So what do you think so far?
I havent read the comics so my judgment cant be based on that but I really like it
Read the comics
Absolutely terrible
>>71728566
One of the best shows I've seen in a long time, but over and over I see people who have read the comics say they hate it like this guy >>71728646
Makes me really glad I didn't read the comics. They all sound like a bunch of tryhards.
>tfw no yandere tulip gf
;__;
I don't understand anything involving Rorshach's character (Odin?) at all. Please help.
>>71728682
Giving me Fallout 3 flashbacks. Everyone giving the new thing 10/10 and you're just sitting there the bitter old man with the new 'fans' telling you how the new shit is much better than the old
You just got rose-tinted goggles on grandpa, Seth Rogen understands Preacher much better than Garth Ennis ever did!
>>71728943
He really likes meat
>>71728943
Preacher told him to serve god and hes doing that, just in his own way whats not to understand
>>71728646
do the angels act the way they do in the comics? with the coffee tin and angel hotline?
>>71729256
How is killing innocents serving God?
>>71728788
Thank christ, her passive agressive bullshit is annoying, how'd that midget even get Jesse's steering wheel up that lamppost?
No yandere would fuck another man to spite him.
>>71729760
No, and they don't have nads either.
>>71728566
last episode fight in the hotel room was funny as hell
>>71729256
>Preacher told him to serve god
So what? Who is he? What's his goal? Why did he kill those associates?
>>71728991
I just read all the comics within the last week and it definitely soured my opinion of the show (which I thought was okay before). They're clearly going for a very loose adaptation of the source material but they really fucked up the relationship between Tulip and Jesse, which is basically the most important thing in the comic.
This is the second time a shitty show has turned me into a
>just read the ______
type of snob, but god damn, if you read the comics and watched so much as the trailer for the first episode you knew it had a snowball's chance in hell of being good
>>71732234
do you really think they're not going to eventually go over that? just continue watching the show you impatient fuck
>>71731769
>they don't have nads either
and how is that revealed
>>71732234
Well thats the point in watching the show. You'll find out you fucking moaner
>>71728566
Depends, if you never read the comics you will be OK since the story is not bad, but no good.
If you read the comics you will notice you are watching a poor´s man version of a great story
So, Preacher TV is a casualized version of Preacher comics
>>71732313
Actually, I'm fucking wrong, because to make Genesis an Angel had to fuck a demon, never mind got confused with Dogma.
The comic is garbage and I haven't watched the show, but I can't imagine it not being garbage as well.
>>71731702
> eco hippies
> innocent
>>71732293
>do you really think they're not going to eventually go over that?
I don't know. Shit in the show just happens with no rhyme or reason. I'm not attacking your show. I seriously thought some things flew over my head, so I asked.
I like the feel of it and I like the actors. That being said,it has been 7 episodes and nothing is happening.
>>71733999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf1w66uijqU
I didn't know this was actually a song until two days ago. Suddenly the first couple of issues make a bit more sense.
I'm hoping that the reason for the show right now being where it is and doing what it's doing is to set up Jesse's crusade against God in a more logical fashion. So instead of him just starting like he did in the comics they're building him up and a bad guy so he can turn away from his powers and then realise how corrupt the universe is that its creator would allow so much evil and horrors and then want to find God and kill him as an act of redemption to make up for what he did or does in the next few episodes. Also it sets up Cassidy and Tulip a lot better.
Because for me Preacher was all about the road trip across the weird bits of America in the 90s as they stumbled into trouble looking for God, not the backwater hick town that he spent waaaay too long in towards the end of the comic.
Although the Meat Woman was pretty awesome.
So I'm reading the comics now that the show is over, and...this is simply not telling the same story. It doesn't feel a little different, it feels completely different. Tulip and Jesse are not the same characters.
Cassidy is perfect though. Ripped from the fucking page he is.
Honestly, I didn't like the comics, but I like the show, so I'm guessing that if you like the comics, you won't like the show.
>>71731769
>Angels don't have made
Bullshit. If angels didn't have nads, genesis wouldn't exist.
>>71734633
There are angels in the comix with wings and shit, and there are also dudes in pajamas who were like low level workers.
