Does this have any chance of being good, /v/?
Just downloaded Mother 3+English patch and about to dig in and noticed this was a thing.
It has a chance, but we won't see until it comes out.
It has a lot better chance ever since Chase "left".
it has no chance
itoi put his heart and soul into those games, without him they'll just be "JRPG with a sense or humor" like half the ones on the market.
it's going to suck. it's clear from the trailer they released that they have absolutely no clue what made the Mother series good and are not suited to making their own.
Cautiously optimistic
shiggy hello
>>253831105
On the fence, just like everything else about life that I don't have a informed opinion on
>>253831105
Please stop making these threads with old concept art and shit, you are obviously just shitposting and trying to start something.
>>253831792
Like 90% of the people who watched that trailer said the opposite.
As far as what I think on it I really, really have to wait and see. I think they're putting a lot into it and they took out the fanfic tier people from being in charge.
>>253831105
Nobody cares about your shitty fan game.
Your team is all assholes for calling it 4.
>>253831893
/vp/ pls go
It might be good, but it sure as shit won't be Mother 4. Itoi is Mother.
>>253832093
>people seriously think the devs would use shit from when the game was absolute ass to look at
Do you see that logo anywhere on the website? No?
That exact image has been used to make so many shitposting threads.
>>253832045
>>253832093
Sorry. I really wasn't trying to shitpost. I just put "Mother 4" into google images and that came up. I honestly don't know anything about it outside of the fact that it's in development and is coming out at the end of the year.
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uj3zitETs4
>>253832164
heh, that was mygirlfriend'stag. I forgot to take it off. Now I look like a dork.
>>253832432
SURE SURE
>>253832045
Now, I'm pretty neutral on this fan game, my only complain is that I think they really should drop the Mother 4 title and adopt a subtitle, OR put a biiiig "THE FAN GAME" subtitle after Mother 4 because a lot of people are going to be confused. I know I was when I first saw a post here on /v/ with "Mother 4", my heart almost came out of my chest, then when I finally saw "fan game"..... yeah, I kind fo resent this game because of that fake hype moment.
However, I'm not gonna judge the game until it comes out.
HOWEVER, the game itself IS fanfiction. It's going to be fans doing fiction on an already existing IP, that is fanfiction in every way you look at it.
Even if it didn't turn out to be an absolute piece of crap, how could it be do anything different than what has already been done in the series? It looks like it's all driven by nostalgia and fan wankery instead of trying to really understand what made previous games in the series good. This is why most fan projects are doomed to fail when they're not C&D'd. You're better off just playing the official games instead of some fan-made nonsense.
I still need to play 3. The problem is that there's a good chance it would be like Itoi-lite. It might look like his game. Has a bit of his writing. But there will always be something in the back of your head that feels something is off. And that's just the best case.
>>253832045
>Please stop making these threads with old concept art and shit
It's not like people are going to just post in this thread without looking anything up, right?
I mean, who'd be so stupid to do that?
>>253831792
That trailer showed exactly jack shit.
Like, what the hell are you seeing in that trailer that leads you to this, because there's almost nothing in it.
I think it may be possible that I'm the only anon on /v/ that found Mother 3 to be a boring piece of shit.
>>253832280
www.mother4game.com
There, I fixed your problem. Jesus. It's literally the first result on Google.
incidentally the second result is a guy admitting to killing a mother of 4
>>253832724
It may. Mother 3 was outstanding.
>>253832530
W-why would I play as a g-girl anyway?
>>253831407
who's chase
>>253832770
I found the site already, but thanks. I wasn't aware the game had changed so much over the course of development.
No Itoi, no Mother.
Have fun with your fanfic or whatever but don't call it Mother.
>>253832847
>>253832724
I don't think he's the only one. Some people just don't like the type of game.
I would like to know why becuase I thought it was extremely good. It's not excessively grindy, it has some humor and charm, the musical battle system is pretty fun especially with the crazy timed music later in the game, and the story is pretty emotional.
>calling it mother 4 when you're not affiliated with the company
Pretentious and disrespectful.
Wait, Nintendo made a Mother 4? Great, I can't wait to see how the story continues.That is preciesely why I hate the fact that the developers called the game Mother 4. It's confusing, and disrespectful. They have some serious nerve to claim that their game is part of the main series.
>>253832537
Nobody's confused, man. They have it in the first ten seconds of the trailer and it's in the FAQ in big letters.
>>253832607
I get the exact opposite impression from Pastel on starmen.net, he's always like "no references" and shit, and talks at length about why certain things would be bad to include and the things he does talk about including sound really good.
Like he wouldn't let anybody give PSI ideas because of how every PSI fits a niche and is balanced out and additional offensive PSI just doing "reasonable damage" would be stupid and boring to deal with.
I think the best thing they can do is be self aware and instead of doing Itoi's Japanese view on American culture do an American view on Japanese culture thing, which is what it looks like based on Meryl and Leo's designs.
What do if it turns out to be better than the official games?
I thought Itoi said fans should make Mother 4?
>>253833189
Honestly, how hard would it be to just called it Rock Candy Adventures or something as an homage. I can think of a hundred names related to Mother that would be better than calling it Mother 4, implying an official sequel.
