holy fuck, i just finished season 1
does it keep getting better? this is honestly one of the best shows i've seen in a long time.
All that stuff you liked about season 1? Gone. Even the stuff that seemed like it would be nationwide. Completely forgotten.
>>71738554
season 2 is pretty different. some people like it more, some people like it less. it's still a must watch if you liked s1.
>>71738554
Story-wise, less things happen in season 2.
Just a reminder that in the book they never explain what actually happened and it's a Damon Lindelof series so nothing will ever be resolved.
>>71738670
if you want to know what happened you're literally missing the point
s01 is great tier
s02 is god tier
>>71738554
As someone who loved season 1 I thought season 2 was definitely better even as they dialed things back in scope. You're in for a treat. Catch up in time for the season 3 premiere so you can talk shit about it with us
>>71738571
unfortunately, this.
>>71738716
This
>>71738571
>>71738732
Ignore these memers. These are the people that would tell you season 2 of true detective is better than season 1. Or that Fargo season 1 was better than 2. They have no eye for quality and instead focus on contrarian memes to sustain themselves
>>71738554
I haven't watched season one in a while but I got season two recently and I was planning on rewatching back to back but did they ever explain if the people taken had a similar pattern to them? I think the Downs guy is a clue to all of this, what if all the people who vanished had some genetic abnormality to them?
I have never seen this series, explain to me what's good about it. I don't want to be fooled by false hype.
>>71738554
Season 2 is better, and I think you'll agree.
>>71738764
ignore this post.
season 1 of TD is better than 2. JUST LIKE THE LEFTOVERS
>>71738804
>>71738854
This isn't another one of those BvS kino memes now is it?
>>71738817
You're just a memer, like the rest of your ilk
>>71738701
>Tease viewers with inexplicable grand mystery
>Put half the cast searching for answers
>Viewers should not focus on mystery lol
Enough with this shit. Creator could have written that they died from a deadly virus or something. But then nobody would watch
>>71738870
no
that pic is unironically true
>>71738870
I can't believe more of /tv/ hasn't watched The Leftovers. I think it's the best tv drama of the 21st century, even better than Fargo or Hannibal or whatever you want to compare it to. No it's not a meme. Go watch it.
>>71738885
>it's a retarded pleb episode
Stick to the walking dead, kiddo
>>71738885
none of the main characters is searching for answer
>>71738804
it's very feelsy
if you like sad people feeling emotions and dealing with grief, it's great
the performances are god tier and the story is interesting
>>71738897
>>71738904
>>71738931
Alright, sold.
>>71738764
>muh contrarian boogeyman
>>71738554
season 2, especially the last few episodes, are true pure telekino. It's a shame justin isn't more famous
>>71738804
it's a better version of LOST
>carrie coon only has 7k followers
I dont even use twitter but feels bad, man.
[Was fucking amazing in Gone Girl too
>>71738554
still waiting on someone to recommend me another telekino that belongs in this fourth box...
>>71739062
season 1 of true detective.
>>71738990
i really feel that he's giving the performance of a lifetime
>>71739094
>a whodunit
if the main suspect isn't God, the devil, or the universe itself it can't be L kiño
>>71739135
I've tried and failed to finish this twice
>>71739135
Please no.
>>71739062
Rectify and bask in its greatness, finishing this year too along with The Leftovers.
>>71738904
The Leftovers=The Knick in terms of quality.
Topic related: I lked S1 more than the S2, but S2 is also really good specially for International Assassin but the 9th episode is kinda bad. All the Matt Jamison episodes are god tier.
>>71738870
The Leftovers is one of the best currently airing shows next to The Americans.
>>71739062
Rectify
>no nora gf to handcuff me
P I L E
O F
G U N S
>>71739158
>if the main suspect isn't God
WHO DO YOU THINK RUST WAS SHOOTING AT!?
>I was just getting drunk, murdering dogs and you asked if I wanted to kidnap and murder this woman, why are you mad?
>>71739102
>You have to sing to go home
>Think "Oh this is stupid"
>Homeward bound, incredible acting
>Tears rolling down my face one minute later
S2 starts off slower, but it's very good overall.
