So, Sulu is gay now.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_trek/actor-john-cho-reveals-intriguing-detail-about-sulu-in-a143240
>>71738702
Sulu might have came out in this universe and not the other because of the split in the timeline.
:3 he was gay before
>yfw homosexuals say they won't ruin beloved characters
>>71738734
>Sulu
>beloved
>>71738702
Pretty sure Sulu has always been gay.
>>71738702
>oh my
you just heard that in geroge takais voice didnt you
>>71738702
thats why hes so good at backing the ship up
This is an outrage! Why Sulu?
>>71738702
OH LOOK JJ ABRAMS FAGGING SHIT UP, FOR A CHANGE
CHEKOV IS SPINNING UNDER HIS JEEP
>>71738900
>jj abrams
So Spock is super sexual and Sulu is gay. What about some trek? Not greys anatomy drama
Sulu never was with a woman in the show or movies. When he tried to stab Kirk with a sword it was obviously a metaphor.
>>71738976
Not to mention you see kirk actually fucking a bitch instead of just running a game.
I always thought kirk was gay.
>>71738976
>Spock
>Super-sexual
A smooch here and there isn't super-sexual, bro.
If you watch the original series it's pretty much a given, they just never said it.
>trying to exploit gay people
Classic Hollywood.
>>71738702
So Sulu and Spock are gay now, WE FULL GAYZ NOW GUISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
>>71738702
hasn't he always been gay anyways?
c'mon people it's the current year, coming out of the closet isn't even close to edgy anymore
>>71739056
>gay
>people
>>71738702
Yeah. great "news" Slowpoke
>>71739034
It is compared to what the average /tv/ poster gets.
>>71739146
Stop giving them an excuse moron
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vwVAE0H.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
>>71739075
>sulu gay, actor isn't
>spock not gay, actor is
sulu was always gay tho tbqh
>>71738702
I'd prefer ladyboy Sulu
>>71739034
By Vulcan standards, he might as well be a nymphomaniac.
>>71738702
Sulu was always gay, it just took them fifty years to actually say it. But, then again, it took George Takei nearly seventy to come out publicly himself, so there's that.
>>71739132
Coming out was never about being "edgy".
>>71739289
Spock is only half-Vulcan, though.
>>71739250
I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING I COULD HAVE NEVER IMAGINED SAYING:
BOOSIE BADAZZ IS RIGHT
>>71739289
>Coming out was never about being "edgy".
oh boy
>>71739289
>Coming out was never about being "edgy"
maybe not personally for the fag that wants to come out, but certainly yes for the entertainment industry
Was he not always gay?
But this doesn't feel like a pandering quota or trying to score good boy points or teaching the plebs about tolerance. Just a homage to the original actor.
A genuine case of "amongst these people, this one happened to be gay" which feels as real as real life's group.
This isn't on the same level as blacked out characters or some new genderfluid teaching moment of the week.
>>71739447
what if they have a scene where sulu keeps referring to his partner and how he can't wait for shore leave so he can go suck him off and have him fuck him in his boipucci?
>>71738702
Why he didn't do kung fu during action sequences?
>>71738702
Once again proving feminist and LGBTWTF can't write for shit and have to resort to changing already beloved classics.
>>71738702
Didn't he have a daughter with a woman in the orignal timeline?
Did the Romulans going back in time somehow make him gay?
>>71739589
>changing classics
>changing sulu
he's not straight in the new star trek anon.
>>71738702
>implying Sulu wasn't always gay
Y'all forreal?
Who gives a shit?
>>71739589
>Sulu being gay is something new
>Star Trek portraying "progressive" stuff is something new
Some people just want to be triggered
>>71738941
Don't fuckin pretend he has no influence on this.
the whole point of star wars right from the beginning was to push a progressive agenda
nothing wrong with this
>>71738702
>“I liked the approach, which was not to make a big thing out it, which is where I hope we are going as a species, to not politicise one’s personal orientations.”
Then why are you using it to promote your movie?
>>71738702
>now
>now
hahaha
>>71739665
>Sulu being gay is something new
Yes? Have you watched Star Trek? Or read the article?
>>71739709
tbqh, he was probably asked about it and he gave an answer.
George Takei is such a flaming homosexual that this is basically a homage. I wouldn't really see this as a 'big change for the sake of publicity'. Hell, if anything, this is accurate.
>>71739740
did you live in a different dimension or something?
>>71739812
Where in Star Trek is Sulu even hinted to be gay?
>>71739740
How much did you think about who sulu dated before they changed his sexuality? Did you ever think about it?
