This board has become too plebeian for me. What is a good place to discuss cinema with more aware people? Don't recommend me reddit, apparently it is more plebeian than this place.
>>71658396
>apparently
why don't you try for yourself
There is nowhere because there is little middle ground.
Either the community is full of capeshit and garbage, or full fucking pretentious.
>>71658396
Try reddit.
>>71658396
The film board on 4+4chan is really slow, but there is some great discussion on there.
Otherwise DO try reddit, for film it's not that bad.
>>71658396
Try metafilter. It's full of hipsters but usually interesting.
>>71658396
I don't even care about discussing.I just come here to find something decent to watch but it is always garbage. There is no place to find something worth watching.I am sick of going through a thousand films a day on letterboxd.
>I need to DISCUSS
Just read reviewers and have some pro et contra in your mind
>>71660687
>There is no place to find something worth watching
Letterboxd (add reviewers you are interested and check what they're watching), RYM has autistic charts, and if you are part of private tracker new torrents list is pretty nice (Works in RARGBG too)
r/truefilm isn't bad
Is there any chance of /film/ happening or should I cut chord the chord and leave this useless shit hole?
>>71660687
>to find something worth watching
There you go, friend.
Citizen Kane (1941)
La règle du jeu (1939)
Bronenosets Potemkin (1925)
Vertigo (1958)
8½ (1963)
The Godfather (1972)
The Godfather: Part II (1974)
La passion de Jeanne d'Arc (1928)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
L'avventura (1960)
Ladri di biciclette (1948)
Tôkyô monogatari (1953)
Shichinin no samurai (1954)
The Searchers (1956)
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
City Lights (1931)
L'Atalante (1934)
Singin' in the Rain (1952)
The General (1926)
Greed (1924)
La grande illusion (1937)
The Gold Rush (1925)
Ugetsu monogatari (1953)
Rashômon (1950)
Raging Bull (1980)
Ivan Groznyy (1945-1958)
Pather Panchali (1955)
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942)
Andrey Rublyov (1966)
Touch of Evil (1958)
La dolce vita (1960)
Intolerance: Love's Struggle Throughout the Ages (1916)
Jules et Jim (1962)
Smultronstället (1957)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
À bout de souffle (1960)
The Third Man (1949)
Les enfants du paradis (1945)
Hiroshima mon amour (1959)
Monsieur Verdoux (1947)
Pierrot le fou (1965)
Some Like It Hot (1959)
Modern Times (1936)
Ikiru (1952)
Persona (1966)
Zerkalo (1975)
La strada (1954)
Fanny och Alexander (1982)
>>71660866
>RYM has autistic charts
autistic? dude I can spend hours getting recommendations from that
>>71658580
>The film board on 4+4chan is really slow, but there is some great discussion on there.
I concur.
>Otherwise DO try reddit, for film it's not that bad.
I disagree. I've only posted in one thread (and it was an alright thread) but I've lurked in dozens over the course of around three weeks before giving up on that site.
For all the cancer on /tv/, it's still the best place for discussion, as well.
>>71660866
Reviews are not enough. Let's imagine I'm looking for suggestions of films with very specific type of cinematography, and I need a place where I can be recommended with correct films.
>>71661987
>worth watching
>posts nothing but imdb-core but with original foreign titles to be exotic
>>71662068
Then u fucking nigger are fubar
>>71658396
Hello!
I completely agree that this place is filled with a bunch of idiots who don't know a thing about cinema.
Come join us over at https://www.reddit.com/r/truefilm for true film discussion with a community of film enthusiasts!
>>71662058
>yfw Cinemos charts
https://cinemos.com/beta/chart_access
>>71661987
This post almost unlocked /film/ again
>>71661987
boring movies.
>>71662109
Alright :) You convinced me. Greet me reddit, I'm coming!
>>71662185
prepared to live for recognition instead of responses. It's sure to put a permanent smile on your dial.
>>71662100
I always use a film's original title when referring to it.
Is there something wrong with that?
>>71662068
Have you tried actually making threads on /tv/? I personally jump on any opportunity to actually discuss a fucking movie here.
>has become too "pleb" for me
>posts screenshot of citizen kane
>>71662100
>original foreign titles
As it should. God I fucking hate sites that use their English name.
