IDK why you guys shit on Elysium, shit on Matt Damon, shit on Blomkamp (except when you cuck about District 9, like every movie should be fucking District 9). IDK why /tv/ does this!
I watched Elysium on BD and: great visuals(lots of effects and well executed); story was GREAT(yea it has tangerines with near future, which is a plus, and a cohesive, fluent and well paced narrative); acting was above good, all the leads doing very well.
Just cause you guys are hate driven and bitter neets with no future doesn't mean a movie is not good.
On the other hand Chappie was shit ruined by Antwoord with are subhuman trash.
>>71910539
I liked all the movies mentioned and rolled my eyes at your fgt buzzwords, fucking kids
>>71910539
if it wasnt for the 'focking prown' man it would be an utter shit. Him and the guns kinda saved that horrible movie.
>>71910831
NNnno no!
>>71910745
Lets not forget about snowpiecer, another /tv/ underrated movie.
...best movie ever
>>71910831
Why do you guys hate good movie, I don't understand ?!
Just cause Blomkamp is young and might look like one of you neets doesn't mean...
Movie of the decade...
>>71910984
no, you fucking didnt. you didnt compare this great movie to bait-shit Elysium
stunning visuals
>>71911067
its all about the message that Blomkamp tried rape us with. Also tech was kinda stupid like ressurection device. To cap it all expectations were to high
>>71911067
Its half a good movie and half incredibly ham fisted story with no subtlety whatsoever.
>>71911209
>resurrection device
Facial reconstruction?
>>71911218
You're both dumb.
Magical performance.
>>71911287
>Facial reconstruction?
as far as i remember Kruger died, didnt he?
>>71911386
nah, his brain was alive
>>71911386
No, his face was blown off and was in a fuckton of pain, but he was still alive.
>>71910539
I agree with all you said anon
>>71911399
>>71911406
well, you were right. the wiki says "Kruger is grievously wounded by a grenade blast". my bad
ITS THE SWEETY MAN
I watched District 9 for the first time a couple days ago, and I really liked it. Is any of bumpkins other shit worth my time?
>>71910539
Space paradise gets ruined by sjw's after they ruined earth.
>>71911602
>Is any of bumpkins other shit worth my time?
anything else does not reach District's level but its ok. Anyway Sharlto Copley is an asset anywhere.
>>71910539
the scene where matt damon mocks the talking robot is like a cringe carnival
they even put it in the trailer
>>71910539
But the movie is the exact same as District 9. It's not bad, but it's so similar in tone, theme and structure to District 9 that it might aswell be called APARTHEID WAS BAD :(
>>71911849
District 9 was fresh and the message wasnt so obvious
>>71910539
Because it wasn't District 9
>>71911865
>D9 wasn't obviously about Apartheid
Really?
Is it weird that I like this movie just as a dumb action movie? Because then the lack of subtly with the message isnt as distracting. Never got around to watching Chappie, is that worth a look or worse?
>>71911849
>that it might aswell be called APARTHEID WAS BAD
But this wasn't the message to District 9.
In fact D9 showed most of the "aliens" were so stupid and primal, violent chimpouts in the making, that lib media actually started scratching their heads and wondering if it wasn't all racist after all.
>>71911950
no it wasnt. it was secondary story. The primary was the Copleys transformations and aliens homecoming.
I fucking love bloemkamp's designs for vehicles/objects/weapons.
Could you imagine a star wars worked on by him? We would actually see some iconic designs emerge from the franchise again.
>>71912273
This. I think his movies are worth it just for his design and special effects work, which is untouchable right now.
>>71911964
If you like Bloemkamp at all it's 100 percent worth it. It's better than Elysium in my opinion.
>>71911950
It was actually about present day immigration. Africans south of Congo all head to South Africa and steal jerbs and sleep on the streets unlike native south africans who sleep in abandoned buildings.
>>71911964
if you can stand listening to fucking yolandi then yeah dude sure go for it
>>71912273
>>71912369
Didn't WETA do a lot of the designs for D9? Their stuff is always top notch.
>>71912452
Didn't WETA do the Hobbit...?
>>71912369
Yea, watch that BD at 35Mbps on 40'display, that's some eye candy right there boi.
>>71910539
>IDK why you guys shit on Elysium, shit on Matt Damon, shit on Blomkamp
90% of stuff people 'shit on' here is perfectly fine or at least tolerable
And with the stuff that is actually garbage, like Marvel and DC movies, nobody listens to /tv/'s warnings
>>71912766
>implying that elysium is better than capeshit
shig
>>71912766
capekino is a meme you dud
>>71910539
I never saw it
>>71912850
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:25e85ac2295b7da9c7979b40b61e07f3050e7b05
Elysium vs Snowpiercer?
Who wins?
