RTS thread.
What´s some good slow paced RTS? I like to spend my time inspecting the terrain and choosing the best position and curse of action rather than clickspamming my way to victory.
Also general RTS thread
Starcraft 2
>>283528432
Galatic Battlegrounds in my personal favorite RTS.
How are the newer C&C games? Red Alert 3 and Tiberium Wars to be exact.
>>283529008
RA3 is okay gameplay wise, the campaign is terrible
CnC 3 has no redeeming qualities
>tfw you laid asleep last night mentally designing AoE IV and it's the best game ever
I can't be the only one with this level of autism
What innovations would /v/ like to see in RTS games?
>>283529127
RA3 also some good mods to fix any problems. Just get Revolution and your good to go for a very tight Skirmish mode.
Planetary Annihilation can be slow if you want it to be. It's also the best RTS ever made.
>>283529196
>you laid asleep
the fuck?
>>283529313
awake*
i'm tired as shit
>>283529251
Tried it.
It´s relatively slow, yes, but it´s all about masification.
>>283529008
In retrospect, after playing RA3 and CnC4 I enjoyed CnC3 and Kane's Wrath. I wasn't a fan of RA3 and I think its standalone expansion is the actual worst game in the series after the Facebook game Tib Alliances.
>>283529560
>RA3 and I think its standalone expansion is the actual worst game in the series
Yes it was basd and the units it introduced were ridiculously OP
The allies had that giant plane that had near the same range the big ships had, you could snipe any building without taking any risks, it was so stupid
>>283529394
>masification
I'm assuming you mean "massing units"
Uh...what exactly is wrong with that? And what is preventing you from scouting your opponent to PREVENT him from doing so? And how in the fuck are ALL OTHER RTS games not about "masification" when it's such an obvious fucking tactic to go for?
I'm really tired of this retarded claim. Idiots made the same claim for Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander, and it's really obvious that they're shitty at the game if they think that that's ALL the games are about. Your excuse is obvious, you only tried it and I'm assuming that means you didn't play it much. Simply massing units isn't going to win you a game against someone who's any good, especially if they're scouting (which they should be doing).
>>283529196
I do too sometimes anon. Not for RTS though.
>>283529394
>>283529745
As if massing shit in StarCraft never happened or worked. Or Age of Empires. Or Cossacks. lol
Men of war.
Assault squad 2 has good multiplayer servers but it's shit, Assault squad 1 is good but you'll have to play over gameranger
You either keep playing Rise of Nations or Supreme commander. Most other RTS either haven't aged well or flat out suck.
>>283529745
>I have no idea what im talking about
>the post
>>283529964
Men of war is RTT not RTS
>>283528432
I miss rise of nations :( i always picked the chinese.
Any new RON game coming out?
>>283530006
>I have nothing to say
>the post
See, I can do that extremely lazy bullshit too, faggot. How about actually countering my argument with a well thought out response? Oh wait, I'm on 4chan.
>>283530052
RoN: Rise of Legends when!?
>>283530228
No, RON = Rise of Natios.
Its in OP's picture.
>>283530006
Nigga YOU have no idea what you're talking about. "All about masification"? Yeah, as if massing a huge army is really that easy against a good player. Yep, that's aaaallll you have to do to win games in PA, just keep building any unit you want and make lots of them. They're not gonna scout and counter you at all!
>>283530315
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_Nations:_Rise_of_Legends
>tfw Grey Goo isn't very good
>tfw most RTS are spaceshit or modern shit and my good old ancient age games are completely dead
>tfw suffering
Grey goo
does total war count?
shogun was pretty neat, planning battles and positioning your battle lines
>>283530212
>>283530338
Why would you need to scout someone amasing units? It should be fairly obvious since he would have no map pressence
and then how would scouting counter it
You are basically spouting buzzwords
samefag
>>283530398
fuck, you rekt me, it only show how noob i am.
Mass is like the most basic principle of war, how do you make an RTS withouth it being the main factor is beyond me.
>Slow placed
Try Empire Earth
You shall know the feeling of slow paced when you can only use 6 villagers on a resource node at the same time, can only mine 15 resources around every 30 seconds, and each resource node is worth 300000 of that particular resource.
