Can we get a Kino appreciation thread going?
Truly beautiful OP, saved and thnx.
Zack Snyder is great at doing things that look cool. Like a child, he values that above all else and makes movies with the mindset that he just wants shit that looks cool with no other meaning behind it. Try listening to his commentary on Watchmen and see if you can make it past ten minutes listening to that idiot.
I'll start.
>>71886586
https://youtu.be/W3SLLEzkG8c
http://vmashup.com/ONk4QdzT
>>71886495
Yes, he is a true artist.
>>71886584
whoa - never noticed this
>Even at his most pedestrian or bombastic, Snyder makes a far more engaging film than Christopher Nolan (an executive producer of “Batman v Superman”) ever did—because Nolan presumes to know and to show, whereas Snyder wants to see. Even his slender philosophical world seems like he’s discovering it, not delivering it.
>>71886939
I always thought about that scene and this is a rad picture to show Supes how he truly is.
>>71887152
I like Brody but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
>>71887321
>>71887399
It absolutely does. Nolan's is matter of fact, bland, a stifling, empty world. Snyder's is vast, teeming with adventure, of which we see but pieces.
Reminder to read Plato's The Republic to truly understand Clark's mindset.
>>71887399
But it does
>>71887576
wtf didn't notice that.
WB bros are the coolest mf ever. everyday when i visit MoS or BvS threads I discover something new
when will we stop discovering new things about Snyder's work bros? ;_;
>>71887152
So Nolan is an established philosopher, whereas Snyder's a retard?
>>71889151
>Nolan is an established philosopher
Compare this
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>>71889266
to this
>>71889305
Too little CGI and no pissfilter, 0/10.
Snyder wins again bros xDD
>>71889305
looks like a school play, boring
snyder puts emotion in that scene
>>71889266
Jesus Christ how awful
>>71889305
I can actually see what's happening, what a piece of shit scene.
>>71889299
What do they mean by this?
So just finished a DCEU binge rewatch and noticed the priest at Clark's funeral is the same priest he talked to in MoS. And his friend Pete Ross is in there too. Snyder is truly the master of capekino.
>>71889266
>>71889305
I don't get it. why are you hating the BvS scene? where you expecting some grass footage like Malick or super precise angles like Kubrick? You're just hating bros
>>71889266
I'm assuming Kryptonians still have a heart in that area so I don't get how superguy isn't instantly dead
>>71889572
>movie starts with a funeral
>ends with a funeral
also pays homage to The Seventh Seal
Snyder is truly a genius ahead of time. We're not worthy
>>71889305
Reminder
>>71889596
Kryptonians have two hearts or some shit idk.
>>71886540
wow that's actually a bit autisticly impressive
>>71889572
You can see Starlord's moms during Cap America.
>>71889605
Haha, I get that reference!
>>71889630
>If I namedrop the film I stole a scene from then it's not plagiarism, it's an homage!
Slimy Jewish fuck.
>>71889717
That was my favorite scene in the movie. Not even kidding. Definitive version of Wayne murder.
>>71885093
Explain Kino to me.
>>71889717
Does he have an original bone in his body?
>>71889717
>>71889798
>adapting a comic scene panel by panel
>original bone
wtf is wrong with you? seriously?
>>71889305
A:10 V:10
Thanks YIFY
>>71889717
>>71889957
what a fucking failure
>suit not tattered
>helmet is on
>no spidey lying in the foreground or other heroes
jfc mahvel directors are lazy piece of shits
>>71889957
>they are fighting in the same pose lmao so deep
>>71889957
pffffthahahahahaha
>>71889717
Truly kino here
>>71886540
can someone post a wallpaper of this pls
>>71886939
more of those pls
where are the ones with the religion imagery?
>>71890238
>>71890311
Do you have the one comparing this with the painting?
>>71889717
Way better than Nolan's cuck version of Thomas Wayne
>>71890311
CAN MARVEL EVEN COMPETE?
