>ctrl + f
>no Madoka Magica thread
I am disappoint, /u/
>>1959394
Why is HomuHomu so pervy?
>>1959394
Shut up Homu. Where were you to keep your eternal waifu thread alive?
>>1959396
She was busy maintaining the forces of evil in her universeand furiously masturbating to Madoka
Madoka a bully
>>1959395
You would be to if you had a girlfriend as cute as Madoka
>>1959394
Not like we always need one, wait for new discussion on Feb. 14th
>>1959394
You don't need to propagate a thread subject eternally. That's what killed /vg/, turned it into a bunch of clubhouses wrapping themselves in so-called discussion.
Sometimes it's better to let things settle, like a crop cycle.
She's a cutie.
Does someone have the picture where Madoka is lifting her skirt for Homura while Homu is non-chalantly drinking coffee?
>>1959483
I got you, fampai.
>>1959474
>wait for new discussion on Feb. 14th
what's happening on Feb 14th?
>>1959397
Oh, so that's where the third panel comes from.
>>1959490
More news on the upcoming Madoka project.
What a date to pick.
>>1959483
>coffee
I always thought she was drinking her pee
>>1959394
Archived Threads:
http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Threads#Threads_on_/u/
--
News:
http://matomagi.doorblog.jp/
http://madokanews.tumblr.com/
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-category-23.html
--
Subs:
(protip, use nyaa)
TV: get "Meguca;" "tri4" for subbed commentaries
Compilation: get "Coal Girls"
Rebellion:
Meguca
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=552753
NAX (Aniplex subs, 720p)
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=537610
Reinweiss (Modified Aniplex subs with honorifics and JP name order, 720p)
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=537734
--
Fanfiction:
http://pastebin.com/VRVQSNGY
---
Doujinshi archives:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mad1y92708hlz
http://www.mediafire.com/madokadoujin
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
--
Madoka Library:
http://piratepad.net/MadokaLibrary
http://sites.google.com/site/madokacatalog
https://mega.co.nz/#F!BIt1FAxR!Ebrx91Z0PT970NanZTWCFQ
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
--
Scanlation Groups:
http://yuri-ism.com/tag/madoka-magica/
http://yurihou.se/?tag=puella-magi-madoka
--
Latest English Releases
http://dynasty-scans.com/doujins/puella_magi_madoka_magica
>>1959506
this isn't Sono Hanabira, sis
if the devils a perv then gods a bigger one
>>1959394
ded thred was ded
it's time to let it fade away
>>1959538
They're both huge perverts and would probably end up as that couple in your group of friends that never always ends up in some level of intimacy and ditching or checking out early on group activities if it Madoka wasn't Madoka.
Thus that position falls to Sayaka and Kyoko.
>>1959592
I want hormonal, needy, screwing-at-every-chance-they-can-get KyouSaya.
>>1959599
>pic
>imminent yeast infection
>absolutelydisgusting.jpg
>>1959599
it's realistic! if you've ever sorta not got along with a girl for a while, and then suddenly it turns around and you start dating, there's just so much more sexual tension to burn through!
>>1959601
At least it's not whipped cream or anything. It's just a bit of chocolate and can get cleaned pretty easily before anything nasty sets in. This, however, might be a touch more dangerous.
There was this yuri VN set in this candy shop or something and the couple made a candy double dildo and as I was reading it I just kept thinking "nooo" and couldn't enjoy the lewd.
>>1959599
Don't we all. It's basically been my headcanon since I finished the show.
>>1959599
Try Energia's doujin, "Our Survival Strategy" and "Sayaka's Grand Strategy for Sex" to name two
>>1959614
I've read those ones to the point of saturation.
It's a troubling time to be a Madoka Magica fan. The buzz has faded, and so too have the doujins.
>>1959614
Different anon but I'm fairly certain I've also read both of those.
You aware of any kyosaya with an element/focus of/on lactation? Seems like something they'd be into.
>>1959619
Not a doujin but I at least have an image for you.
>>1959623
>not drinking it
>just squirting it everywhere
As if Kyoko would do that.
Old thread for archive purposes >>1942431
>>1959779
you can't see it, but there's a huge bowl of cereal in front of them
>>1959592
If Rebellion taught me anything, it was that Madoka drops the good girl act when it's only her and Homu.
We don't need a new thread at the moment. There is nothing to discuss until the end of MADOGATARI in February, which is also when the next issue of Wraith Arc is out. Let the general die until there's actually new material or we run the risk of slowly deteriorating into /ksg/ or some other shitty /vg/ tripfag chatroom.I would also be for the banning of all Madoka threads from /a/ until that point as well, as they are even fucking worse.
>>1960156
it's good that no one shares your opinion
>>1960533
clearly someone does, seeing as no one is posting
>>1959494
>More news on the upcoming Madoka project.
Are we sure?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-15/nitroplus-opens-twitter-account-for-new-gen-urobuchi-project/.97620
This kind of makes it sound it won't be, unless he's being intentionally vague or will have multiple announcements.
>>1960593
Why would they announce it twice?
>>1960544
If you don't need anything here, don't join. Threads are still up for few weeks on average, which is normal for this board.
>>1960611
I mean Urobuchi would announce more than one project.
>>1960593
I doubt this is the potential sequel since I don't think Urobuchi would be the one to announce it. But it wouldn't be too out of sorts for him to work on two things, considering we don't know when either are coming out.
The life of a writer is hectic at the beginning of production but winds down as the real meat of the production happens.
>>1960881
I would be a bit peeved at the false alarm if the project Gen has been hyping up end up not being Madoka. You're right though, that in itself wouldn't quash Gen's involvement with the new Madoka project. Gen was really busy after the TV series, and worked on quite a few projects between that and Rebellion, but no one ever doubted his involvement in Rebellion back then.
