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old >>71737027
White Wolf edition
Azor Jon
FIRST FOR THE QUEEN
Which will come out first, Winds of Winter or Doors of Stone
Azor Cersei
R8 how butt mad you are when Dany and Asha rule the seven kingdoms as lesbian lovers
Anyone else like the concept of The Witcher but hate Geralt?
I could never get into it because I thought he was a gruff-voiced, silver-haired tool.
>>71740573
Winds... George is finished with it.
>>71740573
True Detective Season 3
At the end of season 8, Jon Snow will __________________________
>The Ghiscari unite for the first time in thousands of years
>Still lose
>>71740599
>believing the fat man's lies
>>71740624
>>71740624
Find Dany locked up in a cell and fuck her in the butt
>>71740640
>Ghiscari shits getting btfo
Best day of my life desu senpai.
>>71740644
You can call me Gurm, the Book-Killer. Has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
>>71740640
They didn't control Old Ghis.
>tfw no one checked my quads >>71739999
>>71740624
Sacrifice himself.
>>71740695
It's a ruin, it doesn't count.
>>71740710
Next season
>>71740719
It does. Plus they fuck their slaves.
>>71740710
CATELYYYN WHY DON'T YOU LOVE ME
>>71740624
>At the end of season 8, Jon Snow will finally have become a game of thrones
>>71740598
Once you get past the anime hair and overly gruff vidya game voice he becomes more likeable
>>71740522
Umf, that ass on Dani. Too bad Kelly C's body is a mess.
>>71740624
Marry Arya
>>71740598
The game is fun and well made but it suffers from hating the actual middle ages like Gurm does.
>>71740598
You could try reading the books?lol but look what board I'm on.
>>71740826
*Was
Emilia looks great now
First for academic integrity.
>>71740761
Because I know why they call you Littlefinger, and it's not because of your height.
>>71740928
Did she lose weight?
>>71740879
Wtf are you talking about?
>>71740624
At the end of season 8, Jon Snow will inherit his lost half-brother's dream of becoming the gay Emperor of Essos
Anyone got more of these?
>>71740940
Quite a bit
>>71740939
Aisha boze betrothal'sh off the table ash well.
>>71740936
>/got/ still churns out epik memes during off-season
>>71740983
pics?
>>71740939
little vale dicks
BIG STARK COCKS
>>71740976
This is still the best one
Can't wait till Jon smashes his cousin‘s ginger box and fills her to the brim with his bastard seed. Can't wait until Sophie shows her tits and ass next season. She'll probably toss out her no nudity clause once Dabid throw money at her.
>>71740936
Based
>>71741040
I've heard it said that nearly all the shrimp in the Seven Kingdoms comes from the Fingers, my lord. Now I know why.
Anyone else ever get blocked for a day or two on game of thrones wiki by the retarded mods?
>>71740644
wow, i bought all the books man
feel like a cuck
I NEED to fist Isaac
>>71741164
>game of thrones wiki
You deserve to be blocked.
>>71741088
Can't wait either, finally get some more ginger minge.
It's oedipus and elektra complex all in one., hot as FUCK
>>71741164
>wikifag
Get out.
There's nothing wrong with kinslaying. Goku did it in Dragonball, are you telling me Goku is cursed by both gods and men?
>>71741272
you could say in a way he is cursed
>>71741228
Fuck that shit. Girl power.
>DRINK DRINK DRINK no cock oops sorry bro haha ;)
>>71741228
Poor missing Vicky.
> ywn see Victarion creepy stare Danny
>>71741164
sad life you must be living
>>71740976
He didn't fuck her merely because he was loopy on opiates.
Robb's campaign had reached a standstill, he couldn't move from riverrun and his plan was to send Theon to his father and request support of the Ironborne fleet to attack the Lannister's home, without the Ironborne he could not move.
Then Robb just got the news that instead of the much needed support of the Ironborn Theon had betrayed him, the Ironborn attacked moat cailin blocking their retreat and breaking their supply lines and Theon personally attacked Winterfell took it for himself and killed his two brothers. Robb was devastated, and Jeyne comforted him in the only way she could.
>>71740976
>Jeyne Westerling, who has been sent to care for him
to care for him, riiight
>>71740939
You have no idea how long I've been waiting for somebody to make this joke.
>>71741343
...so basically she fucked him out of pity
>>71741372
Maybe they remodeled
>>71741372
I like the 2nd one better, but i think they're both really cool
>>71741343
what if it was a honeypot
what if Tywin planned the whole thing
>>71741450
Didn't she mean Lady Stanheart?
>>71741424
>>71741447
And even so, it's still not what it's supposed to look like.
>>71741450
I wish Olly got nailed by that arrow.
>>71741372
Second Eyrie is better. First one is too small and the mountains beneath doesn't match the view from the moondoor
I really don't understand why they couldn't even attempt at some accuracy to how Bloodraven was described in the books.
>>71741534
Because they needed to make him appear friendly
>The Others are not dead. They are strange, beautiful… think, oh… the Sidhe made of ice, something like that… a different sort of life… inhuman, elegant, dangerous
Yeah, they totally nailed that one too.