>>71913020
snowpiercer, but only for its originality in setting
both are heavily flawed agitprop flicks
>>71911964
it's pretty flawed but worth a look. I don't get the hate for Die Antwoord, I don't like their music at all but they put on a pretty solid performance
>Matt Damon quips
no thanks
>>71910539
6/10
>>71910984
7.5/10
both underrated by /tv/, both still not great and very fundamentally flawed.
Those who hate Blomkamps work because of /pol/ related reasons do understand that the man is a complete racist? In D9 most of the aliens are useless and dumped on earth by the elders. In Elysium Damon fucks things up for everybody (things were already fucked up for most).
I too love Blomkamps designs and special effects. It's like he understands the usage of special effects way better than many other directors. That's partly why Chappie was a massive disappointment for me. The opening sequence made me rock hard and I was waiting for the last showdown but then everything was kinda meh and plot really silly. It almost went to camp territory but not enough.
>>71913200
>dumped on earth by the elders
I though their shit broke
>>71910539
It wasn't a horrible film, but it sure as hell wasn't good.
>cuck about District 9
Are you underage?
>>71913200
Neil "If you're black, you have to go back" Blomkamp
>>71913488
What's wrong with that?
>>71913200
God I hope this is b8.
>>71910984
This is like a 5/10 film at best.
>>71913586
Jesus Christ, why so bitter anon?
>>71913586
>5/10 at best
lol idiot
>>71913686
The film itself just has way too many flaws to give it more than that, despite its somwhat interesting premise.
>>71913753
Fuck off, idiot.
>>71913757
Name the flaws stupid faggot
>>71913787
>>71913757
>>71913586
You should fuck off right now!
Snowpiercer kino army here!
>>71913802
Everybody in the movie doesn't look or talk like his mom!
>>71913200
>In Elysium Damon fucks things up for everybody
But the space liberals were just hoarding resources to hold lavish parties in their orbital croissant. They aren't depicted working hard for noble purposes, you have no reason to sympathise with them. Earth is shitty to begin with but it can evidently support the people living on it. Damon killing himself to activate universal healthcare is not likely to make things worse for most humans.
>>71913802
For an example, they have this working class of people on the train, but they don't seem to actually do anything but sit around and be poor. Get rid of them and you've solved your problem with population.
Another scene I found stupid was the part where Chris Evans discovers he's been eating bugs and acts disgusted when he's literally eaten human children.
Then there's the positioning of the carts, which is just a minor complaint.
And the entire ending was just fucking retarded.
Those are a few of my complaints.
>>71913962
>space liberals
What was liberal about them? They were practically Ayn Rand reincarnate.
>>71914016
>human children
are delicious you bitch!
>>71914016
eating bugs is gross
but shrimp, lobster, crabs & crawfish are fine
Both were enjoyable. Snowpiercer was much more orignal in style though so it gets my vote for superiority.
>>71914196
>eating bugs is gross
especially if they taste bad
>>71910539
Zero subtlety, and the final act kinda felt like a big nothing. I didn't hate it, but I didn't really like it either. As a follow-up to District 9, it was a letdown.
>>71913078
Agitprop? The Elysium scenario doesn't seem unbelievable at all. I can easily imagine 'the 1%' relocating into a luxury space station staffed entirely by robots while Earth turns to shit before global warming and globalization. If the necessary technology existed, why wouldn't they? It's one of the most well thought out premises for a sci-fi film in a long time.
>>71910539
>>71911321
Hamfisted anti-Capitalist sci-fi power rankings:
>Flick: The Hunger Games
>Movie: Elysium
>Film: Snowpiercer
>KINO: High-Rise
I liked Snowpiercer pretty well until the final act, but High-Rise never loses its sense of humor
>>71914016
>Get rid of them and you've solved your problem with population
>small children are taken away
they keep the population balance cause the upper classes can't fuck fast enough
>>71914082
Not liberal humanists, just liberals. Not really different from classical liberals except their ideology isn't limited to straight white christians.
>>71914321
>global warming
Implying it's real?
>>71914343
>High-Rise
was a mess
>>71910539
That irish leprechaun dude was p cool.
It feels like Elysium was supposed to have a pro immigrant/non-white message but actually shows the opposite. All whites (except Matt Damon) and rich people have left earth to live in a space station, where they've developed miraculous technology. The non-whites left on earth have apparently turned the planet into a giant favela.
>>71914401
Best film I've seen in years
>>71914401
I agree, it's a mess.
>>71914376
Climate change, dustbowl, desertification, aquifer depletion, rising sea levels - all these things have happened in the past from entirely non-human causes or from the effects of primitive human activities on their environment, why can't they happen in the future? there's no need for it to be caused by your F150
Blomkamp can be great when he wants to. He just needs to reign in the social commentary a bit and keep his plots focused
>>71914435
Why do you /tv/ tards see defectuous b movies as the pinnacle of cinema? You're not smart if you do that.
