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>doujin full of lovey-dovey stuff
>last page
>'Oh man, what was I dreaming about?'
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>>1961806
>raping a straight girl is okay so long as she turns /u/ in the end
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strap ons
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>>1961824
i second this. most any type of toy for that matter.
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>all men are rapist perverts
I mean I hate men as a possible romantic interest, but you don't need to make all men rapists.
Guys who support the yuri relationship are the best and always bring a smile to my face.
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>I don't know if I'm into girls so I'm just gonna date some random guy for a chapter
Has this ever done anything productive?

>this relationship is sure progressing smooth and steadily, let's introduce some random love rival
The mangaka and the audience both know this shit ain't gonna go anywhere and they're just wasting fucking time.

>it's a doujin that's basically a dozen pages of some girl angsting internally about her love for another girl
If I wanted to watch a bunch of girls tiptoe around explicit intimacy I'd just watch the fucking source material. Fuck you think I'm reading a doujin for?

>tomboy/school prince angsting over not being feminine enough
Only one I ever tolerated was Sasameki Koto and that's because her love interest was explicitly into more cute, feminine types.

On the more benign end of things
>tribbing
It looks dumb and it kills my boner.
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>>1961832
Agree with most except
>tomboy/prince angsting about not being feminine
As long as they don't go overboard it's a perfectly acceptable feeling lots of people have and can add a bit of sweetness to the story.
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>>1961832
>The mangaka and the audience both know this shit ain't gonna go anywhere and they're just wasting fucking time.
I might be pulling this out of my ass, but in the case of a high rated series, it would probably be in the publisher's best interest to coax the author into finding some way to increase the longevity of the series?

Anything else is just tropes that define the genre. Love them or hate them, they're probably not going anywhere in the near future.
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>>1961831
this also kills it for me, along with fanfic in which the all the male characters are horribly out of character just to justify a yuri pairing
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I only have one and its the yuri not having a satisfying or "real" conclusion (like thinking life-saving CPR is a replacement for a real kiss scene)
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>>1961837
>Probably better to make the series longer
I'm not sure about that one, especially for yuri. Yuri fans aren't typically the buy fag type, for better or worse. Making a series last longer might help with some sales, but not really enough to justify making the author do stupid shit to the story. I can only think of a few yuri stories that really have any sale potential by prolonging it, and they're not the sweet romance kind of yuri.
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>>1961832
You might just actually hate yuri, anon.
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>>1961806
>All the girls are gay
it just ruins the elusiveness of yuri
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>>1961932
Pretty much this except not only are all the girls gay but their destined partners are all right next to them.

Sakura Trick did this and pretty much ruined the "specialness" of what Yuu and Haruka had.
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>>1961932
>he still doesn't believe that heterosexuality is just a phase
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>>1961932
All girls are gay senpai

They just take time to realize that
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>tags: yuri, futanari
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>>1961932
>I want het in my yuri
Never change /u/
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>>1961956
>tags: yuri, ffm threesome
The introduction of 'females only' tags was Madokami's gift.
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Childhood friends.
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>>1961831
>>1961840
Gonna have to get in on this. Not having a proper interaction between the yuri couple and the men who are their friends/family/whatever is just boring as fuck. Nobody is not interested in the relationships of the people closest to them.

This goes double for any sort of setting or source material or particular pairing that would definitely raise concerns or interest in basically anyone the couple knows.
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>I love you and want to spend the rest of our lives together!
>J-just kidding eh hehe
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Het in yuri. I mean, I don't mind irrelevant stuff like the existence of het couples as someone's parents, but I sure as hell don't want to see one of the main characters sorting her feelings for a guy.
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>>1961932
I get you, anon. In reality, only 3-5% of girls are lesbian. That, in and of itself, makes the relationship more sought out and interesting.
Making all the girls gay/removal of any male representation just gives doubt to the "validity" of the main couple.

I'd rather that they flat out reject any heterosexual interest.
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>>1961932
Agreed. The common outcomes seem either a total omission of male characters or randomly dating a man for a chapter or two to make the story seem edgy. The best yuri stories are recognising that their love is different and special, and dealing with the implications of that together. That's part of the reason why morinaga milk was such a big success, at least to our slightly different social perspectives outside of japan.
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Only likes girls because she hates guys or was traumatized by some
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>>1961989
That gay guy from The Real Her is pretty funny.
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This mostly applies to one-shots, but I dislike it when a girl confesses to the one she likes, and the 2 girls become a couple, and then they have sex on the spot, like, give it time, man! Most girls that age don't even know how to sex, much less gay sex!
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>>1961987
I like it when lesbian girls reject advances of men.
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>>1962036
Agreed 100%. Even if it's a one-shot you would think the author could add a page to indicate that some time has passed. Or even better, show them experimenting and getting bolder every time. But no, it's all "OH LOOK, I FOUND A DOUBLE-ENDED DILDO LYING AROUND, LET ME FUCK YOU WITH IT!".
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>>1962044
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>>1962054
Isn't your image full of cross-dressing guys though?
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>>1961994
GTFO. talking about the worst character in that series.
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>>1962059
To be fair that's not saying much. There's only like 5 named character's 4 of which are yuri.
I didn't like him much either, but I liked his role somewhat.
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When the neko is too dumb. See Mamori from Valkyrie Drive and Himeko from KnM.
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>>1961806
Kyoani.
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>>1961806
Boyfriend arcs

