Explain to me how this game is "well written".
>>315523228
Who are you quoting?
>>315523228
I don't think you have any idea what writing even means in video games.
>>315523228
It isn't.
>>315523228
>Trails in the Sky
>Well written
Pick one.
She's got a point. I can't think of anything.
So...
What's wrong here?
Do you not like the character?
>telling the truth is bad writing
>>315523228
>>315523228
It's not, it's just a decent jrpg. People oversell the series too much.
>>315523228
It was probably written well in its native language
Localized by a depressed sjw on the otherhand
Tits is still great
>>315523228
Maybe you should keep playing instead of dropping such a massive game in the prologue chapter.
She's gay OP that's all.
>>315523228
How is THIS good writing?
>>315523228
prove her wrong OP
>>315524902
Playing through the first one. The Carnelia Books seem like the most evil JRPG missables since the ones in Tales games. Chapter 3's window came and went between two cutscenes and I was dumb enough to miss it even with a list of them next to me. Guess I'll do them in NG+
>>315524902
>>315525107
She's just a rival!
>>315525204
Really?
>>315525160
welcome to TitS
impossible to 100% without a guide
>>315525107
>Everyone thought she was gonna say she loves Estelle.
>>315525204
Alright Anelace keep saying that.
>>315525287
So how badly did they fuck up Anelace's face in the new one? Evo is it called?
>>315525204
That was just a crappy cover when she saw her affections weren't going to be returned.
>>315525371
It's not just Anelace though...
Anelace is best girl.
This happened earlier and I thought it was funny.
Also I'm noticing pretty big framerate issues in some areas. Is that just something everyone lives with or is there a video setting I should adjust? Seems weird for an 11 year old game to have these issues on a modern machine.
>>315525686
I had zero issues except for that one cutscene with the fool.
>>315523381
dont be a pedant, anon
>>315525686
That's because you weren't supposed to see that, as the game was originally made for 4:3 displays. It's only the English releases that support widescreen.
Is the game actually good though?
What does it play like?
Reminder that due to both the editors not being familiar with 3rd while working on SC, and Xseed's penchant for seriously liberal scripts, that they've fucked up a major plot point regarding a character through localising their mannerisms.Renne referred to herself in third person in the Jap script, and this was actually important and the reasons for it are revealed in 3rd.
Is there an undub mod for the battle voices yet? Yes I know it's minor, and I've already bought it, but I need dat JPN audio.
>>315526056
Have you ever played a Grandia game before? It's kind of like that but with light SRPG elements
>Everyone's standards suddenly become the highest possible when it comes to videogame writing.
Why does this happen? This is people claim all vidya writing is shit. People overlook flaws in other mediums, but when games do it, it's suddenly bad.
>>315524776
Game would be 150% if it was about Olivier wandering around trying to fuck with random people.
olivier best boy, will he ever find love
Anelace is just a whore OP
>>315526056
It play like almost any other JRPG.
Though in TiTS you have an SRPG style grid for moving around in. You have crafts that works as your special moves and arts which work as your spells and such.
>>315526056
It plays like a standard JRPG except you can move around SRPG style in fights. You have a limit break type element as well but you can spend smaller amounts of it on character unique abilities in addition to the big move at 100/200%. Most ability learning comes from socketing Quartz (sort of like materia) in specific combinations.
>>315526056
It's eggscelent. The gameplay (combat) is grid-based turn-based RPG but with subtleties like crafts and the way Arts (the equivalent of magic) works keep things interesting and gives the combat extra depth.
Outside of combat it's kind of like every other RPG with town, shops, etc. but the towns feels alive because there's very large amount of NPCs with different lines.
There's also tons of dialogue so the game is kind of 1/3rd Visual Novel and 2/3rd RPG.
>>315525612
joshua a kek
>>315525520
>>315525107
Is she a permanet party member?
How do party work in this one?
>>315525686
>Did 2 playthroughs of FC
>Only today realised his name is Olivier NOT Oliver
Fuck me I'm dumb and blind.
>>315526159
Meh ill forgive it if they acknowledge it
>>315526056
>What does it play like?
Like the writers need to hire and editor.
OVER A BAZILION OF KANJI doesn't mean much if you game world is just another generic mcfantasy.