>>71914494
>good director
>half-rate writer at best
>wastes his whole career on shitty vanity projects
I feel like a whole generation of filmmakers has been poisoned by "auteur theory"
>>71914511
I genuinely liked it. It stuck in my head and I immediately wanted to see it again. And I liked it even more the second time I saw it. That hasn't happened in a while. I'm not trying to impress you
>>71914433
>The non-whites left on earth have apparently turned the planet into a giant favela.
I may have missed a thing or two but isn't Elysium about an oppressive space colony armed with millions of security robots and futuristic artillery denying people on earth freedom, technology and access to earth's resources?
>>71914433
Wagner Moura , do you have a prob seeing the color white?
>>71910539
Elysium wasn't good. It got completely sidetracked with the dumb aussie assassin plot line.
OP is probably aussie shitposter
>>71914477
Completely indoctrinated, won't even try to red pill him.
>>71914611
Watch rec 1, Attack the block and see how a sci fi with a high rise building should be done.
>>71914433
I felt the same way. Felt racist for thinking this.
>>71914825
Rec 1 was very good, but High-Rise is EASILY better than Attack the Block. And I liked Attack the Block just fine.
But it's kind of a tough comparison because High-Rise isn't really driven by action like either of those films, it's more of a dark comedy. At this point you might as well throw in Dredd and The Raid if we're just naming entertaining films set in a high-rise
>>71913020
that's not how you hold a gun
>>71914619
Yea, they rule Earth from space and keep most humans at pleb level.
>why did you guys shit on Elysium
In what alternate universe did this happen
Sony had Blomkamp neutered from the start. Hoping his next work has nothing to do with them.
>sony leaks '14
>>71914968
i'm not a normie so i don't know why, but nerds complain because it was meant to be a Halo movie
>>71914619
You missed the part where the guy running the robot factory is bankrupting himself to keep as many of these plebs employed as he can, despite the fact that his robots are perfectly capable of running the factory without any human oversight, like they run Elysium.
The Elysians are the only people with ethics in the whole damn movie.
>>71914929
Then aren't THEY the people whose actions perpetuate Earth being a giant favela? It isn't logical to blame the people on earth since they're being dicked by Elysium. And despite this, the favela people are actually shown going to work, building tools from scrap, helping their friends and worrying about the state of public health. The people on Elysium order missile strikes on poor people.
>>71914985
>movie about healthcare and class struggle
>avoid socio-political themes
u fukkin wut m8?
>>71910984
On the contrary, Snowpiercer gets a lot of praise here and its a shitty movie.
>>71914985
This is fake, right?
>>71915045
Why not make the robots work for people on earth? Why make robots that prevent people on earth from organising and improving their living conditions? Is there any point to the operation? Why doesn't the guy simply file bankrupcy and let earth people repossess his factory?
>>71910984
>>71911115
Favorite scene, experiencing true silence was fairly poignant
>>71915391
Yeah you're hallucinating
>>71915417
Raw material still costs money. He didn't program the robots to oppress people, he just made the robots. The Earth Government buys those robots for law enforcement. So blame the politicians for that.
"Repossess" the factory? You mean nationalize it? It's still America, not Venezuela, no matter how many hispanics are running around Southern California.
This is the Atlas Shrugged situation except this John Galt, who built Elysium, is still making jobs for the poor when it's the least profitable way to run his business.
Those same poor who murder him for the contents of his pocket [brain implant].
>>71914894
>more of a dark comedy
More like a sluggishly decaying drama.
District 9 had more of a charm to it.
Elysium was in a spate of other movies with similar themes, visuals etc and felt uninspired. Did we really need more exoskeletons? Etc?
>>71911115
>>71911321
What the fuck Freddy was in this movie? Are these some high quality shops or have I somehow entirely forgotten that he was there?
>>71915990
Spot on
>>71914985
>Sony had Blomkamp neutered from the start
>Elysium
> Writer: Neill Blomkamp
>>71915045
They were making robots for Elysium, previous contracts were with them and future ones, and humans were probably cheap as shit.
>>71915373
u wot m8, u shut it m8!
>>71915391
made in powerpoint
>>71915440
>he knows
>>71915417
Because humans on Earth are viewed as worthless trash and to give them anything(even rights since they are closely kept in order by the droids) is a disadvantage also to keep the population in control?!
>>71915711
>didn't program the robots to oppress people
Remember when the main character got his arm fucked up at the beginning?
>>71916438
Yes, by a homeland security droid at a bus stop.
Remember when they're planning the Coup?
>You built this station.
>You provide robots for the defense contracts.
He just builds them. This is made abundantly clear.
How they're used is up to the clients, which in this case is the Earth Government.
rip John Carlyle.