Yeah yeah, "purtyfag", "muh realism", whatever, i don't care

These story arcs are simply annoying to read through, you wanna have guys in a yuri story? Fine, you wanna have het side couples? Also fine. But boyfriend drama for the main characters is just unbearable to me
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>>1962058
Unless this a jab at the art style, no. They're all girls and they're all gay.
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When you're translating h-manga and there's so many AHs and HAHs that you could usually ignore but then you discover there's actual words thrown in there so you have to type out every single one of them.
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>>1962079
Not gonna lie, when I looked at it I thought it was from a trap manga.
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>>1961832
>>this relationship is sure progressing smooth and steadily, let's introduce some random love rival
I hate this the most. Even more if it turns into borderline cheating.
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> see a yurifag friend on facebook
> he is hyped as fuck with a new yuri manga
> told me about it
its the manga of the century, yuri and wincest!!!
>get hyped too
>googled and download
> start reading
>first thing I see is this hetshit
> fuck this shit, fuck this world, fuck my yurifag friend!
>not even real wincest
I still reading it, but that make me hate Mei forever and ship harumin x yuzu
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The third, evil girl that fucks with the main girls' relationship and is a homewrecker for the sake of drama e.g. Matsuri is Citrus and Ploy in Lily Love.

Anime that uses yuri troupes or scenes to make you think that watching them might be a good idea, but down the road the characters are ether straight in the end or a bislut. e.g Cross Ange and Shin Sekai Yori

The general lack of money and interest in the genre preventing manga, light novels, and vns from being adapted into anime eventually like in other genres.
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>>1961824
Yeah, this one.
If someone wants a dick so hard, why even bother with girls?
>>1961960
Also this, god fucking damn. It's hard to put my frustration into words when I see a nice picture tagged yuri with a dude and two bisluts.
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>>1961958
But that's not what s/he said.
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>>1962101
Is this Citrus? If so, that is the reason I dropped it. I heard good(?) things about it, so who knows, maybe one day I'll give it a second chance.
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>>1962101
And I thought men would know better than reading shitrus.
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>>1962104
Lily Love went to shit when Ploy appeared. Now going for bad end.
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>>1961960
Promlem us, still misses get stuff with a small bit of yuri. Dang, there needs to be a tag for that.

Or maybe threesomes shouldn't be tagged yuri.
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>we're just doing this for practice when we get boyfriends right?
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hetshit. period.
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>>1962101
Really should be reading it.

NOT SPOILERS: This was a forced kiss. And the guy pretty much drops out rightaway.
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>>1962148
Dropping out is not enough. He should be dropped from heli hitting feet first.
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>>1962150
That would require him to continue existing.
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>>1962138
>Or maybe threesomes shouldn't be tagged yuri.
That would be my solution, but no one ever listens.
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>>1962071
Underrated post.
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Older brothers.
Male childhood friends.

These are the worst types of male characters. Not just in yuri.
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>>1962155
At least Danbooru explicitly states that Futa ain't yuri.
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Schrodinger's shyness, or to be more specific, if in one scene the characters basically fuck eachothers brains out and in a later scene are too shy to even touch each other, my disbelief is no longer suspended.

Another one is (and this is probably a culture barrier) when basically "but it's dirty there" as if somehow they were planning to have sex without genitallia getting involved.
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>>1962105
>strap ons are the same as dicks
I can understand why people might not want strap ons, but they're not the same as dicks and some girls like penetration, even if they like other girls.
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>>1962071
>>1962156
but kyoani is the studio that added a new character in as well as making a previous character more involved for the sake of giving us yuri in a het show.
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>>1962227
Not my pure animu grills they don't!
Also, girls have fingers and hands.
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>>1961806
very cute op.
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>>1962235
>fingers and hands
perhaps, but its just not the same as onee-sama's stamen.
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Schoolgirls. The vast majority of yuri I've indulged in focuses on them, and while it's not really a "pet peeve" I do wish authors would branch out some more. It just really hammers home how the culture widely sees it as an immature phase the girls will eventually grow out of; I'd at least like the author/characters acknowledging such bullshit and reaffirming their feelings are genuine.
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>>1961806
post more.
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>>1962250
>It just really hammers home how the culture widely sees it as an immature phase the girls will eventually grow out of
More like how the culture thinks life tops out in high school and the rest is just grimly fulfilling your duty.
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>>1962250
Nah, the vast majority of romance manga is about highschoolers, not just yuri.
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>>1962250
I think you're just reading into it a bit much although I get what you're saying.
Japs just live highschoolers.
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>>1961824
>>1961827
seconding this
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>>1962250
This. Biggest peeve... UNLESS the story reads specifically as if it'll continue post highschool. Some stories do, and those are the good schoolgirl ones.

