power. Since you hit max level, do some dailies and you're at the final boss.
Hell, if anything now it's re-running old content more than before since you literally run the same raid in 3 difficulties. So rather than do 3 different, unique raids, you just raid the same thing 3 different times.
>>315597396
I heard what you said. Why aren't all of your characters at current content?
>>315597251
You can have a main doing current content and an alt doing pickup in the older content. Which is just as enjoyable as it was a few months ago.
That's what I did in BC and I loved it.
I tried it in Cataclysm too,but in a single day of dungeons and LFR I was geared up already. I didn't even set foot in the previous raids even once.
At this point I also didn't want to keep playing that alt anymore since he'd do the same raid as my main making me do the exact same shit twice a week.
>>315586980
>Fury Warrior - Fun
You can't be serious. Unless you have BIS crit gear, you spend 30% of your rotation "waiting" for procs.
>>315596524
It used to be:
>do t1
>do t2
>do t3
>etc
Now it's
>do t7
>do t7 heroic
>do t7 mythic
Do you see what the difference is? It's still the same thing fundamentally but rather than travel to varied locations to get varied loot you just kill the same bosses 3 different times for the same loot just with slightly different numbers.
>>315597456
Well, it was mainly because we only raided two days and lacked the skilled people we used in our main guilds.
We also had a problem with people treating it as a "get geared and apply for that other better guild" stepping stone.
>>315595914
While FFXI's legendary weapons require over 200 hours of grind, millions of gil, and doesn't get outdated because there is always a use for them.
Hell, you get a choice between relic, emperyan, and relic and they're all relevant content even after 14 years.
Also even more gear will come out when next week the conclusion to FFXI happens so at least FFXI gets a proper end to the mmo. WoW will never get a proper ending.
This happens every year now, WoW will increase in subs - not alot this time round. People will play for 2-4 months then get bored and quit. Blizzard have killed the game to make it a amusement park MMO where you enjoy it for abit then leave. Long term they just can't keep the players because of stupid exp rates and no creativity to help max levels. Legion has the least amount of zones in an expac and a shitty Legendary system thats probably the exact same as the current legendaries (Cape and Ring) but it a more 'pro-active' form. You're literally paying for the same shit every year, the zones are all squashed compact shitholes. Take a look at the legion map and tell me with as straight face that the layout of each zone is pretty much identical, Blizzard will never make fleshed out massive zones ever again, they complain about people not seeing the world when it takes you 5 seconds on your 300% speed mount go go from one point of interest to another. Remember when you ran across Dragonblight on your mount? or walked from one of Ashenvale to another? those areas made you feel enwarped in the world, now you just get shit generic circle zone overloaded with points of interest that absolutely dull the scale of the zone down. Also reusing Dalaran just screams damage control. They couldn't even find the time to make a bigger better city because they're such fucking kikes. Blizzard deserve to lose a bunch of subs and I hope their doghsit CGI movie flops too.
>>315589571
Did they buff the human racial in WoD? I play a human and I didn't noticed shit. How come I'm seeing everyone bitch so much about it all of a sudden? I definitely see why Stoneform is overpowered though, but that was a deliberate buff. EMFH has been around for like 3 expansions, hasn't it?
>>315590036
And each of those 30 bosses has 4 difficulties, so 120 bosses in WoD.
>>315596956
I dont know how thats "a blast".
Every time someone says a thing is a blast its actually never a blast.
How is running raids you were running for six months and more a blast?
I dont believe you. Every time I was raiding through a whole tier with people everybody was completely burnt out on it by the time the next tier came out.
>>315597409
All this sense of progression garbage needs to fuck off.
You said it yourself. Doing it that way is doing it wrong.
You feel a proper sense of progression while actually progressing through the content when it is fresh. You can still clearly see that a Mythic player put a lot more work in than a normal raider.
And most of all this isnt a fix to the game at all. We need more content. Not this nonsense.
>>315597695
No, thats bullshit. If you actually played from launch you will progress through the tiers all the same.
This shit only matters to casuals who join much later.
But thats on the same level as those starting with WOTLK bitching about not progress raiding through Sunwell.
>>315597914
>>315597662
>You can have a main doing current content and an alt doing pickup in the older content.
