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For those of you who actually played Warcraft III on Battle.net in its prime, was this not the best game of all time?
I'm not talking about the campaign (which I did enjoy) or the regular matches, but the custom games that players created.
The custom games on Battle.net had everything! They even created entire genres of other games! The WorldEditor allowed for so much creativity and ingenuity to appear on Battle.net. I don't think I've ever played another game that had such a massive variety of options to choose from. I was able to play it off and on for years and it still kept itself interesting.
It's really a shame though that we will never see another game like it. It was so sad to see the community slowly dissolve into nothing but bot hosted DotA games.
>Starcraft II was a soul-crushing letdown and a shadow of what Battle.net could have been.
>>260736523
Yes.
It's not entirely dead, there's a /v/ group that plays together occasionally AFAIK, but it could definitely be in better shape.
Best RPG: Waugrif CoT series
Best Arena: Nexus Arena
Best TD: Line Towernon-War edition
Best "Tag": Kodo Tag/Dark Deeds, if you count that
Best "MOBA":ENFOs
Debate me.
Hero line wars. Also, there is a /v/ steam group dedicated to playing wc3 TFT, but I cant remember the name. Try: wc3 /v/ or wc3 vidya.
>>260737085
Are you me?
I tried it once but I had no idea what to do and I got totally crushed. Wasn't interested in playing again after that non-fun experience.
I remember playing shit ton of custom maps on garena. Good times.
>Those fags that would abuse glitches in dbz tribute and ruin the game for everybody
>>260737085
Kodo tag was rad! I liked golem tag too. The basic ones before they got too insane with custom buildings and cheaty maps were the best.
Waugrif's was sooo good. But it seemed like my saves only worked like 60% of the time.
My favorite MOBA will always be Battleships!
>Stand alone BATTLESHIPS WHEN?!
>>260736523
are you me
>>260736523
Oh god, that screen...so much nostalgia right now
>>260737085
Enfos was fuck as fun
>>260736523
Has anyone made any good Dota 2 custom games yet?
>>260736924
post link to group pls
>>260736523
YES IT WAS LITERALLY THE BEST
FUCKING KILL ME NOW
Does anyone have a map pack with maps that don't crash?
Or just a big map-pack in general.
I've lost all of mine
Also was anyone else a big fan of Island Defense? My friend and I used to play the shit out of it. Too bad it was one of those really high skill curve games so it usually turned into a steamroll one way or the other.
>Morph4lyfe
There was one custom game that came out relatively recently that had a variety of ways to make money, either by regional buying and selling, hunting, and farming. Players who died without a home base became bandits. Anyone remember the name? Because that game was good.
>>260736523
Custom games were really good, but the ladder matches were fucking awesome.
>>260736523
WC3: TFT Battle.net was THE game to play. I miss that shit so much. So many great custom games to be played.
Werewolf Transylvania
Dark Deeds
Azeroth Wars
Line Tower Wars
Life of a Peasant
Real Life For Morons
Castle Wars
The hide and seek one where a bunch of you play as an ent and build a base while trying to hide from 3 other players
Good times.
>>260737085
Best RPG: TKoK Eastern Kingdom I swear to god, the environment and quests in that one were so cash
Best Arena: pudge wars
Best TD: Wintermaul/WM Wars, fuck you if you say anything else
Best "Tag": Parasite/Island Tag
Best "MOBA": Battleships CS
Also best LOAP: Real Life (for morons)
>>260738624
It was all good
>>260736523
Starcraft II has great custom games.
I played WC3 extensively, had over 2000 games played, 3 150 win icons, one 750 win icon, one 350 win icon, and every race's 25 win icon. also tourny icons to infernal.
Stop being a faggot.
The WC3 Troy custom map was probably the most memorable for me as a kid. WC3 custom maps were golden.
>>260738810
SC2 just isn't the same. No matter how hard I try to get into it's arcade games, they just aren't the same as WC3's custom games.
>>260737109
Too bad they play nothing but trash maps all fucking day. I try to suggest something good like island defense/fortress survival/shopping maul/etc and they just want to play stupid fucking maps like ESCAPE FROM GAY HEAVEN and DARK DEEDS and COTDRP
It was great until DoTA flooded the custom games list. Most DoTA hosts would ban you on the spot for trying to learn how to play it.
it was a golden age, it will not come back
>Best game of all time
>But only because of the custom games
I don't understand your logic, WC3 was a pretty slow RTS with inflated health pools so casuals wouldn't cry about their units dying 'too fast' and generally unwanted RPG mechanics that continue to plague Blizzards idea of an RTS (Kerrigan being a LoL hero in SC2 for example...)
I find it a fallacy to call it the best game when the only thing that excelled is the user created content, you're giving Blizzshit way too much credit when you word it that way.
>>260736523
I liked broodwar 1v1 more but WC3 had godly custom maps.
>>260738979
I remember that. Fuck that shit. The maps list was completely flooded with DotA all the time. All of them would instantly kick you if you didn't have the map downloaded already.
>>260736523
Nobody makes custom games for map editors anymore. Tools for making games used to be scarce back in the day.
Nowdays you can just pickup unity and make your own game, and actually sell it to make money.