>>283530459
>Why would you need to scout someone amasing units?
hahahaah
>and then how would scouting counter it
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>283530538
It's okay, anon, now you know. Join me, and we will force Microsoft to release it on Steam where we can give them more of our shekels.
>>283528432
>RTS
>clickspamming way to victory
Yeah, sorry but you're going to get assblasted by anyone who has optimized builds in any RTS, you might as well play turn based strat games.
AoEII is my GOAT for RTS though, its not as speed based as starcraft
>>283530459
>Why would you need to scout
Stopped right here. You cannot be this stupid. It's a fucking WAR, retard, why would you NOT scout?
![1422211123-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nUset6D.jpg "1422211123-1[1].jpg")
>9 days left
Can't wait to play this masterpiece again online.
Black and white 2
>>283529008
CnC 3? Spam walker and win the game, the campaign can wreck you pretty hard [in hard mode] though. RA3 is pretty ok. Campaign is easy.
what is the RTS with the most satisfying weapon design and why is it CoH
dose explosions man
>>283530683
>mfw all those epochs in Empire Earth
I love that shit.
>>283530971
>>283530690
can you stop samefagging?
Now i Realized the original post was also made by you
CnC Generals
You can build moneymaking buildings so you never run out of cash.
Also the challenges of Zero Hour are good fun. Then install the Shockwave mod for the improved challenges and new generals
>ensemble is dead
>westwood is dead
>blizzard has fallen
>relic is dead
>>283530006
Is RTT doing any better?
>>283528432
Since when RON looks so good?
>>283528432
Total War isn't what you want but it has usfel shit like
>having time to enjoy a battle without worrying about managing villagers and building another mud hut
>penalties for withdrawing troops that are in melee combat
>>283531163
Sorry, fuckface, I'm not the only person who thinks you're retarded. Just admit you're making a stupid criticism about PA already.
![stronghold_kingdoms_siege_big[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SoazzoB.jpg "stronghold_kingdoms_siege_big[1].jpg")
>ctrl f
>stronghold
>0 results
Cmon guys, Stronghold is fucking GOAT
>>283531457
>having time to enjoy a battle without worrying about managing villagers and building another mud hut
but the combination of building and fighting are what makes RTS games fun
maybe not having to do it exactly when you're fighting but doing both in the same gameworld
>Ctrl+F
>Myth 2: Soulblighter
>0 results
Figs
>>283531593
It wouldn't fucking be an RTS if there was no building. It would just be an RTT.
>>283531564
>no crossbowman
Over before it started
>>283531564
>Posting that gay browser game shit.
>Not posting based crusader or at least original stronghold.
>>283531401
since fuck you
>>283531564
>archers not protected by crenelated walls
disgusting
>>283531678
That's RTT.
>>283528632
>play GB:CC again
What the fuck is happening with the colors ?
Why is the sea red on my minimap ?
Why is the desert tile full of green dots ?
>>283531740
>>283531734
>>283531685
relax i just grabbed an image from google
>>283531782
Tbh I think this is what OP wants
>>283531736
>>283531401
Oh, I'm sorry anon, I didn't see the "so" in your post and I thought you are talking shit about RoN.
Time for bed then.
>>283530973
My nigga, was just about to mention Homeworld. Steam workshop support for mods is going to be glorious.
>>283531678
>dat atmosphere in Myth games
Fuck I want more of that. Even Myth 3, which shifted the perspective and was overall an inferior sequel, had more of that sweet "humanity is fucked, there is no way out" atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-OtsyKJCxE
AoE 2 is pretty good
>>283531535
That proves nothing
>>283532047
>that terrain
what the fuck did you do to my beautiful game
>>283531823
you need a patch, AoE2 and all the other old direct x games made back in the early 2000s/ late 1990s' had this issue. There's also a widescreen patch as well, and while were on the subject voobly and games ranger both let you play multiplayer
>>283529127
>C&C3 has no redeeming quality
>RA3 is okay gameplay wise
wut
How can you say that of C&C3, I'd agree with you if you were talking about C&C4. (and even that one is still playable, it just shouldn't have been named "C&C4")
How exactly is RA3 better than C&C3, the only thing that is drastically different in RA3 is the way you build/train in each factions.
