Pic related just shipped and it's on the way to my doorstep as we speak, never gotten a chance to play an SMT game, so what am I in for /v/?
Bumping for hope
Bumping for no buyers remorse
>>277560721
Its fun
A less good SMT 3. In my opinion, the persona games are better. The characters in that game are bland as hell, but the game plays pretty much like any SMT game. If you like turn based, you'll like that game.
a shitty story with douchey characters and repetitive gameplay that's only meant for long-time fans of the series
Hell yeah, thanks guys, I had the opportunity to buy this or persona q but SMT IV was half off so I took the chance, still looking into persona q though, looks pretty awesome
>>277560721
It's good. Like a grimdark Pokemon. Interesting battle mechanics. Decent graphics, good music.
It starts out pretty hard, especially if you're unfamiliar with SMT's battle mechanics, but after a while it gets pretty easy. The hardest part is navigating Tokyo, so don't feel ashamed to look up a map.
Story is so-so. There's 4 endings so lots of replay value.
I can get into any Pokemon-esque experience, has anyone here played persona q that might be able to shed some light onto how that plays and whether or not I should dig deeper into the persona series on my psp
>>277561672
OP, I'll debate this anon on the basis that this was my first SMT and actually found it really engaging and not repetitive in the slightest.
After having played other (older) entries in the series, SMTIV isn't the best, but it's definitely shat on to an unnecessary degree by /v/. It's a perfectly respectable and imaginative RPG with plenty of interesting shit going on, from both a gameplay and story perspective. Plus the soundtrack is kickass. The only really noteworthy negative I can come up for it is that some of the monster designs created for this game suck ass.
Characters are eh. Music is pretty banging at times.
>>277562691
What the fuck is wrong with you? The music is awful and panders to edgy 13yo who like metal.
>>277562407
You ever played etrian odyssey?
Its pretty much exactly that.
Vanilla first person dungeon crawling, but with demon fusion.
It's fun, but I wouldn't suggest playing it before Persona 3 and 4.Yes you should get more into Persona on the PSPMore specifically, a PSP emulator. PSP load times + long special attacks make speed-up important in the earlier PSP personas
>>277563613
>I only play games with classical music for the educated gentleman such as myself
>>277561517
>persona games are better
Nice bait. You clearly haven't played them.
The first part of the game is going to kick your ass, but once you get access to a wider variety of skills it will become easier.
Just remember the most important rules of SMT:
>Buff
>Debuff
>Abuse enemy weaknesses
>FUSE FUSE FUSE
In other words, you're in for a lot of fun, especially if you enjoy mythology.
Good SMT game that's better enjoyed after experiencing 1/2/SJ because of fan service.
Has a fucking amazing OST, and really good atmosphere and world building.
Story is okay and characters are generic SMT characters that sometimes go a bit too retarded, but otherwise it's enjoyable.
Game goes back to law vs chaos which I honestly prefer over the system used in nocturne.
Still a decent introduction to the series, and you might not enjoy it as much if played directly after nocturne.
Well sounds like I've been on the right path then, it's kind of fucking surprising that this thread has stayed civil and actually answered my questions, thanks everyone for not immediately shit posting and making me regret asking you guys for advice.
>>277563613
What are you on about? Guitar automatically means metal to you? I'm not a metal fan and I found the soundtrack to be pretty great.
Dark Souls of Persona games.
>>277560721
Build straight Dex or Straight Mag. I'm more fond of the Mag route but Dex does literally everything. Ignore Str and make sure to sub stat Agi or Luck.
Fusing is crazy weird if you're unused to SMT, but SMTIV makes it much easier. Soundtrack is pretty good, story is average and well built but the characters are one-dimensional and hurt the story a lot.
>>277560721
A very traditional style dungeon crawl with some pokemon mechanics. It starts out stupid hard (shit can one shot you), but once you get going it's a decent challenge. Music is awesome, and setting interesting. Talking to demons can be pretty funny sometimes.
SMT 1 and 2-esque story and feel in a more modern engine
if you're expecting being a demon while yelling WE SACRIFICE THE SON OF HEAVEN MANS GREATEST GLIMPSE OF FIRE RED
and having daisojou cover your ass, this isn't your game
also, soilent green is people
>>277564816
>THAT, mister! I want THAT
>>277565267
>submit
>submit
>submit
>>277564764
Adding on to this, you could even make a pure Luck build viable if you're feeling bold.
It's actually a lot of fun because with high Luck you can easily abuse the Hama and Mudo spells for insta-kills. Oh, and you'll have an easy time with demon negotiation too.