>>260738878
that shit was awesome
all these backdoor tactics as both sides
all this chaos on the screen while listning to your modem roar like a chainsaw
>>260738945
>SotDRP
I swear to god, every faggot wants to play it just to build their own little base, once you start RPing they either close the gates and act like they aren't there or leave.
>>260739179
There's also the fact that blizzard claims rights to whatever you make, so that killed the SC2 map community
>tfw Dota 2 mapmaker will bring about another golden age of custom maps
>tfw WC4 will be created free of Blizzard's taint
Based Gaben, take me now.
>>260737085
>best RPG
>not TKoK
>>260738945
Escape, Dark Deeds, and COTDRP are all good games though. I mean, I'm 100% behind you on it being bullshit that that's all they play, but it's nice to play them every once in a while though.
Sidebar, what was the game where you built windmills in wood fence squares for income and were continually raided by more powerful monsters and knights as time went on? Let's Build a Kingdom? I always enjoyed that but never managed to win.
Anyone else spend countless hours on Helm Deep in Starcraft?
Darwin's Island was always a blast, especially when multiple people reached Godhood and battled it out. I dug Enfo's as well, it's too bad nobody has taken an approach at that kind of Hero Wave Defense game where two teams generally dick with one-another.
fucking Helms Deep and other siege maps were the greatest thing ever.
>>260738810
>Starcraft II has great custom games.
It really doesn't and it was doomed either way as Blizzard planned to charge players money to 'buy' custom maps if they were popular enough. Fortunately real gamers stayed the fuck away from that shitsequel and the custom map scene never got a shred of talent.
Wintermaul Wars
DBZ Tribute
Footman Frenzy
Plus I always liked Nintendo TD because you could build something before a short cinematic and then get all your gold back when the cinematic ended.
>>260739417
>this is what valvedrones actually believe
the fatfuck didn't even deliver proper LAN
>>260739708
>>260739632
>Siege of Gondor
>play as mordor
>that orgasmic feeling when you buttdevastate Legolas/Aragorn
>>260740035
Sorry to hear you live in an African village bro.
>>260739417
There needs to be a better way of discovering and subscribing to new custom games, though. The options are very limited as of now.
>>260739916
While I agree SC2's customs weren't nearly as fun as WC3 overall they definitely had some gems. That Space Battleship game was fun as fuck until everyone started treating it as the next DOTA and the community started to twist into a mirror of DOTA's as a result.
I loved the hero arena's and I remember people made like Final Fantasy hero arena's and other such gaming themed ones
the rpgs were kinda fun too, the world of warcraft one was great, I remember that DBZ one too
>>260736523
If you counted all the battle.net custom games then yes, it would probably be my favorite game of all time
>>260740192
>typical valvedrone
>Dota 2 custom games coming soon™
>>260740268
That's the whole point! The custom games are what made it into what it was!
... So who's up for some WC3? We can easily host through MakeMeHost worldwide on all realms.
>ant sim was easily one of my favorite custom games
As long as the spider slot was disabled.
Fuck the spider.
>>260739506
>Escape, Dark Deeds, and COTDRP are all good games though
>>260737085
Oh man I wish Enfos had its own standalone game like what Dota/LoL got. I would play the shit out of it
>>260736523
>was this not the best game of all time?
No, not with that god awful Hero shit.
>>260738939
>No matter how hard I try to get into it's arcade games, they just aren't the same as WC3's custom games.
It's very rare for online games to have a good community anymore unless the game is either very new or has a very limited demographic.
Online communities have generally gone to shit, it's no longer mind blowing to be able to play vidya with people thousands of kilometers away from you, everyone takes it for granted and gets high off the anonymity. Too many suburbanites that are entitled to their 'right to the internet'. The original Battle.net existed during the wild west days when an internet connection that was both fast and stable was not the norm.
>>260740470
most of the people on /v/ are too scrub to actually play, they just talk about it.
last time i hosted some maps, literally everyone but me was terrible. some one leak only survival td's? everyone but me is wiped out by round 2. arena maps? i always win. survival/one guy vs the rest maps? i win.
sure it probably sounds like i'm bragging, but i'm not even fucking good at wc3 customs, i usually lose most games that aren't team based like wintermaul, but /v/ manages to make me look like a fucking pubstar.
>>260740302
>>260740035
Don't you have a $60 'content patch' to be buying? Gotta save up for those skins and mounts ;)
>>260739223
>mfw I ran games on the Europe servers for SotDRP and organized everyone, making sure to kick and banlist anyone disruptive or of low quality
>my games had people in fucking queues to join, had to select the ones whose turn it was
>I personally made sure that there was always some world event that everyone could join in, if people weren't mingling by themselves
>fun for hours upon hours
And that's how I knew I was going to become the leader of the Fourth Reich
>>260740352
Don't remind me.
When do the Dota 2 custom games get released?
Appearently there is a hero line wars and team survival game
This and Dawn of War 1/2 were my only serious attempts at competitive RTS.
I like small numbers of units. The sheer swarm-spam of Starcraft 2 turns me off. I am just not idiot savant enough to manage that much shit.
I really hope Warcraft comes back to the RTS game. This game was truly enchanting. I got to play some of the first tower defense games that ever existed on battle.net! How cool is that?