>>71738885
Please tell me you're trolling, it's important to me that I know that
>>71738948
Give it at least 3 episodes. I was sold by the end of the first but if you've seen the end of 3 and still feel iffy about it, it's definitely not going to do anything for you in the long run.
>>71739585
One of the greatest scenes and performances in any show ever.
>>71738554
The general consensus is that Season 2 is better than 1.
My opinion is that Season 2 is elder god tier.
season 2 is way better honestly, i thought season 1 was kinda meh and almost gave up on the show and glad i didn't
>that scene with Meg and the school bus
ABSOLUTE MAD WOMAN
I thought she would do it for a second
The only bad thing about the show is the son. He seems clinically retarded considering all the shit he just blindly follows. He almost had a good arc halfway through season 2 and then went back to full retard.
Everything else is perfect.
Seriously though someone explain that guys motivation to me
EVERYBODY'S WONDERING WHAT AND WHERE WE ALL CAME FROM
EVERYBODY'S WORRYING ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO WHEN THE WHOLE THING'S DONE
>>71741092
Did she actually plan for the son to fall in love with her or was she just thinking "I bet this will mindfuck him lol"
pretty good show
watched this season 1 like.. what ? 2 fucking years ago? if not 3?
talked about it back when it was airing, most you fags dismissed it, but it was amazing
that and the 100, back when it wasnt ruined by feminist bullshit
>>71741160
I actually love that song. The intro in s2 is GOAT
>>71739062
How great is Les Revenants/The Returned? I read somewhere that it's like a modern day French equivalent to Twin Peaks, and that caught my attention but I haven't seen anyone really talking about it, especially on here.
Also, I gotta throw my support behind The Leftovers in case anyone who hasn't seen it needs that 50th recommendation to push them over the edge. S2e8 International Assassin might be one of the greatest hours of television I've ever seen. Like elevates-tv-to-art good.
>>71739516
Lmao he was one down ass nigga. Shame they dropped him too.
Hope he pops up in Australia shooting dingos and emus
>>71741187
>it's a hipster episode
>>71741134
I was hoping that holy Wayne hug giving him powers story was good. That had potential
>>71741191
Me too it was such an earworm for me
Had to watch the opening every episode
>>71739193
Fuck, Rectify's concluding too? This is gonna be a rough year. All I'll have left from my original roster after is 2 seasons of The Americans and possibly The Night Of if it's not a one-off. Maybe Halt & Catch Fire too
>it's a season 2 intro episode
never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PTNHQND6MA
>>71741191
>>71741300
The first episode they played I hated it and thought it was stupid but by the second or third episode I realized it was ridiculously appropriate.
Plus the artwork is pure kino
They are only doing 3 seasons right? I really hope season 3 is as good as the first two, it would be such a shame to end the series with a clunker season
>>71741191
>>71741300
Why did yall like it? I thought it was bizarre and totally out of place with the vibe of the show. I mean I didn't completely hate it, but it seemed like such an odd change, especially from the spot on s1 intro. That and the way the singer sings "from" and "done" makes me want to kill someone.
>>71741169
I think it was unplanned, she was definitely surprised/elated when he told her his folks had moved to Jordan in Texas
>>71741222
Congrats on your trips man, you must be proud. Why am I first to check em?
Les Revenants is great but I don't see the similarities to Twin Peaks, don't watch it if that's what you're looking for. There's no air of lightness/quirkiness to it.
>>71741440
Well the song itself is about how existential angst is a big problem and worrying about it fucks you up. Which is pretty much 100% the theme of the show.
I like that it's happy but restrained which gives a nice compliment to the show's mostly sad but sometimes happy vibe.
And I like that they didn't go for techno or classical BWAAAMMMM like most other shows.
>>71738885
>Tease viewers with inexplicable grand mystery
Only the idiot viewers who don't understand the point of the show after two seasons.
>But half the cast searching for answers
Literally an irrelevant point. Not only is it untrue (most of the cast is simply trying to live their lives), but the fact that people are working so hard to unravel a mystery they will never get an answer to is part of the metaphor.
