How is this so fucking good?
Good Superman movie
The animation is top notch
>>71858886
Nah. Not enough jesus imagery, bleeding, or neck snapping.
>>71858857
Brad Bird and no Lindelhof.
>you stay....I....go
>no following....
When I have an opinion, I like to ask strangers to explain why I feel the way I feel.
Why didn't Iron Giant just shoot the missle? I mean yeah he didn't want to be a gun but if he used it for good he could have shot it and lived
>>71858998
>I stay
>You go
>>71858998
>Superman
Who knew one word could reduce a grown man to tears
>>71858998
That scene gets me everytime.
>>71859067
He didn't want to be a gun.
>>71858857
Vin Diesels best role.
>>71858998
tears everytime
>>71859223
>Superman used to be an inspiration who could bring tears to men
>Served as the inspiration to one of the bets fictional characters of all time as he sacrificed himself to save a town from nuclear annihilation
>Superman today is grim, brooding, and basically as grimdark as fucking Batman
>He just scowls seriously, never smiles, and just snaps necks
that whole nuke scene is pure animated kino
>>71859223
It is better than all Disney movies (excluding some of Pixars best)
>>71858857
>scenes women will never understand
>>71859067
I think on some level, he knew he wouldn't be accepted by humanity because he was a walking weapon, and maybe he himself couldn't even live with the idea. So he chose to sacrifice himself like a hero would.
nothing happens: the movie
>>71859382
>I think on some level, he knew he wouldn't be accepted by humanity because he was a walking weapon, and maybe he himself couldn't even live with the idea. So he chose to sacrifice himself like a hero would.
That makes sense. The sacrifice shows more that he cared about humanity than his life
>>71859383
Shit: The post
>>71859223
there was a time when we all wanted a moment to be
super
man
>>71859067
This question is in every Iron Giant thread.
He didn't want to be a gun. Plain and simple. He grew to have Human emotions and was inspired by Superman. Superman never used guns and would sacrifice himself for the town.
>inb4 some obscure comic page of Superman using a gun
>>71858998
>You are who you choose to be
>>71859383
It's one of the best animated movies ever. And a good source of reaction images.
>>71859529
>>71859382
I understand that completely. I wish I could die heroically, it's probably the only way I could ever get anyone to accept me.
>>71859624
can I see your tits?
>>71859624
>>71859689
>accepted without getting yourself killed within 2 minutes
>>71858857
He wasa big guy.
>>71859990
Anda good friend.
>>71859007
>underrated post
Answer me this fucking question
What sent the giant and were they ever gonna come looking for him?
>>71858857
Great coming-of-age story.
Great 50's Cold War comfy vibe.
Actually funny.
Even though it could take the low-hanging fruit and get political, baiting liberal or conservative messages, it's simply a humanist film.
this thread made me look up the nuke scene and now I'm crying thanks guys, probably a combination of alcohol and intense nostalgia but still
>>71861388
Some alien empire as part of a war weapon I suppose. There really isn't a solid answer since who/what sent the giant isn't really relevant to the plot.
>>71861388
>>71861745
Probably this, or it was just supposed to parallel supermans story of being sent to another planet. Except in this case, I'd imagine it was more along the lines of Goku, and he was intended to take over / destroy it.
>>71858857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNWK_Y_ibcE
>>71858857
In my top twenty movies of all time. So good it hurts
>>71859067
It defeats the whole point of choosing to not be a weapon
Extended edition (needlessly) makes it a bit more obvious.
>>71861745
>>71862185
Deleted scene, he was part of an army whose job it was to destroy worlds. Brad Bird had every intent of putting the scene in because it gives even more impact to him discarding the purpose he was created for and choose to live his own life, but it was cut due to time constraints.
It has some really great aspects to it
>both the good and bad of the 50s, where people were wholesome and good, but at the same time the government was wracked with paranoid, dangerous people
>a beatnik that's an actual beatnik and not what people think beatniks are because of the stereotype from the 60s that made fun of them
>a classic superman story by someone that actually understands superman
>showing that the greatest danger is fear of the unknown, and that it's this that gives us many more dangers
Someone at Cartoon Network had a serious hardon for this movie considering they used to do 24 hour marathons of it during I think it was Thanksgiving.
>>71862215I was preparing to feel and you made me chuckle anon.
WHERE'S THE GIANT, MANSLY??
>>71859624
He didn't die though
>>71861388
That's part of the great mystery
And I'd like it to stay a mystery
>>71858918
This is actually very true. It's very smooth animation.
But to answer OP: because the story is top fucking notch.
"SCREW MY COUNTRY, I WANNA LIVE!"
What did Mansly mean by this?
>>71864106
He didn't know he was going to survive that though. Getting hit by a train is not the same as tanking an atomic missile.
>>71864198
That for all he talked about what he did being for "the good of the country and to fight communism" and all that jazz, the reality was he was a self-serving coward that only cared about his own advancement.
Why does Vin Diesel play roles where he barely talks?
>Riddick
>Iron Giant
>Groot
>>71864281
He talks quite a lot in Iron Giant though.
>>71858857
Ignoring the second half of the book was a good start.
>>71864198
He was a Nietzschean character. From the beginning you realise that his authority is important to him, he walks amongst these rustics confidant that he can assert himself as he wishes. As the film progresses he experiences the ineptitude of his superiors and the lack of respect his position actually receives. At the climax he realises that the authority given to you by a nation is merely a chain to be broken. When he mentions that he wants to live, he decides to abandon the affirmation of his arbitrary birthplace and to affirm himself and his abilities. Alas, the herd (represented by the ultimate slave, the Iron Giant) thwarts this free spirit's attempt at emancipation.