>this thread
>no warlocks
>no impossible bosses
>no tkok
>no elite snipers
>no night of the dead
/v/ groups taste in maps is shit
Footmen Frenzy, Hero Line Wars (version 1.72 or something like that?), and Hell vs Heaven/Angel Arena were the fucking bomb.
I probably have a couple thousand hours in TFT in custom games alone.
DoBRP
>>260741014
>Implying I'm defending shitzzard
as I said
>typical valvedrone
>>260741247
Not soon enough, it's going to be so much better than the WC3 map scene.
>>260741247
Fuck, I'd be happy even if it only had pudge wars/battleships/Aeon of Strife and others.
>>260741202
>running and organizing WC3 RP games
Son, I hate to tell you....
>>260741262
Like fuck they will when blizzard can shit out more WoW updates
Especially now with HotS. Maybe, MAYBE we'll see a warcraft rts themed dota custom
>>260741432
The problem with warcraft 3 is that there were too many good customs to remember
>>260737085
>No Hero defence
Why I never!
>>260741550
>Better cover my tracks
>>260741432
>impossible bosses
>tkok
>elite snipers
>night of the dead
so is yours, pal. 1 out of 5 aint good. night of the dead was cool before it had a fucking faggot save code system.
>>260736924
That /v/ group is pretty bad honestly. I play with a group of ~7 other people but we're just friends
Someone please tell me I wasn't making up that mode where people pulled each other over a cliff with that chain weapon
I still cant believe this doesnt have an official release
>>260741734
whatever makes you sleep at night, drone
>>260741641
>HotS.
I-I'm sure Heroes will treat the IP with the proper respect and dignity...
>>260736523
>Starcraft II was a soul-crushing letdown
Why everyone on /v/ keeps repeating this?
I played a bit of customs on SC2 and damn, some of them are pretty amazing.
Is there something I don't know about?
>>260739417
The editor sucks and requires programming skills, even to do simple shit like setting the terrain texture is a pain
Its not happening
>>260741812
Not that guy but surely you got more insults that using "drone" over and over again?
>>260741870
I really hate how Blizzard has decided that the only direction possible for their franchises is to parody them.
>>260741924
its a beta
>>260737085
>Best Arena: Nexus Arena
But that's not Warlock.
Warlock in Dota2 when
Did anyone else here play the movie maker game? Did anyone ever actually have a full game of that?
What about the DnD game where everyone picked heroes and went through a tutorial area while the DM littered different zones with monsters and treasure? Anyone ever actually have a fucking full session of that shit either?
>>260741573
Can one of you who know some stuff about the emerging dota 2 customs scene explain like, how the editor is and stuff? I'm really excited but was afraid that the tools they released would be too complicated for beginners. I love complex custom maps, but sometimes it's really nice to jump into just a really shit, half assed tower defence
>>260741932
What do you expect from a Riot/Blizzard shiteater?
>>260736523
Am I the only who still plays WC3's campaign every now and then?
It has such a nice flow to it...
>>260741797
i'm pretty sure someone is making a game that's basically parasite, but i can't name it off the top of my head
>>260742065
Its already there, anon. Youtube it.
>>260742053
Parody+Milk it to death
>Skin variation - $20
>Mount - $20
>Unlock hero -$20
The saddest part is that they think they're being subtle when they pull shit like this.
>>260741773
Pudge Wars
>>260741797
Same, too bad DarkShogun turned out to be a giant shit-eating faggot
{spoiler}psychic and bug evolutions were best[/spoiler]
>>260742065
it's there, but it's missing a lot
>>260742147
I did, or attempted it anyways. I just wanted to replay the undead and blood elf campaign but couldnt be assed to go through the other bullshit
>>260736523
Of course it was the GOAT
not even a question
>>260742104
>better call him riot/blizzard fan
>that will show him
The last blizzard game I've played was retail TBC, kiddo. Haven't touched lol.
>>260736523
>was this not the best game of all time?
Maybe the best game OF it's time.
Candidate for GOAT? Probably makes the top 25
>>260736523
>I'm not talking about the campaign (which I did enjoy) or the regular matches
no OP, even THAT was perfect. the game was fucking perfect, and the custom maps took it beyond the scope of a simple 9/10 game. i payed 40$ for this fucking game and got at least a 6k hours into it, it ruined ever other game for me because it was to little for to much when compared to wc3
wc3tft was the best game ever made, and maybe one day i can be a villager in a land full of strife again. maybe one day
>>260736523
>I'm not talking about the campaign (which I did enjoy) or the regular matches, but the custom games that players created.
Opinion fucking discarded
>muh garry's mod
How much money do they pay you, and do you have to extract it from gabes obese asscrack?
>>260742324
Well to be fair most of the dota2 models are pulled of WC3s (and it's dota) so eh.
>>260742324
what the fuck, that looks nothing like tyrande
>>260742403
>he doesn't own all their base
Pleb.
>>260742445
>ever playing any iteration of world of warcraft
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAUHUEhaueheauheuaheuahaue
>>260742445
>Playing a shoddy Everquest clone
>Playing it far enough to LOLSPACEGOATS
Holy fuck kill yourself.