I feel like PC strategy games rely too much on doing stuff hiding from your opponent. Structure, army and technology building in the fog of war.
Many strategy board games let you know at all moments what your opponent has deployed and it doesn't make them shallow.
Fog of war by default serves two purposes:
- add guess work. Give that PC RTS rely mostly on rock-paper-scissor mechanics, that means taking chances and hope for the best, or spread the unit specialization to make a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none army
- add action work to decrease the guess work through micro scouting
All in all, I don't think it is beneficial to strategy. I think games where by default you could see everything and where you could occasionally occlude information from your opponents with some sort of fog would be much interesting.
>>283529957
>starcraft 2 beta
>mass marines, win every games
>starcraft 2 get released
>mass marines until late into SC2's life
>win nearly everytime
>>283532229
stronghold allows you to see your opponent/entire map
>>283530228
>mention that shitty game
have some agent orange while you wait
>>283532229
There are a lot of RTS games, if not all of them, with the option to disable fog of war.
>>283528432
played AoE 2 today in multi
got my shit slapped in black forest by some dude that slipped a villager nearby and suprised me with an early rush with catapults
>>283532198
>you need a patch
Any chance that you would feed me on this, O kind anon ?
>>283532229
RTS games have fog of war to represent the real-life fact that your troops cannot see through mountains or 500 miles away. Strategy board games have no fog of war because they are board games where it's impossible to hide what your opponent is doing. A RTS game without fog of war would be just plain stupid because they're already trying to be little simulations with one or two concessions for the sake of playability.
homeworld
>>283530683
God tier shit here. Too bad ut runs like complete shit on modern systems and no HD releases were made. The sequel is... Interesting. Love the era-dependent resources, special units and the more realistic units and mechs, but the building limit, heroes, shitty mid-2000's lighting effects and small as fuck territories sucked ass. The third one is just a blind, lazy cash in on a niche title that, big fucking shocker, didn't work.
>>283532670
EE2 had some good ideas, but just like EE3 it was overall a smaller game compared to the original with not enough to replace all that was removed. I still prefer EE1.
>>283532141
poor dog
>>283532817
it's a harsh doggy dog world
>>283528632
My fucking nigga. Bought it off gog and that game is still fucking fun as hell.
>>283529251
I fucking love PA. I really don't get why it get's shit on so much but I haven't really played TA or SUPCOM that much. Even with Uber being twats PA is still blows every current RTS out of the water, specially fucking SC2.
>>283532394
>ROL
>Not the best RON game.
>>283532817
That is why you don't give your fuckin dog chocolate
>>283532394
RoL is better than RoN which was just a shitty aoe 1 with arbitrary restrictions
>>283528432
>play rise of nations
>expect every faction to be the same minus some unique units
>turns out that every faction has some bonuses that heavily impact the gameplay and unique visuals
they don't make them like that no more.
>>283529957
>Cossacks
No, I don't want to remember.
>>283532575
There's no catapult in aoe2
>>283532394
Well, RoL is a bit different than RoN, but certainly not worse.
I really liked the setting + asymmetrical Races with different ressource/options available.
Also, for it's time it looked very good graphically, as everything (at least the Vinci und Cuotl) was friggin filled with detail
>>283533209
mangonels and onagers are types of catapults
>>283528432
If you like slow pace then Sins of a Solar Empire might be for you.
>tfw play a nonstop game against a friend for 10 hours straight before taking a break for a day and continuing for another 8 before finally winning
>>283533209
>A mangonel was a type of catapult
Suck my dick, fag.
>>283533436
>SoSE
>slow paced
Fuck no.
>>283529957
>Cossacks
MY MAN, I played the fucking shit outta that game when I was young.
European Wars is where its at
what's a good rts where you can just turtle up
>>283533436
I always get my ass handed to me in SoSE
any tips on how to git gut?
>>283533579
How is it not slow paced? everything takes 50 hours to die and once defenses are up the whole game turns into an stalement unless you are advent and have the siege frigates that hit several buildings at once?
If you play vasari you don't even have siege frigates, you have to turtle until you can get several superweapons
>>283533579
Considering the only other RTS games I'd played against friends were things like C&C Kane's Wrath , AOE2, and Rise of Nations Gold it was pretty slow.