>>71890311
Is this actually from the movie? I thought all that 3deep5u crap was a bunch of bullshit, but this may actually convince me otherwise
>>71889622
>>71889572
>starts with a funeral which shatters bruce wayne's faith in humanity
>concludes with a funeral which restores his faith in humanity
>lex luthor is driven to darkness by superman's existence
>bruce wayne is brought back into the light by superman's existence
>>71890387
only in shit quality
>>71890913
meant this
>>71891001
>>71886540
>>71886939
holy shit, nice.
>>71886939
I thought Abomination was the one from The Hulk, and Doomsday was in BvS. Did they really miss that and let that line go into the final release?
>>71891702
your mahvel jokes have no power over here
The main theme of Snyder's "Batman v Superman" on spiritual dematerialism is not eschatological, but a phenomenological ontology. Thus he implies that we have to choose between predialectic construction and deconstructivist neodialectic theory, essentially Heideggerian as seen in the concept of Dasein. The subject is interpolated then into a cinematic dematerialism that includes spirituality as a whole. But if the Kierkegaardian worldview holds, we have to choose between the cultural paradigm of expression and atomism. In Snyder's own "Man of Steel" he has a character says that "the world's too big”. Inherent in this is how the function of Lebenswelt (cinematically translated by Snyder as "world of life") operates in all his films, chiefly in "Sucker Punch" and "300". We see a phenomenological approach to the world showing a cinematic logic that presupposes a strucutral constraint in rootedness, another intentionality central to his filmography and philosophy. Because "metaphysical comfort" is not an object of temporality per se, but rather an aspect of automatic condition, as suggested by Cavell. Hermeneutic interpretations are also apparent in his post-"Watchmen" movies; in fact the interchangeable subjectivities are but another representation of Husserl's and Wittgenstein's "form of life". As his academic hero Heidegger succintly noted, "freedom is the ‘abyss’ of Dasein, its groundless or absent ground". This is essentially the thesis operating in Snyder's films.
>>71892272
“Art is intrinsically meaningless,” says Ben Affleck. The primary theme of BvS' analysis of Sontagist camp is a mythopoetical totality. The characteristic theme of the works of Snyder is the common ground between society and language. But the premise of dialectic superheroism holds that the establishment is capable of social comment. The subject is interpolated into a social realism that includes narrativity as a whole.
“Society is unattainable,” says Kal-El. It could be said that Luthor uses the term ‘neomaterial desituationism’ to denote not sublimation, but presublimation. If social realism holds, the works of Snyder are an example
of purposeful superhero movies, also known as "capekino."
In a sense, Marveldrones promote the use of postdeconstructive objectivism to attack capekino. The subject is contextualised into a neomaterial desituationism that includes reality as a reality.
But dialectic superheroism suggests that culture serves to entrench outmoded, elitist perceptions of capeshit. Terrio uses the term ‘neomaterial desituationism’ to denote a self-supporting totality.
>>71890496
>he hasn't seen the kino of the century
>>71891045
More importantly about this is that he's pointing right at the explosion from Doomsday back on Earth
One of the best moments of the movie
>>71886540
>>71890232
Anyone?
>tfw unironically enjoy MoS and BvS (the extended edition is actually pretty solid) but cant tell if I am just being mocked by threads like these or not
>>71887107
REDDIT GET OFF MY BOARD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>71887321
based
>>71890486
This shot was seriously one of the dopest homages in any comic book movie and it only lasted like 2 seconds.
Become enlightened.
http://pulpklatura.tumblr.com/post/141843209469/batman-v-superman-the-modern-revenge-tragedy
>>71892272
>>71892307
>>71893650
This is what i call true "Snyderkino"
>>71889605
kino confirmed
>>71893650
>tumblr
Go home before you're stomped
>>71889675
>bitch from 1940s
>Starlord's Mom in the 80s
Kek.
Try again.
