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I heard it has a lot of h-scenes, is it truth?
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I heard it has a lot of h-scenes, is it truth?
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>>269249249
I don't know if vn are games.
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Google it, you might find your answer.


Also, >>>/jp/
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No, there are only a couple per route. Realta Nua has them removed anyway, though you can re-enable them with the fan patch.
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theres only 1 or 2 per route until heavens feel.
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>>269249249
Theres a versions without it
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>>269249249
The absolute worst written H-scenes in recorded history, yes.

>Tohsaka's anus
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>>269250152
im going to masturbate to them and there is literally nothing you can do about it

fate/stay mad nerd
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>>>/a/
>>>/jp/
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>>269250152
>Implying you would fug this cutie
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>>269250602
/a/ would just repost these gems
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I started playing it today. I will make a thread in 2 years when i have 100% it to let you know.
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>>269252075
>2 years
Dude it took me like 4 days 100% all routes
Get gud scrub.
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>>269252352
Are you talking game time or real time?
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>>269252352
I can't even beat the first real boss battle against the little girl...
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>>269252075
>I will make a thread in 2 years when i have

Step it up, senpai.
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>>269252614
why was the alt end of UBW such a pain in the ass to get compared to heavens feels alt end.
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is there a patch that puts the H-scenes and the Realta Nua stuff, or is that already in the game
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>>269252810
Because TM knew you'd want your harem end and made you work for it.

>Literally an ending where Rin lets you keep Seibah so long as you fuck them both.

They knew what they were doing.

>>269252909
The only translated version is the one with the H-scenes. The Realta Nua patch adds the extra content but doesn't remove the scenes. The scenes have no audio though because that's how they were originally done.
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>>269252909
Fate Stay Night Realta Nua: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=427133

Translation patch: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ygpumuc7t4ib1ug/Fate+Stay+Night+Realta+Nua+English.rar
Create a folder in your Documents called "faterealtanua_savedata" and place the .xp3 files in it.

Install AppLocale or change your system locale to Japanese.

You need some codecs too. https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/releases/download/0.62/LAVFilters-0.62-Installer.exe

Make sure to play "-FATE-" first, "UBW" second, "HF" must be last.
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>>269253264
What is Realta Nua?
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>>269253814
was originally a ps2 port with the true ending for the saber route, vita port got anime intros by Ufotable, the studio currently doing the current Fate anime

god i hope they remake the other two routes like their doing with UBW
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>>269253814
The deluxe version. Has a remastered soundtrack, new intros, enhanced scenes, new scenes and other little tidbits.
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>>269254482
>fanfiction ending for the saber route
fixed that for you
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>>269254482
>god i hope they remake the other two routes like their doing with UBW
Shows how much you pay attention, they announced UBW and the HF movie at the same time.
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>>269254482
oh really thats fucking awesome, just knew there was gonna be an anime of UBW

now they just need to announce fate route and it'll be golden

>>269254987
i liked it
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>>269255002
but isnt it a movie, it'll probably be cut content gallore like the UBW movie, a TV series would be a little better
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>>269256186
Yes. It will be fit in either one or two movies. Don't expect new scenes, expect things to be taken away to fit into the time limitations.
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>try adding the Vita soundtrack
>tracks are hit or miss
welp.
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>>269257260
The battle themes are great. Everything else seems overdone.

Mighty Wind, Light and Dark, Sword of Promised Victory are fantastic.
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Did the HA patch ever finish?
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Tohsaka's anus is a lewd nightmare.
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>>269253264
There's a realta nua translation patch that doesn't add any of H Scenes realta nua also makes Shirou a little less of a chauvinist.
Made just for your christian sensibilities
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>>269257620
Yes 100 percent
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the trick is to not fap at all until you get to an h-scene in whatever VN you're reading. After a week or so it doesn't matter how bad the art/writing is. And for some reason the slow buildup and relation to the character just makes it all the better.