But my real pet peeve? Magazines like Yuri Hime dropping the really interesting manga in their infancy, before they can grow. Gretel, Gurenki, the elf harem manga...
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>>1962153
Guess why he disappeared. Yuzu does not take competition.

Citrus is actually a horror murder story about a murderous, clingy sister that likes being abused by her crush, and murders anyone that gets in the way.
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>>1962413
>yuri hime dropping manga
to be fair its not their fault exactly. They're still a business of sorts and they have to go with what's popular. If nobody likes a story it hurts them to continue carrying it, especially when there's plenty of artists who would love to be included.
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>>1962424
That would be a good point if YH wasn't currently dying because they aren't running anything that interests people.
Most of the good yuri is not in yuri only publications.
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>>1962429
Well they're a shitty business but they can at least try. If they completely ignored it then it'd be dying a whole lot faster.
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>>1962413
>would be a good point if YH wasn't currently dying because they aren't running anything that interests people
They're so much dying that they just went from bimonthly to monthly. YH is most likely in a better shape today than they were 4-5 years ago.
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>we were good friends or somehow knew each other when we were kids but we forgot and now it's being revealed as a semi-twist early on or midway through the series to speed up the whole "falling in love" romance process so we can get to the good stuff!
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>>1962449
I like what they did for Shoujo Sect.
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>>1962145
The worst part is that Japan's lesbians are pretty much expected to be like this.

>>1962246
I could have sworn that I'd seen a strapon shaped like a lily stamen somewhere, and it pisses me off that I can't find it.
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prince shit
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>>1962230
Why do they even bother if they're gonna pair up the "lesbians" with guys in the end anyway? They only do bait, not yuri.
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>>1962476
MoriMori seems pretty legit.
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>tall girl
>flat chested
>short hair
>masculine

Not necessarily all three at once but it seems to happen a lot in schoolgirl series.
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>>1962476
>pair up lesbians with guys
when has this actually happened?
and don't use
>but I thought it was going to be different than the source material which was pure het!
excuse. Almost every time kyoani goes het it was clearly planned from the start.
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>>1961932
Yeah, the ambivalence of living.
>We want more yuri, always.
>It turns into "everyone is gay" and everything is stupidly unrealistic.
Life is hard!
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>>1962235
Pic related.

>>1962227
Comedy put aside, I completely agree with this.
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>>1962489
So if the source material is het, why did they made it as yuri bait in the adaptation?
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Peeve: Inserting anything they find in their gf's orifices, like carrots, cucumbers, pencil, etc.
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>>1962526
Why else? To entice and attract the yuri crowd. It's called "bait" for a reason.
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>>1961932
I want a tora dora esque anime where a girl tries to help a male classmate date some popular girl, but in the process of getting to know her and spending time with her, the 2 girls fall in love. classmate-kun also falls in love with the girl trying to help him, and she feels guilt for falling in love with the girl he wanted to date, just to make things nice and complicated..
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>>1962458
But that happened at the very end of the story.
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>>1962526
because 2 girls being next to each other and being friends != yuri bait.
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>>1962058
The artist is Taishi Zaou and usually does yaoi. She made Princess Princess.
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>>1962526
It's common guys have a fetish of NTR/stealing lesbian lovers for themselves "b-because my virgin cock is better then your gf oc!" Plus most otakus are self inserting faggots who:
A) Want the couple het or /u/ to never officially get together even though it's basically canon so their waifu never get taken or their purety ruined
B) It's their fetish to NTR a lesbian away from her gf or love interest to make them feel superior and the guy wins
Basically the most consumers of anime and manga are male so they try hard to appeal to their mindset to make more money.
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>>1962569
Exactly
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>>1961987
I second this. For example, there are tons of "cute girls doing cute things" shows where people claim have at least some shades of yuri but it's pretty hard to judge since there are no fucking guys anywhere.

Lucky Star did an interesting move, where Ayano had a boyfriend offscreen that we never ever see and was only mentioned offhandedly like twice. Doesn't stop people from shipping her Ayano with Misao. To me that just shows that it's really easy to ship "we're seriously just friends, really" with each other since there's no guys around to cause any shipping problems.

It's basically only yuri because there's nothing to say otherwise and not because there's something to say it is.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like I want girls to angst over if they might be gay when they clearly are and add unnecessary drama to stuff. It's just that having at least SOME male presence helps validate the yuri.