>Viewers should not focus on mystery lol
You can focus on whatever you want, you seem fairly stupid so maybe you can only appreciate the show on a shallow level. Just don't whine when the show doesn't answer questions they told you they wouldn't answer back in season 1.
>>71741385
I adored that opening even though it's definitely partially responsible for putting people off the show. Rewatch it as often as Carnivale's
>>71738764
>everything I don't like was posted by the same person
Season 1, while a bit (by lindelof standards) forced, was about a nationwide existential crisis and people working through it.
Season 2 was about people being angry their grief wasn't getting national recognition after 140 million people vanished.
>>71738554
>look up wiki
>see there never is an explanation and it's just a lazy plot vehicle for muh character drama
>>71738930
nora spent the entire first season in a job built around looking for an answer.
>>71741754
>when a pleb dismisses something because of pleb desires to know everything
Stay pleb
>>71741754
Somehow I don't think you get the romance of mystery.
>>71741579
Season 1's opening was all about the desperation of the situation.
Season 2's opening was "okay desperations over we're moving on now. Care to watch more? Just remember we're letting the mystery be!"
>>71741799
>convinces self intellectual laziness is intelligence
Please. I bet you thought this was some sort of character driven master piece as well.
>>71741825
There is no mystery. The author came up with an idea and was too lazy to ever come up with an resolution.
>>71741825
lindelof focuses on the "romance" of mystery because he knows for damned certain he can't write a compelling resolution. He knows his mysteries will be more interesting than any actual answer he can produce, so he tries to pass that off as a stylistic choice, rather than a personal failing.
Its like those idiots on deviantart who try to pass their complete and total lack of artistic ability as personal style, because that's easier than improving.
>>71741889
>The author came up with an idea and was too lazy to ever come up with an resolution.
The lack of a resolution is the romance. It might be lazy, but it doesn't bother everyone.
>>71738554
Season 2 is different, but vastly improved.
>>71741920
I guess I hit a little too close to home for you eh?
>>71741889
>The author came up with an idea and was too lazy to ever come up with an resolution.
Its even worse than that. the author specifically wanted a certain situation (dude worldwide existential crisis lmao! sheeple being forced to wake up! They go crazy!!) then just forced it into being without actually developing any sort of organic reasoning for such a state of affairs. The IP is basically just playing ring-a-round-the-rosie with the five stages of grief and various characters who are supposed to represent different aspects of those stages.
Its pop-sociological garbage.
>>71742027
What does someone like you actually enjoy?
>>71742061
Nothing on fucking television or in theaters for the last few years, that's for damned sure.
>>71742077
>for the last few years
And before that? Anything?
>>71742027
You just don't understand mannnn. Like life's a mystery mannnn. It's about the journey mannnnn. It's deep and meaningful mannnnn.
>>71742061
Things that aren't pretentious. Its okay to try and fail. Its not okay to try, fail, and pretend your failure is actually total success.
That said, silicon valley is the best thing currently airing. By a wide, wide margin.
>>71742061
Rectify.
Its actually the same core concept as leftovers (functional death without a funeral) except stripped of all the bullshit hooks and pretenses of depth.
>>71742027
No.
>>71738554
I just finished season 1 as well and I was left wondering what was the significance of that specific 1970's National Geographic.
The crazy ex-chief seemed convinced that it would red pill his son. Does that come back in season 2?
>>71742220
Feel free to elaborate.
>>71742255
It doesn't. He was insane man he was just fixated on it.
>>71742255
Nope!
Dads encountered in the video-game-dream sequence though.
This show is so good
>>71742255
The magazine was about aboriginals in Australia.
And he goes there at the end of S1.
And then S3 takes place there.
Daily reminder that this show has no substance whatsoever and leaving aside the mysteries that never have to be answered yet comprise the bulk of the show is a poor excuse for a melodrama that is tailored towards stupid/ignorant and spiritually bankrupt people who automatically assume a show must be smart because it's on HBO and don't understand that symbolism doesn't equal depth.
>>71742418
>>71742135
>>71742027
>>71741906
>Stop liking what I don't like
>>71742458
Propping up shit like The Leftovers is a symptom of the collective cultural downturn we are currently experiencing with popular art. Be part of the problem if you want.