>buh the devs know it's not
I don't care, if they love Mother as much as they claim they'd change it.
>>253833075
Or don't call it Mother 4 at least. Call it Mother Tribute.
>It's good
>Actual Mother 4 comes out
>The fangame falls into obscurity
>It's bad
>People sometimes think the badness of it is related to an official product because of the name
>Actual chance of a real Mother 4 is undermined
>>253832537
>>253833075
>>253833145
>>253833189
ITOI: I’m not going to release a MOTHER 4; MOTHER is over now.
ITOI: The feeling of, “I want a MOTHER 4 to be released!” is inside me, too. Even if it’s not something I need to do, I still feel that way. Still, there isn’t someone for me to watch over from afar anymore. If there were a fourth game, I’d want to be the player.
http://earthboundcentral.com/2011/04/shigesato-itoi-discusses-mother-4/
>>253832964
The original Director, Produce, Lead Writer, etc. for Mother 4. The main protagonist use to be called Chase, it was clearly a self-inserted character.The news post about him leaving isn't exactly true
>>253833189
They don't claim that anywhere. The only reason it's called that is because like a month after the Mother 3 translation came out there were a fucking billion Mother 4 fan games in the fan forum of Starmen.net and this game was one of them. it's the only one that's changed and developed though.
>>253832964
The guy who made the first thread. It was literally nothing but "Hehe the game is gonna be really good just wait it'll be better than earthbound :))" then his team kicked him out for being a self inserting chucklefuck.
This seems familiar
>>253833137
It's the only RPG I played that doesn't feel like a overcomplicated mess
It's a fan game trying to pass itself off as an official part of the series.
Think about it and you'll realize how fucking retarded the whole thing is. Plus the legality of it all is extremely questionable.
>>253833532
It's pretentious and disrespectful.
>>253833145
Itoi said that if Mother 4 was a thing, it would be by someone else because he was not going to make Mother 4. Motherfags being huge assburger zealots took his words literally.
>>253833552
He's not listed on the staff page, some new guy even newer than the guy that replaced Chase is doing all the writing and game design, and apparently cleaned everything up to high heaven, and he never posts in the forum.
Even if he still talks to them and makes a sprite here and there, he's not on the team. He obviously has no sway anymore, that's enough for me.
>>253833658
>>253833726
>series creator literally says there won't be another game ever, he'd like to play it if someone else makes it
>i-it's disrespectful!
literally what
>>253833607
http://boards.deniableplausibility.net/v/search/text/Mother%204/
>>253833618
Play Dragon Quest. It's basically the same system. It only gives you the spells you need.
>>253833532
What kind of pretentious pricks take this literally and think they can make a proper sequel? I thought these were supposed to be hardcore fans of the series?
>>253831105
Can I get a link to those things as well? Haven't played 3 yet.
Wow this thread just attracted abunch of assuming assholes. Not very surprising, but still.
Now time to sit back and wait until someone posts that comic I made a long time ago when these threads started becoming a thing.
>>253833785
That's literally the opposite of true, though.
The reason it's called Mother 4 is in this post, right here:
>>253833565
This is why I hate threads like this, OP. The same people say the same shit for 210 posts (11 images).
>>253833137
>and the story is pretty emotional.
The emotional stuff felt very forced to me. But then again I found it hard to feel attached to a cast of characters that rarely speak.
>>253834018
>Itoi says Mother is over
>a bunch of retarded weeaboos take one line of a translated interview out of context to make it seem like Itoi was telling his fanbase to make the game anytime they feel like it
Dem delusions
>>253834056
>god these kids are pretentious for doing exactly what the series creator said they could do!
???
>>253834139
>>253834031Well that was fast, even though it was an edited version.
I don't see why they need to call it Mother 4 really.
>>253834139
Can't be as bad as the shota dumps
>>253834018
It's a combination of piggybacking off another man's work, trying to associate yourself with them and making the claim of "Yes, this fangame I made for free is good enough to be considered part of the series."
Pretentious & disrespectful-kun pls stop samefagging.
>>253834250
What kind of true fan honestly thinks they can continue a series molded almost completely by one man's idea?
I like Star Wars but I wouldn't presume to be able to make a proper sequel
>>253834224
what kind of logic are you even sputtering? what does it mean if he says "I'd like to be the player" of a game he isn't going to make other than that someone else can make it?
also, you are legitimately this mad over a fangame. just mull that over
>>253834181
The trick was to give the characters your family's names
>>253834417
That's a pretty awful example considering literally anyone besides Lucas would be better
I tried watching some fag play Earthbound. It was honestly boring as shit and I will never understand why people are so obsessed with it.
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>>253834073
This
They should change the name, that's what MegaPhilX did.
>>253834417
Apparently everyone else's head canon turned up to be better than what Became eventually known as the Star Wars prequels
>>253834417
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Expanded_Universe
next you're gonna tell me that fanart isn't real art
>>253833889
Almost everything had to be cleaned up, aside from some designs. That's how much of a parasite he was to the team despite starting it up.
>>253834541
Because deep crying fetus final boss
>>253831105
Music sounds pretty swell
>https://soundcloud.com/shanemesa/momandcookingandstuff
>>253834531
>>253834658
Lucas was good when someone was around who would shoot down his dumber ideas.
