So why did they make Locke the main character of Halo and sideline Chief and why was this a good idea?
343 is fucking retarded. After all that advertising bullshit and trying to push Locke as the new Master Chief, people STILL don't give a fuck about Locke.
Nobody cares about him.
They did it so that you idiots will buy Halo 6 when it's announced to have a full master chief campaign.
because 343 is retarded
like beyond retarded, the game is fucking shit don't buy it.
>>315365545
Because Chief literally becomes the demons in Halo 5.
>yfw Locke will be reduced to 2 speaking lines in the entire game in Halo 6, just like Sarah Palmer in Halo 5
Locke is as exciting as a wheat donut
>>315366051
That is going to happen to Chief.
Frankie said that they want to move on from Chief and focus on other characters
No matter how they portray Chief, the fans will side with him till the end. Why? Because Chief has bee the main Protagonist of the Halo series since the first game, over a decade ago. 343 doesn't know how to advertise well, and they obviously don't know their fans. Taking away splitscreen. They're not bad game-devs though, although much unlike previous Halo titles, the campaign isn't bad, and neither is the multiplayer. I'm wondering where the good writers wen't after Reach.
>>315366320
>How to get people to stop buying your games 101 with 343i
>>315366371
Joe Staten is actually back at Microsoft right now working on something
>Destiny was so bad he went back to Microsoft
Fucking Neo-Bungie
>>315365545
So why are you a feelshitting faggot?
>>315366320
>they want to move on from Chief and focus on other characters
they should bring back Bucks team. make them all new Spartans and just use them. shame Noble Team died in Reach.
>>315366320
Sure, thats what they said pre-launch of Halo 5.
And then the whole fucking campaign came tumbling down and everyone and their mother is calling out 343 on their bullshit
Pretty Sure 343 knows now that you don't mess with the Chief
>>315366320
The only way that's going to work is if the characters in question are interesting.
Tom and Lucy could work
Naomi/K-5 could work
none of that SIV bullshit
>>315366320
All my normie friends have been complaining that Halo 5 sucks because the story is full retard, and they want to play THE MAIN MAN instead of "some random ass black guy".
It seems even the normalfags aren't a fan of the overall COD-ness.
they made master chief talk to much
I don't think 343 knows how to capture the "spirit" of halo.
Halo is a theological story, master chief is the depiction of a militant messiah, he becomes perfect, cold machine like, in order to preserve the more fragile things in other people.
he is distant, because he is in a league of his own
if 343 just forget or over look the fact that halo is about religion and theological fables told through a scifi context their stories will just get more and more cookie cutter and lack any substance to them
>>315366320
> HALO
> YOU PLAY AS A BAD ASS SPARTAN FUCKING SHIT UP
> 343 HALO
> YOU PLAY AS A PUSSY WITH GROUND POUND LIKE SOME FUCKING MARIO GAME
>>315365545
This is literally what kept me from buying an Xbone and Halo 5. Fuck 343.
>>315366910
fuck off with your "hurr why is chief talking? chief is actually da player!! bungie said so!!"
Chief is Master Chief. He has his own past, his own history, his own beliefs. He is his own character. He can talk however much he wants.
He is not You [The player], so shut the fuck up Bungie with your bullshit
>>315367146
>343 lead designer detected
>>315367146
I see you Frankie
>>315367146
But it was Frank who said that Chief was supposed to be "an empty vessel in which you pour all your heroism."
Were people this mad about Chief getting sidelined for based Arby in 2? I can't remember
Locke seems kinda bland from what i've seen of him
>>315367228
No I'm just fucking sick of all these posts about people saying he talks too much.
Yes, Bungie originally said that Chief was the embodiment of the player character. But when you read the trillions of halo books out right now, you see Chief as his own character. Fuck man, after reading "The Fall of Reach" I don't see how anyone can Self insert as Master Chief
>>315367368
people were mainly mad about 2 not having an actual ending.
>>315367368
No.
The Arby missions were fun as shit. And the split was more even, and in MC's favour.
>>315366051
Dude that is one of the suits from dead space, I fucking know it is.
>>315367368
People were mad at the ending. BUngie wanted to make the game fuckhuge but they couldn't with the time and money they had, mostly hardware though.
>>315367368
Arby is essentially Master Chief of the Elites
Locke is "that kid" at school wearing an overpriced halloween costume that his parents bought him and making ebin maymay jokes while he slices the air, making spew spew sound effects, waving his shitty cardboard sword in front of everyone
>>315365545
Because it's headed by a girl and she wants to introduce diversity to the Halo community by forcing Locke and making sure that every second Spartan is a girl (which is ridiculous). Let's not forget her self-insert, Palmer.
>I'm impressed. Arbiter has females in his ranks. War has traditionally been a male's job on Sangehlios.