>>315526587
No. Well kinda you do play as her in certain parts but otherwise she's just a guest party member in this game.
>>315526617
Shit youre right
>>315526587
No, she's only with you during the prologue.
Parties are kind of better than in FC because you have the choice to swap party members this time around.
>>315526327
I don't mind normally, but when your game is verbose as fuck it better have Planescape-tier writing.
>>315525686
I think turning on hardware vertex shading gets rid of the framerate issues.
>>315526587
No. The party configuration is a lot more forgiving than FC though, and you almost always have access to based Olivier.
>>315526690
>>315526193
mega://#!wBxiRDpL!Z48TzFcVm5QfEmwr7VBw7mhHecEGNUbc5cTGzLw3Ewo
Sorry about that.
>>315526382
Doesn't he have his own tsundere childhood friend guard stuck with him?
>>315526056
Disregard >>315526209 it's nothing like Grandia.
Battles take place in a small grid-based field. You have a movement range (in squares) each turn and physical attacks have ranges based on the weapon being used (effectively the character). Spells have unlimited range but take time to cast and can be cancelled by hitting the caster with a cancelling skill before they activate it. Skills have various effects but are mainly stronger physical attacks, and you get CP from dealing and taking damage to use them. At 100 CP you can use a special, which gets stronger up to the max of 200 CP.
Turns are based on speed and turn order can be influenced based on actions taken, and some skills can delay turns. Turns will randomly have special effects added to them, such as restoring 10% HP or gaining 10 STR for whoever acts in a turn, which can be seen in the turn order. Specials become important here because you can use specials to interrupt turn order.
Really though, the battle system isn't very good. Lots of attacks are based around positioning, and yet one of the biggest issues is that in both games you can't move precisely and attack in the same turn; if you want to attack you can only move to where the game makes you go to attack. if you want to move to a specific square, you have to spend your turn to only move. Battles are slow as fuck and there's no skipping or speeding up any animations.
In FC the difficulty is a joke and the only challenging fights you'll ever come across are battle-trapped chests you can access earlier than you're meant to.
SC goes the other way and makes every enemy a damage sponge and many bosses heal themselves as well, so the combat becomes even more of a chore than it was before while still not being particularly difficult.
![[HorribleSubs] Jitsu wa Watashi wa - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.44_[2015.09.29_17.18.46].jpg](https://4chanarchives.com/image/image-404.png "[HorribleSubs] Jitsu wa Watashi wa - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.44_[2015.09.29_17.18.46].jpg")
>>315526690
>>315526916
>>315527031
The movement thing is clearly a trade-off choice for the player. Combat speed can be irritating though, so it's good that in later games they eventually figured out people wanted the option to skip animations.
>>315526670
So far they've ignored anyone mentioning it to them.
>>315527127Yeah you have to copy&paste into address bar.Works for me.
>The prologue
zzzz
>>315525993
>>315525287
Funny how I just read those lines and now that I started the game up thats exactly where I stopped
>>315527202
>The movement thing is clearly a trade-off choice for the player.
I don't get that impression from it. It feels more like an oversight than an intentional choice.
>>315527031
I compare to Grandia because of the turn/skill cancelling
Proper punctuation.
>>315524776
>that mouth
QUALITY
>>315527228
Probably because third-person speech in English is incredibly weird looking and never occurs naturally. You can get away with that in Japanese because it doesn't flag that anything unusual is happening, but normal English speakers will immediately assume something is up.
>>315527365
There are dozens of games that do that.
What made Grandia unique was the ATB representation and the need to time your attacks based on the animations and distance. Grandia also had a significantly larger focus on it than most games, given that your two basic attacks are a stronger normal attack or a weaker cancelling attack.
>>315527352
They wouldn't make movement cost significantly less time than movement and action if it weren't meant to be a choice.
>>315527512
>Probably because third-person speech in English is incredibly weird looking and never occurs naturally. You can get away with that in Japanese because it doesn't flag that anything unusual is happening
Come on now, just because it shows up in anime doesn't mean it's anywhere near close to natural. You should be aware of this.
>but normal English speakers will immediately assume something is up.