>>253834531
>>253834658
>>253834689
I don't care what a clusterfuck Star Wars is, I'm just saying that I don't presume that I could continue where someone left a 3 game series/film/book/whatever
>>253834541
>Watching someone play a RPG and thinking it's boring
RPG is more of a personal thing. It's not meant to be a pure action thing. It's meant to be taken slowly as you travel the world.
>>253834560
>>253834139Took you long enough.
>>253834707
Jesus Christ. I'm so glad Chase is gone. Apparently the last guy was pretty bad too, considering they didn't release shit for years and years then suddenly Pastel comes on and there's a trailer and a release date.
>>253834475
Artists say a lot of ridiculous things all the time, doesn't mean you should take it out of context for some autistic fan game. You're legitimately this mad over my opinion, just mull that over
>>253834838
then ignore the game if you aren't interested, seriously
the series is great with it, and hopefully it'll be fun for those who are interested
don't be a negative man
Why do people keep posting in these threads when it's just trolls posting bait to get replies?
I mean, the same exact thing is said in every thread, it's not even good bait, and if you really want to talk about the series, don't attempt to turn a troll thread into a legitimate one.
>>253833190
>Nobody's confused, man.
I was at first. And many people who won't bother to check out the trailer and just see "Mother 4" casually will believe there's a Mother 4 out. I really think it's not a good idea, but whatever, I know I will be called a hater or stuff. I'm not against this fan game being made, but I think the title should be something else.
>>253833532
uh.... and? Itoi also said Mother 4 could be a theatre play, Animal Crossing or even the lives of all the people who played the Mother series.
I think the whole "I'd want to be the player" is more his subtle way of saying "I'm done developing games for now, it's too stressful", he always complained about how stressful it was to develop games, even though he enjoyed the experience.
He also didn't say "hey, fans, make a game".
But anyway, I don't think Itoi would give a fuck about this fangame (now, Nintendo the company, not so sure), but that's not the point, the point is that Itoi says many things, the whole "but he said he wants to be the player for Mother 4" doesn't serve as an excuse to call a fan game "mother 4".
disclaimer: just in case, and again, because I know the devs/friends of the devs of Mother 4 fan game browse /v/, and some other apologists always jump defending them, I'm NOT against this fan game being made, I simply don't like the title. And I have my reasons as I explained, but whatever, they won't change the name it seems.
Last trailer I saw makes me feel the game has promise.
Never know.
>>253834928
Only posted it cause you mentioned it.
>>253835065
Look at it this way: If you don't research something and you believe it with no proof, it's your fault for believing it. Nobody is trying to mislead anybody.
>>253831105
Fuck off with your shills. Nobody wants your fanmade shit.
>>253835052
I'm going to, my entire point was that I think it's really pretentious and kind of backwardly against the idea of Mother. Itoi makes Mother what it is. I don't think that anyone other than a close writer/creator to Mother could make a true sequel.
>>253833190
>I think the best thing they can do is be self aware and instead of doing Itoi's Japanese view on American culture do an American view on Japanese culture thing, which is what it looks like based on Meryl and Leo's designs.
That's a good idea, but that's just even more of a reason not to call it Mother 4. Mother is a Japanese series full of American pop cultures references from a Japanese perspective.
Even then, the series still draws heavily from Itoi's own life experiences. Without him it's impossible to completely capture the spirit of the series.
>>253835156
This is how I feel. When I read what the director says on Starmen.net it has even more potential. Grant Kirkhope even tweeted about the game, apparently he's making music for it.
Like the legitimate Grant fucking Kirkhope, not a joke twitter account.
>>253834181
Maybe it's just because I can relate to the brotherly bond between Claus and Lucas, while we're not twins I can still feel for them.
And you can't tell me you didn't almost feel sort of bad for Porky. The dude tried to end the fucking world because Ness didn't want to be his friend because he was such a huge shit eating asshole.
So I keep hearing about this game (on /v/ and other forums and even in pop culture shows like robot chicken)
So what kinda game is it? Story game? Gameplay game? Also do you have to play Mother 1 and 2 before playing 3?
>>253835393
Earthbound was written entirely by a different guy. Most of Mother 2's text is heavily culturally contexted, so the writing in Earthbound is almost entirely original. Take that how you will.
>>253835393
Why is this so hard for people to understand? Mother is nothing without Itoi's heart. I'm astonished that people are ok with this but DAN HOUSER WROTE MAX PAYNE 3 STOP THE PRESSES CAN'T HAVE ANY MAX PAYNE THREADS ANYMORE WITHOUT HEARING ABOUT IT AGUAHGUAGHA
>>253834838
Don't worry, the difference between Star Wars and Mother is that Mother ended where it should and I'm just going to enjoy Mother 4 as it's own thing, regardless, George Lucas milked Star Wars as much as he could, and dumped the Prequels because money.
Mother is not a franchise for me. I never really liked first-person combat RPGs and I don't really like the minimalist sprite style. Always looked amateurish to me.
>NO ITOI NO MOTHER
>these niggers don't know about Earthbound's translator
>>253835494
You don't have to play Mother 1 but it has a lot of shared themes with the other games and especially 2/Earthbound.
