GTA5 doesn't allow mods at all.
How do you guys here at /v/ feel about this?
http://www.thinkcomputers.org/rockstar-changes-eula-and-bans-players-for-modding-gta-v/
>only bought the PC port to mod it
what a waste
I'm really glad I didn't drop the money to upgrade my PC. This is the only game I really wanted to upgrade for.
>>293519035
Glad that I reinstalled the previous patches before the one that killed modding.
Ban me. I don't even play multiplayer
>>293519035
>b-b-bbut pc has mods
>>293519035
>be on private dedicated servers
>get banned from GTAO
OH MY GOD NO
WHAT WILL I DO WITHOUT
GTAO
T
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>>293519865
They're banning single player too
Any reason as to why? There is probably a logical reason behind it other than jumping to "Rockstar hates you"
>>293520197
They can't differentiate between modding for singleplayer and multiplayer due to how the game is set up so it's just banning across the board from what I can gather.
>>293520197
They want to sell shark cards.
>>293520093
The files are on my computer I can do whatever I want with the files on my computer TOS be damned.
>>293520197
They run a business selling things that could easily be modded in. People who mod single player would more than likely have mods that affect multiplayer (even graphical stuff). Finally, it's in the TOS that you can't, so that's that.
And this is why paid mods are a bad idea, shit like this becomes commonplace. Bunch of greedy fucking Jews, I'm glad I pirated this.
>>293520368
>>293520586
>>293520754
It'll be fixed, remember San Andreas had a mod that downgraded the version to support mods, we'll be fine just keep on fighting guys.
>>293519035
this will just end up with more pirating
This is what I don't think is fair:
>Change rules so that you will be banned if you mod
>Ban everyone who disobeyed the rules before they existed.
I understand punishing people who disobeyed the rules. But punishing people who disobeyed things that weren't even rules is absolute bullshit,
I'm glad my policy of "no preorders and wait more than a month after releases to buy" rule has paid off in spades, who'd have thought. Thanks for driving me to make it brink.
>highest selling game of all time
>made more money than any game in history
>made because not making more money selling in game currency
>banning players because they are trying to enjoy the game and not just spending money on in game currency
Rockstar was my favourite videogame company. Just about the only one I liked. Now I just hate them. Why are they doing this shit?
>>293521883
jewish scotts what do you expect?
>>293521883
I only have 4 devs on my list of "trust these guys and throw them money". I recommend everyone have this sort of list. If they do shit like R* did, they lose their place on the list and you don't support them. No one ever does this though, gamers are the worst consumers.
>>293519296
This right here. I mean... it isn't a total waste. The graphics are much better than PS4 on my system. But... I've already played GTAV. I would've rather just done through the PS4 version when it was released and played with my PS4 friends back when they were really playing.
>>293521883
Because they've realized just how much shit they can get away with.
GTA V is the record holder for fastest-selling piece of media in history, before which GTA IV was the record holder. They realize that they could arguably make GTA VI Early Access with a real money cash shop in single player, then sell the multiplayer segment for an extra $40, and it would still outsell GTA V.
>>293522128
Who's on your list?
>>293521883
what does modding ad in game currency have in relation to each other?
>>293521883
because you were too fucking stupid to listen to the consolefags that warned you for years what rockstar was doing
"thanks for beta testing" indeed
All the warning signs were there. Yet you all chose to ignore them. Fuck each and every one of you enabling shitheads. Your insistance of perpetuating the console vs pc war instead of using your fucking heads has let Rockstar get away with all of this.
>>293519296
I feel the same way.
I should've pirated the game instead.
Good thing I pirated it. :^)
>renting games
I hope you guys don't do this :^)
>>293522415
Not him, but I was well aware. I'm not surprised at all, but at least we already have FiveM servers working to some extent.
Thanks for the b test bruh
>>293522310
Tripwire interactive (as far as KF franchise), facepunch studios, Cloud imperium games and valve (extended only to half life and l4d series).
>>293522128
But that's what I'm saying. I had a list like that and rockstar was on it. Now they aren't. It's a huge betrayal to their customers.
They made more money than anyone off this shit already. It's like they don't care about loyal players and they only care about the casual market who will just buy their shit play for a week and forget about it.
Most people won't ever buy shark cards if they play alot but the guy who just plays casually and just wants a tank for the day will buy a shark card, play for a day and then forget about it but that's all that's important to them now.
They used to be cool and give a shit about giving players what they want but now it's just about money. Fuck them.
How can they seriously expect loyalty from players if they betray betray us like this?
I have bought every fucking rockstar game made.
From now on I will pirate anything they make.
Fuck them.
kek jokes on you
Pirate master race already playing with working restaurants and fuel consumption mods
>>293522592
Really? Valve?
REALLY?
Why not vanillaware?