Marvel drones looking for kino in their babbyfilms won't find it.
>>71889605
Batman apparently refers to the Parademons in JL as 'flying monkies.'
Snyder's kinology cannot be stopped, even by """""critics"""""
>>71889957
>Adapted the panel from the left
>took out all the conflict and consequence
Perfectly sums up Marvelshit.
Top fucking kek.
>>71893726
>he thinks tumblr is only inhabited by sjw landwhales
tumblr is literally the best porn site on the internet.
Maybe reddit is more your speed?
>>71889585
I posted the webms, I'm not hating it, I loved it, everyone seemed to get the wrong impression
Is this a new meme? pretending that BvS is some deep film?
>>71893854
>new
you have to go back
>>71893854
>pretending
Oh, child.
>>71893833
Go home before you're stomped. He >>71887107 wont even be able to save you
>>71886584
is this loss?
>>71893854
>meme
lmao
>>71890886
holy shit
>>71893854
>film
it's a kino
>>71891001
>>71891001
fuck that's some based shit right there
This is the first time I've posted on this subreddit despite lurking since it's beginning, but I just can't hold it in any longer.
What the actual fuck is wrong with people anymore? From what I've seen, this movie is so incredibly offensive and poorly done it looks like something one would expect from a pretentious art house flick, not a major film studio with a pedigree. Big names from across the industry and even further are piling onto this pile of shit defending it and saying it's the best thing ever while insulting every naysayer with ad hominem and strawman attacks. Just look at what they did to Christ Suckmeman for just saying he did a better version in 20 minutes. I'll have to watch it myself before I can legitimately criticize it, but I have zero expectations.
This isn't a movie at all, but a thinly veiled man-bashing political statement in a poorly made disguise. It's a disgrace to Nolan's trilogy, which looks like Citizen Kane in comparison. It'll probably make Catwoman look like a masterpiece.
All I know is that I'm fucking offended by this shitty movement as a multi-ethnic intellectual gay man who has actually experienced actual prejudice and racism in the real world. It's fucking cancer, infecting every bit of media that I cherish, filling the minds of some of my friends with its sickness, and tainting the creative gene-pool. We need a strong dose of Chemo to rid ourselves of this regressive bullshit before it's too late. And let me tell you, it really feels like the end is fucking nigh.
Let it all burn.
>>71894605
>>71886584
Holy shit . . . .
>>71895087
holy shit
>>71887152
why is it older men who are receptive to batman v superman
>>71895531
nothing to holy shit about. BvS was in production so long they just grabbed a kid and made him look like that because nothing better to do.
>>71886540
am i missing something?
>>71889305
good
>>71889266
bad
>>71895625
Because mindless children are the ones who eat up the MCU, and shit on BvS for it's lack of quips.
Older audience members who don't watch MCUshit went into BvS for it's iconic timeless characters, and pleasantly enjoyed the fresh and mature take on the Superhero genre.
>>71889605
whoa, it's like... referencing a movie...
>>71890496
before you get fucking memed by both 'sides'
the interesting thing about all of this is how the movie incorporates all these cultural artifacts so to say within the meanings played with in the narrative
in no way is it meant to just get points just for being there, rather, it's the inclusion of this these things that obviously trigger shit in the audience member who then connects it to what he's watching in the movie.
this is of course, obvious. but people focus too much on it just being there
>>71895625
Because they've seen films made before 1999,
>>71890496
There is a lot of powerful and iconic "2deep" imagery in the movie, yes.
Some of it subtle, some of it very blatant and in your face.
If you're into that kind of stuff, you'll honestly like the movie though.
>>71889572
>>71893750
Flash Thompson attends Harry's funeral in SM3.
>>71895894
True spongekinographe, every single image has too much going on.
>>71890486
This pisses me off. Snyder could have used a scene where he did the actual pose.
Pretty lame that an iconic pose had to be used in an easter egg.