I wonder how many times i reset to save point
word to the wise
fundraise + paralyze spell = free money
>>277565613
0 as long as you have play coins
>>277564760
You asked?
>50 Str
>150 Dx
>7 Ma
>85 Ag
>105 Lu
should i only put into Dx at this point also did i fuck up with so much Lu ;_;
>Debuff him all the way down
>Exploit the fuck out of him
>Think I'm winning
>Ancient curse
>Rocks my ass
Jesus
>>277566150
There is no thing as too much luck, right now you just have to abuse Titanomachia and at the end of game you can farm items that rises luck.
>>277566587
He would have been a nightmare if I didn't have concentrate, debilitate, and megidola
So boys, I've started up SMT I for the first time, I've got Nocturne, SMT IV, SJ, P3, P4, a little bit of DDS, and a little bit of Raidou 1 under my belt. Will this game fuck me? Anything I should remember?
>>277560721
You're in for a very hard game at first and then a super easy game later on.
>>277567267
MAG and INT are like resistance in dark souls
Is there any good way to counter almighty attacks other than to tank up, fighting lucifers 2nd phase and other than the MC my whole team wipes when he does like 3 almighty attack in a row.
>>277565880
This was probably the worst part about the game. Should have just went straight to a game over screen.
I never finished it. Not knowing where to go all the time kinda wore on me.
>>277567383
If the the series has taught you nothing else, it's that buffs/debuffs make or break the battle
>All this Persona recommendation
I love the mainline SMT games but can't really enjoy P3/4.
Just play the game as much as you like, and if you're hankering for more and if you feel likenot devouring your friendstry out Persona; otherwise there's a load of previous SMT games for you to enjoy.
There are some nice mostly spoiler-free guides and FAQs on the /smt/ general on /vg/
>>277560721
First boss is a challenge, everything after is a fucking cakewalk, even on hard.
>>277567365
I kinda figured as much what with the MC not being able to use magic, what about law and chaos heroes? useless on them too?
>>277567553
>not knowing where to go
>literally only have to back track 1 terminal from time to time
>>277567628
Persona 2 and 3 are really the only good ones. P4 being the worst.
I still like SMT better though.
What's with all the awkward use of "gotten" today?
>>277567742Minotaur smirks
>>277568503
>>277561517
>persona games are better
kek
only if you don't like games and love shitty waifu simulators
>>277560721
What are you in for? Wrecking sht of medusa, flattering her to make her weak whil hearing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik
In my oppinion a quite good SMT which has more in common with the first one than the rest.
So why didn't Shoji Meguro and Kazuma Kaneko work on SMT 4?
The art and music was still good, but why did they drop them for this?
>>277568503
Walter casts agi!
>>277567573
also this. Debuffs can swing boss fights in your favor so hard. Debilitate is your friend.
better than every casualsona game combined
still not the best SMT game
>>277566587
That stupid Zealot special demon who can null phys. I shit you not, i had a Succubus on last legs and my zealot without mana. Still i managed too kill him even before he fakes his own death.
>>277566587
The only bad thing about ancient curse is paralysis.
SMT4 is pretty great, but SMT Bizarre Adventure is the best.
>>277569719
I really want to play it, but it was never released in europe which pushes the prices upward. Everything over 40 bucks is too much. Wish it would get one of those DeSu threathments.
>>277569719
For me this is he best smt game
the thing is these games are considered lame trash in japan
you, the american, only find them fun because of the hot anime girls and lingo
pokemon/digimon/persona/blazblue are to japan what call of duty is to america and viced-versa
>>277570010
>being this much of a weeaboo faggot
Why the fuck should I care what Japan thinks?
>>277570121
It was an anti weaboo post dipshit
>>277570010
[citation needed]I don't even play Persona but I'm calling your bullshit
>>277570010
>all SMT is persona guys
>I can't read guys
fucking skub supporters
>>277570282
Why is Pixie so sexy? This perfect blue leotard is one of the reasons she is always in my starter party...
>>277570526
I begrudge fusing Pixie and Angel away.
>>277570010
the ammount of persona-related shit released in Japan proves you wrong
also I don't think you realise japan is even more about waifus and fanservice than any western otaku community
stop talking out of your ass
>>277569719
I'm replaying SJ right now and I died in front of a save point a moment ago losing like an hour of progress
fuck me
GET THE CASH GRINDING DLC
The exp and app points one are survivable without, but you need a good source of money to make any headway in summoning and fusing demons later in the game.
>>277571085
It's okay.At least you aren't in Sector E... Right?