Watching their twitters, the Magica Quartet go on drunken benders together all the time. It would be really unexpected if somehow Gen got cut out of the new Madoka.
But the new Madoka project doesn't need to be announced by Urobuchi, it was already announced and they also said he was involved:
>Magica Quartet—the team behind the Puella Magi Madoka Magica anime, consisting of director Akiyuki Simbo, character designer Ume Aoki, scriptwriter Gen Urobuchi (Nitroplus), and animation studio Shaft—have continued plans for a new work since the Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Movie Part 3: Rebellion film opened in October 2013. The concept movie was born from their meetings.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-23/madoka-magica-new-concept-movie-gets-different-version-in-osaka/.96858
>>1961383
Homo's too cute.
>>1961393
I think the announcement people were hoping for was cour or movie and possibly title. The day the concept movie played, I think everyone should have assumed Rebellion sequel.
>>1961400
They're probably not far enough with development to tell even that much; they just completed what amounts to a glorified concept art after all, there's no telling whether they have even started the real work yet.
It certainly would be silly to deduce that they changed writer just because he is currently working on something else, we could be more than a year away from seeing this sequel.
>>1961405
Oh I'm not expecting anything soon. Minimum late 2017. And there was no way Urobuchi isn't a part of this. If Shinbo really wanted to, he could have gone Psycho Pass 2 and asked Urobuchi for notes to build a story off of and we would have gotten a (bad) Rebellion sequel much sooner.
For anyone wondering why people assume Gen is/was going to talk about Madoka:
He attached this pic to the Tweet where he said he'd make an annoucement. There's an event where he will be at regarding a new project on the 7th of February. The Saparro Madogatari lasts through later half of the second week of February (ending Valentines Day).
With all the Mami hype in the recent NewType article and conceot movie, it seemed to more than coincidental because he has never come off as particularly attached to Mami as a character.
There is little reason schedule wise a popuar man like him can't make two annoucements/be on two different panels in one week.
>>1961394
Don't let the pigtails fool you, she's quietly schlicking to Madoka's morning breath.
>>1959401
Madoka will always be on top in bed.
>>1959479
>>1961439
Both elbows are bent at ~90°, so it's impossible for her to be doing anything down there in that pick.
>>1961685
her knees could be hiding a hitachi or bullet+remote
>>1961439
>Implying this isnt cute
>>1961677
Homucifer doesnt stand a chance. Honestly I do hope a MadoHomu fight ends with Madokami declaring her dominance by tongue kissing the devil.
>>1961924
There likely won't be an actual fight in the first place. Not between Madoka and Homura, at any rate.
>>1962147
I personally agree they wont fight. If they do, it'll quickly devolve into reconciliation. Mami's apparent role as the Guan Yu of megucas makes me believe she'll be doing any real fighting on Madoka's behalf.
>>1962335
Though, If Homura sees it coming, then Mami stands no chance of victory. Homura is like Batman: if she has time to prepare, she will win.
>>1962587
Mami DID get the drop on her in E3 and beat her last movie. I dont think she can necessarily win without Madoka's help, but she is the most qualified to fight her.
>>1962613
I said if she can prepare. She wasn't paying attention and didn't notice Mami tying her ribbon onto her leg.
If Homura initiated a battle with anyone with the intent to remove them from the fave of the universe, then Homura would always win.
When Homura wins initiative, Homura wins.
When Homura knows the fight is coming and can prepare, she wins.
Mami also didn't win even with the element of surprise.
Had Homura wanted to kill Mami, she VERY easily could have. Instead, she shot her in the leg.
The clone bullshit happened out of fuck-all nowhere should never have happened in the first place. Mami never had a reason to make something like that before and it would require an extremely long time to create a clone that complex and lifelike. I don't care how good she is, she shouldn't have been able to make that shit up on the spot and not have fucked up to the point of Homura noticing. Especially while talking. She also had to cast her voice through the clone.
That was Deus Est Machina in full swing and I will not let anyone fool themselves into thinking otherwise.
>>1962634
Line #2 word #16
That should be 'face' not 'fave'.
I know this isn't /r/ but does anyone have the manga page where Homu has been on madoka for hours and (I think) they're on the floor?
I lost this with a phone format and haven't found it since
>>1962722
>implying mami can be unfaithful when no one loves her in the first place
>and that her bondage rope has no meaning at all
>>1962789
Is this what your referring to? I found it in this doujin.
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/anata_ga_mahou_shoujo_ni_naru_to_iunode#1
>>1962792
I understand what you mean, but, think about how much she owes mami. Would it be out of the question to go along with it if it was a request?
>if only we could ask
>>1962799
Thank you for trying but no
>it was more of a rape scene
What I do remember is that if it wasn't the entire page, it was at the bottom
Madoka was glazed over
>>1962722
Have you seen my ot3?
>>1962825
how about you stop breaking global 8?
Anticrack, have you ever heard of the Fiction Identity Postulate?
>>1962832
>not complaining
ah, but you know it will be taken as complaining by the janitors, and yet you continue to post.
>>1962832
>How does it feel
well, if you hate me, I must be doing something right.
also:
>spiteful
very much so. spite is my main motivation for most things.
>>1962827
>>1962830
Again, please don't reply to the autistic ban evader. Carry on normally or wait until his contributions are deleted.
>>1962835
sorry, my spite keeps motivating me to try and get him to chill out.
>>1962835
But we enjoy provoking him anon
>>1962841
Do you really think anybody here takes you seriously enough to actually argue with you? That's cute
just go away, anti-crack. no one wants you here, and you don't want to be here, so do us both a favor and go be a pain in some other group's ass.
>>1962845
All he wants is attention. If you ignore him, physically hide his messages, then it'll feel better.
>>1962839
>How does what someone takes it ass effect what it actually is?
it doesn't affect what it is, but it does affect how it will be treated. It will be percieved as complaining by the janitors, and they will then delete the post and ban you. again.