>>71739613
Original time line? You're really eating this horseshit all up, aren't ya?
>>71739613
Everyone knows time travel makes you gay Anon.
IF ANY OF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS GIVE HIM SHIT ABOUT IT, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND FUCK YOUR SHIT UP
>>71739842
Was it hinted that he is hetero? The actor is absolutely fabulous and very open about it
>now
>>71738998
Kirk is bi-curious
>>71739892
>Was it hinted that he is hetero?
He had a daughter. Why the hell would you assume that she was adopted?
>The actor is absolutely fabulous and very open about it
Is this relevant?
>mfw /pol/ is trying to stir up shit about this but it turns out most of /tv/ is just ok with it
>>71739863
How did they even explain that?
They literally say in the comic 'future you is straight', but then act like the past version is 100% homo.
>>71738702
what you idiot, when was he ever not gay
>>71739995
>He had a daughter. Why the hell would you assume that she was adopted?
why would you assume she wasn't? Did they ever mention a mother? Why wouldn't you assume she was a clone?
>>71738702
wtf? i hate harold & kumar now
>>71739995
Why would you assume she isnt?
Him being gay is fine. It being newsworthy is not. Unless there's a DP BLACKED scene, it doesn't fuckin matter.
>>71738702
>now
>>71740151
Because the majority of children is not adopted?
I'm a dude and I want toFUCKChris pine!
>>71738702
It's a nod to takei. That's awesome.
>>71740194
Except children of gay people
>>71740134
Because I'm not doing mental gymnastics to try to preserve "muh headcanon"?
>>71740134
They cloned Sulu and made a female clone?
>>71740228
gay people are also a minority
It's Star Trek, who gives a shit? It's not like they're fucking rewriting the bible to make John gay, it's a fucking corny sci fi show
>>71740236
sounds like you are.
>>71738702
>Sulu is gay now.
>now
LOL
dude was gayer than gay even back in the original series, mate
>>71740258
gay people do weird things. That doesn't change in the future.
>>71740236
You seem to be the only one itt, that thinks sulu being gay is surprising or changes anything about the character
>>71740266
John was always gay, they don't need to rewrite
>>71740262
Yeah, and we all know how much the Starfleet discriminates minorities. There is no way they would have a gay guy on one of their ships, right?
>>71740075
Teen Bobby told older Bobby he was coming out, so Older Bobby reveals he has been pretending to be straight because he didn't want to be discriminated against and said he thought he might just stop being gay.
Yes the X-MAN/MUTANT who has lived and worked with multiple gay people who were excepted by his entire social circle was scared to be gay.
He lead on multiple woman and somehow managed to hide his gayness from dozens of telepaths until he was dragged out of the closet by time travel.
>>71740370
Bravo marvel
Whatever, anyway, its not like anyone actually gives a shit about iceman
If anything they will have like one line vaguely referring to this.
>>71740175
Seconding.
You'd think that the entertainment industry would finally get over the 'shock' of someone being gay by now, but mainstream hollywood moves at a glacial pace compared to the rest of the world.
Sure, 20+ years ago being gay was a scandal that actors tried desperately to hide, but anymore, outside of the deep bible thumping south and Uganda, literally no one cares if you're gay.
Its mainstream, boring, and going out of your way to point out that you are is pretty much just an offensive cry for attention anymore.
>>71738702
Just another way for the Jews to make us Asian males non-sexual or in this case into literal faggots. Why not just have him be a quiet monk who vows never to use his tiny Asian pee pee on a girl like every other Asian male character? I'm so sick of this shit
ah well, I probably wasn't going to see this anyway. sure as hell not now
>>71738730
No he wasn't you limp wristed poz faggot, he literally had a daughter
>>71740267
>>71740292
It's mental gymnastics to assume that when someone has a child it's their biological child?
Jesus Christ, do you live in San Francisco?
None of you have offered any hints that was gay aside from "he didn't wear a shirt one time".
>>71740134
>why would you assume she wasn't?
gee, who knows?
>>71740410
Sadly I did. Not anymore.
On topic the Sulu thing doesn't really bother me, the reboot feels different enough from the original it's easier to separate the two, and in the reboot Sulu never showed any interest in girls.
Feels more like an alternate reality than a retcon to the existing canon (Even if it's technically not supposed to be).
>>71740058
>being the only person in the thread to mention /pol/
good job
>>71740453
What? I dont have a clue what you are on about. If anything they are sometimes portrayed as perverts
>>71740549
>tfw you can't tell if its a woman or a man
Usually this doesn't bother me, but I really need to know here
>>71740453
I love how Asians get lumped into the "cis white male patriarchy" in Hollywood.