>>71734633 see >>71733608
I corrected myself
I fucking hate Tulip.
Is she that shit in the comics?
I like the tv series but the only character i really like is Arseface.
>>71734999
>I fucking hate Tulip.
>Is she that shit in the comics?
In her intro she was more a fuckup than anything, though still a very good shot and protective of Jesse even though they were somewhat on the outs, but she loved him deeply, she's not this sassy obsessive hounding bitch you see in the TV show that can out gamble and outfight guys twice her size.
>>71735058
Wait. So you are telling me they made Tulip a strong black woman who don't need no man?
>>71735058
BREAK YO SHIT
>>71735200
Except she DOES need a man, every time Jesse says no to her treasure hunt she pitches a fit
Is Arseface a main character or a side character?
>>71731702
>>71732234
I assumed his first impulse was to call up all of the worst people be knew and execute them like Matt Damon in Dogma
>>71735348
He appears in a few volumes and has his own character arc
>>71733999
What do you mean nothing happens? I keep hearing that.
It's set in a tiny rural texas town where nothing ever happens, but so far we've seen vampires, angels, robberies, dozens of murders, a helicopter explode, a man rip his own heart out, and an old west flashback side story. What more do you want? Did you watch the sopranos and moan about nothing ever happening?
>>71734682
Even the low level adelphi fuck hookers.
>>71734465
I don't believe for a minute they're going to go full DUDE GOD IS EVIL LET'S KILL HIM LMAO on television
Muslims would blow up AMC
>>71735058
Except she was, you total mong. She got in several fights later in the comic against highly trained special ops fucking ninja-tier assholes and beat them both in brawls and shoot-outs.
Is my nigga Jesus De Sade in this?
>>71735550
>She got in several fights later in the comic
>later
>specifically talk about her intro
READING
FUCKING
COMPREHENSION
>>71735556
>loving a sexual deviant who rapes everything that moves and is involved directly in child pornography
thats haram as fuck, my man
>>71735446
Fucking this.
Before start watching, i saw a lot of people just saying nothing happens. And now thst i finished all 6 episodes, and a lot of shit happened, im just thinking people are memeing
>>71735598
Is he in it or not you fucking 3rd world savage?
>>71735589
>implying that the people making the show should ignore later characterization in favor of earlier characterization for the sake of "fidelity" over consistency
>>71735634
Not yet, and possibly never. I mean, he's really not important in the grand scheme.
>>71735685
The leader of the Gomorrah People cares not for import in the "grand scheme"
>>71735589
She doesn't get any special training between the intro and her major fights in the comic. People forget that tulips superpower is
>My dad taught me how to shoot when I was 9
That's it. Her dad taught her how to shoot as a preteen. Then she hated guns immediately after because hook hand got shot in the head on a hunt. She didn't fuck with guns at all until Amy was getting raped at that party. And then she fucking missed with a sawed off shotgun at point blank. Also fucked up the assassination attempt from 3 feet away and shot the guy next to her target.
Comic tulip hated guns and was shit with them. Until some point after Si stabbed her, then she magically turned into Jason Bourne.
Tulip is a bad tv character based on a bad comic character.
What's with that old west side history?
People were selling indians heads? I didn't understood that
Why does every Arseface scene make me so sad?
>>71735897
Bounties on killing Indians to rid the area of them to make room for the white man with his empty streets and his indoor plumbing.
>>71735925
Because he's so pathetic, it's weird reading the prequel comic with him because he's such a dour miserable cunt before he shot himself and he actually became a more positive and happy person afterwards even with his Arseface, his abusive father and his mother who left them both.
>>71728646
People who've read the books/comics of a show/film always complain about the adaptation. It's nothing new, usually because they don't understand the different demands and constraints of making TV
>>71735897
Towns would put a bounty on native scalps as a way to encourage murdering them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalping#Mexico
The old west story is just to build up that character called Saint of Killers
>>71735952
Why the "coma girl " mother hates him and call him a murderer?