I should've pirated the game. The online sucks anyway and I already played through the shitty story on the 360 a long time ago.
>>293522592
>Facepunch studios
what the fug
>>293522386
If people could just use mods that gave them free cash for nothing, or free vehicles and such, then no one would bother to buy Shark Cards.
Simple as that.
>>293519035
Can we get a real source with some evidence please
>>293522658
Rockstar has been doing this shit since the console release of GTA V.
If you're just now realizing how awful they are you should just stop playing video games.
They don't need loyalty they have billions from selling their game on hype alone
Can you get a refund since they changed the EULA?
Or do they state in it that you agree to any possible changes to the eula?
>>293519035
I'd rather this than have hackers, if these are the only two options.
>>293522386
If you mod the game you can ad in game currency.
Rockstar has a store you can exchange real world currency for in game currency. The main reason they are against modding is that people are using mods to get in game currency instead of buying it.
>>293522775
I remember my game glitched and the money I got in single player transferred over to online some how, should I be banned?
If you waited a year for it to come out, you can wait 3 more for Online go lost enough steam for the mods to come back.
>>293522872
Find the EULA, then run it through EULAlyzer.
That can pinpoint exactly where it says in the contract that Rockstar has no obligation to allow refunds and they can basically fuck your mother if you complain.
>>293522872
EULAs don't even hold up in court.
>>293522592
dude you are a retard
>>293522415
I'm not a "PC masterrace" guy. I own the game on 360.
That's why it's even bigger of a slap in the face. I showed these scumbags loyalty by not just buying this game once but twice because I wanted the full version... at least I didn't buy on a next gen console like some people.
I was happy with my decision until this latest move by rockstar. Now I am completely disappointed in them and like I said I will no longer be giving them any money.
>>293522929
Fucking disgusting greedy fucks. Just pirate that shit. They made the quality of their online worse so that they could get people to pay real money in order to make it better.
>>293522872
You are free to not consume their products if you disagree, else you can pirate or fuck right off.
>>293521441
But you were warned before the launch
This was expected
>>293519035
How do I feel? I feel like Rockstar isn't getting any money from me. I know I'm just a drop in the bucket, but if that's how they want to do it, that's their choice to make. Not like I can't spend sixty dollars on something else anyway.
>>293523071
>software that reads eulas for you
It sound hilarious, didn't know such thing exists.
>>293522658
GTA:O is such an un-fun abortion of a multiplayer game. I don't get how Rockstar can be so amazing with single player games and just shit the bed so hard with the multiplayer component. Even if you take the micro-transaction bullshit out it's still not fun.
>>293522929
Modders should get a real life, instead of ruining something some people put a lot of time and effort into. I'd be pissed if that was my project and people were not even playing it the way it was made to be.
>>293523408
Warned by who? Rockstar have never mentioned anything even to this day they refuse to comment on explicitly mods.
>>293522658
I'm in the same boat but was disappointed with GTAIV i wanted to like V but we all know how that went. I won't buy another game from them either, it's unfortunate. In their eyes losing a few loyal fans is worth skyrocketing their profit margin.
>>293522718
The HL and L4D series have done no wrong so far imo but i am very wary of how valve has been behaving lately, again trying to increase a profit margin.
>>293522725
FPS got a fair way through creating Rust when they discovered a pretty significant flaw in their engine and announced it to their fans and said they would have to change it it over. They very easily could have sold rust as is, left they EA customer in the ground and ran to the bank, but didn't
>>293523243
>Greedy fucks
>The only reason GTA Online gets free updates is because of shark cards
>not even hard to make money
>wait a year and a half to release the game because fuck you that's why
>release it at ten dollars overpriced because fuck you that's why
>no mods because fuck you you might invalidate our microtransactions
I nominate Rockstar as the worst developer of the decade so far.
>>293523514
It scans them for clauses and shit that you'd otherwise not see in the ocean of legalese.
Shit was fucking cool 9 years ago.
>>293523636
They mentioned nodding and said they wanted to maintain their stuff for the game mostly for Online. Only reason I didn't install any mods is because I knew this would happen.
>>293523529
Why the fuck can't we play in lobbies with police turned off?
>>293519035
>One of the biggest selling points of the GTA V version
First sentence and they've already failed to proofread it.
Jurnalizm in half a sentence.
>>293519035
>How do you guys here at /v/ feel about this?
/v/ feels like you should use archive.today you fucking kike.
>>293523529
GTA IV multiplayer was pretty good, if a bit annoying when nobody wanted to play the co-op missions/do anything that wasn't Free Roam and camp the chopper spawns.
>>293523556
How is it ruining it?
Was Skyrim ruined by mods? Even Bethesda wanted to make money off the mods for their game because they realised the mods were mostly improvements and most players would use them.