>>71916541
>which in this case is the Earth Government
Yea well who else has the money or the legality to buy them?
>>71916572
Once again, blame the politicians not the businessman.
I'd be willing to bet those miracle healing beds are banned on Earth because of some stupid earth government regulation too. It probably contains "a chemical known to the State of California to cause Cancer"
>>71916082
District 9 was more creative, even in its socio-political theme. Sure, it was "inspired" by the apartheid, but it was built with a twist instead of just hamfist in what happen with apartheid. The alien can either be the black, or white in the apartheid. In one hand, they are mostly savage and violent and do not fit into the human culture well. They operate on a biological caste structure due to their nature as arthropod On the other hand, they are the foreigner to the land and also have technological superiority over all human on earth. While the native Africans and alien could have cooperate and greatly benefit from each other, they remain separate due to the difference between them. Meanwhile, they both get exploited by another entity outside of the country, the UN. Both the native african and the aliens were in the wrong and resulted in the separation between them.
Meanwhile, elysium is basically: immigration is good, please let in the poor people or you are evil.
>>71916646
Man just look how he disposed Max after he got radiated!Do you get it now? He doesn't give a shit. it's just cash-flow to him, so he's just a tool.
>>71916650
>The alien can either be the black
Just.
>>71910539
>except when you cuck about district 9
I hate retards like you
>Hey Jim I finished building a fleet of spaceships each one capable of making an entire state immortal. What do you want me to do with them?
>Oh put them all in hangar that will never be used? Okay then
>>71916726
I'm guessing the politicians also killed work safety regulations and workers rights. If you listen when max gets to work
>REMINDER employees are only allowed one bathroom break per shift
Safe to say all the regulations are out the window at this point. Carlyle did nothing wrong.
>>71916650
>Meanwhile, elysium is basically: immigration is good, please let in the poor people or you are evil.
The worst part was:
We have all this tech to cure people but choose not to use it on people.
Effectively it portrayed Jodie Fosters people as "We fucking hate you all!" They didn't go, "Oh there are limited resources for this stuff... we perpetuate a system to protect our end..."
The move LITERALLY ends with them sending support down to "cure" Earth of so much shit.
So basically the whole morality of the film is reduce to rich white/asian people are evil.
Fuck... I dislike Avatar but even that had more nuance in setting out that they needed a power resource and tried the peaceful way but had to go to conflict.
>>71916924
they were used
>>71916924
>>71917093
This. The movie would have been a lot better if by distributing the resources fucked over the space colony and it blew up or something leaving the earth with no resources except for whatever they brought down on the ships.
>>71917184
Were they? Because I remember that girl with cancer had one next door, and if it cures all your problems you should really only need it once every 10 years or so, or in case of emergencies. So theoretically the whole spaceship could probably survive on like, 100 of these machines.
this was a lowkey redpilled film
on the surface it looks like lefty propaganda, boohoo all the poor peoples being exploited while the rich cunts get to live in Paradise waaah
but look closely. Did the rich people world have ANY flaws whatsoever? And the immigrants are represented as life-threatening invading cockroaches in janky space ships.
Blomkamp knew exactly what he was doing
>>71917093
>So basically the whole morality of the film is reduce to rich white/asian people are evil.
Why would they, rich white/asian people, reduce the pleb's rights to shit and refuse to give them a bunch of machines to take care of their health?!It's not that much when you think of what they accumulated(and if you thin about it they did it o the back of the plebs even b4 the robots)
main attraction to bloomkampf movies is aaron beck concepts desu senpai
>>71917313
But they are rich fucks man, didn't you see that the houses they broke in were always empty?! So these rich fuck probably have many house/locations packed up with everything cause the owners are RICH AS FUCK.
>>71917341
That's my whole point: WHY. The film shows no consequence. As I said, it never went "Oh we can't use these machines on everyone.. resources..." The film makes it seem like the rich could have used them at any time.
It is really ridiculous when a film maker tries to hamfist a message but muddles it up by making things so black and white.
Everyone would want to live on that station when the world has been made so awful, due in part to overpopulation. Why the fuck should you prolong lives in that situation?
This film really needed a rewrite.
>>71917456
>it seem like the rich could have used them at any time.
BUT THEY COULD'VE.
> due in part to overpopulation.
I think the problem is that nobody cares about the quality of life of the plebs down on Earth, that's why they live in slums which makes everything look drab and miserable.
>>71917580
>BUT THEY COULD'VE.
That was my point... dunno why you are repeating it.
>>71917417
>aaron beck concepts
This!
>>71910539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us0_VcgmdRE
>>71917580
>BUT THEY COULD'VE.
not him, but this is really weird to read
you understand he's not talking about the objectivity of the world presented and trying to find some solution in it, he's arguing the construction of said world doesn't leave much space for discussion/thinking and makes arbitrary demons of the people on the station, yes?