>>71741088
With 2 seasons at 7 seasons each, even if Jonsa happens I doubt we'll get the shocking sex scene that will make people question whether incest is right/wrong. They will show it like the Ramsay/Sansa marriage consummation at best.
>>71740598
The Witcher games never really dig too deep into Geralt's personality. He's actually a really great character in the books.
>>71741568
>he doesn't think Night King is beautiful
faggot
I honestly can't even remember what Riverrun looks like in the show.
>>71741534
I know. The way they seem to go for shock value a lot of the time, weirwood man and Jojen paste would have been 100 times more shocking than terminator vs wolverine.
>>71741568
Wights =/= Others you dip.
>>71741568
the Others not being an own race ruined them for me anyway
>>71740586
As long as there's a gratuitous sex scene I'm okay with it.
>>71741477
Is that how it looks in TWOIAF? I don't remember seeing it there.
>>71741636
Are you trying to say the draugr from Skyrim are exactly how you pictured the Others?
>>71741621
Isn't shaped like a boat in the books?
>>71741621
I knew my screencap obsession would be useful someday
>>71740586
not as mad if it were rickon and dickon desu senpai
>>71741621
Establishing shot
>>71741621
Like an actual castle
>>71741670
Yep. They used Ted Nasmith's art for TWOIAF.
>>71741687
Cheers!
Post the other major castles if you got them too.
>>71740522
Gods I hate you fart fags that post non show related pics for threads.
>>71741461
Tywin did plan the whole thing, but not like you would suspect. Jeyne was genuinely in love with Robb as opposed to the suspicions that were had by those around Robb.
Her mother gave her a ''fertility potion'' which seemingly didn't work after many attempts at a child. This is evident by Jaime's meeting with her which occurs more than 9 months after Robb Starks death in which she looks like a normal person.
So basically Jeyne's mother was giving her Moon Tea but told her it wasn't Moon Tea and she fell for it. This is probably because Jeyne was being saved for a future marriage that would disconnect herself from the North and Riverlands and thus give less power to the Westerlings heirs.
>>71740522
Will Sansa will be his Triss and Arya his Yennefer?
>>71741774
looks like shit
>>71741683
Yeah but fuckable.
>>71740761
I don't get this.
It feels like they're going to have Petyr be attracted to Sansa because she looks like her mom. But then why did he sell her off to the Boltons in the first place? I might be retarded, but the actions contradict each other unless he fell in love with her after the Boltons.
Reminder stannisbros are danybros now.
>>71741372
Who the fuck builds a fortress on top of there?
>>71741804
>He prefers this pile of shit
Kill yourself.
>>71741845
Why ask questions? D&D shat up the storyline. Say what you will about Germ, but his character's motivations are much more realistic than D&D fanfic.
>>71741851
I honestly can't understand how that was allowed to be part of TWOIAF.
The towers are literally copypasted from the LOTR film of Orthanc/Isengard.
The dragons are from Skyrim.
This is the laziest bullshit ever made.
>>71741731
I don't, unfortunately. Some day maybe.
>>71741882
No wonder it looks so out of place.
>>71741892
It's okay, anon, no problem.
I just wanted to compare them.
>>71741847
Always been my issue with the Eyrie, it may be impenetrable but it's so awkward to get to that it's pointless as a seat. How do you project power from the top of a mountain?
>>71741683
Nah, ice elves man, minus the ears.
>>71741713
Looks so small though. Winterfell is tiny as well.
>This is Winterfell's main gate
>>71741875
>Why ask questions?
I thought it might have been explained in the latest books.
>Say what you will about Germ
Germ gets a lot of hate for being fat and lazy, but I prefer his writing. The show went downhill in atmosphere and world-building after he became less influential.
>>71740624
become a transwoman
Is this an art thread?
Wish the Witcher autists would fuck off.Your cheap anime game (yes, the book is garbage too) will never reach a fraction of the depth of ASOIAF. Seeing how you get overly excited over a character sharing a similar nickname to your white-haired anime husbando is testament to your autist.
>>71741845
CIA thought he taught Sansa well enough, but she was too dumb. He wanted her to go all CIA on Ramsey and push him out the equivalent of the moon door to take control of winterfell so that he could swoop in with the Knights of the Vale, fuck up Rooseboi and consolidate her claim.
>>71741839
There's stories of White Walkers breeding with human women actually. I think that's what is happening to Craster's daughter-waifus.
>>71741971
Sure, why not? I'm just posting this stuff for no reason.
>>71740598
He's a lot better in the books.
>>71741972
asoiaf has no depth
>>71741985
Is this something from the show? Because the books say nothing of the sort.
>>71741985
I think you're just dreaming about getting an ice cold dicking, anon.
>>71741963
Anyone got a pic of show hightower?
>>71741882
George said it was his favorite depiction of dragon stone and came the closest to his vision.
He made first thing you see because it liked it so much.
>>71741845
He loves her, he just loves power and climbing the ladder more.