>>71662109
I just looked at their front page and they look like mostly plebs just like /tv/ only they can't get away with cunnyspam over there. I'm seriously considering trying Reddit just to actually discuss movies, even if everyone there is an idiot and I can't call people retarded niggers for it.
>>71662289
What's your favourite Chinese movie? Mine's 醉拳.
>>71661987
ehm, you should already have seen 95% of those if you're seriously attempting to discuss film
>>71662255
not him, but those opportunities get rarer and rarer these days. seems like all threads end up devolving into anti-sjw, anti-women, racism or memes. very little actual discourse anywhere on 4chan these days.
>>71662289
>original foreign titles
>but no the original script
0/10
>>71661987
decent list but citizen kane first?
that movie is like the beatles
>>71662393
Good?
>>71662393
why are you assuming that the list is ordered
>>71662356
We need to come up with a way to start a /film/ general - cone bra edition -
>>71662354
I have seen them all, this post in an advice to another guy who's looking for suggestions. Hopefully he likes it.
>>71662431
Because a discerning one should use every opportunity to express his skills of assessing quality.
>>71662471
yeah, you obviously have seen them, because you are recommending them
my reply was directed towards the other guy
![American-Pie-Gallery-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IqnBZO1.jpg "American-Pie-Gallery-1[1].jpg")
>>71660687
At times I come here at random for the same reason, and mostly just quickly leave.
It's just superheros, blockbusters, cliché punch lines, and "A-list" Hollywoodian obsession...
>tfw you want to find a real community that actually discusses television and film, but nothing beats anonymity
fuck reddit, fuck forums, fuck upboats and personality cults and attentionwhores
>>71662544
4chan isn't anonymous. Don't even pretend that just because there isn't user names (by default) that it is anonymous. In a actual conversation you can track and identify posters based on their shibboleths, how they use certain words, or just by reply chain.
>>71662544
Logins are the worst honestly.
>>71662585
You practically log-in to 4chan every time you write CAPTCHA and all the information goes through Google.-
>>71662580
Still you don't need a login.
And someone would have to really care about it to be tracing you.
Quite not your problem if someone takes the time to obsess over stalking a random person they have no actual connection with, hm?
>>71662662
No, I don't.
I don't type my email, username, dah-dah-dah
>all the information goes through Google
Kind of sucks honestly. I think people who actually care try proxies.
I'm not hiding. I just not into social medias, creating profiles, etc...
>>71662762
>I don't type my email, username, dah-dah-dah
Google attaches it all to your ID in their servers and can track you, your posts.
It is exactly the same as login in principle and reality, no matter if the technicality doesn't match up a classic login
You could buy 4chan pass, but then 4chan tracks you and not Google.
>>71662823
I wish Google was tracking me so it would know it's me and not a bot and stop making me solve these retarded captchas every time
go on a actual forum? there is more than one website OP
>>71658580
>shilling for 8gag
Kill yourself
>>71658396
/tv/ is /co/2.0
>>71663198
Why the stress? It's a good place
artist caffees and pubs, with your liberal arts and film studies friends from uni.
>>71658396
yesterday someone posted >>71602200 though and it had more /tv/ related content than all of the other threads combined for last 7 daysGook revive /film/
>>71663442
That thread was retarded as fuck. Starts off with AGI while badmouthing capeshit or GOT. Talk about a fucking person with no sense of how ridiculous he sounds when AGI made a failed critique of 'capeshit killing the cinema'
>>71663442
It arguably did, but it was just another pretentious try at what /film/ should be. This mustn't be held as an example to be followed to make 'good' threads
>>71663483
>>71663483
>Starts off with AGI while badmouthing capeshit or GOT
Yeah that was retarded. It wasn't like people would shitpost all over the thread with capeshit and GoT anyway.
>>71661987
Every single one of these films is pleb-core. Oh please. I bet you have not seen one true patrician kino. How drole.
My dog could do a shitpost with more effort, guy above
>>71661184
/film/ already happened and it was a failure
/film/ was beautiful.
that shitposting was why I come here
>>71663442
The original film was the only /film/ posted in that thread.
>>71664149
Probably because your dog is legit retarded.