You have a very long time between patches. You can get 3-4 characters always at current content BiS before the next set of content is out. 5-6 if you want to completly nolife it.
>>315597760
>We also had a problem with people treating it as a "get geared and apply for that other better guild" stepping stone.
What's wrong with that? It keeps out the people who aren't qualified.
>>315597841
The complaint isn't about emfh, it's about the 10% rep bonus.
>>315585447
You'll never learn.
>>315589571
There is a point where there's too much shit on your screen.
>>315597996
>ou can get 3-4 characters always at current content BiS before the next set of content is out.
>running the same raid 3-4 times a week
>>315586981
I wish it was true but we all know it will take at least one more expansion to bleed out.
>>315598163
Half of it just popped up because the boss died.
>>315598163
With all the hand-holding addons you can pretty much play WoW with nothing but the interface.
>>315597773
Agreed with everything but the last part. Fuck you, Duncan Jones directed some of the best sci-fi movies of the last 10 years, he will save the Warcraft film, 88% on rotten tomatoes, calling it now, screencap this shit.
>>315589303
Why haven't they put the voice chat into the battle net launcher yet? It's useless as fuck since it's in game only
>>315598202
I mentioned 6 as the high point because I did it in BC.
>>315598043
Are you trolling me? Hasn't that been in the game even longer? And who even really cares?
>>315598317
>putting more focus on the orcs
>somehow saving the film
JUST
>>315598363
No, it's because the rep grinds in wod are very long winded and the ones added with tanaan are required for flying. Humans finish very quickly compared to others and don't need to keep doing the same repetitive thing.
The dungeon event sorted it out a little, makes it easier for everyone to get rep.
My advice to Blizzard:
Stop.
>>315598432
You clearly haven't played any of the WC RTS games.
>>315597928
>But thats on the same level as those starting with WOTLK bitching about not progress raiding through Sunwell.
You're really reaching..comparing whole expansions with tiered content patches.
Tiered progression is still alive in other games, and it's the only true retention mechanic an mmo can have You want to grind 1 tier for months on end, be my guest.
>>315596982
That cave actually teleports you to another similar cave in Draenor now.
>>315588194
no you retard, blizzard announced there were 5.5m subs AND that they weren't going to report subs anymore
>>315598317
If you pause the trailer during the scene at stormwind you can clearly see the cgi looks like complete garbage
>>315585738
>Blizz rewarding long time players by allowing you to skip the grind again.
Sorry after 10+ max level characters shit like this is gold. That shits been in the game for years, and we're all tired of seeing it by now.
>>315586590
Yeah I mean there's no reason why players on a lv100 character cant go back to the Barrens and do quests they skipped for no experience, and worthless items!
Quality post
>>315598574
Neither has Blizzard if their recent orc lore is anything to go by.
And considering they veto the script for the movie I don't have any high hopes whatsoever.
>>315598352
When did you sleep?
>>315598619
>Selling character progression for money
>Rewarding long time players
>>315587516
What SHIT taste in fonts. HOLY FUCK.
>>315598619
>10+ max level characters
>still wanting to make more
Why? I don't even have a use for the level 90 boost
>>315598580
>and it's the only true retention mechanic an mmo can have
No. New content is the best true retention mechanic. Difficult content is too.
I have absolutely no problem with doing one tier of content as long as I dont completely clear it before the next tier comes out.
Now when I DO clear it it becomes an issue.
But tiered progression wont help me in that situation at all, because when I did all in the current tier you bet your ass that I did it all in the previous.
>>315586439
No not at all, the zones were kinda cool but nothing to do end game and the PvP was beyond broken with warriors 1 shotting people for over 300k while having a aoe stun and ranged silence.
>>315598615
CGI =/= Good writing and direction.
BC > WoTLK> Pandaland > Cata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warlords of Draenor
The amount of shallow pandering Blizz has made for this upcoming expansion is laughable.
>You've been gossiping so long about that Demon Hunter hero class, so here it is!
>We know you've wanted to go to the Emerald Dream, so here it is as a raid!