>>71742545
>Stop liking what I don't like
Everyone on /tv/ goes gaga over this fucking show. Call me a sucker, but I've mostly trusted the tastes on this site (mostly). I gave the first episode a try and was bored as fuck. Cult-ish narrative devices are always hackneyed, as are apocalyptic-style narratives (I know this is not technically a post-apocalyptic narrative, but it functions very similarly). The editing gimmicks were stale, transparent, and way overused. I wanted to like it really fucking bad, but I didn't.
What do you guys like most about this show? Show me the way.
>>71742571
>>71742458
At the end of the day its not really subjective as much as people with shit taste want it to be.
>>71742418
>symbolism doesn't equal depth.
Thank Christ someone said it.
>>71741222
>S2e8 International Assassin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0EAL3vXZrM
mah fucking nigga
This thread is being invaded by contrarian plebs. It was only a matter of time
>>71742624
>Stop liking what I don't like
>My opinions are facts
>>71742655
Yeah I remember The Leftovers used to be very admired but only a small amount of people liked it. Now, everyone else has discovered it and hates it I guess.
>>71742585
gr8 b8 m8
0/10
>>71742681
The opinion/fact dichotomy is STRICTLY enforced by people with bad taste/no taste for actual inquiry or self improvement. There is no disinction between opinion and fact - just statements with varying levels of work put into them.
If the statement references yourself, say whatever you want. But when it comes to something like "this show is great/this show is shit", you're not saying "I like this show/I hate this show". Theyre not the same thing. The latter statements are verifiable through evidence, and one of them ought to be right, considering they contradict eachother.
This is very very fundamental logic and very few people exercise it
>>71742722
They're too pleb to understand. They've fallen for the batman vs superman hype
Why are people on /tv/ so insistent that I think exactly how they do and like what they like. For all the talk about how we're better than reddit because we aren't a hugbox you people are really trying to make it one.
Pic related
>>71742655
The fact that this show is uniformly praised on capeshit and celebrity gossip central is all the evidence you need that it is terrible.
>>71742755
What the fuck I'm not baiting at all, what about my post was bait?? That I didn't like it? Really?
>>71742802
well, I meant "former", not "latter'. that kinda fucks up my line of thinking. oh well
>>71742802
Oh my god
>>71742818
>uniformly praised
>Half the thread says they don't like it
>>71742802
>I literally do not understand the textbook definition of what an opinion is
>>71742929
I obviously don't care about semantic arguments. "I like this show/I hate this show" are not opinions; one of them is true, and the truth can be either for anyone.
"This show is great/this show is shit" are both statements subject to inquiry. They are not opinions. They are not uniquely true to each person. One of them is more right for everyone everywhere, but to find which one requires evidence.
Simple stuff
>>71743005
Are you fucking retarded?
>>71739330
I Actually enjoy this show. Glad i found it. Shame that Jill got BLACKED
>>71741255
nah im not a hipster i legitimate have good taste
your just bandwagoning hipsters badwagoning on whats popular now because its trendy, youre the hipster plebs , not me
>>71743063
Wise teen negro was too religious to fuck her and then the town blew up. She's still pure
>>71743099
>implying that BBC hasn't been crammed in her mouth every night of season 2
>>71743082
>it's a hipster in denial episode
>>71742624
Symbolism is being subtle about a certain thing, by it's subtlety it can even be more stimulating than a real argument, and depending on the symbol, it can have actual depth or even a different view related to the subject it's trying to symbolize. Film/TV is not a medium that can appeal to real depth, they have little time to do it, symbolism is one way that is as good as the real depth (this one requires argumentation and can be done better in books or so).
>>71743005
You're appealing to generalization to justify your argument. I think Zohan is a good movie (I do have arguments to prove it), but most of the people don't like this movie.
How can you say that opinions don't exist? A fact can be changed if we analyze it through a different lens, therefore is not a fact anymore, it becomes an opinions and people can agree or not with it.