>>283533614
Algerian Archers masterrace. Not hitting for days but firing 200 arrows per minute
Also, 200 AA produced by each Barracks per minute.
Without peace-time, those fuckers steam-rolled your base (as they're cheap as hell and can attack buildings)
>>283528432
Knights and Merchants is slow paced
>>283533740
also the average match lasts 5-8 hours
>>283530973
>>283531929
I tried Homeworld.
I damn waited after every level until I had mined down to the last piece of mineral, then built ships.
Somehow I can barely keep up with the enemy. A mission begins and it´s a fucking swarm.
I have never made it past meeting that one big ship that suddenly teleports in front of you at the beginning of a mission, gives you some new technology and disappears when enemies come close.
Then suddenly four or five of those fucking big combat ships teleport around my mothership and start destroying everything, while at the same time an endless swarm of little ships comes from the enemy base.
I´ve tried everything. Massing up on small quick ships to distract and shit. All dead.
Massing up on the heaviest I got. All dead.
Massing up the ships of the track beams and focusing on capturing enemy ships. Still all dead.
Mixing all of the above and savescumming heavily, placing those ships that can capture enemies with tractor beams exactly behind where the strong enemies will teleport so I can catch them right as they show up and prevent them to cause any damage while the small ones distract the enemy swarm before I can send in reinforcements. All dead.
What am I missing? I feel like it doesn´t matter what I try, I just can´t win because numbers.
Any tips? Am I missing something basic?
>>283528432
Sins of a solar empire
>>283531678
That game is amazing, the gameplay still holds up pretty well today too.
>>283532670
what bugs me most in Empire Earth is lack of speed adjustements (digging that iron takes ages...), and very limited camera height.
Other than that idea of making Age of Empires clone that goes from stone age to mecha age was brilliant
Is Dwarf Fortress an RTS?
>>283533903
You can target individual weapons on the ships. try taking out their dangerous weapons first.
>>283533903
hey anonthe enemy scales with how many ships you have
>>283534292
that's only true for Homeworld 2
I miss Urban Assault
>>283533903
You're missing that the game tries to give you a "challenge" by increasing the opposition to match your current fleet. If you maximize what you've got entering each level you will get your ass handed to you.
If you want to win with a mega-fleet you'll need to be cheesy: leave salvage ships hanging around where those beam frigates appear. The non-buildable beam ships are insanely powerful and should be stolen at every opportunity.
Friendly reminder that RTT>RTS.
GIF related, a tipical RTT battle:
Player A set up a good defensive position, no enemy tank could get into a position to spot the AT gun before it was too late, he even left 2 soldiers in a cover nearby to serve as security in case enemy infantry got close, only things he might have done better is position the AT gun a little to the rear or in better concealed position.
Player B did everything wrong, he sent infantry running in the middle of the street, infantry should only move in short rushes from cover to cover, he also moved the tank forward without properly scouting that alley, he should have sent some infantry moving stealthily through the buildings to discover and flank any ambush.
The audience/players feels dumb because they can't understand what's going on and hate the game.
In an average RTS match, the winning player looked up the currently best build order or macro on the internet and was able to click orders at a faster rate than the losing player, the battle was already decided 5 minutes in, the last 45 minutes were just the 2 players going through the motions till the winning player massed a huge enough blob to rush the enemy base.
The audience/players don't really get what happened, but they are happy because they got to see a huge robot army and colourful explosions.
>>283534213
no, its more a sim game, like dungeon keeper and the likes
>>283534501
you can literally do the same in RTSs
>>283534213
Definitely not. Still a great game if you have the patience to get in. Read the quick guide article on the wiki.
>>283534221
>>283534292
>>283534492
Didn´t know that. Then again, I was playing the first one. Don´t want to get with the second until I´m done with the first.
How do you do it, then? Destroy everything, then create it all again at the start of the next mission?
>>283528432
Close Combat.
Any of them.
Apparently it wasn't very well received at release, but from time to time I enjoy blowing through a game of Star Wars Rebellion. It's pretty awesome being able blow up Rebel planets with a Death Star, or running around blowing shit up with super star destroyers
>>283534501
this is bait and pasta
>>283529196
Remove base building.
Include infinite creep spawning.
Control only over 1 unit.
One map.
5v5 multiplayer.
