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Previous thread >>1908112
Will 2016 be the year YH reunites?
Nope, publisher told Isayama that they will need three more years of manga.
There will be a filler arc where the wall church needs to be defeated. Luckily Connie is somehow revealed to be an eligible candidate for their pope equivalent.
After that there is a plot by the merchants and moneylenders union, and after that the thieves guild arc. So the fateful reunion make take a while still.
Then again in all honesty, in latest chapter Ymir has more death flags than the third SS division, so I'm not holding my breath.
>>1968519
No but I'm sure we'll see Ymir again (and not in flasbacks)
Postin' my faves to start off the thread.
Really sorry for posting this one, but it's just too fucking funny.
I like this pic because it's cute to imagine that Historia's titan form would be much larger than Ymir's.
Technically solo, but it's Ymir, so eh.
>>1968776
I like it.
>>1968519
Depends on how long this fight will be. My guess is at the end of this arc.
>>1968776
That's cute. I can't wait to see that scene animated, especially the part where Ymir spits Historia out.
>>1968776
Ymir looks adorable
Chapter 50, the last chapter in which we saw Ymir outside of flashbacks, was the first chapter published after the season finale of the anime.
How does this make you feel, /u/?
So who's this character in OP 2? She appears at least twice, maybe three times. Is it somebody who hasn't even appeared in the manga yet? Or am I just not recognizing an existing character?
>>1969450
I thought that's Eren.
>>1969450
That's Eren you idiot.
>>1969489
Not those other two Anon but it's Eren.
>>1969489
I thought it was the guy from Deadman's Wonderland at first lol
Also, it's definitely Eren.
>>1969789
>>1969845
You are going crazy because that is indeed Eren.
>>1969845
It's Eren.
Do you remember the scene when he first got eaten by the titan, before he awakened his powers, and he was swimming in a pool of blood inside its stomach?
>>1970121
Like, IF it were Eren, yes, I expect that would be the scene it's referring to. I'm just not seeing Eren when I look at that face, is all.
I guess I just need to accept it as "weird looking Eren".
From /a/
Compared to other characters, Sasha’s profile was the last one to be finalized. Her physical appearance details and her fundamental image were already planned at initial stage, but at that time her name was “Ymir.” The current Ymir’s characteristics - as someone who gives useful advice to Christa, and as the bearer of a secret that will be revealed as the story progresses - were initially planned for Sasha’s role.
The reason her name is not Ymir but rather Sasha is because I wanted to stick to the statement made in chapter 3 [Of the SNK manga]. At the time, it was already decided that those who “ranked top 10 among the cadets can choose which military branch they will be assigned to,” and when the story developed after that, I decided that “Ymir shouldn’t be in the top 10.” Because of this, it was necessary to create another character [to replace Ymir in the rankings], and that character became Sasha.
The current Sasha is someone who comes from a village. All her personal details, such as how she speaks in formal tone to hide her accent and her being the daughter of a hunter, were formed alongside the composition of the story. That’s why I say that her character’s establishment might be the last one amongst all.
Sasha’s name was taken from someone dubbed ”the world’s no. 1 comedian,” Sacha Baron Cohen, who always stars in radical comedic films like Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan, Bruno, & The Dictator. The reason I chose that name for her is because I always thought of Sasha as a comedienne.
>>1971280
One more thing: there is one chocolate product from Lotte called “Sasha.” Because the product name is the same as hers, I came up with the idea that her special trait is that she is a food lover. I am also familiar with the fact that if someone is a hunter’s daughter, the meat before her is also either from hunting or killing. This is another one of her important characteristics. It was easy to develop the concept of Sasha being a food lover [in the merchandise sense], because Sasha’s original food products became for sale during SNK’s campaign with Lawson [convenience stores] (laugh).
The concept of “eating” was also heavily influenced by the food researcher Fukuda Rika’s “Food Theory.” I became familiar with Food Theory because Fukuda Rika appeared in a radio program that I enjoy listening to every week. Simply put, Food Theory states that “whenever good people eat, they look like they are wholeheartedly enjoying their food,” “a person who prefers to stay anonymous won’t eat food,” and “bad people handle food crudely.” Thus, I might somehow have applied the theory to Sasha, and I also think the fact that the primitive way Titans handle their “food” is also influenced by it.
>>1971497
It's more like Ymir existed since the beginning, but he he needed someone to replace her in the top 10, so he created the character Sasha. Sasha being a food lover seemed to be a later concept he came up with after giving her that name, because of a chocolate product that was also called Sasha, so Ymir was never supposed to be liked that.