>>71738554
season 2 is full of "what the fuck is going on" moments but in a good way imo
not sure if they have the same impact when you can binge it
>>71743005
Your evidence is that the show, especially season 2, has gotten nearly universal critical acclaim. Also, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>71743724
as someone who watched both seasons well after broadcast, it sure did
>>71741385
never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTgEdghAOA
This show how such a great soundtrack
>>71742722
Quit focusing on the negative replies, this thread had an impressive amount of praise for the show considering it's off season.
It's the livethreads where everyone shows up
>>71739035
no
>>71743099
Michael was like the only tolerable one in his crazy family seriously. What was their problem.
>>71741769
Nora =/= half of the cast
Also, she expended that amount of time doing that because it is her job (and because she lost almost all of her family), and she as a character does not define only because of that trait.
>>71742585
>everyone
live threads peak at like 20 people. Half of which are popping in, posting >lindelof, and hiding the thread.
>>71738554
season 1 > 2
BUT season 2 has international assassin and lens, the two best episodes of the whole show. nora and matt eps from s1 are close behind.
>>71743605
The general point you seem to continually miss is there is a difference between "i like/hate x" and "x is great/shit," despite how many people use the latter to mean the former.
>>71744139
Is Matt "battle priest" Jamison the best character in the show?
>>71743975
laurie was in the cult because she thought they had an answer
jill was all up in nora's shit because she thought she had an answer
laurie's son was with holy wayne because he thought holy wayne had an answer
Holy wayne had an entire cult of people who thought he had an answer.
Job (always forget the character's actual name) was convinced he also had an answer.
That's actually more than half the cast.
>>71744207
maybe. i'm partial to patty, kevin and nora.
>there is no fucking moving on. what's next? what's fucking next? nothing is next!
>i didn't kill myself
>you can believe what you want, kevin. i'm just glad we finally talked about it.
>>71744207
until you realize hes a walking-talking retelling of the book of job. Is a christian priest. Has read the book of job. Calls the book of job his favorite book. Yet continues to willingly be job in a reality that exists only to fuck him over for trying to be a decent person.
>mfw the first season I was certain that the event was caused by faulty coding, or a "hardware" failure in a simulated universe
>mfw the second season throws this whole theory out the window
>>71744207
>>71744296
wait no, based hoyl wayne is the best character. still angry he died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FOYtYLgeLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNtjgCnb4g
>>71744207
I liked him until the season 2 redo of the Job episode from season 1, it was a but too overt
>>71744318
kevin literally respawns, twice, by playing a little video game, so that theory is most certainly still possible.
>>71744328
What the fuck did Kevin wish for?
>>71744364
his family back you fucking simp
it doesn't matter anyway as wayne was a fraud
>>71744328
I can 100% see Johnson becoming a cult leader if his life for any more shit
>>71743605
>A fact can be changed if we analyze it through a different lens, therefore is not a fact anymore, it becomes an opinions and people can agree or not with it.
The fact doesn't change - the fact never changed. There are no "different lenses"; there is one lens, tuned by logic. When you say a fact "changes", it only becomes closer to truth, and was never a fact to begin with but only mistaken as one.
Logic is logic, reason is reason. It dictates what it dictates. You can choose to not believe in it - doesn't make it right, permissible, or appropriate.
>>71744364
The same thing everyone wishes for. To go back to the way it was before the departening.
>>71744337
I don't know man, International Assassin really seems to support the idea that he was in an afterlife. Plus you have Patty actually being able to influence what's going on.
I cried.
https://youtu.be/mw3H3OFg-2g
>>71744427
at least till they did it a second time, and he chose a different class/difficulty thus got a different trial to respawn
>>71744473
What do you mean?
>>71744449
He had me fooled for a few episodes
I liked when The Sopranos did it first
>>71743908
I really hope they don't come back next season.
The dad is an asshole that goes out of his way to beat people.
The mom kills birds and is literally never polite even once
Daughter is a plot device
Son is a well balanced and polite individual
>>71744427
The "afterlife" in leftovers is a belabored reference to the greek afterlife, which characters in the greek classics basically hop in and out of like it has a revolving door. Thus the reason its a hotel. "Don't drink the water" was referencing the river Lethe.
Nothing about it really indicates its not just a simulation.