>>71740355
It's possible, not probable
>>71738702
No sweat. If it's actually not treated as a "big deal", I'm totally okay with that. I mean, the point is: If you want true equality, just don't make a fuss about it. About anything, really. about whether it's a man, woman, straight, gay, bi, trans – portray them as normal people and no one will bother... except fucks, of course.
>>71740516
it's mental gymnastics to try and force and image that YOU had that was never exactly established.
Sulu had a daughter. Ok, fine. That doesn't mean he wasn't gay. A lot of gay people have biological kids.
>>71740619
>About anything, really. about whether it's a man, woman, straight, gay, bi, trans – portray them as normal people and no one will bother... except fucks, of course.
Go back to /co/ concern troll
>>71740629
>it's mental gymnastics to try and force and image that YOU had that was never exactly established.
That sounds exactly like what you are doing right now.
95% of the population is straight. If you assume that a character with a daughter is gay for no reason, than you're retarded.
>>71738834
Sulu the actor can make with his life in his privacy what he wants. Sulu the character on the other hand is not gay.
More SJW pandering
>>71740516
The actor is famously gay and the show never gave concrete indications about his sexuality.
It is also funny you mention San Francisco.
>>71740687
>That sounds exactly like what you are doing right now.
it's not. I don't care if he is/was gay or straight. They want to say he's gay now? Ok, fine.
>>71740604
so fucking what?
>>71740700
>The actor is famously gay and the show never gave concrete indications about his sexuality.
Yes it did. It gave him a daughter. The actor is gay, that has no bearing on the character
>It is also funny you mention San Francisco.
Yes, Starfleet Academy, literally the most prestigious institution on Earth and probably the federation, will have a higher proportion of fags because it is based in San Francisco. At a time when transporters exist.
Are you trolling or really this thick?
>>71740687
it was never mentioned that sulu was straight so how exactly are they changing him? Because he had a daughter and you assumed he was straight doesn't mean he's straight.
>>71740453
Jews fear the samurai
>>71740697
>More SJW pandering
It's fucking Star Trek. Are you retarded? They always "pushed new grounds". Just fuck off you triggered cunt
This thread is why having a fag board was such a bad idea. it gives them a home base to spill over onto the rest of the site. It doesn't act as a containment board, it just encourages more poz faggots to come here
>>71740752
>Yes it did. It gave him a daughter.
again, this is not a concrete indicator that he's straight. You're just assuming he is.
>>71740752
>gay people cant have daughters
>I was implying the acadamy is full of fags
This just proves what I said in my first post. Some people just want to be triggered. He is fucking gay. Deal with it. I'm sure there wont be a buttsex scene, so please chill
>>71740752
>Captain Hikaru Sulu was a male Human Starfleet officer in the 23rd century. He was born in San Francisco, California, USA, Earth.
lol, I didn't expect anything when I googled that. He's getting gayer the more you know about him.
>>71740773
>Just fuck off you triggered cunt
DAE le anti-SJWs are just like SJWs? You're the one frothing and foaming you utter sperg
>It's fucking Star Trek. Are you retarded? They always "pushed new grounds"
By constantly reaffirming the superiority of European humanitarian principles and western culture?
Do you not realise that the Klingons are literally based on niggers, Vulcans are East Asians, Ferengi are jews and humans are white Western Europeans?
>>71740801
>again, this is not a concrete indicator that he's straight. You're just assuming he is.
Yes it is you literal retard
>>71738702
kek, r/asianmasculinity on suicide watch
>>71738702
Why is Captain Kirk still white though? It's 2016. He should be black.
>>71740872
>Yes it is you literal retard
can gay people have children? even biological children? yes. It literally isn't a concrete indicator.
Seriously, there seems to be a lot of unironic feminists and their bootlickers in this thread. Why don't you go after the most toxic culture of all, i.e. black culture? Why don't you try to feminize them? Why are they immune to it? Why do you constantly make excuses for them?
>>71740733
>>71740764
>Moving the goalposts
You literally said that Sulu was gay in the original series. You headcanon fags are pathetic.
>>71740872
Wow, nice points. You totally didnt just outed yourself as an utter moron who just wants to get triggered over fucking Star Trek
>>71740959
>can gay people have children? even biological children? yes.
What percentage of the population do you think are the product of a gay man? I bet it's less than 1%, in which case Sulu having a daughter indicates a 99% probability that he is straight
inb4 chekov's new actor is black
>>71740987
TRIGGERED
>>71740997
not an argument.