Played a brilliant TD map back in the day when your goal was to protect a single defenceless unit from getting killed by the oncoming waves by weaving back and forth between your twoers. Think it was called "Runner!", damn I miss it.
>>260742635
>>260742665
careful with that edge
>>260742621
A lot of the Warcraft properties look retarded to try and make them more like their dota 2 counterparts
>>260742596
Except Drow Ranger was based on the Dark Ranger model, not the Priestess of Elune. Do a little research next time before shilling so hard.
>>260742853
>Crying samefag on posts 12 seconds apart
>>>/Reddit/
Is it too late to play WarCraft III for the first time?
>>260742670
Well I somewhat remember that, but he sure wasn't defenseless if it's what I'm thinking of. 4 square spawn boxes in the 4 cardinal directions, one person for each spawn and then two extra tower builders plus one guy playing the hero peasant with lots of abilities like War Stomp, Shockwave, Storm Bolt, Avatar, Reincarnation, Stat Boost, Thunderclap, and Chain Lightning.
>For those of you who actually played Warcraft III on Battle.net in its prime
Alright, a Warcraft III thread!
>I'm not talking about the campaign
Alright, the multiplayer was definitely the meat of the game.
>or the regular matches
Fuck.
>but the custom games that players created
Every fucking time. Did any of you faggots every actually play the game instead of your shitty RP games and DotA clones?
>>260743118
>Implying I've mentioned samefag
no u
>>260742920
i'm going to assume that she doesn't have her old voice actor as well, since blizzard loves to change their great and memorable voices into terrible ones
>>260743214
WC3 underperforms as an RTS thanks to side imbalance. Fuck Night Elves and Orcs all day every day.
>>260737085
Best RPG: Final Fantasy EPIC Rpg
Best TD: Element TD and Legion TD
Best Minigames: Uther Party
Corrected it. Has Starcraft 2 similar games to this? I don't trust Valve
>>260743193
Nha sounds like a version of what I played but the only thing you could buy for your unit was some boots so he would move faster so he wouldn't die during special waves.
>>260737478
guilty
>>260742920
I was talking about the models in general, even though I didn't notice that it was supposed to be Tyrande, which is kinda retarded, why did they dismount her?
Also you ought to stop calling everybody who says anything that doesn't reflect your opinion a shill.
>play la2 all days
>friend invites to play some WC3 custom map
>ok
>it's la2 map
>mfw it was more fun than actual game
WC3 custom maps were seriously based
Also remember MarvelTD, some RPG map were you could save your char and play him later, some racing map and dota ofc.
>>260743214
>nobody in the thread talking about dota
Every fucking time. Did any of you faggots ever actually read the thread instead of shitpost?
>>260743338
at least night elves and especially orc are fun to play, undead is the most boring race ever.
FIENDS TO FROSTIES AND DESTROYERS EVERY GAME
you can get other stuff sure but why would you
>>260743338
This. Blizzard games have always been poorly designed shit, they just ended up with amazing custom/multiplayer scenes that carried the IP.
>>260736523
Kodo tag/Sheep tag/That one 'tag' with the bugs
Real life for morons (LoaP can suck it)
Island troll tribes
That Goblin survival map
Peon Olympics
Pimp my Peon
Heros and Empires
Pictionary
Doodad Defense
>>260743214
WC3 in it's prime is WC3 before DotA/Autorefresh/Hosting bots ruined it.
>>260743214
>playing WC3 ladder
Shit nigger, if I wanted an RTS I sure as hell wouldn't play who-levels-their-hero-first
>>260743442
>clones
Do you ever actually read a post before you make yourself look like a retard?
>>260742097
Right now it requires basic programming knowledge. It takes time to become familiar with the functions and commands necessary to do the more complex stuff.
It's a bit too complex for the average user at the moment, but it is still in beta and they are adding and patching things all the time. Spending a bit of time learning it is rewarding, but I don't think you'll see a whole lot of those half baked maps at this stage.
>>260743214
I played the game. It was fun on the lower ends when I could do more varied builds and didn't have to do one specific starting build. Where I could actually use different heroes. It was nice to be able to play low ladder matches and start Paladin instead of Archmage 100% of the time, or have a Shaman + Tauren only build.
Higher ladder was just too cookie cutter for my liking and I wasn't a God Tier player so I couldn't stomp higher tiers using only what I liked.
>>260743338
The heroes made balancing hard and fucked it up as RTS. I remember when DH mana burn was 100/200/300. He literally made your heroes grunts at lvl1.
>>260743684
nobody in the thread is talking about dota or any game like dota.
>>260743338
Git gud looser
>>260743650
Every time I played ladder everyone was cheating.
I stopped when I got yelled at for not cheating.
>>260737893
Blizzard keeps updating the fucking game to cause maps to crash.
>>260743558
>not having a control group of 12 abominations and 12 gargoyles
fucking why
>>260743386
Not the guy you responded to but did you even look at the picture? She doesn't have a mount because it's a drow ranger clone.
>>260736523
Apart from everything you already mentioned, I miss the BNet tournaments. Those were fun.
>>260739065
Custom games was an essential part of the game, how is that not a big factor into how good the game is?
>>260743718
I just hope they dumb it down a bit, not because I'm retarded and need someone to baby me, but a lot of the charm of wc3 customs to me was the amount of diversity because anyone could make a map if they spent a little of time working on it.