>>253835494
It's a JRPG with a whimsical yet dark story. The combat is similar to any other JRPG but it has a rhythmic element to it and wacky abilities and stuff. Also rolling health is really nice. You don't have to play Mother 2 or 3 before it but it might help you get some references/characters.
>>253835494
It is a turn based RPG series widely regarded for having a lot of charm to it. While id say Earthbound is a fun ride I wouldn't consider it to be that fun of a game, a lot of it feels pretty dated, especially the inventory system. The same applies to mother except it is more dated. Mother 3 on the other hand feels a lot more polished from a gameplay standpoint. The same applies to Mother, except All are pretty good but Earthbound and Mother 1 kind of suffer from a gameplay standpoint where as Mother 3 doesn't
>>253835206
Look at it this way: not everybody is a die hard Mother fan, maybe some people will look at OP's pic, not bother entering the thread/watching the trailer, and they will believe there's a Mother 4 coming out, because there's no indication anywhere in OP's post that it is a fan game. I know it's outdated picture, but most of the Mother 4 promotional stuff I've seen barely says "the fan game", or they make the "fan game" subtitle way too little, it should be way more clear that this is not an official release. Because again, not everybody is a die hard Mother fan, many people might casually look a pics of it and think it's a real official game, which COULD lead to further confusion and misinformation, broken telephone-style.
I know, nobody is gonna die because of this, and it won't really affect the series in any way, but yes, it will cause confusion. And that's not cool.
>>253835654
See, I'm with you there completely except the name. Every time I see the name it throws me off completely. It's pretentious. I don't see why they just couldn't call it Mother: Rock Candy or Mother Tribute or something similar. I'd be fine with the game if the name was different.
>>253835730
Itoi worked very closely with him because many themes in Mother are personal to Itoi. Are you retarded or just misunderstanding the core concept of translation?
>>253835956
A five second google search would fix that.
>>253835460
Maybe it's to my only child syndrome kicking in. I'll definitely give you Porky though - he was a fantastically well done villain and his eventual fate was disturbing and satisfying.
I'm not sure why everyone is so damn angry over this.
for one it's a fan-game, people are taking time out of there lives to devote it to this game that has no real benefit for them, it's totally free so they aren't making money off it.
Itoi stated the following
>ITOI: I’m not going to release a MOTHER 4; MOTHER is over now.
>ITOI: The feeling of, “I want a MOTHER 4 to be released!” is inside me, too. Even if it’s not something I need to do, I still feel that way. Still, there isn’t someone for me to watch over from afar anymore. If there were a fourth game, I’d want to be the player
And you say
>It's pretentious and disrespectful!
I'll believe you when they start saying things like "This is better than anything itoi shat out." and only chase said anything even akin to this and look what happened to him.
another thing, people claim that making this game is taking what itoi said out of context.
>ITOI: The feeling of, “I want a MOTHER 4 to be released!” is inside me, too. Even if it’s not something I need to do, I still feel that way. Still, there isn’t someone for me to watch over from afar anymore. If there were a fourth game, I’d want to be the player.
What other context is there for that?
Look all i'm saying is this thread is really showing /v/ bitter jadedness.
>>253835956
That's what I'm saying though. There's no confusion anywhere except this thread. No Youtube comments, no comments anywhere, no threads on /v/, no news articles...
Scratch that last part. It was on Kotaku's front page for a month or something and not one person thought it was an official game. It's on their website's FAQ, Nintendo has said nothing about it... it is literally impossible to make that assumption if you do the most basic research, like looking for more images.
>>253836156
Some people aren't die-hard fans and won't do that. But they may tell their smash bros buddies "hey you heard? they're making a new Mother, those games where Ness is from".
Yes, people is stupid, but we can make things to prevent said stupidity from spreading around. For example, naming a fan0made game accordingly instead of calling it as if it was an official release.
It's not really that big of a deal. Again, I'm OK with this game being made, I just ask for a title that suits the project better. I don't like it being called "Mother 4".
>>253836267
He didn't say that at all, you lying fuck.
>>253836457
>>253836374
Jesus Christ. You do not have to be a die-hard fan to google something.There's also the fact that Itoi said, when he compared Animal Crossing to being Mother 4, that if a game was Mother 4 no matter how you look at it you might as well use the title.
>>253836267
The pretentious name really kills it. Call me vain if you want but if Itoi isn't involved, I don't see why a subtitle wouldn't be acceptable.
Mother: Another Story
Mother: Tribute
Mother: Rock Candy Chronicles - A fan story
Seems like if the devs really respected Itoi and the franchise they'd take the effort to make a new name. And why not? Because then the mod wouldn't be as successful without the Mother name? That's shady imo
>>253835494
Its hipster shit. I tried it back in 2010. fucking boring nonsense made for hipsters and >LE FEELS faggots.
combat/gameplay is generic - pokemon games are better
>>253835058
I want to fuck Meryl. I hope she's got a Paula thing with Travis so I can self insert.
>>253836457
Fine i'll spoonfeed you baby.
http://earthboundcentral.com/2011/04/shigesato-itoi-discusses-mother-4/
>>253836624
He doesn't even speak English. Gullible idiots.