Thanks for the non sequitur, Vale. But can you stop pushing your agenda while we're in the middle of a war?
>>315368050Halo 4's saggy tits Cortana was the best
prove me wrongyou can't
>>315365545
Fuck Locke. He didn't even have a good character at FUCKING all. What was that shit about Locke even getting the upperhand on the chief for a second in their fight? Bullshit.
>>315367368
Some people got pretty mad about it, mainly because it came out of nowhere.
>>315367436
Bungie originally wanted to kill the MC at the end of Halo 3, which is why they put that line in "If only it were so easy". They didn't like the MC becoming his own character and wanted to go back to having you play as a nameless soldier which is what they did for ODST and Reach.
>>315367536
>playing Halo 2 Anniversary
>that mission where you chase the heretic through a station in a Banshee
>this shit starts playing
https://youtu.be/lviYhyN_VKI
>mfw
>>315368050
Tbh senpai, I've always found the fact that Cortana was naked kinda weird. If you were to create an AI based on your mind, would you think "It needs to be naked,". Why would Halsey design her like that?
>>315368050
>I'm impressed. Arbiter has females in his ranks. War has traditionally been a male's job on Sangehlios.
That line actually makes zero fucking sense.
Why would she be impressed. She knows Sangheili culture.
Female warriors aren't that rare on ships. A majority of them are, sure, but that would show desperation, not something to be proud of.
They literally defend the keeps. If your keeps aren't defended then you're fucked in a civil war.
>>315368254
That's because that's how actual boobs work, also she looks the most like a naked woman. The part I really like tho I her thighs.
>>315365545
So in Halo 6 there can be a campaign mission where you play as Locke tailspinning in a pelican after some Forerunner Hiroshima shit goes down, only to crawl out and witness him take his last breath. Then you play as Buck who's being lead by Chief as they've been disavowed. Spoilers, Buck dies in Halo 7, You finish the game as Chief who hangs Cortana. He then takes off his helmet and lights a cigar. Surprise, Chief is Johnson, brought back to life by Forerunner technology, since they share a common goal of bringing down Cortana. But in Halo 8, you learn that the Forerunners can't be trusted. So you steal the ship they give you and fuck off to fight the ancient evil making it's way to earth. Halo 9's ending boils down to choosing between joining red team, blue team, or lonewolfing it (the green option cause hurr chief's armor) and sacrificing yourself. But on legendary you get a 4 millisecond post credits scene of Johnson Chief inhaling. Romance options with Fred mixed in here or there.
>>315368254
I don't even understand why people like super firm tits. They look like big tumors rather than milk factories made of fat.
>>315368294
It's like you're flying an elevator in Persona 3 desu.
At least the arbiter turned out to be kind cool. Locke sucked ass.
I hope 343 is getting blowback.
I'm more disappointed that Best Girl and the rest of Blue Team had the personality of cardboard boxes
Like come the fuck on, you FINALLY put Blue Team in, and literally zero character development happens
>>315368606
The story had all the charm of wet cardboard.
>>315368606
Also, who the fuck is blue team?
Lore me up.
>>315366610
romeo and mickey are already spartans and rookie is dead pal
>>315368746
Fuck you
just fuck you
>>315368746
The remaining members of the original Spartan-II.
>>315368752
>rookie is dead
what?
>>315368746
Chief's bros.
>>315368792
Fuck me because I don't read the books? I did when I was in 7th grade. When there were three.
>>315368874
Shot by some no name in a book in some no name fight.
>>315368894
>>315368874
I thought they all died except that one chick that Halsey took.
>>315368908
Blue Team is the entirety of the first book you retard
>>315365940
This is probably the real answer. They will also bring back split screen.
>>315368967
No. The rest of blue team was doing shit on earth before going to Onyx after Halsey's hail.
>>315368681
343i did work on something but they had to rush the fuck out of it, they decided campaign was the least important aspect...and they were right. I am assuming that until they get bigger or MS manages 343i like Activision handles COD with different teams working together on a single product they will be put more effort into multiplayer and have as little story as possible, but have most of it be as significant as possible, you know, the fighting game approach.
That said without Martin O'Donnell shit just aint halo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5A15Dy3D-I
This is the only real good song form Halo 4.
>>315369051
I'm convinced 343 wanted to see how far they could fuck up with halo and still be "ok" with Halo 5
fuck them
>>315368352
She didn't design her like that. AIs take on their own shapes. Cortana looks like Halsey when she was in college.
Killing off chief to so they can have a new meme man for their shit company
Fuck off 343
>>315368927
fucking lame. looked it up, he dies, Dutch retires and Mickey betrays Buck and Romeo. so they kill off Rookie and got rid of one of the better members of that team. just fucking lame.
>>315369070
Kinda doesn't make much sense that we haven't heard from any of them in the other Halo entries if they were still alive.