>everyone has mh in 4v4
suffering
How active is WC3 battlenet, both the standard and custom maps?
>>260743558
>FIENDS TO FROSTIES AND DESTROYERS EVERY GAME
I nostalgia'd hard.Yes, I play undead.Spamming trinukes erryday.
>>260743931
It was pushed as e-sport bullshit. custom maps were just a bonus
Custom games were great, too bad dota ruined b.net.
Best of all time though? Nah.
But I'd pay 60 dollars for a standalone castle fight game.
>>260743860
>it's a drow ranger clone.
to me it looks more like they just copied Sylvanas from wow.
>>260743718
Its in a very early stage, so its fine for what it is
>>260738731
>Battleship
YES
YES
A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES YES
FUCK THE HATERS
>>260742096
Yes and Yes.
WC3 and counter-strike were probably the best online games of the 2000s
>>260743819
>not being Necros and Siege Wagons + Lich only
Raising dat army all day err day.
>mfw spamming possession on workers and building an army of Shammies, Frosties and Knights
>mfw no face
expected map editor to get
more awsome in SC2
CasualZaard failed horribly..
and then Diablo 3
god bring BLZ-North back ffs
>>260742057
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, this is seriously what volvo drones believe.
>volvo will suddenly do a 180 and change everything about the editor
>>260744169
How does that change anything? Even if you dislike esports, that still makes custom games a big part of the game.
>>260744198
Tug of War is an awful concept.
>>260744087
Dead as fuck, most custom games are DotA hosted by bots who barely ever start. Finding a decent map is next to impossible.
>>260743819
wouldn't that lose to just about anything?
>Hero Wars
>Hero Line Wars
>Legion TD (still going quite strong actually...)
>Wintermaul Wars
>Castle Fight
and my all-time favourite..
>Balin's Tomb
Fucking amazing game.
>>260744274
>being this noob
>>260744314
Its in a very early stage, its a legit reason to why its difficult to work with so far.
Quit shitposting.
>>260736523
That fucking Jurassic Park map man.
>>260736523
You speak the truth anon.
It doesn't matter if this kind of experience will come again.
What matters is that we all had the best of times. And that is enough.
>>260743860
>drows with bows are owned by valve
I was lvl 51 and top 20 in solo northend.
The only topplayer i could never beat though was grubby, but i beat him in sc2 though.
I was also responsible for the discovery of the discbug that lead to the dischack a few weeks later.
>>260744087
Standard is still okay, the issue is that 10-20% of people are maphackers. I recommend you download fogclick and just leave if it tells you someone is maphacking.
>>260743872
>BNet tournaments
Nothing like having 7-1 in the preliminary round and ending up in 17th place below 16 players with the exact same stats.
But when you finally reach the ro16 for once, the hype is off the charts.
>>260744281
>this post
>>260744314
>every game or tool upon conception must be in it's prime and isn't required any stages of development
so can we all agree this guy is retarded?
>>260743819
step up anon, aboms are shit without a necro to frenzy them. gargoyles are just shit.
>not having any necros and meat wagons
>not having banshees
anyone wanna play?
>>260744410
It wasn't like starcraft's tug of war.
>>260744623
>Blizzard sues Valve to try and steal basic concepts for Dota, fails horribly
>Bitterly releases a shitty LoLclone game
>NAH TYRANDE HAVING WHITE HAIR AND DARK SKIN IS JUST A COINCIDENCE
oh fuck me dont tell me
/v/ is full of blizzfags
look i loved D2 and Wc3
but face it they became casual
like a mother fuckers
>>260736523
>For those of you who actually played Warcraft III on Battle.net in its prime, was this not the best game of all time?
Yep.
But it is almost cheating.
It's like saying the SNES was the best video game of all time.
The library of Warcraft 3 custom games are so diverse and vast that I don't think most people even realize.
Yesterday I showed a map to a friend who even played Warcraft 3 and he didn't realize it was possible.
>Starcraft II was a soul-crushing letdown and a shadow of what Battle.net could have been.
Yes...
The change in the user agreement to protect the maps rather than the assets, the shitty bnet 2.0 without channels, and the popularity system when it came to browsing, the harder to use editor turned many away both new and experienced mappers.
>>260744875
Yeah, I have it installed or whatever if you guys wanna get in a wc3 channel
>>260736523
yes, it was easily the best
i enjoyed everything about this game. the campaigns, the normal ladder game, and the funmaps
>>260736523
totally agree with everything you say, i loved community in wc3
>>260744976
Yeah, it was crazy. That one map where you could play a first-person sniper in a huge ass map
Or that one RPG that changed the HUD, the models, everything
fuck man
>>260736523
It was great, but it was not without it's flaws. It was hard to navigate and a lot of shitty games were popular, and it was a hard to find a good game at higher levels unless you organized your own friends.
That said there was nothing quite like it, except for Starcraft.
>>260744739
I won several of those in 2005, and one time with the help of a discbug i accidentially found. These tourneys was the reason hackers noticed that and build a dischack based on the information i gave on a german forum to explain the situation.