>>253836805
Because subtitles universally sound like shit and because >>253836723
>>253833726
>>253834056
Only faggots think that only one person has the ability to understand or create a particular experience.
You guys are literally no better than SJWs. You throw around shit without any facts to back them up because that's how you "feel".
It's obviously called Mother 4 because the creator expressly stated he would not make a 4th and invited the fans to do so.
This is a tribute to the creator and a continuing of the series for the fans.
Maybe you should stop shitting on it until it actually comes out you pretentious faggots.
>>253837038
But it sure makes more sense as a title than a numbered title as if it were a direct sequel
>>253836830
>>253836723
>Jesus Christ. You do not have to be a die-hard fan to google something.
I know, I meant that some people will just not bother checking out the source and just assume Mother 4 is an official game, and misinform other people, but whatever, I don't think it'll really happen anyway. But some people out there WILL be confused, however, as you said, it's mostly their own problem.... could be prevented by simply naming the fan-game accordingly as I said though. Mother 4 is not a fan-game appropiate game.
>There's also the fact that Itoi said, when he compared Animal Crossing to being Mother 4, that if a game was Mother 4 no matter how you look at it you might as well use the title.
Link? I remember the Animal Crossing part, but not the title part. At any rate I don't think he ever mentioned a fan game, in any of his interviews, ever.
>>253836940
He doesn't speak English
>>253837152
What if that's what the actual story is like?
What if there is a point to calling it Mother 4?
What if, and this is a hard concept, they aren't being disrespectful pretentious fucks and are just keeping the name because that's how it started?
>>253835065
>I was.
>I decided not to read things but I'm still going to blame others for my lack of knowledge.
>Other people might be retarded like me so it becomes someone else's fault because I didn't want to read.
You are the cancer killing games. You are the reason every developer feels like they need to spoon feed you faggots.
You should really end your life. Tonight. Violently.
>>253837239
>>253836952
IT'S A TRANSLATION YOU FUCKTARD!
>I’ve gone through that discussion between Itoi and Iwata that was in the BRUTUS magazine the other day. Here’s a rough translation of it, as usual it’s sometimes kind of hard to pin Itoi’s thoughts down into something that makes sense, but it should get his basic ideas across.
>>253837108
So you're saying these weeaboos are going to create something on Itoi's level and should continue the series "for the fans"? Holy shit that's dumb
>>253836830
enjoy being dead inside
>>253837404
LOL, why are you so angry? Are you the dev of Mother 4?
I was confused for a moment, and it was the first time I saw a Mother 4 thread here on /v/ (this was years ago... 2010 or so, I think), I was like "WHAT!!!", then I clicked on the site, read "fan game", and flipped the table.
My confusion didn't last more than a few seconds, but it was indeed very annoying.
Kisses.
>>253834541
>I tried watching some fag play Earthbound
>It was honestly boring as shit
Do you even know what an RPG is?
It's not about the action and flashiness of what's going on screen, but it's more about the personal connection between the player and the character itself.
The combat is more based on number crunching and possibility tweaking. Upgrading, exploring and uncovering parts of the world and experiencing the quirky facets of the story and characters are mostly the charm and incentive that drives the player to go through.
You're not going to get the same experience as you would actually playing it for yourself.
If you're interested in a game, play it. Don't watch some faghole play it.
If it's not for you, look elsewhere.
>>253837292
Isn't that the opposite of making a fan game? The only reason for the name Mother 4 is because it's a sequel to Mother 3
So is this whining about names or can we just talk Mother series ITT?
>>253837457
Then why take his words literally when they've been changed by somebody else? Intentions and subtleties are lost going from Japanese to English.
>>253837694
Holy shit how is making a fan sequel the opposite to making a fan game
>>253837404
This is the kind of people that defend this pretentious hipster fan game being made.
Use cyanide.
>>253837457
You're proving the point buddy. It IS a translation
and
>as usual it's sometimes kind of hard to pin Itoi's thoughts down into something that make sense
Stop reaching so hard
>>253837750
The fan game killed the Mother threads forever.
there is noone to blame. both supporters of the game and the haters are all to blame, not just one side.
Fuck you all for ruining the magnificent Mother threads we used to have back in 2008/2009.
>>253837970
I- is that a yes?
>>253837752
This is it.
No one in the entire history of the planet, nor internet, ever before or ever again, will grasp at straws this hard.
>>253837752
>>253837828
>Those delusions.
>>253837818
A fan game isn't related. A fan sequel implies connection to other games/characters and progressing the Mother timeline
A fan game would have nothing to do with the Mother story, it'd just look like a Mother game with some decent music
>>253837970
Have you ever considered that everything worthy of discussion from those games has been exhausted in over half a fucking decade of talking about them?
>>253838062
Mother threads are dead.
Your last chance is /vr/, both Mother 3 and the fan game would be forbidden from discussion because of not being retro. But you might slip some Mother 3 discussion if the thread is going well, just don't mention the fan game.
>>253838145
I'm delusional but you're putting faith into an admittedly difficult translation and trying to take it literally.
Oh the ironing
>>253834771
>All that music
Honestly, it all sounds like shit.
Half baked melodies and a lack of atmosphere.
The Music of Mother 4 Videos had VERY good music I'd love to listen to in full. All the shit on here is pretty dull and spacious.