>>1971549
Since he says he already planned out Sasha's appearance when he was going to call her Ymir, does that mean actual Ymir was supposed to look like Sasha? That seems like what the quote is implying.
>>1971557
Yeah, that's what I get from this too. I'm not sure if he also modified her appearance a little after the changes. I think Isayama posted some early sketches of some characters on his blog and I think Ymir indeed looked a little different at first.
>>1971557
That's weird, I would have pegged it to be the other way around. Ymir looks like the protagonist to his prototype story down to the hairpin.
>>1971585
>Ymir looks like the protagonist to his prototype story down to the hairpin.
They looked more like genderbend Eren and Mikasa, which I'm pretty sure they also were.
>>1971280
Interesting, because Historia is the one who got in the top ten instead of Ymir due to Ymir tampering with results. So Isayama just really wanted to keep Ymir out of the top cadets.
>>1972613
What's this?
>>1972894
>>1972897
Domstoria a best.
There's something that's been bothering me.
A lot of fans dismiss the significance of Annie's titan scream. After all, Sasha said it reminded her of the scream of a dying animal, so the fans just assume it's nothing more than that. But every single character who talks about it in the anime likens it to the coordinate, talks about the coordinate as though it is a power akin to Annie's titan scream, and are even able to deduce the existence OF the coordinate, by extrapolating from their knowledge of Annie's scream.
So what IS Annie's titan scream? Is it truly some special power that only she has? How is it related to the coordinate? Could other warriors also have this scream, or powers like it?
>>1972922
>who talks about it in the anime
Sorry, I meant who talks about it in the manga
>>1972922
It is because when Annie screamed it attracted a lot of titans but she can't control them like the coordinate.
>>1972922
So far we have only seen mindless titan react to Annie's scream, so I guess it's supposed to be an ability. It work similar to the coordinate ability, beceause Eren also has to scream to use it.
>>1974244
>>1972908
Agreed
>>1974711
I don't normally like western art of anime characters but I like this.
>>1975251
Frieda really is siscon in this huh?
>>1975251
where can I read the rest?
I really can't imagine Ymir being dead.
If you take in to account all other character deaths they were all very blunt. And the fact that we still haven't learned much about Ymir and that one incident with "Ymirs people".
>>1975476
Grisha and Marco both died offpage, and the circumstances of their deaths were only revealed later. Why couldn't it be the same with Ymir?
Not saying I want this to be the case, only that it could be.
>>1975679
Grisha and Marco weren't exactly as prominent as Ymir in the manga. Grisha pretty much only ever appeared in flashbacks and Marco was incredibly minor and irrelevant. For a character that carries the name Ymir whom also had an entire arc dedicated to her it would be strange and even more so unsettling if she dies off screen.
>>1975476
I doubt Ymir is dead. we still need to learn more about her as a character, what role she played in the history of titans and after all is said and done I think YH will reunite.
>>1975683
I disagree that Grisha is less significant than Ymir. I think they are of comparable significance.
>>1975711
>we still need to learn more about her as a character, what role she played in the history of titans
All that could be revealed in a flashback of her death, the same way much information was revealed during the flashback of Grisha's death.
(Again, just playing devil's advocate here. Obviously I want her to be alive too, or I wouldn't be here.)
>>1975877
>All that could be revealed in a flashback of her death
I highly doubt she told them her lifestory. BR still don't even know Historia's real name, which means she barely talked to them, if they even talked at all.
>>1975877
Grisha was just a vessel through which Eren got the power. I bet all he was was one more of MT's titan army.
All of Grisha's secrets are stored in the basement. Literally had no use of Grisha being alive. Meanwhile with Ymir, what person could possibly reveal her whole life story? I very much doubt she told BR everything.
>>1975916
>I highly doubt she told them her lifestory.
No, but Zeke might already know her backstory, and might tell Bertolt and Reiner about it.
>>1975919
>Meanwhile with Ymir, what person could possibly reveal her whole life story?
Zeke. Has it not occurred to you that he is probably the one who turned her and Grisha into titans in the first place? He probably knows everything about both of them.
>>1975937
>No, but Zeke might already know her backstory, and might tell Bertolt and Reiner about it.
Still doesn't really make sense, unless he knew her personally, which is ulikely.
>>1975994
Ymir is not a primordial titan. She was titanized in 785, not 743. There is only one individual, so far as we know, who possesses the power to titanize people at will like that. Zeke and his warriors are almost certainly the ones who originally overthrew Ymir as queen.