He sees her as a pawn to use and himself as a player, and he's not gonna stop that as long as she has use
>>71741751
oh right I totally forgot about this. haven't read the books in years
>tfw we will never have Margaery's walk of atonement
>>71741950
>I thought it might have been explained in the latest books.
Well we don't see anything from Petyr's POV so who knows why he does anything, but he could under no circumstance reveal Sansa (yet) even if he wanted to. Because she is wanted by the crown for regicide and they would hunt her and him down.
>>71742068
Goes to show his terrible taste, I suppose.
>>71742040
I think its one of Old Nans stories
pure rumour
>>71741929
>How do you project power from the top of a mountain?
by owning all the fertile land in the valley below
Besides, its not like there's another castle (the Gates of the Moon) right below it. Besides, its sort of a power projection in itself that anyone who wishes to treat with the Lord of the Eyrie has to climp up the mountain, making you realize how formidable of a castle it actually is.
>>71741846
That depends if Jon is legitimate or not we have no confirmation either way.
>>71741945
It looks really big for a medieval castle of a Vassal to the King, and not a particullary rich familly.
Pic related is the Louvre in around 1350
>/v/eddit OP
Nope
Fuck off
>>71742144
>if Jon is legitimate
what
>>71742187
Why does he ride the spider?
>>71742160
what is this ? A castle for ants ?
>>71742144
Jon can't be legitimate.
No matter what Targaryen/Rhaegar fanboys like to believe, polygamous marriage was only ever allowed/tolerated for Aegon the Conqueror. His own son, Maegor, tried to have more than 1 wife at a time and got exiled from Westeros for it.
>>71742044
See >>71742124
Many of Old Nan's stories actually seem to be correct actually. Although I doubt the show would include this- in the books the Others even have a language in which they mock the ranger Lord Royce for not being able to keep up in sword fighting.
Best Others design.
>>71741343
>He didn't fuck her merely because he was loopy on opiates.
In spite of it, more like it.
Opiates tend to fuck up your dick.
>>71742229
Why use diamonds for the shadowlands?
>>71742267
More duel art.
>>71742238
>>71742238
>>71742238
REAL THREAD WITH A GoT OP
ABANDON THIS /v/EDDITOR THREAD
>>71742278
That's Qarth.
>>71742306
Hope you get banned
>>71742278
It's supposed to be Qarth I think.
>>71742306
Fuck off and stop trying to get /got/ banned
>>71742204
>>71742240
A lot could have happened in that tower, Targaryens have practiced polygamy before, and three kingsguard were there, Kingsguard do not normally protect known bastards and lovers of the King they defend the King and the royal family. With both Aerys and Rhaegar dead they could well have been there defending their king.
There is a possibility "Jon Snow" is a legitimate son of a married Rhaegar and Lyanna with some Targaryen name.
>>71742257
looks like Robb was king in the south too
>>71742328
>>71742341
>make OPs with non-GoT related pictures
>expecting to not get banned
>>71742160
it was built by the same guy who built the wall though. it should be the biggest thing in westeros
>>71742154
Got any art on the other monuments of Westeros/Essos? The ones I can remember are the Titan, the road Tyrion travels on with Illiryo, the Wall, and Im forgetting the last one.
Was this the peak of GoT? Will they ever be able to top this finale?
>>71742367
>gets spergy and tries to cause thread wars during offseason
>not expecting to get /got/ banned
>>71742347
>There is a possibility "Jon Snow" is a legitimate son of a married Rhaegar and Lyanna with some Targaryen name.
Is it even possible to prove this?
>>71742233
The Others ride giant spiders and not horses in the books. I would've died out of fear if I was at Crasters Keep when The Others attacked with their spider cavalry.
>>71742405
Make threads with GoT OPs you faggot.
Quit forcing your video game garbage here.
>>71742347
>Targaryens have practiced polygamy before
Literally only once when they became rulers of Westeros.
And that was only for Aegon the Conqueror.
Literally no one tried it afterward.
Not even when they had dragons.
> Kingsguard do not normally protect known bastards and lovers of the King they defend the King and the royal family
That's a shitty reasoning.
The Kingsguard is sworn to obey and follow the King and his orders. Rhaegar was most definitely not king when the 3 KGs decided to fuck off with him on his adventure.
>With both Aerys and Rhaegar dead they could well have been there defending their king.
You don't seem to understand.
Viserys was next in line of succession.
Not Jon. Who wasn't even legitimate to start with.
Rhaegar and his butt-buddies may believe whatever they want, but literally no one other than lickspittles and close friends of Rhaegar would have acknowledged whatever farce of a ceremony they had as legitimate.
>>71742387
He didn't have a lot of material over
>>71742407
Howland can't prove it. Bran can't prove it.
Only the Septon that performed the marriage could give his testimony and that likely wouldn't convince anyone either.
>>71742367
Do you seriously think the mods are just waiting for the last straw
>>71742267
Seems like too much armor for Oberyn --- isn't he a light infantry kind of guy?
>>71742403
Yes.
By confirming Jon x Sansa.
Social media and regular media will talk about it for weeks and the ratings will be huge. Women will be backing D&D even more and they'll be forgiven for the Sansa rape.