I mean, the remixes have better composition but that's because they're remixes of good songs.
What happened to the drop in quality between the teased music and tha actual Soundcloud music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcbfxGFyk5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFSMEQloTM
>>253837970
No they didn't. Where have you been? We've had three successful Mother threads just today, and a couple days ago one hit bump limit and was about Mother 4 in the later half and there was none of this shit flinging.
Somebody in the thread put it best:
>Mother 4 discussion in Mother threads works.
>Threads about Mother 4 are shitposting.
>>253838201
Have you ever considered that there's always new people getting into the series? Really, take your head out of your asshole.
>>253838282
Once upon a time, you killed yourself and I lived happily ever after.
The end.
>>253838351
>getting into the series
Nigger it's like two games. What kind of autist wants to talk about two games for SIX YEARS STRAIGHT.
>>253838201
People still talk about the Illiad*. You can't really exhaust all avenues of discussion with something, especially if a lot of people like it.
*I am not implying anything in the Mother series even compares to the Illiad.Even if the Illiad is just a case study in classicist masturbation that holds no real value to the modern reader.
>>253838519
There's 3 games and one was only fairly recently translated for us gaijin. The (relatively) recent buzz from Mother 3's translation and Lucas in Brawl drew a lot of new fans in.
>>253838337
I don't know, I'm not on 4chan 24/7, but the times I've seen Mother 4 discussion, it was ALWAYS shitposting (and not only from the haters, but also from the apologists, who honestly are also very rude and pretentious, they're as annoying as the people who think Nintendo should C&D the fangame, which is also rude and unfair).
In my experience, Mother 4 always ruins Mother threads, and it's not really a thing of who's right or who's wrong, the behavior of both sides is wrong. It's really a shame.
>>253838519
>tfw you beat Mother 3 a week ago and you're going through Earthbound right now, and you really want to talk about it because you like the games
Sorry for invalidating your argument, anon.
>>253838840
You know what's a shame? Ruining Itoi's life work by associating his work with a shitty fangame presenting itself as official.
Tesry
>>253838998
I can only imagine Itoi playing a translated version of Mother 4. Like having your kids thrown into the river in a burlap bag
>>253838840
Well... you made me feel a bit guilty, I admit. I'm one of those who defend the fan game because I think assholes who complain about "muh itoi" are just stupid, the fan game looks like it's being made with a lot of love and effort, but putting it like you did... I guess you're right, I'm also part of the shitposting.
I will stop now.
>>253833726
>>253834056
>>253835065
>Itoi is never going to make a new Mother game
>Nintendo is very unlikely to make one either
With all of the negative attention this game has gotten due to its name I would expect that multiple people have probably already reported it to Nintendo in the hopes of it getting bombed with a Cease & Desist order.
That hasn't happened yet. Nintendo clearly doesn't give a shit and neither should you. But if it matters to you that much you should probably send Nintendo an email too, the worst that's gonna happen is that they'll have to change the name and drop all the textual references to Mother.
Would it redeem it for you if at some point Itoi gave the game his blessing?
>>253839193
Like seeing your daughter go into pornography.
>>253839193
he'd probably find it touching that people cared enough to put that much time and effort into not just making the game but translating it so people like him could play it
seriously the guy is a sentimental dude
>>253839348
Yeah actually. A name change or Itoi's blessings would do wonders for me.
I guess that's why people are reaching so hard at that one badly translated line in that one interview being cited in the thread.
>>253838998
>Presenting itself as official
Stop.
They fucking aren't.
>>253839348
The only place they get negative attention is /v/, which has been sending emails to Nintendo's legal department for years over it. They do not care one bit.
>>253838998
>FAQ: Is this official?
>Mother 4 is a fan-made addition to the cult-classic series Mother. We are NOT affiliated, associated, authorized, endorsed by, or in any way officially connected with Nintendo of America Inc., Shigesato Itoi, HAL Laboratory, Inc., or any of its subsidiaries or its affiliates.
>>253839592
The name itself makes it sound official. It sounds like a direct sequel.
And what if, like all fucking artists, Itoi changes his mind or made plans since that old interview? Kojima wasn't going to make any more MGS but here we are with MGS fucking V
>>253839592
I'm going to make a car, it'll be called the "Buick Grand National." No relationship to the actual National, I don't know why everyone thinks Buick made this one. It's not my fault.
>>253839847
because the fan game is a fan sequel.
why is that so hard to understand
>>253839809
>fan made addition
What is this supposed to mean? It's an addition to 3? It's a spin off of a character from Mother? Another reason that almost any name they could have picked would have been better
>>253838840
>it was ALWAYS shitposting (and not only from the haters, but also from the apologists
THIS.
The apologists for Mother 4 are just as cancerous as the people who overreact over the game title.
it's just a fucking fangame, WHATEVER.
I also hate how this shit ruined every Mother thread.
>>253839568
>>253839592
>The only place they get negative attention is /v/
Really? No other Earthbound/Mother fans are insulted by it, like at Starman.net or wherever? I find that hard to believe.
I'm surprised that no one has gotten in contact with Itoi directly about the matter too, honestly. All that's brought up about him and Mother 4 is that old-as-dirt interview. I assume he's an old traditional dude that doesn't bother with the internet so he must be hard to get a hold of.