>>260744723
Jesus Christ, this problem has been going on for years
>>260744198
>castle fight
once again you prove yourself to be one of the worst tripfags, mostly because you've been here for what seems like a decade, and you used to be cool.
Castle fight, seriously? one of the worst fucking maps? Jesus, your taste is garbage. You probably like that unbalanced as fuck 13attleships too.
>>260741762
>mad private detected
>>260744949
Sometimes Blizz sends a wave of virals over here, you gotta be on your guard. These 'nostalgia' threads are typically just thinly veiled ways to turn people towards SC2
>H-hey I thought the Arcade™ was pretty fun
>>260736523
>baby's first warcraft
>>260741432
>no warlocks
;_;
>>260737085
Best Tag: Tree Tag
Best AoS: Dota, Battletanks
Best Mystery(Dark Deeds etc): Metastasis
Best Strategy Map: Solar Conquest
Best TD: SOS TD
Best Arena: Spellcraft
Best RPG: Sols Open RPG
Honorable mentions:
Dark Deeds, FMVH(Force Majeure Vampire Hunters), 11th Vampire, Cube TD, Warlock, Battlecruiser Command,
>>260744976
>>The change in the user agreement to protect the maps rather than the assets, the shitty bnet 2.0 without channels, and the popularity system when it came to browsing, the harder to use editor turned many away both new and experienced mappers.
That and Blizzard is a soulless greedy hive of shills, nobody with any dignity would use or promote their products.
>>260745446
WC 1 and 2 are dated as fuck though. Even AoE 1 is more fun to play.
>>260745446
This. WC1/2 were amazing and I still don't understand how Blizzard was retarded enough to dumb it down for WC3 and introduce the clusterfuck hero system. The fact Blizzard thought they could balance four races just shows how arrogant and inept they were, even back then.
I mean, removing ships and naval combat? What the actual FUCK?
>>260744871
>implying my entire army is comprised of nothing but aboms and gargoyles
get out you fucking trench shitter, you're a retard if you don't make use of every single unit in the army
the primary assault force and the brunt of the damage comes from 12 aboms 12 gargs SUPPORTED by things, you scrub.
It had its flaws.
>weekly balance patched that made some race OP and another UP
>balance drama on the forums which got flooded into oblivion with shit like
horsecock
>chat channel drama
>maphacks
>dischacks
>trolls in random team so stick to 1v1
but yeah it was fuck
>>260745276
Oh yeah, I remember that. I think one of them was made by a guy named stabguy or something.
Still, I'm digging the BNet tournaments. It's a shame they didn't include those in sc2. They're way more fun to play in since you don't have to wait forever for your opponents to finish or show up at all.
>>260744552
all of those are garbage though
do you even play any maps that are actually very difficult like YouTD, which has 360 levels and then a neverending bonus mode, beating the map on extreme takes hours to complete
but i bet you'll continue playing your casual HLW and other garbage maps
Remember when we said fuck you to custom games and actually played Warcraft 3 as what it was supposed to?
>>260741797
Metastasis was better and last I heard the guy was disappointed with sc2 and worked on his standalone game.
Metastasis was a little more cutthroat and less noob friendly.
Died the first time before I could grab a weapon because I started with augmented legs that another guy wanted.
But once you git gud it is really amazing and Parasite 2 looks plain in comparison.
Infecting the bio section was sweet in Parasite though.
Metastasis is just so polished in so many ways though. Mutant, Alien and Android are handled pretty great, and the humans are more distinct.
Not to talk about all of the ships and the moving planet and moon.
>>260744552
>Balin's Tomb
ohhh fuck, i remember
>that fight over who can be green (Legolas)
>that hard as fuck start
>the clicking
>THE FUCKING CLICKING I CAN'T STOP PLS PLS SEND HELP
>CLICK CLICK CLICK
RIP my fingers
>>260744563
>its in a early stage thats the reason why its hard
Go try UE4 you faggot, it's in beta too and it's the second easiest tool to use.
>>260744828
You really think Blizzard made changes to the world editor, no they never bothered to. They only time they ever changed it was with TFT and a patch to remove a bug that allowed the editor to run exe files.
>>260745383
yes i'm mad, i don't like having over half the fucking game locked away behind a code, to the point where i need to grind for several hundred hours just to regain back the functionality EVERY PLAYER HAD in the old version.
>>260745817
>every single unit in the army
>using ghouls for damage that late in the game
>>260741874
You should probably read the arguments that are mentioned in each thread.
>>260739417
Dota 2 custom will most likely die because the map format and hosting system will be horrible.
Currently its
>You subscribe to a map
>So you can download it(it can several hundred megabytes in size)
>Lacks several metric tons of unit models
>No promise of a working host system
>>260746181
I know what youre talking about anon, the map alone totally blew it out of the water but the thing is parasite was run daily and i saw metastasis maybe once a week, even then it didnt always succeed in getting players before the host got bored
>>260736523
I had dial-up when I played this game.
Downloading a 20MB map or campaign at 2.5KB/s took 2 hours on a good day. I still played the hell out of the maps I could get though. Waiting for them was worth it because you knew they were almost always going to be fun.
>>260745774
3/10
>The fact Blizzard thought they could balance four races just shows how arrogant and inept they were, even back then.