>>71742347
nah, there's no way Rhaegar and Lyanna were legally married
a) polygamy had been outlawed in Westeros
b) he kidnapped a woman betrothed to another man
>>71742460
Bran can warg into them and make them understand
>>71742461
Yes
You're posting off topic images
Stop forcing /v/eddit faggotry
>>71742431
I didn't make the thread but I'll sooner defend it once it's gotten to 150+ comments, than support spergy autist threads
>>71742498
I haven't posted shit
>>71742526
The OP is /v/eddit faggotry
I want GoT spinoff - a sitcom with Tyrion, Varys and Littlefinger
>>71742546
Yes, and sperging about it 160 posts in isn't helping anything
>Owiie! Robby, that huurts!
>Ouws is the fuuwy...
>>71742425
If he fell off, would he die?
>>71742471
I don't think you understand. Targaryens don't play by the rules.
Aside from that, Jon went from bastard to king in da norf. His rise to power could give way to him being recognized under either house.
I'm not saying it will happen, but stranger things have happened.
>>71742434
>Literally only once
Therefore there is legal precedent. And this is a story where things that have no occured in thousands of years are happening and you're stuck up on something that only happened 300 years ago? I think you've really set yourself up for disappointment
>Viserys was next in line of succession.
No, Rhaegar was the heir, when he died it didn't magically pass over his heirs. Aegon, Rhaenys, and "Jon" if he is legitimate all come before Viserys.
Rhaegar's line would need to be extinguished entirely before Viserys is next in line.
Great thread you got there guys, thank god you got rid of those pesky regular posters ... oh wait
>>71742606
thats a big spider
>>71742602
Why was Aegon IV the only smart one.
sure he fucked up by giving away the sword and legitimizing his bastards, but he fucked a shitload of low and high born hotties like a King should
>>71742407
Bran, Skingchanging, Glass candles, magic.
>>71742626
>Targaryens don't play by the rules
you can't be fucking serious
this is a shit cop-out even by show standards
>>71742626
>Targaryens don't play by the rules.
Oh yes they do.
Look up Aegon the Unlikely, the little kid who squired with Duncan the Tall when he was a hedge knight.
He wanted to change a lot of shit in the Seven Kingdoms and realized he couldn't do shit without dragons to enforce his will because the LPs would have buttfucked him in an instant.
So you fanboying here and fantasizing about Targs being above literally the whole of Westeros is utter nonsense and not grounded in reality whatsoever.
For one, the Faith Militant would have risen much sooner if Rhaegar had tried to push that bullshit as legitimate.
Monogamy is something that has been part of Westeros tradition and culture for literally thousands of years, barring the Ironborn and Dornish shits with their salt-wives and paramours respectively.
>>71741845
>Petyr be attracted to Sansa because she looks like her mom.
My idea is, he uses her as leverage. He wants to be Warden of the North. Marrying Sansa will help a lot.
>But then why did he sell her off to the Boltons in the first place?
To start war between Vale and Boltons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxZjyqvAsvo
>>71742699
Literally the entire history of the Targ's reign over Westeros is them doing whatever the fuck they want. They were the ruling house.
>>71742666
>Targaryens don't play by the rules.
No. An allowance.
Aegon the Conqueror had his own son exiled once Maegor tried to have one more than one wife. So he clearly knew such a thing could never, ever happen after him.
>No, Rhaegar was the heir, when he died it didn't magically pass over his heirs. Aegon, Rhaenys, and "Jon" if he is legitimate all come before Viserys.
Rhaenys and Aegon were dead.
Jon is a bastard and thus not in line of succession.
>>71742706
>Oh yes they do.
Not that anon, but not really.
They continue fucking and marrying their sisters even when it's against the dominant faith in Westeros.
And even nobles don't always follow the rules.
Maegor was king BY RIGHTS, by all the laws of gods and men, and those fucking nobles skipped him anyway.
>>71742666
you're grasping at straws. your reasoning is so bad you should probably become a writer on the show
>>71742434
The reason the kingsguard were at the tower was because Raeghar thought he was going to win. He was going to win, end the rebellion, come back to pick Visenya and have Aerys legitimize her. So for all intends and purposes Artuh, Oswell and Gerold were protecting a royal baby.
>>71742706
>Faith Militant
I understand you're a wikifag but come on.
>>71742229
what are the chances of us seeing what happens in the far east of Essos ? The part with skull and bones is gurm's mordor apparently.
>>71742471
>a) polygamy had been outlawed in Westeros
While this is true for the average lords this was never made official for Targaryens after they converted to the seven there have been no other documented cases this is true but the matter was left undecided. If you read the worlds of ice and fire you'd know this.
>b) he kidnapped a woman betrothed to another man
She was betrothed but she wasn't wed and that marriage was unconsummated therefore it's not legally binding in any way. Betrothals and broken all the time.
>>71742740
>They were the ruling house
>were
exactly
>>71741477
Reminds me of Neuschwanstein Castle had it been finished.
>>71742750
He was not exiled by Aegon, he was exiled by Aeneys his weak shit brother.