>they bring back splitscreen
>everyone shits their pants over a feature that was LITERALLY in ps1 / n64 era
you know it to be true
>>315369153
So...she was a whore in college?
>>315368967
nope mickey got arrested and romeo is on some other random team
>>315369242
It's better to just think that 343's lore is about as canon as Star War's Extended Universe
>>315369317
that anon was talking about Blue team not the ODSTs.
>>315369259
They have been active in the books since Fall of Reach m8
>>315369153
Did she not wear clothes in college?
>>315369305
>was
She's still a whore m8.
>goes on a roadtrip with random dude to check out a kid
>gets preggo
Whore with a capital W.
>>315369153
DaYuM son
Halsey a lewd
>>315369412
That's cool shit, but wouldn't we have seen them help chief in the CRAZY FUCKING WAR from halo1-3 that chief had to win all by himself.
>>315367368
most people in these threads dont remember but yes
everyone fucking hated playing as arby but i personally didnt find it that big of a deal. Campaigns dont interest me
>>315369495
No wonder Cortana is always nude.
>>315369525
Chief was the only non-wounded Spartan on PoA in H:CE.
H2 barely takes place on earth. Chief literally comes back and leaves straight away.
I think Ghosts of Onyx takes place before H3, so no blue team for H3 either.
>>315368606
>Linda
>Best girl
Try again
>>315369659
The only ones I've read are "Fall of Reach", "The Flood", and "First Strike." I thought at the end of first strike there is only the chief and one other spartan II alive. I guess that's wrong.
>>315369824
If I recall, the other Spartans and Halsey were held up in some underground ONI facility on Reach. Chief and Linda went back after the events of Halo:CE and got them out.
>>315368792
>>315368976
A frog poster is an angry sperg, upset that someone didn't read all the Halo books that he did.
Why are all frog posters such socially incompetent, autistic filth incapable of comprehending or accepting that other people will have different experiences than them?
>>315369824
First Strike had the remaining II's thinned out even further, Whitcomb was a badass though and the ONI spook was alright in the end.
And like this anon said >>315369659
Chief is just on Cairo Station for the award ceremony he was probably going to right back to his team then suddenly Regret shows up with a fleet.
>>315369824
...aren't blue team invovled in the majority of First Strike?
>>315369989
Nigger that's solved in First Strike.
Arbiter needs his own game
His Halo 2 missions were actually the best parts
>>315370091
>>315369989
Shit. This lore got confusing as fuck.
I always thought Linda and the chief were the last two SPIIs left
People liked Johnson more than Locke because because Johnson is only a sidekick, not a main character. Folks cannot take it when black people are allowed to be MC. But it is alright if black people play second fiddle as sidekick.
Likewise folks went mad because they improved Cortana to make her more closely resemble proper real life woman body proportions instead of that which teenage boys fantasize over.
The truth is gamers cannot handle diversity and want to retreat into a world where they can enjoy their oppressive privileges. Anything else offends their sensibilities.
>>315369550
Arby grew on people and ended up being one of the series favorites
I don't see this happening with Locke
>>315370292
Always about race with some people. If locke was a good character people would like him
>>315370270
I mean even outside of blue team there's possibly at least 4 other SIIs alive.
I don't know how the fuck Naomi survived the war, but 343 kinda pulled her out of their ass.
There's also Grey Team, but who knows where the fuck they are.
What's even happening in this series now. Are Master Chief and Cortana the demons?
>>315370292
>>315370270
Nah, just a lot more of the spartans die in the book.
>>315370475
Cortana is evil and is beginning the Third Impact
cheif has to stop her and stuff
>>315370292
>Johnson
>not a main character
laughingAIsluts.jpg
>>315370475
Chief will have to defeat cortana in 6. I guarantee it.
>>315366051
Or sorta like how the Arbiter was basically the main character of Halo 2 (even though not be the degree of Locke in Halo 5) but was relegated to a side-character in Halo 3.
>>315370529
Well then how are some of the books canon and others aren't. It makes no sense.
>>315370574
>Implying Locke doesn't save the day
The real reason Blue Team and by extension Chief was sidelined was because they were too white. Is it plausible in Halo where Earth is united under one government that white people should be so disproportionately represented? Thats why Osiris was needed to balance things out.
In fact Chief is the typical heteronormative white man and he needed to be sidelined because the industry has sufficient straight white male heroes as it is. We need more minorities like Locke.
>>315370292
I can guaran fukken tee you if they used space magic to bring back Johnson and made him a spartan people would have hailed it as the next coming of Christ.
Locke is a shitty character from a shitty TV series. His big black diversity cannot change this no matter how hard you lust for it.
>>315370848
>and made him a spartan
About that...
>>315367368
Yes, people were mad b/c most of Arby's missions were shit, while Chief had the better missions. The ending didn't help. Also Arbiter had an incredible character & story but his missions sucked.