>>277571208
>app points one
unless you're a filthy completionist, since you won't finish filling upbest girlBurroughs without the DLC.
>>277571208
>GET THE CASH GRINDING DLC
Nigga, are you fucking serious? All he needs is to never give demons Macca and he's set. No need to make a criminally easy game even easier.
>"SMT isn't bad, it's just different"
MY DEMONS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT
>>277571664
>a little
>not a bit
SMT:IV was actually my introduction to the series. It was fun and never too difficult. The only part that was actually challenging were the first few missions. Story is alright. It's not fantastic but it's not totally boring. The OST and gameplay though is worth the price alone.
>>277565968
>SMTIV lacks many of the elements that made Persona 3 so engrossing
Why are Persona fans so retarded?
>>277565968
Please tell me this picture is a joke.
>>277571903
>The OST and gameplay though is worth the price alone.
You are not shitting me on this one Anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPYTkFqH6w
>>277571961
The better question is why SMT hasn't had any refreshing changes to gameplay and story?
After awhile you have to consider why SMT has to ride on Fire Emblems coattails and not Persona.
>>277572174
Oh, like Persona had anything refreshing after recycling the same plot except add one girl, or turn it into a fighting game sequel or crossover with Persona 3 characters.
a good game and god tier OST
>>277572135
This might be my favorite random battle music of all time.
>all of that shit happening right before going toblasted tokyo
>shit's getting real in the story
>get into a battle
>mfw
>>277569897
>it was never released in europe which pushes the prices upward
Are you retarded? Games are cheaper in murica.
>>277572996
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PDKYOF3Nk
The old games already had a great soundtrack. If the fight LAW against CHAOS sounds this good i won´t care.
>>277573129
Not if you have to pay 30 bucks extra for shipment.
why does SMT have consistent god tier OST?
>>277572363
Exactly, Persona can build on itself and become more.
SMT cannot. It can only exist as one off stand alone games with no significant changes to game play to make it more interesting.
>>277572704
>>277573473But I knew that, anon.
SMT1 is so cool conceptually, but I can't ever get pastKongokai.It's just so boring.
>>277573918
Why would anyone want SMT to change what it is? It's a Dungeon Crawler through and through like Wizardry and it still shines with the theme/setting alone.
If you wanted Spin-off versions, you have Devil Summoner which is still SMT minus the post-apocalyptic theme.
Picked this game up yesterday. Enjoying quite a bit even though I'm dying every so often.
Really surprised me since I didn't like Nocturne all that much.
>>277574676
Play coins make dying not awful.
Especially if you're not used to saving so often.
>>277573129
You dick, i did it i ordered SMT:SJ from ebay.
thank god that the price was quite ok with only 30 bucks.
>>277572704
I don't get the Nicholas cage bit.
>>277575161
Good on you, pal. I hope you enjoy it.
>>277570010
Japan here
No they arent
I'm about to visitFUCKING GAMESTOPto buy SMT IV. is it worth the buy? I also wanted Strange Journey, but I wonder if I should save my money to buy both.
Strange Journey is the best SMT, only lacking a god tier ost.
SJ is everything an SMT game should strive to be. Extremely challenging, extremely fun, fucking fantastic mechanics, engaging maps and dungeons, great demon choices, and and fantastic overall story.
>>277576171
If you're new to the series buy SMT 4 first and then go to SJ.
I like 4 way more than SJ.
SJ feels like an EO game (yes I know SMT was doing EO gameplay back in 1987 but still, EO does it better), I like that the series is now its own thing.
>>277576185
Demon Co-Op and Sources are pretty lackluster mechanics.
>>277576185
>lacking a god tier OST
Hahaha, fucking please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5sRGGKB7I
>>277576185
>lacking god tier ost
nigga apart from normal battle everything in sj is god tier, and even that is after 30 secs
>>277576665
>>277576836
HAH HEEHOHA. HO HA. HEEHOHOHA... HOHA.
>>277577341
I don't see your point.
>>277573473
>Not if you have to pay 30 bucks extra for shipment.
I must have imagined of all these games I bought on play-asia with free shipping then.
>>277575161
It's currently cheaper on VG+.
Only 20 canadian dollars on videogames+. It's tiem to buy it.
https://www.videogamesplus.ca/shin-megami-tensei-standard-edition-3ds-p-21726.html
>>277577580
Strange journey has atmospheric and fitting music, but it's far from "great" music.
>>277577956
I alread did. 30 bucks from germany with no shipping costs. Have played it a bit on emulator before so im in for a threat i guess