>>1962846
yeah that didn't work in middle school and it won't work now.
>>1962849
At the same time, anything online cannot come to anything more than a stalemate. You've seen him. He won't stop at anything to preserve the sanctity of the relationships of his favorite fictional teenage lesbians.
>>1962855
Garbage goes in garbage comes out.
>>1962855
>No, actually, it's not about attention. It's about improving this fandom.
>The whole point of this is to get people to improve themselves.
Well, aren't we altruistic; how about you be honest with yourself and admit that you are doing this solely for your own benefit?
I'm not a fan of crack myself, but people are allowed to like things I don't, so kindly stop trying to "help me"; I find that posts like yours are what's actually disruptive to the fandom.
>>1962874
don't try and use reason on him.
these threads are actually just containment for anticrack- if we keep him mad here, he's not harassing the rest of the board about how he thinks morality is objective and he's the only one who actually loves the characters
>>1962879
Anon... you should take your own advice.
This is painful to watch.
>>1962814
Anon, I know exactly what picture you want.
>tfw it's on my broken phone
I'll support the movement for finding this pic because I want it to
>>1962902
Thread quality has to do with how well the discussion contained benefits its general audience, doesn't it? Indeed it can be considered objectively. As far as crack goes, it can serve as an occasional spice and piece of fresh content for a fandom with a relatively slow pace of new material. As a component of the overall web of fan-produced Madoka Magica content, it's inclusion serves the readership of these threads quite well. Objectively, high quality crack content contributes to thread quality.
Contrast this with your own posts, which involve nothing but insults, argumentation, and meta-discussion not directly related to the subject of the threads you post in. It seems a simple matter to deduce which posts objectively contribute more quality.
>>1962634
>Mami ribbon clone is bullshit
>Sayaka uses Octavia like a stand
>Everyone can see Madokami
>Homura splitting Madokami isn't BS
You know, I just kinda role with it and don't worry about things like this.
>>1962939
>"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes And other science facts Then repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'
>>1962926
>Because by using your logic, the "thread" of Nazi Germany is "high quality" because they all think burning jews is fun past time.
I'm dying here.
>>1962927
Did i hurt your feelings, ACK?
I'm genuinely sorry
>>1962951
just ignore him, he goes away eventually
>>1962926
And here be my daily dose of Godwin's Law.
Can we stop focusing on the troll and go back to posting Homu
>>1962952
I know, but he always comes back and we can't really stop him, so i might as well fuck with him while he is around
>>1962927
at least those people are posting madoka and not your fucking irc log screenshot
>>1962947
Oh god the projecting.
>>1962943
This gets a different meaning with Rebellion.
This explains why it's been quiet on /a/ today.
(as in no Madoka thread)
This thread was quiet before too and hardly had any posting, then this mess happens.
Starting to notice a pattern here and it's not just the debater's fault.
>>1963194
mostly just low doujin count for a while, less content of anything.
Even in between the years of the end of the show and rebellion there were floods of doujins to compensate.
Surprising not a Madoka doujin.
MamiNagi needs more fans
>>1965488
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=54710793
>>1965492
I wish I knew what was being said
>>1965495
surprise you don't know, i'm not even fluent and i could read all of it.
>>1965507
translate for us senpai
>>1965507
I get the jist of it but I want to know exactly what they're saying.
>>1965488
What's the appeal of MamiNagi anyway? I love me some good age gap, but I can't help but think people only ship them because they think they're supposed to.
>>1965561Stop it, you'll summon he who must not be named.
>>1965566
Oh I'm sorry for trying to have a discussion. I guess you're too afraid of a shitposter you can easily ignore to bother contributing to the thread.
>>1965569
The appeal is pairing the spares. That's it.
Everyone's too coward to ship crack
>>1965578
That's what I always imagine the case was. It's really unfortunate that quite a lot of Rebellion seems to be unnecessary fan service. Even KyoSaya makes more sense then MamiNagi.
>>1965580
>>1965578
>>1965561
here i have the one stop solution for all your mami shipping needs!
>>1965586
That doujin is really great and all, but I prefer MamiKyo.And HoMado and MamiKyo get together to have orgies every once in a while.
>>1965561
/ll/ best
>>1965595
>>1965599
So in your case it's mostly the age gap and older sister type x imouto relationship? That's fine and all, but what I'm really wondering about is how people view the chemistry between the two. They barely interacted in the movie for me to get a good enough sense of what their daily lives would be like together.
The reason why I ship Kyouko and Mami together is because of the past they share, the shit they went through together formed a bond that, while shaky and painful, would form into a healthy and happy relationship. But Mami and Nagisa simply don't have that history, so it's really hard for me to understand how well they fit together, other than as spares being paired up.
>>1965580
>Even KyoSaya makes more sense then MamiNagi.
Even KyouSaya?
KyouSaya has much more canon support than MamiKyou (which has zero)
You plebs can keep your pleb Mami pairings. Meanwhile I ordered this delicious selfcest book and will be scanning it when it arrives in about a week. Hope somebody's up for translating!
>>1965602
I can understand why people started shipping Kyouko and Sayaka, but I don't understand how they could get together, or if their relationship would even last. When did the shipping for them even start? When they started fighting, or when Kyouko sacrificed herself to kill Octavia, or when Kyouko got mad at her dying in the last timeline?
I really wish I had been watching Madoka and browsing /u/ during it's original airing so I could have understand all this better.
Now don't even try to pretend Mami and Kyouko don't have any support. Regardless of what you think, there's is absolutely no reason why The Different Story isn't canon.
>>1965604
Those fingernails are disgusting.
>>1965606
Have you never seen a witch before?
>>1965608
Yeah and those fingernails are too long, nigga. Like shit, does she plan to rip Mami's vagina to shreds or something?
>>1965606
>but I don't understand how they could get together
Rebellion explained how
>>1965610
I'm forced to accept that as canon, but that's clearly another example of unnecessary fan service that didn't need to be in Rebellion.