>>71744262
>Let the mystery be
when will resolutionfagging plebs like you realize that there is just as much mystery and unresolvedness in your own existence as their is in this show and others like it?
literally just go watch a bunch of reruns of Law & Order if you have such a hard on for resolution
matter of fact just sit down and do a bunch of addition problems over and over again on a piece of paper until you cum from all those delicious answers
>>71744587
vergil seemes pretty cool, except for the whole child molesting thing, and he's dead anyway
>>71744507
After "dying," he wakes up naked in a tub. He walks to an armoire. In the armoire are three completely different outfits. Cop, priest, and (turns out) international assassin. As international assassin he has to play that role and all the difficulties entailed in order to slay his demon and get another life.
Then the second time, he choose cop. To which he has to play that role and slay his personal demons to get another chance at life.
Its a literal video game sequence.
>>71744604
My own existence wasn't written by a man named damon lindelof.
Rationalizing a piece of fiction's failings by comparing that fiction to reality, something larger and more complex than any human mind can grasp, is a load of pure pseudo-intellectual psychobabble and betrays the idea you're only praising this show because you think so highly of your own intellect that anything you don't/can't understand must be genius.
>>71744587
The entire family was nothing but a collection of plot devices half-assedly converted into characters
>>71744650
>Vergil
>Takes kevin to the afterlife and explains how it works
pottery
season 2 is fantastic!
they changed the intro and at first its rather jarring and you probably wont like it but by midseason it will grow on you
>>71744832
see also: kidnapping and gang-rape.
>>71738804
theroux is cute.
CUTE!
s3 isnt airing till 2017, no fall or winter drop
confirmed for moving to australia
dad has been upgraded to series regularpatty is out
>>71744944
>patti is out
broken clock.
>>71738870
It's not, I thought it was some corny high concept thriller going in, it's not like that at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dft63gHqqKo
This show is fucking amazing.
International Assassin.
Is probably the best moment I had with a television show.
Also it hooked me o neo-classic music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCakQn_0hE
>>71738554
i hope you like niggers because s2 is full of them
S2 is really different from the first one. Most people liked it more, I didn't.
Same thing with True Detective andFargo
>>71745699
they aren't exactly angels or free of any reproach
>>71744416
So some philosofies are wrong and there are others that are right? Nope, they coexist.
Abiogenesys was a fact, until biogenesys came, and abiogenesys was a mistake.
Dreams have a lot of comprehensions, until Freud came and his psychoanalysis was treated as a fact, then Jung came and both can be interpreted the way they want. Logic conclusions can lead to sofisms, many scientists fail and many theories coexist, because there are no answers, in fact most of the things that exist have no answer, we know how they work at a certain level.
>>71744416
>he thinks a television show comprehends to a immutable fact
Almost fell from the chair, it is amazing the stupidity people say just to be contrarian.
>>71744587
I think the point of them was because despite they spared from the tragedy of the departed that doesn't mean the family can act like everything okay like some sort of contrast to Kevin family who problems became them the main focus because the departed.
Honestly the problem with the black family beside Michael was that they were so crazy and came ascross as plot-devices instead of actual characters is hard to give a shit about them probelms. Also the daughter was the definition of a selfish edgy teenager, bitch cause chaos on her town because she couldn't talk to her mom or dad.
>>71740666Tbh i have watched only the first episode
>>71747219
>>71739330
i so badly wanted her to be in the trailer on the bridge with the other girls
>>71739330
>>71748033
same. maybe we'll see her in stralia
Season 2 is literally Cuckoldry: The Show
PROPHET KEVIN NEXT SEASON?
>>71748645
Yes
>>71749019
Dr Pavel, I'm CIA
>>71748596
>>71749394
when is it going to end
>>71749394
Hm, nice catch.
I'll begin working on a proper edit of the plane boarding now.
>>71744262
Lindloff worshippers btfo
>>71739330
>Aimee will never fuck me and slap my balls on a pile of guns
JDIMSA
>>71749421
i fucking love that pic
>>71747219
I would like to have intercourse with Jill
>DUDE JUST LET THE MYSTERY BEEEE LMAO