>>71864445
>>71864240
>the reality was he was a self-serving coward that only cared about his own advancement
doesnt everyone?
>>71860011However....
>>71864855
Most people don't try to nuke a town in the process
>>71865057
but, if you had the chance, would you capture it, or just let it slip?
HOG HUG?!
>>71865110
At that point even the general realized the giant wasn't a threat as long as you don't shoot at it.
Plus, the entire thing was built upon a lie Mansley told.
The biggest plot hole is where is Hogarths dad and why isn't he railing his mother 24/7
>>71865332
Implied he was a pilot who died in the Korean War.
>>71859067
THe entire time he's trying to convince himself and everyone else he is not a tool or a weapon, and so he willingly sacrifices himself
Because if he shoots it down then fuck, he just comes off as an even bigger threat and people will probably grow even more afraid of him
It's like choosing to disarm a situation non-violently, he jumped on the grenade rather than kick it back
>>71865332
In the book he's a farmer and initially thinks the Giant is an enemy.
But then in the book, the movie ends at the halfway point, and then in the second half a dragon from space comes to earth from hearing the sounds of our warmaking and wants to join in. Then the Giant decides to has to stop him and the book becomes Pacific Rim.
>>71862581
bro I think everyone that watched this movie had a hard-on for it
If I was in charge of timeslots for cartoon network or other children's programming I'd try and shove this movie in whenever possible. Increase exposure to true capekino before superhero movies poisoned the genre. Children are innocent and impressionable so why not give them something good to experience
>>71865169
>when Mansly said the giant had a kid and he was going to kill it or w/e
Holy fuck I never wanted to slap the shit out of a cartoon character more in my life
>>71865616
Worse, this is what happened
>You gotta listen me you. You have to tell the general, the giant's got the kid with him!
>....I'll take care of it
>He said the giant's killed a kid. Sir we must stop it, at all costs.
>>71865679
shit you're right
At that point Mansly was just being fucking spiteful/evil
Like there was no reason to exacerbate the situation, he was frightened and felt his authority/ability was questioned and at risk, and he decided to go full retard
God I hate people who power trip like that
>>71865771
Mansley represented the worst that game out of our government in the 50s: paranoid, power-hungry, spiteful
The general was the best: calm, put country before pride, assessed situations before going to war over them
>>71865861
It still baffles me that Mansley got off with totally subverting the general's authority and breaking chain of command repeatedly all because of some personal vendetta he'd accrued out of fear
Like shit, imagine how royally fucked he got when everything settled down and his superiors finally go to spin him on his ass
>>71865597
While I can't help but think that him punching the shit out of an evil alien kinda goes against the message, at the same time it IS what Superman would do.
>>71865894
Let's face it, he probably got the death penalty for it, life in prison at the least.
>>71865968
shit meant to reply to >>71865505
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>>71859314
>>71865894
Doesn't matter, as the whole planet will be fucked anyways when the rest of the alien invasion force arrives.
>>71864855
The General who is far more level headed and deescalates the situation the second he figures out the giant is only acting in self-defense. He was also only planning on using the nuke as an absolute last resort if they couldn't stop the giant any other way. Then when the nuke dose get lunched he doesn't attempt to flea and is willing to die in return for his part in lunching it.
>>71859067
Partially because he doesn't just want to be a weapon, but the other reason is because whenever he uses them he goes ballistic
>>71859529
>>71859597
Best character
>>71862215
You motherfucker
Moo
>>71859067
>>71859291
>>71859456
Although these seem like sound answers, I always thought it was because he couldn't consciously activate his weapons mode without becoming a literal killing machine. Kind of like activating a berserker rage, if he tried to shoot the missile he'd keep going and slaughter the townsfolk too
>>71858857
>has unlocked all of his weapons
>kamikaze the nuke instead
It was retarded
Top tier milf
>>71870521
>ywn wake up next to her every morning
>>71858857
What people don't realise is that this movie is actually based on a short story written in the 60's by the famous writer, Ted Hughes (Husband of Sylvia Plath). He said the book (and by extension the movie) was about two things.
1. The enlistment of young men into the military in times of war, making them monsters and killing machines against their will when they have no wishes to be killers or soldiers.
2. The importance of the father/son relationship. Hogarths father is non existent in the story, it's never explained what happened to him, he's just absent. The giant is a surrogate father for Hogarth, that's why their bond is so immediate, the giant is the father figure he never had.
So given this, it's pretty apparent why women seem to care very little for this movie, but grown men are moved to tears by it.
>>71870705
So its literally a movie women will never understand
>>71865332
There are 3 Meet'N'Fuck games for you out there that explore just that
>>71859314
>Superman used to be an inspiration to people
>Society needed a hero like Superman to help its sufferings
>Society today is shit, people have turned to shit who only talk bad about literally everyone
>Tfw society is now rather trying to downtalk and blame people for everything, rather than improving the world
>Tfw Superman has adjusted to this shitty society
Say what you want but that shit is pure poetry right there
>>71862215
>tfw I knew what was going to come right about the moment he started to fly
>tfw "you are who you choose to be"
>tfw I was waiting for the phrase to come
kek
>>71859067
>Iron Giant shoots at missile
>saves day
>"holy shit i guess sometimes it IS okay to be a gun"
>whole movie goes down the shitter because of confused morality
>>71870922
give link plz
>>71859223
My man, that scene destroyed me
>>71871513
Reminds me of when people blasted Superman Returns. Yeah the movie has legit problems, but people also thought it was too idealistic