>>269257620

there's a 100% patch out but the quality is still all over the place. For the most part it's fine but once in a while you're run into landmines like a google translated scene with 'translator notes'. And by notes I mean the 'translator' putting shit like "wtf are these people eating XD" at the bottom of the page. I'm not even making that up
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>>269257703
Better yet, if you get the right patch you can pick and choose what you want in the game.
>English text (of course)
>H Scenes
>Vita OPs
>Vita OST
>ingame flowchart.
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>>269249249
ARCHER IS SHIROU FROM THE FUTURE

SAKURA IS RIDER'S MASTER
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>>269257703

I'm glad this existed because it got my slightly normalfag friend to finally read the VN. He stopped after Fate though, since he's just gonna watch the UBW adaptation and finish the VN later. Probably the smart thing to do honestly.
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>>269249249
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=fate%2fstay_night+game_cg
Here. Now you don't have to bother "playing" the "game".
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>Tfw I will never give Rin the jackhammer
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>>269258008
Fuck. I'm getting real desperate here, I might just go for it.
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As far as classes go.

Lancer=Archer>Rider>Assasin>Caster=Berserker>Saber

Sabers a shit, a big boring shit.
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>>269258275
I ripped all the image assets out of the VN, you can DL them here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/jgjhdy28027qqn5/Images.rar
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OFFICIAL F/SN SERVANTS TIER LIST

1. Gilgamesh
2. Berserker
3. Saber
4. Lancer
5. Archer
6. Caster
7. Rider
8. Real Assassin
9. Fake Assassin
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>>269258812
>FA
>lowest
please stop lying.
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>>269250956
They would be right
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>>269259009
>Tfw the Crunchyroll subtitles have Ilya saying "Master" when she clearly says "Onee-chan"

I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic subtitle or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
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>>269258812
>No Avenger

Your bumhole is defenceless!
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Lancer and Fake Assassin are the true bro servants, all other servants a shit.
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>>269258464
>Lancer

sure.
If you want to die a horrible death that is
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>>269249346
>fsn
>/jp/

Don't think so tim.
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Friendly reminder that Rin best girl.
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>>269259383
It's only the F/Z and F/SN Lancers that have bad luck, the class is great for the most part.
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>>269259534
All F/SN girls are pretty boring shit. Maybe the teacher or the loli are passable, Rider is actually pretty good.

The game as a whole would be better if there were no romance shit.
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>>269259615
>Only the arguably most relevant lancers have bad Luck

and F/A Vlad
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>>269259785
>Maybe the teacher
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>>269259946
>there will never be a Taiga route
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>>269259785
>Rider is actually pretty good.
Great taste anon.
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Last long ass VN I read was muv luv and I thought that was pretty cash.
How does this compare (if it does at all)
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>>269260116
Why even live
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>>269259946
Would you a Taiga?
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>tfw the original anime is shit but this made you hype as fuck when you first watched it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGDB57CdWc
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>>269260351
It scares me to think there are people who wouldn't.
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>>269260445
>That Engrish
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>>269260445
The original anime is what drew interest into this series for me. It was the idea of Shirou starting off as the bottom bitch, then rising to the top with his main man Saber, and eventually overcoming himself.

What the fuck was Heaven's Feel, right?
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>>269260351
Is this even a question
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so what are the odds of Ufotable doing other Fate stuff after UBW and HF?
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>>269260530
>didnt falled as soon as she entered the room

Confirmed for fake-universe...or something, i dunno. It seems fishy
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>>269261246
They animated HA's Vita opening, so that's something.
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>>269261132
>starting off as the bottom bitch, then rising to the top
Nigga that's 90% of all stories in everything ever. It's called an "underdog" protagonist.