>Wondered where Alleria and Turaylon went? Let me spoil for you real quick that they're going to show up
>EVERYONE CAN HAVE AN ASHBRINGER
>Oh the Garrisons were lonely and you miss non-homogenized classes, well you have a Garrison for your class now
No Mystery or fun to be had whatsoever
>>315598763
Sundays
>>315598619
I too have every character to max level but still I'd never pay for that shit
Seriously 1-100 is less than 24 hours of /played,every class is OP now and everything is as convenient as possible
I don't even feel bad about it existing though. If leveling was still a big time sink I'd be butthurt but that's just wasting your money now
>>315598853
I like to find old friends when i get bored who still play and start fresh on their servers with each expansion.
>>315598793
Yeah exactly, though I never bought a boost myself; I just used the one that came with the last expansion, and then the one that will come with this expansion if I get it. It was a nice being able to just have a rogue all of a sudden at max to open boxes up and to fuck with people with. I don't find grinding though 5 to 10 years worth of old content to be that enriching each time. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
>>315588782
mop removed talent trees rip wow
So has there been a single expansion that hasn't had a year or so break between content releases?
I mean Jesus, it's completely cyclical. You can play for a year, quit for a year, and then play for a year, and you miss nothing.
>>315588782
Didn't stop the masses from screaming MOP was shit about a year or two ago. Especially on /v/. I think it just proves people are never satisfied until they realize they had more than they thought.Entitlement, maybe?
>>315598858
>I have absolutely no problem with doing one tier of content as long as I dont completely clear it before the next tier comes out.
Remember Tier 7?
>>315599310
Well yeah, when the next expansion is always worse than the last, people are likely to say the last expansion was better
>>315599310
I thought MoP was great. I picked it up on free 7 days expecting it to be shit and ended up staying all the way until WoD. The raids were all pretty damn good.
>WoD will have lasted as long as every other expansion with 1/3rd of the content
lmfao
anyone else thinking they will announce the end of the subscription model tomorrow? it could also explain why they "won't announce subscriber numbers in future quarters".
a pipe dream, sure...a small part of me, like many of you, wants to see this corporation become a little bit sane.
>>315585447
>September 2016
Whoa hold the fucking phone
September 2016?
Roughly 10 months from now?
What?
Im am xivfag and this 5 month extended wait is wearing me out, but what the shit is this nearly 1 year wait?
Does the game get content updates or something in the meantime?
>>315599310
mop was shit
just because it was better than cataclysm doesn't mean it was good
>>315599405
I wish I did not.
Now the fun part with tier7 is, you wouldnt even be able to go back to a previous raid even if you wanted to.
Fuck WOTLK. Or rather TBC with its special treatment bullshit.
Fuck both.
>>315599420
But just because it's better doesn't all of a sudden make it good. People are now saying it is good. Something doesn't get better because something else is worse. Proving that people will always want more even when the amount is appetizing.
>>315599310
That's only part of the truth. WoD genuinely does have much less content than previous expansions.
Blizzard is doing what all other AAA devs are doing, high production value (pretty graphics and presentation) and cut out depth and content to compensate.
Why do you think the new Battlefront doesn't have all the content of the old games? Same reason.
>>315586439
No.
I'm still mad that people defended the talent butcher, but though the skill butcher was "a bit too much".
>>315599310
Yeah "the masses" are so entitled,fuck them
They have no new content ? Let them eat 15 difficulty tiers of the same content
Man go fuck yourself
>>315599310
I was completely satisfied with MoP.
Many didnt even give MoP a chance though. Because muh pandas.
>>315599405
>Clear Naxx in the first week of fucking raiding
>Malygos two weeks later
>four weeks of "hard mode" wipes
ok
>>315599310
>defend MoP from every shitter on the internet for years
>now that it's remembered fondly, am always told that I just took it for granted.
i hate living
>>315588665
I've had plenty of fun little impromptu battles with random people in the world, otherwise it's no fun killing low levels, mostly I just put on my fishing gear and chase them around hitting them for little damage
>>315599583
Blizzard fucked WoD over by doing Ashran and Garrisons.
Thats all there is to it ,really.
That shit ate up all the development time and the result wasnt even truly finished.
>>315599594
You missed the point entirely.