The Preacher comic is legitimately fucking trash, but trash that makes sense for its time. It's got that 90s Edgemaster bullshit where things are fucked up for the sake of being fucked up- it shared the limelight with the period of Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie and NWA, people who were tired of the shiny veneer of perfection and beauty in media, people who felt more connected to the dirt and grime of life than the "higher" aspirations of culture. I tried rereading it a few years ago and just laughed at how tryhard it is, but it has a historical context in the 90s that makes sense.
Does the TV show in any way temper the problem of its source material, or does it just make a mediocre comic into a mediocre show/shitty show?
>>71736002
I'm gonna assume they were edgy teenagers together and Tracy just fucked up trying to kill herself the same way Eugene did, only going into a coma instead of getting a disfigured face. But I don't know if they've said, I haven't caught up on episodes yet.
>>71736088
>I don't like it, therefore it is trash.
Opinion discarded. That comic is the craziest goddamn thing I ever read, and regardless of my own opinion, a great fucking story is a great fucking story. Go cry somewhere else.
>>71736002
No idea in the show, but in the comic he and his one friend wanted to kill themselves because they loved Kurt Cobain so much and he'd just killed himself.
Probably something along those lines, either the two of them tried to kill themselves together and the mother doesn't forgive him for dragging her daughter down with him OR maybe Arseface and some other friend did it like in the comic(with it being Arseface's idea in the first place) and a stray buckshot or something hit the girl knocking her into a coma(or she found them and was traumatised by it into a coma which is unlikely I admit).
That's speculation obviously but the second scenario makes sense of her calling him a murderer if he talked someone into killing himself.
>>71736088
That comic is such a piece of the 90s it's crazy. From Cobain killing himself to Bill Hicks to the goths who watched waaaaay too much The Crow and Interview With the Vampire with the Twin Towers still standing and the fear of Y2K and the millennium causing the apocalypse along with the kind of happy go lucky attitude amongst the public that America was still on the right path and the future was bright.
It also hit that time when masculinity was still admirable and treating women with respect and before it became, for want of a better word, cucked. The guys feel like shit when they hurt or endanger the women and it comes across as a bit corny but genuine instead of "ironic".
The TV show hasn't addressed that much of the edgy stuff that I've noticed no, not yet at least.
>>71736182
It's not really a great fucking story, though. It's a bunch of fun vignettes. The entire arc taken together is pretty lackluster, it just has some really spectacular moments.
>>71736216
Oh Christ, the stuff with Cass and the Interview with a Vampire wannabe is my favorite sidestory.
>>71736250
>fun vignettes
That are side-trips as part of a larger story. If characters only do shit that advances the plot, then you're watching a movie.
This is something larger, and it all contributes to character development, and you don't seem to know anything about anything.
>>71736320
I fundamentally disagree with your assessment of the quality of the entire arc, but that's okay.
>>71736317
I love those idiots, they were such tryhards and they also showed a side of Cassidy we didn't get to see in the main comic, his restraint. That stupid other vampire couldn't help himself when he was feeding(both he and Cassidy, it should be noted, became Vampires because the person feeding on them was killed midway through) but Cassidy, who drank and snorted his way through life was able to control himself in just that one area. He was a bastard so much of the time but he did a lot to avoid killing to feed himself.
The fall of Cassidy into the utter detestable bastard he became was a really sad storyline even though it made perfect sense in retrospect. He was just a weak person with no ties or connections to tie him down and he hated himself for it.
>>71736317
>>71736476
This.
>>71736435
It's okay to hate good things, not everyone here can have taste.
Wait, is Arseface dead now?
Since Preacher told him to go to hell.
Or can a person still be alive in hell?
>>71736534
>has not been called Arseface on the show
>only the comic
>you know he's called Arseface
>do not know what happens to him
You literal cuck bandwagoner homosexual.
>>71736571
They called him that in the very first episode...
But you are doing a good job fitting in.
Good job!
>>71736597
No they didn't.
Good job!
Never read the comic
Watched the first 3 episodes
Looked boring so I stopped
Did it improve?
>>71736624
Yes they did.
I like it, the show is getting progresivelly better,
Also the story of the old guy in the past is interisting as fuck
>>71736645
The 6th episode was the craziest shit I ever saw.
>>71736650
No. Cassidy remarked that he had a "face like an arse" and that's as close as they got.