>>269261246
Like what? The PSP game? Apocalyptica?
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>>269261278
Saving that bit for the BDs. There are confirmed parts cut from just about each episode so far.
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>>269261375
Tsukihime
>yfw the Gonzo adaption sold 13k
>ufotable could make 4 times that if they do a series or 10+ times if they do a film/ long OVA series
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>>269261375
Hollow Ataraxia for example
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>>269249249
Dude just read wikipedia and fap to fan art. The writing is mostly just talking about food or autistic infodumps about power levels and the sex scenes are bad. Regret wasting my time with it

Tsukihime was ok though
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>>269259491
go read the rules, it belongs on /jp/
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>>269261824
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>>269261824
FSN is an /a/ thing. It's been on the board longer than /jp/'s existed.
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This time around, fans are taking time and interest in Fate/Apocrypha.

http://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/

Fourteen servants split into two teams, red and black. All fighting for the Holy Grail.
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Has Hollow Ataraxia been fully translated yet? I've been waiting since like for damn ever.
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>>269262032
Been translated since September.
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>>269261715
>talking about food

Fucking this. Why? Why all the food porn? Did they make the game on an empty stomach or some shit?
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Is Sakura worst grill?

Is this even necessary to ask?
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>>269258352
>you will never be one of the old men Rin pleases for money.
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>>269262078
What the fuck? Damn, guess I better play Stay Night again to refresh myself then.
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>>269262124
I swear to god if I hear her say
>senpai
one more fucking time.
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>>269262001
I feel that after F/SN and F/Z, Apocrypha would probably be the better one made for an anime adaptation

Extra and CCC would be okay too
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>>269262124
Forever and always.
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>>269262124
Burn the worm witch!
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>>269262124

>Is Sakura worst grill?
yes

>Is this even necessary to ask?
No
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>>269259236
I think mister is fine because little girls call older boys onii-san, even though it can be translated to brother too. Given the plot relevance there's no reason to want to spoil.
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CCC when?
Aksys pls.
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>>269262536
>tfw no pale as snow loli to call you BROTHEEEERRR and get double teamed by you and a roided 3 meter tall demi-god.
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>>269262738
There's a translation project going on. Supposedly they're 80% of the way through Gil's route.
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>>269262738
is there any point in playing the first if you cant stand the combat?

im only gonna play CCC for gilgamesh
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>>269262032
Yeah, it's 100%. In November, people will be adding the new openings/music from the recent release.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IkxozUSV0


>>269262738
Fate/Extra CCC Translation is in progress: tsukinoura.wordpress.com - http://xenotranslations.com/boards/fate-extra-ccc/
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So Fate/Prototype and Fate/Strange Fake became actual projects right?

i wonder if Fate/Strange Fake will have the MC keeping the ability to summon different servants.

Well, i just hope Fate/Koha-Ace also becomes an actual thing because i love my Yamato Damashii Historical Figures
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>>269262124
>>269262424
>>269262296
>>269262410
>tfw outlived sakurafish
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TSUKIHIME > FATE/SHIT NERDS

Also why no Caster route.

WHY
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>>269263204
Whatever happened to him?
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>>269263070
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>>269259785
>Taiga
>Illya
>Rider
A man after my own heart.
Go watch Prima Illya.
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>There are people who like Rin the Rhino my anus is itching for some twitching Tosucka
>There are people who like Sakura my body is made of worms with over 10 years experience of being an educated prostitute

We all know that Saber is best girl.
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>>269263893
>that fucking seiba same face
Terrible
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>>269263443
Some anons started saying "I already like it", and so he must have felt he had succeeded in his mission.
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>>269263865
I don't have anything clever to say about Saber but don't talk shit about Rin.
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The Red Man is the Orange Kid right?
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>>269264046
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>>269263865
Just as boring as the other 2 bitches, who got torn a new asshole by Alexander the Bro in F/Z.
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>>269264113
I think you mean cuter than the other two.
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>>269263448
Since there are supposed to be 14 masters, where is the second set?

>No Name Assassin
Sounds OP as fuck. Probably has abilities like UBW's Archer.
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>>269264230
No, 14 masters is Apocrypha.

Strange/Fake is a "regular" sized HGW
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>>269264220
If she is a boring character who cares how kawai she is? Shit man, this is 2d everyone is cute even the fat bald old guys in rape doujins are cute compared to their irl counterparts. Cuteness isn't gonna cut it in this doggy dog world.
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>>269264340
At least there are older dude magi again.
Hope they act like Something Archebold Something, Master of Lancer from F/Zero. (forgot his name, Waver's teacher)
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>Sakura haters
truly guys you have no taste.
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>>269264623
We don't like the taste of worms.
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>>269264623
>S-semmpai
intensifies
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>>269262001
is apocrypha any good
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>>269264570
You mean as a total fuckup?