I'm talking about people all of a sudden being content with MoP when they hated the piss out of it before.
>>315599585
>the talent tree where only about 3 or 4 actually changed the way you play is better than the one that gives you 18 abilities to choose from
Nice, dude.
>>315599747
That's true but I still hate your attitude in general
>>315586980
i agree completely
i almost enjoyed windwalker monk and feral druid for a second there but it got super tedious
thank god i finished today, i never have to log in again
>>315592920
>I AM COMPLETELY SHIT AT THIS TYPE OF GAME AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL
>>315599807
That usually happens when you come out on top. Maybe if you actually took the time to read through people's posts and understand them you'd be better at getting their intentions.
>>315586980
>waiting for procs is fun
no
>>315587831
But they do report them in their quarterly earnings.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/5063-WoW-Down-to-5-6-Million-Subscribers
>>315586980
>TFW Survival Hunter used to be fun
Maybe it'll be fun in the next expac being melee
>>315599747
i never hated mop though anon
>leveling through jade forest and valley for the first time
>>315599827
>i never have to log in again
Except when Legion comes out:^)
>post yfw tomorrow at blizzcon they will go up with a shit-eating grin on stage and make claims on how 'they recieved a lot of positive feedback from WoD' and how they're going to 'make sure to take it with them for Legion'
>bonus: afterwards they confirm release in september
>>315599913
Not anymore. They announced in the most recent earnings call this week that this would be the last time they announce em. KEEP UP NIGGA
>>315599791
Fuck you man, doing hybrid builds was fun as fuck, especially as a shaman, I remember as a death knight as well you could get all 3 of the death rune talents and never run out of runes
>>315599925
Yeah I didn't either, but the threads on /v/ at the time we're fucking horrendous. MoP theads just went into furry posting and people screaming pandas are ruining the game.
>>315599957
>implying the game will survive a full year
Why the fuck are people suddenly saying MOP was good? MoP was complete shit except for ToT and SoO.
WOD is shit too but come on.
>>315594252
It's strategy from the very beginning and the entire game is executing your draft strategy. The rest of it is full of small-scale strategy and THAT is full of tactics.
YOU ARE SHIT AT DOTA AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL.
>>315599827
I gave up after learning about a year of 0 new content
>>315600074
Pandaria was the best for levelling
>>315600074
>Suddenly
Anon I loved it from day 1. But I do think most people are realizing just how content spoiled we were during it, it had tons of new features and we've been reduced in WoD to just Garrisons being the only new feature.
>>315600074
5.1 probably had the most interesting world stuff in the game. It was just hidden behind a rep wall.
Seriously, the shit with Dalaran was like, the first time in a long time where I was actually impressed with the story direction in the game.
>>315600074
It was just the best expansion.
>>315599310
MOP did suck.
Pandas suck.
The story sucked.
I couldn't fucking stand this whole pseudo philosophic garbage that sounded like a 16yo stoner wrote it.
Ten billion fucking tedious dailies.
One year of soo
It sucked less than wod though I'll give them that. In contrast,it is good. In contrast.Only.
>>315600214
All the faction leader interaction was pretty good.
Garroshs nazi ways were hamfisted as fuck, but everybody else got treated in a really nice way.
MoP drove the actual politics forward the most out of all expansions.
>>315600171
You've gotta be shitting me. Even WoDs leveling is better, which says a lot.
>>315600193
>implying dailyfest 2012 was any better than garrisons
>>315588379
That is simply not true
>>315599997
You're a fucking degenerate. Fuck off. Talent tree removal was the one good thing they did.
>>315600082
With this thinking every game is strategy.
Also tactics aren't strategy either.
RTS is clearly defined by base building and army management and you're just playing on words like a faggot.
There's so much content in MoP. 5.2 had more content than all of WoD.
>>315600538
You prefer choosing one or two decent abilities and choosing the least shitty of the rest?
>>315600538
I'll take my sub par character that was truly my own over doing cookie cutter builds where everyone ends up the same any day
>>315600635
More options than the old talent trees.
Actually no wait, give me back the one that makes corruption instant again, that's fun. Or, how about the one that gives enemies less of a chance to resist my shadow abilities, so fucking fun. Do I choose that one, or drain mana?