>>71742750
>Rhaenys and Aegon were dead.
>Jon is a bastard and thus not in line of succession.
Unless he is legitimate which he very well could have been.
Aeyns exiled his brother for disobeying him and Aeyns is dead, Jaehaerys never codified this as law either way.
This is a very flimsy argument you're making.
>>71742706
>cherrypicking
Yes we know some Targs were noble and just.
You could cite a ton of examples of just Aerys II doing as he wants.
What about Aegon's grandbastards? They literally made a noble house out of illegitimate children. Do you really think Westeros would have rebelled against the crown just for the reason of Jon being legitimized into a Targ?
>>71742799
Rhaegar sure as fuck didn't have the blessing of the Starks
>muh Targs did whatever they wanted
except by the time Jon was born the Targs had been ousted. if Rhaegar had actually tried to marry Lyanna and wanted to legitimize Jon it sure as fuck wouldn't have been recognized by anyone.
>>71742769
>you're grasping at straws
Stop projecting.
>your reasoning is so bad
Where is your logic behind this, give your reasoning.
Just because you're losing the argument doesn't mean you have to give up and declare victory to save face. Think and use your words, give examples.
I don't think the commoners of Westeros even give a shit whether the King is legitimate now if he's a good guy
>>71742967
Nobody cares about the commoners
>>71742765
>They continue fucking and marrying their sisters even when it's against the dominant faith in Westeros.
And that's about the only allowance they had once their dragons were had.
Even so, it was fucking stupid.
Rather than binding the realms to the royal family, they just made inbred incest babies with each other.
>Maegor was king BY RIGHTS, by all the laws of gods and men, and those fucking nobles skipped him anyway.
Which one was that? Are we talking about the Cruel or that one kid that was barely mentioned and then gone from the pages of history?
>>71742782
Doesn't matter what might have been in the future.
Rhaegar was no king and they sure as fuck didn't get orders from Aerys to go and help him partake in the elopement with Lyanna Stark and then stay at the Tower of Joy while the rest of the realm waged war.
>>71742783
Even if that was true, which it wasn't, that's not an argument of any sort.
Facts are facts, regardless of the source.
>>71742845
I stand corrected, My bad.
>He had wed her in a Valyrian ceremony officiated by Queen Visenya for want of a septon willing to wed them. The public outcry was such that Aenys was finally forced to exile his brother.
>>71742888
No one would acknowledge it as legitimate.
That's it.
That's all there is.
>>71742919
You could still do that in regular times.
If a bastard showed himself of great worth, you could let him take on a new name. That's something far more infinitely easier than legitimizing a bastard with his father's family name in a post-Daemon Blackfyre Westeros.
>>71742503
which Blackfyre is this?
>>71742942
>losing the argument
fucking kek. your only argument is literally >muh Targs did whatever they wanted
except Rhaegar kidnapping and marrying Lyanna was against the law of the land, and the Targs weren't there to enforce their own law either, because guess what, they were all fucking killed (including Rhaegar himself).
>>71742805
And which house has Dragons now?
Think about it anon.
>>71742973
>You will rue the day you stole my broken sword!
>>71742999
Daemon m8
>>71742999
The very first one.
Daemon Blackfyre leading the charge at Redgrass Field.
>>71742999
Daemon I
>>71742967
>"The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends," Ser Jorah told her. "It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace." He gave a shrug. "They never are."
>>71742987
>Even if that was true, which it wasn't, that's not an argument of any sort.
>Facts are facts, regardless of the source
You must be really fucking retarded or autistic. I was talking about how the faith Militant DID NOT EXIST to do shit against Rhaegar. Again I'll call you a wikifag and hope no one responds to your shit.
>>71742987
>No one would acknowledge it as legitimate.
>
>That's it.
>
>That's all there is
I'm glad you're finally admitting you are wrong and out of arguments.
>>71742999
Bittersteel judging by the shield
>>71743016
none. why?
>>71743030
>>71743044
>Daemon and Maelys Blackfyre
that's some Lucas tier pottery in naming characters
Why did Jon even want to join the Night's Watch so much? life as a bastard wasn't bad at all. Was it just his emo phase?
>>71742987
>Rhaegar was no king and they sure as fuck didn't get orders from Aerys to go and help him partake in the elopement with Lyanna Stark and then stay at the Tower of Joy while the rest of the realm waged war.
How do you even know? The only one we know for sure stayed with Aerys through the war was Jaime. For all we know some nice day Raeghar went to the king and "Sup dad I be needing three kingsguard to protect on a side project on the north and in dorne." "Sure son take Arthur, Oswell and Gerold it's been pretty slowly around here anyway."
>>71743012
>except Rhaegar kidnapping and marrying Lyanna was against the law of the land
>and marrying Lyanna
Anon why are you trying to support my argument? I'm just saying it was possible not that it happened.
You're not very good at this.
>>71743081
The dragons are a literary device, I see it now.
Shame the show didn't get the memo.
>>71743100
Glory and honor and all that, and he didn't really know what else to do.