Eh, i dunno

Orlando is the chief of police and Jester is a Dead Apostle
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>>269250152
I actually liked the part about Tohsaka's anus. I have a thing for female anuses.
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>>269264782
>a Dead Apostle
Is he aware of how fucked he is?
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>>269264738
It's a fun read. It has some interesting Servants. Instead of Saber and Shirou, it's Sieg and Jeanne. It's a mirror of the original Fate.
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>>269264792
> thing for female anuses.
Do you like them defenceless?
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>>269264918
His wish is to summon Type Mercury to destroy the world
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>>269264782
>You mean as a total fuckup?
Nah, they wont fuck up. There is no Mitsuru-look-a-like to get in the way this time. Also, they didn't land a Lancer, didn't use a dual master system, and didn't end up with a slut familiar.

>Chief of police, a cop
Oh boy, here we go.
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Is the new Ufotable anime any better than the Studio Deen version? it's UBW so it might be cool
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>>269265248
It is better.
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>>269249249
Yes but none of them are with the only attractive non-slut so they're all shit.
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>>269265248
Kayneth is just a poor dumb fuck
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>>269265406
>Rider
>not used goods
kek.
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>>269265248
Significantly better.
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>>269265248
Compare this
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>>269265001
>Jeanne
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>>269265603
with this
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I actually really like Fate Extra
Haven't played the VN's yet
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>>269265248
its infinitely better animation alone is fucking fantastic, the ehole fight against berserker in the recent episode 3 is fucking orgasmic
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>>269265248
I wouldn't suggest watching the old Fate by DEEN. It has a lovable soundtrack, but the material itself doesn't hold up well. Watch the new production by ufotable www.utw.me. It's very good. You can watch the prequel too, Zero.
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>>269265860
Should've posted the first Archer vs. Lancer fight, that shit was even better
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>>269265865
Does someone has a webm of Archer's Broken Phantasm?
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>>269265863
I actually really liked it too.
Give the VNs a try.
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>>269265952
thats why it would be awesome if ufotable would redo the fate route
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>>269266303
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>269266303
T-thanks moot
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>>269265863
Fate/Extra is great fun. What were your favorite scenes?
I suggest reading Fox Tail - http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/fateextra-ccc-fox-tail-r10808
It's great fun.
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>>269266303
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>>269265860
Deen is shit that is why
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>>269266346
Honestly, Fate doesn't have much that is worth animating. Of course, having a proper Fate adaptation would be nice for all the people who haven't read the VN, but I'm glad we get the more exciting routes animated instead.
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>>269253264
thank you anon for all of this
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>>269257703
Realta Nua also censors heavens feel
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>>269266346
They will merge what's good about the Fate route into the new anime, stuff like Continuation of a Dream and new, original scenes.
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>>269265650
I can see why Caster was so obsessed over her, Jeanne is cutest servant.
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>>269266803
Thanks mate.

Shirou, ever a gentleman
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>>269266801
Does the TL remove the censorship and re-implement the worms?
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>>269266459
Will do so but I seriously wish the sequel was released in the US
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>>269266920
>>269266801
You have the option to leave it censored or uncensored. You can select to use the replacement scenes or the original porn scenes. You also have a new soundtrack, some kick-ass new graphical features and opening clips. Some of the translation is updated, too.
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>>269266803
I want to protect that smile
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>>269266803
I don't think Archer was that far from the graveyard in the novel.
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>>269266801

Censored? Are you saying the link the person provided for torr / patch is the censored version? I'd rather have the uncensored one, unless I'm misunderstanding you.
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>>269267080
It's fine. You have the option to leave it censored, or uncensored through the click in the menu. It's that easy.
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>>269266650
yeah but having all routes animated would be the better choice, especially by ufotable

then they can move to other Fate stuff, or maybe even other type/moon stuff
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>>269267268