Surprisingly Notch is seeming more and more like a good guy for not being such an asshole as these other companies since he allows users to make improvements or alterations on his games at their own discretion since they already paid him once.
pc master race
>>293521883
What did you expect from a company that mocks Facebook integration and Micro transactions who then adds in Facebook integration and Micro transactions?
>PCfags waited almost 2 fucking years to be banned for muh modding
I didn't buy GTA V but fugggg that's fucked up, the funny thing is that, since is based Rockstar and GTA V muh GOTY, the support for the game will never stop.
Gaiming is just worse and worse everyday.
![Hatred[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sNvuLO2.jpg "Hatred[1].jpg")
>pic related has mod support
>GTAV bans you for using mods
Hatred confirmed better mass murder simulator.
This isn't true, Rockstar support said while they don't support modding, you can still do it in single player. JUST TURN THEM OFF FOR GTA ONLINE
>>293522592
Geez you could have at least said Paradox or something.
>still trusting vidya in 2015
Man, you guys sure are fucking stupid.
>>293524145
The PC version is still better than the console version. PC users are just less prone to accept needless draconian restrictions for profit from greedy companies.
Is there something wrong, goy?
>>293524264
The edgier it is, the more normies will hate it, the more /v/ will lap it up.
>>293524264
It even has flamethrowers. Too bad it's black and white art direction looks like shit.
>>293524343
>PC users are just less prone to accept needless draconian restrictions for profit from greedy companies
Apparently not anymore.
>>293522592
>valve
>just because the company is jewish about everything else doesn't mean the will be about my favorite IP
>>293524498
>Too bad it's black and white art direction looks like shit.
Why don't you mod in color?
>>293524309
People are getting banned from playing the game entirely for modding single player.
Even something as basic as playing as an animal in game will get you banned from playing the game you bought entirely..
If you have no internet connection you can't play. If you have one the game connects and scans if you are using mods and you get banned even in single player.
This is no joke.
Rockstar has turned from one of the only good ones into just another shit company.
>No mods
Good, less things I have to pay for
>keep one legit install for GTAO and one cracked install for mods
idorts win again
>>293520093
Yeah but him being banned doesnt effect him as he doesnt play multiplayer
>>293524720
>>293522592
>TripeWire "It's Okay When We Do It" Interactive
>Valve
>FacePunch
>Cloud Imperium
This is fucking b8 right? Cause I'm mad.
Didn't /v/ bitch and moan for the longest time about this port? "When is GTA V going to be on the PC?!" I don't get involved in the flame wars of Console VS PC but holy shit this is funny. Careful what you wish for.
>>293522592
Tripwire and Valve are both Objectively worse than CDPR and Obsidian
>>293524334
I can add to the list, it's not a list of "greatest devs of all time", it's just a list of devs I've done business with who haven't fucked me. I buy games from other devs, I'm just a lot more wary of it (i wait longer for gameplay videos/reviews, check out their generals in VG etc). I have 182 games in my library, not all are from those four and i have do have games from paradox.
>>293524637
No, it means if they do get "jewish" about my favourite ips (which they haven't yet), i simply no longer buy them.
>>293524945
Nope, just my opinion mate.
>>293525002
To be fair its a lot prettier than the console version
But its also a buggy mess with really shitty netcode and menus
>>293524804
i was under the impression that they were doing this mass effect(?) style where you'd get banned from playing the single player as well.
>>293525002
Well, the game is still there, they just didn't get mods. Still a net positive, as I see it.
>>293524343
>cant own games
>paid mods
>no optimization
>hacking on everything
I don't understand why people think that just because they stand on a different patch of land they are smarter. PC users are just as retarded as everyone else, building a PC does not make you somehow more intelligent. The reason why AAA companys avoid PC is pirating which is just being a nigger.
>>293525072
I completely disagree, you may want to look up the word objective in a dictionary as well.
>>293524804
It will when Rockstar decides to revoke his access of the game on his steam account.
>>293524758
How many gigs do you need just to be able to play this game then?
>>293525162
And the point made that "PC port's only purpose is to mod the game, since that's what PC is made for"?
>>293525149
From what I've seen its only from multiplayer, there was also mention of a "Hacker lobby" where you are put into a lobby with only other hackers
Most bans for first offenses seem to be just two weeks, and you keep the items you hacked in (but not the money)
so iunno
I bought a physical copy of this piece of shit because I had a shit connection and figured I'd be nice and support them for once.
I am 'so' pissed at this right now. I can't even refund or trade this piece of shit.
Laugh all you like, but as a person who bought the game purely for the mods, I'm absolutely livid right now.
Rockstar is now on my bad list with Capcom and a few others. I will give them as little money as possible for the future regardless of the hype.
>>293520093
How and why can they ban single player, and how does modding in single player affect Rockstar or other players.