Not really, since it's a common enough thing to see in fiction, and particularly in Japanese fiction.
Either way, "it seems unnatural" is a poor excuse for changing a mannerism when it's clear that they had no idea it was relevant to the plot.
I wasn't ready for when Fateful Confrontation kicked in for the first time.What a nice fucking tune.
>>315527841
I didn't say it was natural, I said that it isn't a flag for weirdness. Japanese players will not see third-person speech coming from a little girl and think something weird is going on because that's a trope they have to put up with all the time.
It rarely happens in English works unless the person doing it is meant to be noticeably weird, so yes, people will notice it. I'd like you to list some native English material featuring third-person speech where the audience isn't meant to pay attention to the fact that it's happening at all but the overall work is still supposed to have naturalish dialogue.
Why is her voice so bad in japanese
>>315528359
>It rarely happens in English works unless the person doing it is meant to be noticeably weird, so yes, people will notice it.
I don't think you quite understand. There's nothing wrong with the players thinking "well her way of talking is weird" or "this character is weird". Characters talking in third person are usually supposed to invoke such a reaction to begin with. Simply thinking that the character is weird is not going to reveal what their motivations for acting that way are, but stopping the character from acting weird because you don't want them to come across as weird when they do have reasons for acting that way is Xseed's fuckup.
>>315528661
Uh, there is something wrong with it if it's meant to be concealing a surprise but just causes the player to wonder when the tweest is coming.
>chapter 1
>finished all quests, check board, orbal and equip, go to academy
>chapter 2
>yo man, you missed Sunday school, say goodbye to your complete BP run
I hated this shit in FC. Good to know it is back.
>>315528971
Completionism, huh? Hope you didn't forget to grab that gambler book chapter in the prologue, Anon.
>>315528971
I did the same. It's the shameful mark on my otherwise good record.
Not gonna sweat it though.
>>315528809
There's something much more wrong with it when removing the character's weirdness is breaking the twist entirely, because the twist simply does not work if the character refers to themselves in first person.
Again, this is a fuckup stemming from the editors not being familiar with 3rd.
>>315528971
>>315529190
WHERE ARE THE FUNNY CHEST MESSAGES XSEED
YOU N I G G E R S
>>315529169
Uh huh. Go ahead and describe how it works in a Japanese context. I have the feeling you're overstating it and misrepresenting the semiotics involved.
>>315529106
Nah. Fuck it. I will do second run with walkthrough.
>>315529318
http://steamcommunity.com/app/251290/discussions/0/490124466475884958/#p1
It's discussed in that thread.
>>315528052
Favorite tune of 2015 for me, I love how it samples the enforcers theme
Just brilliant
>>315528971
>Did the photo quest where you had to take a picture of the top of the tower
>Did it early
>Was suppose to wait to when Dorthy joins as an NPC so she can take a better shot for max BP.
Well shit.
>>315528052
The entire OST of both FC and SC kick ass, really.
>>315529991
This happened to me too.
Going to just do a NG+ run with a walkthrough.
>>315526848
>better have Planescape-tier writing.
Your mom jokes and dull as fuck pages of shit about dusters? I'll pass.
>>315529991
Oh man that is such bullshit. I mean, I don't mind not having 100% BP but I honestly doubt this game was meant to be 100%'d without help.
>>315529747
That contains nothing I didn't already know and only confirms that it wouldn't have worked in English. The simple fact is that third-person speech isn't a huge red flag to Japanese people like it is to English speakers. It virtually gives awaythat there's dissociation at workif the character isn't being played for laughs.
>>315530364
>if the character isn't being played for laughs.
Which is kind of exactly how it works, and why the reveal is effective.
>>315523228
>thinking gooks can write
They write like 8 year olds. If you took an eight year old and made him write something. You couldn't tell it apart from something a gook wrote in a game/show.
>>315523228
no game is ever well writen, people just like to pretend some do in order to shit on other games saying that the writing sucks.
those people should just go read books instead, playing video games for the story and complaining about how they are writen is stupid. its a video game.
>>315530578
Yeah, they should go read 50 shades of grey and the girl who kicked the hornet's nest because books are amazing!
I swear the idiots who say shit like this don't read.