Fucking.Degenerates.Fuck.Off.
>>315600428
Oh please, the dailies didn't give me free herbs and thousands of gold for doing nothing. Also I meant everything else
>WoD's new idea was garrisons
>Against Brawler's guild, Proving Grounds, pet battles, challenge modes, scenarios
We had a ton to do, now we don't have much of anything new like we did. Just recycled things.
>>315600538
Please kill yourself.
>>315599585
The old talent tree was good for vanilla leveling.
It made you feel like every level you actually progressed in a noticeable way,and you could choose which one. This is good because it was time consuming and talents felt like good rewards for it.
It's shit if the game is gonna play only at max level but then again in both systems you just take the cookie cutter build.
>mfw Pandaria lore
>mfw actual faction leader politics
>mfw the leveling
>mfw the mantids
>mfw challenge modes being the best addition to WoW has ever seen
>mfw monks
>mfw every raid was good
>mfw gameplay for most classes was great
>mfw every sub patch added nice content
>mfw world bosses
>mfw noodle carts
>mfw the new talent trees were a great idea
>mfw the farm
>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv2iBlWiXPs
>mfw a dedicated faction for fishing
>mfw Timeless Isle was great and shouldve been the default for future endgame zone design
Best expansion.
>>315600868
The way to rectify that is to extend the perk system back to level 1, and let your abilities get better as you level. Makes you pay attention to them, and you get the power rising feel.
Old talent trees were fucking AIDS, never again.
>>315600769
I'm not saying WoD is better, I'm just saying that MoP was terrible too. Especially if you compare it to TBC or WotLK.
>>315600908
i've never been more cozy in my life than when i was leveling to 90
>>315600868
Who cares? Leveling isn't even an important part of the game anymore.
>>315600737
Yes, getting locked out of the other schools it more options.
Are you autistic? who looks at a system that locks out other skills, removes hybridization and customization, and takes away stat modification in an rpg and says "Yes, that's an improvement"?
>>315601012
>mfw jokesters think an expansion with T7 and Trial of the Crusader can be anything but bottom of the barrel shit
>mfw TBC babbies overrate their shitheap greatly
>>315600074
>this fucking faggot
only guy worse is that ion hazzikostas retard
>>315600908
All I wanted more from out of MoP was an expanded written language. Everything else was spot on like you said, but gosh I'm a sucker for these things and what we were given wasn't very extensive at all. Can't even do proper sentences.
>>315599484
It can happen any time BEFORE Sept, which it most likely will
>>315601134
Ulduar and the mediocre ICC blind them.
MoP was fucking shit becausemy guild broke up toward the end of Cata and I haven't had any friends in the game since. ;-;
>>315598971
Oh no, they announced features for their game! THE HORROR!
>>315601103
>Yes, getting locked out of the other schools it more options.
Try again, this time pull your ass out of your butt and let's turn down the retard shall we?
>>315601148
Fuck you, he's partially responsible for Ratchet & Clank.
pandaland was garbage
the last good xpac was cata. literally.
it only sucked in the last tier desu.
>>315601158
Are there MMOs that give you access to a completely different language that isnt just a garbled word filter?
LOTRO aside I guess.
Just wondering because this would be interesting.
People make to much of a fuss about ToC its not like raiding was is or ever will be hard, you're fighting a fucking ai
can i play WoW on my ipad?
>>315597928
> feel a proper sense of progression while actually progressing through the content when it is fresh.
Key word: "fresh". With tiered progression it's ALWAYS fresh. Wihout it it's only fresh everytime they come out with a patch, no matter when you started playing.
There is absolutely no downsides to having tiered progression unless you are in a guild full of shitters and shitters keep leaving your shitter guild.
>>315600908
But that's not the Song of Liu Lang.
There's something comfy as fuck about Jim Cummings singing in not-chinese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZeQaGesVw
>>315601364
>doing PVP in a MMO
>ever
>>315601348
Full languages no I don't think so. Although Guild Wars 2 does have a unique actual alphabet, its something if you want to learn how to write those letters but its basically english with a new look.
>>315601446
First time I'm hearing this.