In fact, my personal theory is that it was Ymir eating Marcel that actually triggered the attack on wall Maria in the first place. I think Zeke assumed that Ymir was going to try and infiltrate the walls and steal the Coordinate, in order to use it against Zeke to retake her throne, so he decided to invade the walls in order to find and stop her. It was only once neither she nor any of the Reisses showed up to stop him that he realized the Coordinate must have been lost, and decided to delay his attack on wall Rose for another five years while he sent Reiner, Bertolt, and Annie to perform reconnaissance.
Spoilers are out.
>>1976007
>In fact, my personal theory is that it was Ymir eating Marcel that actually triggered the attack on wall Maria in the first place.
Zeke mentioned that they'll be the one to change the cursed History, so this conflict has been going on for a very, very long time. She also ate Marcel very close to wall Maria. BRAM being close to wall Maria means breaching the wall has been their goal the whole time, even before Ymir showed up.
>>1976091
>She also ate Marcel very close to wall Maria. BRAM being close to wall Maria means breaching the wall has been their goal the whole time, even before Ymir showed up.
Someone on /r/shingekinokyojin also said this, when I posted my theory there. Where does it say this?
>>1976093
Ymir's comment for example in the extra pages. They also wore backpacks when she ate Marcel, so they were traveling at that time. Also adding that Zeke waiting five years to send BRAM doesn't really add up, because that would mean they were around 6-7 years old when Ymir attacked them as a mindless titan. They were clearly already older than that.
>>1976099
>Ymir's comment for example in the extra pages.
My copy of the manga doesn't have the epilogue of chapter 50 in it. What's the exact quote?
>They also wore backpacks when she ate Marcel, so they were traveling at that time.
They were warriors. They could have just been out training or something.
>Also adding that Zeke waiting five years to send BRAM doesn't really add up, because that would mean they were around 6-7 years old when Ymir attacked them as a mindless titan. They were clearly already older than that.
I said he waited five years to attack wall Rose, not wall Maria. He attacked wall Maria right away.
>>1976105
>My copy of the manga doesn't have the epilogue of chapter 50 in it. What's the exact quote?
>If you hadn't come to destroy this wall, I would have been stuck in an endless nightmare.
>>1976108
That's… weird. That would suggest that she didn't eat Marcel until AFTER wall Maria fell.
>>1976119
Or she ate him shortly before they were about to attack for the first time.
But Zeke's comment about the cursed History makes it obvious this conflict has been going on for a very long time anyway
>>1974246
Holy fuck I'm normally not a Yurifag but YH is the cutest thing in the entire world it fucking turned me. Dammit.
>>1976823
YH is Frieda approved.
>>1976934
Me too.
>>1977160
Check nyaa. They have all the current translated chapters.
>>1977163
under what title do I search it? I tried but it only shows the anime version Junior High
>>1977195
>under what title do I search it?
Junior High
http://m.ibtimes.co.in/attack-titan-season-2-spoilers-creator-hajime-isayama-reveals-ymir-holds-key-ultimate-665879
>Isayama explained that he wanted the character of Ymir to be mysterious and dark as she possesses a secret that will define the story and will also lead to the conclusion of the manga series.
>Though Isayama didn't reveal much about what secret Ymir holds, it seems that it must be something about the origins of the Titans and the world from where they came.
So Ymir confirmed for still being alive.
>>1978011
Fucking hell of course. Stop listening to retards from /a/.
>>1978011
Seems like a fake article. I remember a translation of that interview posted on/ a/, And nowhere did it mention Ymir being the key to the story.
Can someone post the guidebook page that said that YH held the keys to the revelation of the mysteries
>>1978090
>>1978011
>So Ymir confirmed for still being alive.
The scene where we learned of Grisha's death contained a huge amount of information about the world of the story. This does not confirm Ymir being alive at all. The flashback of her death could reveal whatever secrets it needs to reveal.
Obviously, noone wants Ymir to be dead. I'm just saying we shouldn't delude ourselves with false hopes. There's no way for us to know at this point what actually happened to her. She could be alive, or she could not be alive. We just have to continue gnawing on our fingernails and waiting to find out.
>>1978366
>he flashback of her death could reveal whatever secrets it needs to reveal.
I doubt she told BRZ anything. BR still don't even know Historia's name and called her Christa, which means she didn't talk to BR that much. I also see no reason why she would randomly tell them the secrets of titans or whatever important knowledge she has.
>>1978383
>I doubt she told BRZ anything.