>>293525316
There's a bunch of people who don't care about modding on PC. Maybe they like gaming on a single device, maybe they like playing in windowed mode while doing other shit, maybe they like boosting up the resolution, maybe they enjoy ridiculous supersampling. Mods aren't the only reason people play on PC.
>>293525465
Because modern game devs are obsessed with controlling every element of your experience.
>>293525465
because they can program worth shit and their system cant tell the difference
>>293525465
They can terminate your access to their fisrt party DRM, blocking you off from the game.
>>293525193
Obsidian
>never released a broken game without the publisher forcing them to
>always upped their contemporaries when signed to do a tacked on sequel
>single handedly revived crpg genre with one of the most well balanced and written games of all time
CDPR
>released free enhanced editions of both of their games
>slav magic graphics
>has literally done nothing wrong with the Witcher 3
>inb4 delay is used as a mark against them
>owns and operates the largest push for drm free gaming in history
Obsidian has nothing as bad as RO2 on launch or the shit load of dlcs kf2 has and cdpr is literally doing everything right that valve is failing to do, plus their actually making fucking games still
>>293525465
>How and why can they ban single player
you have to authenticate the game online, so they can get you through that, and as for why it's mostly "because they can"
>how does modding in single player affect Rockstar or other players
They figure it might carry over or something, and then there'd be people at level 1 with an undecillion dollars cocking up the economy by not buying their Shark Cards.
I was gonna curate the title, but banning for a fov mod that I would have installed if I knew about it before all this shit.
>>293525465
They online game probably shares assets with the single player. Easier for them to blanket ban mods instead of drawing a hundred lines in the sand.
>>293525178
Stop bringing console war nonsense into this.
The point is Rockstar has gone full retard and we shouldn't put up with that shit.
It's not platform vs platform.
It's users vs shit developers vs good developers.
Take Devolver for instance.
>hotline miami 2 gets banned from sale in australia
>hi i'm a fan I would like to play your game is there any way I can buy it off you regardless of restrictions
>hi anon, don't worry about it just pirate it and play it, don't even worry about paying us, we're just happy you enjoy it.
>thanks devolver, take my ten dollars anyway, you guys are champs.
>>293524697
I thought you could play offline through social club?
Rockstar doesn't want mods because they want to nickle and dime gamers with DLC
GTA5 is going to be the new TF2.
It's basically a botch-job pants on head retarded attempt to stop hackers done in a blanket, lazy as shit way that, as usual, will fail to stop hackers but will swiftly punish people trying to have fun.
>>293525890
you can
>>293525890
Still has to authenticate every once in a while.
At a certain point, your offline creds expire, and you have to log in to keep playing.
>>293522592
>Trusting Valve as far as the L4D series is concerned.
You have to be fucking trolling.
Nobody can be this fucking stupid.
>>293525885
No fucking shit? I just said PC is the same as everything else the cock munch i replied to was saying PC is beter. I read up until i realized you had no reading comprehension.
>>293525890
ALWAYS ON
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>>293525890
Just remember anon Xbox is the problem with DRM.
>>293525768
Why ban you? You payed money for this game under the impression that you could mod it, and it certainly seemed that way. So why a ban after such a sudden change of heart? It seems like a lot of people who might have wanted to avoid the ban might not have gotten wind in time to remove the mods, and therefor don't deserve the ban.
Also if they are worried about mods carrying over, then JUST ban them from multiplayer so that that the person who still payed money for the game and fucking supported them can still play the damn thing.
pc master race amiright?
>>293525752
I can't speak for RO2. However TWI supported and produced content for KF1 for almost 10 years. A majority of their DLC is cosmetic snowflake shit because game devs need to eat. KF2 has a deluxe edition which again is snowflake shit and has zero effect on gameplay. Nearly all games have "special" purchase editions and it was still cheaper then most games are on release. If this sort of DLC means a 17 years will support TWO for me paying $30 for a game that get support for another ten years, i'm down. I can't really have this argument because I only know 2 games from OE but they seem decent enough.
>>293526129
I am that guy. And it is better but only if you have a PC more powerful than a PS4 or XBONE.
You are still promoting console wars bullshit.
The PC version is better because you can get better graphics out of it and it has a few minor features the console version doesn't have. That doesn't mean you will ultimately get more enjoyment out of the game.
>>293526440
You're probably going to get banned for that shitpost, but if you think mods are anywhere in the top 5 reasons to game on pc you're delusional
>>293522872
Can you just do a chargeback on a credit card?
>>293526515
The bottom line then really is that your opinions are uninformed. Play more games and read up on the histories of them
> thanks for beta testing
> the definitive version
>>293526765
Let's see the console mods. :^)
And the consoles play it at 60fps.
This is one instance when consoles have every right to spam le yellow face because when pc finally gets the game a year and a half later, they're met with the surprise that they're not allowed to do anything fun with it.