How do you think guys, can my idea turn into decent game?
>dat feel when no one remembers Codename: Panzers
>>283534501
>Starcraft is all RTS
>>283534501
Men of War is boring as fuck.
Single player is total crap and multi player is full of eastern europeans.
>>283534575
>you can literally do the same in RTSs
That is not true because that you can't focus on the battle because you have to babysit resource units and manage the base, also the combat mechanics of the average RTS don't lead well to complex engagements.
>>283533203
>download custom mission with Battle of Waterloo
>map almost entirely filled with units
>still no perfomance loss
>>283529127
RA3 was terrible, CnC3 is a 7yr old game still being played today.
>>283534605
Well, that's the cheesiest method. You should still grab all the resources each level, but don't build up a mega-fleet. Don't be afraid to scrap old ships to build stuff that is more useful for your current scenario.
The game generally matches your fleet size for the slugfest missions, so it's going to come down to outmaneuvering the AI and having a composition that counters the AI fleet.
Some missions your fleet is completely meaningless; it's not always about having the most lasers pointing at the enemy.
>>283534893
>because that you can't focus on the battle because you have to babysit resource units and manage the base
GETGUD
Supreme Commander is pretty good. Not sure if it's "slow-paced", as time is an important factor in gameplay. There is definitely a learning curve, but after you learn the basics it can be a real comfy game.
And if you are wondering, most games are determined by strategy, not APM.
>>283534746
I liked it.
It was the best blitzkrieg-like RTS, imo better than blitzkrieg itself.
>>283532797
EE3 is worst game I've ever played, no seriously, this shit is beyond bad
>>283534746
I remember this, it was pretty okay all things considered. Cutscenes were hilarious though.
>>283534501
I love MoW, but I hate this fucking pasta so much.
Friendly reminder that this unit made C&C3 that much more awesome.
>>283535216
>the combat mechanics of the average RTS don't lead well to complex engagements.
I feel you OP.
I loved RON, but hated the fact I had to clickspam by way up ages for better units.
Id rather take my time and build my empire. Ron would have been a perfect empire building game
>>283535754
>average RTS
never played it, when was it released?
>>283532394
RoL was awesome.
Rough around the edges, sure, but at least it wasn't another historical or scifi RTS. It dared to be different.
>>283533209
Yeah, there are catapults, only they´re called onagers. Either one of the later versions (castle age or so) has flaming ammo, or you can give it to them with an uprade, and this alows them to destroy trees and clear a path if you force them to attack ground.
>>283535249
In my opionion for a "realistic" RTS Codename: Panzers was too much about ballance rather than realism. But that's just matter of taste.
>>283533727
Tower defence games
>>283531323
>relic
>dead
not dead, only slightly retarded.
>>283530973
Go home shill.
Get cancer.
Get raped.
Get AIDS.
Get your fingers cut off.
Die.
Your whole family should die too.
>>283538089
wow
rude
>>283534836
>I have a shitty teste
>And I must post
>>283534667
>Implying that any critique of metagaming and action-per-minute based games is bait
Kill yourself, reincarnate and start playing better games in your new life
Guys, supreme commander literally chokes my CPU on my i5 laptop CPU, on the first mission even in the forged alliance
Almost every RTS against AI.
>>283538942
>forged alliance
There's your problem, vanilla runs much better performance wise on my PC. Fucking Forged Alliance
>>283534741
no man it sounds like some kind of bad custom map in fucking starcraft.
>>283529008
RA3 and the new C&C games are all shit unless you're a proto-assfaggots junkie and want korean level clickfests
then I don't know because I don't do gay shit like that
![593176-924080_20040825_001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZqC7fAs.jpg "593176-924080_20040825_001[1].jpg")
>There will never ever be an actual sequel to Rise of Nations
>>283529127
Say that to my fucking face and not online and see what happens.
RA3 was absolute shit. CnC 3 is one of the more solid RTS games I've played.