>>253839847
Well then they'd probably change the name. The only reason they're calling it Mother 4 is because Itoi and/or Nintendo aren't bothering to make one.
>>253839959
Sequel to what?
>>253840040
it means the series canonically is done and Itoi's not making more, so some fans are making an extra game that could fit into the series if you want to think of it like that
>>253839850
What moron would think that any real Mother game would get released on the fucking PC without the Nintendo name anywhere on it?
>>253840336
>that could fit
there's the pretension
>>253839847
If Itoi wants to make Mother 4 eventually, he'll do just that. A fangame doesn't really affect that at all.
>>253840193
>I assume he's an old traditional dude that doesn't bother with the internet so he must be hard to get a hold of.
do you know anything at all about the man? he's been posting on his website daily for 16 years
http://www.1101.com/index.html
>>253840405
What morons would name their fanfic game after an official Nintendo series?
>>253840196
You know the woman in the elevator in the Montoli building?Is there any porn of her?
>>253840436
do you think it's pretentious to do any kind of work based on somebody else's? are musical covers bad? is fanart? are remixes?
>>253840560
Literally every fangame ever
>>253840503
>do you know anything at all about the man?
No, admittedly I don't, I didn't know that he posts online at least. Is there any reason no one has asked him the question "what do you think about the fangame Mother 4?"
>>253840672
That's what drawthreads are for, anon.
>>253840717
I think it depends on the context. Mother 4 doesn't have any
I wish someone would make a good Sonic fan game and call it Sonic 4. The official Sonic 4 is awful.
>>253840784
he probably doesn't know and probably wouldn't mind. he's on good terms with people in the American fanbase, some people from Starmen.net even worked for him and he watched their stream of EB on virtual console
SHIT
>>253840125
Nobody cares anyway, they're too busy defending their own position, insulting the one who things different than them, instead of realizing they're completely ruining the Mother threads on /v/, who used to be awesome.
Anyway, as another anon said, we still have /vr/, good Mother discussion is possible there from time to time outside of the occassional "Earthbound is overrated". /vr/ also appreciates Mother 1 a lot more.
>>253840839
Mother 4 is the most justifiable case possible, where the creator literally said there won't be any more official games in the series.
>>253841045
They said that easter eggs don't have secret information.
Guys, I'm going to make a sequel to Mother 3. It's going to be about, uh, the environment, and uh, growing up. It'll be really quirky and some really emotional parts that'll make you think. OH, and love's going to be a theme. Yeah.
Hope you don't mind, I'm just going to name the main character after myself. This's also my first game and I have no other experience, so please get really hype
You may now suck my penis
>>253841198
Can we choke on it?
Listen, shut up for a second. All of you, shut up.
Why are you so defensive? This is a question for both sides. Don't answer, because the answer is you love the Mother series. The people who hate the project don't want it to be tarnished, they love the series so much they can't see anything coming close and it's understandable. Who are these people, where did they come from, why are they calling it Mother 4? What kind of disrespect is that? The people who like the game want to play more Mother games. You like the world, these people seem like they might be able to give you more of that world. They might have cool ideas, the characters might be fun.
I get that.
If they didn't care, they'd still use the old graphics, Chase would still be on the team and still be acting like Itoi. They love the series too and I think they're trying to give back or give something new. I don't know. The devs are fans like us. Maybe they get emails from people that are excited... I don't know.
I just hate seeing this game break up a fan base when both sides are arguing from the same place. Will it be good? I have no way to judge that right now, and neither does anybody else. Yelling at one another and insulting one another doesn't do anything good for anybody.
Can we please stop?
>>253841198
Project's under new management. New guy knows his shit.
>>253841145still
>>253841121
Yea, and if Kojima actually quit making MGS at 2 and someone came out with MGS 3 it'd be the same?
>>253841368
yes? why wouldn't it be
if a chef makes a three course dinner and then says he has to go, is nobody allowed to serve dessert?
>>253841368
Yes, because then it'd be Snake Eater and that's completely justifiable.
>>253841352
New guy can suck my dick.does he really? I stopped following the project when I was a teenager
>>253841198
>>253841280
>>253841310
this
>>253841310
There was a pretty decent thread about Mother series music earlier. It was refreshing.
>>253841516
Nope, it's not from the mind of Kojima. It'd be completely different than what you wanted or expected.
>>253841509
Uh.. yes? Professional chefs don't want you anywhere near their perfectly crafted meals and have hand picked and close chefs make their desserts for them so it fits the three course meal.
>>253831105
It will have good graphics.
Can it compete with the script of a near-flawless third-take from an eccentric existentialist playwright? Doubtful.
>>253841310
This. They're obviously doing it out of love for the series. It would be way more insulting if they made some shitty "spiritual successor" like LISA and thought they could really one up Itoi just by putting jokes in the game and sold it.
>>253832292
>that pic
Fucking what
Just a thought but, what if it actually ends up as a fun game to play?
>>253841785
I think you're giving 3 too much credit.
Speaking of which a good number of Japanese people didn't like it for some reason.
>>253841741
Kojima already MADE something completely different from what we wanted or expected. Did you even play MGS2?