>>71889957
>>71896013
No way
>>71896013
>>71889957
>DC uses incredibly iconic imagery from its vast history of comics, alongside other arts like timeless movies, paintings, and religion.
>marvel has a few fight poses that are sorta-kinda-similar to some mediocre comic panels
M-Marvel is k-k-kino too, r-right guys?!
Thread theme/essential viewing
https://youtu.be/7p5-14rjWUM
>>71896401
The difference is the ham-fisted way Snyder goes about it, including the lingering HAY YOU GUISE REMEMBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED IN THE COMIC BOOK or HAY YOU GUYS SUPERMAN IS A JESUS ANALOGY, THIS IS WHY SUPERMAN IS STANDING IN FRONT OF A STAINED GLASS WINDOW TALKING ABOUT SACRIFICING HIMSELF TO SAVE EVERYONE.
In Marvel, it just kinda happens and then you move on.
Given a choice between having your face slammed repeatedly into the comic book link or other allusions and it just being an Easter Egg you quickly move past any way, guess which one I'm gonna pick 100% of the time.
>>71896535
As a comic fan, I would much rather they give comic scene adaptations the spotlight they deserve. I've always wanted to see some scenes played out on the big screen, and having them be very small scenes can ruin it.
Can someone explain this meme to me?
>>71896535
i like how you're so serious about an opinion that isn't accurate at all
>>71896535
this is literal nonsense
jesus, it's scary how fucking imbecilic you marvel tards are.
why did MoS look pretty good but BvS looked like fucking dogshit?
>>71896401
I never said Marvel was kino for referencing panels of the comics they are adapting...because well....they are movies adapting comics.
>>71896535
>ham-fisted
Nice non argument buzzword.
>>71896738
Did you watch Man of Steel? Superman literally goes to talk to with a priest and stands in front of a stained glass window with Jesus on it while he struggles with whether to hand himself in to Zod or not.
And the stained glass window depicts Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemene, where he also struggles with whether to go through with his pre-ordained role or not.
Much subtlety, such insight wow.
Zack is just very heavy-handed with this stuff. It gets grating because it happens so often; if it was a one-off thing that would be different but it pervades all of his movies.
>>71889957
This took out everything that makes the panel on the left good, no strewn broken bodies of their fallen comrades, no battle damage on either hero, no ripped mask / removed helmet. Iron Man's hands aren't even right up on the shield. All the stakes are removed.
Marvelshit is such trash.
>>71897013
Honestly, they can fuck right off with this Jesus bullshit. Yeah, some comics focus on that aspect of the character, but none of the great storylines delve that into it.
>>71897090
>no strewn broken bodies of their fallen comrades
Bucky's body is behind Steve.
> no ripped mask / removed helmet
>>71889675
No one gives a fuck about meme man you marvel drone now get your shit and get out.
Stop trying to trick me into watching this flick, it's not going to work
>>71898277
Ultimate Edition is what should've been in theaters.
Otherwise, it's just flashy capeshit.
You wont regret Ultimate
>>71885093
yes
>>71897013
>that one scene
yeah, and?
so what
that and the pose outside of the spaceship are the only things you got, and even so, these things don't make a movie bad
there's no reason for you to be so triggered by this
is Man of Steel truly quipkino in disguise?
>>71898277
Then don't you dumb faggot, like that matters to anyone
>>71901628
are you fucking serious
i try to not be down with snyder but the guy keeps winning me over
>>71901628
>humour is synonymous to quips
>>71901628
That joke is too subtle for the dumb audience that needs every joke handed to them like they are in Marvel movies.
>>71901619
This is why no one fucking likes you people. Nothing implied he was upset. He's trying to have a discussion and you're just to much of a fucking child to listen to any criticism.
>>71889717
Probably the only good scene in the movie.
King Kong becomes attracted to a female of the human race symbolizes an intention of this improperly developed world of human emotions to conjoin with the more intellectual world of knowledge.