>>293525932
they've been adding free DLC since the game launched
>theres no way you can mod, its impossible
>modders find a way to mod almost day one
>oops looks like you can mod, better ban you :^)
why do people trust rockstar again?
>>293519035
You can't expect this to last. With nearly 7000 negative reviews on Steam, Rockstar is gonna have to react.
>>293519035
Not a problem.
Good games do not need to be modded.
>>293526698
No, the bottom line is i have provided reasons for supporting every single one of those devs and your argument equates to "yeah but stop liking what i don't like, you're uninformed". Grow up.
>>293526958
You do realize "not doing anything fun" amounts to playing it the same way consoles do, don't you?
PC still has the benefit of performance.
>>293526967
Years and years of decent-to-good games?
Granted, the last 3-4 years have basically been pissing away good will.
as soon as shark cards came out it was all over.
>>293526765
>console wars babby
It's still the best version of the game.
It's just not all that it could be because rockstar is reacting irrationally just to prevent griefing online.
I don't get it, didn't GTAIV go out of its way to make modding absolutely retard proof? What happened?
>>293526996
Oh no! Negative Reviews!
That will shirley impact sales of the game in some fashion even though the Wii U should be outselling the PS4 if you go by Metacritic.
http://multiv.mp/
>255 friends and foes the chance of playing together in a world shaped by your own hands
Who cares if you get bannedOnly if you can wait 3 more years
>>293526996
Sure, some mean reviews no one reads are going to do jack shit for the best selling video game of all time.
>>293525410
Same here.
Waited over a fucking year for this. Sure, muh graphics and all that. Looks great. Plays great. Glad for a decent port.
Thanks a whole lot Rockstar for also fucking the only reason I was sticking around for the better version.
Protip for the future: Graphics aren't the ONLY reason PC version is better. They're like 50%. You've now eliminated half the reason I cared to begin with.
The fact that you led me along this way for this long shows you're a bunch of cunts, frankly. I'll think twice about ever purchasing your products in the future. For fuck's sake, I held out for this. Didn't buy any of that console shit because I thought I knew what was coming.
Apparently it was textbook for the future of PC gaming.
>>293527131
So I've heard but again my support of TWI stems from KF. RO2 sounds like a nightmare, guess i got lucky not buying it.
>>293527337
fivem already has working servers
>>293527243
IV didn't get mods for a while due to the newness of RAGE engine/no support from R*/holy complete shit optimization Batman.
Also, the online for it had no microtransactions, so there was nothing to really care about for mods.
W-Will multiplayer mods support pirates?
This is word for word the writing in the GTA IV Eula as well. Most games have this sort of clause for legal reasons. Fuck your sensationalism. They literally can't stop modders if they wanted to.
>>293526392
have you not been paying attention to GTA V threads all these years? Rockstar has been cracking down since GTA online's inception by taking away exploits, tinkering payouts and taking away everybody's hacked billions. mods weren't really an issue on consoles so it didn't really come up but based upon their past actions towards the game and their attempt to control everybody's experience I'm not the least bit surprised.
the impression that you could mod it was completely assumed by fans, I do not believe Rockstar ever let on that it would be moddable. look at it from the developers perspective, sure you might think that modding a game extends it's lifespan and keeps players playing but how does that benefit Rockstar? they already have your money and would rather sell you a sequel. if you were a developer and worked hard on something I doubt you'd be okay with someone coming along and scribbling over your work, even if, no especially if they do it better than you. they put effort into an experience they create so why would they give two shits if you want to change it into something else. mods were tolerated I guess but I'm not at all shocked if developers aren't big fans of them. I"m not defending this stance of theirs, mainly just trying to view this from their perspective as that's the best way to make sense of things.
>>293527774
Except they are already banning people for "cheating", even in singleplayer.
>>293525768
>economy
Why do they even bother? There is no economy, there isn't a limited quantity of anything. You can get 100k in an hour doing a heist.
I want to leave a negative review on steam but I'm afraid of copping a total ban with valves new "you can ban people from playing your game entirely for negative reviews" policy.
>>293527774
Except they did, they banned some guy on reddit from SP and MP for modding.
>>293526589
actually behind graphics and framerate it's probably the third most mentioned thing around here. getting your games in a timely manner certainly isn't one of them.
>>293527873
Pirated it and haven't seen the online, but AFAIK 100k is pretty much nothing compared to how much any of the good shit costs.
>>293527863
>>293527953
I fail to see how that stops mods from getting made. Nobody will want to play GTAO in the end anyway.
>>293527953
>banned some guy on reddit
Good. Fuck him and the set he claims :^)
>>293528053
They can block you off from their DRM and ban you from single player as well, can't you read?