>>315530561
I don't know about that. In Japanese it's used as a cuteness/silliness marker, which is why it works for her there and why the reveal that it was never a marker at all is effective. When it happens in English works it still represents comedy but tends more towards "this person is crazy, which is funny." The problem is that you end up pointing toward the very thing the dialogue is supposed to be concealing.
>>315531252
In the end I think this is just a matter of where we stand on localisation. I don't think that it warrants a change because I don't think that they should be localising the mannerisms for the west in the first place, and rather think that people should be expected to understand the meanings of the mannerisms instead.
Clearly though Xseed are far on the opposite end of that ideal.
>playing games translated
>complaining about writing
one job
>>315531487
I agree. I could probably put up with her speaking third-person in English too because I'm used to it from my Chinese cartoons, but I'm not upset that they chose a more mainstream approach to rendering her lines.
https://youtu.be/6YLJp-g0duk?t=37
>0:37
I always stop when that part plays
>>315530249
It's impossible without a guide.
>>315528390
>not liking "ehehe, yatta!"
I'm glad I'm not a cynical bastard like you.
FLAC OST WHERE?!
>>315533536
She sounds like an old japanese woman dude
>>315528971
>Have to visit Wolf Fortress in ch2
>at no point in the game are you told that you're supposed to go the opposite way and talk to miner at Kaldia Tunnel for +3 extra BP
fuck you Falcom
>>315533594
No she doesn't, go get your ears checked
>>315528390
>>315533594
I never bothered undubbing FC but in SC Estelle and Analace sounded like raspy old hags and I couldn't stand it anymore. God damn their Jap voices are so much better.
>>315533780
Well she is literally voice by an old womanby japanese standards
>play FC
>everyone says Agate is hot shit because of CP spam
>literaly only 50 cp per craft use
>do damage every 3 turns since I want to use the s-break
>requires me to heal him every other turn
>even fucking estelle is outdamaging this fuck
>play sc
>agate now gets 150cp co-
>at the cost of 75% of his hp
>its not even max cp
>dies to a fucking papercut afterwards
>theres a character that can restore 40 cp for everyone
On top of all this agate is slow as molasses and has paper thin magic defense. Why in the fuck do people think this character is good anyway? Dps-wise I can get more out of just buffing someone or even agate himself and spamming attack, crafts or magic and using the cp refresh accessory + Kevin.
>>315533567
>flacebo
>>315533986
>Estelle
Never really thought that about her voice.
But hey.
>>315534169
...Who's that?
>>315534061
>dies to a fucking papercut afterwards
>afterwards
Well. There's the problem.
>>315534169
>>315533636
>get a gather ingredients quest at the start of a chapter
>you're most likely going to have all of them right away
>you have to wait until 3/4 into the chapter and talk to a guy to get extra bp
it makes sense once you do it but it's still bullshit
>>315533990
I liked how in Code Geass the Chinese loli was voiced by a 6 year old girl, and the Japanese loli was voiced by a 60 year old woman.
The Japanese loli sounded younger.
>>315534279
Theres nothing you can do about that anon.
If you wanna cp spam then you need a dedicated healing faggot and a dedicated earthwall faggot on his ass. On top of that its not even doing full 200cp damage. How is this an efficient way of killing things? Its more like an incredibly slow way to go about killing things.
>>315523228
She's right, cute girls are the best thing in the universe.
>>315534228
That's door-kun
>>315534169
He kinda looks like Legato now.
>>315534663
I don't think so...
>>315523228
>anime japan shit
>well written
yeah...no
>>315534663
>tfw you don't own a purse
>>315534169
>make actual not-shit design with good personality and not edgy as fuck character who is meant to be a dark and mysterious fuccboi
>turns into that abomination of a design in ao
What happened
>>315534504
Nigga, You're doing it wrong
>start encounter
>wild rage II
>FINARU BREAKU
>get your well earned Sepith
>use Teara
>repeat until you max your shit
There you go.
>>315535095
But that's a terrible design.
>>315535116
I was mostly talking about fc where he only has the 50cp one and boss fights in sc's case but...
>have to go into menu after every encounter
Holy fuck no thanks. I wish I had gone with Schera for Aerial spam.
>>315535181
What's a good design then?