No, but Zeke probably knows a whole bunch about Ymir, and might tell Bertolt and Reiner about her and who she was.
>>1978415
That just means he has info about her, not the info she knows, assuming he even knows anything about her. Actually if he really knows her, it might be the reason he hasn't killed her yet. Also, if she is indeed dead, I don't know why Zeke or BR would just randomly bring her up.
>>1978422
>Actually if he really knows her, it might be the reason he hasn't killed her yet.
My theory is that he (or some predecessor of his whose powers and memories he has absorbed) is the one who overthrew Ymir as queen and titanized her in the first place, 65 years ago. So yes, I do believe he would kill her. And before killing her, he would tell Bertolt, Reiner, and the audience all about her past.
>Also, if she is indeed dead, I don't know why Zeke or BR would just randomly bring her up.
It would be a flashback. Bertolt might just have some reason to think about it, maybe if something happened with Eren that reminded him of a detail from the story or something.
>>1978428
>It would be a flashback. Bertolt might just have some reason to think about it, maybe if something happened with Eren that reminded him of a detail from the story or something.
Unlikely. Also, it's heavily implied Ymir killed herself, because she couldn't handle a fate she was born into.
>>1978435
>Also, it's heavily implied Ymir killed herself
You mean titanized herself? I disagree. It sounds more to me like her people turned against her and joined Zeke, and then overthrew her and sacrificed her. I specificly remember her saying something that strongly implied she had been sacrificed by her own people.
>>1978444
>I specificly remember her saying something that strongly implied she had been sacrificed by her own people.
No, she pretty much says she killed herself and it made people happy. She couldn't handle that fate and people wanting her dead, so she killed herself. That's why she said her and Historia a kind of alike. Both were hated since the day they were born, couldn't handle it and wanted to kill themselves. That's why Ymir probably also looked so angry when she overheard the WC talking about Historia and how it would be easier if she just killed herself. Ymir probably also got angry in the flashback because Historia wanting to kill herself reminded her of the mistake she made and that Historia was about to do the same thing. Nothing really implies so far MT was involved in her backstory. Well he probably wasn't even born back then, since he's clearly not over 60 years old.
>>1978464
*are kind of
>>1978464
Are you saying there's something on the page you just posted that implied that she titanized herself?
>Well he probably wasn't even born back then, since he's clearly not over 60 years old.
If you read my post, I said, "or some predecessor of his whose powers and memories he has absorbed".
>>1978468
>Are you saying there's something on the page you just posted that implied that she titanized herself?
Partly, yes, but it's mostly these pages. Specifically when she says that she once wished she had never been born.
>If you read my post, I said, "or some predecessor of his whose powers and memories he has absorbed".
That theory still sounds far fetched and still nothing implies MT or his predecessor were involved in her backstory. It's more likely that especially if he recognizes her name that he won't instantly kill her. Even if he knows who she is, it's apparently her who'll give us important information. I also don't know why BR need this info, while it's obvious the SL are the ones who need and will discover the secrets of the world and titans. It's more likely they'll get it from Ymir than BRAZ.
>>1978486
>Partly, yes, but it's mostly these pages.
The only thing these pages imply, in my opinion, is that she ALLOWED herself to be sacrificed. Not that she actually titanized herself.
>That theory still sounds far fetched and still nothing implies MT or his predecessor were involved in her backstory.
I disagree. Zeke possesses the power to titanize people at will, and as far as we know this is a unique power. That means that, if Ymir was titanized, then she must have been titanized by either Zeke or some predecessor who possessed that power before him.
>It's more likely that especially if he recognizes her name that he won't instantly kill her.
I hope you're right, but we'll see.
>>1978492
>That means that, if Ymir was titanized, then she must have been titanized by either Zeke or some predecessor who possessed that power before him.
Ymir doesn't look like a regular mindless titan. She looks different from the ones Zeke creates.
>>1978495
I can't say I necessarily agree. Look at Annie, and Reiner, and Bertolt, and even Eren. They all have more realistic human-like appearances in their titan forms. All of Zeke's titans are more distorted and weird, like Ymir is.
>>1978501
Actually RT looks more like a regular mindless titan than DT. Only his exposed teeth make him look a little different. DT shares some similarities with MT, like her pointy ears, black eyes, sharp teeth and claws.
>>1978511
I don't know what RT is.
>>1978512
Rogue Titan.
>>1978513
Eren? I think he looks much more human than Ymir. When I saw Ymir's titan form, I remember the first thing I thought was, "Wow, that looks way less human than the other shifter titans we've seen so far." It made much more sense to find out that she had been mindless before, and I still think it was Zeke or his predecessor who titanized her.