>>283530403
>pick up grey goo full price
>figure I might as well go for it, if nothing else, the money might show there's still interest in the genre
>the style is mostly pretty great, with heavy campaign elements and briefings
>the characters are all boring
>the setting is boring
>the units are all stupid looking
I tried really hard to have fun with it, and the maps are at least really pretty to look at
but I can't get invested in it at all, it feels like some kind of wannabe Avatar bullshit, with the poor aliens getting assfucked by humanity and the grey goo
could play past the 3rd or 4th level, so I don't know if it changes
fucking EA and blizzard and assfaggots shitting up the genre
RUSE
Battle for the Middle-Earth 2
AoE2 (discovered it like two days ago)
CCG
That's about it, all other RTSs are shit
>>283535683
that image is gay and you're a fucking faggot
RON > All other RTS games
>>283528560
I was a master level SC2 player and my heart rate when meeting a player of equal skill was higher than I've ever experienced in my life. No physical activity has raised my heart rate to that level, not even being in fights against people who I new were dangerous and they outnumbered me.
motherfucking supcom!
Conquest is fun, big maps and challenge, Starcraft on space, but still fun.
>>283540273
man, I love/hate supcom
everything about it is great, I had a blast playing it
it always really, really bothered me though, that there literally were no deaths per game, except for when you kill the giant avatar robot thing of the other team's
it doesn't feel like a real war unless soldiers are willing to lay down their lives for your cause
robots just fighting robots is just a really evolved form of pretend
>>283539721
I just want a remake with fully updated 3D graphics at this point.
>>283540605
I want this for any good RTS game
>there might never be another game as on-topic and hilarious as C&C Generals was
I can't believe they managed to get suicide bombers and hijackers into the game
>the little portrait of the hijacker was some dude in a turban waving a box-cutter around
>China's big thing was hackers and hacking
>Generals predicted the Sony hacks and all that other hacking shit
Act of Aggression looks like it might come close, but it doesn't seem to have a true "terrorist" side>Free AK47s for EVERYONE!
>>283540551
>not sending droves of SCUs to their deaths every other longer game
>>283540896
Eh, it's a spiritual sequel to Act of War so instead of terrorists they have a Militaires-Sans-Frontieres type international mercenary league using a mix of slavshit and euroshit.
>>283534893
>That is not true because that you can't focus on the battle because you have to babysit resource units and manage the base
>you can't focus on the battle because you have to do other things
You can't focus because you suck shit, sorry man. I kind of suck too, I'll admit, but that doesn't mean the more complex game genre is somehow worse, it's just harder to play well.
>>283541091
>Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
yeah that was my impression
I don't mind it if it's cool, and honestly the previews of building construction/resource gathering look great
I miss the simple charm and comedy of the C&C games, though I think that era is gone forever
>>283540896
How does Act of Aggression play? Is it more traditional RTS compared to stuff like Wargame, which in every screen I see it looks like a boring as hell icon simulator?
>>283541625
Pretty much a Spiritual Successor to Act of War
>>283541728
Which itself is a C&C Generals clone.
>>283541728
Never played that either, so I'm afraid you'll have to explain.
>TFW No RoN 2
>>283541875
FUCK
>>283541814
>>283541797
>>283541728
>>283541625
my understanding is that it plays like a usual RTS
was just reading a RPS article about how each faction uses different vehicles to gather resources (trucks, choppers, etc.) and that AoA is meant to fill the gap left by C&C Generals 2
article (I don't feel like pastebin and it's RPS so whatever):http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/01/28/command-conquer-calculate-act-of-aggression/
>>283541968
So Close.
>>283541875
Different question; are there any hands-on 4x games more like Civ meets RTS?
Haven't played an rts since booting this up on my 286.
Did I miss anything?
>>283542308
RoN is literally Civ meets RTS
>>283542352
World Trade Center got rekt by some pissed Muslims
>>283542445
But RoN still takes blowing the fuck out of each other as a given.
There's no room for jolly cooperation
>>283542219
That's not Rise of Nations 2
>>283542032
This sounds pretty cool. A shame they could not just randomize the entire map but I suppose that's harder for maps more detailed and structured than Age of Empires'
I started playing Company of Heroessingleplayera few days ago and I'm playing it really slowly, inspecting terrain, doing preparatory mortar shelling before attacking, building sandbags and fortifying my positions.
Am I playing this game wrong?
I loved that Act of War used live-action cutscenes just like C&C, it's unlikely but I'm hoping for the same in AoA
>>283543654
Eugen have almost no budget now due to Focus, their publisher, so I wouldn't count on it.