>>71736476
>Killed midway through
The vampire that bit Cass wasn't killed. It went back into the water. And ecarius never even hinted that the one that bit him was killed. Just that he was bitten and woke up a vampire.
Chances are it was the same creature.
>>71728682
same thing with walking dead and got i honestly stay out of the 'source material' because the movies usually ruin things i went through that with LoTR and Harry Potter never again.
I aboslutely hate this fucking show. Now, there have been other Vertigo shows which are completely unfaithful to the source material like Lucifer and iZombie, but at least these other two have likeable characters and fun situations so you just go "eh whatever, it's run-of-the-mill" unimaginative hollywood shit but it's fun to watch through once.
this though...oh my fucking god. they take one of the greatest love stories ever put on paper and transform the relationship between jesse and tulip into a crapfest that doesn't even feel like love or even basic chemistry/attraction between the chacters.
they take a road trip across america and give it a static setting.
they take a fun psycho like odin quinncannon and make him DULL.
Jesse is this fucking moron religiousfag when he should be very anti-religion because of his traumatic upbringing(but that's the thing isn't it, his dad's a fucking preacher in it, everything's changed in a way that doesn't work).
it's dull, it's slow, the humour is shit, the interactions between the characters don't work and you get to a point where a fucking original character like Emily whatever is more interesting to watch than fcuking CASSIDY.
GARBAGE
>>71736757
Wew u such a crit , maybe should aply to tomatos
>>71736088
makes sense cant wait for a couple more seasons of this shit honestly its glorious
Loved the darkness videogames too
>Based on a vertigo comic
well, it made me puke, that's something
>>71735791
>Until some point after Si stabbed her, then she magically turned into Jason Bourne.
Nothing like that fucking happened, you need to re-read those comics because you're so far up your ass trying to throw the comic version under the bus to explain why the TV version is so bad.
>>71735644
Congrats, you're no better a Danyfag, fuck character growth, give me all the cool shit right now!
>>71736757
I agree the onscreen chemistry for Jesse and Tulip ain't spectacular, but the comic relationship isn't exactly what I'd call the greatest love story on paper.
>>71736805
The OP asked. also the people who think Preacher the comic is tryhard trash are morons focusing only on the excessive violence which makes it "edgy" and fail to get that what makes that comic work are the compelling and complex and weird characters. the characters in this show , the main trio, have no chemistry and tulip is downright unlikeable and Jesse is becoming so too now that they're doing this stupid plot where he's being "seduced" by genesis
>>71736953
At least Tulip in the comic wasn't a pitbull in heat wearing lipstick
>>71736940
But she didn't grow. She just magically became a master killer at some point. There was no development. There was no training, no shift in personal experience or outlook, just getting popped in the head.
>>71736729
You are correct, my apologies. For some reason I remembered it differently.
>>71728991
I didn't read the comics and I'm not telling this is better, I can't. I just really like it. After the show is done I'll read the comics as well. I feel it'll probably be like bourne series, books and the movies were both great but extreme ways apart.
>>71728646
>reading comics
I don't get the vampire in this show.
One minute he burns in the sun then ge doesn't(direct sunlight was clearly shining on him in the pit when he jumps out of the plane.
One minute he's strong enough to pull a huge cow in, the next he's wrestling with humans like he doesn't have super strength.
does he even drink blood except when he's injured? he says no, so how is he even a vampire? even fucking twilight vampires need blood to live
>>71728788
>tfw no churchfu
>>71737297
she was hotter in true blood where she was Eric's sister/lover
>>71737285
Probably he doesnt need , only to get stronger and to heal idk
>>71737245
it's not comics, it's Vertigo.
if you can read Lucifer from start to finish and not think it's literature i pity you
>>71736757
>they take one of the greatest love stories ever put on paper
kek
>>71737285
he clearly said he only drinks blood to heal and would rather drink liquor.
>>71737380
>he bought the Vertigo memeI agree with you, honestly, but I don't consider Vertigo a special case for the literary nature of comix
>>71732249
This
I can deal with a lot of the changes, but the absolute slash and burn they did with Tulip and Jesse's relationship is atrocious. And having CASSIDY FUCK TULIP LIKE EP5 IN?