What a fucking couple weeks this has been for PC gaming, not only is MKX for PC STILL FUCKING BROKEN but it's also getting Jason late and now GTA V, a game i spent money to upgrade my graphics card to play it, doesn't allow mods.
God, i fucking just want to throw this shit out and go live in a cabin or something. This is nonsense.
>>293528049
I play a lot of online. 100k isn't massive but it's still a sizable amount. 100k is one of the lower heist amounts, you can get ~250k from the final heist and can just play it over and over again. ~6 hours of grinding can get you any super car and most helicopters/the armored truck
>>293528053
>No one uses mods due to R* banning players from the entire game for doing so.
>No demand for mods.
>No reason to make mods.
>No mods.
It just werks.
>>293526949
lets see PC Mods, oooops you got banned, enjoy your set of coasters. PC cucked again
>>293527823
>sequel
You mean that thing that won't exist for at least another 10 years.
I'd rather expansions to the fucking single player than focusing on online bullshit and the only we ever had on single player expansion was modders but now that will get your game locked and unplayable so thanks a lot online for those precious shark cards that very few faggots will ever buy for ruining fucking everything about this game.
>>293528163
have they done that?
So wait a second.
I've never played online in GTA. Not for one single fucking second.
I use mods because they're fun as hell, and interesting. I was looking forward to crazy shit like those iron man mods, and the flying UFOs and Jetpacks and shit like that which we never got from their stupid mystery because THEY STILL HAVEN'T ADDED MORE SINGLE PLAYER AFTER 18 FUCKING MONTHS...
And you're telling me...
That if I use ANY of these mods and they detect it, that I won't just be banned from multiplayer/online/updates/whatever, I'll be banned from fucking using my game at all!?
The game I paid fucking money for? They'll just steal that money right back!?
Because if that's true, that's absolute horse-shit.
Gaben bought them off. Calling it now.
>2 weeks from now
>paid mods return for GTA5
>>293528474
Yes, they guy from Reddit got banned from SP and MP.
>>293519035
all you bitches never heard of a VPN, Bastion host or Proxy
>>293527915
>being afraid of free speech
really now
is /v/ another version of /co/?
>>293524030
>notch let people mod his game
You have no idea what youre talking about.
Notch never wanted mods and actually went as far as to take popular mods and force them into his game (enchantments, hunger, villages ect) leaving modders absolutely nothing in terms of modding.
It was only until AFTER notch left to go jerk it in his mansion that jeb and the developers added modding capabilities.
>>293528560
>Rockstar
>mods
First they'd have to make Rockstar release official modding tools, and Rockstar has literally never done that, and won't start now.
>>293528474
Yes and it will only happen more and more in the future judging by the rhetoric they have expressed so far. (They refuse to give any solid information on single player modding other than all modding will result in total ban).
>>293528328
that changes nothing though, like I said if it doesn't make Rockstar money, Rockstar don't care. there's a reason we've dubbed them RockstarofDavid.
>>293528583
I'd sure like to see that
>>293528505
>That if I use ANY of these mods and they detect it, that I won't just be banned from multiplayer/online/updates/whatever, I'll be banned from fucking using my game at all!?
That's exactly right. Your only hope is that R* cops enough shit that they change the EULA which is very unlikely.
>The game I paid fucking money for? They'll just steal that money right back!?
Nah you keep the game files, you just can ever access them in a useful way.
>>293528505
Yes. That is why people are mad and refusing to buy rockstar products in the future.
>>293526285
>Not knowing what you are talking about
It doesn't have DRM though
If you download a game online you keep it if you go offline/run out of gold
They just locked multiplayer behind a paywall
>>293526996
>Reviews matter
>Scores matter
Maybe to most devs, but R* can give no shits, kinda glad you faggots are learning not to trust them, 4 was meh and V is a shit
>>293519035
Considering that GTA V is pretty much an mmo-lite at this point, it would make sense that they won't allow mods.
Post yfw pirate fags win again
>months and months of shitposting over best version of GTA V getting closer and closer
>It releases
>apart from better graphics, gives nothing that won't get you banned
You only had to listen! You could've played mostly the same thingapart from fps modetwo years ago on your PS3 and 360!
been playing since release on modded/tagged consoles. ps3/360.
been playing PC version since released, modded.
handed out (in game) billions and made quite a few real money dollars doing it.
never banned once.
if you're a retard about "hacking" the game, you fucking deserve it.
I am still selling accounts made on xbox/ps3. 10 million R* bucks included as well as unlocks and other junk.
>>293529302
they aren't allowing mods in singleplayer, which is the problem. not allowing mods in multiplayer is one thing, not giving us dedicated servers to mod online with is a dick move, but banning players for modding the fucking SINGLEPLAYER is absolutely inexcusable.
>>293529353
I don't use mods. How does this affect me?
Negatively, i assume.