Otherwise it's like coming first in a race where you're the only one racing.
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>>1962080
Ya can't just ignore the Ahhs and go for the words?
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>>1962526
To attract the /u/ crowd? Money is money after all, why not widen the appeal just a bit to grab a bit more?
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>>1961932
but anon what if world it takes place in only has women as primary living species?
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>>1962520
oh boy, THAT manga author, i remember them, some shit they do is bad, but i agree with the point they make here.
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>>1962520
Isn't that like saying gay men shouldn't imitate hetero sex with penetration either? If you like/want/need penetration it doesn't make you any less gay or anything. You shouldn't feel like you're doing sex "wrong".
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>>1963259
>some shit they do is bad
>Hayashiya Shizuru
you what.
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>bisexuals
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>>1963287
Agreed. Nothing wrong with a character being bi in theory, but stories always seem to feel the need to show a character is bi by having them fuck around with fifty uninteresting men before they finally settle on the lesbian character that's been dying for their affections for the past few chapters/episodes/whatever... not to mention all of the "but I'm not gay!" angst that seems to come from that sort of thing. Shit's the worst.
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>when everyone is gay and it's totally cool and trendy
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>>1963287
Bisexual girls are fine as long as they choose yuri in the end.
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>>1963395
That's my favorite. I like to pretend I'm super hip living in a fantasy land where everyone is gay. It's my happy place.
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>>1963395
It is cool and trendy. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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A confession scene where the girl confessed to replies with "The truth is I also love you all along".
It feels like a cheesy shoujo romance manga.
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>>1963395
It's true tho.
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>>1963424
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>>1963167
How does that work?
From what i've seen there is primarily hate directed towards baiting. That won't attract anyone more and the people who are already watching it won't care about the bait they just want to see cute girls.
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>A holy knight who feels her love for her princess is unrequited (when in actuality it is not, the princess is simply unable to express her feelings because she's been taught that she has to marry a king-to-be) comes back from saving the world only to find that her princess has been killed by the aforementioned king, and she can do nothing about it

Or, basically, the end of Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>1963443
If a studio does it the baiting properly, people who watch the show for cute pure girls will know that the girls stays pure and can imagine that if they met the girls, they'd love him. Meanwhile, people who watch it for yuri subtext can imagine that the girls will continue being friends and eventually lovers.

The only group that might be offended by it are people interested in seeing a genuine romantic development or people who want to self-insert. For the former, they probably should be looking in places other than anime. For the latter, there's already a huge market for that and there's more competition.

The key is to not put in too much bait that the purity waifu crowd gets drawn away but have enough to reel in the yuri crowd.
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>>1963443
Western yuri fans seem to hate bait, but I'm not sure about how japanese fans feel about it.
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Absolutely everyone being gay.
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>>1963454
It's not like Western yuri fans hate all bait. We have constant threads about shows where cute girls do cute things.
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>>1963443
There's a bigger market for
>girls being super close as friends
Than
>girls in a relationship
The former is usually called bait even if there's no het.
It's not because people hate yuri, it's just what more people want. And despite what some girls claim it's not just for the purity waifufags, I love yuri as much as the next girl here, but sometimes it's nice to just see girls being playful and having fun with each other with some romantic undertones rather than full on relationships which usually feel the need to add in drama and angst for no real reason.
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> "you'd make a great boyfriend if you were a guy"
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>Yuri stuff going on
>Guy walks in and joins.
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>>1963565
>yuri stuff going on
>guys walk in
>Oh sorry, wrong room, have fun.
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>>1963398
>in the end
In the beginning.
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One thing that peeves me a bit is some dialogue usage (such as speaking to someone in the 3rd person while they're right there, or
>"if you touch me there, I'm gonna go crazy!"
)
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>>1961987
While I agree it's a problem that stories with all-girls settings can make the yuri feel less valid, I don't think they should be doubted any more than stories with all (gay) men. No one complains about those needing female presence to legitimize them.

Anyway, one of my peeves is doujins where the girls don't kiss before having sex, or worse, don't even kiss at all.
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>>1963735
The draws of yuri and yaoi tend to be a bit different from what I've seen, and just because an issue appears in multiple places doesnt make it not an issue.
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>>1963735
This. It's such a double standard that whenever people see men acting gay, you automatically acknowledge that they're gay, but when it comes to lesbians, it's 'naw they're just pretending. They're just waiting for the right man'. People in this thread obviously don't say it like that, but it's the exact same line of thinking. It's also the same mentality which results in that notorious /tv/ trope where the lesbian has sex with a guy to 'prove' that she's a lesbian.
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>>1963268
I pasted it just for comedy (couldn't resist), as you can see in the second part I have nothing against strapons.