Daily reminder homosexuality is a mental illness, and it should be treated as such.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1329726/Gays-have-mental-illness-and-can-be-cured-says-doctor.html
Instead of sucking dick, get treated faggots.
>>71740480
gay people have children, and often.
I know we like to get angry over SJW shit here but it's true.
Lots of gay men literally go through the motions of living their life straight while in the closet and only abandon the guise when they have a midlife crisis.
A gay man can get hard and put it in a pussy just like you could get hard and put it in a man's ass.
You don't want to, but you could.
>>71740999
What part about "concrete indicator" goes beyond your understanding?
>>71740955
Chris Pine is jewish not white
>>71741024
Why should I make one? against what? All you did was triggered name calling
>>71738702
inb4 he actually says "oh myyy" in the movie to pander to the memes
you heard it here first
>>71741033
even if it is a mental illness who cares, it's not hurting anyone
>>71740987
>You literally said that Sulu was gay in the original series.
I, me, literally did not.
>>71741033
careful, you might tip a few of these creatures in this thread over the edge
>>71741053
you're literally arguing from the same page as the SJW bootlickers who got angry there were no niggers in Frozen even though there were a few token black people in Europe in medieval Europe. The absolute state of you
>I know we like to get angry over SJW shit here but it's true.
concern trolling won't get you anywhere
>>71741098
Not an argument
>>71741142
not an argument
>>71740999
you don't know anything about statistics. It doesn't work that way. You should probably stop posting.
>>71741159
>>71741166
Not an argument
>>71741142
>you're literally arguing from the same page as the SJW bootlickers who got angry there were no niggers in Frozen even though there were a few token black people in Europe in medieval Europe. The absolute state of you
but it's true, faggots often time have have a family and then ruin their lives when they come out.
This isn't being a SJW, I'm just stating "but he had a child in the original" isn't airtight as an argument.
>>71741142
How triggered are you exactly?
There is a gay character in Star Trek and people dont mind. Wow, this is clearly the downfall of western civilisation and everybody is a sjw-cuck. There are no nuances to anything
>>71741232
he's gonna reply that it's not that there's a gay character but that they changed sulu's character, which technically they haven't actually because it was never indicated that old sulu was straight. He'll say he was because he had a daughter but he's too retarded to understand that that doesn't prove he was straight, just that he had a daughter.
Movie leak when?
>>71740697
>>71740872
>>71741053
>>71741142
>>71741193
>>71741232
You all seem confused. Sulu's sexuality has nothing to do with Serious Joke Wizards.
>>71741053
Why the hell would this happen in the progressive utopia of Star Trek?
>>71741327
he's not saying it would, he's just stating this actually happens now. He's just saying it's not absurd that a gay man has a biological daughter. That it's not a "concrete indicator" of his sexuality.
>>71738702
>hardgay character Sulu, previously played by a hardgay actor, is also hardgay in the new continuity
stop the presses
>>71741270
Him having a daughter was an indication that he's straight.
Do you think that when they made Star Trek Generations the audience was supposed to assume anything other than that Sulu impregnated a woman? I'm sure even Takei himself has said Sulu was straight before.
Hell, the daughter's mother was even in some book.
You're advocating that the more unlikely situation is true over the obvious one because it agrees with your feelings.
>>71739173
Do you think Spock and Sulu had sword fights?
This is literally only happening to make headlines so people will watch this trash movie. If you people watched some real cinema and not fake neo-hollywood cinema you wouldn't have to put up with this shit.
>>71738702
Did gays not get the memo that they're no longer a persecuted minority in the west?
>>71739485
Reportedly he does have a scene with his partner and possibly adopted son but Cho's said it's presented as no big deal.
So of course /tv/ will still freak the fuck out about it
>>71741483
does chekov have any kids? quick google search didn't bring up anything. So he's gay, right? concrete indicator that he's a confirmed bachelor.
>You're advocating that the more unlikely situation is true over the obvious one because it agrees with your feelings.
no, I'm saying that neither is true until specifically stated so. Again, for the last time, him having a daughter isn't 100% evidence that he's not gay.
>>71740741
It ruins immersion...in a series where almost all aliens look like humans with different hats on
>>71738893
Why do people like this guy?
>>71741688
he's pretty funny on howard stern tbqh
>>71741653
>does chekov have any kids? quick google search didn't bring up anything. So he's gay, right?
No, because on the balance of probabilities there are more straight men without kids than gay men
>>71741653
>Again, for the last time, him having a daughter isn't 100% evidence that he's not gay.
It is evidence he isn't gay. It's very good evidence he isn't. Why is this so difficult to get into that airhead of yours?