>>71660687
>I just come here to find something decent to watch
Go watch the Goon. Only /tv/ rec worth watching.
>>71661987
Seen 19 of those. Where's my medal?
>>71664224
It failed by what criteria? Most people asking for /film/ didn't even get a chance to use it.
>>71664544
Which says a lot about yourself, then
>>71664665
It was memed to dead
>>71664224
>/film/ already happened
Not really. It didn't even get an announcement, some anon just realized >>>/film/ redirected to an actual board and it was filled with shitposting before it was even open.
The problem with the split is that it effectively creates /tvg/ and /cape & shitposting/. Ignore any dipshit that thinks some heretofore unknown patrician mod is going to only allow fedora approved movie discussion.
>>71664808
No. It was memed on a bit, and then the pussies in command killed it. Quite different
/r/truefilm
nolanfans
>>71663442
>Biutiful
what an ugly and aimless piece of shit. Post true kino.
>>71664756
Says a lot about you, actually.
>>71664621
I've seen 17 and I feel like a patricianhood is non-existent, just a fading oasis. You can either be a pleb or a person who needs more thematic stimulus than most films can provide.
>>71664958
It does. But says a lot more about (you). And none of them nice
>>71660866
>Just read reviewers
Can you recommend some? Also are you talking about professional reviewers, or YT critics like RLM?
>>71665095
Not him, Armond White is actually great in a non-meme way and you can learn about some fantastic movies by reading his stuff every week.
>>71658396
I know some closed/private cinephile facebook group that has surprisingly GOOD discussion. Too bad it’s on facebook and it would be too normie for you guys.
>>71665062
Actually it says more about you, and not the ones you're thinking of.
>>71665134
I use facebook, I unfollow any actual people who come up in my feed so that they can't disrupt the flow of cancerous post-ironic memes but still, I'm on facebook.
>>71665095
Senses Of Cinema
https://mubi.com/notebook has some good articles about directors and films
Various randoms from Letterboxd
Jonathan Rosenbaum
Tag Gallagher
>>71665189
I’m at work atm, so if I could still see this thread alive after I got home I could post the name of the group here. It’s an invitation only group so I guess you could message the admins/higher ups
>>71665273
no, I'm too cool for them. Also it's 2am here and I should sleep. I won't but I'll try.
>>71665140
In truth I speak, it's about you all the unpleasant things that that says.
>>71665095
Manny Farber
Jonathan Rosenbaum
J. Hoberman
Ignatiy Vishnevetsky
Adrian Martin
Stephen Prince
Peter Brunette
Sam Rohdie
Tag Gallagher
Donald Ritchie
only the first four are reviewers, the rest are more academic/historical. if you want more reviewers, i actually think the writers from the AV Club's golden age are pretty entertaining: Scott Tobias, Nathan Rabin, Keith Phipps, Tasha Robinson, et. al. (though they kinda sucked while doing The Dissolve, but i mostly blame Pitchfork for that)
>>71662393
Citizen Kane is great
The Beatles are great
I feel like you're right for the wrong reasons
Hating on both those things is really showing that you're trying to enjoy film or music rather than just enjoying them
http://reverseshot.org/
Ray Carney, Michael Koresky, Nick Pinkerton, Adam Nayman, J. Hoberman, and Amy Taubin
>>71661987
>Citizen meme
stopped reading.
>>71658396
imdb-boards.
The sad truth, however, is that /tv/ is indeed as close as you can get to a sort of "middle ground"
(as mentioned by this anon >>71658478)
>>71666090
wow, I just noticed:
>>71666666
Satanic hexes: When?
>>71661987
>>71662100
>>71662167
>>71662176
>>71662354
>>71662393
>>71663999
>>71664621
There's a simple rule of thumb:
As long as you can't pronounce the name of the director properly, it's probably pure Cinéma
>>71666119
i hope, i hope, i hope.
>>71666687
FUCK!
you know /tv/ is fucked when the most popular threads every day are either capeshit, GOT, or waifu threads. we don't even get sticky for directors croaking but we do for that got finale!