>>283528632
You are my nigga, the $6 I spent on the GOG version to finally get to play it again were the best $6 I've ever spent
>>283543823
True, but they were hardly an AAA developer under Atari in 2005
>>283543519
Absolutely.
But i think playing CoH "wrong" is more enjoyable than doing it properly to be honest.
>>283543973
>Absolutely.
Thought so.
But I'm having fun so I'll kepp at it, at least until the game forces me to be quick and frantic.
>>283528432
I got a chance and pirated Company of Heroes, and I have to say I love it. Now before I go ahead and get it on steam. Which other definitive versions is worth getting? Do they all play relatively the same or what?
I have about 40 dollars im willing to use on a 3ds game. What should I get?
>>283544361
You should probably get the fuck out of this thread
>>283529008
Red Alert 3 is GOAT. If anyone tells you its shit, it's because they are casuals and got hella rekt and then look to blame the aesthetics and the live action cutscenses. I have never seen anyone who haters RA3 give a valid reason as why that has anything to do with gameplay. Only real problem was the online infrastructure was shit.
>>283544361
No RTS games on 3DS that I know of, but the Advance wars Series is decent at least.
Are there any WW1 RTS games? At all?
>>283545215
I wish
>>283545215
>RTS
>sit in trenches and shell each other for the entire game
good one
>Mfw RTT killed RTS
>mfw /v/ doesn't know the difference
>mfw /v/ likes RTT more than RTS
>mfw /v/ whines about RTS being dead
>mfw /v/ killed RTS
>>283545215
Does this count?
http://armorgames.com/play/2267/warfare-1917
>>283545574
nothing killed this rts
>>283545560
There were some pretty damn intense battles in WW1, before and during the trenches phase.
>>283545719
Aside from the sequel
>>283545821
t-there is no sequel
>>283545215
One Blitzkrieg Clone is all that I'm aware of.
>>283534634
> Tfw you will never give the matrixgames jews a single dollar
>>283545867
It's alright anon
>>283545560
>>283545774
>Everytime WW1 is mentioned in any /v/ thread ever we get these two posts respectively
You fags are way too predictable
>>283545698
>pasta
>>283529127
CNC3 still looks and plays better than GayGoo.
>>283546142
CnC3/KW was has the best CnC online experience
It's much better balanced than RA3 or any previous CnC installments, that weren't balanced at all.
>>283546110
>accurate post
>n-n-no its p-p-pasta
>>283542118
>>283541875
This really hurts.
>>283545215
The Entente: Battlefields World War I, but it's MEH
>>283528432
Just stick to turn based strategy games you casual mongoloid.
>>283541358
>more complex game genre
Complexity doesn't always translate into depth, having to follow a build order is just a chore that you must do while trying to play the game.
Name a RTS with complex Line of sight and stealth mechanics, cover system, damage model.
>>283547258
MoW:AS1/2
>>283547258
CoH
>having to follow a build order is just a chore that you must do while trying to play the game.
Nobody has to follow a build order you moron, it's just that in multiplayer games where you do not begin with intel on your enemy there exist certain optimal starting maneuvers which might as well be planned out in advance to maximize effectiveness, no matter if you're going for the rocket launcher in quake or going for a scout rush in AoE 2.
Populous: The Beginning
RTS tend to encourage blobbing, rigid build orders and stale gameplay because they don't have a combat system complex enough to reward good maneuvering, use of terrain and unit positioning.
>>283547759
>CoH
I'll give you that one, but it is because it moved away from a classic RTS style to being more like a RTT.
>>283547382
>MoW:AS1/2
that is a straight up RTT
>>283548841
Cossacks 1/2
>>283548841
>RTS tend to encourage blobbing, rigid build orders and stale gameplay because they don't have a combat system complex enough to reward good maneuvering, use of terrain and unit positioning.
this rts disagrees with you
>>283532394
Great argument, you don´t seem crazy at all, your opinion is very valid and grounded in facts too.
Keep calm and take a sip from your bottle.
>>283548841
War Wind had, among many really cool ideas, a combat system where terrain mattered. Shame it was buggy and clunky.
>>283543089
it´s the successor.
>>283548841
You are exclusively talking about starcraft2 and its imitators(?).