>>71741066
So was/is Shatner.
>>71741653
>does chekov have any kids? quick google search didn't bring up anything. So he's gay, right? concrete indicator that he's a confirmed bachelor.
I'm beginning to think you may have low intelligence.
>>71741630
they never were. they have always had the exact same set of rights at normal people
>>71741780
>It is evidence he isn't gay. It's very good evidence he isn't. Why is this so difficult to get into that airhead of yours?
because it's not, only to you. It's evidence that he has a kid. You can't even say it's evidence that he had sex with a woman. It increases the probability that he had sex with a woman, but that's it.
>>71741793
you have got to be a complete retard if that's the conclusion you came to from reading that.
>>71741808
>there are people who are actually this thick in the world
>>71741855
you're the same buddy. I don't even care about sulu's sexuality like you do. I'm just pointing out the obvious that having a kid doesn't mean you're straight.
![96408c76012bf4c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Fc9mBg8.jpg "96408c76012bf4c[1].jpg")
>>71741780
don't mind me, just a straight man and his son
>>71741895
> I don't even care about sulu's sexuality like you do.
Yes you do
>I'm just pointing out the obvious that having a kid doesn't mean you're straight.
No you aren't. You are saying it is not evidence he is straight. You're either a literal retard or a good troll. Honestly it's an indictment on left wingers that we can't tell the difference between the two these days
![neil-patrick-harris-600x450[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PcQBOa1.jpg "neil-patrick-harris-600x450[1].jpg")
>>71741966
don't mind us, just two heterosexual best friends with our biological children
>>71741852
You are terrible at making arguments.
>>71741966
>>I'm just pointing out the obvious that having a kid doesn't mean you're straight.
>No you aren't. You are saying it is not evidence he is straight.
I think it's really cute that you're calling me a retard
>>71741895
>I don't even care about sulu's sexuality like you do.
How long have you been arguing now?
>>71742015
>The girl is happy, the boy is trying his hardest not to cry
What did they mean by this?
>>71742024
so you are a complete retard, got it. Thanks for the (You).
>>71742051
>because it's not, only to you. It's evidence that he has a kid. You can't even say it's evidence that he had sex with a woman. It increases the probability that he had sex with a woman, but that's it.
dude, just give up. you're embarrassing yourself now
>>71742057
arguing about one stupid point: having a kid doesn't make you straight. How is that me caring about sulu's sexuality?
>>71740480
>What is a surrogate mother?
>>71742102
>>>I'm just pointing out the obvious that having a kid doesn't mean you're straight.
>>No you aren't. You are saying it is not evidence he is straight.
at least I don't point out I'm a brain dead retard in my own posts. What exactly are you trying to prove by quoting me?
>>71742123
>arguing about one stupid point: having a kid doesn't make you straight.
No one has ever said this. We have said it substantially increases the probability a given person is straight. You have quite literally claimed it isn't evidence at all. Now you're literally googling for "gay men with children" as an attempt to demonstrate that one gay man with a child suddenly nullifies the above.
Honestly if this were any other thread I would say you're a troll, but I've experienced the mental gymnastics SJWs go through before so here I can't be sure either way
>>71738702
>gay
>not a lesbian trapped in a man's body, but still prefers to be a man
DROPPED
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>>71742156
that you literally said Sulu having a child isn't evidence he is straight. That is what you literally said. In that post I literally quoted
>>71742015
I don't think being raised by gay men would be that bad for a kid, however being raised by dykes would be because studys show being raised by a single father isn't nearly as bad as being raised by a single mother
>>71742215
>that you literally said Sulu having a child isn't evidence he is straight.
it isn't. What's your point?
If ever you needed proof that nuTrek is literally just psuedo-capeshit, they're even pandering to the SJW saps now. christ
>>71742304
star trek has always done that tho
>>71742298
It is.
>now
>>71739165
heeyoooooo
>>71742051
>>71742085
Your arguments have devolved to just crying and shouting RETARD at the top of your lungs. Just disengage.
>>71742333
not by retconning characters they haven't. also see >>71740872
>>71742339
these seem to disagree with you >>71742015 >>71741946
>>71742393
no they don't
>>71739036
Are you one those shippers who assumes that all men are lusting are each other every second they don't have their penis in a woman?
>>71742296
Women are clossal fuckups without someone around to keep them in line.
NPH 'n Co probably do a bang up job.
Mary Jane "Rotten Crotch" Lowry and Susy "Sourcunt" Rodriguez? Not so much.
>>71742426
yes they do.
i like this
just saying