Godamnitch4. I was not ready for the feels
Incest doujins where?
>>315535514
>>315535095
His SC design is pretty bad man, come on. He'd fit right in with the .hack cast.
>>315535674
You're saying this is better
>>315535826
Much, much better.
>choosing Schera over Agate.
>>315535826
He should either tuck his shirt in or take off that useless vest.It's been way too long since I played this game.
Meh, somehow mustered up the energy to complete the main story in 44 hours, don't think I have the stamina to play the second part. The game has quite a pleasant aesthetic but it's just boring, plus the battle system is flawed.
>>315535450
Not one that looks like How to Draw Anime.
>>315535989
Her only good point is AT Advance.
>>315536094
You seriously think that
>>315534169
Looks better
>>315535989
>depriving yourself of Olivier/Agate
No one actually does this.
>>315536126
And having a good element for AOE arts.
Agate's S-break spam is literally only good for killing shining poms.
>>315535826
>Normal shoes
>Simple shirt, trousers, and vest
>One single belt around his waist
>Straps holding his arm guards in place
Vest and pointy shirt are a bit iffy but otherwise a nice looking and practical design. 7/10
>>315535095
Tank top, trousers, and boots
>Three belts on top, two belts on trousers
>One belt on top is holding his pouches so that's okay at least, but the trousers belts aren't doing anything
>Straps on trousers doing nothing
>Straps on boots doing nothing
>Bandages on wrists to hide where he's cutting himself
>Huge scarf to hide his angst
Throws most practicality out the window, looks like something an emo kid doodled in his sketchbook in class. 4/10
>>315535989
I did.
>>315534061
>>315534504
Earth Wall, fool
>>315536407
Kevin is better than Olivier.
Anyone is better than Agate, except Tita and Estelle I guess.
>>315535989
Agate is a faggot.
>>315536407
Wait, I don't get Olivier now? God fucking damn it. Why is a character I love always paired up with a character I can't stand?
>>315536557
>i don't know how to read
>>315536620
No, you still get him, but you miss him picking on Agate.
>>315536620
>Wait, I don't get Olivier now?
He's gonna be in your party no matter what.
>>315536495
>cutting himself
bait
I am not even seeing the belts you are exaggerating on, I only see one.
So does the western PC version have the Evolution extras? I couldn't find a concrete answer on this.
>>315536674
>>315536759
I can deal with that then.
>>315536546
>have someone using earth wall every turn
Nope.
>>315536778
Well, I should also ask if the Evolution changes/extras are really worth it or not.
>>315536407
Olivier/Schere is better.
>>315536778
Maybe you should specify what those are.
>>315536778
Anon just what do you mean?
Stuff like the new art? The gameplay changes?
>>315536948
>Making Olivier put up with a strong independent woman he utterly outclasses on every level
Nope.
>>315536761
>bait
It's called a joke, anon.
>I am not even seeing the belts you are exaggerating on, I only see one.
>>315536890
Isn't it just art, gameplay changes and I suppose rebalancing?
>>315537093
How are any of those things belts? I'm pretty sure they are just straps, which are pretty common to see people using when they exercise.
>>315537021
The gameplay changes. I'm not sure of what exactly was changed, I've never played any of these games but I'm looking to get into them. Apparently Evolution added in new artes, new monsters, and some other stuff. I'm asking because I'm trying to decide which version to get. I was just going to either get the Japanese PC or PS3 version, but it sounds like the English PC versions adds some new stuff in. If that's the case I might just get it so long as I can patch in Japanese text. If I had a Vita I'd probably just get Evolution, but I don't.
>>315536778
Considering the Evo version of SC isn't even out yet, I'm going to hazard a guess and say no.
>>315537203
That's why I called some belts and the rest straps. And only the one belt around his waist is doing anything. Pay attention, anon.
>>315537257
Oh I'm sorry, I meant FC. Really should have specified.
>>315537093
>design has to be practical for it to be cool.
Is Schera's design bad too? Maybe Zanes design is also awful since he'a carrying around a bottle. What about Tita? She has those giant dangling things in her back. Kek princess wears a school uniform, who the fuck uses a school uniform in battle?