>>253841741
Itoi said he has nobody even to watch over to make a Mother 4 (in the same interview). come on, man.
>>253841952
Then it's just RPGmaker centered around DQ instead of FF, at best
>>253841904
It's from a webcomic
>>253842037
Did you forget the context here? We are talking about an unofficial fan game called MGS3
>>253841952
>Games
>Fun
Ha
How about we talk about other Mother fangames?
Anybody ever play Cognitive Dissonance? Nobody ever talks much about it, is it any good?
>>253842216
No, I'm just fucking with you because you happened to choose a shitty example. There's probably a better series to draw upon for such an analogy.
>>253841310
I have a feeling that a lot of the people bitching about the whole "4" thing don't actually give a shit either way.
The same bullshit has been parroted for ages, and given how people on /v/ generally act, I can't help but think that a lot of these people are just fishing for replies and not much else.
>>253841310
Shit, I'm sorry. I feel bad for insulting my brothers who love their Mothers. The title irks me, but pissing all over everything isn't fair, especially not pissing over people who want it to be good. I'm sorry, /v/.
I'm bad at JRPGs and old games. Should I try emulating the Mother series anyway?
>>253842287
Why can't this game have a non official sounding name like Cognitive Dissonance or Rock Candy like that album? I think it's because they'd lose popularity and no one would bother playing the game, which is where I think the shadiness of the games suggestive titles comes in.
>>253842492
Why can't you stop complaining about something that isn't going to change and just let other people have fun?
>>253842453
Yeah, they aren't particularly difficult like most JRPGs
>>253841310
I like this post, anon. Thanks.
>>253842492
Stop. Please read this thread to explain the title, and no it has nothing to do with Itoi's interviews. Its just the old title.
Also see >>253841310
There's no malice here.
>>253842453
EarthBound is pretty easy as far as JRPGs go. Give it a shot.
>>253842453
Try it, give it an hour maybe two.
If you don't like it, don't stress it.
>>253842595
Why can't people just be more original and not piggyback of another man's life work?
>>253842492
Their reasoning is that their project has been known as Mother 4 for a while and it would confuse people if they changed it now.
>>253833532
>h-h-he didn't mean it like THAT!
Oh woops I've been beaten.
Why do nintendrones become like ACfag when it comes to some games? Become super butthurt at something that you autistically repeat the same thing every thread and make demands the devs won't hear?
>>253842772
Yea well, hindsight is a bitch. Like I said, they don't want to lose the hype they've built up by choosing the direct sequel name. I understand it, but that doesn't mean I have to appreciate it
>>253842776
Stop. We're part of the same fan community, we like the same video games. We don't need to insult one another.
Here, remember this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZNv74aIGkU
I like this song.
>>253841952
it has rhythm combat back, so it should be.
>>253842492
The name "Mother Forever" was posted in a thread that a dev was in a while back.
He said something along the lines of what >>253842772 said, but if I remember correctly, he thought the name was pretty good.
>some of the old writers who wanted to put memes in the game were kicked from the team
Now I'm hyped.
>>253841310
Fucking this.
>>253843027
None of the devs post on /v/, I think they've said that somewhere. Something about it being bad taste.
>Itoi would have like, want peace love and harmony in these threads guys, stop being so mean :(
>>253843048
They weren't kicked, the others just said "let's not do that."
Either way they're trying to be really professional about it.
>>253842998
Then you should say that to the naysayers who've done nothing but act like a broken record.
>>253843281
Said the yeasayer ironically
>>253842998 http://youtu.be/JFS3j9MHdI4
I like that song too, but I like this one more.
>>253843164
Actually one has, he posted these.
>>253843281
I'm saying it to everybody. Nobody needs the last word here.
Look, listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WurTZJrpE
Remember this? Shit, we all loved this.
>>253843164
This happened a good while back before that teaser got thrown up.
He posted a clean gif of the PK Beam that would show up in the teaser later.
Plus this >>253843425 .
Seemed pretty damn legit.
>>253843164
>None of the devs post on /v/
We post all the time, though.
>>253843510
Yep.
>>253843428
Then don't be quoting me.
You made a big mistake doing that.
Another concern of mine is the music, since it's such a huge part of Mother. I don't really like what I've heard so far from Mother 4. I suppose I'll try it when it comes out but I'm still very skeptical
This looks cool, I'll give it a play when it's done.
Maybe Nintendo will realize how there's a small but active fanbase and even make their own. Then we have TWO Mother 4s. That's better than one.
>>253843425
>That animation
I might be a little hype.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Y4cmZ_3Yk
Has there been any games that have done this sort of thing before? Because I think it is really fucking neat.
>>253843601
>internet badass detected: do not fuck with
>>253843685
To my knowledge this has never been done in any game ever and it's pretty fuckingneat.
>>253843685
what exactly, overlapping different sounds? Super Mario World did it in 1990. I'm sure some other games must have done it before too.
>>253843425
>>253843592
Huh. Has anything like that happened lately?
Also I hope that PK Beam animation changes, it just looks bad to me.
>>253843834
>>253843685
There's also that last stand mechanic and that meter thatTHEY'VE YET TO TALK ABOUT.
>>253844023
I REALLY want to know what the fuck that meter does.