This conjunction is doomed to failure because the knowledge and progress of the modern intellect is artificial and therefore does not reach or affect the human heart in any spiritually helpful way. This neglect of cosmic responsibility brings the fabricated human intellect into conflict with real human feelings (which represent the reality of our inner world and our true being). This conflict plays out in the ultimate setting of King Kong climbing to the top of the Empire State Building—the pinnacle of modern, manufactured knowledge. But the “beast” is killed by the highest ideas of the fabricated human intellect (airplanes) because the modern world doesn’t want to deal with reality or its true responsibility of addressing its inner ugliness.
https://thegodguy.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/the-symbolism-of-king-kong/
It ties pretty well with the Apollonian/Dionysian conflict if you ask me. Note that Doomsday instead of falling in love with a female like King Kong does, his emotions are distinctly the opposite. He has a deep hatred for Clark, mirroring Zod's sentiment. So Doomsday represents another facet of man's primitive, forgotten side, not one that can be found looking into the past, but one looking into the future, represented by Krypton's failed society, and its over-dependence in technology, rigid mindset, and disregard for morality and human life for the sake of progress.
>>71902626
pulling shit out of your ass to justify some loose group identifiers. wow
imagine that, my initial thought was "react strongly" but since well shit, i'm on 4chan, i typed "triggered"
besides, despite the ocean of memes people do respond in earnest to pasta 'criticisms' as i did by contending the notion that a movie is bad by drawing a parallelism in a certain way in a certain scene while also noting that there is a certain irony about complaining about rampant hamfisted insert-film-meaning-technique when that scene and the moment clark has his last interaction with jor-el are the only things people ever point out, because that's all they have
and to be clear, i did address the criticism
by asking:so what? so what if he's framed with jesus and the scene is paralleled with gethsemane. i don't see how this can matter so much
>>71901628
what's the joke?
>>71887152
I unironically agree with this.
While the imagery in Snyder movies is pretentious Nolan just makes the characters sit down and explain shit to me, which is a hundred times worse
>>71902255
>>71903652
Is this a reference to something?
>>71885093
>>71885093
>>71885093
Can someone post all the explanatory pictures of BvS? Like the one with Excalibur and etc.
>>71893854
not new its been a while
>>71894605
its a meme friend
youre getting baited
>>71891702
The kryptonoan computer called it an abomination when it had zods body put it in.
>>71890311
they made wonder woman much bigger, when she was diana or whatever her name is she looked like a stiff breeze would break her. Here she looks like a tank
>Kino appreciation thread
Sincerely hope that shitposting about BvS will die off because it is even worse than your standard capeshit spam. Can't discuss actually important films and cinematography without some mouth-breathing neckbeard shitting the thread all over.
>>71895721
only taste
>>71893796
>>71890061
>>71886495
>>71886584
pure kino
>>71886624
Actually, it's pretty amazing.
>>71890886
fuck me is this still memes, where does it end
>>71893854
>pretending
wew, laddy
>>71895625
Because it is a movie meant to address men and women who loves men not pussified nu male or misandrist harpies
Wich coincidentally were the two type of critics that demolished the movies (not just sayed it fell short, or seemed to lack scene - wich are legitimate critisism- No they sayed it was the worst since the invention of the cinematographer)
Google "Capitalism" and "World Engine".
I unironically like Snyder's aesthetic
>>71889717
Why did paki kill them anyway?
>>71905985
What am I supposed to be seeing by doing that?
>>71904383
>as a multi-ethnic intellectual gay man who has actually experienced actual prejudice and racism in the real world.
This >>71894605 post is a meme.
BvS being great isn't.
You're the one getting baited fuccboi
>>71897013
So what ?
>>71897013
The point was that the Priest connects Superman, reduces him to another symbol, when Clark reveals his secret.
How can Snyder be too complex for you?
Good grief this board, even when it pretends to be know-it-all, has zero critical thinking.