>>1978516
Zeke can only create mindless titans who looks like deformed humans, Ymir's titan form looks more like a beast.
>>1978366
I'm not sure. If she's mentioned to be that important it would be extremely lame to reveal it all through a flashback inside another flashback. Better to have ymir directly involved, especially considering the fact she's mentioned as the only character to hold that amount of importance.
>>1978428
Isayama usually reveals backstories by having the character in question remember it. Hence why you have Historia, for example,revealing her backstory herself, in present time. Why you have Kenny revealing everything right before dying. Sasha remembering her dad while still alive. And then you have Grisha's story being revealed through Eren's memories AND Keith. Unless you're implying that someone else has Ymir's memories, which is pretty much impossible seeing as memories have only been shown to be able to be transferred between coordinates.
IF Ymir were really dead, it would be the first time Isayama would reveal a backstory through another character, and again, it would imply Siege has Ymir's memories.
>>1978534
>Isayama usually reveals backstories by having the character in question remember it.
And Zeke would be the one remembering. I'm suggesting that he (or his predecessor) was alive 65 years ago, and was the one who overthrew and titanized Ymir. He would have all of the relevant memories of what happened. He would be able to tell the tale himself.
It would be Zeke's backstory as much as Ymir's.
>>1978534
>And then you have Grisha's story being revealed through Eren's memories AND Keith.
It was actually mostly Keith's story. We got a little info about Grisha, but he's still a mystery.
>>1978539
And I'm saying that that's not how Isayama does it. If Zeke's were to reveal her backstory it would be though his POV which is not Isayama's style except w or for Levi 's backstory (unless you want to count ACWNR as canon) And how Grisha got into the walls through Keith's POV. Only Ymir herself would be able to talk about her own, personal experiences and what her thoughts were during her childhood. I very much doubt that Siege was in anyway way close to her in such a way that it would allow him to know her (internal) struggles. Again,.the only way that would be possible is if he has her memories and I already explained why that's impossible.
>>1978541
Now seeing as Grisha is already confirmed to be dead, it's entirely possible that someone else will reveal what he really is, though I think all that info is in the basement.
>>1978544
>If Zeke's were to reveal her backstory it would be though his POV
It would be Zeke telling one of the main characters the story, just like Keith told the main characters HIS story. So he's already done things like that before.
>Only Ymir herself would be able to talk about her own, personal experiences and what her thoughts were during her childhood.
And, assuming we see how Zeke killed Ymir through Bertolt's POV, then Ymir very well may have a conversation with Zeke, with Bertolt listening on, in which she talks about those sorts of things.
>>1978539
So far we only know the coordinate transfers memories. Also Isayama apparently said we'll get the info from Ymir, not Zeke or someone else.
I get the feelings you really want Ymir to be dead for some reason and think she's a secondary character whose backstory will be explained by someone else.
>>1978544
>Now seeing as Grisha is already confirmed to be dead, it's entirely possible that someone else will reveal what he really is, though I think all that info is in the basement.
Well the only interesting info left about Grisha is his origin and yeah I'm pretty sure that will be revealed in the basement. He also might be from a special bloodline, judging by his comment about Eren being special.
>>1978547
>And, assuming we see how Zeke killed Ymir through Bertolt's POV, then Ymir very well may have a conversation with Zeke, with Bertolt listening on, in which she talks about those sorts of things.
And that would mean that we would get Ymir's backstory inside the flashback of another flashback, as I said before, that's not Isayama's style, at all. And why exactly would Ymir reveal her whole life story to them? I can see Ymir Only wanting to talk to Historia about it seeing as they've finally opened up to one another. Besides, there's the issued that Ymir doesn't know anything about Historias past aside from the fact that she wanted to kill herself because she was unloved.
Again, for a character that's been talked about to have such immense importance. It would be underwhelming if her story was revealed inside the flashback of another character. Especially since its been hinted at that the last arc will be about her story which will also define AND conclude the story.
>>1978550
Everything Ymir knows could be revealed through Bertolt's POV of a conversation between Ymir and Zeke. Sort of like how Varys and Kevan have a conversation at the end of A Dance With Dragons, before Varys kills Kevan.
>I get the feelings you really want Ymir to be dead for some reason
I don't, and don't you dare fucking accuse me of that. I want Ymir to kill Zeke, retake her throne, and then have a royal marriage with Historia to unite the two civilizations. Fuck you.