>mods
Who cares. 90% of mods are shit and only skyrim babbies think they are some kind of essential feature for games
>>293529724
Tighter and more controlled restrictions on videogames on every platform in the future.
Allowing all videogame companies to ban you from using products you have paid for in the future at their own discretion.
>>293529850
>I started playing video games in 2006 please rape my face
>>293530039
>ban you from using products you have paid for
I still never saw this as logical. They have rules. You break it, you bought it.
It's like going to a football game and causing a disturbance in the seats. Yeah, you paid for the ticket, but that doesn't mean you can do whatever the fuck you want. You're not above the rules just because you paid for something.
Glad I only paid $30 for this shit.
>>293530389
Yes but the disruption at the football game is ruining other people's enjoyment.
That's why it only make sense to restrict online play.
By punishing people for altering single player is more like punishing people for altering a tshirt they bought for themselves.
>>293530389
What if you get kick out because you wearing the wrong fucking t-shirt, because the manager said so.
That's how I feel right now
>>293530183
Skyrimbabby detected. Mods were shit before 2006 as well
Great reason to pirate it. Good job being retarded, Rockstar.
>>293530389
except this isnt the football game its you in your self contained room watching the game, who cares if you want to turn the saturation up on the game? if your the only one watching the game whats wrong with tailoring it to your preference?
>tfw Rockstar is banning user mods becausethey plan on selling mods for an additional fee in the future
Banning customers from single player because of mods is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
>mfw Rockstar promised a AAA technological experience and delivered shit
>mfw Rockstar is trying to hide this by taking away your games for modding
>mfw Rockstar couldnt fool mustard fags and they immediately recognized the game sucks
>mfw Rockstar took you goons for a ride
>mfw pirates win yet again by frankensteining the files so they can actually make it good
>>293531102
>Black Mesa was shit
>Doom WADs were shit
>DotA All Stars was shit
>Project Reality was shit
>Half Life Counter Strike was shit
I don't even play Skyrim, but you've got some pretty wrong opinions, bub.
>change EULA after customers have already bought the product
>customers can't do shit about it because if they don't agree they can't access their game they paid for
Future of video games, ladies and gentlemen.
>agree to a EULA that bans me for modding multiplayer
>they now ask me to agree to a new EULA that bans me from singleplayer too
>there are no refunds, you just dont get to play the game
This is the most Jewish company in video games.
>>293531417
Why?
As long as they themselves didn't explicitly use mods as a way to advertise the game, and as long as the rule book states that it's subject to change, how else could they be liable?
>>293531650
Because in first-world countries (i.e.: not Burgerstan) the EULA means jack shit and companies will get their asshole reamed for trying to jew people this hard.
For a company that makes its living off mocking America, they sure are the biggest lying scumbag faggots.
>>293531787
I don't know if that answers my question on why Rockstar can get slapped with a lawsuit. Do people in your country get hit with those for being a dick?
I lose faith in you more every year, Rockstar
Why are you such assholes to modders? Or people that want to customize the game to suit themselves?
Will my sp get banned for Using FiveM?Because I already launched it up :E
Also HOLY SHIT how do you even get to be this retarded, I know youtube commentators are braindead but GOD DAMN.
I really wonder what took Rockstar so long to do this. In the weeks/months preceding GTA V's PC release they were asked what their stance on modding was and gave no answer, I mean did they really think that nobody would mod it? Shit.
>>293531626
this is lawsuit territory
if Sony can be sued so can Rockstar
find those lawyers /v/irgins
>>293527386
Eh, it's not that bad
470 hours played but it's starting to get a little dull
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89x1lxd7ajA
That's not all, I just came across this
>>293531787
America is defined explicitly in the definition of "first world" you memeing un/int/elligent
>>293531508
I think you mean present of video games
PC Master Race, am I right?
Jetpack when?
>>293532183
Rockstar was hoping after GTA IV nobody would even buy the fucking game, allowing them to continue milking console retards who don't know any better.
>>293519035
I bought it on green man gaming, any way to get a refund? I don't want it anymore. It's the exact same thing as my PS3 copy. I bought it only for the hope of fun mods and that hope is dead now.
>PCucks wait 2 years for a played to death game
>Claim it'll be way more amazing with mods
>"Thanks for beta testing!"
>Can't even mod the game without getting banned
>All they have to show for 2 years is slightly better graphics if your PC can run it
>my motherfucking face when
This is fucking hilarious.
>inb4 I pirated it
You're the cancer as to why people don't want to make PC ports the best they can be, and you know it
>There are people who support paid mods
>go to reviews on GTA V
>there are people who support banning modders because some of them hack
Why do these people treat these gigantic corporations like they're their buddies, and feel the need to protect them zealously? Why do they WANT to spend more money?