I look forward to see if they do well when they get the plot on the road. But i had such high hopes after ep.1 and nothing has matched that. most recent episode was decent at least
I look forward to THE BOYS COMING TO CINEMAX
>>71734548
aside from him fucking his best mates girl
You know your show has a problem when the side character nobodies are more interesting than the main characters
Donny's wife>Donny>Emily>Cassidy>Jesse>a turd coated in vomit>Tulip
>>71735622
Well compare that to what happens in the comic right off the bat. When Jesse gets Genesis the entire church explodes. The Saint of Killers is sent to kill Jesse and bring Genesis back. What follows is a trail of blood and slaughter as the Saint of Killers tracks Jesse while Jesse reunites with his girlfriend Tulip (the two are basically perpetually in the honeymoon phase of a relationship) and they meet bro-tier Cassidy who helps them out.
and that's way over simplified
>>71737285
The Cassidy character is a vampire for the sake of having his weakness as a person be given mythological form. Yes, he's a vampire who can live forever and needs blood to survive, but his true vampiric nature is in his relationship to other people and the way he uses them up to meet his own selfish ends. A cycle of parasitism for a hundred or more years. dragging innocent people into the darkness he feels most comfortable in with only momentary periods of lucidity where he comes to realize the scum he truly is. He's the addict archetype given supernatural significance.
That being said, yes, the show is a lot lazier on the sunlight thing, and in the comics he always wears sunglasses so as to hide his inhumanly colored eyes.
>>71737559
>, and in the comics he always wears sunglasses so as to hide his inhumanly colored eyes.
Sixty fucking issues to show them, I read the series in trades from my library, I can't imagine having to wait almost five years to see his eyes just to see how fucked up they were.
>>71737559
eh okay, but REALLY he's a copy of Near Dark vampires cause ennis fucking loves westerns, which is also why the Saint of Killers is in it
>>71737559
Eccarius has normal eyes, Cassidy's aren't fucked up because of vampirism but because of a century of alcohol and drug abuse
I'M JUST STOKED THAT OF ALL NETWORKS TO END UP ON, THE BOYS IS ON CINEMAX
but really after Banshee it feels like the perfect network.
>>71736940
>Nothing like that happened
That's exactly what happened. And I've read the comics twice a year since 99. Maybe you should read it again
>>71737703
see IMO the boys actually are edgy, and people who think preacher is edgy because of the violence really need to read the boys to see what edgy is. although Billy is a great character and a truly frightening portrayal of an obssessed person, so it's worth it just to see his arc and background. he's also a badass, that fucking scene where he single handledly beats the faux avengers
>>71737757
That scene where they prepare to fight the 150 supes all by themselves and the corporation comes in with helicopters and just slaughters them all with machine guns and flamethrowers
>>71737807
Also that great scene showing what would happen if superheroes were trying to save the airplane
>>71737652
Maybe, except he wears them even way back when he was just turned and arriving in America for the first time. Might have more to do with his death and time spent in the river or something. It's a mystery.
>>71728566
I've read the comics and haven't seen the show but if it's not similar I might give it a try.
Even 13 years old me thought the comics were entertaining but pretentious and unnecessarily edgy.
>>71728566
I've read the comics and I don't really give a shit about the changes since I am waiting to see the direction they are trying to follow. I was disappointed after the second episode a bit but the last two episodes were great. Waiting for the fucking Saint though.
>>71731702
Grow or die, nigga. There's only one god in the meat making business.
>>71737832
>all my fucking KEKS
>>71737621
I was one of the people that were hung up on the eye thing back in the day. Real let down when Cass cheap shorted Jess and the eye reveal sucked. Really enjoyed jess piecing cassidy up in that parking lot and telling him why he was getting whooped though.
>>71737885
I couldn't care less about that plot line. Let's just get Jesse on his hunt for God soon
>>71737895
The final fight with Jess and Cass was really fucking top notch. That last little tiny bit of good Cass had in him being apparent, that strong sense of brotherhood even despite all the shit they faced, real good shit.