>>1978553
>He also might be from a special bloodline, judging by his comment about Eren being special.
Then why wouldn't his own blood be special? Why would he have to kill himself and give his power to Eren? My theory is that we will eventually find out that Carla was part of a special bloodline, and Grisha chose her because of her blood.
>>1978555
>Everything Ymir knows could be revealed through Bertolt's POV of a conversation between Ymir and Zeke
See>>1978544
That would mean that we wouldn't get Ymir's story through her own POV but through the eyes of another character that might as well have been the cause of her downfall. If Isayama truly wants to reveal her full backstory he should do it through her POV seeing as she's the one who lived it. That is, unless Siege is somehow very close to Ymir and was there with her throughout her childhood years. Only then I would be willing to think that Isayama is capable of revealing her story through Sieges POV
>>1978559
>unless Siege is somehow very close to Ymir and was there with her throughout her childhood years
Depends on how old is. If anything I could rather see this as a reason for him not to kill her.
>>1978562
*how old he is
>>1978559
>That would mean that we wouldn't get Ymir's story through her own POV but through the eyes of another character
Yeah, Bertolt. A character through whose POV we've seen plenty of other important stuff, like Marco's death or Reiner's loss of sanity.
Personally, I'm hoping Zeke has not killed her, but has instead simply tied her up and sent her back to the village to deal with later, and that she will somehow find a way to escape, fuck shit up, and retake her throne. What I'm arguing right now, however, is that that may just be wishful thinking, and we need to accept the fact that it's POSSIBLE she may be dead. I'm not saying she is. I'm not saying I want her to be. I'm saying she MIGHT be. And I think we're kidding ourselves, and setting ourselves up for a grievous letdown, if we go about assuming that she's not.
>>1978566
>Marco's death
So you are saying Ymir is on the same level as Marco in case of relevancy?
>>1978568
No, I'm just saying we've seen stuff through Bertolt's POV. He's a perfectly valid POV to see stuff through. Not everything has to be directly witnessed by Eren or Armin.
Let's just be cautious, okay? Hope for the best, obviously, but be prepared for the worst.
>>1978566
Yes, but what I'm saying is that regarding Marco the only important part was how he died and why he had to die. With Ymir it is entirely different. Ymir has mysteries surrounding her from the moment she is born. Stuff that only Ymir can tell the readers about, through her POV. Its not Isayama's style to reveal an important flashback through another flashback. It could impossibly be revealed by Bert and especially through his POV.
I used to think she was dead too. But logicallyspaking, considering all things, it's impossible that she is.
>>1978570
I am, but your excuses to give us her backstory and a big revelation via a random flashback, aren't that great. Especially since it's been mentioned it's only her that will give us that answer, not someone else.
>>1978574
>>1978576
I just don't think it's a good idea to say things like this.
>But logicallyspaking, considering all things, it's impossible that she is.
It isn't impossible. She could be. It could all make sense somehow. We don't know. We are not Isayama.
I could absolutely see Bertolt having a flashback of Ymir's conversation with Zeke, and that being the source of whatever information it is we readers are supposed to get from Ymir. After all, we already had a scene where we learned something important about Ymir when Eren had a flashback of her conversation with Bertolt.
I'm just saying, it could happen. Don't get complacent. Don't wave your hand and say, "Everything is going to be alright," when you don't actually know that. Isayama was originally planning on killing off every single character. He has the capacity for cruelty. Just keep what I'm saying in mind.
>>1978710
>After all, we already had a scene where we learned something important about Ymir when Eren had a flashback of her conversation with Bertolt.
No. What Eren remembered is something that we already heard about and saw when Bert and Ymir were talking to each other on the tree. It was nothing new, and what matters there is that Eren managed to recall parts of it.
And even if it had been a new scene, it would have been a story through Eren's POV. Truth is, Ymir may have talked of the 60 years nightmare, and mentioned that it was like a nightmare, but we still have got nothing from her POV, aside from that scene when she's jumping down the tower, which is the only glimpse we've got of her past.
And then there's the other issue that needs resolving, which is about what Ymir talked to Historia about, that she was just using Historia because she's afraid to die. AND we were only lead to believe Ymir was lying through Connie. Ymir never gives any indication to it. All people can do is guess and speculate, Because as of now Ymir is a complete mystery. If she were to have another character reveal her story, Ymir as a character would still remain a mystery seeing as it's not het own perspective,it would be another's.
>Isayama was originally planning on killing off every single character. He has the capacity for cruelty. Just keep what I'm saying in mind.