Because why did Sayaka regret leaving Kyouko behind specifically? Why not Homura, or Mami? At the point Sayaka died for the last time, she and Kyouko had just barely began to become friends. It all just doesn't feel genuine or natural.
>>1965612
>At the point Sayaka died for the last time, she and Kyouko had just barely began to become friends. It all just doesn't feel genuine or natural.
She became part of the law of the cycles, she had knowledge of timelines past (she also knew about witches).
Kyouko and Sayaka becoming friends in the wraith timeline, and in Homura's barrier, just goes to show that they tend to gravitate towards each other naturally
>>1965612
How is sayaka x kyoko completely unreasonable
but mami x kyoko (who have less interaction, less screen time together, and who have known each other the same amount time that sayaka and kyoko have known each other) completely reasonable?
>>1965617
I forgot about the law of cycles. That makes me sense now. I hadn't read the Wraith arc yet, so I didn't know about that.
>>1965618
Sayaka and Kyouko started off as enemies, or in the best of cicrumstances, begrudging partners. It wasn't until the final timeline and Rebellion where they started acting friendly toward each other as far as I remember.
But Mami and Kyouko knew each other at a much earlier time int heir magical girl career and became friends who genuinely respected and admired each other from the get go. Yes, they fought and felt negative feelings for each other, but the history they shared early on is something that I always thought would come back as they spent more time together. Eventually that would naturally form into love.
I guess I'm doing a poor job of explaining myself, but it just doesn't feel right for Sayaka and Kyouko to get together, I don't know.
>>1965624
You're forgetting the conversation between kyoko and sayaka in kyokos fathers church.
Kyoko confessed that the reason she was being so hard on sayaka was because she understood her and didn't want her making the same mistakes she did.
The both of them reached an understanding that they are more alike than they originally thought.
Also don't forget how hard kyoko took it when sayaka turned into a witch and the lengths she took to try and cure her.
>>1965604
>yuri lewds
>long nails
>>1965634
I liked those scenes, but I never interpreted them as anything more than Kyouko seeing a way to somehow redeem herself by making sure Sayaka doesn't become as much of a fuck up as she was. At most, I could accept Kyouko maybe having a short lived crush on Sayaka.
>>1965639
I understand.
I just wanted to know your reason for supporting mami x kyoko.
>>1965578
>>1965580
I'd totally give up KyouSaya for more MamiNagi. Sure, the appeal of MamiNagi is more about the idea or concept than their actual onscreen character interactions, but it's proven a damned good concept thus far.
There's the comedy angle of portraying Mami as a desperate pedophile. There's the sheer /ll/ sweetness of playing the pairing straight. Or there's the kinkiness of juxtaposing that these characters really don't have much to do with each other, such as objectifying Mami as Nagisa's cheese. Any way you slice it it's pretty high tier entertainment.
>>1965704
sounds like a personal problem
>>1965704
You could just care about them and scanlate it. You know, exemplifying the right priorities to have.
>>1965704
Keep them
And keep your ego.
>>1965709
i don't need to prove anything to you. keep your fucking doujin, i don't need it.
>>1965710
Your misguided attempts to, as you've stated before, improve the fandom is pointless. People will like what they want to like. It's called free will. And if there's one thing people hate more than anything it's to be told what to like.
Sorry but I'd rather never see any of those than to make you think we owe you anything.
>>1965709
>degenerate
That's the exact same thing people say to disregard yuri altogether.
It used to be just an ironic buzzword but now people are using it sincerely and it makes me mad.
>>1965718
Can I vote for kinky, lewd, lesbian, hawt, sexy, or delicious?
>>1965716
Why don't you go make your own board, find your own enclave who can be your echo chamber and leave us the hell alone?
/u/ will never be what you want.
>ITT: a holier than thou degenerate arguing against people's kinks on a porn board
>>1965661
After having thought a little more about it, I would have to say they just feel like they fit together.
Mami likes to cook, Kyouko likes to eat.
They're both orphans due to their own actions, though not deliberately.
Mami is a lonely person who wants to be depended on, Kyouko would never admit it, but she is lonely too and wants friends.
There's so many things that they can relate to each other with, I'd also like to bring up another point;
When Mami went berserk after she found out the truth about wishes, she killed Kyouko first. Why would she do that? She wasn't the biggest threat, Homura was. I believe she killed her so she wouldn't have to suffer watching her friends get killed, Mami killed her first because she cared the most about her feelings.
Sorry if I'm not getting my point across, my reason for shipping them mostly comes from feelings I'm not really able to describe through text. Either way, they just feel natural and right.
>>1965724
If you and other people who were against crack left one thing would change: there would be one less judgmental asshole shitting up this board.
Go away and never come back.
>>1965720
Okay, change vote to propose, then. I think each of those words could make for pretty good candidates.
>>1965718
polyamory. open relationship. bisexuality (though that doesn't really apply, here).
>>1960887
Couple things.
1. Mami being in that photo was just a new years joke (kimono, shrine visit thing). There's no bait and switch involved.
2. Urobuchi's said himself that he'd possibly like to leave it to a new writer if he could. If he's not the lead writer on a sequel, it would probably have been at his behest so he could work on other things. Urobuchi doesn't actually like doing things forever so much (in his afterward to Fate/Zero he even talks about his mixed feelings to making a prequel for a work that's already complete, and about milking franchises in general), and he's said that he did Rebellion partially because he felt obligated to after being given complete free reign with the story of the TV series.
>>1965741
In my experience with other franchises, having someone other than the original writer for a story make a sequel usually doesn't end as well as it could. I think he ought to stick around one last time and make a definitive end to the series with no possibility of it being continued.
But then that runs into the danger of him being tired of making Madoka and just half assing it to get it over with. Though I actually have no idea how his attitude is toward such things, as I don't keep up with this sort of thing.