>>315537281
No anon you misunderstood. I meant he literaly only has one belt which IS doing something and the rest are just straps, and not even to an exaggerated amount.
>>315537467
It doesn't have to be practical to be cool, but it certainly helps.
The biggest problem I have with his SC design is the stupid looking scarf and bandages, anyway. He went from a simple and practical design to Falcom's best attempt at OW THE EDGE.
>>315537565
It's a pretty exaggerated amount when none of the straps are doing anything, and his FC design had four straps that were all serving a purpose.
>>315537565
But what are those straps doing? Holding his ribcage together? Providing diagonal thigh support for his gammy right leg? Covering the "everyone loves assymetry" hole in his other trouser leg? Decorating a part of the boot that in no way requires straps?
>>315537097
Full VA and ost redone as well
>>315537743
>ow the edge
For starters theres a good reason for him to be edgy, and considering Fc I think he's what you call edgy done right.
I don't think his dialogue is edgy at all in SC especially since he's treating the capuas as allies.
>>315537927
>New Art
Ughhhhhh
How bad are the new designs?
>>315538057
>>315537927
The Evo really needs to step it up for character expressions.
>>315537927
what did they do to anal ace!?
>>315537940
>For starters theres a good reason for him to be edgy
I know, that but it doesn't mean the design doesn't look dumb.
>I don't think his dialogue is edgy at all in SC especially since he's treating the capuas as allies.
I'd disagree there, he was being pretty damn edgy the first time he showed up. Pic related made me furrow my brow.
>>315538057
Some are okay, some are pretty fucking bad like Estelle and Anelace.
>>315538203
This artist is completey incapable of drawing musculature or different faces for that matter.
>>315538417
Here's some more.
>>315538374
>trying to be poetic silver tongue faggot
He LITERALLY does this all the fucking time in Fc.
>>315523228
The aforementioned quote is both poetic and true, philistine.
Do you not know that truth is beauty?
>>315538387
I don't look right at all. What have they done to me?
>>315523563
I could beat a cute girl.
>>315538387
This is supposed to be Cassius? Why is this guy so incapable of drawing facial hair or older characters in general?
>>315538624
>comparing it to naruto
Please leave
>>315538528
At least he was dressed better back then. And everyone else would take the piss out of him for it instead of it being treated seriously.
>>315538825
He's supposed to be threatning now.
>>315538919
>supposed to be
>>315538363
It ain't right.
>>315538650
Looks like the same amount of facial hair as the old version of cassius.
>>315538773
The main plot is Naruto though. The similarities are fucking uncanny.
>>315538997
That is not even a little bit okay.
>>315539149
No wait, here's her sad face.
so does bracer rank go all the way up to A in this game?
>>315539303
A+
Good luck with that by the way.
>>315539303
If you don't miss any BP, I believe you can hit A+.
>>315539415
I need a missables guide already. Already fucked up the Anton achievement somehow even though I talked to everyone I could find in the prologue and chapter 1.
Currently almost done with chapter 2 and think I will hit max BP, but a long way to go.
>>315539435
>Estelle surpasses Schera, Agate and Zane
Damn
>>315538997
>>315539096
I can't see much of a difference.
3rd when?
Ao when?
Zero when?
>>315539736
>literally $3
I will never understand how people can be this stingy with money.
Well good luck getting the game anon.
>>315540041
Better start praying for miracles.
So, I've beaten chapter 2 of SC and I kinda get that Agate and Olivier are amazing. Are there any other people I should look out for that are anywhere near as good?
>>315540246
Or studying 日本語, that'd net better results.
>>315540041
Hope you're willing to wait 10 years for 3rd.
>>315540041
Priest Adventures and Lloyds harem never
Explain to me in what way is your picture proof that the game is not "well written".
>>315538057
Really bad
>>315540983
Right is superior.
>>315541157
Objectively shit opinion.
>>315540916
It feels like according to him
not "serious" and "mature" dialog = bad writing
common tropes = bad writing
I don't like it = bad writing
>>315541157
The best thing about the right is that it's got more definition. The left has far more character to it.
>>315541157
>4 face options instead of 30
>superior
This is why we can't have nice things anymore
>>315541157
>no shading
>less detail
>no smug
Nah right is bad.