Thanks for answering :)
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shinji is the blue man
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See through Saber is best Saber
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>>269267035
he definitely was
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Would you fuck Archer?
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>>269258008
what the shit am i reading
im on the third fucking paragraph and i cant stop laughing
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>>269267483
of all the Saber clones she's my favorite.
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>>269268164
Read this, it's better written too.
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>>269268136
Only a faggot would say no.
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>tfw no shuwen route in Extraa
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>>269268409
>his genitals splayed against the fabric like a dad fly smashed against your car window, except far bigger, and a penis

i refuse to believe this is anything other then a joke
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>>269268985
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>>269269009
quality writing right there

also speaking of UBW isnt that the one that ends in the threesome ending
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>>269268985
Hahahaha! Best laugh.
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>>269269276
That is a possibility in UBW, yes.
Though FH/A has Shiro with all three of them. And Rider too. And some girls from school. And Kotomine's daughter.
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>>269262124
Yup. It's the only reason I'm glad I played the voiceless version of the game, her voice is so fucking annoying.
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Taiga is the best Fate girl.
The rest don't even come close.
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>>269270287
>no Taiga route
I bet that fucker has it and is hoarding it along with the Ilya route just for himself.
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>>269264623
>Liking the inferior sister
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If anyone here hasn't seen Fate/Zero, and played Extra, you should check it out.

http://bakabt.me/170043-fate-zero-bd-720p-utw.html
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>>269270470
I doubt Nasu cares about Taiga. He didn't even give her a birthday.
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You can only choose one. Discard the rest.
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>>269270786

Saber

Every time
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>>269270786
Shiki

It's not even a choice.

But I wouldn't force her to be with me.

I just want her to be with the man she actually loves, even if it means throwing all those bimbos back to the Origin.
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>>269271794
I want to bully Saber.
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>>269272310

Please do not bully the saber
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>>269272310
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>>269266303
>Emiya Shirou is going to kill Gabe Newell
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>>269272310
Don't bully my waifu.
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>>269269276
>also speaking of UBW isnt that the one that ends in the threesome ending

Only in the "good" end.

The good end is fucking shit.
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>>269270786
muh tsunmouto
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and where are the fucking pics you shits
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>>269263865
>Saber: I know how to please men
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Anyone here played Extra CCC? How is it compared to Extra?

Considering playing it since I'm able to understand it now, but been a while since I've read anything fate related.

Also considering F/HA when the vita vers comes out and has voice acting.
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>>269272976
What do you what pics of?
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>>269270786
I was having a hard time to pick. Then I noticed F/SN caster is missing from there.
Is there something you're not sharing, Mr. Choose-only-one?
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>>269273019
Fate Extra is like Sonic 2, and CCC is like Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

It's Nasu's far and away best work since the original.
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>>269249982
aka the version no one plays
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>>269273007
*Even I know

There is a big difference and it could save you life, lad.
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>>269273019
Extra CCC is better than Extra
DON'T
PLAY
GILGAMESH
FIRST

The game is designed for 2 Playthroughs minimum and Gilgamesh works 100x better on the 2nd Playthrough
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>>269250451
I'm curious if you can actually hold true to that.

Report back at the appropriate time anon.
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>>269273186
dat hat
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>fapping to Chinese cartoon porn instead of real women
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>>269252507
Gee, what do you think?
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>>269273246
You know what, Deen's Saber and other characters' art looks a bit less kiddy than the ongoing UTW's art. That shot of Saber looks better in my opinion. (Probably because it looks like the VN one, and I watched Deen's first)
UTW took Carnival Phantasm's comedy rendition of the characters and put them in a serious situation.
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>you will never be Gil's friend
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>no game about riding around town on a bicycle and wrecking cars that are in your way and evading police pursuers because that would trouble shirou
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>>269273186
>>269273270
Thanks.

In the original I played through with Saber and Caster, so this time I'll go for Archer then Gilgamesh maybe.