>>71742987
>If a bastard showed himself of great worth, you could let him take on a new name. That's something far more infinitely easier than legitimizing a bastard with his father's family name in a post-Daemon Blackfyre Westeros.
Ramsay Bolton. Literally no one made a peep about it.
>>71743055
Why are you so butthurt about facts, anon?
Faith Militant didn't exist, yes, we all know that.
But the fact is that the religious followers of the faith of the Seven would have rioted against it.
It would help speed up the creation/rebirth of the FM ahead of its canon-timeline.
>>71743061
You seem to be an absolutely insane Targaryen fanboy.
Which is fitting, I suppose.
Now, go pork your sister.
>>71743100
He was told a lot of shit, and was never really given the whole extent of what the members of the NW were like. Basically, he romanticized it all.
And he left Winterfell because Catelyn would have made his life hell once Ned was gone to KL.
>>71743102
>How do you even know?
Because Aerys distrusted Rhaegar, accused him of plotting against him and so on.
Aerys wouldn't loan him shit, let alone the very best of them.
>>71743012
Third party here, you're objectively losing.
Step it up.
>>71742425
>The Others ride giant spiders and not horses in the books
no they don't. read the books you tool.
Theres stories about Other spiders and a bit of foreshadowing but none have appeared.
>>71742987
>he hasn't read the books
such a brutal combination, starting with the show and becoming the worst wikifag I've ever seen
>>71743142
Tommen signed that decree and Roose had no wife or other children to serve as heir and had done Lannisters a huge favor.
Also, the rest of the realm gave no shite about the North.
>>71743100
AGoT Jon was angsty, jealous and arrogant.
He wanted to escape his bastard status and thought he would be the shit in the Night's Watch
>>71743100
well he never stood to inherit any land or title, so his only way to glory was to do something like that
>>71743160
Seek professional medical help, you're in dire need of it.
No, really. Your only 'defense', and I use the term loosely here, is deluding yourself into twisting the world into something it's not, so that you don't have to present an actually valid argument with which to debate.
>>71743174
It doesn't matter who signed it. You cited post-Daemon Blackfyre Westeros as the reason bastards couldn't take on their father's name without people making a fuss. Roose wasn't barren and was in a perfectly good position to have more children. The crown had already given him Winterfell and the warden title.
>>71743107
>this low energy baiting
not an argument fampai
>>71742987
>Rather than binding the realms to the royal family, they just made inbred incest babies with each other.
Yes, but they kept on doing it even thought it was wrong and technically against the law and the Faith.
>Which one was that? Are we talking about the Cruel or that one kid that was barely mentioned and then gone from the pages of history?
The one kid, Aerion's son.
Skipped over in succession when it was clear that he was the legitimate heir since he was a son of a second son while Maekar's firstborn son only left a daughter behind. And he got skipped.
Even though there were clear precedents for sons of second sons ascending when the firstborn left no males when they died.
skipped cause they didn't like his father, which is bullshit and not a basis in the law
>>71743196
This. Plus he couldn't go with Ned, and Catelyn was going to be a cunt, so Ned just let him go.
Benjen kept telling him wait until you know what you're losing before you join, but Jon was too busy trying to prove himself
>>71743100
Jon shared a similarity with Sansa- he believed in the singers and the stories that he grew up listening to. Of course his taste was different. He went there knowing that they are cool knights in black defending the realm and believed it seeing noble men such as Benjen, Royce join them. It was a shock for him when he found out how different it was in reality, and if he went back to Winterfell Cat would likely throw a fit, not to mention he'd be made fun of like Theon in the Iron Islands.
>>71743176
Also this
>>71743224
Yes, I cited that because you couldn't give a bastard son his father's family name without the king's say-so.
>Roose wasn't barren
He was fairly old if I recall. 40 year or such.
Sure, he could have sired a son, but Ramsay would have killed the boy, one way or another.
>>71743243
Yeah, I don't know what's with that particular Maegor. He just up and vanished.
GRRM fucked up on a lot of details.
>>71743143
>>It would help speed up the creation/rebirth of the FM ahead of its canon-timeline.
Potentially, again who is to say if they would have accepted it or not. Rhaegar was well loved by the people.
You seem like the type that takes his headcanon very seriously.
>You seem to be an absolutely insane Targaryen fanboy.
That's not an argument anon. If you've seriously got nothing left we're done here. I'm disappointed because I expect a more rational discussion from you before you turned shitposting ad hom.
>>71743246
>>71743196
>>71743176
I gotta say taking an eternally-binding oath to never have children, land or leave the Night's Watch at 14 is pretty fucking dumb even for a Stark.
>>71743147
>implying
the argument is that Jon can't be legitimate. it's not a question of whether Rhaegar married Lyanna or not, because either way the marriage wouldn't have been legitimate.
>>71742888
Except he can't be because Rhaegar was still married to Elia.
>>71743287
That's his Targ genes compelling him to make bad decisions
>>71740710
Are there any good verts to come out of this season?
>>71743320
Targ + Stark genes must be the worst combination for decision making
>>71743287
you said it, he was 14 and a Stark
>>71743322
There were but I didn't save any
>>71743280
Also Roose stated he'd rather have a crazed bastard than a child ruler.