Did this ever play ingame? If so, where?
>>315600976
I don't know if anyone even levels up anymore these days though.
Clearly they're not focusing on that but on end game content instead (funny thing,you're at the end of the game but that's where all the content is,and a new player gets to 100 immediately,experiences only the end game and never the actual game)
Anyways my point is that if they're gonna do that talents should be tools to have diverse kinds of rotations. Rather than 1 pvp 1 pve 1 useless every tier.
>>315601094
Sure I never said it was. I'm not saying it's a good thing though.
>>315601364
What does the complaining about ToC have to do with difficulty?
1. Gated bosses
2. Two rooms
3. 5 bosses
>>315601458
>not loving the butthurt from people who cant kill you, yet think they are good because they can kill dragons
>>315601446
>>315600908
Sorry but you can never top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exI1X6cfh6A
>>315601552
>rolling warlock so I can make you asspained behind a pillar and then do top DPS in raids anyway
PvPers everybody.
>>315601494
So basically like Al Bhed.
I think thats neat enough already.
>>315601525
Wandering Isle
>>315599310
MoP was fun.
They made a lot of questionable decisions gameplaywise, such as gating charms behind dailies, never fixing the 10/25M disparity, and raping talents, but the art & music direction was spot on.
Timeless Isle was really fun, the world was chock full of stuff to find and places to explore, and the story was relatively cohesive (as far as Pandaria is concerned)
>>315601525
2 places. When leveling a Pandaren and you cross the huge bridge, under it there's some lorewalkers. One sings this, and then it's also sung at some weekly ingame event where NPC's walk to Krasrarang Turtle statue.
>>315601364
>turning the minigame into the main game
I bet you play RTS for the base-building and turn-based strategy for the fun and interactive combat.
>>315601526
>the actual game
Leveling up is, and always has been; the tutorial. The actual game is endgame.
Leveling up is slowly getting your skills every so often so you get a chance to learn them, and then getting a new one.
>>315601525
>1: On the Wandering Isle on the bridge to Morning Breeze Village, take the stairs down to where the cubs are learning.
>2: Krasarang Wilds at the statue of Liu-Lang during the Wanderer's Festival every sunday.
>>315601531
You know what I guess I did improperly word my post.
PVE is boring shit regardless of the box you are standing in. The only thing I have against ToC is anub arak being in it.
>>315601643
>>315601708
Oh. I just made one Panda and I guess I had sound off there.
And I didnt know about the Wanderers Festival shit.
Game has quite a few time based events hidden everywhere.
Man Pandaria had so much cool hidden shit. Like the ghost angler who gives you the special bait.
>>315601531
I don't remember how long the wait time was between ToC and ICC but my guild managed to clear it on hard just before ICC came so it was nicely timed
>>315601761
>The only thing I have against ToC is anub arak being in it.
Yes! He was supposed to have his own bloody zone and raid.
>>315601789
>ghost angler who gives you the special bait
Explain.
>>315601808
It was 8 months.
>>315601789
Yep thats something I loved about Pandaria. It had so many little touches that made the continent feel amazing. Books everywhere, little events, lots of characters having casual conversations, it felt really immersive.
>>315601364
>you're fighting a fucking ai
No, PvE means fighting human stupidity and unreliability
>>315601705
Leveling was very fleshed out though,with a lot if value on its own.
Definitely more than just a tutorial,that was a massive,relevant,amount of content.
If anything it was another game in itself.
If back in vanilla you started me at 60 without the open world and said go ahead tag in a queue run instances I'm not sure I'd have kept playing
>>315601930
This guy spawns every 12 hours or so, not sure but he disappears instantly after someone talks to him.
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=64004/ghostly-pandaren-fisherman
And he gives you this when you do
http://www.wowhead.com/item=85973/ancient-pandaren-fishing-charm
>>315601789
>Man Pandaria had so much cool hidden shit. Like the ghost angler who gives you the special bait.
Or the 6ish hidden Bogstroks that all dropped a piece of Lobstmourne, a lobster-themed fist weapon.
>>315601930
Kinda close to the panda farm there's a chance of a ghost fisherman spawning.
If you talk to him he gives you special bait.