Female MC of course.
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so whys is there no proper adaptation of the fate route
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>>269264007

The worst part is, now that I love it, I miss it so much ;_;
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>>269273680
worst route
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>>269273680
Because it's shit.
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>>269273583
>Female MC of course

Fuck, he really hasn't been spoiled at all.
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>>269262124
Yep. Her "shy underclassman girl that likes upperclassman boy but is too shy to admit it!" shtick got old fast. That and the whole "I get raped to sleep every night by the dick worms" thing was too fucking dumb to generate any sympathy.
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>>269273680
Worst route
Best ending
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>>269273858

>>269273949
If Normal HF had the Illya bits and Kotomine fight I'd be 12/5
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>>269273949
>not the good UBW end
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>>269274056
You actually liked the good ubw end? That ending is shit.
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>>269274056
That's shittiest fucking ending in the game.

UBW True being the best.
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>>269273949
>Otaku pandering shit
>Good ending
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>>269270786
Where Taiga at god damnit
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>>269274280
2pure
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>>269274241
Not that Anon but how is it Otaku pandering? Are you stupid do you know what that term even means? It just shows that the promise that they made came true.
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>>269274312
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>>269274349
>I get to be with my waifu forever now

yeah nah go fuck yourself.
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Alternate universe Kotomine is the red man
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I wish the Fate/Extra gameplay wasn't so Rock-Paper-Scissors-like. If your luck shits out and you let you enemy get three in a row, kiss your ass goodbye. At least with bosses you can get some info and find out when they're gonna Noble Phantasm you.

Good writing, at least.
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>>269274349
>I get to be with my waifu forever

I mean, HF True is pretty over the top what with getting a new body from the chick from Kara no Kyoukai and having Rider for threesomes, but literally spending forever with your waifu in Avalon is fucking disgusting tier pandering.
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>>269270786
Tamamo
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>>269274434
best h scene
muh dick
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>>269274457

Couldn't be more wrong.
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>>269274572
HF True is practically a bad end for Shirou. He gives up his dreams, and possibly the ability for him to live a normal life in that ending. I mean that puppet body isn't exactly 100%.

I mean what the fuck is he gonna do with himself? Get a normal job?
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>>269249249
>ctrl-f
>0 results for mollusks

Well that's surprising.
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>>269274867
It's all about the anus, now.
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>>269274867
This isn't a Turkeyhandle thread.
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>>269274867
Wasn't Tsukihime Nasu's seafood adventure?
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Acquire Caster, poke a Saber.
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>>269274759
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>>269274759
hes from an alternate reality where kotomine got a tan from the fire
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>>269274792
Shirou will never be normal, he is fucking insane.
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>>269274792
Have sex with Sakura.
Lots and lots of sex.

Probably fight off any Magus who want to mess with Sakura because she's got Grail bits inside her.

I mean : She gets the entire Matou fortune for herself.
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>>269275068
>blu rays will have extended episodes
>prologue will have the reality marble talk
>episode 01 might have the part where shirou mops up his own fucking blood
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>>269274996
RULE BREAKER
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>>269275068
Yeah, but what's he gonna do now that he gave up his dream for Sakura? It's clear what Fate and UBW Shirou do, but does he just sit on his ass?

>>269275108
Can HF Shirou even fight? Without his arm he's by far the weakest Shirou, and that puppet body gimps him.
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>>269274434
Is this actually from the VN?
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>>269275235
Tohsaka mentioned that with training he can make a reality marble
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>>269275304
Yes.
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>>269275235
I imagine he continues to play the house, probably finish his studies, move on etc. I mean, it's not like he can't do anything with that body.
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>>269275235
>Can HF Shirou even fight

He'd find a way some how.

I mean his whole reason to live is to protect Sakura after all. With magic, there's a way.

I mean : Shiki's puppet arm let's her force grab people if I remember right.

I'm sure Shirou's can do some nice stuff too.

Plus it's not like he's fighting Servants anymore, so he doesn't need to be insanely powerful.

He also has Medusa for backup, who shits all over everyone.
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>>269274457
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>>269275320
It took Archer 10 years to do that, and HF Shirou was still recovering 2 years later. He still needs regular mana transfers to function.
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