>>1965736
if theres a dunkin donuts in your area see if theyre serving the cookie dough ones, theyre delicious
>>1965725
>She wasn't the biggest threat, Homura was.
That's why she tied Homura up first. Kyouko was the next biggest threat because she had the most experience and was the one most likely to fight back. It makes sense that she took her out before she could figure out what was going on. Mami was very methodical when she went berserk.
>>1965736
a mix of glazed, sugared and iced should satisfy most tastes.
>>1965748
Well, that's one way to look at it, she was methodical, but not enough. She forgot about Madoka, which leads me to believe she was running primarily on emotions at that point, which is why she killed Kyouko first because she loved her.
type-b cm
>66 new posts
>oh boy oh boy-
>second-worst pairing by that one MamiKyou fan who always uses "HoMado" for MadoHomu so is pretty easy to spot, and also anticrack-kun coming out of the woodwork (not mutually exclusive grouses)
Sometimes I dunno what's worse, the radio silence or the fights.
>>1965810
end
Author is @warriorkk
>>1965753
Yes, she thought Madoka wouldn't do anything since she was still on the floor crying about Sayaka. She underestimated her. I don't disagree that she was also running on emotions, but saying that she killed Kyouko first because she loved her seems to be stretching it when she had given no indication of that before.
>>1965811
>Satori Wraith
I guess this points to Wraith Arc becoming canon at some point?
Magicraft 2 got a cute new commercial, voiced by Yuuki Aoi and Emiri Katou.
http://www.bpnavi.jp/kuji/item/1452
Cool thing that they're both in-character, referencing the post-Rebellion world.
>>1965968
It still can't help but feel it's a faux pas to wear an outfit based upon the corrupted and warped expression of your small friend's soul.
>>1965972
My reading of Rebellion is as part of LoC the girls come to accept their witch counterpart as a part of their self, hence that Sayaka-Homura alley way conversation. Besides, Mami actually invoked Bebe actually took her worm form for a portion of the movie, so whatever trauma was no longer relevant.
>>1965968
>get your filthy hands off of Madoka
>Madoka, why aren't you looking at me? Look at me. Look ONLY at me!!
I feel like this with 90% of these group images.
>>1965832
She killed Kyouko first because the scene wouldn't work if she killed Homura or Madoka
>>1965968
>cute
>playful
>big sisterly Mami
Gonna try and build myself up with this kind of Mami so that when she causes SHTF again it'll be all the more powerful.
We goddess of War soon.
>>1966023
>Look at me.
So... Sayaka?
>>1965950
Not necessarily. It's not unusual for tie-in manga staff to have early access to animation concept materials.
See also Mami in Kazumi Magica having the white tights from her original concept sketch, even though the anime changed them to dark.
>>1965832
I see it as her affection for Kyouko, which she stuffed deep down inside after they parted ways, bubbling back up and exploding into love. To me it's a "Oh shit, I love her. I hate it, but I don't want to see her suffer, so for her sake she has to die first." kind of feeling.
But I feel like I explained enough of my reasoning for shipping MamiKyou. I want someone to tell me why they might ship KyouSaya since I'm always having to explain myself and no one else has to.
>>1966042
I'm a shameless rival shipper and I like how Kyoko and Sayaka's relationship evolved over the original show. Mami just doesn't feel like she has the same connection or even the potential to make that connection and the only reason I'd really go for it is that it's a bit more fitting for lactation fetish works.
>>1966051
I see, makes sense. If The Different Story didn't exist, I might agree with you.
If I had to choose between KyouSaya and KyouMami, I'd most certainly go with the latter.I ship neither, though.
>>1966063
Neat, but what are your ships then?
>>1966066
different person,
homu-mado is the only ship.
Loner Kyouko is just too good of a character and I hated her Rebellion version.
>inb4 but that is her when she is happy!
and?
Plus, I like it when Uro says that as long as Sayaka goes for the straight route she will never have a happy ending, she doesn't deserve to be happy.
>>1966066
B-but that's a secret, onee-sama~
>>1966070
I like your points.
>>1966073
Hey wait a minute, what are you trying to heavily imply, sis?
>>1966035
I still want this so bad.
>>1961680
THANK YOU
>>1965810
>Black dress (funeral dress?)
>White dress
I really hope Quartet isn't fucking with us again.
>>1965811
Sorry, what do these sketches represent?
>>1966344
New scenes in the Osaka concept movie.
MamiKyou anon, you missed the point of TDS! It's not MamiKyou, it's Mami's intense kouhai fetish. Whoever's her kouhai, she likes. It doesn't even have to be one person at a time!
>>1966357
You're completely right. But Kyouko and Mami still have that history that lays the foundation for my ship.
>>1966357
Wasnt this exactly why Nagisa is the perfect partner for Mami?
>>1966368
So indulge in some MamiSaya too, sis!
>>1966369
Pretty much. Loli kouhai.
>>1966370
I would never ship Sayaka with anyone, I don't like her enough.
>>1966369
you got it
>>1966374
Well, there's no helping poor taste.
But do keep in mind most people do like Sayaka and the rival dynamic she has with Kyouko, which is why the ship is as popular as it is.
>still no post-madoka, pre-rebellion content
why does the best triumvirate era get shafted so?
It's an optimal time for suffering and badassery.
>>1966377
Yeah, I understand that now. I really like the whole rival x rival dynamic, but just not for Sayaka. Plus, Sayaka isstraightso it wouldn't be fair for Kyouko.
>>1966377
>But do keep in mind most people do like Sayaka and the rival dynamic she has with Kyouko, which is why the ship is as popular as it is.
Sayaka is popular because she suffers.
I like her most when she suffers, and the more she is lovey dovey, the less she is suffering, and so the less interesting (and the more pretentious and annoying) she becomes.