>>315541157
Is that so?
>>315540983
Why did they think cutting it down to four facial expressions was a good idea?
>>315541393
Even that is null with Steam and PS3 version having HD portraits
>>315541616
How does Estelle sleep at night know a guy makes for a prettier girl the she does?
>>315541697
She has more than four, but they all are worse than the originals.
>>315539096
ACTUALLY it's more like Naruto is SC since SC came out one year before Shippuden.
>>315542036
By wearing the pants in the relationship.
>>315542036
Who knows maybe she's jealous.
>>315540041
>3rd
XSeed will consider it in a year or two. Localizing it is another matter.
>Zero
>Ao
Not until there's a good PC port
>>315539572
Check Steam guides or use this.
http://silver-intention.com/Game/ED6_SC/quest.php
>>315542467
XSeed has been "considering" 3rd for a while. Of course it would take years to localize it.
>>315536847
>choose Schera
>Olivier constantly getting shut down
>choose Agate
>Olivier gets to have all his fun
Choose Agate for Olivier's sake, faggot
>>315542915
I thought tc was shorter than sc and about as ling as fc
>>315525160
>Chapter 3's window
Was it the one at the fort gate with the grumpy general? I remember yelling "fuck you!" at my screen, when I learned about it shortly afterwards.
>>315543063
It is shorter, but the "side content" in 3rd are hardly "side content". 3rd has pretty much no NPC dialogue and all of that "side content" dialogue comes from memory doors.
>>315538387
>giving Cassius a bad teenage scumstash
>>315523228
>anal ace
Already my favorite character.
Can someone post Alba's portrait?
>>315542036peggingsaid guy
>>315526056
It's probably the most mediocre JRPG I've ever played.
>>315542915
They probably won't hire a suicidal drama faggot again, so it probably wouldn't take as long
>>315543582
She was made for it
>>315543582
>>315544112
>>315540583
Kevin is broken
>>315542036
The purple-haired one is a guy? This is why I just don't care what I fap to anymore when it's 2D.
I'm having fun so far, just got done with chapter 1, and holy hell, i loved the enforcers theme song. But what the fuck happened to Kloe's stats? I remenber her being way better than this in FC, her cast damage, HP and attack are pure shit, and of course, she's still stuck with the 3 forced water slots. Does she get better? Her craft to lower defense and attack from enemies seems to have taken a nerf too, before it was godlike.
I do miss the silly empty chest messages tough. I heard they plan on adding then later because they didn't have time for it?
>>315541616
Dosn't his hair look a little too purple there? Isn't he supposed to be a black haired guy?
>>315545054
No, Kloze is shit. Kevin best healer
>>315545175
Evo art makes his hair a bit more purple.
>>315545054
She never gets better. Kevin outclasses her in every aspect.
>>315545182
Why did they nerf her?
>>315545686
Do I look like falcom to you anon
>>315523228
game is gayer than fuck. Most of you guys only like contrarian bullshit. There's a reason the Trails series doesn't sell here, it's because the games fucking suck
So hey, this is just a question because i'm curious, but, i heard thatOuroboros makes appearances even after the third trails in the sky. Are they the defined main antagonist to the entire series,or does it change later?
>>315545858
I guess thats why it's selling well then, because the games are good ;)
>>315546102
yes they are.
>>315545686
To discourage you from taking the country's heir apparent into battles with madmen that give even Cassius a run for his money
>>315546102
Ouroboros is basically the main antagonist of the series, or involved with the antagonist in every game in some way.
>>315546373
>He doesn't take the country's heir into battle against almost superhuman freaks of nature.
>>315545686
Because nobody wanted to use the boring kek queen.
So I'm at ch5 and I've only found 3 Gambling Jack books with the last being the one Oliver gave me back in chapter 2.
Where the fuck are they hiding them really? It's not like I've been neglecting exploration. I've pretty much went anywhere before progressing the main quest and went everywhere again at the end of every chapter and talked to everyone. I'd expect to at least get one more at this point.
>>315546851
Fuck you, I liked using her in FC.
>>315545054
I wait for the moment for it to play every chapter now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z07WdBYBEe0
>>315546851
>kek queen
That meme really needs to die in a fire.