>>71667199
If you didn't know this board is a unredeemable sewer since 2012, you missed a very shiny memo. Might as well enjoy the shittiness
>JUST
>capeshit whining
>Star Wars shit rumors
>cuckposting
>Star Wars shit whining
>Ghostbusters whining
>shitty show general
>shitty show that has a general not being made to use general
>nu-male
>capeshit company wars
>/r9k/
>screencap of RT score of blockbuster
>celeb said this on social media whining
>gender / race of cast whining
>interracial porn
>capekino
>SJW falseflagging
>waifu thread
>"Me on the left"
>/pol/
>pedo thread
>"is it kino?"
>Who will play [unrelated to film & television] in the inevitable biopic?
>eceleb trash
>[unrelated to film & television] black person doing anything
>JEWS
>walking down the street when you see these girls
>sitcom trash
>celebrity's personal lives drama
>persecution complex whining
>thinly veiled Trump shilling
>"What did [unrelated to film & television] mean by this?"
>WE WUZ
>unflattering pic of celebrity
>screencap + forced meme from shitty movie
>HOWEVER
/FILM/ NEVER
>>71667412
If I weren't in this board and got this description, I would go running to enjoy a place with all that funposting
>>71667199
You know it's more fucked because someone like you that posts a thread with AGI picture thinks he has any audacity to call anyone pleb. You lack self awareness, /tv/ has been shit for fucking aeons. Be glad the spam is only legal porn and not Cheese Pizza or gorespam
>>71667570
Why should anyone be glad with it?
>>71667506
I agree. That's why /tv/ should be left unaltered and /film/ should be created.
>>71667627
Koji? Kaji? Wat was the cheese pizza spammer nick name
Anyways
>kojirj kajiri please go
>>71664887
>nolanfans
Lol very funny. I have account with over 1000 posts on nolanfans, but I stopped visiting it after Shitterstellar. What to discuss there? Nolan is pleb-core, and they are incapable of discussing anything else.
If r/truefilm is the same tier, then I will waste my time by creating an account of reddit.
>>71667755
Try to be more of new and rabbit-like
>>71665000
How many have you seen of these though?
>>71667199
Its almost like television and film are the medium for the pleb masses and designed for the lowest common denominator and no gatekeeper to only let in "patrician approved" content.
So your options are to separate the wheat from the chaff (there is still actual discussion on /tv/) or fuck off to a moderated forum.
That being said. People really need to stop repying to obvious bait and shitposting of the ironic and regular variety.
>>71668439
>hatsukoi: jigoku-hen
>un homme qui dort
>le feu follet
I've only seen three, WHICH ONE NEXT?
>>71669129
My favorites from that pic are As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (fuck this title), Soy Cuba, and Mademoiselle.
I remember seeing a /tv/ top 500 last year and it looked so close to reddits you could barely tell the difference
>>71669661
There have been decent cinema threads on /tv/ in the past. Pic related, 2012 edition patrician core.
>>71669964
Oops, wrong one. 2013 edition.
>>71671535
>>71671614
>not a single fucking Ford.
lmao what a shit list
>>71664621
>>71665000
37
come at me bro
>>71670034
this one's shit, not patrician at all
just took famous accesible directors (not all of them are bad though)
the only ones that stand out are les vampires, spring in a small town and maybe testament of orpheus
seriously a patrician laughs at this shit
kieslowski, bresson, tarr, warhol, anger, downey sr, akerman, antonioni, KUROSAWA for god's sake, and so on, will never be patrician
>>71671685
ford? i wonder why...cuz its gey xD dere now youre all caught up in life
>>71671535
I have seen almost all of them.
>>71671792
>the best arthouse directors of all time will never be patrician! only obscure belarussian experimental cinema is acceptable!
I grew out of watching "art" films during my mid 20s.
What a bore and waste of time all of them were.
>You didn't understand them.
I understood well enough. But now I understand even better, this was not some kind of a spiritual quest and at the end the enlightenment, this was me wasting my life.
Spending hours alone in my room, watching every bullshit puked by Tarkovsky, Fellini, Bergman, Dreyer, Kobayashi and every other talentless hack's piece of shit movie, I could get my hands on.
God, I'll never take those hours back.
So now I watch Civil War and TMNT instead but I watch them with my friends and family and I'm much more happier for it.
>You've gone full pleb
Yeah, sure, meanwhile enjoy your obsession with escapism and your no life.