>>71737507
>implying Cass from the comics wasn't a scumbag
>>71737873
preacher is good schlock. you care about the characters, you care about jesse's disappintment in his friend, about the love story, and so the balls-to-the-walls violence works and is fun. as far as it being pretentious, i have no idea where you got that from, it's basically the comic version of a B-movie
>>71737914
so he can wipe his ass?
>>71737958
which is revealed when they become real friends, not in issue 5. what was the point of cassidy fucking tulip in episode 5?
>>71737958
He had his moments, he killed that bastard Vampire that was stringing those kids along, he tried to save Jesse from falling from the plane, he pretended to be Jesse to trick the Grail into taking him, he saved Tulip at the start from those gangsters she was trying to kill.
He had a lot of good moments as well as bad, it's what made him such an interesting character.
where is John Wayne, pilgrims?
>>71738052
So that his unrequited love for her later(assuming they keep that in) makes some kind of sense for TV audiences because they can't do sudden "I'm in love with you and have been for ages!" reveals without questioning everything.
If they've already banged then there is a history established between them and him wanting her makes more sense.
>>71738115
and what a passionate love scene it was, i've fallen in love with tons of girls who looked bored as i mechanically rammed them in the back of a car
>>71738187
Cass is kinda a loser, mate. That's what he does. He fell in love with the idiot kid who fucked up her assassination gig at first sight and fell deeper in love with her because of the envy he felt seeing her and Jesse. He's a shit guy, and he knows it, which is why he tries his damndest not to be shit for a fair whack of time.
He desperately WANTS to be good, to be the guy who does right by the girl, to have someone love him and desire him more than anything in the world, it's just not in his little cursed heart.
>>71737914
they also need to drop the Jesse/Tulip "romance", it's dead. Might as well give it a try with Lucy Griffiths, it might work
>>71737297
I honestly don't know if I wanna fuck her or pinch her cheeks and give her a cookie
>>71728991
This comparison is retarded. Fallout 3 wasn't an adaptation (or remake in vidya terms) of Fallout 1/2, it was just a terrible game casuals liked because it was well-marketed. Preacher is a great show on its own, I don't give a flying fuck how it 'ruined' your shitty paper cartoons, fuck off back to your faggot cesspool at /co/, bitchboyo
>>71738793
>shitty paper catroons
>talks about video games like he's discussing world politics
oh the irony
Isn't it bugging anyone else to death that after all this time jesse doesn't know/believe that cass is a real vampire? He still just thinks cassidy is a weird, crazy person. Why doesn't cass just show him how his skin catches fire in the sun or something? Also, tulip knows he's a real vamp and she never asked jesse about it? She doesn't think that's odd or worthy of conversation?
>>71739003
also, if you don't know the comic, you'd think the vampire hunters would be a major part of the show and they make no sense.
how are they aware and capable of tracking a nomadic loser who pretty much just drinks in bars? and if they're so ultra-capable they can track cassidy across state lines, how are they so incompetent not to know Holy Water and arrows won't hurt him? this is a completely legitimate question to ask about a major plot element introducted in the pilot. who are these guys?
but no, we'll never hear from them again
>>71736476
Cassidy was so relatable because he was fucked up especially when it comes to friendships
>>71736720
>The 6th episode was the craziest shit I ever saw.
You saw very little stuff in your life then.
>>71733567
>If you read the comics you will notice you are watching a poor´s man version of a great story
Okay this opinion is either nostalgia or as fucking /pol/ as le jews, le degeneracy, le weed man by my book.
The comic is simply awful. It's ugly as sin, it stretches too much over dialogues in restaurants/coffee, it's edgy, it's literally fedora core, and the author is obviously a manchild.
Meanwhile the show has a great cast, is very-well paced, tries to actually bring new stuff to the medium (last episode's hotel room brawl was unique as fuck), doesn't take itself too seriously and yet manages to be excellent.
The team behind the show probably loves the comic more than the fedora-tippers ""fans"'" here, since they're actually trying to make it decent.
>>71740748
Its edgy because its set in the nineties..
>>71735925
>Why does every Arseface scene make me so sad?
because the actor has the eyes of a 3 month old labrador puppy
>>71740748
>fedora fedora edgy fedora xD