>>1963272
Too bad it isn't translated further than the 3 chapters.
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>>1963784
This isn't exactly true, I mean you have your flamers which people call gay, but no one honestly calls football players gay despite being all over men and making gay Jokes to each other.
Same way with lesbians you have butch lesbians people instantly call gay and all those girls that are overly friendly nobody calls gay. The only difference is gay guys have more flamers than girls do.
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Auto-insert-fics/stories
It does not affect the real story, but I hate those people
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>>1963760
I don't know about yaoi since that's aimed at a specific audience, but girlfriend arcs/bi drama/women in general are often nonexistent in bara/gei comi aimed at gay men. Basically what >>1963784 said, it takes a lot more to "prove" a character is lesbian to an audience than it is for a gay man, even if the fictional circumstances are similar.
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>>1963892
Yaoi and yuri appeal to different emotional connections and require different set ups to be appealing to their audience. You can't say because 1 does it 1 way the other is the same because they're both gay.
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>>1963937
You're just trying to justify a double standard.
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>>1963948
This isn't lgbt, I'm talking genres not people nor do I like you bringing 3d problems into a yuri board.
People who come to yuri tend to favor emotional and relationship connections than those that go to yaoi. This is not to say there are not exceptions, but it is a large trend.
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>>1963892
I don't think we're going to get anywhere unless people start using more concrete examples.

For instance, I have no trouble believing everyone in Yuru Yuri is gay, because they constantly affirm it in word and deed and we see examples of adult lesbians. If we're talking subtext, I find it very hard to take it seriously in a show like K-On compared to even something like the first season of Pretty Cure.
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>>1963585
That's actually an image isn't it?
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>>1964635
Several dozen, often labeled with some variant of "/v/ clicks the wrong board"
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>>1964658
I specifically remember one where two girls are about to make yuri when a gaggle of dudes with camcorders bursts in, staresat them, mumble to each other, then quickly apologize and leave.
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>>1964360
That's because the characters having actual chemistry with each other is what is most convincing.
"I fucked a guy to prove I'm not into guys" is not convincing at all. It's just dumb.
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ones where the female gets pregnant
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>>1964693
Magic science babies are a treasure.
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>>1964693
>doesn't like magic babies
I bet you hate fox girl lolis too.
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>>1964708
>a newborn
>with hair
Magic, I suppose.
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>>1964739
Plenty of babies are born with hair.
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>>1964685
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>>1964769
Very good.
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>>1961806
Improvement of lgbt rights, more and better yuri?
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>>1962520
>Pic related.
Wasn't that a joke about futa doujins, not strap-ons?
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>>1964831
it still applies
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>>1964820
But then it wouldn't be forbidden anymore.
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cute girls doing lewd things and suddenly dickgrown
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>>1964820

I dunno, but I'm sure we'll get more SJW pandering western comics, which I'm not really into.
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>>1965002
>bunch of comics about how hard being gay is and how we should all be treating them like super special snowflakes
Please no. I just want cute fluffy fox grils doing fox gril things with yuri and minor pedophile undertones.
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>>1965002
>SJW

3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?")
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>>1965006
America sucks at writting lesbians, they only cling to the angst and "society is homophobic" aspect of it.
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>>1965006
>>1965002
It's gonna get worse before it gets better.
Hopefully.
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>>1963395

This is pretty hard to avoid in Touhou at least because shit, what else are you gonna do?

You can only have so many characters pine over Rinnosuke before it gets ridiculous.
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>>1965121
I'm totally fine with Gensokyo being a lesbian matriarchy.
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>One of the girls is such a turbo dyke, can barely tell them apart from a guy

I'm okay with lesbians, but dykes can fuck off.
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>>1965984
You sound like an unpleasant person.
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if my memory still intact.
back when bubblegum crisis new thing(the remake also) fans would always talk about how the show it was implied that Priss was heavily implied to be in a relationship with Sylvie and the others with a lot subtext,it a shame there isn't fan art of it.
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The fact that I almost never like the main couple in anything ever, usually because I find one of them to be insufferable as a character. Sakura Trick was the worst offender for this. Yuu just pisses me off. I still read/watch everything I can get my hands on for the sake of girls being gay, but actually liking the main couple would be nice for once.
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>One of the girls is a delinquent or somewhat tomboyish and all she wants is to be more girly and wear nothing but frilly clothing and look at cute things

>The entire series is based around the chase and ends right as they become a couple

>A male character only exists to be an evil rapist

>Tsunderes that never actually act dere in the least
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>>1965984
>I'm okay with lesbians, but dykes can fuck off.
Androgynous girls can be cute.
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>>1965984
Fuck off, straight man. Princes are top tier, especially if they're soft behind closed doors.
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>>1964973
Yeah, it really is. Hets will still outnumber homos 49:1, so the forbidden nature will never die.
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>>1966262
>>1966050
Mad dykes, embrace the feminine

>>1966255
You're fine
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>>1966294
Second that
Feminine girls are the best grills
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>>1966262
Bifauxnen is best, yo.
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>>1966252
You're just mad because you don't like anything that people are 'supposed' to like.
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>>1964769
This is me clicking /soc/ instead of /pol/.
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>>1966294
Yup, I was right.
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>>1966262

Excuse me for my newness but I'm not familiar with this term "Prince".