And keep in mind, he had a perfect heir once who was killed by Ramsey, so Roose hates the shit, but it's too late to do anything.
>>71743286
>Rhaegar was well loved by the people.
Up to a point.
Eloping with another man's betrothed, regardless whether it was consensual on her part or not, and then actually thinking he could have her as one extra wife, was pure fucking madness.
>You seem like the type that takes his headcanon very seriously.
Nope. I'm very open to being corrected on any mistakes I make or assumptions I wrongly made. I just think it's stupid how people think Rhaegar would have been allowed to do as he liked without any consequences.
>That's not an argument anon.
Says the guy who's only line of reasoning is: "They're Targaryens, they could do as they like!"
>>71743345
is Targ+Stark worse than Tully+Stark?
>>71743287
He was made the Lord Commander's steward after completing his training, a highly prestigious position. So he took it. Its much higher than anything he could achieve south except for being a Kingsguard.
>>71743349
>Also Roose stated he'd rather have a crazed bastard than a child ruler.
He said that to Reek though, fully aware that Ramsay would hear every word of it.
Roose wanting to off Ramsay is pretty certain by the end of DwD
>>71743287
He was fed grade A bullshit about it his entire life. It was made out to be this honorable, defender of the realm position that everyone thanks you for. This is partially Benjen's fault, who could have told him how shit the training and life in general there was.
Men signed up to be crusaders en masse back in the day, and the job description wasn't that much different from the NW either.
>>71743349
Roose Bolton is a shit of a man, but what a great character to read about.
>Tell me, my lord ... if the kinslayer is accursed, what is a father to do when one son slays another?
>>71743383
No. Robb and Sansa would have been perfect in their roles, with Robb being LPark and probably married by that time, and Sansa being a wife who gets railed every night.
>>71743280
this moved so far away from my original argument that I don't really see how it still relates at all anymore, but thanks guy, thanks for posting general knowledge
>>71743383
That's a tough one. If Jon and Sansa had kids imagine how retarded they would be.
>>71743390
>He was made the Lord Commander's steward after completing his training, a highly prestigious position. So he took it
Yeah he didn't know that when he took his vows.
>>71743422
GETTUHSUM WHOATAH
>>71743383
Tully+Stark are naive idiots while Targ+Stark are crazy idiots
>>71743410
>>71743404
He says that to him too, though.
>>71743466
What about Lannister+Targ?
>>71743453
>>71743466
>Jonsa have kids
>crazy naive idiots
the idiot plot potential, jesus christ
>>71743460
>the handsome powerful lord with legendary prowess and charm and the dreamy beautiful artistic heir to the largest empire in the known world fought each other over that
>>71743460
He did in the books at least. There's a time period after training completion where volunteers are given the final choice to quit after being drafted to either the builders, stewars or rangers. Jon was almost turned off by knowing he was in the stewards- it took Sam explaining he was in the LC's steward- who are generally chosen because they have a ton of potential that he finally decided to take his bows.
>>71743143
>Aerys wouldn't loan him shit, let alone the very best of them.
Yet the fact remain that they were not at King's Landing and at the Tower of Joy. Let's take a closer look at the fate of the kingsguard:
Ser Gerold Hightower: died at the toj
Ser Lewyn Martell: died at the Trident
Ser Barristan Selmy: died at the trident
Ser Oswell Whent: died at the toj
Ser Arthur Dayne: died at the toj
Ser Jonothor Darry: died at the trident
Ser Jaime Lannister: stayed in KL
Oh when we look at it half of the kingsguard went to fight at the trident, and we know Jaime was also supposed to go but Raeghar gave him express orders to stay. So it's possible they were all supposed to go and help Raeghar at the trident, but the prince sent three of them to protect Lyanna while he was away instead of taking them with him to battle.
>>71743504
>What about Lannister+Targ?
absolute mad men
>>71743544
Ser Barristan Selmy: fought* at the trident
>>71743522
>Robert's rebellion is literally twilight fanfic
>>71743544
selmy didnt die
>>71743499
Who are we supposed to sympathize with here?
>>71740598
I agree. He's not horrible, but getting to create your own Witcher would be much better in such an open ended game.
>>71743295
>Except he can't be because Rhaegar was still married to Elia.
Thus why we're discussing the possibility of Targaryen polygamy, Aegon wed both his sisters and had legal heir by them.
Polygamy had not been practiced since but it was no official law passed or decree made that prevented Targaryens from practicing it. Kinda like the two term limit before the 22nd, FDR was elected to four terms even though the two term limit had been a unwritten rule people had stuck to for more than a hundred year.
Maegor attempted it against the wishes of his brother and was exiled for his disobedience. Aeyns was then killed an Maegor took over and again never made a law legalizing it. The practice itself was not banned or legalized by Aenys or Jaehaerys after him. Polygamy currently as far as we know is a legal grey area for Targaryens it was practiced in the passed and has not been practiced for 300 years since then, however that doesn't mean it is illegal just like how the others not showing up in a thousand year doesn't mean they're gone.