>>315370640
Only The Flood wasn't canon when Bungie was still in charge and the book was a bit of a mess anyways.
I don't really know what's canon with post 343 retcons and where the flying fuck is Cole? He should be leading the insurrection, or just having a vacation in UNSC abandoned space the man was quite stressed out.
I'm not sure why Halo Wars is canon now since 343 initially put flood into the Spirit of Fire anyways.
>>315370848
Johnson's already a Spartan Anon.
>>315368513
Women around the world spend billions of having their tits look firm and perky. If not from surgery then from bras and clothing.
Botched titjobs are the worst though. So is anything above D size.
>>315366102
all donuts are made from wheat dipshit
>>315370939
So the lore is just a fucking mess?
>>315365545
>why was this a good idea
It wasn't you fucking mong. Why did you make this thread?
>>315370939
>don't really know what's canon with post 343 retcons
So far I can't think of anything 343 has retconned.
Bungie on the other hand retconned the ending of Fall of Reach and some of the beginning of First Strike with Halo Reach.
>>315368752
Mickey isn't a Spartan.
He's a terrorist now because of Rookie's death.
>>315370925
>>315370996
Fine made him the donut steal MC for Halo 5
>>315370848
>and made him a spartan
Nigger, Johnson is already a Spartan.
He's OG Spartan too, SI.
>>315371109
This is why I consider Halo: Reach non-canon.
>>315371090
Pretty much: ancient humanity had a galactic empire, Forerunners are... I'm not sure what to think of them anymore, the flood is no longer an ancient parasite that has consumed an unimaginable amount of galaxies anymore they're just a bio-weapon now.
Whatever happened to the main flood force that was going to hit our galaxy in a couple million years?
>>315371109
Eh, that's what happens when you have contracts gotta stand by them.
>>315368380
She's impressed because they're not mired in meaningless tradition, and both genders can now do either role?
>>315368908
fucking kids, I was already away at war when I played halo ce (on pc)
>>315367132
> YOU PLAY AS A PUSSY WITH GROUND POUND LIKE SOME FUCKING MARIO GAME
Are you 12? Nobody thinks Mario's a pussy.
>>315370292
>Folks cannot take it when black people are allowed to be MC
If this was true GTA:SA wouldn't be so popular. If the character is shit, no one is going to like them.
At this point we should be comparing it to MGS2
>>315371427
The flood still is a parasite, they just have a backstory now. The precursors disintegrated themselves into dust containing incomplete and broken DNA in a last ditch revenge plot against the Forerunners, they're practically super duper space cancer.
>>315372441
...I really miss the old theories instead of this, didn't the precursors make/guide the forerunners or is that out the window too?
>>315372830
They made the Forerunners and the Humans.
Possibly also the Shan'Shayum.
Infodumping
The good:
>Promethean knights
They now have sweetspots on their armor, which makes them more fun to fight. If you lack the firepower, you're forced to sweetspot them to make your shots count, otherwise you can blast them for a faster kill.
>Promethean soldiers
They're actually alright. Their teleportation ability can come off as annoying though. Also with their existence Promethean knights now have a reason to be uncommon enemies.
>Promethean weapons
They've been reworked to be more unique.
>Mythic weapons
So that you have an excuse to introduce more weapons of the same type (SPNKR rocket launcher, M6D 'CE Magnum', Gravity hammer, etc.)
>Movement options
Honestly they aren't bad. They actually make the game more fun.
>The multiplayer
The bad:
>The campaign
It's really short. Also evil Cortana.
>The lack of gametypes
>The halo feeling
Once again 343 somewhat failed at giving off the 'Halo' feeling for this game (this can go from designs, to music, it's dependent on the player)
>Lack of split-screen
It may not affect you, but you must remember that most of the Halo fanbase is composed of casual players that are used to play on together the couch
Why it'll probably fail:
>Lack of popularity to begin with
>The Blue:Osyris mission ratio
>Lack of spit-screen
>The bad reviews it's receiving from various places
>>315373032
I liked the old days when humanity was just a plain old species and not a pathetic artificial chosen race.
>>315373274
Humans were only chosen cause the Forerunners were stuck up dicks.
>>315373361
Humans were only chosen because the Librarian liked our god damn planet, it was fucking weird seeing that in the terminals. A better question what the fuck was she even doing on Earth, the logs made it seem like she was just accepting the end as the galaxy was getting floodified.
It was originally going to be going down with the ship with the forerunners.
>>315373556
Humans were chosen to inherit the mantle from the precursors m8, long before the inevitable doom of the forerunners.
>>315373646
And there's that again, god dammit.
343 fucked up my fav franchise senpai
>>315370292
No, because the world isnt like your tumblr hugbox and people still hate niggers