Gamers truly are terrible consumers, I can't even fathom anything similar to this shit happening in anything outside of the gaming industry.
who are these lawyers from the 2011 psn hack lawsuit?
http://www.cnet.com/news/sony-sued-for-playstation-network-data-breach/
rev up the long arm of the law
Good, they have every right to do that.
If I made videogames I would fucking mate mods too.
It would really grind my gears if I dumped time and energy into making something to deliver a specific experince than some cunt just walks by and fucking changes it to do something else.
Mods are for shit games like Skyrim.
>>293532681
But what if I buy a copy to play online, then pirate a copy to mod it?
>>293532810
You'd be just fine like that.
>>293532810
That's well within your right and there's nothing Rockstar can legally do about it.
>>293532183
If they announced that mods are unsupported (and bannable) right at the release, they'd lose a metric fuckton of sales.
It's pretty obvious what R* did here. They waited until they got a majority of the sales down, and THEN enacted on this bullshit because they knew there was little chance of people getting a refund.
>>293532810
>120GB for a game
oh god
my ssd can't take it
>>293532990
pc fats need to get a lawsuit going
>>293533146
>GTA V on a SSD
Only matters for singleplayer. Loading screen times on Online aren't affected at all by a SSD.
>suing a company with more money than most Hollywood studios
>>293532691
>Why do these people treat these gigantic corporations like they're their buddies
This has been going on for decades. People like the idea of sides/teams. They live off of it. It's why you see sports an endless industry. Same with electronics and endless tech examples such as: Android/IOS, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo, NBC/CBS/ABC, CapeshitA/CapeshitB, etc.
It's the basic way a human brain works. You either understand it, accept it, and learn to at least try to understand it and curb it or just go with it and pretend there's some other path out there.
>>293519035
good thing I didn't but this shit. Fuck rockstar
>>293531472
Those are the 10% of mods that are good. The rest are terrible. The mods you make in GTA V would be nowhere comparable to those mods
>>293533510
There's already mods that fix the handling, as well as fairly in-depth RP mods.
Not too bad for a recently-released game with no mod tools and a developer actively against modding.
You can still play the singleplayer even if you get banned, right?
>>293534180
>>293533510
San andreas have some of the best mod it ever been created.
They made a fucking MP-mod for it.
I love GTA modding community. Its sad that rockstar have to put their long nose into it.
>>293533510
Console Vineyard Grapes
"They're the sourest!"
>>293534264
I'm still waiting on a proper hydraulics mod for cars. That shit was so much fun to fuck around with in San Andreas, why it wasn't in 5 I really don't know.
>>293520586
>The files are on my computer I can do whatever I want with the files on my computer TOS be damned.
DRM sez: No
>>293531365
It's possible.
They don't go through Steam. They have Social Club. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
>>293534238
There is a time and a place for anime girl reaction images but I ask for a proper response at this time, please. I searched around on Google and found numerous reports of being banned from online, but haven't seen anything reporting being banned from singleplayer. Here however, people are saying that you get banned from that too. I'm not sure if it's true or /v/ isn't happy with what should already be enough rage fuel and is lying so people will rage even more.
>>293519296
You're a retard for thinking any major game within the past five years on PC was going to actually have mod support.
>>293520032
People will just get a second copy or torrent in the first place. Mods will still happen. Fuck Rockstar anyway.
>>293534824
>major game within the past five years on PC was going to actually have mod support.
..............What is Skyrim?
>>293534824
what is skyrim
I'll take mods over the casual online mode any day. I'll wait until someone makes a third party multiplayer client for it so we can have complex servers with their own scripts.
>>293523479
Good. More will come. There's no reason to fuck with people's freedom to mod their game.
>>293535014
le cease and desist face
>>293529353
>Everything going to online shit
Fuck this. I want my honest solo single player shit back thanks. I'm a console pleb and was genuinely excited to see what you PC guys could do to this game since, imo, GTAV was a letdown for me.
Fuck Cockstar.
>>293528237
Not if youre a lone wolf fag with no friends like me.
I have to grind liquor stores, sell random cars (once every 45 minutes or whatever it is), and pray I can do some deathmatches where I suck at aiming and get leaderboard fags screaming at me about my shit K/D / L/W ratios, even though I dont give a fuck about that and just try to have fun. And god forbid I actually say that, then I get the "U MAD BRO, OH HE MAD DOG, GIT GUD" bullshit.
Id be too scared to try any heists with randoms because I would be the guy who gets killed or misses a headshot and fucks it for everyone.
>>293533260
This.
Rockstar would counter-sue you with a sum most people can't even count to.
Time to switch to Meme Row. It ain't nearly as bad as the name makes it sound.
>>293534824
When the AAA retards realize that mods boosts their sales, everyone will welcome mods.
>>293522437
There's no crack yet anyway
>>293535456
Mods don't boost sales if the game isn't broken initially (i.e. Bethesda games)