>>1966379
Sayaka's physically attracted to Junko Kaname, Madoka, and Homura to at least some degree. Saying she's bi really isn't out of the question.
>>1966379
>Plus, Sayaka is straight
>Implying she can't play for both teams
>>1966382
>>1966383
When did Sayaka ever act attracted to Junko or Homura? Yeah, I know she's Bi at the most, but in my head canon she's straight and just likes to jokingly flirt with her friends for fun.I'm running low on MamiKyou pictures, does anyone think someone will draw some MamiKyou for me in the drawthread?
>>1966377
>But do keep in mind most people do like Sayaka
>Well, there's no helping poor taste.
>>1966386
She gushes about Junko during the discussion about ribbons, and calls Homura a quote-unquote "total hottie".
And leaving Sayaka straight leaves her totally alone. It's sorta unfair, I feel, when Mami has her shiny new kouhai to stave her pain but Sayaka is left to just kinda watch her ex-crush and friend act lovey-dovey.
>>1966388
Oh, I remember now. But you don't need to be gay to realize someone of your own gender is hot, but I get what you mean.
I'm okay with Sayaka being alone, she's a shit.
>>1966388
Seems like an appropriate fate for someone who's primary role was whining about the world being unfair because she doesn't have a body and her crush doesn't like her back.
>>1966391
Good taste, imouto.
>>1966393
People always seem to forget that a darkened soul gem affects mental condition too. People aren't the cheeriest and most accepting when they're sick. Sayaka's sickness is directly within her essence. She's just a stupid who doesn't realise cleaning it will make her feel better.
>>1966394
>She's just a stupid who doesn't realise cleaning it will make her feel better.
That's why I think she's a piece of shit. I have no sympathy for people who sit around cursing their misfortune without bothering to do anything to try and help their situation.
>>1966379
Both Sayaka and Kyouko care deeply about each other you should stop pushing this "staight" crap she's moved on and from the looks of the story progression has grown attach to Kyouko.
>>1966396
As far as I'm concerned Sayaka considers Kyouko to be a dear friend and partner. I'm okay with admitting Sayaka is most likely bisexual, but she clearly leans towards dudes.
Plus I really don't care if Sayaka gets happiness, so I don't think too much about her.
>>1966397
But what makes you think romance between the two is implausible? That's what it sounds like you're saying. Sayaka at the very least considers Kyouko important enough for her to decide coming back and helping with Homura's problem to be a worthwhile endeavor. After seeing what Kyouko's done for her, she values her high enough that she regrets going with the LoC. Not losing Kyousuke, she felt it was still worth it in the end. No, it was leaving Kyouko alone that stung her.
It feels more romantic than Mami getting a crush on her kouhai and then filling the void with other cute newbies when said kouhai has a mental breakdown.
>>1966378
>Implying Homura lasted more than a week being seperated from her soul mate
Wraith arc suggests she crashes pretty hard.
One of the Anthology books has a few post-series segements. Homura is miserable so Kyoko and Mami try to cheer her up. Homura and Kyoko get along well as battle buddies but don't have too much in common personally outside of their tragic lives. Homu purposely gets injured and visits a nurse named Madoka so she can hear/say the name. Homura is also grooming Tatsuya into becoming a ecchi artist, not realizing he's drawing pictures of his non-existant sister. Madokami is not pleased.
I am a little surprised by the lack of fan content on the three exclusively. It was a solid 2 years of no new content.
>>1966396
this. kyousuke and kyouko having similar names is not a coincidence.
>>1966380
>Sayaka is popular because she suffers.
I wish you were right, but I know too many people who like her as a character. She's an arrogant shit because she knows everything going on in Rebellion.
I loved when Homura got her back for the alley way trolling at the end of Rebellion.
>>1966400
You don't have to love someone to try to save them. They were comrades, so it's only natural she would care enough to come back for her. Like I've said before a romantic relationship between Kyouko and Sayaka simply doesn't feel natural or right. KyoSaya just feels forced, it doesn't feel like the natural development of working together, but MamiKyou does.
>>1966425
You see things really inverse to how most people do. MamiKyou has always looked sisterly to me and romance feels kind of tacked on for the sake of pairing the spares in the end of series and Rebellion intermission, making Sayaka suffer, or that one Pixiv artist who has KyousukexSayaka as their OTP for whatever reason.
>>1966426
Oh I agree that MamiKyou is a sisterly like relationship. But I always thought that relationship would develop into a romantic one, given enough time. I guess I should post my headcanon of events leading to this:
Post Rebellion Sayaka and Kyouko become much closer as Sayaka loses more of her memories of the Law of Cycles. Kyouko, being niave and innocent about how love works assumes that she and Sayaka are dating.
As the years go on Kyouko starts questioning their relationship to herself as she and Sayaka haven't been doing any lewd things or kissing at all.
When she confronts Sayaka about this, Sayaka is confused and doesn't understand, as from her point of view they've just been very close friends for that time. Kyouko realizes her mistake and distances herself from Sayaka to clear her head and try to make sense of what's been going on.
She goes to Mami for advice on how she should handle this. While all this had been happening, Mami had slowly become more aware of romantic feelings for Kyouko, but resigned herself to supporting Kyouko and Sayaka's relationship, as she assumed they were dating as well and she wanted Kyouko to be happy.
Upon finding out that they had not in fact been dating, she blurts out a love confession, claiming she had loved Kyouko the entire time and rambles on about why she felt this way. As she listens to Mami's explanation, Kyouko starts to feel the love and admiration she felt for Mami when they first worked together bubbling up once again. When Mami calms down, Kyouko proposes that they try dating a little bit to see if they work well as lovers.
There you go, that's what I think would happen. You guys can go ahead and make fun of my fanfiction all you want, but that's truly how I believe Mami and Kyouko should get together in a post Rebellion world.