>>71672362
>Spending hours alone in my room, watching every bullshit puked by Tarkovsky, Fellini, Bergman, Dreyer, Kobayashi
Literally baby's first directors.
All of the middling
>>71672362
you're still a better person for having watched them though.
>>71672442
From those lists that have been post in this thread, I've seen the most.
I just threw some classic names because the others aren't even worth mentioning at all.
>>71672577
I don't like any of those directors too. Are they better than 99% of directors out there? yes.
Do they speak to me at any level? Dreyer the most, despite me being atheist
>>71658396
/r/films
>>71672362
This is something I see a lot of on the internet. I come from an intellectual family, both my parents are authors and artists for better or worse, and no one has ever talked about Fellini as some deep director, simply comfy and entertaining. The same way they rarely discuss what an abstract painting "means", its more what themes it has, what kind of feel it gives of, and whether its nice and/or interesting to look at or not.
This mentality where you lock yourself in a room for a year with a bag of the "deepest" authors according to google is so misguided and seems to be widespread among people who think intellectualism is something you train like muscles. The spiritual quest is lifelong, its not something you burst through watching a bunch of movies you hate. Youre making it much more difficult than it is.
>>71672362
you realize you can watch whatever films you want and also have time to spend with family and friends while also having a good job. I do it, and I don't understand why you think you've had some revelation about the world/people in general.
>>71672362
Seems like you were watching those films without really actually liking them. There's always "deeper" aspects to every hobby or activity in life, whether it's books, television, film, cooking, music, gaming, driving, exercising, whatever. The average person will probably only go deep on 1-2 things.
If art house film isn't for you that's perfectly fine, it was never supposed to make you some intellectual or spiritually fulfilled, it just means you fell for the faux-intellectual meme that watching arthouse or listening to classic music will leave you fulfilled.
>>71671614
Is this board safe to visit? Seems pretty patrician, but I don't want to get v&. A Google search gives a disconcerting picture of the place.
>>71672362
That's some 11/10 bait material.
>>71665386
>not mentioning based mike d´angelo
>>71673037
I mentioned a few >>71665850
>>71665386
>>71665266
D'Angelo writes well, but his reviews aren't for me and he doesn't really watch films I care about.
>>71672755
Back then, I didn't even have internet.
There was internet, I'm not that old but it wasn't so commonly used as it is now. And pne could certainly not find and watch movies through the internet yet.
I was renting videocassettes from clubs and DVD's later.
But you're right, I was merely pretending to have attended some sort of intellectuality because I've seen Goddard or Pasolini films? I was dishonest with myself and I see that clearly now, so I'm glad that phase is over with.
Well, ok, it might have been too much to claim that their movies are a piece of shit, some of them I still remember, so if they stuck to memory, there must have been something good about them. But for the most part, I have forgotten most of them.
>>71673385
>, I was merely pretending to have attended some sort of intellectuality because I've seen Goddard
if you ever paid attention in Godard film you probably did something more with your brains than you do if you watch a basic film
>>71673443
There's nothing Godard or any other of them can teach you, that living your life can't teach you better.
That's what I understood in the end.
>>71673741
you do have to actually go live your life though, sitting in one's room all day it doesn't really matter whether you spend it watching TV, playing games or whatever
>>71666185
so every director makes cinema from a certain point of view
>>71660918
It's full of pretentious SJW cocksuckers.
>>71675358
Is it?
>>71672362
>>71672577
>>71673741
>"I'm such a mature person now, you know, guys"
>What a bore and waste of time all of them were
>>"You didn't understand them". I understood well enough
>I just threw some classic names because the others aren't even worth mentioning at all
>Goddard
The fucking ever more pathetic excuses plebs use on this board. This one never was anything but a hopeless plebeian and now goes trying to talk shit.
Life is easier the simpler the mind is, so enjoy, peabrain
>>71658396
8 chan /film/ board is slow but comfy as fuck is what 4chan /film/ could have been without the memes.
>>71658396
*tip*
>>71661184
8 chan has a /film/ board it's really neat and what you want just kinda slow since not a lot of people are using it at the moment comfy 2bh.
>>71668439
I've seen all of them because this image was reposted numerous times
What else is there, uncle /tv/?