Blizzard couldn't even balance the 2 races in WC2 even though they were 99% the same, Orcs were OP
>>260740035
>calling somebody a drone
Fuck off to reddit
>>260746017
>weekly balance patched that made some race OP and another UP
It's funny how Blizzard has never learned how retarded this is, in general it's strange how so many companies don't get it except for Valve.
>>260745329
I'm sorry.
>>260744314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_y7LU_cDwc
i dunno, this looks pretty damn fun
>>260746363
>late in the game
>implying ghouls are for damage and not a meat wall with life leech and combat cannibalism
if they arent attacking your ghouls, then send them to eat up all their workers
though it is cute to see you guys who think you're better than me try to lecture me on how to play, as if you're an accredited WC3 professional.
i miss DBZ tribute and fallowship of the ring. used to play it all the time.
>>260746286
that's enough of you private, dismissed
>>260746534
>I only played against the computer
>>260746709
kek, ghouls are trash brah. they're easily outclassed by abominations and skeletons.
>>260746576
>implying broken against broken is a good idea
enjoy your messy game.
>>260744739
>>260745276
Damn, I always wanted to reach the round of 16 in one of these, but I was never good enough. My best result was 6-1-1 which wasn't enough to qualify.
>>260746579
it's too late to redeem yourself, just keep those things bottled up inside like an angry genie, and never release them. keep them trapped inside you, like a wretched fart that yearns to cross the nostrils of all in the room.
but hey, you aren't as bad as ruggarell who posted his tiny dick on /v/, and you aren't onsokumaru/soulja boy who are both niggers.
>>260746916
At least I'm having fun without constantly switching to the flavor of the month, kiddo.
>>260746576
>praising valve
>on fucking balance of all things
Valve is fucking shit at balance.
>lets nerf stickies
>since demo is nerfed and both pyro and heavy are countered or counter him, lets nerf them too
>oh woops, people didnt like it, remove the nerf on stickies in less than a week
>i dont care about heavy and pyro
If you're talking about dota, that is Icefrog, not Valve.
>>260746576
Balancing RTS for pros is hard. Valve never had to deal with shit like that.
inb4
>dota 2
balancing is made by icefrog
>>260746709
>>260746889
>tfw my favorite thing to do was grab the dread lord, grab vampiric aura and build 3+ barracks to churn a stream of ghouls into the enemies base 24/7
>>260743191
Yes.
>>260736523
>blizzard will make WC4 sooner or later,(probably when wow stops being profitable and goes F2P) specially now that most people accept this time traveling bullshit they are pulling on WoD
>it will be utterly shit because Blizzard is now a shell of it former self
>tfw
all i want is WC3 to get a proper sequel that live up to how great the game was, and it's never gonna happend
>>260747114
That's because "pros" are whiny cunts who will never ever be satisfied with anything.
>>260747240
my nigga.
not very effective against good players, but holy shit its an instant win against baddies, because even if you take some losses, you will ruin their economy before you run out of resources to poop ghouls in their base.
>>260746492
Not sure when you got into Metastasis but we had a ton of games.
There was an official bot, another guy had his bot but he took it down I think to avoid two half filled games.
The bot hosted cross realm, but also on some other russian servers to bring in other people.
Traffic was great for a longer time.
I even came back after half a year and still had games.
Today there's nothing though, but I haven't seen parasite either.
I can't remember perfectly, but I had a lot of full good games of metastasis.
>>260747109
>TF2 is so perfectly balanced that the slightest change has the disastrous effects on the games ecosystem
>So this means Valve is bad as balancing
I can't wrap my head around how stupid you Blizzshitters are.
>>260746060
I've never actually played YouTD, and I rarely have hours free...
I'll see if there's rooms for it.
>>260747481
Honestly, if i hadnt lost the code to my warcraft 3 id be playing custom games with /v/ right now.
>>260747348
>wow
>going f2p
>>260737085
Best RPG was Gaia's Retaliation. I really would have liked to see what the finished Final Fantasy Forever would look like.
>>260743214
Image you had to be able to perform at 80 cs/deny at 10 minutes in Dota, minimum, to not lose all games.
As a RTS, Warcraft succeded, but it also failed because custom was a lot more fun than actually learning how to play.
I honestly think Starcraft is easier to learn, just for the sake starcraft units are expandable compared to warcraft units.
>>260744563
>We have a 100% working scripting language, but we better not make a working container format and redistribution system
>Let it be a 5GB download just for a script & material editor
Volvodrones, gentlemen
I was just in a LAN playing TFT. It was fun and now I'm slightly sad because I'm sitting alone in my home. I wish it was 2002-2004, easily the best years of my life playing TFT custom games non stop and I made few really good friends too.
>>260746874
Progames of wc2 are almost exlusively orc vs orc because of ogre bloodlust.
There is a benefit to humans, but bloodlust is very strong.
>>260746663
Did you even read what we talked about? No one is saying that the editor is shit, people are saying that its hard to use. Most of the maps people played with Warcraft 3 was maps made using the GUI code system and not JASS. At the moment DotA 2 does not have anything like that. It was the creative people that made Warcraft 3's custom game what it was, not the programming people.