>>1966395
Mostly agree on Sayaka, but to me Mami isn't that far away from Sayaka's position. Mami is just a lot more sympathetic, and she can pull her weight even if she is alone.
Can someone explain to me why crack shippers are such awful people? No really, they have ruin endless threads, attack people on a daily bases, and have killed nearly all productivity of scanlating fan content.
>>1966434
Hey, crazy idea, but have you ever considered the fact are wrong about what you do and say?
All this talk about ships.
The only ships in this franchise I care about are Homumado and Maminagi. The latter because lolis need their nee-chans, while the former makes the most sense and has become personal for me.
Kyousaya, otoh, does nothing for me.
Oh, they talk to each other and come to some sort of understanding? That's not how romance works, imoutos.
>>1966540
It's the dynamic, nee-san. When a dynamic resonates with you, for whatever reason, you become attached to a duo. And a lot of the time, people interpret dynamics as romantic. And then the dynamic changes, they get more touchy-feely and playful... it feels more like a couple compared to the onesided pining for Madoka, you know? Homura completely loves Madoka but it doesn't seem couple-y or romance-y. I like MadoHomu and all, but there's a reason why so many of their doujins are domestic lovey-dovey fluff compared to more grounded KyouSaya stuff (not to say it lacks any, but still).
>>1966549
>compared to more grounded KyouSaya stuff
I've heard people say this, but I dont understand it. KyoSaya is solely based off of them beating the shit out of each other and Sayaka holding her hand at the end of Rebellion.
MadoHomu is not even one sided. Madoka is all over Homura in Rebellion and series Madoka is at the very least bonded with Homura in TL 1-3. Even in the shittier time lines where they aren't friends, Madoka is still drawn to her and I dont doubt she still will be.
KyoSaya literally just kills each other.
>>1966549
>It's the dynamic, nee-san. When a dynamic resonates with you, for whatever reason, you become attached to a duo. And a lot of the time, people interpret dynamics as romantic. And then the dynamic changes, they get more touchy-feely and playful...
That's stupid.
>>1966556
>and Sayaka holding her hand at the end of Rebellion.
Some people were bothered by Charlotte returning as Bebe/Nagisa, yet I found that moment to be worse.
And let's not forget that Sayaka was pining for a boy and did the things she did because of said boy.
>MadoHomu is not even one sided. Madoka is all over Homura in Rebellion and series Madoka is at the very least bonded with Homura in TL 1-3. Even in the shittier time lines where they aren't friends, Madoka is still drawn to her and I dont doubt she still will be.
What she said.
>>1966540
>Oh, they talk to each other and come to some sort of understanding? That's not how romance works, imoutos.
To be fair, it's not that much worse than the reason Mami and Nagisa/Charlotte got shipped together.
>>1966556
KyoSaya's based on them communicating with each other openly and changing as a result. MadoHomu is that for one flashback episode, outside of which their relationship consists of Homura doing her best to not be honest with Madoka. She has a pretty good reason for it, but it doesn't really make for a compelling relationship.
That, and the handholding is preceded by Kyouko and Sayaka living together and having a playful and affectionate relationship.
>>1966540
>the former makes the most sense and has become personal for me.
Tbh I'd rather Homura have the mercy kf death than be friend zoned.
>>1966580
>She has a pretty good reason for it, but it doesn't really make for a compelling relationship
It seems compelling enough to base a major portion of a franchise on.
It seems like the only reason Homura didnt try to take anything further with the relationship was because she was focused on the whole witch problem and Madoka shouldnt be here thing.
>That, and the handholding is preceded by Kyouko and Sayaka living together and having a playful and affectionate relationship.
Dat sweet off screen development that let's you believe anything you want about the pairing.
>>1966587
>It seems like the only reason Homura didnt try to take anything further with the relationship in Rebellion* was because she was focused on the whole witch problem and Madoka shouldnt be here thing.
>>1966587
>It seems compelling enough to base a major portion of a franchise on.
Nah, that portion is about their connection and Homura's obsessive love for Madoka, not their relationship. They barely even have a relationship outside of flashbacks.
>Dat sweet off screen development that let's you believe anything you want about the pairing.
That's pretty funny coming from someone championing MadoHomu. Besides, it's not offscreen. You see exactly what kind of a relationship Sayaka and Kyouko would have under more pleasant circumstances.
>>1966582
Every Homura in the world deserves a Madoka.I know this because I'm a Madoka.
>>1966587
>Dat sweet off screen development that let's you believe anything you want about the pairing.
Dat sweet off screen development that only exists to pander to fans.
>>1966599
Madoka doesn't really deserve Homura though.
>>1966599
>pander
How original.
Some people can't accept a pair that had little screen-time from a movie that focuses mainly on Homura.
Least you get the idea why they're so close now and it's understandable witnessing the events of Sayaks's arc.(notably episode 9).
The minority of this /u/ audience just seems to dislike or not care for the pair at all just 'cause of their whining of little development when it's obvious why the two are close now or downright hating Sayaka and (occasionally) Kyouko as characters.
>>1966621
Bitch, I'll cut you;_;
>>1966627
>How original.
This is an argument?
Let's see here:
TV series airs.
Sayaka and Kyouko interact non-romantically (except when your goggles are set to retard).
Fans inexplicably ship them.
Said ship is really popular.
Years pass.
Rebellion comes out.
Suddenly your yuri goggles don't have to be set to retard anymore.
What happened?
A: Urobuchi/the staff noticed the popularity of Kyousaya and wrote it in to appeal to the fans (AKA "pandering").
Or,
B: Rebellion shows how their relationship would become romantic because the situation is different or some shit. Eventhough this Sayaka is exactly the same Sayaka that pined for Kyousuke for the whole series and showed no romantic interest in Kyouko.Am I seriously arguing about ships? Please, kill me.