Every character that appeared in volume 1. Ymir didn't appear until volume 3 or 4.
>>1978726
>No. What Eren remembered is something that we already heard about and saw when Bert and Ymir were talking to each other on the tree.
Was it? I'm under the impression it was skipped over in that chapter, and not revealed until the flashback later.
>Every character that appeared in volume 1. Ymir didn't appear until volume 3 or 4.
You're missing my point. My point is he is capable of cruelty, as all good authors are. You're being very overconfident, and I'm just cautioning you against that.
>>1978731
Yes. It was chapter 47 or 48. Nothing new about Ymir has been revealed in any of the flashbacks with her in it.
I'm not saying that Ymir is completely immune to dying. In fact, I believe she eventually WILL die. What I'm arguing.about is that it's no possible that she's already dead because of reasons mentioned above.
>>1978739
Also, would like add that I've lost confidence too often. I have been in your shoes, playing devil's advocate, but I've grown tired of the majority of people assuming Ymir is dead and seeing it as a fact when it's completely viable that she's alive and still has a lot to reveal.
>>1978740
>majority of people assuming Ymir is dead
What? You need to be really naive to think this, it's usually one or two retards at most.
>>1978740
I don't disagree that it's completely viable that she's alive. I hope to death she's alive. I just lack your confidence. You say it's not possible, but frankly it feels like coinflip likelihood to me. The longer the revelation is withheld from us, the more and more pessimistic I feel, because the more and more significant the final reveal is going to be. The longer we're left waiting, the more likely the denouement is going to be something like Zeke eating Ymir or some horrible shit like that.
All I can think about is how many chapters we were left hanging before it was finally revealed that Grisha was dead. I just feel less and less hope with each passing month that Ymir's situation won't end up being similar.
Crunchyroll when?
>spend all day waiting for Crunchyroll to update
>when it finally does, it won't let me read chapter 78 without signing up for a free trial
why even live
Well, there are worse ways for one of my favorite characters to die, I suppose.
>>1979498
Also, Hannes lived from chapter 1 to chapter 50, whereas this character was first introduced by name in chapter 19 and has now lived to chapter 78, meaning they've outlived Hannes by 10 chapters.
God, FUCK Reiner.
C-cute.
>>1979810
>>1979823
Yes
>>1979525
why?
>>1979810
Jesus Christ, I know it's a moe art style for that, but Christa's head being bigger than that entire horse is freaking me the fuck out.
>>1979956
Cause I'm fucking sick of his goddamned bullshit cockroach immortality.
>>1979960
Same here. BR seem to have more plot armor than EMA And Levi combined at this point.
>>1979498
There's no way Hanji's dead. Always remember, when Isayama leaves a supposed death implied in a cliffhanger, it's 100% likely that the character in question will survive.
>>1979972
I think Moblit will have shielded her from the blast. However, Hange's relationship with him has not been sufficiently explored for his death to be meaningful enough, in storytelling terms, to save her. Therefore I think she will instead merely be mortally wounded, and will have some last words for the other characters to hear before she actually dies.
That said, however, Levi might still be able to save her by injecting her with the titan serum, and then feeding her Reiner. This would also explain Reiner's plot armor— he needs to survive because he is the second ingredient to the Survey Corps making a new shifter.
>>1979976
I think it's also likely that Mobit will utter some last, emotional words in order to give meaning to their relationship. Perhaps even add a flashback on how they met.
>>1979980
Maybe, maybe not. I don't think he'll have time. He'll just pull himself in front of her, the blast will kill him and mortally wound Hange, and then Levi and the others will find Hange in the rubble after the battle where she'll have some last words for them.
If Reiner has been successfully extricated from the ruins of his titan by that point, then the option of making Hange a shifter will open up, and Levi may choose to take that option.
>>1979976
>>1979982
Ooh, or, alternatively, Erwin and the others will refuse to let Levi feed Hange Reiner, preferring to interrogate him for information; so instead, Hange will merely be turned into a mindless titan and captured alive by the Survey Corps, to be fed Reiner at a later date. Thus Hange finds herself in the very situation she always put her captive titans in!
>>1981768
>>1981769
>>1979970
I strongly dislike BR in general but "everyone" loves them. I don't think they're that great as characters, same with Eren and Levi.
>>1984476
Kek.
>>1985299
Mikasa....too savage
>>1985299
Mikasa is pretty funny when she messes with Sasha. I kind of wish they interacted more.