>>71743611
Whoever you think is right
Which is Sansa
>>71740879
>depicting the middle ages in a more authentic manner means they hate it
lol retard you're probably the one who thinks eveyrone was a knight and battles consisted of 10000 dudes doing 1v1 fights with shiny armors and swords
>>71743611
The characters are grey and morally ambiguous you pleb.
>>71743357
>>Says the guy who's only line of reasoning is: "They're Targaryens, they could do as they like!"
That's not the argument that's a strawman that you yourself came up with because you don't like my argument.
>>71743629
>Polygamy currently as far as we know is a legal grey area for Targaryens
except no one would recognize Rhaegar's second marriage
>>71743453
>>71743515
But couldn't Targ coin flip make the kids great and offset the retardness that is the Tully gene?
>>71743611
Stannis
As someone who has studied Inheritance Law to a pretty high academic level, I can tell you Jon has mommy issues.
>>71743695
Targ craziness compounded by Tully and Stark idiocy doesn't sound like something that would improve the odds tbqh
>>71743695
Which prominent Targ was 100% sane?
>>71743710
We know
>>71743710
I'd have issues too if that gargoyle was my mother
>>71743729
Aegon
>>71743679
Martells wouldn't, not without throwing a hissy fit anyway.. Starks and, depending on how much the other Houses are trying to alienate themselves from the Lannister-Baratheons would.
>>71743729
Aegon I,
Jaehaerys I
Baelor the kinslayed (fuck you Maekar)
>>71743761
>had 2 wives at the same time, both of them his sisters
>sane
doubt.jpeg
>>71743752
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>71743679
>except no one would recognize Rhaegar's second marriage
Rhaegar was well liked and was still well liked by many who were alive to know him.
Robert's victory didn't change this and many character remember him fondly. We cannot say with certainty just how the realm would have reacted to Rhaegar's second marriage.
Would the faith have risen up in revolt against him? Maybe, but they're cool with dragon incest.
Would the people have hated him? Maybe, but many fought for the Dragon and 'the people up crackclaw way are all still good Dragon men'. It's hard to predict let alone say with certainty how people would react.
>>71743761
Aegon's dragon bullshit is only forgiven because he won
>>71743723
But would they really be any worse?
It'd be better for others to be honest, crazy targ madness Tully/Starks die out quicker, Targ greatness Tully/Starks survive, survival of the fittest.
>>71743738
Who makes these? These seem like an amusing read.
>>71743772
Whoopsie!
>>71743817
DO NOT MIGRATE THAT THREAD HAS BEEN CORRUPTED
>>71743767
>Starks
>depending
top kek, they were in open rebellion because of it
>>71743808
>would've/could've
I'm talking about how it actually went down. half the realm rose up in rebellion and killed the royal family, so no, it wouldn't have been recognized.
>>71743629
Polygamy is not recognized by the faith of the seven.
>>71743792
I'm talking about Young Griff.
>>71743914
It is when you have dragons
>>71743835
Found it
http://quite-quirksome.tumblr.com/post/146542394634/i-am-shipping-trash
Doesn't seem like they do it regularly or much at all
>>71743989
Thanks anon.
>>71743629
Still though, Secret second marriage is almost as much a shit tier excuse as "I died but came back to life. I didn't desert I fulfilled my vows".
No one would believe that shit.
>>71744031
I see what you did there
>>71744031
These watchmen are crazy
>>71743892
>would've/could've
>I'm talking about how it actually went down. half the realm rose up in rebellion and killed the royal family, so no, it wouldn't have been recognized.
Well no, you were talking about what would've and could've happened if a marriage between them was made public. No such event ever occurred.
But to your point they didn't rise in revolt because he stole her, Robert and Rickard were upset but the Starks and the Baratheons didn't rise in revolt because of it. Rickard traveled south to take the case to the King, he didn't bring an army he was going to bring the case to the king and have it settled peacefully.
The revolt stated when Aerys murdered the lord Rickard Stark and his son Brandon Stark and ordered Jon Arryn to murder Robert and Ned who were his wards.
It was Jon Arryn who started the rebellion for this outrage, not because Rhaegar wanted to get his dick wet in wolf pussy. The only person who were upset by her abduction were her father who just lost an alliance and Robert Baratheon the man she was betrothed to.
>>71743914
Nor is incest.
>>71744258
>Rhaegar kidnaps Lyanna
>Starks go to Aerys and demand Rhaegar to get his ass over there to answer for his bullshit
>Aerys goes full retard
>rebellion happens
no, it looks like Lyanna's kidnapping was very much the starting event
>>71744372
It was a precipitating event, not the start.
The start of the rebellion was the murder of Rickard and Brandon and the King's demand that Jon Arryn murder Ned and Robert.
The rebellion was against Aerys' Madness not Rhaegar's abduction of Lyanna, if it had been Rhaegar's abduction of Lyanna Rickard would have brought an army with him south to demand by force that Rhaegar return his daughter.
>>71744536
Didn't they demand that Rheagar be beheaded though?
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