>>1966654
Sayaka's explicitly over Kyousuke in Rebellion. Ever since episode 12, she understood her wish was dumb and selfish but reasons that it's still worth it to give Kyousuke a chance to play the violin again (after all, as she mused early on in the series, she's a girl almost completely content with her life who's offered a wish while someone who deserves a miracle like a crippled boy doesn't get one). She's a-okay with Kyousuke and Hitomi being together and recognises Kyousuke doesn't make the greatest boyfriend.
People always overlook Sayaka's more introspective moments and just think about episodes 6-8.
>>1966621
That is way too true for its own good.
But Madoka really is the only person capable of loving Homura.
>2016
>people are still wrong on the internet
Fuck it, let's just pair the two best girls together and call it a day
>>1966674
You don't care about the characters and their established relationships, you just care about pleasing yourself.
Just kidding.
KyoHomu is something I dont see enough of. It's almost non-existent in dojinshi. It seems like it'd be at the very least entertaining.
>>1966654
Yeah, how could a girl who desperately wanted to be loved change her view of someone who cared about her enough to die for her? So incredibly unrealistic.
>>1966657
>Sayaka's explicitly over Kyousuke in Rebellion. Ever since episode 12, she understood her wish was dumb and selfish but reasons that it's still worth it to give Kyousuke a chance to play the violin again (after all, as she mused early on in the series, she's a girl almost completely content with her life who's offered a wish while someone who deserves a miracle like a crippled boy doesn't get one). She's a-okay with Kyousuke and Hitomi being together and recognises Kyousuke doesn't make the greatest boyfriend.
And therefore she must date the other person whose name starts with kyou.I told you to kill me.
>>1966654
>Am I seriously arguing about ships?
Where do you think /u/ are?
>>1966684
I just never thought I'd stoop this low.Quick and painless please.
>>1966596
>Nah, that portion is about their connection and Homura's obsessive love for Madoka, not their relationship. They barely even have a relationship outside of flashbacks.
Are you implying flash backs are not important in a show which a significant plot piont relies on time travel?
Urobuchi already said they had a lovelike relationship by the end of the series. It showed hard in Rebellion. It took one movie to push Homura into the romantic love zone, it'll take one movie to do the same for Madoka.
>You see exactly what kind of a relationship Sayaka and Kyouko would have under more pleasant circumstances.
You get to see their relationship had Sayaka not been completely unlikable as a character. Kyoko already wanted to be friends, showcased by the three time we see Sayaka.
Madoka and Homura would have still been friends in any universe that Homura didnt actively avoid forming an emotional connection with her. Sayaka only considers Kyoko a friend after she died, got over her crush, and came back to life.
>>1966702
>Kyoko already wanted to be friends, showcased by the three time we see Sayaka die.*
>>1966674
>the devil and the preacher's daughter
Yeah, totally not cliche.
>>1966758
It's a sexy cliche.
>>1966775
Are you the one whose posts keep getting deleted?
Amusing to see this rare beast in action.
>>1966702
>Are you implying flash backs are not important in a show which a significant plot piont relies on time travel?
No, but it is a bit of a problem when they all happen in a single episode and mostly when Homura's a completely different person.
>>1966784
>Amusing
You must be new.
>>1966706
And she was friends with Sayaka in all three timelines.
>>1966775
>because you bastardize how they are portrayed in the series
Aren't you the guy who used to scanlate porn doujinshi of 14-year-old girls who never went beyond handholding in canon?
>>1966788
Kyoko wanted to become friends. Sayaka rebuffs her every single time.
>>1966802
Sayaka doesn't rebuff Kyouko when she's dying. She opens her heart to her and admits she was wrong. The last time it happens, Kyouko explicitly says they were friends. We don't see much of the first time, but they are on the same team.
>>1966819
She said she doesnt even care anymore. She doesnt have the energy to rebuff Kyoko.
The line was "We were just starting to become friends." Kyoko feels that way in every time line even if Sayaka hates her. To be fair, I do attribute most of this to the "conclusive" (re: miserable) ending of the series. There is no real resolution on KyoSaya and Rebellion gave us that. It was heavy handed though. Beginnings and Eternal do a better job than the series presenting KyoSaya, but it still doesnt feel like it should happen. Now I will admit, Madoka doesnt realize how much Homura matters to her until she made her wish. It seems like Sayaka felt the same way when she died. But, the fact is 1) KyoSaya never did a naked space hug through time and space and 2) Kyoko doesnt remember sacrificing herself for Sayaka's sake because she only has one timeline of memories.
>>1966825
>>1966834
>She said she doesnt even care anymore. She doesnt have the energy to rebuff Kyoko.
If that was all there was to it, why would she talk to Kyouko at all? And why admit that Kyouko was right, or look her in the eyes as she dies? They have a real connection in that moment.
>KyoSaya never did a naked space hug through time and space
They lived together, held hands and didn't have one betray the other, so I'd say they're at least even.
>Kyoko doesnt remember sacrificing herself for Sayaka's sake because she only has one timeline of memories.
And still she loves that hontou baka. Besides, Sayaka remembers.
>>1966851
Wait, why exactly are we arguing over "canon" ships that dont conflict with each other in anyway again? This argument made sense 2 hours ago.
>>1966857
It's fun to talk about Japanese cartoon lesbians (and bisexuals!).
The only character who actually loves another is Homura, and her love for Madoka has become something twisted. Madoka has always thought of Homura as a friend and nothing more.
Sayaka and Kyouko spent most of their time interacting as enemies. Kyouko wanted to help Sayaka as a means of redemption, not because she loved her. They lived together in Rebellion because Homua wanted them to.
Anything more than this is headcanon. The "canon" couples only exist because that is what is popular among the fanbase. Many of the artists who make doujinshi for the "canon" couples write the characters however they want, without any regard for how they act in canon.
Arguing about canon vs crack is pointless because neither actually exists.
>>1966870
I wish you'd namefag so at least I could blacklist you.