>>1984476
Dat leaf
Why do articles about season 2 keep repeating the rumor that Levi is going to die, while at the same time claiming the plotline will closely follow the manga? Both rumors cannot simultaneously be true. So which is it?
Happy birthday, Ymir.
>>1986117
Happy birthday Ymir.
An article I read recently referred to Ymir as "he". I think I reflexively hissed.
>>1986157
Kek.
>>1986157
My sides.
>>1986117
Happy birthday. Hope this year we get at least a positive mention of her.
>>1986064
Those kind of articles rely on both rumor and truth while whomever wrote that article isn't aware of what is true and what is not themselves. They just include whatever shit they heard of or read about.
>>1986064
The anime team is aware of how popular Levi is. They definitely won't kill him.
>>1986234
Sadly Levi is pretty much the only reason nips even care about SnK anymore.
>>1987397
I like how different their poses look. Historia looks cute, while Ymir looks kind of boyish.
>>1987397
Why is Christa stabbing her wife?
>>1987404
She might be a little mad that Ymir forgot their anniversary
>>1987404
Maybe she is mad, because Ymir did some shenanigans with the orphans.
Can anyone translate what they are saying?
>>1987399
Yes, but I hope we see a shift in how Historia is portrayed in official merch once S2 finally comes out. Making her more badass and whatnot.
>>1987655
Think Ymir is saying "sasuga watashi no Krista" "that's my Krista "
Historia is saying "I'm really glad you're okay" not sure about her part. Pls a moonfag correct me if I'm wrong.
>>1987831
cute!
>>1987839
>Ymir = Auruo
>>1987831
C-cute.
>>1987831
Thank you, anon. Do you know what they're saying in this vid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7DM1TVC3aY
>>1988341
Kek. Is Historia's special ability to seduce everyone?
>>1988348
Isn't that just her putting up an act or is does everyone really have a special ability and Historia's is being able to charm everyone?
>>1988409
I'm not sure but I suspected if the characters each have a unique ability then "Krista" would be to charm people into doing things.
>>1988650
>>1988651
I've tried googling "Ymir Historia special feeling" and "Ymir Historia umbrella", to no relevant result.
Does anybody have the image I'm thinking of? And if so, can you post it?
>>1988659
>>1988663
>>1988663
Isn't there one where Ymir is the bashful one and Historia is talking to the camera?
>>1988667
Ah, I posted too soon. Thanks, both of you.
>>1988670
Can anyone translate what Ymir is saying about Historia?
>>1988822
Historia and Ymir did it 10 times the previous night and Historia still wanted more.
>>1988827
Kek.
![[HorribleSubs] Koukaku no Pandora - 07 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_04.25_[2016.02.20_11.48.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q1ZRzNI.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Koukaku no Pandora - 07 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_04.25_[2016.02.20_11.48.17].jpg")
I recognize this phrase.
When they're not next to each other they just stare at each other.
>>1988969
Ah, good catch.
Someone said these look like YH.
>>1989069
I hate fanarts where Ymir is literally indistinguishable from a guy.
In the manga and anime you can at least still see she's female.
>>1989104
It's not genderbend though.
>>1989101
I like fanart of her like that, since she also looks androgynous in the manga.
Fanart that tries to make her look pretty and feminine is much worse.
>>1989112
It does though. It's mostly the eyes that make her look boyish in the pic, but she also has eyes Isayama mainly uses for guys in the manga too. Well that and she also doesn't really have soft facial features.
>>1989115
Ymir is a handsome woman.
>>1989120
Yes
>>1989115
You're cherry picking, in general she's more androgynous than manly. Isayama is pretty inconsistent though so.
>>1989127
Yes and she also looks androgynous in that pic. It's not like she looks like Erwin or Reiner.
>>1989133
We'll just have to agree to disagree then.
>>1989069
Also this pic is more like a genderbend. Broad shoulders, wide jaw, no eyelashes. Nice art but the het shit is strong.
>>1989229
It's not het shit and the artists is a yurifag. Ymir also has broad shoulders in the manga. If you look cloesely you can see the eyelashes in that pic and she doesn't have a wide jaw. Stop overreacting.
>>1989224
>How about posting the rest of her panels, over 98% of them has her looking like a female since she's always drawn with long eyelashe
Yeah and when Isayama forgets to draw them you can easily mistake her for a guy, because of her androgynous look.
>>1989381
*artist
>all these people complaining that Ymir looks vaguely masculine in a pic
>not a single person translating the moon runes from said pic
>>1989439
Fine
>Historia:Come on, one more kiss
>Ymir: We've been kissing for 80 minutes already