>>260747348
>WC4
>Sold separately with 3 full prices 'Expansion packs' announced at launch
>$60
>$20 to unlock Panda and Pony races
>Everything is a pop culture reference
>Custom Map scene fully automated, you can't even host and have to submit maps to Blizzard after paying a 'Submission Fee'
>Using the Map editor requires a $4.99 monthly subscription
It hurts...
>>260746874
Ogre-Magi > anything.
Wc1 is primitive shit, WC2 is just simplistic, zero depth, with shitty pathfinding, don't bother comparing them with WC3.
I never thought it would end. Like, I thougt WC3 was going to ruin my fucking life with how much I loved it. I sank thousands of hours into that game. It's almost surreal to think back to what a staple that was of my gaming routine.
And then it slowly filled with DotA, and bots, and map hackers, and all of the shit that ruined every Blizzard game (looking at you Diablo 2).
Blizzard was such a glorious company back then. The amount of games on WC3 made it its own fucking medium. WC3 wasn't a game, it was a platform.
Best online game? WC3 certainly could've been it, though I think TFC probably is also up there. Diablo 2 is great as well, but I don't actually remember playing much with random people on the internet, just a lot of co-op.
This isn't counting MMOs though, since those are on a different level entirely. They're not something you can just hop in and have fun with buddies on.
>>260747872
It's been hemorrhaging subscriptions, MoP was the worst expansion to date and WoD has taken 6 months longer than any other expansion to come out.
Only the most diehard shiteaters are left to chug down this time travel outland rehash.
niggas aint got shit on my are you a retard map
>>260746398
your first 2 points are retarded. Are you actually bitching about having to subscribe to a mod so you can get updates? How is searching for [custom game] in the workshop different than searching for it on some other site?
Also, who gives as hit about the size.
>>260743214
>Did any of you faggots every actually play the game
Yes, but even before in starcraft the custom games were better.
>of your shitty RP games and DotA clones?
You're being dishonest or retarded if you think that was just what custom games were.
>>260748174
>Custom Map scene fully automated, you can't even host and have to submit maps to Blizzard after paying a 'Submission Fee'
I will never comprehend what they were thinking when they developed the new map system.
You can't even give your games a name so players know which modes/difficuly you're gonna pick, and sometimes they instantly leave after the game starts because they don't like the options you chose
WC3 thread?
here some oc
>>260747675
there's a bot for it, it has a bit of a learning curve but it's one of the hardest tower defense maps out there
if you want hard maps for other genres, the latest enfos on hosting bots is pretty fucking tough, fortress survival on the hardest difficulty is extremely tough, the OLD hero line wars lition was good (back when the scorpions or whatever the first mob you spawn can easily kill you) keys of sealing is IMO the most difficult dota style game that isn't just dota itself (but i don't know if any hostbots run that one, all the aforementioned ones are currently being hosted by a bot in some form)
>>260748230
And don't even bother comparing WC3 to CoH/RA2/R:TW you mindless blizzdrone.
>>260748749
RoC campaign was fucking based.
Didn't like the one TFT that much, but at least it was a little more challenging.
>>260744949
>Bad grammar
>Edgy and contrarian
>Shitposting for no reason
>Joker reaction image xD
>Probably underage
Literal cancer.
RATE YE TOP TEN
1. BATTLE FOR MIDDLE EARTH GOAT
2. HLW
3. ANGEL ARENA
4. LINE TOWER WARS
5. UTHER PARTY
6. FF WINTERMAUL
7. ANY OTHER MAUL
8. LOAP
9. HERO WARS WINTER
10. KINDERGARTEN WARS
>>260748464
I don't think you even understand what the Warcraft III unit library did for the custom map scene.
Dota is currently 30-40 units short of being on the same page, and thats with allowing cosmetics to be put on the wrong heroes for diversity.
If it turns into everything packed with 100-200 megabytes of very shitty custom models, music and whatever, its going to be even worse.
Warcraft III had to stand on the fact that the graphics and music provided by default was good.
Seriously, come and say any of the Dota 2 music is good, because its bland shit at the moment.
>>260745392
Isn't arcade free though? SC2 is more massively disappointing than it is just bad (especially customs), but I thought you could play sc2's arcade for free so it's like who cares
>>260747602
Dude, I'm a fucking dota player.
>TF2 is so perfectly balanced
Yeah, that's why people barely changed from 2 scouts, 2 sold, 1 demo and 1 medic setup in i52 and several items are banned.
>>260743214
I think the heroes ruin the melee-games. In the end they get too strong and ruin all the fun. Custom games were at lot more fun even though I did enjoy watching some pro player replays.
>>260747872
it will happend once people get tired of it and blizzard stops releasing expansions for it, sooner or later it is gonna die and there's nothing anyone can do about it
>>260749030
>can't argue blizz been fucked since WC3
>picks some stupid shit
lol blizzfag u mad?
>>260748749
Oh nice.
I actually streamed the wc3:roc campaign on hard for some friends, after a friend kept failing on stream on like the 4th human map on hard.
Final undead map was the first one I lost on.
Only lost once though and I was seconds I think away from succeeding.
It was less than a minute at most, but I think it was even less than 10 seconds left.
God damn siege tanks managed to ruin my infrastructure by destroying my Halls of the Dead and some other buildings so I couldn't build anything useful for too long.