At a guess I'd assume it refers to girls who have a more overall masculine appearance/look to them without going the full dyke route (Man-pretty, I guess? Example on left).
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>>1966453
It's usually used by schoolgirls to refer to classmates that are more 'handsome' than beautiful, so they tend to be good-looking androgynous girls. Think Haruka from Sailor Moon, Amane from Strawberry Panic, Makoto from Idolm@ster, Saber in Fate/Zero etc.
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>>1961806
>BAD ENDS...whether minor like "oh, we can't be together, we get married and remember our forbidden time as lillies in the garden" all the way through "SHOVE ALL THE GAYS IN THE FRIDGE" bullshit.

I want my fucking yuri, and I WANT the happy ending. Gimme my goddamn "Shoujo Sect" epilogue, dammit!
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Also, and I know it's stupid of me, but I hate when yuri dojins/fanfics totally shred the characters' personalities and appearances in favor of hookups. I wanna see THESE characters hook up, not some bizarre changeings with their names.

GOOD writers can find a way that stays true to the girls, y'know?
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>>1966140
It's been said Linna was gay, but I don't see it. Far more likely Nene, given her excited reaction to the sexaroids from "Moonlight Rambler"...

...what?
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>>1966140
Priss got a guy in the remake, which never implied her to ever have been with Sylvie.
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>>1965065
You may be surprised, but if you ever enter a store that sells soap and other hygiene products so you can start washing yourself, you'll find whole stashes filled with hair dye.

Hair dying is not, in fact, something new, strange or rare.
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>Something is tagged as yuri
>It has one scene of yuri
>The rest is completely hetshit
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>>1966557
So 50% of stuff posted on your usual hentai site with yuri tag?
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>>1966473

Alright, that sounds more like what I was trying and failing to describe. I dunno, seems like an alright concept to me. Though I can see how that'd irk some people if it seems to them like the artist is trying to make the pairing seem less yuri-y.

As for the thread subject

>Yuri picture
>The artist doesn't really seem to know how to draw two girls having sex so he just draws them in some kind of position that only makes sense if one of them has a dick

I dunno, just seems like laziness on the part of the artist to me.
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>>1966557
i know that feeling all too well
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>>1967127
Please don't bring Pepe and feelsguy here, people will start using them seriously if you do it too much.
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>>1966558
Pretty much. Some hentai sites actually introduced a "girl's only" tag so people looking for actual yuri can actually find it.
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>Something is tagged Yuri
>Just has girls together with zero romantic tension

>Something isn't tagged as Yuri or subtext
>Girls are blushing around each other and some of their interactions are hard to pass of as platonic

I guess to Dynasty-Scans' credit, usually the former's tag gets rearranged after a while. Still, some of the stuff they don't have tagged as either yuri/subtext has more than the ones they actually did tag as yuri.
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>>1963958
There is not a single fact in the world to prove this.
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>>1967127
You can post them only if they're both girls and it implies lesbians.
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>>1963958
>yuri vs yaoi

That's an already flawed comparison to begin with; yaoi is a sub genre of BL, aimed at woman. And the fundamental difference between BL and GL...well the second fundamental difference is that BL has many defined subgenres with their own codes.

GL is one big thing where genres aren't really defined; GL, yuri, rezu are terms that in the end describe the same things with no real defined codes.
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>>1965940
Me too. I wonder, are there any Touhou doujins or fanfic that explore that premise? The only thing I know that touches upon the subject is To The Stars but it's a PMMM fanfic.
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>>1961806
>all is fine and dandy
>lover dies
damn you yui_7
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>>1967239
I've pretty much always liked princes and such myself, though. Androgynous women, to me, are like swords; they're classy, refined, and can be either elegant or rough without feeling out of character.

And honestly, having a beauty like they do, where they don't have to be girly to be seen as pretty, is the best part. People have a hard time telling whether they're a boy or a girl, but that doesn't matter, because everyone thinks they're hot, and that makes everyone gay.
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>>1967239
I can't think of anything uglier than a moeblob "character" designed to appeal to disgusting otaku.
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>>1967262
Are you projecting?
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>14+ volumes of romantic tension
>mc or mc love interest does something stupid(gets with a guy or something else stupid)
>last chapter they get together but ends in hand holding or i-i like you too
>no kiss
Why is Yuri plagued with shit like that
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>>1967294
Name one example.
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>>1966294
Now imagine that the Prince is more feminine than the Princess.
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>>1966557
So, like, 90% of "yuri" anime? :^)
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>>1967421
>BD 10-bit HEVC
I-is this on Nyaa?
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>>1967130
>yuri & girls only
Department of redundency department.
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>>1967975
Blame the boorus, they started the trend where the yuri tag also meant multiple girls in the same shot.
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>>1967976
>Blame the boorus
Oh, I do. I do very much.
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>>1967421
Men aren't supposed to be posted on /u/
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>>1962101

Prism was set to be the best yuri manga in human fucking history. Then we get this schlock.
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mc's are both female
fandom is filled with het shit and shitty oc's and almost no femslash/yuri
why western animation why
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>>1967976
Blame exhentai for needing a girls only tag. Danbooru at least is pretty on point when it comes to tagging unless someone is being a shit.
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>>1967239
You sound incredibly boring.
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>>1970107
You can have works with yuri and het/yaoi scenes separately, I don't have a problem with the girls only tag. Blame Japan for thinking yuri is just a warm up for het sex.
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Probably all mine have been posted, but anyway:

>non yuri end after strong b8(looking at you, stretch)
>het end
>men are rape machines - the 'saved from being hit on by my love interest'
>soft yurib8 with no actual dedication (K-ON, Lucky star...dammit I'm not asking for onscreen fucking - but at least subtle confirmation)
>relationships where sexually one always gives and never gets
>scissoring
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>>1970209
>scissoring
Why? The rest are reasonable, but that makes no sense at all.
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>>1970253
These virgins fell for the "scissoring doesn't feel good" meme that fat dykes with no stamina often spout on the Internet, so seeing scissoring in yuri creates a mental block on them.
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>>1970209
>relationships where sexually one always gives and never gets
Fuck, this so much.
And to throw salt on the wound she's always shown as the demanding pervert who wants to force sex upon the poor innocent flower that is her partner. Oh how terrible, wanting to make your partner feel good.

Followed inevitably by the "T-today I'll be taking the initiative!" scene where the innocent one fails miserably at it and has to be consoled by the other. "See, isn't the usual way better? Now just lie back and do nothing while I do all the work, as always."
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>>1970280
To be fair in context that's usually realistic.
Let's say Kase and Yamada are going at it. Yamada is a pure flower and Kase is in fact a demanding sexual deviant, the realistic scenario is Yamada is going to be like a freshly planted flower. The potential might be there for her to one day give Kase her stamen, but until she blooms she's a helpless little plant who needs to be taken care of.
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>>1970253
>>1970261

I can't imagine it feeling good. Not enough clitoral/vaginal stimulation to feel good, let alone as mindblowingly orgasmic as yuri doujins portray.

It seems very porny to me, like the author doesn't know how vaginas work. Note how female authors (Morishima Akiko, Amano Shuninta to name a couple) never draw it.
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>>1970290
I see your point, but often it's in a situation where

>they have been banging for a while, so the innocent one should have had time to learn.
>they have no intention to ever change, as if this is the way it should be
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>>1970291
Mira draws it fairly often doesn't she? As far as I know it works exceedingly well for some people, not at all for some, and others fall in between. Some women just like it for the closeness, even if it doesn't get them off. Both partners anatomy need to match well for it to work well too, from what I've read. Unless I was doing it with someone I was really comfortable with I think I'd feel too silly to cum in the first place.
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>>1970293
I mean I get what you're saying, I just don't see it that often in that context.
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>>1963287
I'm more annoyed that they're always horrible human beings and/or slutty af, well I would be.. I am bi.
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>>1970293
If the giver is fine with giving, why should they change?
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>>1970300
It doesn't feel bad, in the same way drinking decaf instead of coffee isn't exactly bad. It's just pointless and annoying. I see no possible way of getting off that way, and believe me, I've tried. We were too busy laughing our asses off at how stupid the whole thing was, not to mention you can't get shit to line up right, and by the time you do, it feels more like you're trying to play tetris than have sex.
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>>1970693
I feel like literally every reason for it not to work that I wrote is something that went wrong for you. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work at all.
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>>1965006
>Please no. I just want cute fluffy fox grils doing fox gril things with yuri and minor pedophile undertones.
Please tell me this exists.
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>>1970733
It does.
http://dynasty-scans.com/authors/itou_hachi
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>>1970675
Because it usually doesn't seem like a healthy relationship where they've decided that one of them will solely be the giver. Instead it feels like one of them is so uncomfortable at the idea of pleasuring her lover that she'd rather just be on the receiving end (and grudgingly at that).
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>>1970730
I'm not saying it doesn't work at all. I'm saying it's the equivalent of trying to scratch a bug bite with a feather. If it works for you, sure, whatever, go for it, but I have every right to question the practicality of it.
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>>1970734
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>the smaller/younger girl is the assertive one
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>best friend is in love with one of the mains that's already found a girl
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>>1970675
I suppose if they were fine with it, alright. But it seems unequal to me.

I absolutely cannot relate to or even understand the notion of not wanting to be pleasured by your lover (not counting initial nervousness and shyness).
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>>1970261
To be fair, it's a foreplay thing almost entirely, and there's only a very specific way it's going to work out to be hot and stimulating in more than a mental way, and that configuration isn't the most pleasant to look at from outside the tangle.
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>>1971258
How is this a peeve of yours
How do you have the worst taste
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>Play Otome Game with same gendered romance
>8 Male routes and 1 female
>Wade through a bunch of introduction scenes with annoying dudes
>Protagonist keeps talking about how hot all of the men are
>Finally get to female romance
>Introduction is very brief, non-romantic, and she has little to do with the setting
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>>1971501
Sauce for pic pretty please?
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>>1971614
Rachael and Penny
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>Character A wants to fuck character B
>Character B wants to fuck character A
>They don't fuck because "let's take things slowly" even though they've been dating for a while, in love with each other and are mutually sexually attracted to each other
>They proceed to not fuck each other for 50 chapter while constantly getting into "weird" situations where at least one of them ends up naked or faceplanted in boobs/crotch, while the other gets aroused and still does nothing or they get interrupted
>Manga ends without them ever having sex, or if they do, it's offscreen
This drives me up the fucking wall.
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>>1972083
I identify with this.
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>>1972083
If only that ever happened.
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>>1972111
It's more common than you think.
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I don't hate men as much as you people but I hate it when yuri turns to het