SO why hasn't there been any good original fantasy RTSs in a while?
It feels like the Warcraft series was the last one.
>>283549664
Starcraft encourages the usage of maneuvering, limited terrain feature and unit positioning though. Not on SupCom/TA or some kind of wargame rtt level, but more than most of the RTS out there. Certainly more than CoH1/2, Petroglyph games, GC1/2, AoE1/2/3 etc
>>283549201
Legit question, how does positioning influence the outcome? Doesn´t seem to be a game that adds any kind of bonus or whatever to a flanking like in Total War and stuff like that.
Also, better get SC or SC Forged Alliance?
>>283549201
>start playing SupCom for the first time
>on the 2nd (3rd?) UEF mission, the snow one
>building defensive fortifications in the large pass to the south east of spawn because the Cybran keep coming that way
>T2 PD, T2 AA, a good amount of T1 PD for smaller units, a labyrinth of walls, and overlapping shields
>cybran attack my defenses for the first time, their force is MUCH bigger than their previous attacks, and I'm giddy to see how my defenses work
>notice that my T2 PD isn't doing damge, nor are my T1 PD
>the shots are dissapearing half way to the oncoming units
>on closer inspection, I realize there's a hill there
>I soon learn about the cartographic map view
>I soon learn how every shot is actually a fully simulated particle, and only does damage if it actually hits an enemy
best RTS
I lurk these threads from time to time but I wanted to ask is anyone up for playing some RTS games with each other?
I'm thinking maybe Dawn of War (Dark Crusade), Age of Empires 2, StarCraft Brood War, Warcraft 3 (or some custom games of it), Rome: Total War, or maybe a Command and Conquer game (I'm not sure how to get online to work since Westwood Online is gone, but we can try it with Hamachi.
>>283550305
I'm up for a DoW game, that is, if I remember how to play
>>283549382
AW FUK. First time seeing someone mention this game.
>dem vehicles and buildings
>dem races
>dat atmosphere
Adored this game. Still adore it, conceptually. Can't play it today without it crashing, though. Not that it holds up.
>>283532797
EE1 + the expansion was the one good one of the Empire Earth series
EE2 was shit and from what I heard EE3 was even worse
>>283550305
Oh and not really competitive play, just finding bros who like these kind of games and don't have anyone to play them with.
>>283550135
You don't need bonuses for positioning to be valuable, the position is the bonus in itself.
Is SC2K an RTS?
>>283547258
Dawn of War has most of those, though the line of sight stuff is typical RTS fog of war.
>>283550438
EE2 wasn't shit, it was just a subpar RoN knockoff.
>>283550135
forged alliance with forged alliance forever
you can't hit enemies when obstructed by a hill or stuff. clever positioning let you reck your enemies while they can't hit you. and bonus for flanking and shit is not needed because killing the slow artillery is reward enough.
>>283550156
I expected some monkeylord walking all over you, but I guess better than nothing :^)
>>283550305
Only RTS netplay I have set up at the moment is for a game I seriously doubt anyone in this thread would want to play.
>>283550402
Cool, you want to meet up on TeamSpeak or just add each other on Steam at first?
>>283550135
SC FA is pretty much just SC with a load of extra shit and a better UI
Unless you care about the campaign just go straight to SC FA
>>283547258
Dawn of War
>>283550305
DoW with Apocalypse modpack
Early CnC games are playable through OpenRA, CnC3 servers still work and RA2/TS has cutsom servers
Hamachi a shit, use Evolve
Does anyone still play Age of Empires III online here?
>>283550305
supreme commancer
>>283550557
I just hated it, it was worse than EE1 in almost every aspect somehow
>>283550613
I really don't do 1v1 games (4+ man FFA / 2man teams or bust), but if more people inna thread express interest I'd be happy to join in.
>>283550520
It's a city building tycoon
>>283535237
thinking about buying supreme commander again, should i get 1 or 2? i heard 2 wasn't as good as 1
>>283550581
I don't think I'm understanding you, are you referring to needing RTS Netplay for Command and Conquer specifically?
>>283550305
this >>283550745
Seton's clutch or bust
>>283550745
For a second I thought you're TA4Life himself
>>283550889
SupCom1 + forged alliance