When you turn it on you have a 10% chance to fish up an extra fish.
Reminder that fishing is by far the most fleshed out profession in WoW with the most amount of content attached to it.
>>315586182
>Tripfag writes an autobiography of his video game career
Nobody cares who you are, and nobody cares what you do
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>>315602187
Shit, that's awesome...I just might resub to experience that shit while leveling one of my alts...I let my time expire 3 days ago because I've been chasing the damn Horseman mount for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS.
>>315602257
Fug I forgot to do the horseman shit.
Never got it either.
Fucking elusive nigger mount.
>>315602257
>Horseman mount
>tfw I've had it since wrath
>>315602257
>Me and best friend spam horseman for years
>never won it when it was a roll
>never see got it from loot bags
>last hallows end in wotlk
>friends wife gets 3 of them
>one of them on a druid
>she doesnt ever use them
>>315602376
The mounts are account bound now anyways.
Good for me, because I got one of those blue drakes from a 5man in WOTLK on my druid and I kept it ever since without ever actually using it.
Now it works on all characters.
>>315602187
Fishing isn't fleshed out at all.
You cast fish and click the bobber.
>>315602187
>Reminder that fishing is by far the most fleshed out profession in WoW with the most amount of content attached to it.
Did you ever do the AQ40 quest? There's a whole bunch of fun fishing lore in there too. And some of the best quest dialogue in the game.
>>315602476
>because I got one of those blue drakes from a 5man in WOTLK
Go FUCK yourself.
>>315602491
Fishing isn't fleshed out at all.
You run your fishbot and go do something else.
ftfy
>>315601596
Sure can, senpai(ily).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGiQjZ1-9FI
>>315602587
I got that drake after actually trying to get it for 3 days about 3 months into cata.
Only saw it once during Wotlk and rolled like a 6
>>315602596
But anon you can't meet new people when you aren't tabbed in and using a bot.
>>315602491
>weekly events on multiple continents
>multiple factions
>about sixty different fishing poles and types of baits
>special fishing gear
>special pheromones that you throw on other people to raise their fishing skill
>mounts designed to let you fish while swimming
>multiple sets of dailies and special rewards built around it like the fish finder
>multiple bosses, spells, mounts and pets you can only get from fishing
>always relevant because its tied into alchemy and cooking
No profession ingame gets as much attention. Its the closest to an actual profession.
>>315602695
Monks fish while Zen flying you furfag nigger.
>>315602841
It was taken before Draenor flying was a thing. Not that I'd have it unlocked anyway.
>>315602841
>No profession ingame gets as much attention. Its the closest to an actual profession.
I'd argue cooking in MoP was pretty damn close.
>All those different styles
>All those ingredients
>Having your own cooking apprentice
>>315602954
>tfw cooking is literally useless in WoD
>get best feasts from garrison
>>315602695
I'll never understand how you can fish in wow and not want to die after the first 10 minutes
But yeah they did flesh out all the fluff around it a whole lot. There's a reason I bothered using a bot especially for it
>>315602954
MoP cooking would come close if it was treated like that in every expansion.
But generally speaking the farm, cooking and fishing had amazing synergy in pandaria.
I loved it.
Doing the dailies for that didnt even feel that bad because you always got a direct reward for it.
The recipes were also massive as fuck so we let the guild donate specific parts and everybody could bring what they wanted. Some couldnt be assed to use the farm so they grinded meat. Others donated the daily token ingredients, and we obviously also had a fishing squad.
>>315602841
The act of fishing isn't fleshed out at all. It's been the same as classic and is nothing like a proper fishing game or even minigame.
It's as basic as positive reinforcement gets. Click on box, recieve reward.
>>315603049
Thats not true. The best foods arent feasts though so many are too lazy to make their own because they are so used to mooching off.
>>315603095
MoP cooking always made me really crave asian food.
>Black Pepper Ribs
>Stirfried Rice Noodles
>Shrimp & Vegetable Dumplings
>Spring Rolls
>>315603140
>click on box,recieve reward
That's most of WoW gameplay right there though
>>315603341
Curse those icons for looking so appetizing
>>315603360
Most of any current MMO's gameplay right now
XIV, GW2, etc etc
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