The Lily X Asuka doijin that went het pissed me the fuck off.
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>>1972813
>I don't hate men as much as you people
You should really not be such an assumptive cunt but that's just another pet peeve to add to this thread.
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>>1972818
I'll be a as much of a cunt as I want to be, thank you very much.
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het fics in general
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>>1962112
>I heard good(?) things about it

I do wonder what good can one possibly say about Citrus.

The art is good, but that's all I can think about.
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When people use the word 'het'. Just refer to those kind of things/romantic developments as 'not-yuri'. What are people going to do? Assume that both girls were traps and it was yaoi all along? When has that ever happened outside of an doujin?

It even covers situations where the girls don't get together in the end, but don't get boyfriends either, making it far more versatile than the former.
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>>1974134
Ease of typing onee-san
3 letters vs 7 and a dash. I don't use het as an insult or anything but it's a useful shorthand. Plus het implies male romantic interest as opposed to just being subtext. Not yuri would include things like empty subtext which many girls here still like, het means there's a male love interest or the girl is actively chasing dick, which on a lesbian image board is good to know.
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>lesbians hate all men for absolutely no reason other than to "justify" being gay in the first place
>men are portrayed as evil for the exact same thing
>short hairxlong hair and yes, I love Mai and Reo

>>1961808
>>1961824
>>1961831
>>1961965
>>1961991
>>1962078
>>1965984
>>1966253
>>1967241

These people get it.

>>1962101
>reading Citrus

Laughingcrocodiles.jpg

>>1964973
I love the sound she made during this scene. Shame we don't get to see Kazuha and Akira get together at the end, though I heard they're almost certainly fucking when Haru and Sora come back to visit in the VN.
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>>1972083
Don't mind slow development but it gets to a point where all the tropes get used
( Like FF ) and then it drags on a little too long for not even a big enough reward just to maybe see them kiss once if even that.
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>Constant whining in the fandom on how bad the male characters have it and how we need more male characters in yuri

Biggest pet peeve of all. But then, the same people are also crying emo tears about strapons and girls that aren't girly enough, so stupidity is expected.

>It looks dumb and it kills my boner.

Good.
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>No kissing
>Literally everybody and their grandmother is in love with the prince
>Cheating and fucking a dude to make sure they're gay
>One-sided sex
>Every girl has the same fucking body type
>"N-no, it's dirty down there." It gets more unbearable after their first time together
>Using bisexuality as a main plot point for drama
>Sudden futa
>Any variant of "You're already this wet just from x? How dirty"
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>>1975893
>projecting

Strapons and toys are shit and people have a right to say they are. Get over it. Plenty of people don't like them even outside of yuri and for good reason.
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>>1967976
That's so damn infuriating. I literally have to choose to exclude males altogether. It would simply be annoying if not for the fact they were straight fucking misusing a simple term for 2D LESBIANS.

>>1970094
Western animation isn't yuri, dumbass.
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>>1975982
They look dumb, but they feel good. Much like sex in general.
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>>1976022
Yuri lovemaking is art in motion. Second only to snowfall.
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>>1976029
Four feet of fluffy white bullshit past night. Another three of the solid brown kind piled across the end of my driveway, courtesy of the city.
Fuck snow.
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>>1975893
>Constant whining in the fandom on how bad the male characters have it and how we need more male characters in yuri
As far as I know such arguments are motivated by a desire to see yuri become more successful and mainstream, not because we obtain pleasure from seeing male characters in anime. The downside is that they'll use up screentime and some people will draw doujins with them paired with the lesbians, but that might be a worthy sacrifice to make yuri popular.

Also more than the show just having male characters, it's important to show that they're supportive of the lesbians or there's no point. You could have the villains of the show dislike them for it, but I think it's better if it's just not treated like a big deal by anyone involved.
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>>1975893
It's not that we want male main characters or potential love interests. I just want some variety in my yuri beyond "everyone is a lesbian and men are rapists". Men can have great roles in yuri manga, the guys in sasameki koto were great for example. The faggots in show by rock were good but didn't diminish the yuri ships in the least. The men in symphogear (minus topdad) all manage to be great supporting roles and don't intrude on their love lives.
Sure it takes away female screentime, but of you're that scared of seeing men then okay good for you, but some of us like good stories.
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>>1976043
I just want to see a manly man or Coldsteel squealing at the sight of girls loving girls.
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